Thread 545374558

Trainers edition

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A thread for all vehicle simulation games: racing sims, flight sims, train sims, submarine sims, tank sims, anything else sims which do not have enough traffic to sustain their own independent generals.

>Extra attention grabbing search terms for example welcome sims
/fsg/ /dcsg/ /fsxg/ /bmsg/ /shg/ /rofg/ /etsg/ /il2g/ /lfsg/ /tsg/

>OP Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/TxxE74ja (embed)

>Planefag pastebin:
https://rentry.co/simg

>Tankfag pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/EbdtnyPX (embed)

>Boat- and subfag pastebin
http://pastebin.com/JqTQWFFE (embed)

>Repository of various aviation related material:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3EQDvufMNdeTUh4SE9WV0txa0E&usp=drive_web

>Example of welcome sims
Falcon BMS, DCS World, Rise of Flight, IL-2, Combat Helo, Microsoft Flight Simulator, X-Plane, Euro truck sim, Assetto Corsa, rFactor 2, Live for Speed, SAM Simulator, Steel Beasts Pro, Steel Armor: Blaze of War, Steel Fury: Kharkov 1942, Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs Hokum, Silent Hunter, Dangerous Waters, Train Simulator, Farming Simulator 201X, OMSI 2, DiRT: Rally, Ship Simulator

>Example of non-welcome games:
Arm*, Ac* C*mbat, W*r Th*nder, W*rld of _____, The S*ms, S*m C*ty, G*at S*mulat*r

>/simg/ dies when there's a big plane crash
A cargo MD-11 crashed after takeoff in the US
>Dramatic footage circulating on social media shows one of the aircraft's engines ablaze moments before it plunged to the ground and exploded in a massive fireball, sparking urgent questions over a possible catastrophic engine failure

>>545375230
damn

>>545384223
Brutal

Sorry guys, I forgot the "1 AM in California" pity bump.

>>545388532
/simg/ dies overnight because simboomers all go to bed too early

>>545388880
I love sleeping

>>545388880
Gotta get up early to go to work to pay for sim hardware! Meanwhile all the othe generals are up until 5 AM going to cartoons of little girls together.
Honestly, /vg/ should just be nuked.

>>545389574
*gooning to cartoons

>>545375230
>>545382439

Why do those DC trimotor styles always fall apart like that?

>>545392558
Microplastic for the microplastic god!

/simg/ lost another poster.

>>545392558
*kicks it out of the plane*

>>545399893
More like /n/ lost another poster, I can't believe anyone in here is a non-larping pilot.

I thought honeycomb went bust but they appear to be back, and they're making a stick and module.

bump

KC-135s having a race

>>545389917
kind of weird that it happened twice.

>>545413721
This is exciting, we've got one at the back attempting an overtake!

>>545414825
buddy refueling practice?

>>545416537
A refuelling gangbang at 22,000ft

Our people are free. We don't need, or want you're "humanitarian aid" handouts.

>>545419728
Italy needs humanitarian aid, it's very poor

>>545414379
Half a century later the ghost of the death cruiser reminds us
>>545425189
your tax dollars hard at work

>>545426939
Burger tax dollars (plus tip), I just get to watch them

Can people argue overnight to keep the thread alive?

How about that DCS, ED, and Razbam eh? What do you lot think about them?

>>545438548
Microsoft and Microprose will save flight simulation.

>>545439392
I respectfully disagree! Oleg Maddox will be the one to save simming!

>>545445329
don't dismiss the linux revolution

Do you love France?

>>545456414
>hon hon hon

>>545452668
Windows 11 is one better than 10, Linux is obsolete and for trannies.

>>545375230
he dead

>>545464489
>flight model is fine

>>545452668
I used to game on Linux but just got sick of the performance loss so moved back to Windows. linux gaming is a lot better than it was but still not great.

>>545477050
What is this? Microsoft Train Simulator?

kill

>>545492242
BVE

>>545511185
What is the reasoning behind making the tummies blue and why is it only the Soviets that did it? I presume it's camouflage, but if it actually mattered everyone would do it.

>>545511185
not interested

>>545515032
>tfw I haven't even experienced many bugs that are worth posting
Sad

>>545516087
Interesting lawn mowing technique.

>>545518276
I love that little lad

>>545512647
Countershading to avoid visual detection, WW2 holdover that became obsolete with air superiority, radar, and stealth tech.
Burgerjets mostly don't bother with camo since air superiority is presumed and stealth coatings all come in one color.

>>545521025
Spot the SU-27

>>545515032
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGNiXGX2nLU

>>545523357
Do you fly any other plane than 346?

>>545523735
Yes
>Xplane
SF-260, SR-71, and the F-104.
>MSFS
M-346FA, F-104, P-180 or other trainers. Sometimes gliders in vr while lying down or A380 since it's the coolest airliner.
>DCS
MB-339, A-4, F-16, and the F-14 sometimes. I really want to buy either the F-1 or the F-4 but I know I'm going to lose interest soon without good campaigns.

>>545524901
I thought you'd switched to x plane for the 346

>>545525006
Yes, in Xplane12 I mostly fly that, but sometimes I want to see the wingtips pylons so I plop in MSFS for the FA variant.
In Xplane they only modeled 2 pylons for the tanks instead of the 5 actually available.

>>545521025
I was promised razzle dazzle stealth coating.

>>545525305
An impressive amount of autism

>>545530253
*yanks the rotor brake*

>>545525305
Has anyone tried a full global circumnavigation in the 346? Five fuel ready pylons is a lot for a little guy.

>>545530456
>Haha, I killed us, you fucking loser!

>>545527474
Thanks
>>545533465
>Has anyone tried a full global circumnavigation in the 346?
I wanted to do a full European tour in the 346 but I got bored once I reached EGPB in Scotland. With support for aerial refueling you could cross the Atlantic maybe. No idea if it's actually doable.
>Five fuel ready pylons
I worded it poorly, sorry. Only 3 pylons out of the 5/7 available are wet plumbed, the others can't mount fuel tanks.
In MSFS you can put stuff in all the pylons, while in Xplane only the 2 wet plumbed ones under the wings can be used (only to mount tanks).
I hope in the future they will add the centerline pylon and the 2 external ones for the smokewinders at least.

>>545530456
That is why I only fly with msfs standard issue flight buddy, no risk of any misbehaving

Halfway through my work day, can't wait to get home for some simming!

>>545537107
>flying buddy (male)
gay

Does Arma belong in this thread?

>>545542582
No, I can't remember the name of the thread it belongs in though

>>545542310
Should have Type1 and Type2 gender neutral selection of flight buddy gender insted of forcing us to fly with a guy

>>545542812
I want the blow up copilot from Airplane!

>>545542582
There used to be one called &Tactical, but it doesn't seem to be around anymore.

>>545542937
This!

>>545542964
Another victim of the gachapocolypse.
Surprised it isn't around, though. You'd think they'd be able to keep a thread alive. I thought ARMA was still pretty popular on 4chan.

>>545545109
Maybe they don't have dedicated posters who constantly bump the thread to keep it alive. I'm not sure arma is as popular as it used to be.

>>545542582
>>545542687
>>545542964
/vm/ had an /arma/ and a /tac/, but not even new updates on a slow board could keep them alive.
Reforger has pretty good helicopter physics now, the AH-6 and broomstick mods in particular are better than some sim-lite games.
The manual shifting vehicles also feel really nice, and the rally mods are decent.

>>545374558 (OP)
Hey /vg/, trainfag here.

I've been away from simming for a couple of years now. Noticed the Train sim classic cs rin ru thread is kill and all the links are dead.
and rutracker is not updated since forever

Where do you guys get your DLCs for TSC now? also secondary question: where to find the Alan Thomson made thirdparty payware stuff like pic related?
talking torrent here of course, i'd never pay dovetail a penny for the abandonware that is Railworks.

>>545566963
becoming a trainfag feels like something to look forward to in retirement

just picked up Farm Sim 18 and A-Train 3D, both for the 3DS. what am I in for

anybody got experience with FlightGear, are there mods out there to make it not look like it's from 1997?

>>545590536
Now that's fucking cool. How did you make it?

>>545557576
>Reforger has pretty good helicopter physics now
I've seen some absurd things from reforger with helis, maybe they've fixed it

>>545609718
Honestly I tried it once probably nearly 20 years ago and it looked like shit then and it still looks ancient now. You might be able to make it look a bit better, but can I ask why you would even want to play it?

>>545581037
Did they rotate at Vr rather than V2, but actually only had one engine properly working?

>>545610934
https://rebrickable.com/mocs/MOC-219195/simonelovisa01/alenia-aermacchi-m-346-master/#details

>>545610934
Do you have a 3d printer?
https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/leonardo-m-346-master-family-pack-v5

>>545635863
better physics simulation than MSFS
native Linux support

>>545640635
>taking this much copium because you don't want to use Microshart
Just dual boot mate and get msfs 2024

Reentry - A Space Flight Simulator has been released
https://store.steampowered.com/app/882140/Reentry__A_Space_Flight_Simulator/

>Boeing is officially using Microsoft Flight Simulator as a training platform
>The company announced its new Virtual Airplane Procedures Trainer (VAPT) at the European Aviation Training Summit in Cascais, Portugal, a professional-grade tool powered by Microsoft Azure and Microsoft Flight Simulator.
>The platform launches with the Boeing 737 MAX, with the 737NG, 787, and 777X listed as coming soon.

>>545641057
I'm just not gonna use proprietary software, haha...

>>545641767
What's wrong with X Plane?

>>545641968
what's right with it? sell me on it.

>>545642772
Sorry I thought you were the other Linux poster, I didn't realise there were two. It runs on Linux and isn't flightgear, that's about it.

>>545636971
Sweet
>>545637112
>Do you have a 3d printer?
Nope, but I saw those models on ebay. The way they modeled the wing root and how it interfaces to the fuselage is a bit wrong IIRC. While the FA versions have the fuselage completely wrong, on top of missing the DASS/MAW housings.

>>545635476
It's still fairly absurd, but they're moving in the right direction update to update and have fixed some of the more egregious arcadey bits.
J-hook landings and barrel rolls still happen way too often, but you can do that in MSFS, too.
HOTAS support is "functional" now if you have patience.

>>545642772
IMHO its biggest selling point is that it doesn't need to connect to the internet. If your favourite plane is already available and 100% done you could install it on an airgapped machine or a sim pit, with your preferred terrain mods like Ortho4XP etc, and you don't have to worry about one day not being able to play it anymore due to servers going offline.

>>545643391
doesn't that also apply to FlightGear (and older versions of MSFS)?

>>545643363
MSFS helis just seem to ignore what a helicopter can take so it'll only say you crashed if you fly too fast or literally crash it into the ground, I'm not sure if the more detailed addons are better at this.

>>545643569
Yes, but they're a bit old and their flight physics leave to be desired compared to what is available now.
Now that I think about it I never tried to see if MSFS2020 with predownloaded terrain would launch properly when offline.

>>545641631
Saars!

>>545644494
I’ve accidentally been disconnected from the network while trying to launch and Xbox services throws a bitch fit. If there’s a way around that I’d imagine it would be fine, I’ve had plenty of network outages where I just lose the ai ATC voices and get good old TTS.

>>545644494
I've never tried getting 20/24 to run offline, I doubt it works.

>>545643603
You can grind your gearbox into dust in Taog's Loach, it makes the chip detector very angry and the engine stop working.
Engine damage is also simulated in their Huey. Both are toggleable.

>>545656993
Just down to the addon dev then, Blackbird are working on a Huey too. I'm not sure what the failures are like in Miltech's MH-60, if there are any.

When I get out of NEETdom I'm going to buy so many planes

https://youtu.be/mD7TIMiH-es
It will be better than the AH 707 but the question is by how much

>>545658521
Good luck, bud. When I stop being a NEET I'm upgrading my HOTAS set up.

>>545661460
I looked into that and it'd probably cost me £700 for rudder pedals, new stick and throttle.

>>545661194
Anything will be better than aeroplane hell

>>545658521
2020 is the better NEET simulator

>>545661565
It'd be worth it. I wanna upgrade off my 12 year old X52 set up. The axis knobs are finally starting to jitter and the rudders kind of suck. Apparently force feedback sticks are making a comeback and I wanna get in on that.

>>545662020
Yeah but I feel if I just torrent planes I won't learn or appreciate them properly as I'll be downloading new ones like a madman
>>545662267
Rudder pedals would make such a difference for me. The new FFB sticks cost an arm and a leg so good luck.

>>545666140
Do a belly landing

This is too easy

The Balkan maps for DCS was recently announced.
>>545667204
Tomorrow, I already put my hotas away

>>545669867
I get that most of the sorties started from Aviano etc, but having Ghedi in a low quality area sucks. Plenty of Tornado bombing runs took off from there with the 6th wing.
Well, at least it's there, I will finally be able to recreate the tonkas coming back and dropping unfuzed bombs in the Garda lake prior to landing.
I bet a F-117 module will sooner or later come.

>>545670260
Don't Italians hate Venice/Venetians? You can blow it up now.

>>545662410
Madman downloading makes you a better aviator.
How can you know what you like to fly if you haven't tried flying everything?

>>545670503
I'm wet at the tought. But don't misunderstand, it's Italy, here people (or at least older generations) hate everyone who lives more than 2km away from his town. And the closer you are to the mountains the worse it gets.

>>545671186
What happens once you reach the mountains?

>>545671584
>>545670503
>Don't Italians hate Venice/Venetians?
forgot to mention, Venice/Venetian aren't per se hated, they are just rightfully seen as mini jews due to them asking absurd prices for everything. I kinda respect them tho due to their history in warfare. Especially the shit they pulled against Milan.
>What happens once you reach the mountains?
Insular as fuck, here in the mountains unless you grew up here with everyone else they will always consider you an outsider. But not in the way of "fuck off nigger" or other stuff. It's the vicious stuff where if you marry someone not from the same town or province they will ostracize you and treat your wife poorly. It's thankfully been getting better as old fucks die out.

>>545672187
Yeah I wasn't entirely sure I just thought I'd heard Italians moaning about Venice before, to be fair it's probably because it's been ruined by tourism.

>>545672187
>Especially the shit they pulled against Milan.
qrd?

>>545673103
Not sure about those trees but the mountains look alright

>>545658521
But then you won't have any time to fly them.

>>545672624
Yeah, it's been transformed into a themepark basically, the actual residents who live there are tired and want to introduce a medieval like token of access of 10€+ per person, businesses obviously oppose it because they want to make as much money as they can, charging 8€ for a glass of water.
>>545672759
"Galeas per montes"
During the Lombardy Wars the city of Brescia (ally of the Republic of Venice after they gained it from Milan in 1428) was put under siege by the Duchy of Milan.
To contrast this, Venice decided to move an entire fleet of galleys and frigates, by river, and mountains, to the Garda Lake.
They succeded and were able to resupply Brescia and win a naval battle in the lake against the Duchy of Milan. IIRC the opening scenes of Vinland Saga are based on this military feat.

>>545674478
I didn't think about that

>>545674907
How on earth did they move ships across land in the 15th century? That's a hell of a feat. Surely they must have dismantled them rather than do it whole.

so where is the airport?

>>545675724
DON'T DO IT, THINK OF THE CHILDREN

>>545675086
Ha, gottem!

wtf is this?

>>545644494
from what I've read, FG still has the best actual atmosphere/flight simulation in the business.

>>545675819
No, whole, they went by river till Rovereto then they leveled natural obstacles, trees, invented new machines for the job, built bridges and new roads. From their writing the easy part was going up the mountains. Going down was the hardest part, to do that they used ropes tied to trees and even took advantage of the Garda's Aura which is a strong wind typical of the lake, so they lowered their sails to further brake their descent

luv me hot rod

>>545678259
Floatcopter.

Sand dunes.

>>545674478
The worst part of this hobby is having your ability to maintain concurrent airframe proficiency kneecapped by the hard limits of human memory.

simulated bump

Spicy bump.

bumulated simp

bump

what are the essencia mods for ATS?

>>545736036
Depends on what you want, Coast to Coast is popular

>>545752507
How's development going for Sea Power?

If anyone is in the 2024 SU4 beta and your flights aren't loading, delete your cache and try again.

>>545752710
seems to be going well, they're still churning out regular updates and it looks like a mostly complete game. it's a pretty small team, too.
the studio co-founder did an interview about it last week:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Kj4HCg6l3I

I never remember to tap the brakes after takeoff.

I'm not really a fan of garminslop normally but these ones are alright

>the game froze
Haven't had that for a while, rip

>>545758917
Use an addon that adds the sound of the wheels spinning. In xplane there's XPRealistic.

>>545771987
Can you actually hear the sound of the wheels spinning over the engine in a plane?

>>545780417
nice slats

i did it

>>545781349
Now go under the lower bit

>>545742276
I'm chiefly concerned with a good career mode, vintage rigs, and weather/seasons. I'm open to whatever map mods that come highly recommended but I'm fine with the vanilla SCS stuff.
a multiplayer mode where I can play as a Highway Patrolman chasing other players would be cool

>>545790175
>good career mode
What do you mean? It becomes pointless once you've earnt enough anyway.
>multiplayer mode
Already in ish, it's called convoys and they're adding a car DLC 'soon'

>>545790432
that's the thing, I don't know precisely what I mean. it's one of those things you feel rather than can define. I can think of a thousand different things I would find fun, but there are other ideas I never thought of but some modder might have, and I'm curious as to what they might be
>make money too quick
You can sidestep that by not taking loans.

I've seen the car DLC they're planning, I'm not too interested in being able to just drive around in a road car with no purpose. There are better games for that

>>545790871
It's not about taking loans, it's just after a while you just have tonnes of money, I haven't hired a single driver yet have millions and I'm level 50 or so

>>545792952
well, there's a mod idea if you know of one. rebalance economy.

>>545793309
There is nothing to balance because you don't really need money in that game. You just drive your own truck, and all money can get is slightly better truck that doesnt improve the gameplay in any meaningful way.

welcome to the land downunder

>>545794338
what a very 'video game' way of looking at it. Maybe I personally desire a Mack, even if it's not an objective upgrade over my current Kenworth? That desire, and the pursuit of it is what defines the gameplay of those sorts of games.

>>545793309
I don't care about the career mode I just want to drive

>>545796608
okay. I do, which is why I asked for mods related to it.

>>545772772
In smaller planes yes, jets and airliner usually have automatic breaking when the gear retracts.

>>545799123
I've flown a Cessna and didn't hear the wheels spinning. I don't think the instructor even told me to brake them. granted, it was like 11 years ago so my memory is hazy on the specifics.

>>545799525
I don't know, I've never flown before. I asked ChatGPT

>>545799525
I've flown a Cessna and I could hear the wheels spinning.

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