>12-30% of total competitive FPS players are hacking

How do you feel about the fact you'll probably be playing against cheaters in every game?

Not all of them are idiots with zero recoil. Some just use soft aimbots and ESP no one can tell the difference from a really good player. Even Valorant has hackers despite having the strictest anticheat.

>>1780261 (OP)
It's not that high. I'd say maybe 5% on average, though it depends on the game, recent sales, gamemode, region, etc. The most common remain aimbots and wallhacks, and for the aimbots it's almost always "soft" these days as anything else gets caught too quickly. Over time I've seen fewer triggerbots (although this can be tricky since newer ones sometimes add a delay or variable delay) and more anti-aim (or auto-movement when the cheater is targeted, which has the same effect but looks natural)

How do I feel about it? It's annoying. I'm good enough to thrash most cheaters but at the same time I find myself doing more and more pub stomping and less competitive gamemodes, because when a player who is skilled under normal circumstances starts using soft hacks, good fucking luck proving it. And that shit just ruins competition.

>>1780261 (OP)
it's why I stopped playing PvP games in general
little timmy can just use his mom's credit card to buy the latest wallhax so he can prefire every corner, but only when there's a player to be killed, and you get called a schizo for pointing it out

The only enjoyable time I have playing FPS is low rank. Because everyone there either is starting/sucks/plays for fun. While the moment you begin to climb in rank you get some faggot who has cheats. Which makes no sense, does the person think the moment they hit Predator/Celestial/I don't know other rank names they're going to get signed to an esports organization?

>>1780917
To be fair that's because lower ranks are full of actual punching bag level noobs and you can easily dunk on them all with minimal effort.

I'm sure your percentage is based on something real, not your own conjured-up feelings.

>>1780261 (OP)
And a good 90% of regular players.

Everyone knows it.

>>1780261 (OP)
I don't have a crutch.

>>1782069
12-30% is agreed conservative industry figures. if anything it's probably worse

>>1780261 (OP)
maybe if recoil wasn't so random in modern shooters people wouldn't feel the need to circumvent it. recoil diamonds take skill out of the equation.

>>1786278
>It's the games fault!

Why can't zoomers handle video games?

>>1795874
they want to play a different game, but that other game is full of more malicious hackers or had its servers shutdown to force you to play lootbox garbage.

>>1795880
Stop playing slop problem solved

>>1795887
no retard, install hacks problem solved
you're not too bright, are ya?

>>1795887
>just give up
KWAB

Eventually all games will require SSN and to provide documentation of who you are, sort of like Asia. Then you will see cheating curbed in really nice games. It’s a problem that only exists right now due to technological limitation. When your entire life is wound up in biometric dna and tracking into your gaming life, unable to circumvent or use other peoples identities, gaming will flourish. But is that really how you want it to be?

>>1800161
I like SSNs. More games should have them.

>>1785938
>conservative industry figures
Pathetic attempt to make yourself look more intelligent than you are. Average bitchbaby that whines about cheating is a dumb bitch.

>t. cheater

>>1780376
Even if 5% was the best case (it's probably higher) that means that every other game is ruined by a cheater in a 5v5.
And that every apex lobby has cheaters.

>>1802058
t. cheating jeet

>>1780261 (OP)
i play the game for myself idc what other people do in it
personally my goal is to improve my skill at it
if you cheat though i do think you are a looser, that's about it

crazy how if you youtube "how to set up dma cheats" it gives you a nice list of people we should kill first in the purge, where do zoomzooms get off thinking this is okay? is it a failure of the parents and must they also die aswell?

The three truths:

- Blatant cheating is easy to detect.
- Soft cheating is indistinguishable from strong players.
- No lobby can be perfectly evenly matched.

Maybe I lost to a cheater or maybe I lost to the strongest player in the match. Why worry if I can't know?

>>1811386
because there is no point in playing a game without fair play

this is like going to boxing championship where nobody is screened for steroids and injecting lead in their gloves

honestly the only fps game i've played where i'm convinced A LOT of people cheat is CSGO/CS2

i've been killed by a cheater in cod warzone but i never saw the rampant cheating others talk about. hunt showdown i used to see people talking about cheaters all the time but i put a lot of hours into that game and i dont think i was ever killed by a cheater

Cheating in videogames is retarded. If you want to be a hacker just get a job in the intelligence community(Earth Intelligence Agency(EIA)) and fight crime or do cybersecurity. IMHO the best solution is delayed killcams and taking the 'score'/'stat tracking' out of games so theres no incentive to cheat. For example, one of the best FPS games out there, Squad, had no unlocks and no persistent stats, so there are generally fewer cheaters.

>>1780261 (OP)
The last time I played a multiplayer FPS (and the last time I hacked) was the original Planetside. I got tired of getting sniped by hackers from the other side of the map and decided to snipehack them back. And then I got banned within 20 minutes. Good thing I didn't buy that game.

>>1824808
Adding to this: it was an extremely fun game, aside from those hackers.

>>1780261 (OP)
>12-30% of total competitive FPS players are hacking
i assume it's 30+% and its one reason i don't play multiplayer anymore.

I'm not gonna' lie. I don't hack, but I do cheat. I use rapid fire and Anti-Recoil and a setting the wiggles my character to engage RAA. I got tired of getting lasered by people clearly cheating the same way I do now, so I just joined them. Fuck it.

>>1825813
Why even play at all?

>>1824912
It probably varies by region. Everywhere outside North America seems to have a cheating problem. North America has a history of playing games for fun while respecting other people's fun. Third worlders want to feel powerful at everyone else's expense.

And Western Europe gets forced to play with second worlders from Eastern Europe, whether that's due to the region including them, or them using VPNs to escape each other.

>>1831152
Asian face saving is tragic. It's embedded in their culture that cheating is valid. They can lie straight to your face while simultaneously believing it's reality. The win is all that matters and they'll mock you like they earned it fair and square while having no self awareness whatsoever. The other end of the spectrum are the legit sweaty tryhards how play 80+ hours a week and exploit every min max and cheese to maximize the win potential. At least they are playing, but they're both a cancer.

>>1782069
In about every fps on the market, once you hit a certain elo/mmr, you start to see more and more people cheating. People pre aiming angles, people hitting nutty headshots consistently despite having no game sense. Its subtle but you'll see a not so insignificant amount of people using shit like cornus zens, xims and other bullshit.

>>1831800
>The win is all that matters and they'll mock you like they earned it fair and square while having no self awareness whatsoever.
Yep, like JP devs being outraged over Palworld "stealing" from Pokemon, while their videogame history is full of shit they stole from western devs. Like Castlevania stealing western horror characters, Castlevania 2 stealing cover art from a D&D module, Metal Gear using a traced scene from Terminator for western box art, Metal Gear 2 using the likenesses of a bunch of western celebs, etc.