I couldn't help but notice that neither /vg/ nor /vm/ had a Borderlands thread. Poast SHiFT names and preferred games/difficulties here and let's see about setting up some sessions.
>MT_Maretrot
>Borderlands 2
>Level 56 on Axton
>UVHM, TVHM also accepted
I'm willing to either start from level 30 or continue my level 56 Axton's playthrough -- currently about to enter the Bloodshots' base to rescue Roland.

>>1452280 (OP)
Nice thread and perfect timing, so I guess I'm going to ask here: my bf and I are trying to play the pre-sequel co-op over emulated LAN, but so far nothing seems to have worked for us all that well.

We've tried:
- hamachi (couldn't even connect to each other)
- radmin VPN (it worked and we could connect to each other, but latency in this dogshit program is way too high for us to have an enjoyable experience and it's not exclusive to borderlands)
- zerotier (I can see his game, but when trying to connect my connection just times out)

So far we've had no issues playing games like Valheim or Baldur's Gate, because we can just directly connect to each other's PC in those games, and the experience in those games is smooth. I guess I'm just wondering if there's a better way to play LAN games over the internet than using LAN emulators. We've tried defined.net, but neither of us is a certified networking specialist and we got filtered by it hard.

>>1452291
Damn dude, that sounds rough. I'm not by any means a certified network specialist either. Is the speed too slow to play online on the same network normally, that you need to emulate LAN to like, send it over one stream? That is a wildly specific issue in any case.

>>1452298
I didn't forget to clear the name field what are you talking about shut up

>>1452298
>>1452299
We actually got zerotier to work just now. Older borderlands games don't work all that well with these newer LAN emulators, so you have to set network adapter priority of whatever LAN emulator you're using manually to 1 in your network settings. So far so good, zerotier seems to run pretty smoothly for both of us. Much better than radmin too. Almost no latency on my end now. Also, it's pretty finicky in Windows 11 so we had to troubleshoot it a bit to get it to work on his end. Playing now.

>>1452339
>Windows 11
Well there's your problem anon, topkek. Unironically you've got malware on your machine sucking up RAM and bandwidth to sell you apps and subscriptions and track your info for further marketing.

Anyway, I'm taking a brief break after saving Roland. My Mechromancer friend went to bed so I'm spinning slots till tomorrow.

Anyone watch the movie?

I literally think I have a new favorite. Fucking loved the black guy in it.

>>1452349
Shush, you.

>>1452280 (OP)
>No, doing other stuff atm I SEE YOU HORSEFUCKER
>BL3 just slightly more for everything but the story, but it crashes my potato even on min settings. BL2 runs smooth like butter and has the better antagonist by far, so it's my fav on a technicality
>idk I think I have a few lvl 50 or 60 mayas, one of them is bugged and has missing lvls due to a rebalance mod from years ago
>can't remember, think my fren and I dropped it in HVHM right when we were gonna fight terrormorbius or whatever

>>1452391
>spoiler
Can a man not like Cruelty Squad and also make a horse related pun? But yes, guilty

>>1452391
>rebalance mod from years ago
Are you talking about the Unofficial Community Patch? I think it still works, though I may be wrong.

>>1454360
Yeah I think that's the one, and last I checked it still worked, but I think I loaded up a save created when it was enabled after I got rid of it, and now that character slot is max lvl, but is missing a few perk points. Oh well.

>>1454589
Oof, sorry to hear. If you've completed UVHM's main questline I think you can start a level 50 character. Same for TVHM at level 30, which is what I'm doing right now on my own Maya.

>>1454590
Wasn't UVHM DLC or something? I don't think I have that, I was never able to make a character above lvl1

>>1455830
It's a new game+ mode, like True Vault Hunter. After fighting Jack, the next mode is unlocked. I don't....think it's DLC? Let me check.
Damn. It is. Not only that but there are two DLCs to max out the level, not including Lilith's Fight for Sanctuary raising the level cap even more.

>just finished Borderlands 1
>revisiting old locations to clean up any missions I've missed
>get stuck on level geometry and exit to main menu
>start game
>game forces me into New Game+
:( I was collecting machine gun parts...

>>1458240
F.
But hey, Borderlands 2 lets you go back and forth between difficulties if you're a completionist like me.

>>1452280 (OP)
MT_Maretrot once again. I took a break from Axton and managed to get Maya all the way from level 30 to 53 since the thread started. At the Bloodshot Ramparts today if anyone's game to join sometime. Might just make my way to max level if nobody takes me up on my offers by the time I beat the main story as Maya.

>>1458240
Feel up to play BL2 today? If so, what's your SHiFT code?

anyone wants to play?

>>1464496
oh, hold up where do I see that

>>1464564
in the main menu, there's a "Social" button and it'll show your SHiFT ID. You can also change it at will. Mine is the OP one, MT_Maretrot. So you could go to the friends menu ingame and input that and find me.

>>1464564
I'll be ingame as soon as I save Roland, won't be more than twenty minutes.

wanna play?

>>1465561
I'll be up for it in about 90 minutes, just gotta level up a bit and then I'll be level 22 like you.

>>1465561
RIP my connection to steam shut off somehow
Hopefully just a second

>>1465903
alright

>>1465911
Feel like continuing today? I'll bring myself closer to your level and we can do whatever you feel like. We could certainly beat the main story without too much difficulty from your level if you left off anytime before Eridium Blight.

Salvador and Zero lobby. Got together for a while, anyone else feel like jumping in?

tell me if you want to continue today

you lads deserve a thread
bump

is OP10 going to be enjoyable if I forgo using legendaries and go for a torgue build on axton

>>1452280 (OP)
i wish it were 2012 again and i was playing borderlands 2 for the first time agian

>>1458240
I'm a month late but feel I should mention this for other people having similar problems. There's a Select Playthrough option visible if you beat Playthrough 1. You have to manually switch to PT1 at the character select menu every time you start the game if you want PT1. You should never be locked out of PT1.

>>1488826
Is that even doable? I thought legendaries became mandatory for OP raids.

>>1494519
idk, why do you think i'm asking?
>raids
i wasn't really planning on doing the dlc ones if im being honest

>>1494632
I meant the Digistruct Peak "raids" not the raid boss fights. I blame Gearbox for overloading the term.

If you're just going to kill normal stuff, maybe it won't be so bad.

anyone want to play?
mySHiFT is ivo147

>>1494659
yeah idk what those are

borderlands, more like BLUNDERLANDS, amirite?

ded

>>1504396
so ded it's gonna make it to the new year

bump, faggots

borderlands 4 introduces the new class, the grease wizard
the first male siren, Randy, sprays sebum through his unique connection to the cosmos
use his unique ability, "I was watching her perform magic" to escape any situation

happy Randsgiving

>>1509490

played maya for like 200 hrs
is axton any fun? gunzerker doesn't appeal to me, and the dlc chars aren't doing it for me either

>>1504396

>>1504396

>>1530918
He makes big booms that annoy my friends and I like that.

life is pain, i hate-

>>1550897
>He makes big booms that annoy my friends
how so

>>1488462

>>1568356
Take the nuke and double turret skill. Throw double nukes in your friend's face blow up their screen. Bonus points if you spec into launchers and grenade damage and spam explosions everywhere.

>can't change the backstory of my Tiny Tina Wonderlands character
>I will forever have a useless +2 Attunement on my Spellshot
How do I cope?

>>1588516
make a new one and mule the equipment over?

bl2 character tierlist?

>>1588604
kek

i haven't played bl3 ever, and was thinking of giving it a go. picked up the ultimate edition years ago for cheap in a bundle or something, but i'm realizing that it doesnt come with the dlc that adds a fourth skill tree. i ain't paying 20 bux for that shit, so can i unlock it with creamapi? are the 4th trees even worth the price / hassle?

>>1602366
salvador is the best at everything, after that it's maya, the rest of the classes excel in some regards and suck at others

9

>>1452280 (OP)
FYI for any fags looking to play this game, and especially with friends : look to rollback the game to 1.8.4 or 1.8.5

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2014284368

it's way, way, way fucking better

>>1620929
I have no desire to use crossplay and I don't mind the hologram being blue
How is this better

>>1627718
.. seriously ? You havn't noticed a difference when the game was updated to 2.0.0 ? Are you brain damaged ?

Coop is going to be WAY smoother ( even win10 / win10 )
like you won't get kicked back to the main menu randomly and have an indefinite loading time, the join though steam is way more reliable, ect, ect .. SHIFT was an absolute plague on this game

basically we rolled back and i've put maybe 300 to 400 hours since, and i havn't had a single issue since when playing coop, compared to before when it was unplayable.

>>1628646
I play bl2 like once a year with a friend or two, so no I didn't notice anything different. we never had any connection issues

>>1620893

>>1628646
When was it updated?

>>1642975
When the last dlc dropped, so just before bl3

>>1620893

>>1452280 (OP)
Borderlands is fun but I feel like after 2 it fell off. I just like it once in a while with friends but it feels weird going back.

>>1660499
this is really all there is to say about the series
its humor is stuck in that early-mid 2010's ironic cringe state, the characters have only gotten worse since 2, and the gunplay alone, which did get better I will admit, cannot and does not carry the series forward

>>1620893

I never realised this until now but playthrough 1 Crawmerax in BL1 has less health than playthrough 2/2.5 Crawmerax.

Playthrough 1, I have to do about 7k damage to blow up a limb.
Playthrough 2, I have to do 6 shots x 3k damage = 18k damage to blow up a limb.
Also sometimes the eye has a sliver of HP left so it's not always one-shot-able. I wonder if it has one-shot protection or actually has slightly more HP. I can't see the damage numbers so I can't say. I should record and verify.

So it's about 2.5x the health for maybe the same quality of lv 69 loot? But I haven't seen a single Eridian weapon drop in PT1 runs so maybe the loot quality changes? Maybe I'm just unlucky. I'm also on Enhanced for the PT1 runs (100%'ing it for the sake of it), and on original for the PT2 runs so Gearbox could've fucked with drop pools between versions. Lootlemon does mention drop differences between versions but not for Eridian drops so maybe not. Who knows, I can't read the game code to check myself.

The lower health in PT1 is hilarious though. You can just legit run in and blast Crawmerax dead in 30 seconds. Can't revive off of him though so you need to not be dying if you don't want to wait for the elevator before looting.

>>1680243
I realise this should've been obvious in hindsight because every enemy is fatter in PT2 but I legit thought Crawmerax had the same HP pool between playthroughs because he was a raid boss since he shows up as lv 61/72 in PT1.

>>1680243
yup. Playthrough 1 Craw has the same, or very similar loot to playthrough 2/2.5 but with a lot less health, so it's better to just farm Craw on playthrough 1.

>>1680481
Wish I never noticed. Now it's going to feel like I'm cheating every time I kill PT1 Craw (assuming it's the same loot pools).

Testing shows that Crawmerax's eyeball has slightly more HP than the other limbs.

thank you for the info vault hunter

borderlands more like blunderlands

>>1452280 (OP)
>think about starting a new bl2 run
>boot it up
>get hit with a EULA from take-two
>decided to postpone run for now
tl;dr this for me; is this something I need to be concerned about?

>>1706382
do as i said earlier in the thread and rollback your version to 1.8.5

>want to do an all-games siren run
>Have to melee the last boss of bl1 cause ran out of ammo
>quit

>>1711704
Should've brought an Equaliser

my interest in starting a new playthrough waxes and wanes like the phases of the moon

I used to get gearbox weapons when creating new characters since I had the GOTY edition, but I just made a new character and didn't get any of them, what gives?

>>1452280 (OP)
>>1719299
To clarify, I have the BL2 Collector's Edition Pack and Ultimate Vault Hunter Upgrade Pack, and everything those packs entail, but these DLCs I've highlighted show that while they're purchased, it's they're not downloaded in-while game, despite them clearly being both downloaded and enabled. I don't have any of the cosmetics or the starter gearbox weapons that are supposed to come with the DLC packs I own, which is very strange considering I used to have both.

I've tried disabling and re-enabling all the DLCs, but that hasn't fixed the issue, and what little info I can find of people having similar issues boils down to:
>"I contacted gearbox support, they said they'd get back to me with a solution"
>*user last seen 7 years ago*
It's not a huge deal I guess, since I'm only missing out on some lvl 1 weapons, that busted overpowered fireworks grenade, and the relic that gives you something like 6% more xp, but I did pay for these things and they don't work any longer. I haven't gotten to the Wildlife Exploitation Preserve, so I can't comment on if I'm locked out of the Creature Slaughter Dome, but I'd be surprised if I wasn't.

Any solutions would be appreciated.

>>1720065
>it says they're not downloaded while in-game*
I promise I'm not having a stroke

>>1720065
>can't get the busted fireworks grenade anymore
Oh no, that's actually a big downer.

>>1720065
Best idea i have is just to nuke everything in your folder and to download everything again

Maybe to the rollback i pointed out earlier in the thread if that doesn't work out too !
And the relic isn't more xp, it's a higher chance for blues

>>1720065
I'm sure there are newly introduced issues.

On my BL1 Enhanced, a little after January, I started getting a "The save file is non-writeable" error when I launch it on one computer but not others even though I never fucked with permissions. I'm going to stop playing it once I get bored of farming Crawmerax so I don't care too much but it's annoying.

>>1720070
>>1720413
>>1720420
>>1720484
>Had an ISP outage
>Tried booting the game to play in offline mode
>Load in on Sal
>"Congratulations you have the creature slaughterdome and all this preorder shit yada yada"
>Being offline somehow fixed it
>It's replicatable
>All I have to do now is yank my LAN cable before creating a new character/loading into an old character to enable the DLCs
Fucking grease wizard randy and his SHiFT cancer was probably responsible

Just got to sawtooth cauldron and all my motivation up and vanished like a fart in the wind. It happens every time.

On a semi-related note, do you guys know of any minor shortcuts and/or sequence breaks that don't require you to grenade jump and clip outside of level geometry? I could have sworn there was a way to hop over hammerlock's electrified fence at the beginning of the game in liar's berg so that you could get to the working vending machine back there a minute or two early, before hammerlock spouts exposition. I could just be thinking of jumping over the first gate, where you'd normally have to wait for craptrap to finish screaming about protecting him from flynt's crew and bullymongs before he decides to open it. I think I saw it in a gameplay commentary a couple years ago, but other than that I can't recall anything about it.

I also tried traveling backwards through the highlands when Sanctuary first teleports away and you have no waypoint to it, by going to
>the dust
>highlands
>water treatment plant (requires a grenade jump to get through the shipping container opening)
>the fridge
but that door Angel needs to open with fire is blocked from the back side by ice, so my entire journey was without purpose

>>1724019
My motivation usually dries up after I beat Captain Flynt because the work involved getting a new character into Sanctuary is so much slog. Get to Sanctuary, get told no, walk across the wasteland to the other side of the map, do a couple more back and forths, then FINALLY be allowed into the city so I can watch 20 character intro cutscenes before I can access the bank for a bank alt. I never finished TPS because of the fucking back and forth slog. After I got to the main city, the next mission sent me out into yet another empty wasteland and I got sick and tired of it. I didn't play BL3 but I bet it has the same design issues where you have to spend like 10+ hours of slogging through empty wastelands before you get to go to the city. They never learn.

Giving you the option to skip to Sanctuary on new characters is probably the only good thing Gearbox did for BL2 in the past 10+ years.

>>1724643
>walk across the wasteland to the other side of the map
you are aware that there is a car, yes?

>>1723410
What the fuck did i tell you to do ? Rolling back deletes that SHIFT garbage

>>1724866
Doesn't make it less of a slog. It's a fuckhuge map that's designed to take tons of time to traverse in a car.

And that's just the first trip to Sanctuary. After the orbital bombardment, you have to walk on foot through like 5 maps to get to Sanctuary again. It is fucking awful.

>>1724936
holy fucking filtered lmao, if 2 mins top of driving annoys you, you are really fucking done for life man

>>1724924
far too lazy

>>1724966
All right i get it.

>>1724949
t. Randy

Your level designs are shit.

>>1725238
Nah I agree, if you're getting filtered by the start of BL2, you are probably a brainrotted zoomer. It takes around an hour playing casually and completing a sidequest or two, but probably closer to 30 min if you know what you're doing.

>spec'd into nuclear turret to farm the bee shield from HH since the splash dmg can aggro him through walls, letting you skip the slow elevator ride
>learn I could've just been using longbow singularity grenades instead of fucking up my build

>>1724936
I recommend downloading Cheat Engine (without malware) and using a speedhack on a hotkey

>cheating instead of playing the videogame
>not even to bypass grind, but to bypass progression
>will gladly grind in a gacha game though for a waifu .jpg

Idk what I'm doing, is this a shit endgame build to shoot for? I don't have the UVHM upgrade or fight for sanctuary, so my max lvl is 61
https://bl2skills.com/commando.html#55105130515500414015005000000000

>>1727685
I don't play Commando, but from my personal preferences, I would say I would rather have:
>1 point in Willing instead of Laser Sight
>5 points in Metal Storm instead of Expertise
Last one might be optional if you're building for raid bosses but ehhhhhh you're not doing much at lv 61.
ARs were always trash in BL2 IMO so no point building for ARs so I guess that's the best you can do with lv 61.

I can't remember if the nuke turret's damage counted as grenade or rocket launcher damage (or explosive). Seems weird to not have it but again, can't blame you for lack of skill points.

>>1727685
Here is my advice as a smelly tryhard with too much hours in this game : it depends on what class mod you take

the best one for axton is the soldier imo, just a lot of gun damage for free

if you go for that class mod, use this build:
https://bl2skills.com/commando.html#55055104015005512010005050100000
and put a point into expertise
dere you go

>>1727953
from what I read, nuke turret damage does not scale well at all into UVHM, so it seemed like a complete meme

I've been enjoying the torgue rifles, but yeah I can see how they wouldn't be the best. Had to ditch them for a corrosive bandit shotgun to even kill the bunk3r in a reasonable amount of time on normal mode, just because hitting crits with them on a moving target was super aids

i had the one point in laser sight so i could immediately see what my sentry was aiming at, but you're probably right about putting it in willing. i just avoided all the shield regen skills because they had anti-synergy with crisis management, and i was thinking about using a rough rider
>>1728012
thanks; getting that specific class mod is gonna be a pain in the ass, but i imagine the terramorphus would be a good budget one in the meantime, since it's basically the same sans one survival skill unit

>>1727953
oh also I had the points in expertise so I could do the memeswap with flakker and a strong rocket launcher like the nukem if I find myself lacking dmg on a boss

>>1728157
>>1728165
Well, you clearly picked out the build through trial and error so that's more thought put in than me since I don't play Commando. Hope it works out for you.

Lv 61 UVHM isn't that hard compared to lv 50 TVHM IMO so you should be fine. I was breezing through lv 72 shit with lv 50 guns + slag on my first try so you shouldn't worry too much about it. Only raid bosses will probably give you trouble.

>Torgue rifles
Yeah those shits are amazing for early game when you have tons of mobs but in boss fights they suffer from the same problems as rocket launchers where they're too slow, and you are trying to kill bullet sponges with burst damage balanced for mobs.

>>1728186
*as rocket launchers in general

Correcting myself before somebody yells at me for not mentioning that the Norfleet is giga OP. That thing's an exception, not the norm.

>>1728186
>>1728192
>rawket lawnchairs = poop, except for the norfleet
noted
are there any serviceable ones that are more easily farmed? i see people like the badaboom and mongol, but then i also see that stuff like the hive and the nukem being a pain in the ass to get to drop. i also hear good things about e-tech vladoff RLs called "topneas", but i imagine i can go fuck myself getting one of those randomly. what i'd like is a RL that has like, increased dmg and projectile speed but low/no splash, like the fastball

man this grenade jump to skip the badass loader door in the wildlife preserve right before the loot midget room is like frame perfect

>>1728238
Rocket launchers aren't bad when you use them for most of the mobs. It's just for fat bosses that they'll be useless. Norfleet's just super special and in a dimension by itself.

For bosses, you need lots of damage and lots of bullets and the ability to sustain both + yourself which is why RLs don't work unless you go all-in on specific meme builds. But at lv 61 you shouldn't worry about it too much. Try out the shit you find on the ground, try out different ones.

>>1728715
>It's just for fat bosses that they'll be useless
Yeah that's pretty much what I meant
OP levels are a separate DLC thing right, they're not basegame?

>see advice to postpone accepting sidequests until the end of an NG cycle so that the quest XP and reward will scale with you to your level
>try to do this, but notice some discrepancies
>most quests don't seem to scale
>others seemed to be stuck at the level I discovered, but did not accept them
>others still, like the Uncle Teddy mission, was lvl 30 on one character and gave me a lvl 30 lady fist as a reward, while on my 2nd character it was stuck at lvl 28 with a reward of a lvl 28 lady fist, despite me entering the area at lvl 30
I know that I probably shouldn't really be bothering to try and do this on normal, but for future reference, was this advice meant for UHVM exclusively, where the enemies scale with you?

>farming the warrior for eridium
>only thing near as fast as flakkerbugging it is just using a bee shield with a jakobs sniper
>my build has almost no contribution towards this latter strategy
axton bros, I don't feel so good...

>>1729732
Yes.

Quest and reward levels are hard set before UVHM.

>>1729985
technically speaking they have a set range depending on what level you are when you first enter the map they're housed in
for example, being lvl 9 when entering 3-horns guarantees a lvl 10 savage lee, and being lvl 11 guarantees the maximum scaling for frostburn canyon
this sort of thing continues for the rest of the game, with i think lvl 18 being the cap for highlands, plus some other areas i'm forgetting

>>1728157
nah, the SOT isn't all that great.

Maybe get a heavy gunner.
Yeah, getting one is a pain in the ass, but play enough and you'll find one eventually.

>>1729985
Because of the way quests works in uvhm, you can techically be too early level for quests

>>1729732
quest xp, expect for main quest xp, suck balls. Just do them when you get them.

>>1730124
>quest xp, expect for main quest xp, suck balls. Just do them when you get them.
the idea was less to save them for xp and more to save the rewards so that they were on-level, as many quest rewards are good if not great, but quickly get outscaled at low levels

>>1730124
>nah, the SOT isn't all that great.
Would it not be? Doesn't Axton have a bunch of good tier-1 skills?
>+5 turret burst size and duration
>+5 reload speed
>+5 gun damage
>+5 wep swap speed & ADS speed
>+5 HP%

>Maybe get a heavy gunner
I remember I used the one that gave me more Impact & Steady back in the day until I was able to get a legendary class mod. I think it was called Grenade Pro or something like that.

>>1731306
It's +4, not +5, and half the reason why the soldier is decent is because of the base stats

And you were using an impact grenadier or an expert grenadier (very good class mod too)

>>1731409
>It's +4, not +5
Ah my bad
>half the reason why the soldier is decent is because of the base stats
Well yes, but until one gets lucky and has that class mod drop, would the Slayer mod truly be *thaaat* bad?
It's an easy farm: you just stand in the weird spot, throw a couple slag bouncing betty grenades, and shoot the worm's eyes with a hellfire/good touch

>>1731648
i mean i guess in op0 sure why not

anyone have a good resource of borderlands knowledge that isn't locked behind discord, and isn't the wiki, because the former is gay and the latter is lacking in accurate info & is also kinda shit in general

>>1735583
yeah, it's called "me"

why, what do you want to know ?

TBF a lot of the amazing info has died when gearbox suddenly killed off the forums out of nowhere

>>1735666
>yeah, it's called "me"
yeah ok satan
I have questions like
>what is the % increase in droprate of legendaries in TVHM & UVHM vs normal mode?
>is there a compendium of timesaves and skips outside of speedrunner communities
simple shit like skips and grenade jumps, like getting over flynt's gate before it opens, grenade jumping off one of the tents to skip half the run up to the boss while snagging a chest, the skip up to the red chest at the start of frostburn canyon, etc.

>>1735722
>droprate
https://www.lootlemon.com/

>skips
not really, since each classes has skips some can't or can't do, what version of the game you are playing ... it really depends, pretty sure you have to slog though speedrun shit in order to do that.

>>1735722
>what is the % increase in droprate of legendaries in TVHM & UVHM vs normal mode?
IIRC the drop rates are the same.

>>1736119
Lootlemon is so unhelpful IMO. They don't explain how loot pools work, don't give you world drop rates, no documentation on the drop rate formulas for the changing drop rates on chests, etc. Just a random flat number you have to take at face value. It's like, 10% useful so it's better than nothing but man, it's so frustrating to use.

And the Gearbox forum posts with all the archives are dead so you can't google that shit anymore, and the existing "archives" only take the few first pages of each thread so all the useful late information is gone too.

>>1736235
>They don't explain how loot pools work, don't give you world drop rates, no documentation on the drop rate formulas for the changing drop rates on chests, etc

That is because every single drop source has a different set of spanwable items, so they have effectively a different chance to drop a launcher from a shield for example. It'd be a complete and absolute mess to record everything than can be world dropped from each source, and useless, since literately no one farms world drops.

>>1736441
It's just a basic database dump, bro.

>>1736591
what is ? lootlemon ? i mean, sure, but it's a well documented one

>>1736862
more like 10% of a well documented one

>>1736119
>>1736235
I keep seeing (reputable) people saying that the droprates of legendaries are increased in TVHM & UVHM from NVHM, but lootlemon does not specify.

Each class has the same skips apart from Sal and Krieg, because Sal can double grenade and double rocket jump, and Krieg weighs more than anyone else. I just wanted to know a few easy universal ones that work on the current patch without slogging through discords...

Thanks anyways guys.

>throw deliverance
>swap weapons
>gun stops shooting
>ok
>throw deliverance
>switch to a weapon with the same pellet count and element
>airborne deliverance keeps shooting and inherits the dmg per pellet of the gun you're now holding
>wha-
>throw incendiary deliverance
>swap to incendiary badaboom
>each pellet from the flying homing automatic shotgun does rocket launcher damage
this game is such a clown show, I love it

I almost 100% bl1 on a random burst of energy and now I want to do the same for bl2, but dear god have I restarted this game so, so many times, and only gaige is any fun. I love turrets but it's just inferior to a fucking robot.

>>1738298
they both shit in uvhm

>>1738318
Gaige is great, what are you talking about.

>>1738819
>turrets
>robot
they dont scale well and they both die really fast
gaige is stuck going anarchy every time if you wanna do any dmg

I have been declining the TOS every time I open BL2, but recently my game hung on the opening logo and when I force closed the application and reopened, it brought me to the main menu in online mode (implying it has forcibly accepted the TOS). Anyone else preparing their class action lawsuit? I will not be downgrading because I am lazy btw. Thank you for reading my blog.

I was getting the itch to play these games again right before I learned about the new shitty TOS shit. I genuinely don't get how a company could be so shameless in 2025, especially since Borderlands 4 is supposed to be releasing later this year(?).

>>1740168
>>1740608
yeah it's a shitty thing to do, but it's not gonna keep me from playing the game. realistically speaking, what's actually gonna happen from me accepting that's going to affect me negatively? yeah it's a defeatist attitude, and no i dont want them pushing new TOS bullshit, but it's honestly just a boilerplate EULA they slapped on every game under gearbox since they acquired gearbox, probably just for legal reasons.
i doubt anything malicious is gonna come of it, shit i doubt they're even bothering to collect info desu

>>1740812
Real talk, it is the EULA that lets them scan your passwords and shit and download them off your computer, and also run spyware if they feel like it. So if you do care about that shit, it's a real concern.

BUT
Skipping the TOS is probably not going to stop them from running that shit because it probably runs under the assumption that you can only run it by accepting, so short of reverting to an older version like the other Anon keeps yelling at people to do, you are probably having your shit scanned regularly by running the latest versions. This is kind of why my gaming machine is basically an isolated machine that that doesn't have anything personal on it anymore. Can't trust any games these days.

>>1740843
hm... maybe I will bother to downgrade after all...
I assume doing so doesn't affect any dlc ownership, or saves?

>>1740881
At this point, only thing that matters is saving your save files somewhere so they don't get lost or modified.

>Users must resolve disputes through individual arbitration, waiving any class action
>Take-Two reserves the right to use user-created content without compensation
>Virtual items acquired in-game are considered temporary licenses, not user property, allowing Take-Two to modify or remove them at any time
This also explains the DLC fuckery people have been getting.

Alright, I rolled back to 1.85, everything seems to be nominal. Not noticing much of a performance difference at all... how do I check what version of the game I'm running, just to make sure I did it right?

>>1738298
>>1738819
Just started a Gaige playthru, she really does have a fun personality

>>1740889
>>1740961
Nevermind, found out you can check version # in the matchmaking UI

Unrelated, but which of these Frems do you guys think is better?

The lvl 9 has higher stats except dmg, the stability prefix, and does neutral dmg
vs
The lvl 10 has higher dmg, the extra crit dmg prefix, but does incendiary
>it doesn't matter you're in normal mode
Humor me

>>1741094
Fire is OP early game so I'd go with the incendiary on principle.
Normally I'd give preference to fire rate and mag size otherwise.

I kinda want to try out a tediore playthrough because I've always avoided the manufacturer, but throwing them at enemies is awkward and it seems like it'd be a gigantic ammo hog if I'm not throwing empty guns at them (which does less dmg than throwing a scathing remark).
My gut says axton would be the character to do it on because of all the gun and grenade dmg bonuses, which the tediore explosions benefit from, but my brain is telling me salvador might be better due to the passive ammo regen during gunzerking.

Any ideas? Also, I keep noticing that no matter how many different types of guns I'm using, whether it be pistols or shotguns or smgs, and the state of their ammo pools notwithstanding, that ammo crates always seem to be stocked with the ammo that I *don't* need, which makes me hesitant to try out a playthrough where all I'll be using are pistols, smgs, and shotguns.

P.S. Generally speaking, how does tediore explosion damage scale per magazine? Is it based on how full the magazine is percentage-wise, or is it based on the number of bullets in said mag? For example, is it like:
>10 bullets to a pistol mag
>shoot one, 9 left, throw
>get 90% (or 100%, or whatever the top value is) of the damage on the explosion
or is it like
>10 bullets to a pistol mag
>100% dmg when thrown
>different pistol has 20 bullets to a mag
>200% dmg when thrown

>>1744473
>that ammo crates always seem to be stocked with the ammo that I *don't* need
This is actually a thing. Ammo drop distribution isn't evenly spread, or constant, they generally avoid giving you ammo of a type you would need until you are near-zero levels of low ammo. And this shit's been around since BL1.

>how does tediore explosion damage scale per magazine?
Here's a random Demonite doc I found as the first Google result that should answer most of your questions: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1G9IEIklBzVE3an6lananR6eDPOrwvCiE4KVfo2BtjfE/edit?tab=t.0

IIRC, given my time playing Doppelganger Jack, the answer was "number of bullets left in mag" so this tracks.

So if you were playing Axton, you would probably want Tediore ARs but those don't exist so your next best bet would be high mag SMGs or whatever since it looks like he has a generic(?) +mag size skill in the blue tree. If it's not generic, then I guess you can't use Axton. I looked through the class mod list and there isn't one with ammo regen listed like BL1 class mods so no dice there. Same for Relics. So Salvador's going to be your solution for the ammo problem but you won't get much for reload memes.

I'm also scrolling through Lootlemon's weapon list and it seems like they give you damage formulas on each gun's info page so that is probably more up-to-date if there's a conflict with the doc.

>>1744595
Ahh, I see that the Hoarder class mod for Salvador gives you Team Ammo Regen so if you could get a friend or ammo slave (or three) sitting afk in your lobby, you can make it work with Axton :^)))))

>>1740961
there is no framerate difference, but you'll notice one for logging speed, but related to SHI(T)FT, coop play ... ect

>that ammo crates always seem to be stocked with the ammo that I *don't* need
it's a fallacy, the spread is perfectly normal until you need ammo and you'll get it in droves

>>1744473
Axton or krieg, yeah. Salavador tediore is awfully boring.
It's scenario B, more ammo in the mag = more damage
the guns that work well for tediore throw is pisol + smg etech, baby maker, gunarang (if you feel like using it lol) etech launcher
i once brought a tediore alliegence axton ( so no class mods ) all the way up to old op 6 and just gave up lol, it stopped being fun
the good class mods are the veteran and the grenadeer
On krieg, i recommend javlin krieg, it's pretty farm heavy and i woudn't recommend it for just a normal difficulty playthough

and of course the fastball, a tediore playthough is 75% fastball throwing

>>1744626
>it's a fallacy, the spread is perfectly normal until you need ammo and you'll get it in droves
This had not been my experience and >>1744595 corroborates it. I've been dry on pistol and AR ammo before and I'll have to go through half a dozen ammo crates before I see anything other than smg ammo, shotgun shells, sniper ammo, and grenades

>>1744642
couple years ago someone even worked the math out because of sniper zero

it's just your brain remembering the bad moments and not remembering how every other enemy dropped the ammunition type you need

>t. over 3k hours on bl2

>>1744697
https://www.gearboxsoftware.com/2013/09/inside-the-box-the-borderlands-2-loot-system/

>These are the “need” and “emergency” item pools for ammo. These pools, if they are chosen, have a bit more logic that occurs before the items are dropped. Specifically, the game checks to see if you need the item chosen before dropping it. The rules for allowing the drop are based on how much ammo you have. If you are low you will probably get the “need” but not “emergency” ammo. If you are super low you will probably get two extra ammo drops, one from each of these pools.

I'm sorry but you're plain wrong. It isn't bias. It is an official mechanic.

>>1744998
you ... do realise that's exactly what i'm saying ?

Is my game bugged or is it normal that the brand of scope doesn't match the in-scope crosshair? I'm using a hyperion sniper with a vladof scope, but the in-scope crosshair isn't vladof

>>1745516
Post gun.

>>1745516
yeah that's normal

>fire up BL2 because the thread gives me the itch
>see LAN game option in multiplayer options because of the shift bullshit telling me to change settings
Wait...can I play with myself with one Steam account like you do in BL1? Has this always been a thing?

>>1746511
if the shift shit annoys you like kicking you back to the menu or taking infinite time to load at the game loading screen, or the ads :

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2014284368

>tector hodunk's level 20
>I farm him for a slagga
>he keeps dropping them at level 17
I'm gonna have to settle for this level 19 one with a bandit grip and dmg prefix aren't I

>>1746604
Don't worry about it too much. You're gonna find new and better guns in like an hour.

Found these two switches in The Fridge, and they seem to be connected by a wire. Are they just set dressing, or do they do something and I haven't found the associated quest yet?
I've already completed the laney white, shorty, and smash head quests down here, and found rakkman.

>>1746610
Idk anon, the slagga's kind of goated, even into TVHM just for its ability to apply slag like no other

>>1746637
IIRC the switches opened the path to the Rakkman or something. I remember having to shoot one because they were unreachable on foot so you probably accidentally hit them with damage and opened them up.

>>1746729
>you probably accidentally hit them with damage and opened them up
That'd actually be really funny considering I'm running gaige at the moment. I wouldn't be too surprised if the switches count as enemies since they have hp bars, and some of my ricochets 'targeted' them

>killed laney white enough times to level up twice
>still no gub
gee lootlemon this sure doesn't feel like a 10% drop

>tfw been a borderlands enjoyer since BL1 release and none of my friends are
I just want to shoot and see numbers bros and psychos are literally me...

I want to play bl2 with my friends, but I also love to grind out optimal shit and farm and that kills playthroughs because I'll farm some stuff overnight and then next day I'll be 5 levels higher than them...

>>1748227
Just save edit your level back, duh

>>1748936
much too lazy to grab a save editor

>>1748947
>spends hours farming
>too lazy to spend 2 minutes to drag a file onto a window and change a number

>>1749232
>how dare these people don't want to automatically use cheat tools for the slightest inconveniences!!

What build spends the least amount of time in ffyl? Unironically the worst part of solo play.

>>1749382
any build with a rocket launcher? axton, once you get the ability to throw grenades in FFYL? gaige, because her minion can get a kill which will revive you? idk

>>1749475
>idk
Thanks for your input

>>1749382
The question shouldn't be about how you get out of FFYL the fastest but how you stay out of it by not dying in the first place. And usually that means you need either huge damage, huge health and/or shield regen to abuse health gating mechanics, or both.

Salvador is the tankiest Vault Hunter, probably. Outside of raid bosses, he'd probably be the hardest to kill.

IMO I like Gaige because when the robot starts regen'ing your shields, you basically have several seconds of FREE amp damage with the Bee Shield so you can clear rooms easily. This is probably a biased opinion because I'm a Gaige main. She's also got some health regen but nothing that matters when you're getting gunned down.

I want to say Krieg and Axton and Maya might be tanky in their own way like Gaige but I never played them so I can't say.

>>1749523
>reading comp
put a rocket launcher on any character and you have a way to instantly get out of FFYL

>>1749544
>>1749721
my question was intended as "builds that almost never enter ffyl". Rocket launchering the ground when squishy mobs are nearby is a no-brainer. The fact that you can't get back up if you only have a boss or tanky mob hiding behind a wall is the problem. I'm getting bored with Hellfire Krieg (and unexcited to take my freshly 30 Gaige into TVHM) because a character that could once dance around the battlefield leeching and tanking is reduced to sniper-peeking from outside the encounter. I'm sure you'll tell me that that's just BL2 until you get broken gear, but i'm just trying to see if there's any opinions on what builds get downed the least.

>>1749765
In that case, I'd perhaps try out melee Zer0. He's squishier than Krieg and gets thrown around a little more because he doesn't have Krieg's innate knockback resistance, but he does have a panic button in the form of the hologram, and the cooldown is very quick at I believe 15 seconds. You can of course extend this with the right amount of skills, etc. He's also the designated sniper character, so you will be doing a bit of that plinking you might've implied you didn't like, but he's also a boss melter by the same margin.

>tl;dr Zer0 has a get out of jail free card ability and he's got a pretty decent melee build if you don't like sniping

----------

Salvador is just busted broken and able to kill everything by looking at it once you get to a certain point, so maybe you'll find him more enjoyable. The long and short of it is that your lefthand weapon (for the most part) inherits the passive bonuses of your righthand weapon. So for example, sniper rifles have a high crit bonus compared to anything else, I think at 200%(?), so you can mainhand a sniper rifle and offhand a hyperion shotgun, and start doing crazy damage to bosses. It gets even stronger when you replace the sniper rifle with the lady fist. You can do something similar with a rocket launcher in your right hand and a flakker in your left, where the secondary explosions inherit the rocket launcher's damage. This isn't even getting into money shot chaining or the orphan maker deputy build.

He's also the most mobile character once you get into TVHM and UHVM, because you can dual wield two low level badabooms and rocket jump around the map, which also gives him a bunch of map skips unavailable to anyone else. He's got a skill that throws two grenades at once as well, which will again open up more grenade jump skips, and can be combined with badaboom rocket jumping.

>tl;dr Salvador is broken

>>1749833
>your lefthand weapon inherits the passive bonuses of your righthand weapon
>rocket jump around the map
>>tl;dr Salvador is broken
Jesus christ... why did they have to make him a spic midget of all things with that kit...

>try out melee Zer0
This was on my list. Zer0 was the character I gravitated towards on launch playing with my friends. On normal mode with other players taking aggro I didn't notice the value of his action skill much I think, but the Many Must Fall shit looks enticing especially if the cooldown is that quick anyway. Thanks for the input then.

>>1750017
>he doesn't like screaming ANDALE ANDALE while rocket jumping around with infinite ammo
Why do you hate fun?

>>1750017
>why did they have to make him a spic midget
here's a secret... they're all RPG classes. Axton is your basic fighter, Maya is your wizard, Sal's your dwarven slayer/berserker (he's even got the mohawk), and Zer0's your rogue. Krieg's your barbarian and Gaige's your summoner/necromancer.

>>1750027
only latin females exist
>>1750051
Yes, that's true.

>>1452280 (OP)
Without looking it up, try to name every intro and outro song to the borderlands games. You can verify the name of it if you can recall the actual song, i.e. what it sounds like and you know some of the lyrics, but no looking anything else up. I for the life of me cannot remember what the OP was for BL3.

>>1750870
I don't think I've ever seen the title for OP songs listed so I never learned them.

I guess BL1 or BL2 is "Ain't No Time For A Hero", don't remember which.

How do i get past my 'tism and play Borderlands 2 after i noticed how toned down the dismemberment is compared to 1?

>>1752050
With explosives an high powered sniper rifle there's plenty of it

>>1752058
>shoot someone with a shotgun point blank
>bit of phsyX blood and nothing else
that's worse than i remembered, holy shit

>>1752192
pls understand, consoles can't handle the load

>>1752050
play axton and only use torgue/tediore weapons

>>1752225
>got a crit with a shotgun
>blew a leg off a psycho
this is so dumb, no one bothered to make a " always dismember on kill" mod after all this time? It makes gun feels extremely weak, even grenades are affected by this

>>1752953
>critting, without hitting the head
Huh?

>>1752975
I sold the shotgun i was using but i'm pretty sure one of the bullet got the head
I guess the trigger is doing more damage than the remaining health?

So I've installed the UCP to play with a friend, and it's cool and all, but I've had issues with it in the past with it fucking up old saves. I've backed up all my saves prior to installing it as a precaution, but is there a way to just play vanilla without needing to uninstall the whole thing? Like, do I just not slap "exec patch.txt" into the console, and I'm good?

>try 3
>shit and stutter itself nonstop
Is there a fix for this or i should do the smart thing and stick to 1-2

>>1761895
Try -NOTEXTURESTREAMING
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Borderlands_3#cite_ref-38
I'm on 4070 and with it from the start I've noticed no stuttering at all

>just killed wilhelm in TVHM
>axton is already feeling like shit
aaaarrrgggggggggghhhhh

>>1763067
Are you still using ARs?

>>1764688
trying to stick to tediore stuff when I can since the explosions scale with grenade dmg bonuses, everything's just so spongy and I can't find any good elemental weapons that are on-level. kinda relying on a super underleveled slag bouncing betty too.
also my friend is dumb and keeps saying that there are no enemies that are immune to slag, and that just because they're not purple when shooting them with slag doesnt mean they arent getting slagged, but i'm 99.99% sure saturn is immune, vehicles are immune (but not the pilots), constructors are immune, as are most bosses like the warrior and bnk3r

>>1764967
I know Saturn is 100% immune to slag, you are right about that. Can't recall if those other bosses you mentioned are immune though.

Axton goes better with Torgue weapons than Tediore weapons because their explosive effect also scales with the grenade damage buffs Axton gets. Get an Unkempt Harold or an Ogre or a Torgue shotgun that's close to your level and use that instead. Various other weapons also deal grenade damage from some reason as well, like e-tech SMGs.

>>1764967
yeah axton tediore throw is not great

go get the fastball

>>1765898
I don't think I've ever seen the Warrior or Bunker turn purple so they're probably immune to being slagged.

>>1765898
Alr, I'll see about bothering my friend to see if we can do the Torgue DLC, or I'll just keep my eye out for a good Hulk or Ravager. What are the best Torgue Rifles/Pistols in your guys' opinion? Can't really farm for a Harold cuz I'm duoing with a friend and I don't want to get ahead on XP, and he doesn't really wanna farm before UVHM.
>>1765908
I'd get the Fastball, but see above that I can't really farm it without getting ahead.

Also, unrelated to anything else, but is there like a chart or a spreadsheet that lists the level range an area can scale to in NVHM and TVHM? The wiki doesn't say. For example, you should be level 9 before entering Three Horns Divide so that the area scales to level 11, level 13 before Frostburn Canyon, level 15 before Bloodshot Stronghold, etc. so that those areas hit their max level cap and you're not getting underleveled loot. I'm got it pretty much down for NVHM, now it's just TVHM I'm uninformed on. I remember reading somewhere that you should be like level 38 before even starting TVHM because that's the max level that Three Horns Divide will scale to.

>>1766070
If you do all 4 DLCs and their sidequests in Normal then you should just hit lv 40-ish anyway.

>>1766070
There's this list I ripped off an archive of the gearbox forums, which seems like the best thing we're gonna get, outside of asking in a one-life bl2 speedrunner discord.

>>1766070
>be playing earlier today
>decide to drop my self-imposed tediore-centric rule and start using torgue
>open a dumpster
>loot midget claps me
>clap him back
>drops an on-level baby-maker with basically perfect parts
is it a sign?

>>1766070
>What are the best Torgue Rifles/Pistols in your guys' opinion?
Anything with a matching grip. Vladof barrels are good for the RoF increase.

borderlands 2 is my favorite game ofall time. whenever i feel sad i know playing a littl ebit with help me feel better

>>1766070
Unkempt Harold with the x2 accessory is the #1 pistol by far. Once you roll a good one for your level from the vending machines, you can plow through so much shit even without a Bee shield.

maya hips

brain rot

>>1778361
books dont have hips

Is there a good BL3 mod that adjusts the difficulty to be a bit harder and not drop legendaries all the time. I see stuff like Balands and Redux but as someone who is more just concerned with the surface level end result, their patch notes aren't easy to parse, and the videos I've tried to watch on them so far are poorly constructed and commentated.

>>1784087
is there not an Unofficial Community Patch for BL3?

>>1783197
:(

>>1784419
Allegedly, UCP for BL3 is much more of a straightforward community patch

>playing w/ a couple friends
>one is brand new to the series, and is more a friend of a friend
>one is a neet, and how i know the new guy
>neet is saying to skip every sidequest until uvhm and over-explains things in ways that are clearly overwhelming to new guy
>will argue with me about inane stuff like which type of shield is best, or when i try to answer new guy's question in a concise manner
>example: new guy is playing siren, and asks what type of guns he should look out for. i suggest smgs should be his primary (but not only) focus since maya has good synergy with them and her skill tree reflects that. neet says, "uh well ackshully she can use anything and she's really good with snipers because she can hold things still, but she's also good with ...", to the point where the guy's question isn't answered at all
>neet does not think this is the case or that he's even incorrect after i bring it up afterwords
>i suggest to let new guy play at his own pace and try things out for himself
>he's kind of receptive, but it mostly translates to, "ok everyone be quiet the audio log is playing"
>we have to sit there in uncomfortable silence for the whole thing until it's over without progressing the quest any further, like when you go over to your aunt's as a kid and her cooking sucks, but nobody is allowed to bring it up and everyone has to pretend it's fine, and then your parents insist you all stick around for dessert
>new guy is clearly getting burnt out and slowly becomes less and less available to continue over the next few days
>"we just need to get him hooked bro he's getting bored because we have to keep explaining everything to him"
>clueless

>>1803304
Might have to fire the neet.

bump
anyone else getting the long captchas now btw?

>offer to power level some friends from lv 50 to lv 80 at Pyro Pete's Bar
>should be quick, right?
>finally get a time where we're all on at the same time
>they only get like 20k exp per run + 13k from the quest
>we need about 10 mil exp so that's like 330 runs
>try Pyro Pete hoping he gives shittons of exp like Crawmerax does in BL1
>only 9k a pop
>give up
Damn, seems like this is why I never grinded past lv 73. This shit is gonna take forever.

Guess I'm just power-leveling my own characters if I ever get around to it.

>>1810511
Not me.

>>1810815
why go straight to 80 tho
isn't the fun part of the game the journey, not melting raid bosses with a completely leveled build?

>>1810820
I didn't beat the raid bosses even back during the lv 72 days and I never reached OP8 so it's not like I'm melting anything myself. The "journey" would've been doing the lv 80 playthrough + the OP1-OP10 raid gauntlets. Still had a million playthroughs left so might as well clear the grind since they already did the first two playthroughs normally. At least, that was the idea.

They said they're fine with doing a lv 50 UVHM run so I just hopped back onto my lv 50 Maya.

bl4 interview with the creative director on a casting couch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJf8653mDPY

its a pretty good watch

>>1814708
it looks so generic

>>1814774
I really dislike the UI cause it looks so sterile compared to previous games, the rest of the game seems promising though.

oh wait theres also the fact that the recommended specs look fucking insane. i feel like people are overlooking that, especially for a cel-shaded game. like imagine someone building an expensive rig JUST for borderlands 4, i cant imagine that.

>>1814844
it barely looks cel shaded anymore too
wasn't borderlands not even truly cel shaded this entire time, people have just been misusing the term so long that it stuck?

>>1814888
either way this is fucking insane, i have 32gb of ram but i only have a 3060. looks like im gonna be dick riding frame gen for another video game

bl4 gameplay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrC081c9MJY

>>1814902
unfortunate

>>1814902
I remember when I could play any game comfortably on my 1060, even if it was on low settings

>>1814913
>Zane is our new weapon salesman
based

>BL4 isn't going to have a minimap
>going back to the days of BL1 with the skyrim compass
It's over.

>>1818989
they added a combat radar after the feedback apparently, which is fine i guess

>>1819323
That's not good enough though.

Wow, accidentally got myself blown up while shooting Drifters, and had to fight one on foot and it died in a couple crit shots. I didn't realise they were this easy to kill on foot. I swear they were super tanky so I've always been shooting them with the Monster homing rockets and hated how long it took to kill one Drifter.

This suddenly explains how so many people on the internet were claiming to "farm" untold numbers of Drifters to get pearlescents in BL1. I always wondered if they were just lucky or full of shit because it took so long to kill one with the Monster.

I take it back. Fighting Drifters on foot fucking sucks. They keep turning their butts away from me so i can't shoot them, and they keep jumping up and down like they're Crawmerax on a sugar high.

Fuck Drifters.

>>1829739
they're really weak to shock dmg and the butt isn't the only weak spot they have; there should be three glowing orbs on the bottom of their bodies that also take increased dmg

>>1829817
I know about the other spots. They're the first ones I shoot because I can't hit the butt but it still has like 40% HP left at lv 69. I see videos of people just spraying and praying at Drifters and killing them in a couple seconds so I guess I need a loadout that's not 4 sniper rifles.

>they're really weak to shock dmg
I didn't know that. Maybe I'll try again when I get a better Orion. Still using a lv 28 Orion because I haven't found a better one lmao

>>1829850
>it still has like 40% HP left at lv 69
>Still using a lv 28 Orion
do you think this might be the issue

>>1829882
I wasn't using the Orion on them, that's a separate issue.

Also when the front pips pops, I can't shoot them anymore. You know, like the eyes on a Rakk Hive, or a Crawmerax weak point. That's why it's 40% left. If I get one hit on the butt, they die, but that's the hard part IMO. By the time I get one down that low, I got jumped 20 times so I'm downed, and I can't run around because they're facing me 24/7 anyway. I'll probably get some better spray and pray shock weapons, and start fights by shooting them in the butt first so I don't have to have this issue.

someone else is gonna have to keep the thread bumped cuz I think I'm burnt on the series for now

I'm burnt on BL2 taking 20 years to start so I can't farm quest drops.

Unironically thinking about listening to the Anon telling everyone to downgrade.

>>1838369
you can read-only farm instead of alt+f4'ing, it's a lot faster and you only need to exit out to the main menu

is it literally ever worth it to use dahl that isnt some unique legendary

>>1840938
I personally love Dahl weapons.

Also one of my friends is using a sniper 99% of the time and he says in BL, the high fire rate guns are always better. So he's uses Vladof/Hyperion/Dahl snipers all the time. He loves the burst fire modes on Dahl guns because of all the headshots he gets. As a side note, he says it's miserable when I'm not playing an ammo slave for him. So I guess you wouldn't like them as much if you're playing solo.

>>1840938
Sand Hawk is a unique rare, that counts as an answer, right? :^)

Oh, turns out the lv 28 Orion was actually lv 40 but the game's retarded so it shows weapons to be 12 levels lower than they should be, when equipped, because of the weapon proficiency shit. Forgot that was a thing. Dumb part is that it only does this for weapons, and not the other stuff you equip.

Makes sense the old Orion is lv 40 because I got it from the Hyperion Gift Shop eons ago and that was lv 40 at the minimum. Only noticed it because I finally got a fresh new Orion from Crawmerax and it was lv 66, then lv 54, and then I noticed that the other Orion was lv 40 in the inventory. Oops.

Haven't shot any Drifters recently but the Craw maggots go down in like 2-3 shots now, instead of a whole mag. It's so nice.

>Trannylands

>take a break from grinding to burn Eridium for funsies
>get pic related
wew

I know what I'm doing when I hit max level again.

>finally hit lv 80
>get access to OP7 again
>roll the vending machine 178 times for a DP UH that doesn't have the butt-ugly Tediore box scope
One gun down, like a dozen more to go.
Guess I'll work on the Bee Shield next because I am not ready to redo the whole story for another Fibber+Sand Hawk combo yet.

Also, never knew that the Torgue token limit was 999. That is such bullshit when the price of one legendary is 613 tokens. I never hit the limit before because I bought upgrades every couple levels and also bought shit for friends all the time so I never hit it before. I had to turn down two perfect Flakkers because my wallet wasn't big enough for two legendaries. Fuck retarded currency limits.

>try to do a quick Armory run for Pearlescents
>notice I almost missed a Penetrator
>have to go back and check every chest in case there were others, or a Draco
Too bad it's not actually good. Not even 1,000 damage, or lv 68.

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