Thread 545626432

Hammer of the Emperor Edition

>PTS 11.0 patch notes:
https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/287-pts-patch-notes-11-0?

>Update 10.2 patch notes:
https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/272-hotfix-10-2-patch-notes

>September Community update
https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/278-september-community-update

>Year 2 Roadmap:
https://i.imgur.com/61HZRF3.jpeg

>Where to get the game:
https://www.focus-entmt.com/en/games/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2

>Lore Stuff:
https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page

>For jolly cooperation with your battle brothers (Can also post codes for jolly coop/PvP. Edit Squad -> Invite Menu):
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/sm2general

>Workaround with matchmaking (not finding players, only 2/3):
Back out to the main menu and re-enter battle barge.

>Datasheet showing hidden difficulty modifiers for each difficulty (for easier damage reference):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1kVvYgDBoAan98W3IjAM6ERdq-QfkCsaVvXKF5g_Q9sU/htmlview

>Spreadsheet useful for damage calculation:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HzX5LzOD8NZyOTV-BUyL8kWoLEpt-skM/

>Recommended prestige perks (WIP):
https://i.imgur.com/oy6eQdx.jpeg

>/sm2g/ Dude Wall - Compilation of Dudes:
https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/

>/sm2g/ Phantom Links Chapter Lore:
https://rentry.org/ChroniclesofPhantomLinks

>Other useful links:
https://pastebin.com/VZ0ryCNB

Previously on the Battle-barge: >>545082287

Reminder that the Minotaurs got fucking bodied 3:1 by the Lamenters to the point of a forced retreat and yet people hype these Greek queers up like they're unstoppable lmao.

Based

>>545626614
Pay your fucking taxes Huron

>load in on the battle barge
>host immediately leaves
gj bro

Post your favorite Chapter and what you think their theme song would be.

>>545633391
Would be? If your favorite chapter doesn't have its own theme song already, it's literal trash.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx61xeDV_60

Haven't played since late september, any leaks from the PTS?

>>545634646
more diversity coming
here's your space viking bro

>>545634646
Raven Guard champion skin.

>>545634646
RG Champion gets a silenced (yeah I know) bolter as well.

>>545633391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoKluzn07eQ
guess the chapter

>>545634105
>sung by a mixed choir
anon...

>>545634646
Update 12 mission.

>>545633391
>This is my curse (the longing)
>This is my curse (time)
>This is my curse (the yearning)
>This is my curse
>There is love
>Burning to find you
>Will you wait for me?
https://youtu.be/pfCI8NMq5xE?si=OqovRq9LIDt5pC8i

>>545634760
Wouldn't be so annoying if he at least sounded like a space wolf, like how decimus doesn't sound like an ultramarine.

>>545635052
Thanks for keeping us posted anon. That looks like a fat muzzle break rather than a suppressor though.

>>545633391
https://youtu.be/A67OhOUoUsc?si=bgreDECVn-j9n2Vk

And They Shall Not Know Fear was what got me into this franchise. Is it liked amongst the fandom?

>>545637525
Yeah

>>545637525
its good animation
most people here are DoWfags tho

>>545636529
the matrix was such a good movie. shame they never made a sequel.

>>545637525
Too tacticool and serious. Not enough yelling and over the top rage.

>>545637525
Its the best piece of 40k media Games Workshop has ever commissioned. Thats not a high bar to clear but its still entertaining.

>>545635998
>That looks like a fat muzzle break rather than a suppressor though.
Yeah, as silly it looks this is supposed to be a suppressor attachment. Here's how it sounds btw (also, don't mind the 3-round burst mode, that's just because the champion skin was imposed onto heroic bolter):
https://streamable.com/j9p24l

>>545637525
It was pretty bad trying to be 2deep4u

>>545637525
Yes
Watch the Astartes animation as well if you haven't, it was done by the same guy and was what got him hired

>>545637525
The animation is good but otherwise I prefer my space marines to be overzealous pretentious retards like in Dawn of War. Not machine-like tacticool operators who don't communicate like in Astartes. That's cringe as fuck.

Also had some weird stuff like the bladeguards leave their shield behind for no reason. That's just a blatant tactical error and the plot armor kick in as they find a space marine-sized debris with a handle that they can use as a shield.
And of course it makes sense for the climax and the suspense but in terms of the character's portrayal it's weird how Titus was shown to be such a slowpoke. If he hadn't been so slow to act, the 2 bladeguard vets would be alive and the nignog would be uninjured.

>>545638990
>it was done by the same guy and was what got him hired
Syama was a layout artist for And They Shall Know no Fear, he had very little to do with it.

Oh, and the OC character designs were fucking top tier. Saber needs someone with a sense of aesthetics. I think only the BT champion has the same energy.

>>545637525
I like the dawn of war intro cinematics more.

>>545640363
You may be shocked to find out both were done by the same people.

>>545640829
the last game in the dawn of war series was soulstorm.

so what is your Thunder Hammer Assault build?

>>545642639
Full pommel strike meme
If I'm going to go thunder hammer I'm going to go ham for the fun of it

>>545642639
I don't play Assault because I like actually being useful to my team

>>545640829
The direction was completely different. The marines in the dawn of war 2 intro still act like the marines in the first game's intro.

>>545642639
You go bulwark instead

>>545639748
>titus looks normal
>the other three are pimped the fuck out (and now must have their shit recovered)
why

>>545644608
but what about your shield????

heavy bolter is just not good....

>>545642639
I had the double slam perk as well as the double charge attack perk.
I erred on the side of survivability though before I started min-maxing with the power fist. I haven't really went back to the hammer. Maybe the new heroic one will be fun to mess with.

>>545644997
decorated veterans vs potential heretic

>>545645743
Plasma > Heavy > Melta > Pyre

>>545644997
>laurels on head, custom imperialis, custom neck ornament, custom backpack, deathwatch chain on arm, 2 custom shoulders, custom belt buckle, gold trimmed hip guards, laurels on legs
>looks normal :^)
?
for a newly inaugurated marine who only returned to service like a fucking week ago he's quite pimped out

why is Loken so popular?

>>545644997
He went to serve on that mission with first company iirc.

>>545646240
Very good introduction for the first three books. He's basically most people's anchor to the HH books where the Luna Wolves/Sons of Horus are concerned.

>>545642639
Wait until the next patch when the both fix overcharge not working and also make it so double slam perks for the heavy and aftershock on thunder hammer finally work with perks.

>>545647176
Remind me again if the patch never worked to begin with or patch 10 was what broke them.

>>545633391
https://youtu.be/-9dsrmGG4_o?si=wbsgi-oaSnuTc8rv

>>545647471
I think it was broken when strats got introduced but it's hard to remember. Since they also buffed block fist to go way over the breakpoint with overcharge.

>>545638875
Lol. I've never heard of silenced bolters, unless this is some primaris nu-stuff that they've introduced and the news haven't reached me yet.
>>545634883
The Champion skin looks nice tho.

How do we make light attacks worth a shit?

>>545655562
>make them faster
>give melee weapons more pause combos and finishers
>buff momentum gain and upgrade it from a perk to a permanent passive

Do I run Chainsword or knife on tactical?

>>545647176
they should release more frequent hotfix. bugs like this are unacceptable to be left for months

>>545658576
They can't even fix their UI typos on regular basis, much less bugs in their code. And considering most devs probably went on to work on SM3 (and a truckload of other SI games) we're dealing with a skeleton crew trying to sustain reasonable interest in SM2 long enough until they are ready to announce premiere of the next one.

>>545657876
chainsword. they added the knife for lore reasons only. you're also not supposed to use heavy bolt rifle with the heavy class, same story.

>>545633391
Executioners
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bh63oQKdus

>>545633391
https://youtu.be/9TMhSCkRt-k

If you run full White Scars cosmetics your marine should get a stealth buff to movement speed

>>545665160
implying modern devs are capable of putting easter eggs like this without contractual obligation

dark angels gigantic swan wing helmet is mega cringed. it's fucking longer than their torso on the tabletop

>no Steel Confessors
>no Knights Byzantium
Saber again picking the most boring successors.

Is helmet eye color chapter specific too or is it just whatever you think looks cool? Im trying to stay Codex compliant.

>>545667351
It is typically chapter specific but does not hold any meaning.

>>545667292
They're adding more successors? There a list I can look at?

>>545667667
Datamines for the Iron Hands pack coming in patch 12.

>>545655276
Originally, silent bolters were achieved through radically redesigned specialist bolts that themselves are silent, not actually silencing the bolter itself. Mainly for use with modified stalkers.

>>545665160
>Blood Angels
melee damage increases the longer you stay in combat
>Imperial Fists
damage increase for bolter weapon
>Raven Guards
kneeling will turn you invisible for a few seconds
>Black Templars
negating one instance of lethal damage per 120s
>Dark Angels
damage increase for plasma weaponry
>Iron Hand
armour recovery per 60 seconds, stack with bulwark
>Salamander
damage increase for pyre and meltas
>Ultramarines
extra ammos
>Space Wolves
damage increase for melee charge attack

>>545667820
so the teaser image wasn't showing just a sample of successor chapters, they really want to release a dlc with 4 (FOUR) (IV) additional colorschemes. what the fuck. I don't even feel like making fun of iron hand anons, it's fucking grim.

>>545668183
And all 4 of them use colors we already have. We could have had a really nice burgundy color with Knights Byzantium but saber is gay.

>>545633263
sorry I had it on lethal by accident when I wanted absolute hehe

>>545656827
And also throw in a mechanic that adds damage to your next heavy attack after swinging a bit

>>545667292
They only add Chapters with clear cut iconography in the Codexes, and the Steel Confessors don't actually have any.

Death Guardfags, what's your choice of green for the armor trim?
I take it you guys use Wraithbone for the primary color?

>>545674552
>green for the armor trim
the armor trim is bronze, do you mean the pauldrons? i use caliban green because dg green seems too bright for me and i don't have any dlc shades.
>wraithbone
yeah.

>>545675335
>pauldrons
Yeah, my mistake.
I've seen variations where it's green pauldron and bronze trim, white pauldron and green trim, and green pauldron AND green trim.

>>545675634
>variations
yeah, sorry i thought green/bronze/bone was the official colorscheme, but apparently there's several.

>>545633391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blCBoXKCGl0
Kinda cheating but w/e

>>545633391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY8axDTWYh4

Similar to >>545681489. You can't go wrong with Doyle Donehoo.

Assault is so useless holy fuck.

Fight bullshit with bullshit.

>>545684807
I actually forgot that the target lock on shit exists in this game. I have never once used it and I think I unbound the key.

>>545684318
skill issue

get good scrub

>>545676596
Every expeditionary fleet and even most chapters had unique heraldry, markings, and colorings. The legions were massive and minimally standardized.

Since some 40k game soundtracks popped up, I just wanna add how run-off-the-mill SM2's soundtrack sounds. It's one of the biggest culprits in the game for me. Especially during the campaign at no point do you feel that grim warhammer darkness that's staple of 40k. And when you switch to PvE you're better off muting the OST and putting on something more thematic in the background anyway. I've been playing some Darktide lately because my friend got it and that game's soundtrack is miles ahead of SM2. Especially if we consider the world building aspect of music and selling the setting's atmosphere . Stuff like these are good examples of what I mean:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTLtdBxF1Tc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5ozcKqF4E8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX2fGLCd5vY

It IS Jesper Kyd though, so I shouldn't be surprised by high quality of the finished product. The dude knows his craft. I wonder if he'd be up for making music for some Space Marine 3... But really the music should get people pumped for the setting/fighting. Give me choir for the main theme, something high octane to get the blood pumping. Sometimes I feel many devs/companies don't care enough or at all about making fitting music for their games.

>>545634760
why does the chapter known for being white redheads get a nigger head

>>545685117
>and I think I unbound the key.
Me too. The default button mapping for PC was total ass so I moved a bunch around and I some useless things like target lock got removed to free up keys

>>545686991
It's a pure consoleplebs function, so that's not unusual. I never used it either and I don't even know which button it was.yrg2d

>>545626614
the redditniggers with their fanfiction battle cry were almost completely annihilated during the badab war
the only reason they didn't is because they flat out surrendered to the minotaurs
imagine being a fucking space marine chapter with that absolute stain of dishonor on your faggy colors

>>545685117
That's the Vanguard's hook target. Lock on can be useful to see how close a majoris is to dying or to make sure your fully charged power fist heavy actually hits the wave of majoris in front of you and not one of the Hormagaunts biting at your ankles.

>>545688142
>rages because his chapter didn't win as hard as he wanted them to purely due to their own stupid decisions
I bet you are a Fire Hawks main.

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>>545688142
The Minotaurs won the battle, but it really was an embarrassment for them. They ambushed a single ship with their entire chapter and both sides walked away with 50% casualty rates when the battle was 1200 to 400.

>>545690905
tell me about the phantom links /sm2g/ how did they come to be?

>>545696714
Anons in the thread kept saying that we should make our own homebrew chapter then we voted n shit to come up with details

>>545685737
I genuinely forgot SM2 even had a soundtrack to be honest.
It would have to be spectacular because you're also going up against stuff like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFC7y6Ao3Ug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBEUwkvNbks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMQfkyBKD6g

In addition to those tracks from Darktide you've already posted

They gave Gadriel a mini and made him extra chinky

Emperor bless Jeremy Soule
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG42F-5AVOE
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA0jY2b_QpI
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhqWHIq-aZw
And Doyle Donehoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blCBoXKCGl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bO1tGtZ_FE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJhtIv_Yd5w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC7djryLAow

>>545699016
Valius is way more chinky but has a great voice.

Titus's plot is being continued in the table-top in a new 500 worlds storyline where he as the new 2nd Captain of the Ultramarines has become the Warden of Ultramar, tasked with retaking the 500 worlds of Ultramar where he, the newly minted ancient Gadriel and Metarus go fight some Necrons.

There's gonna be a warhammer community page up at some point

>>545699765
Is that Gadriel and Chairon of is Metaurus back in action from the amazon show?
So did Acheran just bite the dust?

>>545699765
Blog page is up

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/fm2tm39s/world-championships-preview-captain-titus-battles-nekrosor-ammentar-for-the-five-hundred-worlds-of-ultramar
https://youtu.be/-hrulR3PhGY?si=Xggc9o3EljtgUP_v

>>545700038
Gadriel and Metaurus from the Amazon show. Chairon's getting no model

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiKiUb5sMK8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSFR4D0mVVo
Brass should be a staple of an SM focused soundtrack. Mechanicus tomb divers get their slow dungeon synths/ambience, grimy criminals in a hive get their gothic industrial/electronic, marines should get big ol military pride stuff, almost renaissance in nature.

Titus got a promotion and a mission from big G himself. This has pretty massive implications for Space Marine 3.

>>545700183
>As for Captain Acheran, the former leader of the Second Company… well, there’s usually only one way Space Marine jobs open up, and we’ll be taking a closer look at that next week.
Rip bozo

>>545700183
>Chairon possibly dead
>Acheran possibly dead
>Titus is going to deal with Necrons on the tabletop
Would be nice if Talasa and Veridian were promoted too.

>>545700389
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hrulR3PhGY
forgot video link

I wonder what Leandros thinks of this.

>>545700703
Wow, they made him look hella gay.

>>545701026
>Two models in 2 years? The Codex Astartes does not support this action Titus

>>545700397
>hey leandros and acheran, get in the thunderhawk, girlyman wants to see you for a special, off-the-books mission with titus
>okay ummm so something happened to leandros and acheran, and now titus is running the second company okay bye
calgar's helicopter tours

>>545700183
Titus looks baller as fuck. I'm so mad that there are no cloaks in sm2 except for sniper.

>>545701817
kek

>>545700389
So Chairon is a Bulwark now and Gadriel became a white man instead of Asian?

>>545699765
Watch, they're putting the Necron story in the ttg instead of SM3 and we'll be fighting nids again

kek this Scottish fucker got demoted lmao

Where's Leandros? He should be the 2nd company's Reclusiarch

>>545700389
>Titus has 2 new gfs
He can't be stopped
>>545702645
That isn't Chairon. He doesn't have a model and there's no mention of him so I assume he died with Acheron

>>545702789
Leandros, Chairon and the Operation characters aren't mentioned at all in the blog.
Captain Acheran is mentioned and will be getting his own blog post next week to explain why Titus has his role now.

>>545702789
For all we know Leandros either got promoted or died.
Would be neat if Vespasius got to be the new chaplain for 2nd Company

>>545699765
That's actually really cool. Maybe it's a bit gay but it feels nice to follow his story along in SM2 and now seeing him in real time get back his previous position and status.
Also for all the bad choices it does prove SM2 was very successful and Saber did a good enough job that GW is canonizing their stuff into the plastic which for GW is the highest recognition they tend to give.

>>545703395
>YOU MAY HAVE SAVED THE 500 WORLDS OF ULTRAMAR FROM THE NECRON THREATS TITUS
>BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT WORLD IS THE ONE INSIDE YOU, AND IT HAS YET TO BE SAVED, ACCORDING TO ME

this game is siiiiiiicckk

>>545702789
like literally every other encounter has with someone being suspicious of Titus, he fell to the influence of chaos

>>545703030
You don't get promoted from chaplain unless the Master of Sanctity dies, and Cassius is still going strong.
Leandros only has two paths out of his current position: Deathwatch, or death.

So the Space Marine plot timeline now goes.
>Secret Level flashback
>Space Marine 1
>Boltgun
>Warhammer community blogs
>Space Marine 2
>Secret Level main plot
>500 worlds tabletop campaign
>Space Marine 3.

>>545702654
Given modern video game limitations, they can only improve the graphics so much. I wouldn't be surprised or all that disappointed if SM3 feels like a polished SM2 with hopefully more mechanics and more enemies.

>>545702764
Demoted to a coffin
You either go up or go out in the military and there is no leaving service as an SM

>>545699765
Leandros is malding

Metaurus used to be first company right? Bladeguards just get moved around to protect personnel like that?

>>545699765
>most based Ultramarine of all time gets his title back
>and a new model plus book series
>and his domesticated asian boytoy now bears his banner
Fuck I don't wanna buy Ultramarines but

>Titus reclaims the captaincy of the 2nd company
Cato bros will he ever get any promotion besides Rowboat's personal bitchboy?

Why does Titus get promoted? I'm the one doing all the actual tough jobs in operations. Where's my promotion?

>>545699765
are those ultramine guardsmen?

>>545704237
kayvaan shrike of the raven guard stepped down as the chapter master so aethon shaan can become one

>>545704463
>domesticated asian boytoy
hes fingolian

>>545704450
Yeah.

>>545704479
Yeah, they're apart of his command structure for the whole reclamation of 500 worlds thing.

>Newly promoted at Titus’ express recommendation, despite his relative youth among veterans, Ancient Gadriel hefts the massive banner of the Second Company and can always be found in the thickest fighting alongside the Captain’s mentor, Veteran Sergeant Metaurus. Both have ample experience fighting alongside Titus, and he values their advice above all others.

>On the shorter side, Gaius Silva commands a vast fleet of Ultramarian defence ships and is an expert at handling the tensions between an overworked mortal crew and their often-pitiless masters, making him an essential part of Titus’ muster.
>Amelia Minervas is a highly respected Legatus in the Ultramar Defence Auxilia and serves as the command team’s liaison to its legions of human soldiery. Lucia Vestha joins Titus’ war councils as a valued plenipotentiary and diplomat whose keen negotiating skills have saved the Second Company from needless battle on countless occasions, while the sharp-tongued and forthright Dainal Kornelius is a veteran Astropath who has served survived for over 100 years in the Ultramarines’ employ.

>>545703395
Can't Titus send him to the Deathwatch or something?
Also gay as fuck he left his boy Chairon behind.

>>545704470
I would be surprised if Veridian and Talasa get promoted to 1st Company.

>>545704470
remember the tomb section where the servo skull was looking for reinternment candidate, and one dude was rejected because "ignobility too high"?
that's your promotion

>>545704843
Chairon could have possibly died.
At the very least, Gadriel was the squad sergeant.

>>545704843
chairon could be dead or prefer to fight chaos for all we know

Can't believe Gadriel's a nepobaby

>>545704848
you mean you wouldn't? those squads have massive accomplishment

>>545704848
>The Kill List as meticulously managed by Decimus shows a Hive Tyrant, a daemonhost, a Trygon Prime, a heldrake, a Mutalith Vortex Beast, Tyranid Primes, and a Hierophant.
Pretty impressive feat when all were accomplished on foot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hrulR3PhGY
Damn Titus got some choice words for Guilliman

2nd Company was at like 1/3rd strength in terms of manpower by the end of Demerium and they lost 3 more squads in the upcoming operation mission to boot.
They HAVE to keep Veridian and Talasa in 2nd Company for numbers at this point.

>>545702764
>final operation update for SM2
>Acheran's last stand
>we fight side by side until the swarm devours us
>just like the first story mission but without the plot armor
Kino

>>545705119
Do we know which teams canonically killed each enemies?
I know for Decapitation/Vox Liberaties we had the two specific teams assigned during the game
Then again i forget which marine belongs to which team.

>>545705450
They can stay in the 2nd Company but give them all a promotion to veteran status or some sort of special duty honors

>>545703932
It goes
>SM1
>SM2
Fuck any of that other gay shit.

>>545705795
Talasa handled
>Inferno
>Decapitation
>Ballistic Engine
>Fall of Atreus
>Reclamation (new)
Veridian's side was
>Vox Liberatis
>Reliquary
>Exfiltration

Obelisk was technically performed by both sides.
There's no mission control dialogue in Vortex and I don't think there was any specific dialogue for Termination denoting who.
In Reclamation we lose squads Phaedrus, Heraton, and Octavio.

>>545703932
Space Marine 3 is still unknown it could be anywhere past 2 including during the Secret Level plot or the 500 worlds campaign

>>545705921
Or just don't fucking mention them again. They're space marines doing their jobs like everyone else and they're either dead or will most likely die soon face down in a ditch somewhere. It's not the fucking MCU.

>>545706280
You cannot blame me for getting slightly attached to these bozos who I've spent literal hundreds of more hours playing as than with Titus' 10 hour campaign.

>>545706280
That's kind of true but then again we're playing Titus who is now replacing Acheran as their captain so it would make perfect sense for them to still appear in his story provided that they are still alive
Space marine companies are only 100 marines plus support units so the potential roster isn't so massive that they would suddenly disappear from everyone's notice

>>545705365
>the guy in charge is asking too much, this situation is fucked
>he's a relic of a bygone era
you'll never guess what guilliman said about the emperor

>>545705039
Yeah, I’m just sleepy

>>545705795
Decapitation is Talasa (Vespasius, Valius, and Scipius)
Vox is Veridian (Decimus, Quartus, and Straban)

>>545699765
>Titus is captain of the 2nd company again
What happened to Acheran? Did he get demoted for sending three marine squads out on missions all the fucking time?

>>545706861
Squad composition seems pretty flexible because Inferno was Talasa but it was done by Valius, Decimus, and Straban.
Decimus is mostly Veridian and they change up squads again in the final campaign mission where it goes all-ranged Talasa (Valius, Scipius, Straban) and all-melee Veridian (Vespasius, Decimus, Quartus)

>>545707075
Find out next week. They'll have a warhammer blog about it.

>>545704848
I meant wouldn’t. Those guys have insane accomplishments.

>>545707075
We'll find out in a later WH blog update.

>>545699765
>>545704734
>On the shorter side, Gaius Silva commands a vast fleet of Ultramarian defence ships
Gaius is the dapper looking dude with the laurels? I like his style

>>545703030
>Leandros dies off screen, the conflict between him and Titus goes unresolved
That'd be so fucking lame.

>>545707294
Or he could still be around and simply just not get the privilege of a model.

>>545707075
>space book says minimum squad is 5 marines
>I can spare three men
>no acheran MINIMUM of 5
>three men!
and then he was demoted to servitor duty

>>545707115
Yeah. I was just say that’s what the canon team composition was for those missions, since I remember there being unique interactions for those characters in those levels, just like Inferno’s elevator ride. I just can’t get them to trigger anymore. They should be up on YouTube somewhere.

>>545704734
Is ancient just a rank like corporal? Don't you need to be actually, you know, ancient?

>>545707467
Inferno's elevator conversation only occurs if there's at least two canonical squadmembers (Tact, Vanguard, Heavy).
I don't think there's another instance of that in Operations afaik. You also get to see whose departing for their respective missions during the campaign mode too.

>>545707294
There is no conflict to resolve
Titus has done everything you could ask of a marine and stayed pure in the eyes of all his men. Leandros is fucking delusional because he got told off on Graia in Space Marine 1
From Leandros perspective there is no possible proof of purity left and Titus is already committed to serving until death
From Titus perspective he has simply accepted that Leandros does his hall monitor duty as their chaplain
Now they either work together or they don't

The reason Leondros isn't mentioned is because the tabletop already has a new Chaplan model GW sells and the blog post is about selling the new models.
Chairon doesn't have an excuse yet.

>>545706196
If that's the case, according to Skyfire, Talasa is
>Decimus, Valius, Straban
So Veridian is
>Quartus, Vespasius, Scipius
So Decimus has gone up against a hive tyrant and two primes
But the heldrake, daemonhost, trygon and the vortex beast weren't his kills.

>>545707841
the quota for "bruthas from anutha primarch" was filled by the secret level one

>>545707548
>Is ancient just a rank like corporal?
Sort of yes but it's also a position of honor rather than just a rank of authority
>Don't you need to be actually, you know, ancient?
No this is an archaic use of the term ancient which used to refer to standard bearers in ye olden days

>>545707869
Nah right before Voidsong, you canonically hear Talasa being led by Vespasius with comments later down the line with Valius present while Decimus is leading Veridian in Vox Liberatis.
Decimus' little chat window actually confirms him being Veridian most of the time so gets to have the Daemonhost, Heldrake, and Trygon on his kill-list.

guess the chink won't be playable in SM3 since he's too busy stroking flagpoles lmao

I hope we get some new characters who are cool like my boy Sidonus was

>>545707609
Found it. There were multiple conversations that seemed to be tied to the story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sIa1XDOFnw

>>545708448
I just hope they don't force the niggermarine into every new mission

>>545708474
>Found it. There were multiple conversations that seemed to be tied to the story.
Yeah the elevator talk can still get to be played but those mission specific dialogue don't pop up anymore. I asked around but got no feedback on it. I guess it must be tied to the campaign progress.
But I've heard weird tales of people losing their operations progress if they hit new game so I haven't done it myself. An anon thankfully posted those unique campaign progress lines for us.

>>545708536
they 100% will
I wouldn't even be surprised if Titus wasn't playable and you'd only play as a new black or chinese sergeant or lieutenant instead

>>545708362
He either gets daemonhost or hive tyrant though since those are mutually exclusive.
Heldrake and reviving the Atreus are also mutually exclusive.

>>545707431
>BOOK SAY
I thought the whole point of Space Marine games and even Ultamarines arc in general is that what book says is at best advice.

>>545709045
Like I said, Decimus was part of Talasa for Inferno only. He'd go on to lead Veridian in Vox Lib and Reliquary because the campaign hangar shows him separate from the other confirmed members of Talasa because they chime in during Titus' missions.

>>545703395
>heard the voice of the Emperor himself
I really hope they put this meme to rest.

>>545709305
Makes sense.
So does Talasa also do Exfiltration, Termination, Vortex and now Reclamation?

>>545699765
>Leandros watching Titus be promoted

>even Titus is giving girlyman sass
We need Dorn to return more than ever.

>>545710341
I would probably buy minis again if they bring Dorn back.

>>545709891
I really don't think Saber put any thought into the side characters. Since you can pick any of them anyway.
However, in the ending cutscene of the game when Titus gets his helmet laurels, only Vespasius and Valius have excessive bling that they didn't have during the campaign so they were probably meant to be the two leaders at least.

What icon do Eliminators use? Battleline? Fire support?

>>545711298
this one

>Black guy dies first
KWAB

>>545708606
Thank you.

>>545711298
Fire Support.

>>545711970
>>545712535
Thanks. My dumbass couldn't for the life of me find a model with a clear view of the right pauldron; most are covered up by the cloak.

post yfw Acheran is gonna be a dreadnought next week

>>545712995
>they put him into an old boxnought suit as a joke

>>545711970
>company 15

>>545709891
Veridian is Exfiltration, like 20 minutes before or after Talasa is sent to do Ballistic Engine.
Termination is one squad on Kadaku during Titus' blackout.
Vortex is unknown, Reclamation is Talasa.

>kills off Acheran
>kills of Chairon
>no mention of Leandros
Missed opportunity, Saber didn't bow down to Leandros haters.

Leandros should have been promoted to 2nd company Chaplain along with Captain Titus.

>>545713368
thats squad, company is determined by color trim

Ultramarine Captain job requirements include but are not limited to:
>Be a Veteran
>Previous Captain experience preferred
>Prevent a planetary chaos invasion
>Stop a WAAAGH
>Spend 100 years in the deathwatch
>Stop a tyranid swarm
>Prevent a second planetary invasion
>Go on a suicide mission and live
>1v1 greater demons/sorcerers
>Have God talk to you personally

Blue is just better

>>545714997
I think everyone can agree that Titus is qualified for the job
Hell after he's done reuniting the 500 worlds he's earned himself a successor chapter

>>545714997
Still tainted by Chaos

>>545714997
I believe he also killed two juiced up choas marines one was minuets away from being a demon prince

Leandros and Titus should unironically make up, with Leandros recognizing Titus for a pure soul that he is.
Leandros dying would feel lame and would rob the conflict from having a proper resolution.

I also believe that despite Leandros being an asshole, as a chaplain he still tries to help Tight Ass
>oversaw his primaris surgery and waited for him to wake up
>gave him a drippy set of armor
>protected his service records from prying eyes
>basically supported his idea for his astropath plan
>closed his eyes on his connection with the warpshard relic
>shat on Gadriel for almost killing Tight Ass
>sent him on a mission only he could accomplish
>that same mission earned Tight Ass a promotion to captain

>>545719296
Gays Workslop swung and missed

Should have included a Leandros Master of Sanctity for maximum lulz

>Durr durr Titus is being a bit grumpy toward Guilliman!
Isn't that what Guilliman wants? For his sons to actively question his decisions when needed?

>>545713785
Shut up, Leandros.

>>545688142
>Board a ship with 1400 of the supposed greatest most bestest anti-Astartes space marines in the universe at play against 400 supposed joke marines
>Walk away with 600 dead and only kill 200 sad boys
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>545720610
He's not even grumpy about, it's literally just
>"my mission is impossible but fuck it we ball, not like a space marine was ever going to die of old age anyway."

The sm1 trilogy original plan with Titus going renegade was a lot more kino.

Titus doesn't seem too thrilled about Guilliman

>>545723334
and prove the most hated character right? GW aint dumb

Blood Angels bros it's supposed to be our time....why is it Ultramarines, Ultramarines again?

>no Chapter Master Gabriel Angelos
>no Chief Librarian Jonah Orion
>no Master of Sanctity Apollo Diomedes
>no Captain Cyrus
>no Captain Aramus
>no Venerable Dreadnought Davian Thule
>no Techmarine Martellus
>no Veteran Ancient Tarkus
>no Veteran Sergeant Thaddeus

>>545724402
Hey buddy, I think you've got the wrong door, the dow4 club's two blocks down.

>>545713223
>they put him into a dreadnought that won't literally melt his body into soup
What a terrible punishment.

>>545727167
He wanted it though, a box has only six sides which is 3 twice, a nice, safe number

>>545702645
That's Sgt. Metaurus from the Amazon short.

>>545700389
Considering this development, are we even going to play as Titus in Space Marine 3?

Like I know he was Captain in SM1, but consider the fact he was put on the front line so the devs could actually write him out of being Captain. Titus was like half-canon because he conflicted with the established lore of the time. Now that he's Captain again due to his popularity and GW themselves doing it, I don't see him getting the boot again.

Personally, I think we might be playing as e.g. Gadriel as the protagonist of SM3, and maybe you get to play as Titus in the last mission as a "hooraah fuck Necrons" segment with some busted mechanics.

>>545724402
DoW4's blurb confirms Jonah and Cyrus' positions which soft confirms Chapter Master Gabriel.

>>545728020
Being a captain means he can use all kinds of gear and weaponry.

The only other Smurf alternative is literally Malum Caedo.

>>545728020
My honest take is they will go generic for the next one and do a "Choose the Chapter" story.

Imagine being the dregs of Relic seeing a game you made only be a mere foundation to what's probably going to be a longstanding partnership between Saber and GW. Actual very real chance Saber might become as no different in-house at this rate. GW's own dedicated action game studio.

>>545728289
Why would your silly meme character be the only alternative?

>>545700389
>>545728020
Saber are going to shit bricks when they have to design, animate and properly fit capes for another class and since Teetus is specced for multiclass (except for heavy/devastator maybe) everyone might get one.
Boy oh boy are they going to suffer through all of that. I can already see all that texture clipping.

>>545708606
>An anon thankfully posted those unique campaign progress lines for us.
It was a pleasure. I'll update the banters so that the lines from campaign are better differentiated.

>>545731068
This shit happened in the same match.

>>545730653
The Raven Guard assault champ has a cloak.

>>545728020
>>545699765
I think it'll be a new squad. Gadriel appears to be a trusted right-hand man of Titus now, and Chairon seems to be out of the picture in favor of Metaurus. These guys are now simply too high status to be doing grunt work. So Space Marine 3 will center around a fresh batch of Primaris blueberries.

>>545730653
Just have the guy making the astartes mod do it because he got it working in like 2 hours or something

It's going to be Space Marine: Helldivers Editions.

The 500 planets is your conquest map.

>>545731196
were you able to get back up?

>>545688257
What game is this? actually looks really cool.

> SM3 Is going to be Necrons and Deathguard

I Kneel, absolute kino.

>>545740402
It's Cosmos Combatants II from famous Swordwar 2000 universe, of course!

>>545706198
Or it could be in the far future or far past. Or it could not happen at all.

>>545714997
>Captain job requirements
>Captain experience
So you have had to be a captain in order to become a captain? That's fucked up.

>>545740441
Necrons are always cool, but do they have a mass disposable horde unit like gaunts?

>>545743204
With the way it's going, even if they didn't, GW would invent a new melee unit just for the sake of SM3 having something.

>>545742942
Catch-22s do not end merely because it is the 42nd millennium
Fake it until you make it

>>545743204
Canoptek units
But the game could really need a bit of a combat rework to better fit the ranged nature of the fighting that you'd have if this happens

>>545743204
They will definitely come up with something.
I know that Anon who made this nice unit infograph talked about including Necrons kill team in the minoris section. Maybe those units?

>>545743204
Literally only just added them for some skirmish game
Before the lowest units they had were warriors and flayed ones which would obviously be fucking awful to fight as minoris with constant resurrections and gauss guns

>>545740363
No. I ended up testing if there'd be invisible barriers preventing me from falling to my death.
There weren't.

>>545744657
It's almost like QA didn't get to test decapitation enough or Saber can't into map design.

THEY JUMPIN' ME THEY JUMPIN' MEEEEEEEEEE

>>545743204
No

Necrons are the worst

You will "kill" them but they'll get back up ad infinitum

You only kill them permanently after a dice roll, then they're truly dead

Death Guard are even worse, knowing a shit slavoid dev like Saber they'll give each Plague Marine like Terminus-tier HP

It hurts me that we'll probably never see the World Eaters in a Space Marine game.

>Dreadnaught Acheran
>DOOOOOOOOOOSH
>THA CONQUEROR CONQUERS ONCE MEWER
>JUST WAN MAN AN 'IS PENDULOUS CERMAITE NUTSCACK
>YA DIDNE STAND A FUCKIN' CHANCE MATE

Redacted Champion is gonna be based on Captain Titus.

Do you think the next patch will bring about the long awaited customization overhaul that they promised?

1. yes and it will be good
2. yes but it will suck
3. we'll get it later
4. we'll never fucking get it

>>545724402
Angelos got a model for DoW3. Then DoW3 flopped so they quietly discontinued it.

>>545751606
I think it'll be teased with a little breakdown, but we won't get shit till Techmarine at the earliest.

>>545723334
He wasn’t going renegade. He was going to end up getting his own successor chapter.

>>545751606
I don't believe it's going to be on the level of pic related but who knows. Astartes mod did it and it was just one guy (former gane dev, but still a single dude). Maybe we'll get more control over colorable elements and accessories but I don't want to get my hopes up too much. We're talking about Saber after all.

>>545703932
>500 worlds tabletop campaign
>Space Marine 3.
I think Space Marine 3 will be just be an adaptation of this conflict in a video game form. Necrons were hinted at strongly already anyway

>>545728020
>Titus has Gravis Armor now
>Titus gets a playable section where he gets Boltstorm Gauntlets just like Calgar

>>545752175
If Saber had any intelligence, they would imitate this as much as possible. It gives them more cosmetics to sell, more cosmetics to dish out during events. Now it's not a complete shoulder, it's a trim for one of three slots on your shoulder. It's not a chest piece, it's a belt that can go with any chest etc.

>>545752175
It saddens me that up until now they've completely disregarded tabards and leg guards. The latter might have gotten some pieces but the customization of kneepads is non existent.

New majoris enemy leak

>>545752606
>If Saber had any intelligence, they would imitate this as much as possible.
The most hilarious part about this project is that it's the most upvoted one on their forums with good boi points: https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/ideas/8019-%E2%96%AAmodular-customization%E2%96%AA
yet Saber haven't even slightly acknowledged it. So they're either doing it or will make their own bootleg, limited version.

>>545754772
Chat is this real?

>>545754772
Man the devs are trying really fucking hard to curb the ranged spam problem with Chaos.

>>545754772
We should've got this instead of gayoss spawn.

Was literally on the last altar in vox lib on absolute when fuckin like 15 chaos spawn spawned and murder rushed everybody down.
Leveling heavy and his bolter, so I couldn't do shit. So fucking gay. Got robbed of over 5k xp.

>>545754772
How about they make cultists executable so I can get my armor and health back from them?

I think the chaos roster is fine right now
I'd like to see a limit on chaos spawns implemented but aside from that I'm having fun with chaos missions

I miss the original face. SM2's was already a huge downgrade but this new one from Secret Level feels so weird.

>>545758893
Limit on spawns would be fucking great. Also fuck sniper cultists.

>>545759197
I wonder what Space Marines use to shave. Straight razor? I bet the chapter serfs do it. I can imagine there being an entire team of them around a marine seeing to his hygiene needs while off duty.

>>545760127
>Brother it's almost time for the mission, the chapter hairstylist is expecting you!

>>545685737
You know your OST (SM2) is bad when an aRPG has more banger of a score: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua6lfRllw-Q
>>545698327
These ones are absolutely neato too.

>>545758208
You should be able to just walk up to them and be able to execute them.
It would be hell on balancing, but it would compensate for how bullshit soulreaper termies and chaos spawns are.
Honestly every enemy in chaos is annoying in some way that nids aren't.
>tzangor shields when minoris are already too tanky outside of headshots
>rubrics can teleport wherever they want whenever they want
>sorcerers can resurrect rubrics and fill the area with homing ghost missiles you either have to painstakingly shoot individually or rollslop like hell away from
>helbrutes can teleport on top of spamming aoes and bullshit ranged attacks, worst of both the neurothrope and carnifex rolled into one terminus

Just had a single gaunt jump on me and take out 90% of my health on top of two bars of armor. What the fuck is going on in this game

>>545762531
youre supposed to parry

>>545762531
Difficulty. :^)

>>545761101
Given game progression, I always had in my mind that Chaos was supposed to be tougher than Tyranids, as far as game mechanics go because of your points and no synapse backlash.
The increased cultist spawns and sorcerer doombolts do make me want to take the Volkite pistol against them, but staggering a Terminator with a plasma shot can save a run too.

>>545761101
>worst of both the neurothrope and carnifex rolled into one terminus
The Helbrute can be staggered out of animations unlike the Carnifex. Plus environments can block a charged plasma cannon shot so I think a Helbrute is actually the easiest terminus spawn.
The hardest part is getting a bunch of spawns and terminators spawning with it.

>>545761101
helbrute only has one or two unblockable attacks, i know its against my best interest, but it feels odd to be able to parry a thunderhammer

>>545707075
>What happened to Acheran?
You mean captain ACHK-

>>23611292
Here they are.

>>23599080

>>23600153

>>23600939

>>23601539

>>23602106

>>23602127

>>23602280

>>23605864

Plus I'll throw in more of mine.

>>545765118
English is my second language and the only accent i can pick up as different is scottish

so i liked this guy

>open mic gaystation player dies 4 times on Inferno
It's peak

>>545765494
> I did it again
Oh well.
Here's an ultramarine my friend made.

How's this game if I don't have a friend group to play it with?

reminder acheran fell to chaos because titus mogged him hard, he will be a grumpy scottish nurgle marine in sm3

>>545767886
The campaign is awful without friends, operations and PvP are perfectly fine
The issue with the campaign is that it also demands coop but has no random matchmaking, you either play with friends or the world's most worthless bots

the ultramarines arent ultra marines, they are marines from ultramar, so would the pronunciation be ultramar-eens instead of ultra marines

>>545767905
We'll seeeee...

The game has a lot of cosmetics if you want to look like a blingmaxxing chapter master or a champion but not much if you want to look like an "average" decorated veteran. I hope they improve that.

>1st meme guardsman
>talking about balance
>saber should nerf the strong stuff to make everything balanced
I've never seen a more dogshit take before. Nerfing the useful stuff isn't going to make everything else better.

>>545773868
He's just going to end up like Cyrus getting killed by a necron in the Dow4 trailer.

>>545775990
But Cyrus will just get the primaris affirming trans surgery like Tidus. Akeran is cooked.

>>545775071
You can customize your dude like that though except for the backpack banner of course

>>545775476
Aside from like the power fist imo, half the reason the strong shit is fun to use is because it's strong.
Nerfing that stuff won't make the shitty weapons any better. In fact it might exacerbate their shittiness by reducing any synergy they have with the better shit. Not to mention create more shitty weapons that would then require rebuffing.
Would be such a retarded situation.

I'm glad they've been mainly just buffing shit every patch. Aside from the lazy 15-20% damage buffs for bolters we keep getting, everything else seems to be pretty substantial.
Patch 11 looks like it'll make the power axe, bolt pistol, and bolt sniper rifle top tier. The heroic chainsword's getting mechanical upgrades like more finishers being changed and more perk synergy with the new finishers.

The multi melta getting nerfed a little seemed stupid though, considering it already wasn't that good pre-nerf.

>>545776193
Akeran gets a baby carrier

>>545773868
Well, there's also one more alternative waiting for our Scottish baldie.

Acheran turning traitor would be neat I guess, but there's like zero build up for that in SM2 unless they write more secret level shit or something.

Maybe they'll explain some 500 worlds changes in boltgun 2.

>>545776803
Power fist is fine as is. The hammer could use a buff to put it on par with the fist.

>>545773868
Leandros accused him of heresy

>>545773868
>Lost nearly the entire company in a single campaign
>The only call for reinforcements came from Titus, and Acheran is on record as opposing Titus' attempt
>Was a dickhead the whole time
Ventris was forced to journey into the Eye of Terror as part of a death oath for less.

>>545777656
He is either dead or promoted to some bullshit rowboat helper position.
I bet on death.

>>545754772
aint no way

Bump

>Captain Titus, you may have reconquered 500 worlds for the Primarch...
>But the stain of corruption always lingers and I will always be watching your future actions

>>545776193
when cyrus dies he was already wearing gay phobos armour
the idiots making dow4 just leaked his campaign fate

>>545792420
>conquers 500 worlds
>Guilliman personally kisses his feet and gives him a successor chapter
>finally free from Leandros
>calls them the Leandrean Cunts

>>545792420
games workshop missed the boat on this kek
just have leandros as the 2nd company chaplain standing on the other side of metaurus
also rip chairon
only one nigga allowed in the 2nd company

>>545793341
But there's Decimus and Quartus

>>545793341
yfw Chyrone will be the lead in SM3 and Tidus will just be giving orders

>Captain Titus gets just 2 Ultrasmurfs (veteran sergeant Gadriel and veteran ancient Metaurus) along with 2 regular women
>no Leandros as his chaplain (kek)
>no Veridian and Talasa squads elevated as his personal retinue
>Chairon is gone, probably dead

Mutalith glitched on me in my most recent run.
Two of my bozo teammates died in the darkness section of the fight and the mutalith just spawned to the left of the boss arena doing nothing. I destroyed all but one tentacle and just hacked away at it before its healthbar reappeared and text prompts indicated it was weakened but it still continued to do nothing because one tentacle was still up.

>walk into a closed room in the middle of a building complex
>there's a supply drop pod

>>545795569
I once had it just disappear once instead of teleporting into the darkness phase (it still teleported us, though). We all got out, killed tentacles, it reappeared and once we triggered the recovery phase, it instead started doing the darkness phase entry animation instead, so we just killed it.

>>545795756
I don't like the knees on those dreadnoughts. The old, wobbling ones were cooler.

>>545762531
I don't fucking know, man. I think these devs bumbled their way into a winning formula and it's just been random flailing (not unlike a pack of Chaos Spawn) trying to capitalise off it since then.

>>545642639
Balance hammer, burstfire bolt pistol, pommel smash, full Unga bunga ground pound damage. A double jump with proper aus perks let's me do 60% of a Trygon, Tyrant or Vortex's health.

>>545795756
kek

>>545792420
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmmFRi522tc

>>545796361
It's in line with the rest of primaris equipment which seems to have a general theme of smooth and sleek, being the complete opposite of brutalist and boxy that people generally like imperial tech for in the first place.

Patch 11 when?

Chaos missions aren't fun

>>545809838
end of nov

stop asking is in 3 weeks

>>545810453
>stop asking
No.

Heavy Bolt Rifle is good actually

My last 100 hours of playtime were all on Heavy with the multi melta and I think it's time to finally play another class
What's fun at the moment? The last time I touched another class was before the siege mode update came out

>>545813368
It's alright. It's fun to use for sure because it's a bullet hose.

>>545813538
Tacticool.

Imperial Fists 3rd company veteran sergeant for the Dude Wall. I tried my best to make the red and yellow paint scheme look good.

>>545633391
Iron hands
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpnYsBMH-Pc
>bu-bu it's AI
Yes. Flesh is weak.

>>545813802
Alright tacticool it is
Do I go stalker bolt rifle, plasma incinerator or pyreblaster?

>>545688257
>Nightlord
>no lightning claws, just a shitty thunder hammer.
sad.

>>545814418
Remember to use Raptors scheme for your tacticool ops with stalker bolt, Brother. Otherwise, go full ham with pyreblaster and worry not.

>>545814418
Stalker will melt just about anything in the game. Plasma will put you to sleep, it's legit so fucking boring. Pyreblaster is just Heavy Pyre blaster but overheats quicker and doesn't have to rely on heavy stance.

>>545814570
fine... I hate the raptors but I'll do it because I have no free will

>>545814709
You'll get over it, Brother. Good luck!

I can't fucking do any Chaos missions anymore because a Helbrute spawns every 2 seconds with 500 extremis enemies

>>545815086
Massive skill issue.

>>545813538
play any class you want except assault

>>545815226
On the devs part, I agree

If they're still adding chapters when the fuck will I get my Grey Knights?

>>545815458
It's called Space Marine 2, not Grey Knights 2

>>545815458
Grey Knights are to regular astartes as SAS is London metro police.

>>545815716
Not a fair comparison, Metro police are more like Alpha Legion. You don't know which side they're on.

>>545815458
I'm glad Grimnar slapped those sissy fucking Grey Knights shit. Special snowflake ass chapter.

>>545815458
Grey Knights deserve no love

>>545815458
The same time I get my Iron Snakes.

>>545815458
Grey knights are all psykers that wear special terminator armor and generally wield force weapons, it would just be dumb to be a "grey knight" in regular armor with regular weapons and no psyker powers.

>>545816568
Not all of them wear Terminator armour, Purifiers wear special Mk7 Aegis armour.

>>545633391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47RK0qI2DiI

>>545816689
whats the lore on that pic?

>>545816826
Based Lamenter chad saved all the civilians, now Salamander bros are saving him

>>545817026
so its not depicting an actual event in lore? its just some reddit shit?

>>545817104
I dunno, it's just fan art i thought was cool

Grey knights? more like gay knights LMFAO

>>545775071
Yeah it's like there's the default, standard-issue armor, then maybe a piece or two of armor that has a little bit of customization (like a leg with a skull on the knee, or a backpack with a purity seal on it), and then there's just an absolute assload of chapter master-tier ancient relic armor. I'd like there to be more armor pieces in that middle area.

Uh bros... was Leandros...

>>545818983
Love the fur cloak but can someone tell me why Titus ended up with a bolter and chainsword? All the armory of the second company, all the weapons he used throughout the games and he equips himself with the most basic bitch setup

>>545819362
Hey sometimes you just love the classics.

>>545819362
hey man, keep it simple stupid

>>545818983
that explains his warp resistance

>>545818983
Genuinely the hardest chaos fit I've ever seen.

>>545820142
Chaos warriors have always looked way fucking better than CSM precisely because they know when to tone it down and stick to basics

>>545813538
Play as tactical with melta rifle. All the shotgunning goodness you love, but with viable melee.

>>545816083
>implying
The London metro police aren't nearly as subtle as to where their allegiances lie.

>boot up sm2
>no block power axe
>no wrapped bolt sniper
>close sm2

>>545821775
This general should just 404 until the update drops in the last week of November.

i get so mad when a tyranid or chaos faggot hurts my battle brother

>>545821775
I know your pain.

i feel so bad for non block fags that have not autistically memorized every attack in the game

So this is probably what the Techmarine Champ will be based on, considering this is the first dedicated Iron Hands figure in like twenty aeons.

>>545819362
I think it's a mark of badassery when a veteran makes it work with the regular degular bread and butter of his organization. It shows a mastery of the fundamentals, not using special tech or magic as a crutch. He's HIM because he's him, not because of the weapons he carries. God help you if he gets something stronger.

>>545823018
It's a trope in anime and Japanese video games for a reason. The first boss will be Godfucker Garugamesh of the Nine Realms, the final boss will be Zanzibart, Fallen Knight of the Kingdom.

That Fall of Atreus is complete and utter bullshit. We had multiple Meatball swarms, multiple double or even triple sorcerer spawns, AND 2 Helbrutes. One just before the second Dreadnought encounter, and another when we entered the battery area. We were able to hold it down through multiple deaths. I will say we got lucky twice when the game bugged out during the first Dreadnought encounter and no enemies spawned in so he just went straight to the door, and in the second, we mulched a tide of Meatballs and then it just stopped and let us through. The finale came down to the Bulwark doing the final wave by himself hiding at the back. The Heavy spawned back in and instantly went down, but was able to launch the ship with his dying breath, which spawned me back in, and I was IMMEDIATELY being shredded by like 6 Rubricae at the top while the dialog played. I had the tiniest amount of health when the screen went black. It couldn't have been any closer. If the Heavy had been any slower on the button or if I had taken one more bolt, we'd have failed. FUCK THIS GAME.

>>545822951
at least post their actual techmarine

>>545823546
Should have posted codes

I beat it as a MM Heavy with a traditional Bulwark after the Sniper left

>>545824158
I get performance anxiety whenever I play with people from here. You guys know me because I'm not the kind of pussy faggot to censor his name when posting shots. I also like to keep the option of rage quitting. Most of the time, when shit doesn't go perfect, I just leave because I already have everything that I want. There's really nothing to play for.

>>545823018
Sure good luck fighting anything mildly armored though
I guess he will be a force multiplier on the tabletop because you don't really need a captain for weakling horde clearing, especially with how rare horde spam is in this edition

>>545824463
>You guys know me because I'm not the kind of pussy faggot to censor his name
Put a name on your posts then bitch.

>>545824107
Ah cheers, didn't realize I posted the wrong picture.

>>545824485
I don't know what you're talking about, I'm not autistic enough to like table top games. Shit is boring and I can't imagine paying so much money for figurines AND having to paint them.
>>545824661
It's in the screenshot. One guy even recognized me during the test server. BabykillaDrugdeala.

>>545824463
>I get performance anxiety whenever I play with people from here
It's the opposite for me I feel uplifted knowing I have my brothers by my side. Missions that are a real struggle with randoms are a cakewalk with (you) guys

I also forgot to mention that when the piece of shit Sniper left, the game didn't add a 3rd member and the stupid nigga died from a Helbrute's plasma shot in the factory fork

I was stomping and parrying the Helbrute while the Bulwark dealt with the Terminators

MM does shit damage against bosses but the modifier ensured I was eating 1/8 of its health per shot and every stomp and gunstrike eats 1/4

No Helbrute spawn on the railroad final area, just a bunch of Tzaaniggers and the usual Terminators

>>545825138

GAY

THE POST

I enjoy fisting.

>>545823546
and its still the best chaos mission with the least amount of bullshit waiting or annoying bosses

>>545825242
is that a heavy bolt rifle in your pants or are you happy to see me?

Just played a match with one o them dang ol koreans

Im going to sleep.

>>545633391
>crimson fists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlTMjXMK3dc

>>545686819
It's a well known thing that red heads are being replaced by niggers in all forms of media.

>>545830186
Lamenters bros.

Classic stripes or Codex colors for helmet rank signifiers?

Keep in mind both are valid for Primaris Lamenters, because they've never been officially shown with the old markings, and they're also stated to be more Codex compliant than other BA successors. It's pure preference for which one you like.

>>545832834
I feel like it needs to be said that whoever designed the lamenters clearly was unaware he was copying taxi cab design.

>>545832834
I like the red white vet sergeant helms on the Lamenters for the same reason I like them on Imp Fists. Good dash of color to help balance out the yellow. I'll have a super fancy looking mustard dude when the new veteran molecular shoulder drops.

>>545833743
It's now iconic though. It's pure love it/hate it, but everybody knows what a Lamenter looks like.

>>545833743
It's closer to crazy taxi actually. Cause of the red.

>>545832834
>Classic stripes or Codex colors for helmet rank signifiers?
I really like both but I run the black stripe to honor the old designs.

>>545814570
>>545814702
This grind is no fun at all
The stalker (currently purple) does less damage than my plasma pistol and has 1/4th the ammo
The auspex is great for dealing with priority targets but I am too defenseless against hordes, cleaving with the chainsword into groups of hormagaunts with a bunch of termagants backing them up always results in a negative trade for me. The drain on healthpacks is insane and I'm a burden to my teams and none of my weapons deal enough burst damage to restore my contest health before it starts depleting even with the team perk for that active
Is the stalker actually good? It feels like playing sniper but shittier

>>545835024
Stalker, Plasma Incinerator, and Pyreblaster are Tact's top 3 weapons.

>>545835124
Ok but how do you
1 deal with hordes?
2 don't die?

>>545835229
If fighting tyranids, I pop a bunch of warrior heads in like 3 hits and the minoris mobs blow up.
If chaos, I use plasma instead since headshotting is significantly more annoying
>don't die
Fencing chainsword

>>545835229
kill majoris and everything else around them dies
kill things before they hit you

>>545835229
Spam the fuck out of chainsword shoulder bash. It creates a bubble of protection that lasts long enough to keep looping over and over. Especially on the Heroic version which can punch into shoulder, or using the Full Throttle skip.

>>545832834
I prefer codex, personally.
The white helmet just looks so good with absolutely every color scheme imo.

>>545836395
Nominated for dude wall btw.

>>545835229
Tactical's stalker effectively has infinite ammo because he gains ammo on majoris kills and stalker has perks for refunding ammo on headshots and just hitting enemies. You can use the damage stalker and just shoot everything you see and almost never run out of ammo.
Parrying and just shooting your stalker into hordes that don't have majoris is still effective enough at killing them.

>>545835024
swinging into gaunts is never a losing situation unless you don't know how to parry. even just spamming lights will put a few into execute so you can just get an armor bar back

I saw some dude with a chest plate that only had a single skull in the middle; how'd he get that?

>>545847962
Twitch event. It'll be in the Heroic store in the future.

>>545839363
I just hate how small chaos head hit boxes are, and the fact that it feels like part of it merges with their chest if you aim around the lower half.

>>545814140
Received.

>>545839363
I can't wait for there to be a decap weekly strategem with faction exchange and you get a helbrute here

>>545858786
>vortex beast burrowing underground because they had nothing to replace the trygon with
>it can still do the disco spergout

>>545858786
Any tyranid op with a unique boss would have that boss replaced with vortex beast. Do you want more vortex beast?

I swear anyone who uses the Salamander skin for sniper is almost always a total fucking retard.

>>545864454
Don't worry, very soon there will be another way to show their love for sons of Vulkan.

>>545866326
>that helmet
>4 successors
By the Emperor... And there I was thinking Assault gets all the hate from the devs. I suppose he's not the only target of their ire....

>>545815458
You would have to roll in an entirely new set of armor, AND roll in an entirely new batch of weapons that are exclusive to them, AND make a new character from scratch with all new voice lines from the entire Operations group, AND try to justify them showing up for just a single TS warband showing up for a fucking Ultramarine game. I want the drugs you're smoking if you think this is ever going to happen
>>545835229
If you kill any Tyranid that's a Warrior and above, it immediately kills or puts into execute (depending on distance and difficulty level) every gaunt near it. For Chaos, learn how to headshot and parry properly and suddenly the only annoying enemies are Chaos Spawn and Enlightened Tzaangor

Neither of these are tech marines
>>545824107
This is a named character: Iron Father Feirros. Master of the Forge.
>>545822951
This is another named character: Caanok Var, the Iron Captain of Clan Company Avernii

If you want a good image of what you're actually going to get, start with pic related. Then afterward we MIGHT get a few features from the other stuff you two posted on top of the this baseline.

Would lov to have the power baton Cannok got though

>>545868194
>Neither of these are tech marines
>This is a named character: Iron Father Feirros. Master of the Forge.
That IS a techmarine though. Sure it's IH so he also does chaplain duties, and he's more senior than the techpriest we're likely to get in the game being the head honcho techpriest of his chapter, but he's still primarily a techpriest.
Saying he isn't is sort of like saying that Azariah Kyras wasn't a chapter master because he was also a librarian and was a named character.
An iron hands champion skin for the techmarine has a decent likelihood of being based on that model, all things considered.

>>545866326
Yeah, they could've at least included one or two more successors two flesh out a bit more cosmetics, but what do I know.

>>545743204
They could use scarab swarms i guess? Or packs of flayed ones would also work

>>545867142
Yeah, they could've at least included one or two more successors two flesh out a bit more cosmetics, but what do I know.

>>545868982
Dark krakens are the only interesting successor of salamanders tho

>a terminator, a chaos spawn and a helbrute all rushing me down attacking at retarded intervals so I'm frametrapped no matter what I do
Chaos is an abject failure of game design.

>>545866326
De'Vulkan Brown, DMV worker.

>>545867693
Giving you an updown

>>545868194
>Those prices
Why not just get a 3D printer?

>>545871474
nta but I guess you could go for FDM printing with resin being a lot more toxic. The latter also requiring a lot prep work and generally you need to take precautions when handling this stuff prior to curing it. That said, both are very viable options long term if you're willing to commit.
t. Brother who recently bought a 3d printer

>>545836395
>>545836893
Received.

>>545871748
>t. Brother who recently bought a 3d printer
t. Brother who owns a 3d printer.
FDM is kind of dogshit for making miniatures. There's a reason resin is so hazardous and is still in use. You can go on youtube and mess around with the slicer settings a little, but FDM is mainly good at building big (the size of a grapefruit or watermelon) simple objects.

>>545873124
>FDM is kind of dogshit for making miniatures.
Yeah, I wouldn't recommend printing minis with FDM. Truth be told thouch you can get *quite* close to resin if you use specific filament and a smaller nozzle. It will obviously not be as smooth and details will be lost, sadly, but it could be done. But, I gotta say, things like Land Raiders or Thunderhawks come out beautifully. Anyway, maybe once I get another place to store resin printer and all the necessities I'll upgrade. For now I gotta stick with FDM.

>>545871748
fdm cannot make those mechandrites, people like to say "muh 3d printing", but that doesnt work for most things that are really fine, the most you can do is make relatively medium size geometric shapes. you would need sla printer, then you can make very fine and precise things

>>545743945
>avatar of khaine on a level with hive tyrant, vortex beast or some shitty tau suit
do you want eldar fags to firebomb their studio?

>>545869438
Dark Krakens are just Salamanders with the fire motif switched to water. Black Dragons are the good successor.

>started playing again after a long hiatus
>see this prestige shit, set out to max out every class against my better judgement
>had around 150 hours clocked when I started, some classes weren't 25 yet (Bulwark and Vanguard) but it didn't take long to level them up
>over the next month and a half whenever I had the opportunity to play vidya I was playing this
>besides the occasional attempts at stratagems once I had a maxed out character I could use and some PvP matches that I could probably count on one hand, I was doing nothing but running operations or hard sieges purely to grind
>went from more or less 150 hours when I started, to 268 hours by the time I finally prestige IV'd and maxed out my last class
By no means was I using the most efficient levelling method available (especially since I was only playing on ruthless and lethal for a while as I got used to the game again) but holy shit is that a ridiculous amount of time to max everything out, which honestly I wouldn't even mind so much if you didn't have to reset your progress four fucking times for every single class. It's so lame to play the game for so many hours while not even being able to use your class' entire kit, especially for classes like Assault or Vanguard that feel neutered without certain perks.

It'd make more sense for it to be an XP bar separate from your main progression so you still have your core kit as you play, which would probably incentivise people to try out stratagems even if they're not maxed out. I can only guess Saber's logic is the way it is now is better for player retention, and therefore players will be more likely to buy cosmetic packs. That's the only logical explanation I can think of as for why they'd ever do it this way, especially considering there were apparently people on their forums telling them how terrible of an idea this system is before it went live. I just can't think of a reason for it that isn't cynical.

>>545874904
Avatar of khaine isn't really all that strong compared to most of the heavier things pretty much all races have access to, he'd get bodied by a hierophant.
He only gets to be the obligatory monstrous boss because he's iconic, but us killing a hierophant gives us every right to kill something else retardedly strong, like a wraithknight or revenant.

>>545743945
>Aspect Warrior Exarchs in Majoris
Fun thing about Exarchs is that they can punch way above "their level". A Howling Banshee Exarch once murdered both a Chapter Master and his honour guard and that's not far from what they can do on the tabletop.

>>545743945
I remember complaining to the dude who made these months ago that half of this shit makes no sense but he's one of those people who just blindly use Codex values and disregard all lore despite the fact that SM2 clearly follows the latter more than the former.

>>545877520
Everyone does in writing, basically any space marine with a surname wins a fistfight with an avatar of khaine. But TT is really not the place to lean on for eldar power, basic tyranid warriors kind of make them look like chumps there, and they aren't really any stronger than rubrics either.
The chart's being pretty generous to eldar as it is.

>>545878868
Talos got bodied by Jain Zar in his own book.

>>545878565
>the "lore" of some literal fucking who marines actually killing a hierophant
>suggest an eldar guardian is individually anything less than a terminus-level threat and the eldar fans start having conniptions

>>545878565
Titus and two marines literally kill a sorcerer and a big bird. You faggots always talking about lore as if it isnt secondary flavor thing for playing with toy soldiers.

>>545886114
Following the lore means anything can happen because there is no canonical measurement to anything in 40K
1 marine can kill dozens of eldar solo
1 eldar can kill dozens of custodes solo
1 custodes can kill dozens of marine solo
and thus we've completed a loop where anything and everything can happen

>>545886782
>and thus we've completed a loop where anything and everything can happen
Exactly. And that's somewhat how the chart was made, because in a videogame you can and will always find a reason for X to beat Y. Let's not pretend games aren't there for entertainment, which often means doing things that don't fall in line with source material (though in 40k power levels and who can kill who is bullshit anyway). Some will not like it but for the purpose of the plot and gameplay that's how it's going to be most of the time if not always.

>>545878565
I remember some time ago there was an anon throwing a hissy fit at an autarch there as well. motherfucker, if my operations dudes can blast through heldrakes, hive tyrants, trygons etc, not to mention fuckload of other ungodly shit thrown at them, you can be damn sure anything on that pic will fall drop on their knees before me.

>>545871474
You simply cannot get even close to the level of detail with a 3D printer compared to injection molded plastic. Especially on the newer models.

>>545878868
I am not a specialist, but would a lady with a power glaive that can carve up termies left and right and kill chapter masters really lose terribly to tyranid warriors on the tabletop? Aren't they basically the type of infantry she is supposed to be good against?
>basically any space marine with a surname wins a fistfight with an avatar of khaine
Haha. In Mars trilogy an avatar tanks a power fist, regenerates the wound and oneshots the named Black Templar chaplain (reclusiarch?) in return. It's kind of wat but also really funny because he enters the story for that short segment in one chapter to kill this lone space marine and then walks away, never to be heard of again.

>>545880128
That's ridiculous already, I agree. But I also agree with anons that said the Eldar don't really feel like a horde faction. Enemies in both SM games all do have some chaff, orks have orks, gretchins, squigs. Tyranids have gaunts and are really the hordest of them all. Chaos has human cultists in both games and beastmemes in the second. Dark Eldar would suit these games' style better, I feel, since they aren't above utilising mercenaries from other races,can be grown in vats and then there are haemonculi with their crimes against nature.

The best use of Eldar in a Space Marine type game would be something like Eternal Crusade, unironically.

Heroic heavy plasma kinda blows. Pretty bad ammo economy but the CHP recovery is okay I guess because of its fire rate.

>>545877001
If they listened to feedback properly from day 1, we'd have a polished astartes overhaul mod tier SM2 by now, GW willing.

And they still aren't listening to enough feedback.

>>545892278
It's literally tied with the fire rate HP for his best gun. I'm always 38+K damage with it.

>>545892278
it's hilarious that the heavy has shit ammo economy outside of the heavy bolter
also has the most stupid way to recover ammo (melee execute an extremis enemy)
straban should get emperor's vengeance and all of heavy's guns should have x4 the regular ammo count

>>545895042
Ammo recovery perks and health recovery perks are bad.

Ranged weapons should simply be stronger at the cost of limited ammo supply, and melee should play a bigger focus. Deeper combo system, all moves serve a purpose, more countering via recognizing enemy stances and using the right melee attack, ledges should be dangerous instead of having invisible barriers everywhere etc.

>>545895443
>Ranged weapons should simply be stronger at the cost of limited ammo supply, and melee should play a bigger focus.
No fuck off Soulslopper

I want to believe.

>>545895727
>he likes wasting an entire mag on a majoris enemy

>>545895727
Weapons are never going to feel good if they have infinite ammo, retard. This is precisely where Saber's head is because they've caught themselves in a Catch 22. You can't have an infinite use ranged answer for everything.

>>545832834
Black Stripe all the way

>>545832834
>Let's see Paul Allen's card

>>545895727
Ah yes, I love having infinite ammo on Tactical with the caveat of none of his Bolters being good minus the ones that are also on Sniper/Vanguard as well

Ok finally i prestige 4 the sniper i hate this class, 2 months took me to prestige all classes as a new player and i ignored sniper for a month

i have completed all hard strats im done with this game until patch 11

>>545896987
HBR puts a tyranid warrior into execute in like 10-15 rounds. Everything sucks against chaos though

>>545895996
>>545896015
>>545896987
I'm a Space Marine, there is only the shooting phase

Melee should always be a last resort, not a main option

Fall back and reload, always keep shooting

>>545897412
>Melee should always be a last resort, not a main option
t. Raptors

>>545897412
Yeah, unless you're a flesh tearer, or marines malevolent, or one of the other many chapters that prefer melee.

MM marines would consider you a pussy.

To each their own though. There isn't one singularly correct way for a space marine to operate.

>>545892278
I've been clearing all the hardstrats with it, it makes the difficulty completely trivial

>>545876429
Black Dragons are no longer Salamanders successors, they’re unknown founding now FYI

>>545895727
>melee = soulslop
Kys.
Dark souls wasn't the first fucking game ever made.
Asking for bigger movesets and for individual moves to be less niche is asking them to go above and beyond souls' typical combat systems, which devs were doing before Fromsoft came along. With smaller teams and less resources no less.

>>545892278
That’s crazy cuz it’s pretty much his strongest gun
Heavy Bolter can’t match it in DPS and also has to hit only headshots to come close, and regular charged plasma has to charge, which is clunky when you’re getting swarmed
I used to think it was kind of ass too, but after hard carrying the last few weekly hard strats with it with like 40K+ ranged damage on the latest one, my mind has been changed
Ammo economy isn’t really a huge issue as long as you use your sidearm sometimes and consistently get those extremis executions

>>545899892
This is a ranged game with melee tackled on, you are mentally retarded just for asking for something like that.

>>545633391
Nik Sharrowkyn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra6p_Zq8HzM

You honor me, Wallanon.

>>545897147
At least you have a real melee weapon you can put block on and everything.
Your class ability is top tier.
Your primaries are top tier in nid missions, aside from the carbine that's good everywhere imo. And you don't have to kill your mobility to unlock their true potential.

Not to mention you have cool capes to wear.

I'm leveling heavy right now, and it's dogshit.
I miss being able to melee outside of shitty balanced parries and gunstrikes, which I don't count as a melee attack.
I finished leveling the HBR, HP, and HB, so now I'm stuck leveling the MM and HF. So goodbye to range.
At least I'm on my 4th prestige now, and hordes in my face shouldn't be as bad as when I was leveling the bolter.

Also Gravis sucks. Poor man's terminator armor.
It would be fine, like tacticus, if they just let you get rid of the leg tubes and ceramite hood. You can get rid of the hood, but then you're left with like two breast plate options, and one of them's dlc, and it's even chapter specific iirc.

>>545901186
I main assault and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>545900404
IDK I am not really impressed. I guess I need to play with it more.

Do Lamenters and Blood Angels even use the laurels on the helmets like the Ultramarines? I thought it was mostly an Ultra thing because of the Roman inspired aesthetic.

>>545903062
A lot of chapters fuck with roman aesthetics, blood angels being one of them.
Laurels are very common across a lot of chapters.

We'd all be wearing generic laurelless MK7 helmets if we could though. Until update 11, we're stuck with laurels.
MK7 looks so good in this game that it's the best helmet in the game imo, even despite the forced laurels and forehead skull.
It's a real step up from the MK8 helmet.

>>545903062
The laurels are a common decoration across all chapters except maybe the space wolves because they have that wolf hyperfixation

>>545903062
The laurels are one of the handful of "universal signs of status and rank" things put on armor across every Chapter. They're often gifted from one Chapter to the other as a matter of respect, and to highlight the battle prowess of cousins they've come to respect. Even the Raven Guard rock the laurels, and they hate shiny shit on their armor.

>jumped by 3 chaos spawns having a seizure
>almost make it out but disc chicken does it's boomerang hit
>had sneed
>mfw

>>545905885
Such is the life of the average chaos mission player.

>>545905885
I hate it when 3 of those niggers stunlock you against a wall

LOL LMAO!!!! I LITERALLY WON'T EVER PLAY CO OP WITH OTHER PEOPLE I HATE EVERYONE

Crazy how much easier this game is with bots.

>>545902387
We knew you had brain damage friend.

>>545903062
Gold laurels are universal bits and bobs for Space Marines who did something noteworthy
For true professionals they just use a regular helmet or paint the laurel black/matching chapter colour in battle
There's also variants like gold band runes for Yiffs

>>545908862
Takes one to know one, meleelet.

>I CAN ONLY SPARE THREE DREADNOUGHTS
>THREE DREADNOUGHTS

>>545910087
lmao

>>545910087
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrI3-3dyyRI

acheran was a storm warden forced to be in the ultramarines
same thing with gadriel originally from the white scars
at least chairon was a true ultramar citizen

>>545908991
>and bobs for Space Marines

>>545910087
>three dorito dreads kill everything
>you just follow along behind them hearing only EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

i got this game but i only play the pvp, haven't got past campaign stage 3. is this normal?

>>545923654
I've put way more hours into the PvP, mostly because I came from the first game which was almost entirely PvP-focused. It's fun. The PvE's got more stuff though, and it's fun too. I started playing operations literally just to get the prestige cape for my sniper in PvP, but I enjoyed it so now I play a good amount of it too.

>>545832834
Red stripe.

>>545892278
I don't get how anyone can say the heroic plasma cannon is underwhelming. I reached prestige IV with Heavy after every other class and that thing carried the everloving shit out of me the entire way, making him by far the easiest class to grind for. As for ammo economy, Additional Supplies and Auxiliary Reload help a lot.
Shoot floor, win more.

>>545832834
It's kinda nice that saber accidentally let us make that crossed sword symbol.

>>545925056
Yeah unironically the fact that you can just shoot the floor is what makes it so good imo
Like Heavy Bolter can put out similar DPS but you actually have to aim and hit headshots, and I love regular Plasma but there’s a lot of times where you just can’t get a charged shot off cuz you’re getting dogpiled by Spawn
There’s so many times where I’ve been surrounded in a bad situation and just magdumped into the floor next to the mob and gotten enough executions to live, also helps cuz you can hipfire it and still keep peripheral vision to parry attacks

>>545924298
Does this game have even half the amount of tech SM1 did? I remember weird tricks in the PvP of that game, like the one where you could aim the stalker bolter without having to use the scope, pretty much making it the best weapon for tactical.

>>545930419
>Does this game have even half the amount of tech SM1 did?
No it's super simplified the maps are smaller and less intricate classes are dumbed down and customization is severely cut down

>>545930419
I'm way too casual to answer that question. My SM1 memories are either playing tactical with the perk that gave you two primaries so I could constantly charge/uncharge the plasma gun to delete someone's shield then switch to the storm bolter to burst them down, or playing heavy with the plasma cannon and doing the same thing except the plasma cannon would just vaporize someone.

SM2 I'm mostly tactical because you can carry around double shock grenades whereas everyone else only has one equipment slot and that just feels unfair.

>>545912174
Are you implying Gadriel isn't a true son of Guilliman?

>look up Sons of Guilliman chapter
>They're retards that constantly fuck up and no one trusts them
Gman keeps being a jobber

>>545933695
Just wait for Titus to get his own successor chapter he will redeem Guilliman's good name

>>545933695
>the overall group of guys who have the most consistently stable, thriving, most livable (by modern day standards) part of the Imperium despite enduring some of it’s worst sieges and calamities are actually all just jobbers
You exist in a strange world anon

>>545935702
I think this is one big thing most tourists and newfags to 40K miss when they hear about how fucked up and grimdark the world is. Like sure, you’d have a shitty existence if you lived on a Hive World or Forge World, but if you happened to live on one of the worlds in Ultima Segmentum through most of the Imperium’s history, your daily life really wouldn’t be any different from a Roman citizen at the height of the reign of the 5 Good Emperors sometime around 300AD. You’d wake up early, pray to your local diety (The Emperor), have a meal consisting mostly of fresh grains, vegetables, whatever, and then go to work farming, doing clerical work, or whatever in or near a clean city with beautiful, aesthetic architecture that is honestly better than what we have today (FUCK brutalism and FUCK modern architecture.) You could expect to start a family, have a wife and kids, and die of old age unless you happened to be born in one of those shitty times where you might die to a raid from northern barbarians (Nids, Nurgle.) And honestly, it’s probably a better life than most people on the Earth have today.

Yeah actually the heroic plasma is pretty okay.

So my Lamenter Bulwark is more or less finished, prestige lvl 4, Xenophase, dripped out as i like him

Which class do i level next? The options are as follow:

>Raptor Sniper
>Ultramarine Tactical
>Salamander Heavy

>>545936653
You can't even really call it a tourist/new fag thing considering GW leans into the grimderp shit so hard. How many books and games start off with the "Cruelest regime imaginable" bullshit even though, if you read any books not explicitly set on factory planets, you see that there's plenty of room for normal people. Most humans exist in horrible conditions in 40k like how most humans do now when you take Africa, India, China, and the third world into account. The Imperium is such a broad spectrum.

>>545939984
>Hey Gadriel, check this out! This trick will blow Leandros away!

>>545939984
Oh Titus...

>>545938263
Blood Angel Heavy
Salamander Sniper
Space Wolves Tactical
:)

>>545938263
multimelta heavy is probably the strongest build in the game if you want that.

>>545939984
we call it Deathwatch humor you wouldn't get it

>>545942874
It’s not even in Heavy’s top 3 strongest weapons, let alone builds in the whole game lmao
The only time it’s better than okay is with boosted close-range damage stratagems

>>545942874
Except you not contributing anything to boss damage.

>>545943583
And Zoanthrope damage
Or Biovore damage
Or anything further than 15 feet away damage
Or quite frankly, anything damage once the new patch goes live and the double-tap hipfire -> sight in bug gets removed.

>>545943201
Multimelta heavy can easily carry any mission on Absolute what do you mean that's not even top 3?
>>545943583
The boss damage is fine, it's won't melt them like a multimelta should but you still perform well with it. I don't know why Saber decided that tactical should be the dedicated boss remover but hey at least you're not assault or vanguard

>>545743945
What units could we put there for Chaos? I mean they will definitely be in the next game but I hope it won't T'sons.

The current modifiers is just the devs shilling close combat warfare, why doesn't stratagems have a modifier that does the inverse? Like more damage if you're beyond 30 feet or more?

>>545944618
Fighting Plague Marines would be awesome. Imagine a Doom Eternal style gore system where you're blowing chunks off of them and it's just goo and gore everywhere.

>>545944913
I don't want plague marine executions to heal their allies while damaging everything else around them.

>>545944913
Make it more like Dark Ages, so you can blow their arms and legs off, and they’ll still keep coming at you.

>>545944618
Maybe an Emperor’s Children Warband. They’ve neutered them enough to the point where they’re advertiser friendly now.

>>545944590
Heavy in general can easily carry any mission on Absolute.
But Heroic Plasma, regular Plasma, and Heavy Bolter all have more DPS, more range, more boss damage, and more versatility than multi-melta. Heavy was the first class I got to Prestige 4 back when Prestige dropped on only Absolutes and I’d argue that multi-melta is tied for his weakest weapon with heavy flamer. The only things it does really well is horde clear, and so much other stuff does horde clear that it’s not a niche that really ever needs to be filled.

>>545944913
>Plague Marines
same HP as Terminus
movement speed very slow
can come equipped with plague swords, blighted bolters, blighted rocket launchers, blighted heavy bolters
when they die they explode and does AoE damage to friend and foe alike
>Nurglings
main Chaos chaff
moves fast, especially in a ball
gets killed easily but there are millions of them
every Nurgling killed has a small explosion that sometimes chains to nearby Nurglings
>Plaguebearer
same HP as Extremis
movement speed very slow
melee oriented unit with meme parry animations
>Deathshroud Terminators
3x HP as Terminus
movement speed very slow but can teleport once every 60 seconds
standard Terminator weaponry
>Poxwalkers
same HP as Majoris
movement speed very slow
the other Chaos chaff that are quite numerous
>Bloat Drone
Extremis enemy, flying
Same HP as Terminus
spawn in pairs or threes
>Blight Hauler
Same HP as Terminus
spawn in pairs
actually fast
artillery unit

>>545944618
It's Khorne's turn
Minoris:
>Cultists
>Goremongers (flying cultists)
>Jakhals (berserker cultists)
>Flesh hounds
Majoris:
>Bloodletters
>Berzerkers
>Chaos spawn
Extremis:
>Exalted Eightbound
>Bloodcrusher
>Skull Cannon
Terminus:
>Helbrute (red)
>Defiler
>Lord on Juggernaut
Operation boss:
>Daemon Prince of Khorne
>Lord of Skulls
>Maulerfiend/Forgefiend

I only play Assault because it's the only class that is close to a "Hero" class that uses melee and guns simultaneously without any other nonsense.

What do I do when Thropes spawn? Pssh...wouldn't you like to know

>>545945314
>Dark Ages
I wonder how many years I'm gonna have to wait for that to drop to $20? I'm not paying $70 for any game that's not Bloodborne 2, and I'm still not sure if the RT is an actual requirement or if I can run it on an AMD card. If not, oh well, guess I'm never playing it.

>>545945769
Oh wait, I forgot Heavy Bolt Rifle even existed. Now THAT’S obviously Heavy’s worst weapon.

>>545945792
The hell is with the terminus level HP

>>545945769
I haven't tried the heroic plasma yet but the regular plasma performed significantly worse for me than the multimelta
The heavy bolter mention surprises me as well it's an absolute beast in PvP but I always thought of it as severely underpowered in operations. It has long range and nice sustained damage but the upfront burst damage is low and the ammo consumption rate for each kill is considerably worse than the melta
You seem to have completely different priorities with your weapon selections than I do. I've never been bothered by the range of the multimelta the biggest downside to it is the mediocre boss damage which I can make work although it helps a lot if I have a tactical or a sniper on the team. In every other regard the multimelta is the best heavy weapon in my eyes

>>545947076
Based.
>fuck thropes
This.

>>545947534
It should've let you equip the knife goddamn it.
So gay they wont let you do shit like that.
Like let assault use primaries if he's not using the fist or hammer. Or let sniper use a chainsword if he's not using a primary. Idk.

>>545947670
Nurgle bestows near invulnerability and high HP to his believers.

>>545947681
Regular Plasma is absolutely unmatched at putting groups of 4-5 ranged warriors into execute at once from a distance, something not really any other class can do
And this didn’t devolve into shitflinging so I’ll just agree to disagree with you then
Hopefully I get you on my squad when I’m playing something other than Heavy sometime, most Heavies I run into these days have to be told that sighting in while firing the heavy flamer makes the flame stream longer

>>545715167
This is going to be the plot to SM3, just as was originally planned. Prepare to have a new protagonist chapter as everyone and their wife’s son wants to join up with Master Titus.

>>545889939
I remember it and I complained too. For me, it stemmed from the Autarch being "just" a Terminus in the original lineup posted by that anon, which was retarded considering they're main commander dudes of Eldar forces, so killing them would equivalent of killing Captain Acheran in the campaign. Exarchs as "just" Majoris are dumb too, but I never managed to convince the creator to change it (because in tabletop rules they really ain't shit) - they're one for each shrine for each Craftworld and should at least be Terminus powered-up versions of the Aspect Warriors, but could easily be bosses too, maybe minibosses where you kill a bunch of them in a row before getting to kill an Autarch.
Are they unkillable? Fuck no, nothing is, but it needs to make some sense at the core. Unlike other "enemy" factions Eldar are not unlike Space Marines in being high quality, low quantity. Autarchs being Terminus would be like... Hive Lord appearing as random Terminus enemy in random missions without any unique dialogue either.
Complaining about them being unkillable is not the point, I mean I could easily see the game eventually having us nuke the Hive Fleet in some way, the point is that if you start making the rare enemies very common you'll start powercreeping your roster like crazy.
>>545880128
>>545886114
The most dangerous enemy of them all - a strawman.

>>545954834
There are as many eldar as the plot demands.

I want to make other players' PCs and consoles explode with the power of my mind