What's going on with this game? Had a short-lived general on /vg/ when it first came out. They added an expansion a few weeks ago and it added a new region with more content. I downloaded it for the first time in months and currently playing through the expansion. It seems alright and I still see a lot of players. Anyone wanna play together?

They merged servers and there's A LOT of activity right now. Everything is extremely overcrowded.

Did they improve combat from launch

>>1703883
In what way?

>>1703883
They added a new weapon and new skill system

Let's revive the guild come on bros we can do it

>>1704526
i'm new to the game but i'm interested in joining if this takes off

>pvpers complaining about open world pvp bosses being removed when all they did was team up with other strong guilds and farm off casual players
KWAB

>>1705662
Those wankers still have nebula which provides the BEST ACCESSORIES IN THE GAME to whale zergs.
Normal players can never get those.

>>1706048
Honestly they should go a step further and remove PvP from the open world dungeons

>>1706261
But how will the poor little whales get their free dungeon tokens then?

I don't want to do trials again.

>orb and gauntlets weapons leaked through datamining
Idk what the fuck an orb is in a weapon sense but gauntlets sound cool

>>1707100
>orb
Aion had that, it'll be another caster weapon. In Aion the summoner class used it so who knows.

was thinking about coming back to this but I didn't like the way the /vg/ guild was ran in regards to loot drops. I should be allowed to keep whatever drops for me and if I don't need to equip be allowed to sell it. why do I have to have some council of guild members tell me what I can and can't have?

>>1707451
>I should get all the benefits of a group effort
It's no wonder all 4chan guilds are always full of retarded drama.

>>1707463
commie speak
if the game gives me the drop and I put in just as much effort as everyone else then everyone else isn't entitled to MY drop, it's not my fault I happened to be luckier than them in that specific instance

>>1707487
Then you're welcome to play alone.

>>1707500
nice retort dude totally got me stumped on that one

I'm downloading this now. What server should I pick? What did the /vg/ general play on?

>>1707606
We were on Adrenaline

I played it at launch and I quit in the first week because I realized the game would take all my free time, the dailies/weeklies took too long. I was in the vg guild. I learned and did the dungeon bosses to farm the gear I needed, the game is fun. I upgraded my pc from an ancient CPU to a 5700x3D, are you guys still playing it? the game has 2x the population of lost ark and 5x the population of new world, so things are still looking decent.

I'm reinstalling it to check it out, kinda sucks it's 90GB

I was lvl 50 at least

I'm only missing T2 necklace but all the options that aren't from the Nebula bosses are utter garbage holy shit.

this game good?

>>1710550
I've been on it for the past week. Got caught up level and story wise. What I've been doing was just using my dungeon contract points to queue up for the 2* dungeons. Trying to get more purple gear. Can't really do other shit without a guild.
>>1711200
It's alright. The roadmap for the game looks promising.

>>1711420
I got overwhelmed with how much shit I have to do and currencies I have to spend, need to find a guide to the most efficient maintenance I can do.

>>1711447
Pretty much the main things to be doing every day if you don't have a guild is just queue for instanced dungeons and do abyssal contracts in public dungeons. It used to be common with people to party with randoms for open-world bosses but now most people just party with their own guild mates.

>>1711476
what are the best pve weapons rn? I was going for bow staff iirc. is the new spear good?

>>1711529
don't be a fucking meta nigger

>>1711533
it's about being able to do the dungeons quickly

>>1711538
good thing the dungeons are super fast and easy so just play whatever you enjoy

>>1711529
Me personally I don't care about meta but I'm a GS/Daggers user. I think Bow/Staff is high up there already. GS/Spear and Spear/Daggers is supposed to be pretty good.
>>1711546
Yeah you can just queue dungeon matchmaking and complete one in 10 minutes. Speaking for the 2* dungeons. I haven't done any of the newer ones but I hear they're pretty difficult.

are there casual groups? someone needs to carry me on the content, Im on adrenaline as the old guild was

>>1711825
People are going to meta check you if you try to party up with them in Nebula Island but you can casually party up with someone in instanced and open world dungeons. Right now the open world dungeon everyone is farming the most is Bercant Manor.

If you use daggers, you're not human but a r*dditor.

How many anons do we have here that want to reinvigorate the guild?

>>1712218
this but for staff

>>1712875
True but it's a recent development. Daggers have been the NPC overpowered weapon since day 1.

>>1712244
is anyone even in the /vg/ guild? does it still exist or do we have someone make a new one?

any europoor guild?

>>1712919
it doesn't exist and no one is going to make one, it doesnt make sense to be in a casual guild in this game, u're either guildless or in a big guild

do you get like boosted gear if you join one of the new dungeons? I don't want to be drag on the team but I don't even know what gear I supposed to go for and dont have the time to search for guides

>>1713186
I mean who knows. We can possibly reform the guild with a few anons and see if it grows. That'd depend on if this threads grows or not.

how long does it take to master a pair of weapons again?

>>1706048
>there are people who willfully subject themselves to digital cuckholding
MMO need to die.

>>1714029
Korean games are ALL about cuckoldry. It reflects their bugman society while every single social interaction must be some kind of childish power play.

>>1713217
Months and months to hit 200. But you don't really need to since 99% relevant nodes are already unlocked by 140 or so which most players already have.

I played it on launch with /vg/.
This game sucked massive fucking dick.
Typical korean MMO slop gameplay systems with a million different currencies and daily stamina gated systems
Horrible combat
If you're not in a big zerg guild don't even bother attempting to play

>>1714254
yeah but if you are in a big zerg the fights are fun and chaotic, that's the appeal of a mmo

>>1714600
The fuck are you on. Mass fight are a slideshow with horrible performance and then the combat and game mechanics are utter dogshit for PvP.
You can't even fucking target properly (tab target is fucked up) and the most popular weapon can detarget itself at will and then good luck targeting that nigger again.
Not to mention retarded shit like evasion.

>>1714631
sounds like u're poor and have a bad pc and is blaming the game
you don't even need a good pc for this game btw

>>1714636
Yeah bro i9 and 4080 are poorfag tier.

>can't run an unreal engine 4 game with my overpriced intel 300w piece of crap

>>1714600
>yeah but if you are in a big zerg the fights are fun and chaotic
zerg vs zerg warfare has never been fun in any game, ever
>that's the appeal of a mmo
maybe in some shithole thirdworld country like korea but the rest of the world does not find zerg vs zerg appealing or a positive feature for an MMORPG.

I thought this game was gonna have spontaneous open world pvp like old bdo where it's not always a zerg but often 2v2s, 2v3, 3v3, 4v5, 8v8 etc, small scale stuff most of the time that lets people really establish their guild reputation. Just random numbers based on whatever guild could get people to come as back up and usually in small-ish numbers until it turns into a real gvg beef session where guilds slowly start building up their numbers and talking shit, making plays on each other and so on.

The way they did guild pvp in this game is so gay. The only time pvp ever happens is in big numbers all at once and it's all based on time scheduled shit so nothing is organic. Fucking retarded way to go about it. No individual player or set of individuals can ever stand out, it's only about how big and geared your whole guild is because the only time they are relevant is when you're zerging in a large ball.

>>1715434
even small scale sucks ass in this game because of d*ggers

>>1703633 (OP)
I went back to blade and soul, aion, and L2

>>1715595
I tried BnS Neo but it didn't feel fun and the playerbase is 99% coomer lolitards so I uninstalled fast.
Trion various Aion pservers but they're all dead.
L2 is 99% Russians and they don't communicate in English.

i'm playing it right now.

Any of you managed to get past the rainbow walls since Talandre was released? You can still glitch past but you either get rubberbanded back or teleported if you try to move.

>>1707100
>2 more weapon skins for every set
They really need to lower the price of these fucking weapons. $12 USD for a single weapon skin is greedy gremlin fuckery.

>>1711538
>>1711546
>>1711568
>>1711533
If your health is below a certain level and you don't have a "meta" accepted weapon combo, you get automatically vote kicked from the dungeon. "Just play with a guild".

>>1715434
the rosy idea you have about wpvp is always delusional. it always conflicts with reality and how the game actually ends up played outside of maybe the first week.

>>1720383
I've been playing with "meme" weapons since the launch and never had any issue getting into groups and clearing T15 trials.

>>1720403
The game's so instanced that the dungeons don't even have a physical entrance in the overworld.

>>1720493
The fast travel loading in the game is so well done I kind of wish they didn't have an instant queue panel for everything.

>>1720633
Talandre has this cool funicular system you can see from anywhere yet it's unused because of teleportation.

>>1720639
It fell into the same trap as all other MMOs. It puts in all this effort for a beautiful world, but then design content that ignores it completely. Abyss dungeons are great, but they need to put in a little more effort to make them interesting. Like Blackrock Mountain/Dungeon, a literal enemy city, or other things of that complexity. And give incentives for people to do daily contracts in different zones than letting them fall into just doing it at the same spot every time. And maybe give a slight bonus to damage/healing if you manually go to a dungeon entrance instead of using the queue. That should make the world feel more alive, with people in every zone.

>>1720720
Why do devs keep sabotaging their own work like that anyway? It makes zero sense.
>hmm I'm going to create this cool thing
>then I'm going to make sure players never interact with it

Is this still heavily PvP focused or have they transitioned into a PvE game yet?

>>1722578
It was never PvP focused and PvP is horrible.

>>1722979
Happy vacation bros.

>>1720393
bdo was like that for a good 7 or so years until the devs made the conditions harder and harder to achieve to support said environment through gear creep, before outright removing it from the game

im so happy ncsoft is giving in and is slowly giving us sluttier skins. now we just need a micro bikini this summer and slutty pose emotes it will be perfect

>>1703633 (OP)
Too pay to win.

Bros I miss Lottie my wife so much... it almost made me want to buy her outfit simply because the store had her cute lil face with it. When will the story bring her back?

Why is this still up.

>>1722979
>not pvp focused
>pinnacle pve content is repeating 10 minute hallways 3x per day

if you say so I guess

>>1739275
it's not pvp focused because you are forced to do 200 whatever hrs of pve before you can have fun in pvp. how do retarded korean mmo shills fail to identify this issue every single time

>>1739275
>some of the worst combat mechanics and class balance ever seen by man
>some of the absolute worst mass pvp performance to the point it's a slideshow where you don't even see half the players
>no actual pvp content that appeals to most players, everything relevant is dominated by a zerg alliance
>the small-scale pvp-pve they introduced recently actually discourages pvp
>trying to slightly adjust or switch your build requires swiping and likely weeks or months of doing your chores

>>1739282
>it's not pvp focused because you are forced to do 200 whatever hrs of pve before you can have fun in pvp.

Why are there no MMOs that let you actually progress your character by pvping? Warhammer online I think is the only MMO I've played where you got experience from killing a player.

>>1739290
I don't really agree that the balance is notably worse than other games. I've never seen a rpg/pvp game that isn't heavily dominated by a clear IMBA spec/comp. The performance is pretty bad for a game marketed as having mass PvP but also I can't think of anything with as many players on screen.

>>1739290
forgot to mention
>daggers

>>1739306
>I don't really agree that the balance is notably worse than other games
i've played a myriad of mmos and this one has some of the absolute worst balance, it's downright unplayable

>>1739306
>Why are there no MMOs that let you actually progress your character by pvping
That's hard to monetize, and gooks are the greediest people on earth. Funnily enough chinks decided to make a pvp MMO where you literally do level up from pvp, and there is minimal pve required. It's called warborn or something. I haven't tried it and probably won't because I don't like the camera perspective.

>>1739845
I fucking HATE leveling from PvP especially when it's forced.
Leveling in all modern "MMOs" is an afterthought anyway and can be done at blazing speed. Stop showing forced EXP down my throat.

>>1740188
People who want to do pvp in MMOs just want to jump in and progress their pvp capabilities through pvp, without having to grind pve mobs for 200 hours if they don't want to. I didn't say anything about being forced to do pvp, what are you talking about?

>>1740719
Most MMOs don't let you disable EXP gain. I don't want forced level ups when PvPing.

whew barely finished the 50 levels of the battle pass before time ran out. fuck the green weapon skins, they look gay anyways. i had to finish the battle pass in like 3 days because i do the bare minimum in this garbage game

>>1740725
That's nice I guess?

pvp is so dogshit now, much worse than before the expansion

why are they always dancing around it? release fucking bikinis already

>>1742385
You want them to kill the game even faster?

>>1742529
they already released equivalent skins already, like the succubus one, and even the green demon one with underboob. the recent electric one has skinny panties. they already released whore outfits, just with a focus on one part at a time. they already gave in. just go all the way and give us that goon goodness

>>1743209
No thanks. I don't want another Lost Ark brainrot.

>>1743246
>implying thats why that gay game died
why are you lying?

>>1743307
It surely contributed. If you want to coom then you can install that game.

>>1743308
>It surely contributed
No, it's just a symptom of devs not giving a shit.

>>1743431
Selling coomer skins and adding sexualized lolis means the game is in its death throes and they're just trying to milk what little they still can from the remaining mentally ill playerbase.
It is the final nail in the coffin.

>>1743677
Retard, milking whales as unapologetically is the real nail in the coffin. Nobody pays more than those guys.

>>1744602
Real whales swipe for P2W, not some cheap coom skins.

>>1744719
That's exactly my point. Therefore you blaming coomers and calling it the real final nail in the coffin is wrong.

>>1744733
Whales leave when the game is in its death throes since they can no longer flex against scrubs.
Selling coom skins is indeed a last resort.

Who's still playing?

>>1747893
Me! :)

>>1748582
slut

>>1748868
Rude. You better choose your next words carefully...

>>1748582
>>1750963
Look at this slutty little metaslave.

>>1754738
>metaslave
i aint see no spear nigga

>>1764543
>daggers

>>1764827
thats old news boomer bro, did you quit last year or what?

>>1769019
what are you talking about? 90% of people still run daggers
anyway who's still playing this shitheap?

>>1769029
I sold my account like 2 weeks ago, got out with $700 with my f2p account.

Nebula small scale pvp was fun, game got worse after expansion though even if my off-meta class finally became online in it

>>1703633 (OP)
how long does one usually take to level up to whatever they set the max cap to now? are my max-traited purples and boss weapons literally worse now than blue T2's from Talandre? how long do you have to grind to max out the thing they replaced weapon masteries with? does the game still drop down to 20FPS on large-scales? did they release any of the cute costumes from the korean server yet?

I'm finally able to quit after my guild disbanded. The game was basically done when they removed open world bosses and now they're trying to pivot to PvE with no content.

Why would you play this game for its garbage PvE (3 boss raid that will last 9 months kek) when you can play WoW?

>>1770077
Are you pretending that PvP isn't also utter trash? This game has the absolute worst PvP I've ever seen in a MMO and pants-on-head retarded combat mechanics and class balance.

>>1769985
>how long does one usually take to level up to whatever they set the max cap to now?
Like a day, leveling doesn't really exist, sadly.
>are my max-traited purples and boss weapons literally worse now than blue T2's from Talandre?
Nah. T2 blues have higher defenses but lower stats and no set bonuses. You're fine with your gear which you'd upgrade to T2 eventually.
>how long do you have to grind to max out the thing they replaced weapon masteries with?
Many, many months. It's not the focus though since you can grab the important nodes pretty soon. Anything past that are just super tiny bonuses that mostly don't matter.
>does the game still drop down to 20FPS on large-scales?
Yes.
>did they release any of the cute costumes from the korean server yet?
Thankfully not. I would have quit already if they added that gook cancer.

>>1770317
>Are you pretending that PvP isn't also utter trash?
I play MMO PvP for the spectacle and chaos (large scale). If I cared about balanced PvP I wouldn't be playing an MMO.

Class balance becomes more of an issue the smaller scale you go. Boss portals are why 2-2-2 is so dominant.

>>1770077
watch all you retards jump ship to aion 2 when that comes out. or god forbid archeage 2 and chrono odyssey. its the same garbage every time. people will never learn. only the west and japan can make good mmos

>>1771744
NOOOOO you're only allowed to have fun doing esports ready competitive 5v5slop super balanced pvp!!!