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With GW1's 20th anniversary event over it's finally time to start discussing our future plans. We've been doing PvP every so often along with various ZB/ZM quests just watch thread for plans.

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What is DSOAL-GW1?
>When GW was released in 2005, the audio component of Microsoft’s DirectX API was something called DirectSound. DirectSound had a 3D audio component called DirectSound3D, or DS3D, that could pan and amplify/attenuate sound sources based on their position relative to the camera in the game’s 3D world. PC’s with a high-end Creative sound card also had access to EAX, an extension to DS3D with a suite of hardware DSP effects for occlusion, obstruction, reverb, echo, etc. Like most games of its era, GW’s audio system was designed around DirectSound and DS3D, and owners of high-end PCs could get the “definitive” audio experience with EAX.
>All that ended in 2007 with Windows Vista. Vista completely broke DS3D and EAX. Rather than fix it, Microsoft deprecated DirectSound and pushed developers to adopt its new XAudio2 API for future games. With DS3D and EAX broken, GW hasn’t sounded “right” in any version of Windows since XP.

>>1754525 (OP)
Gentlemen, it is time for our next prog. I am open to suggestions but I'd like to continue doing our progs but with a twist to keep things interesting for old and new players. Here is my current proposals.

Another 1 profession only prog where we try to beat all of proph with everyone playing a single profession (no repeat elite skills or secondarys) - I'm thinking either Ele, Ranger, or Warrior depending on how challenging we want to make it.

50/50 Prog, premise of this prog is your bar is split in half. If you are a W/Mo, 4 of your slots must be warrior skills, the other 4 must be monk skills. No attribute skills are considered free space.

Lockout prog, after the end of every mission I will roll a random number between 1-8 whichever number I roll is what skill you are now banned from using for the remainder of the prog. This could mean you lose your elite skill, potentially a res skill, or you could lose something vital like comfort animal.


Next, how did we feel about giving tomes away? I personally enjoyed it during our paraprog and I think it really helped promote build experimentation but I think I gave too many away too quickly, one of my biggest problems with proph/NF is how 25% of all elites are locked in the last few areas so you only get to use them for a mission or 2 and campaign is over, there are many super useful skills also locked away till last outpost which is a shame. I'm proposing 2 systems:

1) After every mission I will hand out a single normal tome but only if we achieve the bonus, for any challenge quests (such as Galrath or Rotscale) I will hand out a single elite tome.

2) After challenge quests I will hand out a normal tome to everyone in party.

If people would prefer no tomes be given away and we go by our standard prog rules, or you have an alternative idea I'm happy to hear it.

DISCUSS.

>looking up salvageable collector mods
>there's this guy called Wain Hughes who gives +20hp staff mod in exchange for 3 charr carvings
>these are the directions to reach him

can I come for the prog on a 19 level ele from pre

>>1754529
What are the typical days and times for these progs? I'm a britbong wageslave who'd like to get involved.

>>1754753
it's over bro us euros are discriminated against... we gotta run our own events... real

>>1754547
this might also interest you

Do we know what Rin looked like Pre-Searing?

>>1755247

>>1755305
Neat, is that some old mockup?

>>1755333
some guy did these years ago

>>1755344
Ah okay, still neat though

>>1754529
Lockout sounds dumb imo, but single prof or 50/50 would be neat if we want to do something more spicy than standard.
As for tomes, I don't think its very necessary in Prophecies, but maybe as a rare, special thing for master level quests like you said (normal tome).

You should set up a schej.it for everyone to put their availability times in (remember to set it to your timezone).

>>1754529
>1 profession
i want to make a mes or warrior
a party of all mes or warrior also sounds funny but mostly i need The PvE Advantage
>50/50
why not both
>lockout
why not all three
losing skills on campaign progress feels kinda bad though. though gives me a funny idea for reverse, something like lose skill access depending on dp. if everyone's on 60% dp, that means everyonle only gets access to 40% of their skills (3).
>tomes
no opinion

i don't know what standard prog rules are. no buying mats, no player trades, no using storage? was there something else
when is prog time, are we allowed to play on it outside whenever prog time is

>>1755390
lose skills depending on dp
lose armor depending on number of deaths

>>1755390
no using storage, no buying runes (gotta pick them up), no PvE only skills, and no skills from future campaigns.

Losing skills on death could be interesting.

>>1755387
Main idea with lockout is to slowly make you adjust your build and plan ahead for what missions you want to bring your best skills on. One of the main things I dislike is how after a certain point in the prog everyone has now unlocked all the best skills and your build is basically the exact same for the next 10 missions, there's also some attribute lines that there's never a good justification to take because all of the good skills are either in different campaigns, or won't be unlocked till you reach ring of fire island - illusion magic is a good example of this.


>>1754753
That's actually the next problem I need to bring up I have recently started a new job which has me working rotating 12 hour shifts this means I am busy every other weekend and every other month I swap from 7AM to 7PM shifts, to 7PM to 7AM shifts. Either we need to plan for 2 days on the prog and rotate between them, or every month we need to change what time we are playing, or just accept I will be missing every other week.

As far as friendly euro times, every single prog I've tried to run friendly euro times (3PM EST) has resulted in no euros showing up or everyone who is showing up would be just as happy to play 4 hours later at 7PM EST.

FILL THIS SCHEDULE OUT AS BEST AS YOU CAN FOR WHEN YOU ARE "TYPICALLY" BUSY.
https://schej.it/e/E9EE9
https://schej.it/e/E9EE9
https://schej.it/e/E9EE9

>>1755452
>I swap from 7AM to 7PM shifts, to 7PM to 7AM shifts
jesus christ how horrifying

>>1754529
On lockouts: I'd also be wary of people shuffling their bars to game it. You should make people ping their bar, then you roll and tell them the locked out skill. In general I'm not a huge fan of lockout because it's gonna suck major ass if you lose something like fire attunement or FGJ and someone else only loses some meme filler skill. You're going to end up with someone getting bricked bars and hurt feelings.
I say no tomes. They devalue skill quests. Only case where i'd accept it is if lockout was voluntary, and you get a tome in compensation. Make it a gamble where you might lose something critical, but you're gaining something ahead of schedule too. Though this will only be done probably early on, because once someones bar is good enough they won't risk it.

>>1755470
It sounds awful but it's not that bad I work 2 on, 2 off, then 3 on, and 3 off. I work about 15~ days a month. The big salary helps as well. Honestly the worst part of it is planning when I can hang out with friends/run guilds. Right now I'm doing the nightshift which has nothing happen 90% of night. So I spent like 10/12 of the hours watching youtube. Unfortunately the computer is monitored and I'm unable to download anything and the work I do is critical so I don't want to risk getting in trouble playing GW on those computers.

Sidenote: https://youtu.be/7kKAdYALL6k?si=5uv3qVTn8rDOb-Gi&t=5679 this was a really good match if you aren't interested in watching the full thing the final 2 minutes at 2:01:30 are awesome.

>>1755488
Yeah that would be the point of doing the lockout after the mission people would ping before mission. Even if you don't lose Fire Attunement running a single attribute line won't be possible entire run, proph has 25 missions which guarantees even if you don't lose Fire Attunement, you will eventually lose all of the good fire magic skills such as rodgorts. I think it'll force people to come up with interesting work arounds - normally you'd never use Ether Prodigy but because you've lost fire attunement and ele attunement it's now the next best elite option and if you're running Ether that changes how you think about what skills you're going to bring.

>>1755507
>I spent like 10/12 of the hours watching youtube
if you ever get into book reading, holler at me

If you could change one elite skills attribute to ANY other attribute, what would it be?

>>1755538
Energy Surge to Inspiration Magic ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

>>1755452
REMEMBER TO CHANGE YOUR TIME ZONE AT THE BOTTOM

>>1755538
Ward Against Harm to earth magic instead of water. I honestly feel like it was a mistake that it was put in water magic to begin with, because prophecies has no earth elite skills, but earth magic line has a ton of ward spells.

I want to make the ultimate ward build. Standard of Courage + Ward Against Elements + Ward Against Harm, +100 armor vs elemental damage is funny.

>>1755538
seven weapons stance to tactics

>>1755538
mantra of recovery to inspiration magic

>>1755538
Seven Weapon Stance to Expertise

>>1755652
wtf elite skills to other professions!
energy surge to energy storage!

>>1755452
roka am I mixing you up with someone or are you on here as free from 9pm to 9am your time

>>1755716
that would be a very strange timeframe wouldn't it
no i am pacific time, it's noon to midnight

>>1755572
>I honestly feel like it was a mistake that it was put in water magic to begin with
Excuse me, Elementalist Aziure worked many years to perfect this spell.

I think it's kind of neat that Ranger has a decent amount of skills that have to do with dealing or augmenting their damage with fire/burning condition despite being a nature themed profession. It's kind of rare to see and the only other game I can think of with something similar is Diablo 2 and the Druid.

>>1755886
Rangers are tree huggers, but they're educated tree huggers, so they know all about controlled burns.

>Nature rituals did not always summon spirits. At the original release of Prophecies, a nature ritual approximated an environment effect that was cast by a player and lasted for the ritual's duration.
>Only one nature ritual could be in effect at a time, with the most recently cast ritual replacing any earlier one. Furthermore, as there was no physical spirit to kill, nature rituals could not be ended prematurely except by casting another or by using a now-removed skill.
Unnatural Signet (alpha version): Mesmer Illusion Magic Signet. Remove the most recent Nature Ritual. All of your skills are disabled for 60...36...30 seconds.
>Before this skill was removed, Nature Rituals did not summon spirits, lasted indefinitely and had an effect range over the entire map.
never knew this shit
>>1755886
I feel like it's not all that out there and mystical, it's more like "put fire or poison or spikes on your arrows or traps" where fire's just one option
only outliers are the two conflagrations

>>1755886
everquest druid gets two fire spells at level 1 lol

>>1755452
I don't like the lockout idea very much, but the 50/50 one sounds really fun since it forces you to think harder about what to bring from your secondary prof and will motivate people to experiment with their builds more.

Also I'm the euro who played with you guys during the Factions and Paragon prog, I remember we first tried for 3PM EST and on a different weekday schedule but we ended up losing half the US players if not more, so I decided to join you for the 7PM EST schedule instead since I was the only EU player anyway.

It worked for a bit but having to wake up(combined with my health problems) at 2 AM to play with you until 4-5 in the morning eventually wore me out and I couldn't complete both progs. Looks like we're getting more EU bros (fun) signing up this time around though, and the majority is available earlier on weekends so maybe I'll be able to play to completion this time around if the schedule is more EU friendly

>>1756258
why'd every single one of you fuckers make a female char that playthrough

>>1756292
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqc-nwhbexY

90% sure clio is a /vm/gw tourist

Who was it that told me to kill myself in the previous thread?

>>1756331
>>1756390
Wasn't me, but I'll third the request that you kill yourself so we don't have to see your eceleb bullshit.

>>1756390
might have been me

>>1756421
>>1756428
I'll give you an update when DSP decides to play GW
>snort

>>1756433
kill yourself idiot and fuck the shit off honestly God (PBUH)

>>1756331
>>1756433

>>1756457
>>1756471
Getting some bad apples in these posts, can I get any guild officer to help me out?

>>1756292
I make male character, I am gay. I make female character, I am gooner. There is no winning.

I wanted a rit merc hero and I liked the female rit armor more than the male.

>>1756258
Yeah so far schedule seems to be favoring an EU friendly time which is surprising we'll see if it panes out. For people who see the current timecard has 8 people don't be discouraged, we never have this many show up lol.

Additional thing we'll have to consider is how we're going to do this, Saturday 3 PM EST sounds good so far, but I will be busy every other Saturday, so we can either do a rotation of Saturday game then a Thursday game, or we just accept every other Saturday I won't be there and one of you naga's is responsible for organizing the day. (Starting in June I will be working day shift again this won't be a problem if the prog goes to July)

>>1756433
>wtf all my party members are dead and there's no way for me to revive them how am I suppose to beat this mission this game sucks
he would get filtered at great wall mission guaranteed.

>>1756507
I put myself as tentative during the day on weekends because I try to have a real life. I'll make every effort to be there but obviously weekends at 3pm are usually when social activities are happening and I may not be there at times.
I'd say just pick a day once a week and those who fail to show just have to catch up on their own by next week.

>>1756507
back in my day, it was playing as a girl that made you gay

>>1756581
you're so real for this one bro

Almost done

Anyone have any ideas why I'm suddenly getting 22fps max? Usually have 100+fps steady

>>1757042
Are you near Fisherman's Haven?

Why aren't you a Monk?

>>1757126
I am

>>1757126
I don't like healing in games, and smite monk isn't that good

>>1757126
imagine proph prog and the single profession is monk

>>1756536
Yeah don't worry I understand lol

>>1757648
Necromancer or Mesmer would be the most miserable would be competing over who gets to fuck the corpse, and rupts, monk would just be sorta boring.

>>1755538
Barrage to Spear Mastery

>>1757126
I am

>>1757126
why are you a monk?

>>1757913
They used to be important in pve.
and i got 12 character slots

>>1757921
All my niggas Resto until there's a hex.

>>1757037
how many vaettirs had to pay with their lives to allow you this indulgence?

>>1757126
>Play monk
>Wow, this is fun. Healing in MMOs is actually great!
>Decide I am now a healer main
>Play any other game
>Healing is fucking miserable
ArenaNet deceived me into thinking healing was fun. I will never get back the hours I spent playing Mercy, Psychopomp, or Soraka.

>>1758152
prot is such a swagged out attribute line

>>1758097
that's what shatter hex is for :^)

>>1758312
and loses to me pressing 12345

When is this game going back on steam sale?

>>1757913
>>1758097
playing prot monk and saving peoples asses with perfectly placed godmode enchants is some of the most satisfying gameplay this game has to offer
healbotting NPCs is bland as hell though, and that's all rit can do unless you want afk spirit gameplay

>>1758377
Playing healer for NPCs is so fucking AIDS because they will mutastack on top of each other, so you can't tell where aggro is going. I wind up tunnel visioned on the party panel just red barring them, which is not fun at all. Also heroes will sometimes forget that combat is happening without a player damage dealer attacking stuff constantly.

You're never going to have trouble finding people to do zv/zm with, though. Even PvP is semi alive nowadays, thanks to community reddit organizing.

>>1758152
A lot like more than a full survivor title worth of em.

Apparently there are skills in Factions that scale with the faction rep things? Can you level those up outside of PVP and if so how long does it take

>>1758577
>Can you level those up outside of PVP
Sure, whatever gives you kurz/luxon faction, like vanquishing with respective blessings.

>>1758611
https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Allegiance_rank

You only need to hit r6 to max it out. Consider saving your faction for a Faction Support week before turning it in.

>>1758622
Why did you quote me? Do you have a deathwish?

Have any of you folks solo'd (with heroes) UW on HM?

I'm so sick of every dual mod I get being fucking STUPID

>>1758771
You were never going to use an Inspiration offhand regardless, but +5 AR is top tier.

>>1758775
>You were never going to use an Inspiration offhand regardless

Wow thanks tips

>>1758353
Probably the summer sale. Starts June 26th.

>>1758662
I know people have.
Personally, I can't beat Dhuum when I try. (I don't use glitches)

>>1758818
Did they all do it by glitching Dhuum? Good on you for giving it a go, though.

>>1759120
I would assume there are people that do it without glitching.
I lack the experience and skill with controlling my heroes that it would require.

>buying gott 3e ea
cheapasses or is the gravy train just actually over

>>1759632
it's so over bro I remember selling them shits for 9e ea it's over it's so fucking over

>>1759636
That's unfortunate... What the hell are little noobies meant to do for some easy money then?

best place to farm the bone charms this week for gott?

>>1759660
Leave Leviathan Pits into Gyala Hatchery. Kill the first three groups of Outcasts on the way tot eh right then zone into Rhea's Crater. There's a bunch of Outcasts in easily manageable groups there. You might want to ignore the monk and ritulatist bosses unless you think you can out-heal them.

>>1758662
A long while ago I was working on a HM heros only UW run without cons did about 50+ runs and I very nearly managed to perfect the strategy for beating four horsemen before I finally lost the motivation to keep trying and stopped.

There's lots of minor spots and areas that are easy to fuck up on by pure accident and I discovered a lot of weird stuff/strategies to make clearing some quests more consistent.

>>1759632
>>1759636
9e was always an overinflated price. The price of gott always drops heavily during big events like this with lots of returning players. They'll probably bounce back to 4e, if not you can always try to gamble with opening them, at 3e each GotT it's almost worth it more to try and roll for red rock candy/summoning stones.

anyone manage to get guild wars launcher + the mapping mod crap to work or have an idea of how to?

I've managed to make launching the game launch toolbox fine

>>1759867
you just drop the texmod stuff in the mods tab

>>1759902
shit

Don't forget to fill this out if you haven't already. You don't *need* to fill it out to join our prog. But if 9 people show up for prog the people who signed up on the schedule will be given reserved spots on our main party.

https://schej.it/e/E9EE9

Consensus seems to be leaning toward doing a 50/50 prog so here's the rules of our prog this time:

The usual rules apply:
1) No using storage (you can deposit, mats, but no withdrawing anything).
2) No using rune trader, you can trade amongst prog members if someone gets a good rune
3) No PvE only skills

New rules for 50/50 prog:

4) Your skill bar may only contain up to 4 skills per class. If you are a W/Mo you may have up to 4 warrior skills, the other 4 skills must be Monk. No attribute are considered free space.
5) There will be a series of prog challenges which will reward 1 normal tome to every prog member upon successful completion. These challenges are
-Defeating level 28 dwarven boss before reaching Droknars (see pic)
-Villainy of Galrath
-Rotscale
-Defeating ROX
-Tomb of Primeval
You may alternatively trade in 3 normal tomes for a single elite tome.

How do people feel about this rule set? Specifically the tomes, are the challenges acceptable? Is the elite tome too much? Is there other challenges I should add?

Also how did people feel about adding an additional rule of if you die during the prog you lose 1 skill on your bar for rest of the prog?

>>1760010
Also forgot to mention tomorrow is Heros Ascent Zaishen Combat mission and this week is double HA bonus if people are interested tomorrow at like 7-7:30 PM EST we will do some HA runs. It's preferable you come on one of the builds in pic (especially monks!) but if you'd like to run something else that's fine too just check with me so I can see what we are missing from our comp.

>>1760010
I'm anti-tome desu, especially if you're allowed to tome in from later campaigns
>Defeating level 28 dwarven boss before reaching Droknars (see pic)
>-Villainy of Galrath
>-Rotscale
>-Defeating ROX
>-Tomb of Primeval
this seems like the meta will just be to do 3 (beacon's perch run, galrath, rotscale) to get your one elite for kryta through like the southern shiverpeaks which will kill variety and buildcrafting. also blows if you miss a session and everyone else is AOTLing and 100bing the rest of the game
>adding an additional rule of if you die during the prog you lose 1 skill
also lean against this for the same reasons, especially if it's individual deaths and not like a mission wipe
ironman unlocked 4:4 skillbars will mean you'll always have to run some weird off-balance shit, that's probably enough of a constraint

>Doing the ZB HM on Drakar Lake
>One of the loot drops is a daggers with no req and 3-6 damage, so it's a starting weapon
Dafuq? Is loot dropping way below monster level at random a thing? My guesses are it was a bug or a spirit dropped it, but to my knowledge spirits don't drop loot.

>>1760052
What's the skin? Might be valuable.

>>1760040
Yeah tomes are something I've always felt sorta mixed about which is why I was in favor of losing skills on death because I do agree with you that people will set up their meta skill bar and never have reason to adjust/experiment again for rest of campaign. But it also sucks to have so many skills that are only available in last 10% of game, or have some attribute lines be near worthless because they are missing a single skill or 2 to be viable. Maybe limiting the tomes to proph only would be a solid idea.

You're probably right about the 4:4 bars being weird enough however. I'll let a few more people weigh in before I decide either way.

>>1760010
It's gonna be a no to elite tomes for me dawg.
If we're doing tomes, I'd say leave it at Galrath and Rotscale only
losing skills also sucks so no to that

>>1760062
Korambits. They are also plain white.

>>1760010
what normally occurs during sessions
can we play on our own/with others in the prog outside sessions
though i dunno if thats actually feasible. are there actually quests that give any significant gold? i'm so used to swimming in money...

>tomes for challenges
why not tomes every mission
>elite tomes for challenges
seems fine
one on ascension seems cool thematically
>death causes skill loss for rest of prog
i like the idea of death causing some loss but i dunno about the entirety of the prog. maybe something like, each death causes 1 skill on the bar to be banned for the next mission, and after that next mission you get it back.
i think i am going to take off armor on death for duration of mission. that seems funny. disabling skills on death for duration of mission also seems funny but hard to remember.

>>1760112
>what normally occurs
meet at x time, play through the story and do skill quests and shit until people have to go. I think we used to do 1 progress day 1 fuck around on sidequests day but it usually doesn't get the same turnout
>outside sessions
there will probably be a bunch of quests we don't do, and you can farm if you'd like. the constraints end up fun, makes random drops more valuable and social when you share stuff

actually come to think of it, why not a general rolling disable? if the problem is stagnation at the end of every mission everyone gets a roll and whatever number they get that skill gets disabled for the next mission and gets returned to them after that. this wouldn't be a problem even if it hit attunement or aura of restoration, and it would apparently be the opposite of a problem if it hit the elite.

wow theres really not a lot of skills in just prophecies

>>1760192
good idea
damn you don't get 4/4 attunements until either sanctum cay (quests) or droks (skill trainers). was gonna say you can just swap elements if that gets whacked

>>1760229
i have no idea how playing prog normally feels like but looking at all the skills not available feels bad. how did people play the game before factions? it really must've been only warriors that could run droks. can only imagine a skill tome every mission...

>>1760248
we already did an ironman prophecies run without a rule making people use the other 40% of their skills and it was completely fine. the overall skill pool was enough to sustain interesting gvg and ha metas back then and a lot of later skills are broken or poorly designed by comparison (the flail problem)
and yeah you'd get wammo runners with a bunch of survival skills

>>1760248
In general it's not that bad but as someone who's run a proph prog 3 times I need to add a few new rules to keep it interesting for both myself and other long time players the progs can sometimes get a bit too predictable otherwise. Some attribute lines in proph are kinda lacking or don't get any good skills which sucks (Smiting Prayers, Illusion Magic) or others lack a single skill that otherwise synergizes really well (Beast Mastery, Hammer etc...).

>>1760112
>can we play on our own/with others
Yes thats completely fine
For skills I would keep a spreadsheet with what skills were disabled. I thought about going for a "remove 1 piece of armor" on death idea, but I figured it'd be kinda boring since it would be easy to get enough mats/gold to just buy another piece.

People seem to be leaning toward no tomes so I think I'll not do it this prog, the 4:4 bars should be enough of an interesting challenge.

Our current schedule time seems to be leaning toward 3 PM on Sundays

Also reminder for HA at 7:30 PM EST >>1760022

>>1760378
that guy's roll idea was based, you can /roll 8 once or twice after every mission
the worse your build the more likely you are to die, and if you play like a pussy or never change your good bar you'll never have to change

>>1760010
I don't like losing skills on death
ironman and the 50/50 skill split is enough for me to keep it fresh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j1yFvQFs8Y
i am losing brain cells
i should probably just stop listening

>>1760541
LS1 was really bad in general GW2's story is REALLY bad. But LS1 especially Scarlet was an terribly written villain who's story sounds more like it came from a fanfiction website than """professional""" writers. Seriously the more you read about her the dumber it gets.

>At the ripe age of 8 she meets a master Norn smith and learns and masters his lifes work in under a year
>Then she manages to find an expert charr sniper and demonlitionist who's skills he's developed over his entire life she masters in a single year
>Then she travels to the most racist and intellectually superior species and attends their colleges and finishes what some asura dedicate their life to, in a single year, oh and she gets 3 degrees because she's just that smart.
>then she meets expert alchemists and masters their entire trade in under a year
>Then she goes CRAZY but not in a way that would mentally impair or otherwise negatively affect her (This is anets favorite bad guy trope to reuse, they do this EVERY season without fail)
>and then later she manages to convince EXTREMELY racist and hostile species to somehow work together

This isn't even counting the cut storylines with her, or how the community still can't even agree with why she went crazy to begin with because later storybits in LS2 contradict LS1.

LS3/PoF/LS4 was the only time the GW2 story wasn't complete fucking garbage which is something everyone agrees on.

Anyway I'm done sperging about GW2, if you want to talk about GW2 there should be a GW2 thread on /vg/

>>1759867
Just use Daybreak, it has everything you need

>>1760559
>go to /gw2g/
i just lost more braincells

>>1760541
>>>/vg/gw2g

Have fun. Don't come back.

male or female monk armor?

>>1760630
female monk without armor

>>1760541
Fuck off

We had a discussion last thread about completing Factions missions with only Henchmen and available skills.

I have been using the Factions Henchmen for all my mainland stuff so far and I gotta say, they have been vastly improved.

>>1761607
Yeah current factions henchmen are based. They're more than adequate to clear NM missions

can I join the damn prog on ldoa ele spirits answer me dumbass

>>1761678
I don't personally have any issue with it, though you may want to gimp your attributes a bit so you aren't nuking level 6 mobs lol.

I have finally finished gearing and setting up my eleway team. Here's what final builds look like.

I managed to stick Blood ritual onto my ST for extra energy management to cover for bad situations, my ST also has a soul reaping staff to help manage energy.

I loved Stolen Speed on this build too much to drop it and this build needed a tiny bit more directed healing so I made my illusion mesmer into a healer. Interestingly I discovered you can do some funky stuff with fast casting monk, Restore life on this build has a 2 second cast time, and with HSR you can potentially have 1 second res's. Which is absolutely busted with Restore life. He is also using a soul reaping wand.

Also we are going to do HA if anyone wants to join

>>1761898
do they automatically steal ele attunement?

>>1761988
Hero usage of arcane mimicry has some interesting quirks. Hero's will only arcane mimic skills they have attributes in. So as long as no 2 heroes are using similar attribute lines they will ALL steal ele attunement. Heros also steal skill based on whats on the right side of the bar. That's why my fire ele has his elite on the far right side of the bar. Otherwise ele attunement ele steals whatever was arcane mimic'd (in this case his own elite)

>>1761898
I'd be interested to know how this does in enchantment removal heavy areas

>>1762068
Yeah I plan on trying to beat WoC with it, but enchant removal is also my concern. I'm hoping that magnetic aura + swirling aura will be enough cover enchants I'm half tempted to have my Me/Mo drop sig of rejuv for shield guardian for another AoE cover enchant.

The player is intended to be a PI mesmer, and you should be mainly targetting necro's to prevent any strips from happening so it should be fine as long as you don't fuck up.

2 monks in HA that look the same gonna assume there the same guy but imagine getting wrecked by a bunch of nubs

>>1761898
>Restore life on this build has a 2 second cast time, and with HSR you can potentially have 1 second res's
I used this logic with HB N/Mo with the Mhenlo icon res that does an AoE heal. What I discovered was that the best picked touch skills on heroes' bars will often go awry. I might try it again now that we have 'of the Monk' stuff, since half the problem was Olias trying to rez people when HB went down and spending 4 seconds casting instead of 2.

>>1762296
Yeah, but in this case it's a Me/Mo so fast casting will always make the skill 2 seconds. It's just a 40% chance with HSR of being 1 second.

HB is cool idea though. Theoretically you could turn this into a near instant cast res lol.

When are w doing HA bros

>>1762423
we held it for like 5ish games last night fought 2 real teams 2nd team accused us of running alts and cheating. the guy that helped us just said he seen we had 2 henchies so he helped us lol

>>1762581
Why am i always gone when this happens?

>>1762635
same b lol I been sitting on r7 for like a year now and I'm only missing a couple hundred

any presearing tycoons here happen to have a +1 marksmanship rune or a charr salvage kit for a brother

Do we want to start the prog this Sunday?

Also what is everyone thinking about playing for this prog? Consider your secondary carefully.

>>1763651
mite play monk for the first time ever
think I'm a little too retarded to prot, but I can redbar or abandon my responsibilities to be a dps caster with some utility

>>1763651
Warrior/Necromancer
>I thought I told you to consider your secondary carefully.
Change my mind then, and no, I'm not doing ranger.

>>1763678
w/n seems good for plague touch, weaken armor, mop, etc
could also go /me to help out with energy and more shutdown on e.g. enemy monks you're targeting

whats the rundown on "farming" - like dervish soling packs of mobs

vs

just gaming and vanquishing as normal

Is it worth trying solo farming in these spots on a dervish or do you just play the game, run some dungeons etc

basically, whats the "make plat" guide

>>1763781
highest return/effort is gott farming
https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Nicholas_the_Traveler/Cycle
every week you can farm a set of these (or buy one in kamadan), you get 5 gifts which easily sell for 4e each, so about 75 plat in an hour, or 50ish in 10 minutes
other easy return on effort solo farms I've done are toc farm during free fow entry week like right now (https://gwpvx.fandom.com/wiki/Build:R/A_Whirling_Defense_Farmer), derv vos feather farming when the price of feathers is high, vaettir farming for gold unidentified items and festival drops, raptor farming on a derv or warrior during the anniversary

>>1763651
memo
or wammo
actually i have no idea what secondary would be good for warrior, feels like they're always out of energy
maybe mer
actually since i thought of it now and will forget later, are there any other kinds of progs? could a prog for HM be made interesting with some ruleset?

>>1763889
I tried to gauge interest in a Winds of Change HM prog but reception was lukewarm.

no HA tonight?

>980k kurz to own a town
>MINIMUM 17.5m luxon to get a town
can kurdicks lose some fucking abs already

>>1763651
I will most likely pick Mo/E
it's the only prof I haven't played properly yet

>>1763896
Yeah I'd be interested in doing it personally but reception has always been lukewarm and it falls apart after few missions. Lemme know if you end up doing it can't promise I'll show up for every time though.

>>1763904
You're a day+ late, HA ZC was on Tuesday

How easy is it to find a group for the elite zones?

>>1764687
its double fame tho and im not the only one wanting to run it

>>1764709
Unless it's a ZB or a special event, probably not easy.
If you want to do something you can just ask in the thread and we can put it together.

So are we starting prog this weekend or not? Send like something that should be better communicated

>>1765473
first time?
also unless we speedrun through, first session is probably mostly solo as people do presearing. probably do want to queue leaving together though, because you get to pvp (https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ascalon_Academy_(PvP_battle) )

>>1764432
There's some kurz guild that will field a bunch of bots to AFK and sabotage AB any time they're in danger of losing their towns.

>>1765716
Typical kurzick nigger behavior

>>1765473
Yeah I meant to make another post but then I fell asleep and got wiped out by work.

We'll start prog on Sunday at 3:00 PM EST as per our schedule. Goal of the prog will be to complete pre searing + do great northern wall.

IF YOU PLAN TO SPEND MORE THAN AN HOUR IN PRE SEARING, YOU MAY WANT TO LOGIN EARLY.

>>1765857
Fine, it's not like I wanted to play pre-searing with other people anyway... :(

>>1765863
The first hour will be in pre searing, but I just want to make sure we all leave at the same time, so anyone wanting to spend more than an hour in pre searing needs to login early. 2nd hour will be skill quests and great northern wall.

prog time will be 3 PM EST to 5 PM EST.

What class would be best for deathless irongwamm? I feel like ranger because of a mix of being durable, being able to sit in the backline like a coward, and decent build variety. Paragon would obviously be good if you can tolerate running imbagon/HR the entire time.

>>1765865
Monk is technically best
Dervish is theoretically best
Mesmer is actual best.

Paragon is best at supporting hero parties however. Not so great at surviving.

>>1765865
Paragon.
Even more stupidly durable and sits at the back as well.

>>1765866
What makes you say monk is 'technically' the best? It seems like one of the worst choices, since you've got caster armor, enemy AI hates healers, and hero AI is retarded if you're not playing a damage dealer.

>Mesmer is actual best
Mesmer seems like a good choice, since you can direct shutdown and do a bunch of damage.

>>1765877
You don't have to worry about hero AI fucking up and not healing you/prioritizing healing someone else over you or using the wrong spell on you. You also have easy access to a lot of really powerful healing spells such as spirit bond or even protective bond/spirit which you can prioritize yourself quite easily and pre-protting yourself to make it very difficult to kill you.

That's why it's only technically the best. As long as you are confident in your own ability there's absolutely no reason you should die as a monk against PvE enemies.

Dervish is theoretically the best because it has the highest armor in the game and a shit ton of defensive skills/spells that should theoretically make you impossible to kill.

Mesmer is actual best because as you mentioned the shutdown is just crazy, as long as you're aware of who the threat is in any engagement you can easily shut it down. But beyond that those inspiration stances are absolutely insane if you plan ahead and can make you quite difficult to kill. I normally don't bring them but if you're trying to do a deathless irongwamm I'd seriously consider it just for added protection.

>>1764710
Though about it, how about after our prog on Sunday we'll do a HA run for people interested. It'll be at around 5 PM EST

btw you can always plan HA stuff here as well you don't need me to set it up :P even if you only have 1 person show up, 2 people easily crush all bot/single man teams, maybe even claim halls if nobody is in there.

How much of a difference does the anniversary monk hammer make for build variety? Ended up with two monks a while back, a Canthan monk with the hammer and one in pre-searing

>>1766853
it's pretty awesome, slap the +5 strength on it too and you hit absolutely hilarious numbers
if you're bored inna pvp you can swap to it and hit casters for 60-80 just with autoattacks that shi is funny ahh hell

>>1765857
wtf 1 hour in presearing!!!!!!!! i thought presearing was long. big shock...
guess ill start playing today or tomorrow then

>start playing Everquest
>can only memorize 8 spells at a time
bros...

>>1767279
you can spend hours in pre, explore, level, get a bunch of skills, or you can walk outside of ascalon city, do 1 quest for your primary profession, map back and forth between ashford abbey, do 1 secondary quest, and leave
I'd rec doing at least the 4 skill quests per profession before leaving

>>1767393
don't listen to him get LDOA and you'll be all the rage in the prog everyones gonna look up to you cus you got the most hp and shit you'll be THE guy honestly just trust me on this one b

Anyone going to run Necro primary in this prog?

>>1767612
yes

ablublublublublublub
heeelp I'm drowning

how does glimmering mark work? it's a hex that continually applies the blind condition?

>>1769598
>Elite Hex Spell. (10 seconds.) Deals 5...21...25 damage each second to target and adjacent foes. Inflicts Blindness [sic] on foes using attack skills
use a skill->reup blind

If i were to run some extra quests ahead of prog, which should i do and which should I hold off on?

>>1769645
don't leave pre yet, otherwise you're good to do anything

>>1769598
It ticks damage every second. If a target is using an attack skill when a damage tick occurs, they're blinded. It's possible to sneak in fast-activating attack skills between ticks and not get blinded.

>>1769901
congrats mai!!!

What primaries/secondaries are people running for prog? Also how long do sessions usually run for?

>>1769961
I'm running W/N and sessions are usually about two hours.

>>1769961
R/W

>>1769961
Mo/E

>>1769961
mo/me
and a couple hours maybe

>>1769961
W/Mo the classic

Usually no more than 2 hours we are doing pre searing first so if you need to skip the first hour this time you can

we got out of pre (including some incidental pvp), did some skill questin, then finished the first mission
if you wanna join us it'd take an hour or less to bumrush your way through, we're gonna be at (seared) fort ranik next time
also bls post if anyone has a cap of us at sir tydus waiting to leave, I forgot to take one in the rush to queue

I do not care for The Desolation's mandatory wurm mechanic.

>>1771624
>game about variety in skill bars and party composition
>how about you play 15% of the game where everyone uses the same 6-7 skills
shit is cancer

>>1771634
At least they learned from it with stuff like Curse of the Nornbear and made it optional. It really doesn't help that the models are so big I can't tell what the fuck is going on.

Best color for ritualist luxon armor? Thinking either the OG tan color or just white.

>>1771678
sounds right

>post-prog thinkering time
>do math on what mats are/n't important
>none of it matters cause next armor is droks which is final
>look through skill trainers
>none of it matters cause ~all skills are obtained through quests
>look through elites
>there aren't that many and ~all of them are on ring of fire
>

>>1771704
There's a good number of skills you can get early via cap sigs, so keep that in mind too. But usually the proph trainers come in two types. One that is usually in the main story path that offers the skills from the quests in case you missed them, and then another type of trainer that is off the beaten path and offers ~2 skills per prof that aren't from quests.
Also armor upgrades exist at pretty much each major town. There's 3 tiers between what you can get at ascalon and droks

>>1771678
white or black+silver

>>1771704
next armor is beetletun you nerd

Which way, Ascalon man?

>>1772163

>>1772163
The twink on the left looks juicy

>>1771704
Like others have said, main city skill trainers don't have new skills. It's the small outposts you have to find which have unique rare skills. Also please buy armor in bettlerun I beg of you, I am not res-ing you because you got oneshot by hydra's for the 20th time in the desert.

>>1771704
put that autism to work for our drops
become the regional key man, get those chest rolls going for runes and mods

im burned out bros perhaps it's time to take some time off to get the spark again

>>1772411
I took a few weeks off after the anniversary. Was nice.

>>1772411
Yeah. The natural state of the game is that everything you do is kindof a steady grind forwards, even just getting from one place to another. The way it works itself out for me is that I play with GW1 in my rotation for about a month on and a month off. When I play I usually choose a stopping point like finishing a campaign or acquiring something specific from zaishen/balthazar rewards to take the next break. It makes it so that the pace of progression and the inherent grind doesn't dull the game so quickly, and when i get back to it I know where to pick up.

>>1772411
>>1772487
yeah (pve) gw doesn't lend itself well to clock-in interminable grind. play a campaign, do some experimentation, accomplish something, finish something, come back later

chat is this true

>>1772657
what were the builds?

>>1772657
ranger ai is nowhere near as much of an issue as melee
you need ims, shadowsteps, whatever and it still doesn't really fix the problem of them swapping targets and spending all their time running around

>>1772657
Ranger heroes are perfectly fine, just need to flag them to have line of sight if there are obstructions

>>1772657
Necro isn't a "support" profession. They are really good at it though. Aside from minion mastering, you can also run damage no problem

>>1772809
This, my ranger hero is only a few % dmg done behind my dom mesmer hero

>>1772836
which build do you use on the ranger?

>>1772908
just something simple and quick I threw together
12 in marksmanship and expertise and 3 in resto

>>1772411
I've found the best way to deal with burnout is to change what you're doing (eg: maybe try some PvP if you've been doing PvE all this time) if you're interested in still playing, but true burnout there's no harm in taking a break. Come back in October, that's always a fun holiday to play during. I expect this proph prog will probably take us about 3~ months to get through so we'll probably do a factions prog on a different ruleset later this year, keep your eye out for that sometimes weird progs can make for interesting new gameplay.

>>1772657
When you said "spirits pulls his necro out from time to time" I instantly knew what build you linked. And while that build is indeed pretty crazy - I actually think rit support is way better and more pleasant to play I've included 3 builds in this screenshot.

The top build I use on my hero for a paragon heavy party Dark Fury and Mark of Fury are godly adrenaline heavy teams. Elite can be whatever you want, I run disenchantment because my paragon heroes don't have many strips. If you are running mainly rangers/derv or assassins you might want to go heavier in curses, drop order of pain + dark fury for MoP + barbs and go for Order of Vamp

The middle build is intended for party comps with 4 or more physicals (or in petway teams) I'd personally recommend getting a fast casting staff or wand just to make order of vamp less miserable to cast. If you play this build well you can get away with having a monk play prot instead of heal.

But the best build to run out of these 3 if you are a player would be the rit build. This build works best with 2-3 melees to support with spirit Siphon you can easily maintain 3 GDW and SoH while doing very respectable damage.


so tl;dr
top build for warrior/paragon heavy partys
middle build for 4+ physicals
bottom build for 2-3 physicals.
>>1772665 I assume cups linked the middle build. I don't know what the Necro MM build would of been.

>>1772657
>>1772809
Like others have said it's actually not that bad, you'll have to flag occasionally (especially in Kaineng) but ranger/para heros are generally not too bad about obstructions, put them on Fight and you can guide them into targeting stuff not obstructed easier.

>>1772944
Are you playing TaO or running EBSoH or a curse necro/splinter weapon rit on that team? Or running Favorable Winds/Winnowing on another hero? I play bow spam ranger and usually I have to play pretty efficiently to keep up with my dom heroes, I can't imagine a hero ranger would be doing as well esp since toolbox doesn't track bleed damage and you're running throw dirt+antidote sig. Seriously, drop throw dirt the heroes will run straight into the enemy and die to use it. I recommend putting Savage Shot on the bar, but if you're afraid they'll be competing with dom mes for rupts, Body Shot or Keen Arrow are also really good.

Absolute Based choice running Expert Dexterity though. Love that skill, sadly never have reason to run it.

>>1772950
funny enough i didn't have any of those builds just random shit i have saved over the years and posted them all so he could get some ideas and i really don't know necro well its why i told him to ask you guys

>>1772958
>the heroes will run straight into the enemy and die to use it
he has it disabled to micro it

Is this worth anything?

>>1773308
No.

>>1773308
>>1773316
not so fast

>>1773308
If you could find the right buyer. I'd shove it on one of those ranger heroes you never use for safe keeping.

>>1773319
Who tf is buying hornbows

>>1773358
the one he has is kinda cool
if he finds a collector it's maybe worth a couple arms, but if it was like 5e I'd buy it

>>1773367
How many arms?

>nick cycles july 7: fetid carapaces
>prog rules don't ban trading with other players
>prog rules do ban using rune trader
damn...

>>1773381
who knows, you'd have to find a collector. some guy in the kamadan trade archive wanted 4a for a q10 a couple months ago
>>1773384
>prog rules don't ban trading with other players
they don't? I know we can trade with party members but I don't think you could pay a derv tips to run you to droks for example

>>1773388
>The usual rules apply:
>1) No using storage (you can deposit, mats, but no withdrawing anything).
>2) No using rune trader, you can trade amongst prog members if someone gets a good rune
>3) No PvE only skills
could buy a lot of things with a gift or ten. the real problem after that is not being in kamadan. with enough time there's runners that appear in LA.

>>1773427
The point of prog is to play like you're on a new character, not to try to game the loose rules so that you can play like you normally do.

>>1773427
if the usual rules apply, the other campaigns were ironman-y too
like there's not a rule saying you have to find a fair deal at market value, a lot of people are rich and nice and would give you an elite tome for free or cheap, but I don't think it's fair for someone to be using esurge or ineptitude already

>>1773428
>>1773434
desu i have never played guild wars "correctly", i think i have only one character that's done all the missions of a campaign and it's only one campaign and that was only last year with ZMs. every other character has been run in some capacity. i have no idea how i had the money to buy runs but that's what i did. "new character" for me means "buy runs". new character and not buy stuff is a strange new world. the "fresh"/"ironman" exists only as a theoretical.
i was hoping to buy runes or interesting weapons. though i dunno if that changes anything even if i got it. i guess sup runes are way too cheap these days. 100 for a sup rune compared to 500 for rune of holding. on the other hand having 3 sup runes on a lvl 12 character sounds very funny...

>>1773449
>i have never played guild wars "correctly"
I don't get it, if you can have the experience of buying runs and maxing out whenever you want, why would you not take one of the only opportunities to play with limitations in a group that will give you those runes and weapons randomly as they're found, so you get naturally nudged towards some variety
it's not like gear in gw is mandatory to make things work in gw, it just gives you a little more damage or efficiency

>>1773449
Resist the urge and play it the old school way with us. Prophecies is fun specifically because it drip feeds you skills and you're changing up your build every mission.
Playing with drops means you are excited every time you see a blue an a purple drop. It might be a +17% ench melee weapon that the casters fight over or a poison mod for your bow that makes you lean into condi ranger rather than interrupts.

>>1773454
i don't see the same risks as you guys do; my point isn't to make things normal or powerful, it's less about results and more thinking around what systems mean and thus coming to understand the system. e.g. interest in runes and weapons is a result of noticing nick cycle may be inside prog time, 3 sup runes on a sub-20 char sounds funny as a result from runes being available. i have no idea if it's any good, maybe that just means everything dies in one spell. but it sounds similar enough to single profession or 50/50 mandates.
with this i found it's possible to get a small equipment pack in pre in ~30 minutes. 30 minutes to make equivalent of 2.5k is pretty good. is it too good? i dunno. now that i know it it may not be so interesting to do if there's a next time though.

>>1773471
yeah I get that, but it's a letter/spirit of the law thing
I don't think there are too many more of those 50 flowers=pack things left, probably the most egregious would be farming collector items for a 40/40 set and using it the rest of the game and spending a couple hours solo farming high-mat trader items and selling them, then buying keys and spamming chests
the reason the gott thing is strange is that nick items aren't inherently valuable, you aren't getting them to open for the 0.3% odds of getting a weapon you want. it's just about p2p trading and the value a third party ascribes to it, so it seems like it ought to implicitly be banned by the system if you reason it out from first principles

I just don't like the idea of trading in prog with people outside of prog. Just don't feel right.

>>1773471
>3 sup runes on a sub-20 char
That's literally going to leave you with 1 health until you're, like, level 10.

>>1773478
>>1773479
I would think getting the GotTs and using them would be fine, but not trading them for stuff outside the prog.

>>1773481
Yeah I have zero issue with grinding for gotts and using what they open into. I do have an issue with selling the gotts for 25e and then selling the ecto for 100k and buying a run to droks and getting a full gearset

>>1773478
>spoiler 1
i feel that happens without farming though. areas seem to drop enough to go to all the collectors simply by doing quests and killing everything in the way.
>spoiler 2
i don't like chests. but maybe i should look into them, i've never thought about it.
>spirts
i don't really buy gotts being worthless. the reason why they are expensive and why most runes are cheap is due to bots; you could say "the game was not intended to be botted and thus the market shouldnt have those prices" but then this implies me farming to sell to merchant to buy key to open chest should be good, but you just said they're not good.
>>1773481
doesn't that sound funny? imagine a rule saying to have 1 sup rune at 10, 2 at 15, and 3 at 20.

>>1773494
>feel that happens without farming though
I didn't mean that you'd have to go out of your way to do it, rather that it's a seam to dodge engaging with some game mechanics. the same way green weapons were a little controversial back in the day for making it too easy to get perfect gear
>this implies me farming to sell to merchant to buy key to open chest should be good, but you just said they're not good.
not "not good," just more optimized, like getting packs via flowers. I don't have a problem with it, especially with the currently depressed prices for the usual conset mats. if you figured out a low level 50/50 build to farm merchant drops I would think it was cool, certainly nothing like getting gott ecto

>>1773500
>Unique items were first introduced in the September 7th, 2005 update
>(Guild Wars Factions is the second stand-alone campaign of Guild Wars, released on April 28, 2006)

>>1773503
yeah the sorrow's furnace update, every prophecies green is post-release

>>1772163
I'd run them both to the Bone Palace if you catch my drift.

>>1773561
I do not understand. Please explain further.

>Make a new Nightfall character
>Game grinds to a halt and demands I grind sunspear ranks
Is their any reason I should consider making a NF character at all? Feels like Factions is defacto the best tutorial for getting into the campaigns

>>1773583
You make a Nightfall character when you want a Dervish or a Paragon.

>>1773572
corr I'd like to get em up trapped against a gate and just pound on em with a minion if you see what I'm saying

>>1773593

>>1773593
I don't mate could you perhaps make yourself a bit more clear cheers

>>1773257
yeah I see it's disabled but I don't even know what situation it'd be even worth microing lol just wasting a skill slot.

>>1773384
>>1773388
Trading amongst prog players is fine, trading with other players is not fine otherwise you can skirt too many prog rules. But as long as you don't show up one day with chaos gloves, BDS staff, and obsidian armor etc... and you're following the general spirit of the ironman prog it doesn't bother me. Likewise you can use anything you get out of the GotT you farm (so if you get moss spider egg, bo staff, icy dragon sword, honeycomb, you are allowed to keep and use them). But I'm not encouraging con use because the fun is the struggle. Nobody is going to remember how we beat rotscale first try, but people will remember the rotscale where it came down to the final 2 people in our party soloing rotscale for 5 minutes.

>>1773624
I wanna take em out alone on the dunes and do some things the powers that be wouldn't condone, force myself on some spots they never intended to be touched, if you're picking up what I'm putting down

Is there a world where you use a paragon hero? They are a cool profession but they aint no mesmer

>>1774313
Racway
https://gwpvx.fandom.com/wiki/User:ZStepmother/Team_-_7_Hero_TaO_Racway
It's a really good off-meta comp actually

>>1774313
Yeah, that world is called raptor farming and Ruins of Morah.

I always think about playing this game again from time to time. Is GW1 really worth it at late game. Like what really is there to do?

Wtf is this shit gonna go on sale too, not paying 30+ dollars for this game

>>1775050
It was on sale recently. It goes on sale now and then. If you like the game or have nostalgia for it, i'd say there's some stuff to do as a casual player (me personally).

>>1775053
I always miss the sale. I'll have to join discord or something I can catch this time.

>>1773935
please clarify

>>1775176
honestly idk enough about gw running glitches to keep going

>>1775176
i wanna take them to the secret garden and give them the gift of the traveller

>>1775214
>>1775280
still don't get it desu to be honest
do you mean you want to have sex (sex) with them

>>1775280
you can only get gifts of the huntsman in presearing where the secret garden is, not gifts of the traveler
anet come arrest this man for doing the guild hall item exploit 15 years ago

>>1775291
shut up nerd

>>1754525 (OP)
The charrs owe HUMANITY reparations

>>1775328
>>>/vg/gw2g
We only kill charr here.

>>1775328
damn right

>>1775337
KEK, also
>Tariq Nasheed
WASH YO ASS

>>1775328
Can humans breed charrs ?

>>1775787
this is not the thread for these types of perversions, frenchyboy

>>1775797
No more useless war mon ami

>>1774313
you want paragons when you're doing physical teams

>>1775820
guys literally only one want thing and its fucking disgusting

campaign tomorrow bros
at our level can maybe do ascalon arena pvp too

Everyone's burnt out after the long anniversary, huh?

>>1777842
A little yeah. I've been playing expedition 33

>>1777842
aside from the group stuff I haven't done any gaming the past week, enjoying the last bit of spring

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD29d2ElAPU
kino

1 (one) hour to gaming

ITS PROG TIME GET ONLINE ELONIANS

good quest

>>1778743
Sniffa

can't wait to get out of ascalon, all my caps are red-brown shit

are we doing 1 mission every session?

>>1779324
It will probably be 2 or maybe even 3 missions per session when there aren't skill quests.

>>1779324
Like other anon said, there's a lot of side questing + skill questing early in proph. Next week's goal will be to leave Ascalon so we'll be doing Ruins + Nolani in a single session. But on average we normally end up doing about 2 mission per session.

How badly does the female mesmer primeval headpiece clip with most haircuts?
I'd look at the screenshots on guru but its literally dead and nobody posts photos of their characters anywhere now, not even reddit has pictures

>>1779471
If you have toolbox, you can use the armory function to try on different armor pieces. Can test on a pvp character if you stay in gtob.

But I want to spam the space bar.

>>1779525
>Can test on a pvp character if you stay in gtob.
How?

>>1780007
tb is only disabled in pvp areas (ha, guild hall, ra)
gtob is pve

>>1780151
not being able to do /chest in guild hall still hurts

This reminds me, going change our hall now that we've started a new prog. Options this time are:
Druid's Isle
Burning Isle
Isle of Dead

let me know which one people prefer, I will swap it over to a different hall before next prog session.

>>1780219
wait why just those 3, why can't we /wizardsisle/
I guess I vote druid isle

>>1780222
I'm trying to only pick guild halls we haven't been in before or used in GvG scrims

>>1780219
isle of the dead

>>1780265
bro u love the dead? we got necrophiliacs inna guild?

>>1780292
i like water. the other maps don't have water in them. also catacombs is nice.

>>1780356
just jokin, "isle of" and "I love" are homophones
t. astute wes anderson viewer

>>1780394
>"isle of" and "I love" are homophones
barely

>>1780219
Dead

>>1780219
burning or druids

>>1780219
Burning Isle

>>1780219
Druid's Burning Isle of Dead.

Got LDoA today.
I know it's easy mode now but it was always a goal of mine. I tried back in the death level-ing days and ran out of patience at level 17.
Feels good.

Now I'm gonna Mind Burn my way through Prophecies. I can hardly wait.

>>1782983
nice

>>1782983
congrats
with the level difference you could flare your way to LA probably

got a derv mod from ascalon

>>1783109
bet u can't get a rit bow mod in ascalon tho

ATTENTION: PUBLIC NOTICE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSUMPTION
some of the hardin hittinest [Baww]nagas alive went north of the wall and repossessed the cauldron of cataclysm via murder
the searing has been cancelled, the great northern wall will remain upright until further notice, and we'll be drinking krytan brandy out of charr skulls in drascir before the season of the scion
apologies for the confusion, thank you for the cooperation

>>1783203
Hey uh
Those guys didn't do the searing

>>1783260
yes, precisely. I killed them

>>1783124
I sold it after i told you fucker lol

Nearing the end of Prophecies on my first character, at the 'Mouth of Abaddon' mission.

When the last mission is done, will there be anything left to do in the campaign that can be done with just henchmen (in NM)? Or can I just move on to a new character in Factions

>>1783586
rotscale, and they'll be hard but tomb of the primeval kings, titan quests
what profession are you?

>>1783590
Elementalist/Ranger (only ranger for the Winter skill which hasn't really been that useful recently)

>>1783615
>hasn't really been that useful recently
aren't titans weak to cold damage? what's your build

>>1783632
I haven't fought any titans yet (I think)
my build is fire attunement/elemental attunement/rodgort's invocation/meteor/fireball/incendiary bonds/flare/usually winter or something else random

>>1783645
my bad, you might need it later
pretty based build though

>>1783586
What other anon said + War in Kryta stuff but I would wait until later to do the war in kryta stuff.

>>1783991
war in kryta with level 10 nm henchmen?
no fucking chance

>>1783586
Rotscale and Villainy of Galrath is probably doable with henchies.
Titan quests -> probably more fun to stab yourself in the dick with a rusty fork than try that with henchies
Tomb of the Primeval Kings and Sorrows Furnace -> probably "doable" but you'll have more fun doing them with humans
War in Kryta -> do this after you finish Eye of the North


Also, my suggestion, make a new character for Factions (and Nightfall when you get to it) or you'll miss 25% of the campaign.

Very high chance i will be missing this week of prog

t. Scoozy

>>1784319
our 8 man pvp cru.....
you better come back by the yak's bend arena

>>1784344
I'm just going out of town for the weekend, I'll be back a little after prog ends sunday though

>>1784344
I'll probably not be able to make it either
t. Axe wound

Such is the state of scheduling mid day on a weekend

i only have prophecies and missed out on the big anniversary sale
can someone itt give me a (You) next time the expansions go in sale? thank you in advance <3

Guys, pug pvp modes such as arena are still populated? Theorycrafting builds and testing in group pvp was always the most fun. As a kid I used to play multiple nights in a row without sleeping.

>>1758152
The only games where healing comes close is Tera as elin

and maybe hardcore WoW - simply because there is so much on the line everyone is high

>>1784402
Probably during the Steam summer sale. But it on the gw website

>>1784294
I think I did Villainy of Galrath already when I was in Kryta, Rotscale is a good suggestion though, thanks. Sounds like titan quests, elite zones and WiK aren't going to be an enjoyable time on a proph char with no heroes. I guess I'll leave those until my Nightfall character is finished.

Making a new character for Factions was the plan, going to make a Ritualist

>>1784593
>pug pvp modes such as arena are still populated
you can regularly play, but they're not up 24/7
ra sometimes gets taken over by bots but when it's not it gets some games, there's a discord where people ping when it's up. jq and fa get more, depending on the day/time

AB in 50 mins

>>1784593
i believe RA is every tuesday and thursday FA fir-sun 4est monday JQ. RA and JQ are 2est

in prog if we get a tome what skills are we allowed to learn from it

>>1785548
I don't know how you would get one considering you'd need to be playing in hard mode, or using lockpicks on locked chests to get one.

>>1785548
how are you gonna get a tome
I don't think we should be seeking em out, even if it was allowed it's weird to like 55mo farm a bunch of elite tomes from a boss in kryta and get stuff way early

>>1785642
>>1785646
any mission -> embark -> zaishen mission -> copper -> silver at embark
june 7: nolani academy
june 10: fort ranik
june 23: gates of kryta

>>1783305
ain't a damn thing changed since fr

where is prog now?

>>1785813
we arrived at surmia

Dean gonna try again tomorrow for AB nice big shit storm happened

>>1785682
idk man, it seems like rules-lawyering on a technicality
zcoins and zquests didn't even exist for years after prophecies and to me they seem non-ironmany in a way that e.g. equipment packs don't

>>1785872
from my perspective there's things i find in the actual game first and then things people say can't be done later. the claim is the spirit comes before the letter but this is very obviously not the case and invoking it amounts to
>"just read my mind already bro, i was there when the game launched, so you should know this too"
which i'm not going to pretend to do, so i just ask the final use case. my primary interest is in finding ways to make things interesting within a ruleset.

that reminds me, i forgot the rolling or on-death skill disable thing. were we gonna do that? i suppose it doesn't really matter yet since everything dies so easily atm but later it might be interesting.

what did folks do when prophecies was the only released campaign?

also does anyone have footage of GW1 on release or know where I can find some? I'd like to see the game and its community back in the early days

>>1785682
going to GTOB and by proxy embark beach is campaign travel which is banned since you can also use that to get stuff like cons etc... but it's not enforced. If people want to grab ZC or ZM's I'm totally ok with it. But using zcoins to bypass rules is not ok.

There is technically a grey zone in which if you somehow got enough zcoins to buy bag expander or a larger equipment pack that would be ok with me. But in general anything that affects the prog is usually banned. Getting mistrust at level 10, or getting enough zcoins to unlock an elite like Vision of Regret would affect the prog.

In general I try to avoid making "mandatory" off hour play because it messes up the "progression" if we have 3 people who've been playing in their off time and are already max armor with full attributes and elites meanwhile group is still in ascalon it kinda fucks with the progression of the other 5 people in group. The same would apply to getting tomes and whatnot because it messes with the difficulty if one person is capable of carrying the rest of the prog because they unlocked OP NF skills in their free time anyone who doesn't do the same would thus be dead weight or barely contributing. It's not very fun when you realize you are dead weight or not contributing to group's success.

In general the only time tomes are ok is if it's been pre approved before the prog. We talked about this in thread I believe and discussed if we wanted to hand out tomes either as part of a lockout rule set, or as group rewards for beating difficult prog goals (such as beating Rotscale) but popular opinion was no tomes. If we do a factions prog after this I might push for a more tome friendly ruleset to keep things interesting.

>>1785900
regarding on death we decided not to do that. Maybe in a future prog though, I think it'd be interesting.

>>1785946
vintage footage of when monks went on strike in protest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_qL6gTxpvU

>>1785953
Thunderhead Keep
The Great Filter

>>1785953
Thanks anon, this is just what I was looking for

>>1785953
oooooooogey
ill spend the zcoins on party items then

>>1785946
>>1785965
there are archives of old gw forum posts if you're interested in those
https://guru-archive-test.guildwarslegacy.com/category?id=2&page=400
a lot of the videos aren't available because youtube barely existed, there are people attaching files to their forum posts or linking to wmv files on random personal domains
there's also this from mid-prophecies onwards https://files.catbox.moe/erunl0.pdf

>>1785946
farmed trolls and minots

ab starting

Will I have more fin playing with one pal as a ritualist or a necromancer and having no experience with the game other than a brief glance back in 2007

>>1788133
Ritualist kinda blows in terms of fun imo

>>1788133
It probably won't make much of a difference really. Ritualists have healing and protection abilities if you think you want to step into that a bit and not go full monk.
Necromancers have good buffs for melee characters if you know your friend is playing melee and want to do that.sa8ky

>>1788133
honestly they're not that distinct
both will let you buff your friend, summon things to fight for you, cast offensive spells. rit has a little more defensive variety, necro a little more offensive variety, but with either one you can be active and casting stuff or mostly sitting around after setting things up, depending on your build

6 hours til prog, i haven't slept
someone (You) me to wake me up on time

my belly hurts and I'm feeling dizzy

>>1788790
Anon, I'm sorry, but you're pregnant.

>>1788790
sorry minister cho
have a red bean cake, you'll feel better

>>1784358
Since I'm going to be away for prog time too, let's do the missions together this evening maybe sometime between 7 and 8 or so?

>>1788959
wut da fuk is prog gonna be like 3 ppl

>>1788672
wakey wakey prog time

Also I have set our guild hall to Isle of Dead

>>1788959
I'm back for whenever we wanna try

did someone send steam friend requests? i see two people here that i don't know and i never get friend requests. there's 11 in the group but it only shows 8?

>>1790053
'm loggog in now

Been bored with the game thinking of switching characters, have an assassin at level 20 but really haven't done much with it. Thinking of making it an oolas solo sc, would you guys be interested in leeching sometimes?

Did the Euros at least show up to prog today?

>>1790305
we had a [fun]bro turn out, but just the one I think

just got my first "of the x" mod
is +5 estorage on a sword worth anything? if it's only a few ecto I'll just keep it and buildcraft

>>1790390
Generally no. EStorage is best on a wand, cause it's even more energy on your high energy set. Swords in general are kinda rough cause they're the weakest of the 3 warrior weapon types.

Completed the Nightfall campaign for the first time today, wooo. Overall the easiest campaign by a pretty wide margin. Now I can play the real game I guess.

>>1792236
Now go take a dip into the Domain of Anguish. You're tough so it should be no problem.

>>1792246
Yeah sounds good, it should be a nice smooth transition from the campaign that gently ups the challenge, it's not like they'd hit you with a huge difficulty spike just for completing a campaign, right?

>>1792236
gz
post hero builds

>>1790390
forgot they added this. so cool that they would put in new content for old players to try to work builds around

>>1793084
Whats the best way to share builds, just write them out here?
I have no idea what I'm doing I just play the game and when I get really stuck I read the wiki.

>>1793181
there are programs that do like full team builds but I've never used em
if you go to your guild wars folder, inside Templates\Skills are text files of all the builds, and you can paste em here or into https://gwpvx.fandom.com/wiki/Special:PvXDecode which will give you a link like https://gwpvx.fandom.com/wiki/Special:PvXDecode?wpBuild=OwAS0YIT%2BD%2FONg0V3NbETfME

>>1793188
Ok, I'm calling it a night here but I'll share in the morning.

>>1793181
You could just take a picture with the hero action bar open on your screen.

I personally use pawned2 because I'm old school
https://memorial.redeemer.biz/pawned2/

There's also this website
https://guildwars.magical.ch/

Also good news I will be able to make it to Sunday's game after all.

>>1793084
>>1793188
>>1793579
Thanks, this is a neat tool. Here is my heroes' and mine builds I finished Abaddon's Gate with, I am the Mesmer at the top. I swapped out a few Warrior skills since only Abaddon himself has flesh to be effected by bleed/gash. Again I have no idea what I'm doing, I've only really played this game casually a few times since I owned it, and it's only in the last year I gave it an honest effort to finish the campaigns. I almost never micro my heroes and just let them do their thing.

>>1794416
holy based
I like the triple projectile air/fire ele

>>1794416
I'm honestly impressed that you got through Gate of Madness with this.

>>1794416
why do non-ranged non-elite monk rezes blow
you have 2 melee so you can't easily use rez chant or renew/restore life, but you could genuinely slot in (nonsovlfvlly) flesh of my flesh or death pact sig, probably even signet of return, all with no points invested, and probably be better off

>>1794416
>some real garbage
this is very heartening
maybe i have been meta-brainwashed for too long

>>1795146
rude eshit
but yeah we weren't joking about being able to beat nm campaigns with henchmen and bare minimum competence

>>1794416
>using web of disruption
holy based, I kneel anon.

Despite what others are saying this is honestly not that bad of a set up. You should consider swapping your monk res skills to something else though (or disable them during fights) it can be dangerous to have your only healers stop healing to do an easy to disrupt 5 second cast which only revives someone at 25% HP (easy to kill again).

Popular strat is to have your warriors run a res skill instead since they are unlikely to die however both yours are /a so if you want to keep death charge I would personally drop Flare on your ele for Flesh of my Flesh (one of the best res skills in the game). You have plenty of low cool down skills on your ele bar that Flare isn't really worth it and you aren't running attunements or overcast so you don't really want to run Flare to begin with.

If you want some more advise on how to improve this current set up let us know in thread, but honestly with a few tweaks you should be able to easily clear EotN this is not a bad first time set up for someone who's new.

>>1795890
>flarestorm
>heal party
>resurrect

Its not that bad but some of them might not even be better than the henchies.
And the henchies are pretty damn good past Proph.

Which campaign is the most erotic?

And which campaign is the most intelligent?

>>1796353
1) factions

2) Do mini expansions count? If so WiK.

>>1796353
Nightfall
WoC

What hero team build would be optimal for normal mode? I wanna speedrun the protector titles
Mesmers key benefit of ignoring armor is kinda redundant, same with spirits everything dies to quick to set them up in time, fallback is also way more important to have multiple copies of

>>1796432
Mesmers are still good damage+shutdown, even if ignoring armor isn't as important. Mistrust is big, cry of frustration is big. The standard bar for them is still really good spike, shutdown and energy management, while fitting in a res or ench removal while also not relying on enchantments themselves. No ele stack is gonna prices the same benefits, but that's not so say they're worthless.

ST really is just the best prot there is for most stuff. You won't need to precast or anything but it's still extremely good for c+spacing. There's maybe a way to run an E/Mo though as long as you're aware of ench removal.

The main things would be considering to swap out the sos with probably an air ele of some kind. The main purpose of the sos is splinter weapon+resto stuff of melee. You might not need the 2nd healer for NM. If you use +5 SR weapons on the mesmers, and still keep their inspo skills, you probably can get away with dropping the SoS. Less great if you're a melee since splinter is the real MVP of that bar, but it likely doesn't beat an air ele.

Double fall back is definitely important though yeah. Merc mesmerway already runs that, but if you're not running mercs you definitely should fit it in. The incoming+fall back on a single hero is a good substitute though.

That's all for tweaking mesmerway, but there's also a TON of melee or physical shenanigans you can get away with in NM. Orders, paragon stacking like Racway, shit like that can be great cause the enemies don't shit on melee as much.

>>1795890
>>1795146
>>1794792
>>1794771
>>1794436
Thanks for the advice. I probably still have half of the game's skills not unlocked yet so I try to make do. The tip about Res spells makes a lot of sense.

is warrior primary ever good when assderv exists

>>1796646
pvp, raptor farming, fun
derv and sin are just busted for pve

when can we get the boys together and do fow/underworld/doa?

>>1796646
hammer is always fun

>>1796748
We typically do a FoW run after we finish our prog. We always do a UW run during October but if there's interest for a UW/DoA run lemme know and maybe I can schedule something for next month.

are there any primordial Guildheads here?

How did you feel when the following were announced/revealed:
>Factions
>Nightfall
>EotN

Hyped? Disappointed? Scared? Big penis? Little penis?

>>1796959
Idk man I was 12 when i started playing and NF wasn't much longer after that

>>1796993
I guess you did all your growing early. I'm sure you're a good size, anon.

>>1797051
I'm done growing, 'cept sideways

I assume you're all playing on retail version and I have to buy it, not on some private server?

>>1797116
Yeah. The complete package will be ~$5-10 when the next Steam sale comes around.
But it on guildwars.com (Masterpiece Collection) not on Steam.

>>1796959
>Factions
discovered guild wars like a week or two before. eve and nika were the most beautiful faces i'd ever seen. more than a couple faps were had
>Nightfall
this woman isn't as attractive. she's ok i guess. black man in white glowing suit seems strange tho
>EotN
what the fuck

>>1797195
You don't like Jora?

>>1796959
started playing too late to know, like 2009 or something
got boxed copies of the trilogy and then eotn from target as a kid, used to hang out in the video game section while my parents shopped

>>1796959
>Factions
Cool.
>Nightfall
Cool.
>EotN(igger)
This came with the announcement of heroes and bigger henchman parties, basically signaling the death of the game as an MMO and catering to the (admittedly) dwindling playerbase of solofags. I stopped playing.

>>1797294
the fuck are you talking about
nf had heroes, and you couldn't add >3 heroes to your party until like gw2 was released

>>1796959
I didn't pay attention to gaming news back then so I just logged on one day and everybody had access to this new Cantha area that I didn't and I was butthurt about it for a while, and whenever my mom took me to Target I'd look at Guild Wars Factions on the shelf and seethe.

>>1797213
i don't. it's the face of a fat woman.
given the paper cover had a painted face, i think they knew they fucked up too.

>>1796884
toss them on the schedule.

By the five gods, Herta is stacked higher than a triple order of Waffle House pancakes.

>>1799101
Childhood is fiddling with the camera to catch a glimpse of Cynn's thong.
Adulthood is jacking off to Herta's Lightning Orbs.

>>1799319
Herta's running an earth build so it's more like worshiping her obsidian flesh

>>1799101
>>1799656
She hawks my ebon till I weakness?

>>1799656
How did I miss this one?

>>1799319
heh

What are the best Deldrimor talisman weapon rewards? None of them seem terribly good for my ele

>>1800618
they're not that great. I think people get +60hp staffs, but you can probably just use a shield set
I just keep em in my xunlai chest desu

>>1800618
Zealous Daggers or Scythe are solid. Furious Spear isn't terrible.

is prog still sunday?
it's father's day, might be meeting up with my dad

>>1800618
the martial weapons are good, the caster ones are not, so just get something nice for your war/ranger/derv alt

>>1799101
I want to navigate her Moddock Crevice.

Shing Jea Island is such a comfy place, I wish there was more stuff to do there.

I never knew this dude existed.
https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Bahltek

>>1803356
Ball tech is what I learned in middle school

>>1802475
they get pretty good use out of it. if you do side quests you run around it a bunch, then you do 2 missions, then you go back over the missions to do attribute point quests, then you come back during woc for more
but yeah it's very comfy, I love feather farming and hanging out in the mountains

>>1800721
Ah yeah forgot about that... do people still wanna do Sunday's Prog? I should be free for it but not sure how many other people are free.

>>1803356
i'm going to feel better in a few minutes when i forget. what a piece of garbage. nightfall really was filled with trash characters.

>>1803448
ehhhhh at least they tried
how many proph characters can you describe in like 2+ sentences, minimum 3 non-physical adjectives?
rurik, adelbern, jalis the dwarf king, glint, vizier khilbron, maybe cynn, mhenlo, ? that axe guy who runs away from his debts?

>>1803501
complexity isn't my measure of value, coherence is. "balthazar" can be described in a single word, the reason why he's cool is he's integrated into the world creation story, which itself could probably be pinned in about a single sentence. rurik is a few words, adelbern is a few words, cynn is a few words, mhenlo is a few words, but they work together. even the ascalon cuck works together.
this bahltek guy might as well be something out of borderlands.
actually now that i think about it, that would be one way to explain the rise of garbage quirky characters. the character description sheet is longer and therefore looks more developed to MBAs.
well, the more direct explanation is they're all just evil.

Proph prog starting in 2 hours ! !
We made it to Yak's Bend last session.

Doing family stuff, should be able to make a 7:30 or thereabouts session again for anyone else that misses prog today.
t. Axe wound necrosis

>>1806764
I will also probably be a few minutes late so expect to start at 3:30 PM, today's session should be short goal is skill quests and 1 mission -Spirit

i dreamed "Vial of Iridescence" was added to the game to turn anything into chaos appearance and purchasable from any merchant for 500g.

>>1806868
Update still stuck in traffic might be 3:45, go grab that outpost north of Nolani if I am late

niggas be comin up with the most elaborate excuses not to prog bro stuck in traffic please

>>1807300
I got father's day shit, I'll be back next week

>>1807300
Those damn Euros wanted to do it during their time then never show up.
Except Mae he's cool.

>>1806868
how far do I need to catch up?

>>1807866
complete borlis pass

>Elonian Points week
Is it worth starting a new dervish just for farming? Every gott or boss green farming guide features a dervish

>>1808784
you can do pretty much anything with a derv. group pve, solo farms, speedclears, etc.
if you like melee, go for it

>>1808784
You can farm with basically every profession. Some might be better suited to certain things than others, however.
Dervish is a natural farmer with their high energy regen and high armor rating.

>>1808834
kinda underselling it
you can take a vos derv with booze just about anywhere in the game, unless they got aoe ench rips. if you want a versatile universal minimal-adjustment solo farmer, it's derv and maybe rit

>Mission/dungeon that was pretty hard to beat the last time you plaayed it comes up on the Zaishen rotation
>it's laughably easy now
Feels good, man.

>>1807380
he's aight... for a britbong

>someone got IP nuked
RIPIP

I started a Ritualist the other day and spotted my lost twin brother at Embark Beach. We did the Zaishen mission together and added each other as friends before giving a hearty farewell.

>>1808834
My best memories of the games are when I made up builds to farm greens I wanted

>>1809979
GWTB is going to be down for a while due to the recent update.

>>1809979
they got me

Starting Factions, what should I expect, look forward to, fear? I've chosen a ritualist.

>>1812051
there's a pretty big difficulty spike after you get off the island and suddenly the enemies fuck you hard. take your time before leaving and get max armor asap once you do. there are collectors around kaineng if you're doing an ironman type run
unlike prophecies there are basically no skill quests after shing jea and every skill in the game is immediately available. you'll have to drive your own build experimentation, I recommend checking for rit bosses before you go through an area to cap their elites. also once you pick your secondary, talk to ng in shing jea for a bunch of free skills
lots of missions with allies that like to die and wipe your progress. watch the party window if their health drops, maybe bring some resto skills to save them if it becomes a problem
hf, factions is fun as fuck

>>1812051
never put a spirit on your bar or you'll be bored to death

>>1812051
Great, we have another sos/st slave.

>>1812051
rit is borin ahh hell

>>1812142
>>1812259
hatin ass nagas

>>1812090
That difficulty spike sounds scary. I was struggling with the final mission of Prophecies a lot until I discovered the command that makes your henchies target an enemy above other ones. Protecting allies sounds like cancer but I guess I'll try my best.
>>1812142
>>1812189
Yeah sorry guys, I will definitely be using spirits. That's part of what attracted me to the class in the first place; not even sure what a non-spirit build would look like. A bunch of healing and weapon buffs? Doesn't interest me much.
>>1812259
Yeah, sorry. It's my first time through Factions so I wanted to choose a campaign-specific profession, and I'm going Dervish in Nightfall so playing an Assassin felt pointless (plus people here said Factions was full of anti-melee technology to the point of frustration)

>>1812416
you can play channeling magic for a dps spellcaster

>>1812422
Oh, alright. Well, I went through Proph on an elementalist that was also a DPS spellcaster, so a spirit summoner seems like it will be a unique experience between DPS spells in proph and Melee in Dervish

Since starting my first Rit character a little while ago I have a lot of fun being a spirit spammer

>>1812416
The only thing to be aware of as a rit is that your party can only have one of each spirit. Meaning if you use shelter, and then a rit henchman also uses shelter, yours will die as theirs spawns. Chiyo has signet of spirits so don't take her if you wanted to use that elite. Gai has shelter and union, and aeson has pain, disenchantment, shadowsong, and union. Chiyo and Gai are both solid and you probably should be taking at least one, but be aware of that interaction and drop the one that has overlap or tweak your build

>>1812416
they're bullshittin, and poisoned from meta spirit spamming, rit is fun
the difficulty spike is just that the whole campaign is designed for you to be max level, because they were afraid people wouldn't buy factions if they couldn't reuse their prophecies characters. quests and progress give out way more xp compared to proph so you'll cap out pretty quickly. just get armor asap

I might play with a friend, he never played before.
How dead/alive is the game?

I hate this game sometimes

>>1814018
Pretty alive for its age, all things considered. I can regularly find people to do dailies with at reset, trade is pretty active, and pvp can occasionally happen but usually only on organized days. A lot of other 20 year old games have fared worse.

>>1814018
You're not likely to find real partners for first play theough missions and quests but there are plenty of people around doing things.

>>1814132
q13 just means it's exclusively for warrior chads

>>1814018
more alive than it has ever been arguably

Resto allows you to play traditional healer "monk" but with more options and a little less raw healing output.
The only thing it can't do is hex removal.

How are Ritualist's off-meta options? People only ever talk about it in the context of SoS and ST.

>>1815265
off meta rit just a worse ele or a less fun to play monk

>>1815265
DwG is alright. Big pbaoe nuke and you get to run around.
Rit Lord is kinda just the same as the other options but legally distinct.

One of these days I'm going to put together a Grasping was Kuurong build.

>>1815265
>>1815268
actually I lied, Spirit's Strength builds are a lot of fun

deadass ordered a fleshlight with a shower mount fuck that time to get some

>>1815339
return it
onaholes are way better than fleshlights imo
trust the japs to do it best

This q8 worth anything ?

>>1815756
Yeah it's worth. Try listing in kamadan and see what you get

>>1815756
>>1815764
kamadan is full of scammers, just hear em out, don't take an offer
there's a gw discord and the gw legacy forum where high rollers hang out

>>1815756
it's str and blue so not much

>>1815343
yeah no I bet you're right but aren't onaholes single use? I got the quickshot fleshlight not the full closed end one so it's easier to clean, I heard the big ones get nasty after a while cus it's hard to clean them all the way

>>1818320
you just clean 'em out like any other closed-end type
they're usually so flexible you could completely turn them inside out if you want, but I never tried

>>1818320
some of the anime girl branded ones just say to reverse them, though i left one reversed once and it split itself somewhat (the opening got a bit bigger) since apparently the material wasn't designed to stay that way. tenga has specifically marketed openable and reversible ones which presumably don't have this problem.

>>1819689
>>1818359
I'll keep that in mind if/when I order a new one

I should have bought the 8€ collection when it was in sale, what a moron.

>>1819900
It will probably go on sale around the time Steam does their sale.

>>1820652
I hope so my friend

POWER

I'm on vacation and can't get to a computer, if you do campaign progress today post how far you get
gl killing dwarves

I probably won't be around AGAIN
Doing normalfag shit

>>1821463
lions arch + that one skill quest with the historian in the swamp fighting shadows

>>1823871
oh fugg I really gotta catch up
forgot you can't skillcap before la, thought you'd be in the mountains

i had a dream that there was a community gvg tournament with a $50k prize pool and we lost in the first game

>>1824370
Yeah that tracks

>>1824370
i believe it

Kryta has the best beaches

>>1824859
for me it's the little cove with the smiley shark

>>1824929
This one?

>>1825860
I think he might be in a bunch of places, I meant the area that's all bog skale over by fisherman's haven

>"hmm i wanna play gw"
>open gw
>select character
>load in
>"..."
>close game

SoO ZB at reset today where we at bros

>>1827229
I'm at work bro

>>1827312
so am I but I'll be online

>>1827050
>select character
that was your mistake, shoulda hit create character

>>1827229
do we want to sc it...

>>1827050
play hammer mesmer

>>1827397
I'm in a loop of
>create new character
>after ~10 hours get bored
>delete character

>>1827596
I keep making a character, getting them through every campaign except prophecies, realizing I now need to do wik to unfuck kryta spawns and resign myself to only ever doing easy ZB/ZMs with them

>>1827607
what's even wik'd up for normal prophecies stuff, especially if you have heroes and shit
you walk 2 minutes to dalessio seaboard, and I think it's only those fire imps outside la in the way

>>1827755
Mostly that but it just bothers my autism

>>1827876
it's all in your head, get over it
you can go from la through the end of the game without killing a single wik mob

I wish curses necro didn't have so many two second cast times in pve

Sale is up: https://store.guildwars.com/en-us

>>1828840
Oh shit most of everything is on sale. Might be time to grab mercs

>>1828840
Sweet. BTW Mercs are just your own characters that you can use as Heroes right?

>>1828856
Yes

>>1828856
Yes including pvp characters. You don't need to keep the character once they're registered as a merc too, so you can fill out them all by reusing the same character slot.

I have a better understanding of induced demand and the "just one more lane" mentality after buying a storage tab. That extra space instantly got used

>>1829061
I gorged myself and maxed out my bank tabs and mercs during the anniversary.

>>1829061
post bank I'll tell you what to get rid of
t. horrible hoarder who can identify the issues for other people

>>1829068
It's just gold weapons or weapon upgrades I haven't merched cause I think I'll need them

>>1829068
I keep hoarding runes & insignias even for the ones it only costs 100g to buy.

>>1829173
that's fucking retarded
but I do that with dyes, even ones I know I'll never use

I just downloaded and made a ritualist. Haven't touched the game in a decade.

>>1829338
Based rit bro

>>1829338
u better be a channelingbro

>>1829068
Not him but I keep all the minipets I got even though I dislike them

I'm hitting the point where I don't have obvious uses for my money like gearing up alts and heroes. Should I start buying up the title points, pcons/consets, or something else? I don't care to blow it all on obby armor+chaos gloves+blindfold, or a BDS or some shit

>>1829965
idk I got essentially infinite money and I didn't even kit out my alts
it's just bits and pixels and you don't even care about the cost-prohibitive gold sinks, put it in your chest and do whatever's fun

>>1829068
Yeah I'm the same, I can identify Kensuke solely from his inventory and bank management. It's bad.

>>1829965
Buy lockpicks for all your characters next time we get an outpost (never) spend all your money on lockpicks.

>>1830755
Forgot to include this: but also buy res scrolls. You can treat it as basically a free skill slot and not have to bring a res skill anymore., consider crafting some consets as well it's a good way to get rid of excess mats and you often need to buy what you are short on.

I'm beginning to think a lot of the people in kamadan are multiboxers

>>1830889
No, dude, there's totally seven people who all look exactly the same that happen to sync dance at the same time.

I just realized the Paragon I've been playing with is using a shield with req she doesn't have because I changed my build 3 months ago and forgot about it. No wonder she seemed a little squishier than normal.

>>1830889
What is even the point of multiboxing in GW1? Rep farming?

>>1830929
selling in kama while actually playing the game

>>1830929
non-nefariously? gott farming and storage
nefariously probably a bunch of shit, like pvp syncing and bot fleets

OH YEAH dragon festival started

I read something about prenerf greens a while ago but didn't look much into it, but it looks like the Orisen's Staff I have is one of them? What do you reckon it's worth?

>>1831073
at least a few hundred ecto
honestly I'd keep it, gw wealth isn't hard to come by but they're never making another one of those

What do we do even do during the dragon festival?

>>1831364
9 rangz

idr who was talking about it but it might be a good time to buy if you got cash

Post what you manage to accomplish in prog today. There's an 80% chance I won't make it again.

Get ready boys, prophecies prog starting in 30
but do try to log in 10 mins earlier so we're all ready to go

>>1831078
neat.jpeg
I'm deffo in the collector mindset so I'll hang on to it.

>>1832844
arrived at divinity coast

How is Dervish in a general sense? Just looking what profession I want to play to replay the campaigns, maybe do some farming, etc

>>1833246
Probably the best profession in a general sense. Strong at party stuff, can solo farm a lot of the game, has a great running build, used in speed clears. Meta builds use either Pious Renewal and Vow of Strength but the 5 avatar skills are really neat and ones like Avatar of Lyssa can be a good mixup from the main two meta elites.

>>1833246
balth grenth and lyssa are all great along with pious and both vows class can do it all

I suggested trying guild wars 1 to a friend who never played it, and he surprisingly accepted
What do you think is the best campaign for a complete newcomer? The wiki suggests prophecy, but I'm afraid it could be too slow

>>1833717
You can just skip side quests if it's too slow. Proph is actually really well designed and paced with a nice difficulty ramp-up if you play it properly (limited to skills you can actually earn at each stage, limited to looted gear, no heroes or high level friends, etc) and it has the most iconic setting and story. Just play with him as the monk (unless he wants to heal ofc), let him pick where to go and what to do, and don't metagame or backseat and it's a blast regardless of campaign.

>>1833721
Thanks anon!

>>1832844
Like other anon said we are at Divinity coast we did a bunch of skill questing today and got beetlerun + hotspring outpost. Next week if we have 7 people show up we will get ToA and do rotscale, if we only have 6 people we will go try and get 1 elite from Snake Dance

>>1833717
>>1833725
are you also new to gw or experienced?
if you can hustle him through when he gets bored, I'd do prophecies. factions becomes a deathball that's hard to read pretty quickly, nf can be better if you manage all the heroes, but it's a fine line between taking competent builds and making your friend's contribution to team success hard to notice
prophecies keeps you in 4-6 man parties about 2/3 of the game, if not more, and very obviously introduces things you need to worry about. this is the section where you really ought to interrupt something, this is the section where conditions are a problem, etc

>>1834230
Thanks, I didn't think about the advantages of a smaller team!
> are you also new to gw or experienced?
I am experienced (finished factions with all professions, nightfall with most, and prophecy with some)
> but it's a fine line between taking competent builds and making your friend's contribution to team success hard to notice
My plan is to play a monk as the other anon suggested, and not use heroes, so my friend is remains important

>>1754525 (OP)
Any good videos of endgame content? i miss this game would like to watch some of the more difficult content

>>1834286
nice, have fun
>>1834809
what kind of stuff are you nostalgic for? if you did speedclears you can look for videos in https://wiki.fbgmguild.com/wiki/Main_Page and https://gwpvx.fandom.com/wiki/Category:All_working_SC_builds
if you played more casually or want an overview, you can try https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDF3E75A843BA1607
also if you really miss it, anet support is pretty lenient about recovering accounts

>>1834809
If you're interested in GvG stuff I'd recommend Hubert he does decent commentary https://www.youtube.com/@HubetHamsterhurter/videos look for his monthly MAT tournament videos. If you want more oldschool GvG this video still remains one of the best overviews of what high level GvG looked like long ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFWvdyCk1Uo&t=115s&pp=ygUOZ3VpbGQgd2FycyBndmc%3D there's also GW memorial channel which has preserved many very old GvGs 2007 EW vs QQ still one of my favorite https://www.youtube.com/@GWMemorial

WP, doombox and some other creators all have classic PvE end game videos if you're looking for a more structured guide Péter Kádár is an absolute classic farming/dungeon guide youtuber, GWReborn is the modern watered down Peter Kadar version if you prefer that.

As always we run end game stuff as well no prior experience is needed to join us on these runs

>>1834809
https://youtu.be/RWSkMwZiwL4

>>1836239
Why do they drop champagne poppers and sparklers?

>>1836307
there popping that one pcon from factions that gives you random shit forget the name

>Fire Magic focus
>Grants chance bonus to Water Magic
...ok

>>1836719
that's OS weapons for you
that's why chestrunning is so addictive, you never know what ultra-rare one-of-a-kind mod combo you're about to get

>>1836719
it's for my mind-freeze+arcane mimicry'd master of magic+meteor shower build

>>1836307
idk

>>1754525 (OP)
DirectSong improved playlist WIP;

https://old.reddit.com/r/GuildWars/comments/1kwj3oz/directsong_enhanced_playlist/
https://github.com/ChthonVII/gwdirectsongremix
https://github.com/ChthonVII/gwdirectsongremix/blob/main/observations.md

DirectSong additional music by Jeremy Soule;

https://old.reddit.com/r/GuildWars/comments/8q21ca/sorting_out_the_directsong_mess/
https://old.reddit.com/r/GuildWars/comments/8tgtou/directsong_revival_pack/

DSOAL-GW1 3D audio fix;

https://old.reddit.com/r/GuildWars/comments/nj6b30/announcing_dsoalgw1_3d_positional_audio_and_eax/
https://old.reddit.com/r/GuildWars/comments/o8am4m/dsoalgw1_updated/

spirits you wanted some warrior ideas check this flux bar lol its right up you ally https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOsiR_jIWzI

>>1837683
Holy shit that is an absurd bar

I feel like Penetrating blow would be a better pick compared to disember if we ever run this in FA or maybe even in AB, likewise if this is FA could probably drop res sig for something like sig of clumsiness for a free KD.

Actually mentioning AB has got me thinking so I ended up theory crafting a team you could probably have 1 war run disember, and other run axe rake if you wanted. It's a pretty simple set up, necro spams cracked armor, and uses defile defenses + barbs to set up for huge spikes, defile alone will do 126 damage, you could probably even justify sticking Rigor Mortis on this bar to prevent blocking, though it might need another enchant rip. And necro slurps up conditions on melee constantly.

Ritualist is a pretty standard channeling support can use ancestor rage for free spike DPS, resilient weapon combos well with the necro and nightmare weapon is basically free healing for the warriors. All of these builds are fairly energy efficient as well.

Definitely want to try this next double AB week.

>>1837841
for sure drop res sig you got so many idea to play with fuck in ab or fa i would suggest something as simple as iway for the constant hp regen that spear build with iway is godlike

>>1837896
Yeah I had thought about that but the problem is res signet counts as a signet for symbolic strike, so dropping it means you lose 12 damage (+3~ from flux) on your main spike skill. That honestly might still be worth it for FA just for the sustain it gives.

Healing signet would be a kinda nice out of combat heal as well.

>>1837919
now that i think about it sig of clumsiness would be hilarious on a war

early morning trading is interesting

>>1840115
What are the chances he gets banned for that?

>>1840117
idk he was at it for a few hours lol

>>1840115
Few weeks ago there were like 10-15 people trolling a guy trying to buy glacial blade every now and then there are some true gems in the trade chat.

>>1840338
lmao

>>1840117
The report feature literally does nothing anymore.

>>1840115
>cups interface
i am going to lick

Why are all the henchies facing the wall?

>>1840115
>>1840914
export your tb settings vro
I fucked up mine and now it's a disaster, and I'm not reading 500 dropdowns to unfuck it

>>1840917
cynn panties (front)

>>1840917
You're facing the wall too.
Stop being a bigot.

>>1840914
its pure autism
>>1840918
let me figure it out and i will

I just learned that
> Each campaign has two special quests that each reward a character with 15 additional attribute points beyond those awarded by reaching level 20
Anything else a somewhat experienced player could have missed?

prog in 30 min yeah?

>>1841607
ya

>>1841607
I had something come up, might be there in an hour or so

>>1841507
You can dye your bags.

>>1841507
Double click on a name in the chat window to select the player

>>1841507
Signet of capture quest, but I think you can just outright buy signet from most Factions/NF skill traders anyway.

>>1841651
KENSUKE

>>1841507
f9
quarterstepping
IDing stuff raising its gold value

They should add a rare weapon random box that costs 10 gold zcoins. I definitely am not sitting on a large stack of said coins.

fleshlight update: had it for a week and some now been fuckin it every day happy I bought the open ended one, the shower mount is simply epic

>>1842869
Yeah and they should have it linked to a title so each time you open it you make progress on an account wide title.

Maybe having each rank of the title give you a new emote as well. That'd be cool.

>>1842869
Do Zaishen keys not meet that criteria?

>>1842913
>>1842911
No it should be a new thing that rewards people that have large stacks of gold zcoins from market speculation, namely me.

>>1842931
Oh ok, well don't mind me, I'm just going casually drop this screenshot here for no reason in particular.

>>1842939
See that's old hat and has been priced in. I want new things so my stash suddenly spikes in value

>>1842941
If you're wanting the box to sell rather than to open this also already exists - zaishen gladiator strongboxes. Now that most of the bots have been wiped out/banned and the method of bots farming random arena has been nerfed in addition to the way the community plays random arenas (instant leave rather than trying to win streaks) this means the supply of these strongboxes will continue to dwindle and become more valuable. Buy while still low, sell high.

Can someone give me a quick rundown on the non-obvious classes to me like I'm a total retard (I am)

>>1842961
how do you mean

>>1842961
which classes are non-obvious

>>1842961
>Monk
healing, protecting, smiting
>Warrior
bashing/slashing/smashing
>Ranger
how do i shot bow + hippie nature shit and bestiality
>Necromancer
emo cutter midline caster with support options and can create expendable minions
>Mesmer
enemy shutdown
>Elementalist
fire=aoe nuke, air=single target nuke, earth=defensive, water=control
>Assassin
glass cannon melee
>Dervish
AoE warrior with enchantment ADHD

Now where it gets interesting...

>Ritualist
Can be played as a pure healer/protter or damage dealer, but what I'd argue they're best at is support in a variety of ways.
Ritualists can create stationery spirits for a variety of purposes, such as attacking, healing, potecting, buffing, debuffing, etc. They're very good at planting in one spot and doing it all at once, e.g., they can plant the Disenchantment spirit to rip enchantments off enemies, buff your melee with a weapon spell that makes his weapon heal him with each attack, drop a cheap attack spirit like Pain in the way of enemies to control their movements, etc.

>Paragon
You can play paragon as a ranged melee spearchucker, but again, what they excel at it party support, especially with other paragons and melees in general. They're very good at "pressure" buffing/debuffing. They don't get used as much outside specific builds or one off skills but gather enough paragons and they can do crazy things.

>>1842961
disregard the above this is true and fact checked by ascalonian royalists:
>monk
fun
>warrior
fun in specific circumstances
>ranger
fun
>necro
boring
>mesmer
boring
>ele
fun in specific circumstances
>sin
fun
>dervish
fun
>rit
boring
>para
boring
*specific circumstances mean pvp

>>1843062
>>necro
>boring
>>sin
>fun
filthy dpswhore hands wrote this post

>>1843074
only good thing about necros is hot necro ladies on muh dik

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2axyusILfgs
i will try this

>>1843062
>mesmer
>boring
In terms of how active you are running around perhaps, but when an enemy caster presses their "party wipe lol" button and then a cloud of damage numbers hits their own group and kills half of them on the spot while they forcibly trip over their own dick, I am in ecstasy.

>>1843087
>no cons
>look inside
>alcohol and cupcakes are required

>>1843107
it's me doing it not you so step off bud

>>1843102
>Tfw mistrusting into CoF into energy drain
God I am cum

>>1843171
>Web of Disruption -> Shatter Delusions -> Mistrust -> Cry of Pain -> Power Drain
Unless they're trying to rattle off all of their sklills I throw in Unnatural Signets and if they're still alive by then I backhand them with E-surge. The fun police are on site and beatings are in progress.

warrior have flat as fuck asses

Words cannot describe how much I love this game.

>>1843598
this is why kurzicks rule, they give them armor with a nice booty

>>1843598
Sunspears got a nice jogger's butt.

>>1843062
>*specific circumstances mean pvp
based
and cuppilled

>>1843663
It truly is one of a kind as a reminder there's a sale going on in the GW1 store if you ever wanted to buy some stuff. The bonus mission packs are pretty nice if you've never done them before.

https://store.guildwars.com/en-us

In other news next week is double AB week we will have a team are we interested in trying any set ups or do we wanna run >>1837841 and abuse people with warrior.

Also I've come up with an extremely trolly flux build. Premise is pretty simple, abuse flux to get +30% damage on attacks, use chilling wind which makes water hexes last 2X longer + deep freeze which is a 10 second long -66% mass AoE = 20 seconds of -66% movement. You then spam lightning orb for 150-200 damage. You can either go with the top build which has vapor blade for another spammable 150 damage attack. Or you can go bottom build which has shell shock + teinai crystal which combo really well together for a bonus powerful cover hex and cracked armor. Bottom's a lil more complicated to play but probably more balanced. Top build just flows better.

>>1843856
forgot to include* AB will be on Friday July 18th at 1PM EST

>>1843663
It's interesting because there's several rpgs and pseudo-MMOs I've played that have more complex mechanics, deeper character building, more customization, etc, but GW1 is the only one I keep coming back to every time. It's just a good, charming game.

>>1843874
>more complex mechanics
which? don't think I've ever seen something similar, between the variety of a constrained skillbar and the enemies using your skills thing
I feel like a lot of games have complexity with patterns to learn and inputs to manage, but you never have the depth or creativity outside maybe pvp

>>1843939
I guess the reason no one else attempted this is because it's a balance nightmare, but it's worth it

>>1843939
Well, the way GW1 works is unique like with interrupt & overcast, and well thought out, but each piece is pretty simple. I guess I mean complexity in terms of how many influences there are, inputs as you say. Like with a melee attack, if it's in range, it hits, simple as, and we move on to damage calculation. If you are using a dodge or block skill or there is a condition like blindness, there's % chance it misses; there's no comparing DEX scores to determine hit chance, accuracy vs evasion, stuff like that. Magic spells tend to be even more direct. Which is all fine, more doesn't mean better.
It's not a good comparison but stuff like the combat mechanics of Eve Online are significantly more complex, and it's very satisfying when you get it right and build up enough experience that it starts being intuitive even when so much of it is variable. In Path of Exile, skill interaction is bonkers but kinda broken. Most RPGs have the 5+ stats plus equipment attribute bonuses that make them a constant adjustment of finding the "just right" set. But GW1 already gets it just right in that it's actually very straightforward, so you don't need to be a level 999 math wizard to keep track of it or understand how stuff works. The skills and effects are individually simple, but they can openly interact with each other, and that means the devs can give you lots of skills to choose from and it isn't a nightmare of balance and unintended interactions - But you're limited to 8, there's only so much you can do with attributes, so you do need to have a plan. But you're not locked into your attribute choices either, you can change them as much as you want. GW1 has an interesting mix of limitations and freedoms, and the limitations provide positive challenge instead of being annoying restrictions.

tl;dr GW1 is like a big box of lego pieces while some other RPGs are like a balsa model kit. I never feel like I need to re-learn everything each time I come back to it.

>>1843858
2pm est i think im retarded need to update it

>suddenly remember that the dead Steam group exists

>kamabox is down
how am I going to screw people over now???

>>1846302
now is the perfect time to screw people over
it's like when the rune traders run out and you can sell blessed insigs for 1-2 ecto each

I just finished A Time for Heroes for the first time, I thought I was doing something wrong and about to get bamboozled when The Great Destroyer died in about 5 seconds. Weird how this was made after Factions and Nightfall, which had decently challenging boss fights with Shiro and Varesh.

>>1846482
abaddon or varesh?
I think the great destroyer was supposed to summon more mobs around him, but they didn't fix it

>>1846488
Eh, imo Abaddon is barely a fight, more like a competency check even if you're a nooblet like me. As long as you don't simply unga bunga spacebar 1 2 3 4 5 and sit in the middle it's pretty easy to weather. The odd thing about the Destroyer is that it took so little doing to kill, I was expecting more of a steady grind like so many other bosses but it folded before I could finish my normal chain of skills.

Upon reading the wiki about it, it looks like Pain Inverter is a cheat code for instantly deleting this boss, and I do use that skill.

>>1846507
yeah EotN and nightfall both introduced a ton of powercreep in this game but EotN especially. PI instantly evaporates most bosses.

Mallyx is probably hardest boss in the game imo, followed by dhuum and kanaxi. Duncan the black is kinda nasty too if you don't cheese him.

I kinda wish anet had more time with this I feel like after EotN they really started to figure out how to make challenging content and it would of been cool to see more challenging boss fights.

>>1843598
I only wear Elite Kurzick for a reason.

>>1843697
>>1846587
This is why i use vabbian legs on my assassin

>>1846291
4chan is back, thanks Allah (PBUH)

>>1846482
ATFH is a mission where either your party gets flattened right away or the Great Destroyer rolls over and dies in a minute.

>>1846291
we made it when 4chan went down, I still occasionally post events to it fuckers need to request to join and then tell me they've done so. Have 2 people sitting in the request queue and can't figure out who they are.

>one nigga and his 3 multibox alts is just cycling the same 20 messages trying to sell garbage green and q9 weapons
killing this fag with spike traps

>>1846665
PBUH

>>1841801
> IDing stuff raising its gold value
Wow, I didn't realise this applied to white items, thanks a lot

It's free zcoin ZM day today

>>1846721
i, necro hoarder, sent a request like a month ago, (west)

>>1842961
Want to play guy who attack thing? Pick warrior
Want to play guy who cast fireball? Pick elementalist
Want to play guy who heal? Pick monk
Want to play guy who does all of the above? Pick necromancer
You have three older brothers? Pick paragon.

>>1846482
Did you cast pain inverter on it and forget to disable your heroes' interrupts?

>>1849683
Considering I went into the encounter blind and therefore did not do anything to prepare my heroes, yes. I kept it on bar bar as soon as I got it because it combos like hell with Empathy.

>>1849767
When he gets interrupted, he does an attack that hits everything in a massive AoE for a bunch of damage. So he will take the max damage that pain inverter can cause, multiplied by your party size (8) plus any spirits, minions, pets, etc. It will kill him almost instantly.

>>1850162
So if he's under Pain Inverter he gets lmao'd by his own party wipe button? lol, seems like a huge oversight by the devs. I'm going to go back and see what he fight is like without it.

>>1851140
>seems like a huge oversight by the devs
a bunch of the pve skills are retardedly broken, maybe intentionally maybe out of laziness

>>1851140
All of EotN was designed in a half-assed fashion with assets they started making for a real campaign before deciding they wanted to make GW2 instead and used what they had already to introduce a GW2 tie-in.
The PvE skills are all hilariously busted and you'll see the same dungeon levels copy-pasted four times.

>>1851140
it's a bit funny since EotN also has a dungeon boss (Duncan) that perfectly counters Pain Inverter by having his own passive Pain Inverter monster skill. So they definitely know it was gonna be a problem but just didn't do anything for the final boss of the expansion for some reason

baker-san, do you have any breads?

>>1851601
if we get closer to the edge I'll do a shitty one, but we're 14 threads out so I'll wait for someone who cares about formatting and shit
t. nonbaker

>>1846553
Yea I heavily dislike the direction after factions
Adding heroes was great, but the new pve skills and grinding for ranks are retarded

If I hang on to completed zaishen missions do I get the double rewards when I turn them in during the bonus next week?

>>1852011
I like pretty much everything about the Factions campaign, and I liked the locations and content from NF but it seemed really off-putting when very early on starting a NF character your main quest is literally just grind to level 5 and then again to level 10. There's just barely enough quests from NPCs during those to not need to simply grind as long as you grab the bounties each time you leave an outpost. EotN really does play like a grab bag of pieces of unfinished campaigns, but I don't hate it. I just wish we got more.
Honestly it doesn't bother me too much that things are broken in the pve parts of games, GW1 still has plenty of challenging stuff in it.

>>1852011
Another thing is profession design:
Before nightfall, monk was the only profession with a primary attribute discouraging secondary profession (only useful with monk skills)
But both nightfall professions have this flaw

>>1853218
>nightfall professions have this flaw
ur not running a charge/watch yourselves/shields up para build?

>>1853239
Damn you're right, I forgot about that

>>1852846
yes

>>1853401
Sweet