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Welcome to The Rivals of Aether General.

>Latest Video (Love Struck Event Trailer | February 2025 Rivals II Monthly Event)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OAOW5s0I-w

>Latest Patch: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2217000/view/496060273230086145?l=english


>Rivals of Aether official sites and Twitter:
https://rivalsofaether.com/
https://rivals2.com/
https://twitter.com/RivalsOfAether

>Where to get the games:
>Rivals of Aether
https://store.steampowered.com/app/383980/Rivals_of_Aether/
>Rivals of Aether 2
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2217000/Rivals_of_Aether_II/
>Lovers of Aether (Free Game)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1043180/Lovers_of_Aether/

>Feedback form:
https://rivals-of-aether-ii-launch.nolt.io/

>Rivals of Aether 2 resources:
https://rivalsframedata.com/
https://dragdown.wiki/wiki/Rivals_of_Aether_II

made a platfighter general
>>512591519
>>512591519
>>512591519
>>512591519

look at this cat

>expecting a Lovers of Aether event
>we get this instead

>>1608128
a fucking bee

>>1608065
are planning on making a new one?

the character select UI was updated today and it shows 5 empty spots

Hello turd worlder '-'
Have fun in your dead thread + dead game

>>1630881
yea, whatever

>>1638103
cool character, wasn't expecting olympia to return so early considering she was in the last 4 released for rivals 1

I like Absa's design. No boobas tho.

>>1638126
i'm happy. i didn't play rivals 1 but based on the gameplay that i'd seen, olympia and hodan were the character i was most interested in. that trailer was made for me.

>>1638103
i hope they make her work, she has an okay moveset but the workshop four were so janky in 1 they were all just terrible

absabros... There is a chance!

>>1638631
don't give me hope
I don't want to be disappointed for a third time

>>1638641
DING DING DING
Absa honey it's time for another character reveal trailer! Get in the chair!

Absa lost. again

>>1638103
>that focus attack
>that ryosukyaku
>Makoto's fukiage pose on the special pummel
>giant glowing purple hands
I will now play your DLC character

>>1638860
which attack is the ryosukyaku?

lol

>>1643990
where is the funny?

They let you use taunt on default skins.
Cool.

>>1645012
the taunt is sold separately
It would be a weird choice to make it work with only one skin

dead turd world game '-'

>>1655931
one of the posts of all time

>Futures foretold and long-forgotten pasts converge in AETHER LEGENDS - the next in-game event!

>From 3/4 to 4/1, you can earn FREE coins, bucks, and iconic Aether lore inspired items. Plus, grab the latest paid event bundle skins. Patch and event trailer drops 3/4!

>>1656667
>no trailer video
Its so fucking over.

>>1656675
>event trailer drops 3/4!
read the entire thing, anon

it should be safe to post a general on /vg/. im pretty sure that shitposter is long gone. he stopped showing up in /v/ threads over a month ago.

>>1658389
the reason this general is on /vm/ now is not because of the shitposter.
the last two threads we had on /vg/ were free of him and both died in 4 days with less than 300 posts.
/vm/ is a much slower board. no need for necrobumps every two hours here

>>1658392
the reason you need to necrobump so much is because no one knew those last two threads were up

>>1658395
and barely anyone knows this one exists too.
let's keep /roag/ on /vm/. /vg/ is full of mmo and gacha addicts that reach bump limit in their threads in just 3 hours

>>1658398
this thread is literally just you though

>>1658402
alright, what is your plan?

>>1658404
step 1: make discussion threads on /v/ (preferrably when a patch drops so not today)
step 2: wait for one of the threads to get a decent posts per minute ratio
step 3: create thread on /vg/
step 4: mention in the /v/ thread theres a thread up on vg

>>1658406
there's one thread up on /v/ right now
>>>/v/704326927

>>1658412
that threads too dead. see step 2

>>1658412
V threads die so fast

>>1660442
and this thread is alive a whole month later with minimal effort

New Event Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnDj-R6ahr8

>>1661350
>mecha lox
i am content

>>1608080
wow!

olympia gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10jLNXTZ0KA

>>1674649
just a small section on a almost 2-hour stream
she is still 3 weeks away from being released, they announced her too early

>>1672957
:D

>>1674773
3 weeks isnt really that long anon youre going to be okay

>>1674773
They announced it as the largest lan tournament yet. They just set their goal to a reasonable date to make sure that they can deliver.

dead just like I said it would be.

t. MeleeALPHA from /ssbg/. Kneel.

>>1678741
mind telling us where is /ssbg/? would love to pay a visit

>>1678749
strawman. 2-0. try to keep up.

>>1678741
it's a shame. this game was so close to being the one.

>>1680178
define 'the one'.

>>1680211
a platform fighter worth playing over melee

>>1680225
so...
all of them??
easier to make a list of games that aren't worth playing over ssbm

>>1680244
we simply value different things in a platform fighter and thats okay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg60KJU3p5c
>Maypul does not keep her base default looks
Into the trash it goes.

>>1682086
god these devs are so clearly homosexual, i can't fucking stand it

>>1682098
Lay off the internet, it's clearly not healthy for you.

>>1682086
looks ok I guess

>>1682098
it's a ferret dressed as a pirate. what is homossexual about it?

>>1680225
the only game that has a chance is fizzis if/when he releases it. even then I doubt it will be better than melee

>>1682166
its going to be literally melee but with different characters... for whatever reason.

>>1682166
Ah yes the "I have no team or money". Did anyone fall for his scam?

Also nice "charity" by "donating" to the rescue owned by roachsoftware. Though if its a 503 I always support scamming the US goverment out of tax dollars.

>>1682174
the reason is so that they won't be contained by Nintendo and be able get sponsors and basically just have complete freedom

>>1686301
meow to you too

that was weird

>>1685213
idk melee seems to be fine as is. nintendo isnt shutting them down anymore and they dont seem to have any troubles with sponsors. theres not a lot of them, but they are there. no ones going to play fizzis literal melee clone

10 days until we get Olympia

olympia thread deleted in two posts lol someone has a vendetta
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/706163416/

>>1691173
should've made another ac: shadows thread

the best player did a stream where he complained about the current state of the game and to my surprise its all of the same shit ive been saying for months!! O_o wow who couldve guessed i was right all along... about literally everything... as per usual
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2414337888
what were his complaints?
>the game is too easy and it leads to a boring experience because with everything being too easy, everything is quickly discovered and the game has already boiled down to people spamming the same options over and over again because they work
>game has no freedom of expression, like melee (but when i say it its bad and i need to fuck off back to melee or whatever)
>people are quitting the game because the games too boring to keep people interested (but when i say exactly this its a bad thing and i need to fuck off back to melee or whatever)
>someone asks if adding an execution would save the game and he says it would immediately fix all of this games problem (i disagree)
>believes the devs can make the game interesting, fun, and expressive without adding an execution barrier like melee (i disagree completely, the devs have already proven they have no idea what makes a platform fighter fun/good)
im interested in what you think of the current state of the game. is it fine? do you think things are heading in the right direction?

>>1693469
Go back to melee

>>1693528
rude

>>1693528
yeah what he said. rude..

Rip Hax$. Fuck Leffen.

Has the devs said they have plans for pve content?

>>1694779
Maybe they will reveal something at April 1 stream.

>>1695026
for real? another stream?
can't these devs release the content, put some patch notes and be done with it?

>>1695035
What's wrong with revealing upcoming features in a stream? Especially if they had done it annually on April 1st (except last year)

>>1695037
streams are stupid

>>1695086
They probably will follow it up with a news post for special people like you.

>>1694779
yeah there's a singleplayer story campaign in development. they showed it off during the kickstarter video.

Which games from BC7 should i watch?

>>1703142
the fuck is a 'BC7'?

guess this board will be shut down soon because of the april fools thing

New event trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgEs8CfeyUQ
and
the new april fools game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XwJ8Op6NZY
if you grab it on steam on the next 12 hours, it's free

>>1705108
Super fun game.

>>1705204
the game is ok
just glad they did not forget absa

Olympia just released

mang0 is on rivals 2 for the first time in months i repeat mang0 is on rivals 2 for the first time in months

>>1706313
I only caught like first 10 games. Whats his thoughts on the game now?

>>1706525
He didn't really say

This sequence alone is why rivals 2 will never scratch my platform fighter itch https://www.youtube.com/watch/Hsa29wllkmo

may I ask why you people keep bringing up e-celebs?

>>1708982
don't worry about it

>>1708987
do you get any joy from watching someone else play videogames?
I don't get it. When I see someone watch a stream, my first thought is "Why isn't this person playing that game instead of watching someone else play it?"

there is a Rivals2 version of Olympia's theme now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVSMvpWMVNs

>>1708990
How many hours do you have played?

>>1709062
Steam says I have 209 hours, but I imagine my actual playtime is around ⅔ of that

>>1709092
I have 222 hours. So despite your implied claim that I am not playing the game because I'm too busy watching streams, I do in fact play the game. So why do I mention """""""e-celebs"""""""""? Because theyre top players and I find it entertaining/enjoyable to watch the game played at a high level. I ask you, why is that a bad thing? I never understood why that's a bad thing

>>1709404
>I do in fact play the game
Good
>I find it entertaining/enjoyable to watch the game played at a high level.
That's the part I don't understand, you're not the one playing the game, you're watching someone else play it. How do you get any joy from that at all?

How do you guys like Olympia so far? I will main her until Absa comes out, and stay with her if Absa disappoints me.

>>1709819
I play mainly Clairen, so when I tried Olympia, the first thing that stood out was how close ranged she is. You need to be really close to your enemy to hit them.
Other than that, she's a good character overall. fun to play as

>>1709821
she's mobile though, I tried to play Clairen so many times but each one I am filtered by borderline tank controls

>>1709819
I think she's fun, just kinda sucks playing a rushdown character in game where everyone has really strong zoning options.

I made a new one

https://files.catbox.moe/xwoqo4.avif

>>1709526
I feel like you aren't even trying to understand me. When there's a tournament happening and people watch/talk about said tournament do you walk up to them and go "ermmmmm what are you guys doing? why are you talking about these tournament sets when you can just go play the game yourselves? i am smart and better than you hurdurrr"

>>1711232
I give up
there's no rational answer coming from you for a simple question

>>1709020
there is this one too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2bPAMUv7GA

>>1711263
I already gave you a real answer then you replied to me asking the same question

What did they mean by this?

>>1711460
that opening post does seem off-topic
not worthy of a 3-day ban though

>>1711466
Seems no less off topic than the thousands of "Mario if he real" and "The charges, officer?" templates

>>1711477
jannies are retarded, you have to take that into account

https://x.com/kusiwastaken/status/1909016133815906488
free my bird nigga

Olympia seems really, really fucking spammy. I wonder what the game would feel like if everyone had Etalus-tier frame data, honestly.

>>1709526
Competitive play is fun to watch because it's entertaining and mentally stimulating to watch players who are better than me push the game to its limit. How is this difficult to understand at all? It makes me want to play the game and improve.

>>1711671
That's because she is really, really spammy. She also has the most linear punish game in the game. People will realize this when their honeymoon phase with playing as her ends.

>>1711676
He's not interested in understanding. He just wants to pretend he is better than other people because he isn't interested in watching people play a game and choosing to instead play himself

I liked this thing
hope to see more of her in the future

>>1712572
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2478102112

Dunno why but game lags as fuuuck even in main menu. Refund it is.

>>1712924
neat

>>1713101
What are you PC specs?

>>1714033
cute

>>1714033
she killed millions

>stop playing for a few months because the game is too spammy
>come back
>the game is even more spammy
Nice

Where's the fucking whiff lag, faggots?

I feel like this game needs to take a long, hard look at what's going on with other fighting games and ask themselves if being an "accessible" game where two players just take turns doing their predefined game plan is really the wisest decision.

>>1714449
I don't think the devs look for feedback in a random thread on 4chan

try posting something here: https://rivals-of-aether-ii-patch-120.nolt.io/

>>1714466
I will, I've already posted some minor, feature-related feedback. I'm just organizing my thoughts. I feel like there's three main issues with the game:
>low recoveries on aerials (thanks to the lack of L-canceling) and too many tilts
>overcentralizing gimmicks with not enough active counterplay
>not enough execution required
Pretty self-explanatory stuff that I've seen repeated over and over everywhere the game is discussed. There's this pervasive sense that I'm playing the character, not the player piloting them, and the prevalence of low commitment attacks makes neutral way too fucking scrappy and retarded.

I'd love to play some sort of experimental version of the game where everything except strong attacks has more recovery or there's some sort of equivalent to whiff lag.

Is there a way to map A+B specifically? My configs are in an awkward position and I didn't have to bother with it until Olympia came out

Dan on whifflag

>>1714635
Well, hopefully they figure out some solution

>>1714635
jesus christ this guy doesn't know what he's doing. he doesn't know anything about neutral and fundamentals. no wonder this game feels like utter shit to play.

>okay i need to lock in
>lock in
>lose match
i got back up and p0wned the next match... i swear...

>>1714737
alright smart guy, how many games have you made?

>>1715646
murder-suicide

Man, Arcade mode hard mode is actually hard. Olympia's is especially annoying because she's light as hell and it's like perfectly structure to fuck you over.
>2nd round is teams against Orcane and Maypul, who just never die and bleed you to 40% easily
>horde is a bunch of Fleets
>last 3 1v1s are Etalus, Kragg, and armored Olympia
>the two fat fucks need to be locked down for the entire fight or they'll kill you with a stray hit now that you're like 60%+
>armored Olympia is just a rapist and will do insane shit like cancel focus attack into upB out of nowhere (not to mention never dying)
I've made it to the last round without dying once, and then died 4 times to Olympia. Brutal.

feels good piecing up passive faggots in this game. as soon as i realize i'm playing someone who's entire life up until this point has been circle camping and dash back grabbing, i just start playing as precisely as possible to give them nothing. it's funny watching their mental break as they're forced to approach for the first time in their lives, they have no idea what to do.

dumping random ranked webms. good to know that ranno's bair is still a completely mindless edgeguard.

>remember how to pressure for 5 seconds
>die

i'm a little disappointed that olympia's stage skin for rock wall is so expensive. i think the announcement said it was the newly hired environment artist's first contribution, but it's better looking than every other stage. the background could use a touch-up but other than that it's great. it has that distinctive UE5 lighting which surprisingly fits the game well.

>>1716063
you can buy it for coins though.

>>1716090
200000 coins is a lot

>stage skins instead of making new stages
lol

>>1716554
they're afraid of experimenting with new layouts and making fun stages

far horizontal knockoff is pretty much over for Olympia, right? I cannot recover

>>1716665
nevermind I just suck major cock, no matter who I watch they can recover from the fucking earth's core and I cannot come back from the slightest push off the stage.
Fuck this game

I can't stop playing the fucking rat...

>>1716090
It's a lot of fucking coins. That said I'm working towards it.

>>1716665
downB cancel into sideB into wall jump into upB, you can also use the crystal as a mix-up when you get better.

>>1716689
Her recovery is still the second most linear and punishable recovery in the game, sitting between Zetterburn and Loxodont. Even though she has multiple mix-ups off-stage, two of them send her in the same direction and barely move her forward. I've had very little issue edgeguarding her.

>>1717057
good
she's a fun character

>>1714546
Nevermind, just found out if you have your air-grab set to an action that uses the attack button (like nair), it will work when you press grab + special while in the air

Random friendlies WebMs

I wish I had recorded those matches I played with 2 other anons

>>1717348
Did a patch wipe your replays

>>1717349
I do background live recordings

>>1717350
You can just do a recording of the replays.

>>1717365
I don't have the replays
I disabled the replay auto-save some time ago due to how buggy it is.

>sweating trying to learn olympia
>feel like i'm getting good with her
>switch back to ranno
>literally everything is easier
damn i was carried. now i'm just getting carried by the new thing, though.

rat

>>1717611
Being carried is unironically what this game is about. You will always be carried in one way or another in a significant way unless you play maypul, the only character in the game that doesn't hold your hand and guide you through everything as if you were a baby

Is fleet an honest character? Her ground game blows (every tilt is frame 9 or higher), side-b is like frame 30 and always gets parried if your opponent has a brain, only her sweetspot bair is safe on shield, and float fucking sucks after they gutted the airspeed on it. Yeah, FC Nair and regular nair is fast as fuck but a lot of characters low profile it without even trying and the inputs are difficult. Her dacus is kewl though.

>>1719208
no

>>1720314
retarded looking

>>1720314
I hate this

>>1719178
maypul techchases for free though

>>1721001
no she doesn't

>>1721424
>>1721001
whom do i believe

do i have to be a massive fucking faggot - figuratively and literally - to play orcane effectively, or does it just help?

Get that shit off

and we're back

Still love my wife.

>>1723545
cute wife

>accidentally select Olympia in casual
>opponent instantly quits on CSS
lol
>rematch with them immediately
>pick a different character
>they pick Maypul
>switch to Olympia
>instantly quit
lmao

>>1723545
that's a man

God I love her so much.

>>1724618
her? what gives you that idea?

>oh, there's an ultimate tournament this weekend
>immediately greeted by Sonic vs. Steve, 2:30 into a match with neither having taken dmage
Y'know... maybe wanting to kill myself when fighting Clairen isn't so bad, after all.

Watching zain vs cody earlier is a pretty good reminder of why people are watching/playing melee and not rivals 2. One game is actually good and the other isnt. Neutral and fundamentals actually means something on melee

>on ranked
>get matched with another Ranno who's far more technical than me
>outplay him purely on fundamentals
>enjoying the game
>even intentionally give up an edgehog so it lasts longer
>he starts getting more and more technical eventually starts 2f babydashing across the entire stage instead of just running at me
>knock him across the stage with a random fair
>accidentally edgehog him when i meant to edgeguard him
>ALT+F4s the picosecond he misses the edge
guffaw

I don't like kragg

i started quitting out on every clairen in both ranked and casual and my mental wellness has improved drastically

starting to think i should only come back to this game once there's actually whiff punishing. a disjoint character with a brutal combo game isn't balanced at all when there's no penalty for whiffing any of her moves. worse, because hit stun is so high, she gets to do literally fucking anything she wants off of tippers, which are incredibly easy to land.
i even watched clairen tutorials to see if any of them covered her weaknesses, and you have no idea how many times i heard
>yeah you can just confirm into anything button off of this, do whatever you want
what a fucking dog shit character design

>>1730633
Impulse bought it because 1. It's a limited skin, even if it's to 5,000 and 2. I don't mind giving the developers money every once in a while. It's crazy how much goodwill making all future characters free earned from me. I was thinking about getting back into SF6, but one look at the character prices killed any interest I had.

>>1730633
what is this costume supposed to be?

>>1730700
evo drip

>>1730863
what's an 'evo'?

https://bsky.app/profile/rivals2.com/post/3lo4rzgtrsc2y
bird event

>>1732565
no, spring event
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKDFeR7yXeE

>>1733925
SPIRNG IS OVER NIGGA

>clairen's anti-fun zone cuts through the 1-stock weather
okay that's kind of cool though

>>1733925
Unsettling...

>>1733925
Woah, my wife is such a pretty adventuress

i've been playing clairen and, i have to say, this character is exactly as brain dead as she seems from the opposing perspective. i'm like level 12 with her and i'm getting an absurd amount of undeserved kills against players who are objectively better with their characters than i am with her.

at first i was approaching with her, which was a big mistake. all you do is hide behind your disjoints and fish for tippers, and when the opponent gets frustrated because they haven't hit in you in 3+ seconds you punish their approach with an anti-air or dashback grab.

>>1734227
i should also add that people get insanely fucking salty against her, which i can understand. i think it's impossible to play her without being a cunt. i've farmed more salt with her in those 12 levels than i have in 150 with my main.

>>1734227
the entire game is braindead. some characters are just more braindead than others

>i (olympia) match with a clairen player
>they quit out on stage select
>i (clairen) match with an olympia player
>they quit out on stage select
THE CIRCLE OF LIFE

Clairen

why does fleet get free tech chases with her fstrong?
why is matchmaking nothing but zetterburn?

>>1742178
>why is matchmaking nothing but zetterburn?
he's the character choice for spergs

>>1741058
I cant believe they removed her chest fur

>>1742948
That's a wrap!

- ALERT -
TRANNY FLEET HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE GAME, BE FOREWARNED

>>1742178
>why is matchmaking nothing but zetterburn
can i have your matchmaking

>>1744835
>tranny fleet
Obsessed.

>>1744867
it's literally a trashy-looking programmer socks skin that a tranny vtuber paid to put into the game (with she/her vtuber avatar on the t-shirt too). if you get any more trans-coded than that you start converting file types.

>>1745602
>with she/her vtuber avatar on the t-shirt too
But that's Ayala. Not everything from concept art was kept.

>>1746089
oh thank god they removed it

I am gay for the bird.

>>1744835
Incredible.

>>1746778
fatfags ruin everything.

is there a blender rig for the new fleet skin?

hey

Is this what "the goat" of melee is like in rivals? https://fixvx.com/mimic__chest/status/1922077695589925194

>>1750532
>ibdw
lol

fullstream's etalus is sick

also total tranny death

>Marlon having a meltie on xitter
Time is a flat circle.

>>1752565
What did "he" tweet?

This tuber thinks the next character will be the crocodile man seen in the unlockable stage from Rivals 1. I forgot about that guy but now that I look at him I want him. Big alligator guy with a stick, he looks cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5_zOYa8h8U

they changed FFA
match finishes after someone loses all 3 stocks and the victory goes to the player with the most kills

my mistake there
it's not stocks, it's time. FFA matches now end after 3 minutes

>beat some one-trick kragg who spends the entire match playing with his rock
>he switches to orcane
>literally 50% of his inputs are pissing on the stage and spawning bubbles
>don't even bother with parrying them, just slowly and methodically take him apart
you can't make this shit up
actually, you can, i should check if i still have the replay

>>1755943
>>1755915
probably for the best, way too many people were quitting out of FFA because they were eliminated first and forced to watch some faggot maypul player with no self-awareness camp for 4 minutes straight.

official survey. time to air your grievances.
https://forms.gle/QoFrQqxkSZWqwv6j7

>>1761324
Cool of them to do this.

>see thread about indie fighting games
>decide to clip a fun match i had yesterday
>by the time i'm done recording the replay, the thread has been killed
>sort catalog by creation date
>2 more DOOM threads to bring the total to 8, a FromSoft seethe thread, 3 different fetish threads
lmao

>>1761324
>smash run-like mode
you have no idea how mad i am that this was trapped on the 3DS

this guy was one of the most fun and interesting players i've fought in casual in a while. he got back up and 2-1'd me on our last set.

>>1762656
Nothing is stopping you from simply making a new thread. When you stop and realize how much of the catalog is garbage, bait, or off topic, you realize that even a low effort thread about a good indie game is objectively better than 70% of the catalog.

>>1763703
the 5 minute timer always kills my motivation

>>1761324
will the results be available to the public?

>playing egg kragg on casual to farm coins from the battle pass because i really want olympia's stage skin and it's the only event skin i have
>go 1-2 against some zetterburn who's decent, but just mindlessly holds in spamming shine and bair
>decide to switch to my main
>he won't ready up even though he keeps sending chat messages
>switch again to a random secondary
>he switches to kragg and spends the entire match just wildly spamming aerials like he's trying to make fun of me
someone needs to teach him how to access the replay menu, it would turn his whole fucking life upside down

after playing pretty much all of the roster i can confidently say that the characters that produce the most salt are
>1. kragg
>2. clairen
>3. olympia
honorable mention to ranno, but these three on another level entirely. clairen and olympia just sap people's will to live until they kill themselves, but kragg absolutely mindbreaks people. it doesn't matter how you play kragg, people just fucking despise him. i don't even think he's OP or anything. hell, zetterburn is way better.

>>1764444
kragg is just unfun to play against
he moves too fast for a heavyweight character

>>1764460
i really don't mind fighting kraggs except for the ones who do nothing but play with the rock the entire game. i can live with the side special cancel shenanigans. i can live with edgeguarding him for 30 seconds straight to get a kill. what i can't deal with is playing the stupid fucking rock minigame.
other than that he's fine. i don't think it's a coincidence that he's stopped placing that high in tournaments.

>>1764483

Also, nobody ever feels salty about playing against Maypul? I swear i've made more people run off stage than wrastor.

>>1764584
I despise Maypul, but every character produces a slightly different flavor of salt. I call Maypul mains losers more than any other main, but I'll never SD against the character or anything. With her, it's like
>oh, that's cute, they think they're good
It's similar to Zetterburn salt, except his flavor is because his Reddit karma-farming combo game, whereas Maypul's is because of her neutral. No shit it's easy to be an annoying fucking insect in neutral when you're the fastest character in the game with a hurtbox the size of a walnut, frame data that bails you out of every approach except the best burst option in the game, and a dash dance with a deliberately confusing animation. Now that I think about it, Clairen is sort of a middle ground between Zetterburn and Mapyul in terms of what makes her annoying.

But I don't give up against them or anything. I always feel like I can kill Maypul just by playing well, even if I have the "play the MU" to do it.

Absa

egg
egg

>>1765242
Dan isn't based enough to make her Rivals 2 model have fluffy boobs

>>1765684
>the taunt at the end
Kino kregg

new char sunday

>>1767494
*Trailer

I hope its the all-new Dan character

There is 100 people watching the top 8 at momocon right now. The rivals twitter account has been hyping this shit up all week and 100 people are watching it.

>>1768133
and there were 600 people watching the bracket of literal whos on combo breaker yesterday. no one knows momocon is going on, whereas combo breaker is actually a proper fighting game tournament that has been promoted more heavily.
regardless, if you care about this game at all, you're in it for the long run. rivals 2 is simply never going to do smash numbers and it's just going to be a slow, steady upward trend as the game gets more characters, features, exposure, and a console release.

what a nice day of watching trannies get bodied in pools

I swear the TOs put them on display cause they hecking cute.

>maypul / kragg
this MU looks like complete fucking AIDS for kragg

>>1768133
>>1768338
combo breaker was the event they've been hyping up, not momocon. i'm surprised that tournament even got 70 entrants i didn't know rivals 2 was there at all.

absacope

The game is currently 30% off. Last time it was discounted was when Olympia came out. What if they shadowdrop the new character??

>>1769850
>dan said in summer
Nah.

>clouds attach
Sick.

i have no attachment to the goat and don't know why people want her back so badly, but i'm happy for those that do

i play PM Zelda, is she similar? her cloud looks like PM Din's fire and she obviously has the Zelda kick.

>>1770576
I'd say she is similar that they're both zoners. Her air attacks are 1:1 with zelda.

>>1770600
yeah, i rewatched the character more closely and she just reminds me of mewtwo and PM zelda mashed together. pretty interesting. i hope she has a good learning curve.

i've been playing a lot of kragg to farm coins with the egg skin (i want that stupid olympia stage), and all i can think watching this set is that kragg has worse marthitis than clairen. fair will always be good and special pummel on platform is a death sentence, but it's crazy how quickly his shit just stops working the higher % it gets.

she looks irrationally angry

>>1770688
she's not over the trailer

>cake vs. a Loxodont
exposure imminent

>>1770795
okay i appear to have misjudged the situation

>>1770688
>maypul is angry
>olympia is angry
>absa is angry
What is wrong with the women?
>>1770825
Cool to see lox anywhere top

>>1770830
>What is wrong with the women?
no one dicked them, they can't get their paws on a human man

cake is such a machine
i like that his sets are at least back-and-forth, and not just him dominating. he just turns it on randomly.

She's finally here...

>>1771604
not yet
she will be added to the game july 1st, and that is 1 month + 1 week from now

rat webms

just re-encoded the gameplay part of the reveal trailer into a .webm

>>1771742
should've split into multiple webms and decreased the res a tad

i find it hard to switch between characters because the heavy / fastfaller characters feel like they play completely differently

>almost clean with it
>dstrong's animation raises hurtbox
should have fair spiked into reverse fair

>>1774736
kragg players deserve that

>make 1 mistake
>die

it's his time

Dunking donuts skin next month?

>>1775603
desu its several mistakes.

starts on tuesday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL2sKt2gnmI

>>1776421
Funny as silly skins, but that's not my wife.

Total Absa victory

Is absa a double jump cancel character or is she just a double jump character

>>1776567
I think djc

>>1776421
cheetohman fieri zetterburn is hard carrying
give me a look at his fireball, i want to see how cheesy it is

>>1776539
wasn't that game somewhat popular? what happened?

>>1776633
it was popular because it was free-to-play* IP wank. if i could make that asterisk like 10 times bigger, i would, because it was insanely exploitative and demanded months of playtime to unlock every character with in-game currency, which is to say nothing of the cosmetics. optionally, you could pay a modest $255 to unlock every character.
it was a cheap, badly mismanaged cash grab from beginning to end, and for whatever reason people forgave it its flaws because it had batman and superman.

never played either but platform fighters sound fun, do you recommend 1 or 2? i liked playing shiek and inkling at my friends house cause he has ultimate any analogs to that in either game?

>>1776714
2 has better netcode, a bigger playerbase, and proper shield/throw mechanics, but 1 has loads of workshop characters. As for analogs, Ranno is similar to Shiek and he's in both games. Idk about Inkling since I've never played as her, but her ink mechanic sounds like Zetterburn's fire stuff.

>>1776714
>1
A more unique game because of its emphasis on hyperoffense. There are no ledges, no grabs, no shields, and your primary defensive option is a parry, so you essentially get your opponent into disadvantage and relentlessly butt-fuck them to death. It still has a respectable amount of players on any given day (100-400), but I don't know how active it actually is. It also has Steam Workshop support, so it's fun to fuck around with custom characters.
>2
Much closer to Smash Bros., although its closest analogue isn't Melee or Ultimate, but Project M. It's still a very offensively-oriented game, but the addition of ledges, grabs, and shields mean that you do have more defensive options. If your experience with platform fighters is "I played Ultimate at my friend's house", your learning curve is going to be very steep. Not insurmountable, but steep; whether you enjoy it will depend on how much you enjoy learning and practicing a fighting game, despite losing.
>Sheik
Ranno is very similar to Melee Sheik: fast ground speed, slow air speed, good aerials, and needles (darts). Ultimate Sheik doesn't really benefit from the mechanics of Ultimate and has to work hard for what Sheik used to be able to do; in contrast, Ranno's a character with a low skill floor and high skill ceiling who's easy to learn fundamentals with.
>Inkling
There isn't an exact analogue for Inkling, but Maypul is probably the closest character: fast, small, and her seed lets her lock opponents in place like Inkling's roller. Zetterburn's fire, however, is similar to Inkling's ink in that it empowers specific attacks. But in terms of attributes (speed, size, etc.) and normals, Maypul is more similar.

Again, Rivals 2 has a steep learning curve if you're not an experienced platform player, or even an experienced Ultimate player. But at the same time, it's very accessible.

>one of those days where i just cannot fucking adapt to anything
>mental shatters into another hundred fragments ever single time i break clairen grab, forget to shield, and she gets a free tipper jab
yessir, it's a kill myself angle
in all seriousness i hate that clairen can just jab out of grab break

>>1776639
Not to mention questionable character pics either not coming before others or being added in general (Morty before Rick, fucking Banana Guard), as well as changing the entire feel of the game by adding shields and slowing things down from the beta (as Beta you ALSO had to spend money on).

surely the zetterburn nerfs are coming this patch
surely the tutorials are coming this patch
surely

>>1778326
What do you need tutorials for, cuz? I'd like another training minigame, something like "random survival DI drills" but tutorials? You already know how to play.

>>1778417
the droves of gold / silver players quitting because the game doesn't tell them how to do literally anything need them. the game does nothing but kick casual players in the teeth. if it's not going to add any of the features that attract more casual players, the least it could do is tell them how to wavedash, waveland, ledgedash, ledge cancel, SDI, or even just how to develop fundamentals that aren't
>okay now attack
>okay now shield / roll / spot dodge
it's bizarre: they bothered to design a visual effect that tells you when the opponent is CC'ing / FH'ing, but there's basically no information about their function or how to counter them. and even for advanced players there's information that's just straight up missing from the game and the guide on steam, buried deep in the wiki that no one reads, like dual stick SDI.

the way to learn a game should not be getting your ass beaten, going on reddit / discord (the only places that actually discuss the game), and being told "git gud" by faggot redditors. i've been patient with the devs but the lack of tutorials is just fucking mystifying 6 months and 3 DLC characters deep.

>>1778435
This is going to sound like cope, so I accept the banter. If you're going to build a game in the modern era with the intent on it having advanced movement/defense/offense techniques without going incredibly deep in the weeds on in-game tutorials, you're just going to lose on the game you're trying to iterate on. Doubly so when you don't even have goofy single player or multiplayer low level things to dick around in. Hell, you could use that stuff to teach high level tech. Smashclones have a notoriously high barrier of entry for higher level play to the point of them being meme'd on, but none of them make an effort to teach the important stuff and give it context.

>>1778511
The problem is moneeeeeeeeey

>>1778511
pretty much. you need to sell people on the experience you're trying to sell them, and right now RoA2 makes no effort in that respect. it's permissible in the case of a decades-old competitive game like Melee, which was never intended to be competitive, or a mod which is played only on the pretext of competitive play with foreknowledge of its mechanics like PM. but for a $30 modern fighting game it's pretty indefensible, and it only hurts the game.

Post your setting friendly never evers

>>1780305
Dan, she needs it.

>>1780305
This thing looks retarded even by Aether standards

Aw yeah

>>1780986
at least it's not a whole event about this crap

>>1781389
Dont forget to spam Hahaha emote

>>1719178
I play maypul and i think everyone in this game is honest (except ranno)

>>1781395
Lol i should do this

>lose to 800 lox
>beat 1200 maypul mirror
Why am I so fucking bad at this video game

>no balance changes
Okay, as long as they're coming in two weeks
>STILL no tutorials
What the fuck are they doing?

>>1780986
Predictable, literal faggots have been begging for these every week on the Nolt board for months. Be glad it's just icons and not skins, which is what they'll be whining about now that they've gotten a taste.

>>1781000
Don't give them any ideas

>>1781464
I think that absa release will be the big feature release

>>1781479
It's the last update before evo so it better be the big feature update

People just do not DI out when you use the gem as an air-to-air, I love it

Daily reminder
No Ledges, Walls Only >>>>> Ledge Trumping >>>>>>>>>>>> Ledge Hogging

>>1781985
ledge lobbing >>>> ledge hogging >>>>>>>>>>>> ledge trump

Thoughts on the creator of Olympia's hyena girl?

>>1784264
cute

>>1784264
plans to be added into any of the games or? Its cool, I guess

>>1784264
i mean, he has a type i guess

>>1784371
So do they.

>mfw orcane counterpicks fire capital
i actually went through my replays and the ONLY games out of all 128 replay slots are
>orcane players
>one really passive clairen player who did nothing but dash dance back and forth under platform for two entire games (she lost)
i don't even try to do anything cool against these losers. i just lame them out the second they start camping their puddle of piss. no thanks, i'm not going to walk into another epic bubble trap. have fun, i know i am.

>>1781464
>Be glad it's just icons and not skins, which is what they'll be whining about now that they've gotten a taste
https://rivals-of-aether-ii-patch-122.nolt.io/654
Like fucking clockwork

>>1784650
You give them an inch and they will fucking eat you.

>>1784264
more

>>1784650
Which one of you fags made the Ukraine flag request

>>1785528
>palestine and ukraine flag feature request
>let's not bring politics into the game about cartoon animals beating each other up
>well, well, well... looks like we've got a BABY GENOCIDE SUPPORTER on our hands

>>1784400
>ONLY games out all 128 replay slots
oop, meant
>only games over 4 minutes long
games on average are pretty short

>>1785831
these people are delusional

i honestly feel like the balance is in a better spot than people give it credit for and the most annoying issues left are
>maypul existing
>orcane's kit not working well
>zetterburn being too oppressive in the hands of good players
>floorhugging continuing to work at absurd %s instead of dropping off at around 60%
it's really un-fun to fight players who actually know how busted floorhugging is, who will either FH literally everything at low %s or survive shit that they have no right surviving at high %s. yes, i think olympia fair should kill at fucking 150% unless you amsah tech it.

>>1786108
most annoying thing is floorfucking working past 80%

>>1786963
Yeah, as soon as I started fighting people who actively, intentionally FH instead of people who CC and accidentally FH, it became immediately clear why it's a bad mechanic.
>game 3, last stock against a master Clairen
>finally get in against Clairen's wall of huge hitboxes, I'm Olympia so i have no range
>jab, dtilt
>FHs jab
>FH dtilt
>tipper jab
>fstrong
>dead
So fucking lame. I have never once thought to myself, "You know what, that was earned," after getting FH'd.

>>1788271
Oh, and she was at like 120%, I forgot

>fucking around on casual with a character i don't even know how to play
>somehow win a set against a dollar store zetterburn
>good game :))
>he wins game 1 set 2
>hits me with some cocky emote
>leaves

>>1788682
What is it with platfighter players? Speaking of which, does anyone even engage with the emotes? I just play the game and ignore stuff.

>>1789004
I usually just use
>hello when I load in, good luck if they say good luck
>good game after a good game / set
>this is my last game / set
>Orcane R E A L if they do something cool
on rare occasions I'll use the "I'm waiting..." emote if they're camping really fucking hard or "I'm scared" if it's a player I know who's good

22 days until absa
What do you think her ledge special is?

>>1793055
something complex with few use cases

>>1793060
Preferable to a Maypul style ledge special which is so good it gets used every time

>>1793055
speaking of ledge moves, what the fuck is the deal with maypul's normal ledge attack? why is it so disgustingly good compared to every other one in the game? for that matter, fuck clairen's ledge special and getup special. and why does zetter's getup special have like 36 fucking frames of intangibility?

you have no idea how hard i'm praying for zetter nerfs after CEO, absolutely fucking brainless masher character.

>>1793072
W-We did it... We're beating a bunch of dead games for scraps... Surely the developers will add tutorials before Evo so that the influx of new players won't immediately bounce off the game.

>>1793093
>anon confuses ranking for raw numbers

>>1793149
I'm joking, I know the entrants are probably pretty modest.

>2-0 some guy on casual like 3 times in a row
>they're really close / fun games, he's just not adapting
>switch to another character for my last set
>he switches to their worst MU
>taunts after every other stock in a 1-2 set

Real fraud hours

>>1793816
Wow that was really hard to pull off. I'm sure a 2 year old would struggle with playing ranno

>>1795175
Frog is an honest character

>>1795175
Touch the point on the doll where you got weak bair'd

>>1795242
I can't wait to see all zero of the Zetterburn and Ranno nerfs they have prepared

>rob myself in 2 sets with the same hyperactive Orcane player because I can't fucking stop SD'ing
>tilted, continue queuing
>matched with him again
>2-0 him this time
you take the small victories. i actually really liked how he played Orcane except for never not pressing a button for more than .5s. but man is his recovery surprisingly difficult to punish when they know how to tech. he didn't teleport to puddle once and he still never got edgeguarded despite my best attempts.

>encounter a zetterburn who made it to platinum by doing nothing but spamming dair / bair / uair / shine on shield the second he gets in
jesus christ, this character is so fucking stupid. i won, obviously, but it was just insane to me that he made it this far without zero fundamentals whatsoever.

>>1796608
Platform fighters will always be shackled to the balance mistakes of Melee to some extent

>>1796924
>only option is roll out
>die

>>1796924
Skill issue

>i'll just not DI
>i'll just not DI
>okay now i'll DI up
>never mind, no DI
brave, stunning
actually had a lot of good games with this guy

>zetter is nerfed to ACK
We win

>>1798858
thank god. i honestly like fighting zetterburn but i'm tired of all these dollar stores who only know how to do >>1796924
and here come the ranno nerfs deserved

>>1798890
I didn't catch the floorfucking changes. Stuff knocks you down faster and something about taking more damage?

>>1798898
i don't know, i missed them as well. ironically, because i was playing the game and lost track of time.

>Absa already in the CSS in the stream build
tantalizing

since nobody posted the link to the stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GxD2RGYnvI

>dan calling out one, singular platinum wrastor player as a cheeselord
lmao
this is why i like the ghetto-ass production

>zetterburn nerfs
>ranno nerfs
>kragg dthrow nerf
>narrowing fire capital slightly
>lowering the top blast zone of godai delta
>floorfucking stops working earlier
>strong attacks can't be floorfucked
yay
>floorfucking makes you take 25% additional damage
>wavelanding on platform has 2 frames less recovery
>you can maintain momentum while shield dropping through platform
interesting
>reworking wrastor for the 10th time
okay, whatever

glad they're specifically nerfing zetterburn's shine when you're directly under the opponent so redditors can stop posting their epic "combos" of shining people 10 times in a row into ustrong.

behead all maypul players

>>1801011
>no nerfs
Maypulsisters we are going to the top!

i will never respect kragg mains because you just know they pull out their bottomless bag of faggotry the second they start losing
i'm going to start listening to the audio cue for down special while i sleep so i never miss another parry

>>1801250
Total Kragg Death

>ranked
>run into...
>a zetterburn who does nothing but mash aerials and shine on shield, run away to the other side of the stage when it doesn't work, and spam full jump fireball to abuse zetterburn's air speed
>a kragg who does nothing but fish for dthrow to either exploit the normal pummel regrab or the weird timing on the special pummel down cargo throw tech
>a ranno who does nothing but however slightly outside of my range holding needles so he can fast fall onto shield with them
crazy how i got the trifecta of playstyles that are explicitly getting nerfed in a few days, i should have waited

>matched with a kragg who's clearly much higher than me and just starts hiding behind endless rock shenanigans the second he's down a game against my crusty-ass tertiary
>quit out
>switch to ranked
>same kragg
>he was in fact like 300 mmr higher than me
i just don't feel like playing the rock minigame today

finally an actual sick olympia in bracket (sandstorm)

>cocky player tries to ice me out on the CSS / stage bans for no reason
>loses

>the troon won CEO
Rivals has fallen.

>>1808973
huh?
did something happen to Dan?

2 weeks until Absa

>>1808973
>zetterburn
fake-ass win

I think I'm just going to stop playing until the patch, I can't take all these fucking crack-smoking platinum Zetterburns who only know how to dash dance and relentlessly spam safe options. Oh, completely whiffed my approach? No big deal, shine. Whiffed my tech chase? That's cool, shine. Finally hit something and don't know what to follow it up with? I'm thinking shine, or maybe a cheeky falling uair which has a hitbox that should have never seen the light of day. Whiffed my uair follow-up? Shine.

They should honestly just consider reworking the Fox / Wolf function in a game without L-canceling where wavedashing is as easy as buffering two inputs at the same time. It's just a fundamentally retarded design decision and no amount of minor nerfs are ever going to fix the fact that having a move that's active frame 2, combos into itself, activates the character's win condition, and can kill confirm with that win condition is retarded. The thing that stops Fox's shine from being the end-all-be-all of Melee is the execution barrier, which doesn't exist in RoA2. If they ever decide to add real recovery to moves, I hope the change absolutely rapes Zetterburn into an early grave where he promptly becomes a maggot farm.

>>1810231
the patch is out tho

>>1810267
wtf...

>nerfed Kragg's air speed
>nerfed utilt
>nerfed dthrow
Good. I fucking hated how free dthrow follow-ups were on this stupid character. I'd play him more often but it just feels like you're BM'ing your opponent by playing him "right".

She's an animal

>>1810362
they all are

>>1810362
>Zetterburn gets deservedly nerfed
>Ranno gets deservedly nerfed
>Kragg gets deservedly nerfed
>mfw Reddit immediately sets its sights on Olympia, who was already nerfed two patches ago
Who could have possibly predicted this, watching the chat seethe whenever Olympia was on-stream during CEO? The character is hard countered by DI'ing gem out, knowing that bair and dair are -3/-4 on shield, and DI'ing and techning away in general because she's slow as a sack of bricks. She's a knowledge check.

If you ever check the ranked leaderboard, Olympia is suspiciously absent from the top, which is mostly Clairen and Zetterburn.

>Rivals will now have a unique animation when jumping backward, both on the ground and in the air.
based

>>1810417
I think that clairen is gonna be the next big target for changes, maybe wrastor.

>>1810437
Maypuls` is socute

>>1810438
I don't know what they're going to do with Clairen. Gold and platinum players HATE her and even top players say she's secretly broken, but the nerf to her air speed slowed down the complaints.

I've reached my mental plateau, where my ability to learn and adapt is dead because I'm rewarded for picking the same brainless options over and over

They gave him eyebrows.

is this game worth re-installing yet

>>1811584
What were your issues with it?

>>1811584
what kind of features would make this game 'good' for you?

>>1811598
i thought all of the characters were too easy to play and neutral/getting an opening/fundamentals didnt require enough skill also i disliked how easy it was to camp people. would i enjoy the game now

>>1811602
Sounds like the bar is impossibly high, probably wont enjoy the game.

>>1811607
just pretend i only typed the last part about it being easy to camp people. is it still easy to camp people?

>>1811609
Much less so.
>Ranno
His needles were nerfed to prevent people from camping with jump. You were previously able to fast fall while charging needles, meaning players were simply jumping, waiting for their opponent to approach, and then fast falling to use the needle as a hit confirm. Ranno's ground speed was also nerfed. Ranno players will still camp platform to fish for waveland bair, but you can just parry them.
>Wrastor
Wrastor's slipstream was completely reworked to disincentivize camping. Rather than it being active for X seconds and deactivated when he's hit, it's active for 2 seconds (or 4 if he hits the opponent) and hitting the opponent extends it or reactivates it for 2 more seconds.
>Kragg
His air speed was reduced, so it's harder for him to run away. However, it also makes it harder for him to approach, so there are probably people who are hiding behind rock while they relearn how to play him.
>Maypul
Will always be annoying as fuck to fight, but they nerfed her wall cling so if you get her off-stage it's much easier to edgeguard or gimp her.
>Clairen
Will always dash dance in neutral fishing for grabs, but their nerfed her air speed to prevent her from camping people out in neutral with options like retreating fair. She now has to commit to hitting her aerial tippers.
>Orcane
His bubbles were nerfed a few months ago to disincentivize camping. It's much, much less common than it was before, but so is Orcane.

In platinum and diamond, the only players who consistently camp are Clairen and Maypul players. I just do not find Maypul fun to fight at all, but Clairen players can be picked apart because almost all of them are just scrubs with bad habits. The only people who have circle camped me in forever were one Zetterburn and one Kragg player. The Kragg player did nothing but neutral and down special, and the Zetterburn did nothing but run to the other side of the stage and jump and side special.

>>1811649
Also, I should add that most people in platinum and below are easy to kill on the rare occasions where they try to camp because they'll just blindly burn their double jump in a game where every uair has 1 billion hit stun and combos into itself. It's probably the #1 bad habit of gold players: burning their double jump while trying to avoid your respawn invincibility.

I considered buying the sequel and from what I can tell, everyone hates it for being e-sports garbage to the point it virtually has no playerbase. What happened?

>check the Kragg Discord because I keep seeing posts about his being literally unplayable
>people posting depressed "I... I just don't know anymore, man..." suicide notes
People are such drama queens
>one message from a pro player
>"Yeah, I think he's still good. :)"

>>1811767
>1000 player peak
>no playerbase
?
and by "everyone" you mean the handful of bitter rosterfags who dare acknowledge the game's existence; not the same thing as a casual player who enjoys roa2 free for alls.

>>1811767
>virtually has no playerbase
I agree that the playerbase is small, but it's still double the players compared to the first game.

>>1811767
>e-sports garbage
It's honestly the opposite, because one of the core design philosophies of the game is accessibility. It's easy to pick up and play, the controls are responsive and offer the option for macros, it has an input buffer (which I believe is 6f) as opposed to Melee's lack of input buffering, frame data follows a consistent internal logic, and it's easier to perform advanced techniques like wavedashing, wavelanding, moonwalking, etc. I'm not claiming that this is entirely a good thing, by the way. I think that there are issues with making the game "too accessible".
On the other hand, the developers are retards and still haven't added tutorials for anything beyond basic offense or defense, so you have to either get your ass beat in matchmaking, refer to external resources (official and unofficial), or watch other players play to learn how to play. There is a semi-official video series that explains everything, but it's a pretty pitiful stopgap.

>virtually no playerbase
It has a respectable playerbase for a niche subgenre within a niche genre, where most games just McFucking die a month after release. I rarely have issues finding players at my skill level in both ranked and casual matchmaking, even in the dead of night.
The game is also very likely to be stable in the long-term because it's cheap ($30, $20 on sale), DLC characters are free, the developers directly support and promote the competitive scene, and it's still in active development so it's only going to get more features and polish over time. If it has cross-play, a console release will probably push it into truly relevant territory.

>everyone hates it
Fighting game players and ESPECIALLY Smash players are retarded faggots who hate putting a single toe outside of their comfort zone. Insecure weirdos also seethe at it because they're incapable of looking at anthropomorphic animal character without having strange thoughts about fucking their dog.

Buffered inputs
>Never know when moves end
>Never know when the buffer begins
>Moves come out delayed by several frames
>Mash every input to guarantee it comes out on the first possible frame
>Sometimes buffer eats your input anyway
>unintuitive blending of inputs together

Unbuffered inputs
>Always know when moves end
>Always know when actionable state begins
>Moves come out as soon as the frame is rendered
>Never mash inputs, only skill and precision is required
>If you input before actionable, you always know exactly how and why your input was incorrect
>Each input is independent and flows freely into the next

>>1811939
Go back to /vg/ lil bro

>>1811943
No buffer is a good thing

>>1811939
shit copypasta on an issue nobody cares

>>1811948
It was relevant to the post above it. I am interested in talking about the game and you are only interested in attacking me. There is a reason for this (it's because I am right and you are wrong)

>>1811951
no, you're just autistic

>>1811952
>still attacking my character
Also even if I was, who cares?

>>1811758
Her model's proportions definitely look a bit better now

she appears to just be a mix of pm mew2 and zelda with pikas up b. also dan is already repeating mechanics (she grabs people and attaches them with poppy just like maypul)

Dan's character levels

tic tic

>devs playing friendlies to showcase a new character
soul...
takes me back to sakurai playing like shit against CPUs

>>1812585
>maypul 368

rat bems

*sigh* i really want to like this game but it being a low iq mash fest is so disappointing.

>>1814741
Absa will fix everything

>>1814741
what's your mmr
in my experience, most mashers are in gold and platinum, but there are some characters who are just legitimately brain dead mashers no matter how many frame data knowledge checks you pass. zetterburn, maypul, and clairen mostly. olympia too but she's easier to counter. still deciding how i feel about the floorhug change, since everyone just seems to fucking love dtilt now more than ever.

>>1814776
around 1300

>>1814863
it is what it is. i'm also around 1300 and i can slow down neutral enough to beat most mashers, but there are some characters i just struggle with no matter what. for whatever reason i really struggle with forsburns who know how to mash fair. like any other fighting game, you have to have two different strategies for competent players and for chaotic retards who hold in, but it can be annoying how effective the latter is.
i still want to play a version of this game with more endlag / attack commitment to see how it feels.

>got washed by plup on casual
jesus christ, he's terrifying. even just staying in neutral for more than 3 seconds felt like a small victory.

10 days until we get Absa

>>1818145
yay

>opponent falls out of the first hit of olympia's dstrong for the hundredth time
normally i'd say something like
>that's okay, the character with nothing but amazing normal attacks and aerials doesn't need good strong attacks
but then i look at other characters' movesets and none of them have this issue where an entire category of their moveset is so ass. dstrong doesn't work even when it hits. fstrong is so slow and unsafe that there's always a better option except as a jab reset punish. and ustrong is also just outclassed by other options.
i have no idea what you're supposed to do with any of these.

why aren't smash bros clones ever good?

>>1821128
Because most of them mistakenly think that an intellectual property orgy is what makes a good game, and then get greedy when prostituting IPs generates a strong initial interest.

Of all the monthly events so far, this might be the worst one imo

>>1821119
they're all crappier versions of ranno's strongs!! they should be safer on shield if done in her crystal field or some synergy like that

>>1821335
Cheetohman / Guy Fieri Zetterburn is good, but I don't care for anything else. I'm just waiting for it to be over when Absa releases.
>inb4 it's a summer event and someone other than Fleet finally gets a summer skin

>>1821883
>Absa summer skin
just imagine

micro bikini maypul

Maypul can't have a summer skin, she doesn't wear clothes. Also I doubt they want to put in more work modeling Lily, Terry, etc. when they've put out 3 skins for her relatively recently.

Maypul is sexy when she is naked.

1 week until goat

>game getting review-bombed because its co-publisher that only does marketing employs Pirate Software, and apparently he killed some YouTuber's initiative against shutting down live service games
>meanwhile, in reality, RoA1 has been supported for 9 years despite its pitiful player base
>and RoA2 is objectively the most pro-consumer fighting game on the market
What the fuck is wrong with these retards? Why does RoA2 attract so many schizos? If it isnt Melee players refusing to touch the game because it isn't Melee, it's Ultimate players who leave negative reviews because they don't know how to play a game without daddy Nintendo protecting them from the evil "tryhards". Oh, the game's too furry. Oh, the game's not furry enough. It's too hard. Actually, it's too easy. The live service game developed by a studio that's only alive because it's a live service game actually HATES its consumers and wants to shut the game down.

Seriously, can we get a fucking break from these deranged niggers? RoA2 is a good game and it gets nothing but schizo hate.

>>1828150
they can't differentiate developer from publisher

>>1828150
I'm a melee player and I left a negative review

>>1828150
it's happening on /v/ right now
>>>/v/713653265
>>>/v/713655442
>>>/v/713679761

i love pm and rushrev but something about this game just doesn't work for me. every character is ehh

>>1828150
No you will suffer eternally.

>>1828150
You can't blame people for viewing your game as unfun and unfinished

>>1829273
Actually, I can.

>>1829653
lol

There's a difference between
>this game is unfun and unfinished
and
>I've been eating the same brand of chicken tenders for 24 years and I refuse to do anything else
Some Melee players will look at a game in which half of the roster is competitively unviable, in which even "viable" characters can't win tournaments, in which multiple characters don't even function correctly, in which an exploit with no counterplay remained unbanned in competitive play for 15 years, and in which the technical precision required demands the use of either modified, Frankenstein'd controllers or a leverless and think
>Ahh... perfection....
>And to think, people just learned how to cheese Fox with DK! There's so much more Melee to be played, bros!
I've played Melee since I was in grade school. I've watched it since the mid 00s when crusty-ass competitive recordings began popping up on YouTube. I went to my locals. I've played enough fucking Melee, and I've definitely watched enough considering all we're left with for the foreseeable future is hbox. I'm going to keep playing netplay with friends, but I can't imagine looking at Melee in its current state and thinking it has a future.
>tournament series dying
>entire organizations dissolving
>sponsorships being pulled left and right, even for top players
>tournament attendance down everywhere
At a certain point you need to let go and move the fuck on from a dying game with a dying community co-opted by SJWs and content creators.

>>1830424
smash bros is a party game, 'character viability' is not something that the intended target audience should care about.
these games only got a competitive scene due to autism

>>1830447
Everything past Melee is a party game. Melee is an accidental competitive game that got shoved under the rug by Nintendo for being unsightly. If anything, Melee players should be happy that there's a competitive platform fighter that isn't shackled to the gorillion dollar corporation that would nuke them in an instant if they could.
Also, just calling Smash a "party game" doesn't change the fact that it's a game where the explicit objective is to win fights. It's like insisting that Mario Kart isn't a racing game just because it hates the idea of people winning through their own skill at the game. Mario Party is a party game.

looks like they're going back and polishing the earlier stages based on the absa dev stream. only fire capital was shown, but it'll be nice to have a reason to go to rock wall over crystal oasis.
or maybe it's just fire capital because it looked like shit with its old nonexistent lighting.

>>1830424
You have no idea what you're talking about and it's very clear to me you are lying straight through your teeth in this post. There's far too many obvious contradictions and blatantly untrue statements to ever take this post seriously. Your post comes directly from a place of pure hatred and seethe, not truth and honesty

>>1830473
why the hell does this stage have no shadows when I see it on tourney vods? looks fine when i play it

>>1830696
For a while there was some glitch that was affecting graphics settings, but now I think they're just retarded and set the graphics to low for more fps. Like how is your tournament stream setup PC not good enough to play Rivals 2 on high?

Also, the current version of the stage only has directional lighting on a few elements: the pillars and statue of Loxodont in the back. It seems like all they did is actually apply the same light source to the entire stage. I don't know whether they were worried about readability or what, but the new version is infinitely better.

>>1830872
someone needs to tell them that low settings should have baked lighting rather than no lighting.

>>1830877
https://rivals-of-aether-ii-patch-125.nolt.io/
It could be (You)

>>1830696
maybe it's there to keep the framerate high
in competitive stuff, high framerate is a priority

>>1830424
Yeah, and its tiring to see nintendo drones pretend otherwise.

>>1830424
You forgot
>mang0 in jail

>bump limit
>page 8
do we move back to /vg/ for absa or do we just stick it out here. thread isn't fast enough for /vg/, but it's hard to tell whether it's because it's /vm/ and people don't even know it exists.

love gacha games ruining /vg/ btw

>>1831557
Just stick here. /vg/ jannies will never ban offtopic shittery outside their gacha threads.

>>1831557
I already have the next OP prepared, just waiting for this thread to hit page 10

>>1831641
k

swimsuit absa let's go i bet it's somehow less revealing than her default outfit

>>1831834
could be clairen, the colors match her sword

>>1831904
It's a clip. It's an Absa cloud that pops. However, if it's a summer event then this snorkel Clairen skin will be a part of it.

>reading all the praise for Smash Remix 2.0
>finally get around to playing it
>mfw i've been completely spoiled by RoA
It was fun, but it feels so sticky and awkward that Melee feels like baby oil in comparison. The shield stun is fucking WILD. Shieldgrabbing is simply not an option, nor is jumping OoS. Feast or famine experience, especially with how Z-canceling works.

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