Season 7 Inbound

CNS vs Vaiiya
New Map
Light gets a Healing SMG
Medium get a Floor Destroyer
New Healing Orb deployable

Join "Vidya" to play with other anons

FGS Showcase for those that missed it/watched a stream where it got cut off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioYCTDoYEnw

AHA, I was right when I thought a healing gun was gonna come in someday

>Light healing SMG
Why
I mean, ok. but why
>Medium floor drill
????
Hello?? Demat???
Why would I want something that is louder and takes longer to open a wall when demat exists
>Healing orb
Cool, I like this, but I feel this season will make fights a drag since every class now has some sort of healing item. Not a fan of it and it once again serves as a further nerf to healbeam

>>1787483
>Why would I want something that is louder and takes longer to open a wall when demat exists
Because the end-all be-all answer is that you're a retard if you don't take Healing Beam. This has always been true throughout the entire game's lifecycle, and will continue even with the Healing SMG and Orb.

That's why, back when Recon Senses were a thing, they gave him a Sonar Grenade to test and see who were the noobs that would take the worse spec that barely any of them would use in a team-context, and who was going to take the gadget that does the same thing but slightly "worse" while letting you take the infinitely better spec.

Now they're doing the same with Demat

>>1787504
Bait used to be believable

I will not be satisfied until all SH1900 users are dead

>No new weapons
I mean, eh.

>>1787506
This isn't /v/ or /vg/, you don't have to steep yourself in 5000 layers of irony to protect your ego or shitpost to bump the thread. You can actually engage in discussion for once. I suggest you try it instead of adding non-posts like yours to the thread.

>>1787528
Says the man who's clearly stoking a fire for the sake of ragebaiting with false information. Nice try.

>giving lightweight healing shit
has expected, they desperately trying to make that shit class useful, but little do they know that it will not change shit, most lightweight are COD tier subhumans who will keep losing, just remove this shitty class already, only kept alive because they are the biggest whales

>>1787604
The irony of the whole situation is that Light is already great for teamplay, but they try to add shit like this to make it more blatant, and in the process, it'll undoubtedly run counter to what makes Lights actually useful for the game.

>>1787457
this game has terrible seizure inducing ADHD trailers
why the fuck do i have to watch at 0.25 speed and keep pausing to see whats new
people unfamiliar with the game would have no understanding of what the fuck that was

>>1788173
It's a seizure-inducing ADHD game. The trailers are great for it
>why do I have to watch at 0.25 to see what's new
The fuck? It was pretty blatant with the new gadgets.

>>1788187
i still didnt see the healing smg
or understand the medium floor destroyer? they have demat.

>>1788189
>i still didnt see the healing smg
Blind as hell then. The guy switched guns to one that had the Medigun parts on top and was shooting blue healing crosses, which they then did a cowboy shot of
>or understand the floor destroy, they have demat
The floor destroyer is when you wanna leave Gold and move on to Diamond by actually taking the right specs and gadgets to play as a team, rather than using demat.

I hope they do the identity of CNS justice. They've got a bit too much intrigue about them and what the system underneath the simulation is for them to just turn out to be the original developers that are hacking their way back in for credit

>>1788189
>>1787483
and heavy has charge so he doesn't need c4, hammer or ks23, that's a stupid argument.

>>1788317
I'm interested to see what they come up with.

>>1787604
>most lightweight are COD tier subhumans who will keep losing
sounds like it's the fault of the players then desu

I loved this game but it legitimately gets less fun every patch, with the exception of season 4 being better than season 3

>>1788206
The floor destroyer is when you wanna leave Gold and move on to Diamond

>>1788323
>and heavy has charge so he doesn't need c4, hammer or ks23, that's a stupid argument.

>>1788528
You're right. With posts like yours, you weren't getting to Gold, let alone Diamond

so what are anons' hopes and fears for next season? I hope that there's gonna be more fun to be had with the new stuff they added and also hope they'll make stuff like head hunter permanant events along with adding the dead go boom variant back.

>>1788610
i'm also hoping they'll add las vegas' lasers and tripwires variant back to the game

>>1788610
KS-23 buff
Perfect accuracy, no falloff
Give it to me

>>1788592
You wanna back it up with facts next time little man?

>>1788610
>actually using the only proper hair on the anime face
Finally someone with taste.

>>1788610
>Hopes
Ranked/Tournament mode rebalance. Remove the ability to double the last cash and re-introduce harsher cash on loss penalties.
XP nerf
DB nerf
I'm half expecting a Gate nerf to range. A hunch more than anything
Hammer nerf and hopefully fixing lingering hitboxes
A little buff to the winch with the stun
work on busting down account selling, paid boosting and alt account/boosting. Seriously, I know of atleast 15 accounts in Ruby rank that were boosted to said rank by 2 guys. They charge so much too, it's insane.

>Fears
With the abundance of new healing items, every fight will now be a massive drag since heavy can just drop dome/Barr/whatever and deploy the healing drone. Passive healing with no shooting restrictions aren't a good idea, there's a reason why mediums are capped in speed and can't shoot while healing. Light has enough flex spots to accomodate the heal gun so I think it will be an annoyingly prevalent tool that makes fights a chore.
XP doesn't get nerfed or if it does, it's like the previous nerf where they changed absolutley nothing
same with DB
New map sucks

>>1788628
>RS
pffffffffffftttttttttttttttttt
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH
What a fucking loser. Go back to bed little timmy, we're talking about the actual Finals.

>>1788648
Oh my god you're talking about WT rank????
Hahaha
man it must be tough living with disabilities

>>1788649
>man it must be tough living with disabilities
You'd know, ranked baby. I'm not the one playing in the gay little playpen where everyone plays it safe because anything that takes skill is therefore """inconsistent"""" because "what if I miss." Funny how WT players never have that issue, lmao. Almost like it's the actual game and therefore the players are objectively better.

>>1788650
Hahahahaha

Swapping to DLAA from DLSS quality makes invisible lights a lot easier to spot. Worth the FPS loss for me, especially when half my lobbies recently are dash lights trying to shove their double barrel shotgun up my ass

Do people still play this?

>>1788701
somehow

HOLY SHIT
well they didnt give Light healing grenades, but the heavy healing totem came true
I think I made this during season 2

>>1788963
I disagree with the idea that everyone should have some sort of sidegrade item on every class desu

Healbeam was already gutted to hell and back, it's hardly used these days, having other classes have semi-healing items with less severe drawbacks (with healbeam you can't run while healing nor can you shoot) feels like a cop out.
But at the same time, we really needed some new gadgets or atleast a spec. Last time we had a new specialization was 3 seasons ago, about to be 4

>>1789031
>I disagree with the idea that everyone should have some sort of sidegrade item on every class desu
I tend to agree with everything other than healing

either NOBODY should have healing, or every class should get some form of healing

as we saw with the last... most of this game's life, if only Medium gets the healing beam then no matter what at least 1 Medium is always a must have in any team, while the same is not necessarily true at all for Light or Heavy

Heavy does not need healing, he already has multiple ways of protecting/supporting his team with shields
Also it being a ball that's able to roll around sounds like it'll be frustrating to use

>>1789269
>say it's a bad thing to give Heavy healing because it will be too strong
>complain about the aspect of it that makes it somewhat balanced and nuanced to use
pick a lane

>>1789320
I was implying it's unnecessary more than a bad thing. He has already more interesting ways to play support than HP number go up that other classes can already cover

>>1789232
I'm of the idea that classes should have defined roles rather than being a jack of all trades master of none kinda deal

>>1789357
that's a great idea, but at this point it's far too late for that

>>1789269
>enemies will be able to pick up your healing ball and chuck it far away
holy shit that's funny

>>1789269
Yeah, giving him healing just seems pointless. I don't think many people will take it anyways, and class identity pushes against it anyways, but it's still something a lot of bad players will take
>>1789320
He didn't say it was too strong, just that he does not need to have it, but
>balancing via frustration
this has never, EVER, been something anyone likes

>>1789269
The demat is still better than the drill UNLESS the drill has multiple uses and recharges faster than the demat otherwise is just another pointless gimmick

>>1790108
>UNLESS the drill has multiple uses and recharges faster than the demat
Even with that it'll be a worse pick. Instantly being able make openings and reseal them provides insane flexibility that a delay breach charge with a flashbang gimmick can't. Without a rework or nerf to the demat I can't see drill being worth picking over it (or the heal beam)

>>1789269
i already know how ill be using this

>dome sheild + heal ball around a corner and rape with minigun
>throw dome sheild at enemey, then heal ball, then flame/hammer them

>they can throw it away
yeah but they will probably be focused on me

>>1789382
>throw healing ball down on platform during powershift
>goo grenade going off tilts platform
>healing ball plinkos off heavy barricades and rolls off the platform
>>1790260
good a time as ever to teach people the importance of glitch grenades

>>1788610
>hopes
Vaiya cosmetics don't look like ass
buff to the breaching shotgun or maybe i'm just shit
"some doors are meant to be left open" means CNS being permitted to hack the Finals isn't just to fill an empty sponsor slot but that the Finals is acting as a honeypot to catch hackers. All subsequent CNS involvement in future seasons is more aggressive and malicious having been scorned.
>fears
new map has lame ass "destroyed walls and floors just disappear" like the last CNS map
healing gadgets are too good

>>1789269
M and L's healing gadgets at least require you to be a gun down in a fight.
Either that healing emitter is on par with the health canister or HHH is going to be the new meta

>>1790306
>Vaiiya cosmetics don't look like ass
True, even though absolutely no one will be picking Vaiiya, it'd be good for when they return as a sponsor later on
>buff to the KS-23, or maybe I'm just shit
No, the KS-23 is objectively terrible. The TTK is awful, being x2-3 slower at killing Heavies than all his other guns. The defining characteristic of Heavy's guns is that they can kill a full stack in one mag, except for the KS-23 where you can barely kill 2 Mediums before having to reload--with a reload speed that's barely faster than the Minigun. It's a projectile that you gotta adjust for at long ranges but has some of the worst fall-off in the game. It's got unstable accuracy, so the only playstyle left that could work with it (i.e. bob and weave) isn't usable. All that just to be able to poke oft-tiny holes in things if you shoot usually a minimum of 3-4 times, sometimes more depending on the material.

You see anyone using it, they are living on a prayer and a dream for how much they miss the old version and want such an otherwise/potentially satisfying gun to work.

new gadgets look usefull but boring
wheres the fun shit

>>1788629
It's a cute hairstyle, and most of the other hairs don't look great aside from the ponytail one. The recent valkyria eyeliner and the one that comes with the banana outfit also look cute on her.

I got diamond once, fucking horrible experience.
World tour is fucking boring and shit too.
I only player power shift and TDM now, they're the best gamemodes in the finals.

>>1790580
TDM is infested with aimbot cheaters too, honestly is surprising the game is still alive at all

>>1790586
>honestly is surprising the game is still alive at all
In my opinion, the finals has always had a pretty sketchy population count.
The subreddit is sitting at a consistent 100+ players online, while games with higher pop counts don't even get close to that.
Similarly, the finals has a relatively high twitch count, comparable to otherwise well known popular titles.
Meanwhile, this supposedly healthy 10k+ player pop game has a meager YouTube presence and no quality or organic content creators and can't even keep a general alive on /VG/.
and not a single person I know at work or otherwise even know what it is.
I sincerely believe that Nexon pumps player counts on all their games, so its impossible to actually estimate where this game actually sits, but last I played the fucking queue was LOOOOONNNNGGG so yeah, healthy game that takes minutes to find a match..

>>1790632
>sitting at a consistent 100+ players online
*10,000+ players online

>>1790632
If you look at the clips posted on the subreddit a lot of them are from console players.
It wouldn't surprise me if the game has a moderately large casual console playerbase

>New map
>Half is gay neon pink retrowave le epic haxors bullshit
>the other half is cool mirror's edge

Why can't we get cool dystopian shit

Been trying to get good with the revolver but there's no worse feeling that flubbing an entire cylinder of shots while both your dead teammates are watching

>>1791322
have vaiiya win then

>>1791717
Revolver is just too inconsistent to be good. Relies a lot on having the hitboxes not be shit that day (spoiler, they almost always are)

>>1791717
I've been using it more and more lately. Now, every time I go back to the AK or FCAR I end up getting frustrated by how shit they feel and end up swapping back to the revolver.
It allows you to win fights you'd have otherwise just mathematically have lost. If you have 1/3 HP against an FCAR you can land 2 headshots and kill the other medium before he takes you out. Biggest outplay potential, massive chunk damage. Just really punishing when you're aim is off.

>>1790632
>but what about the subreddit
>but what about twitch numbers
>capitalizing /VG/
>confirming he's a third worlder that's in the slow queue regions
This is it.
This is the quintessential kind of mongoloid that doomposts about The Finals.

>>1792411
Yeah it feels incredible when you're hitting your shots. Especially 1shotting lightly damaged lights

>>1790586
No it just attracts good players

>>1792230
you're just missing

>>1793415
Not him but, yeah, I'd agree. I started clipping moments where I thought something funky was happening and it's less than 1/10 where a shot was dead on and didn't count.
What does happen often is unbelievably bad luck with bloom when hipfiring. 80% of my crosshair is on the opponent and multiple bullets go directly into that 20% that's not.

Okay, so I just started playing this yesterday. Is this game some black magic? I can't stop playing, it's so fucking fun.

Between here and the discord I genuinely don't understand how retarded niggers keep saying the game is "infested" with cheaters. I haven't seen a cheater since s1 and I have around 1500h. I play all modes I rank to plat or diamond I do world tour to emerald and I play casual modes with new friends, and I have NEVER run into people cheating like you faggots were not there for chinese crane faggots spawn killing all 6-9 enemies at once on spawn you people assume anytime you get out gunned someone os walling or cheating it's so retarded.

>>1794174
It'll be like that for awhile it's more fun with friends for sure but the honeymoon period is easily 100-200 hours before you even think of dropping it.

>New ULTIMATE battlepass
>30 bucks
>30 euros
>30 dobloons
>30 goddamn sheckles
They're outta their damn minds

>>1794296
There are quite a lot of cheaters man, I don't know how to tell you

>>1794312
Is there ANY proof at all I don't think it's a perfect anti cheat but I've seen none in my games for hundreds of hours across multiple game modes. Everything is just anecdotal people lose and scream the enemy is cheating.

>>1794304
Then don't buy it? The Finals has always had good cosmetics the purple tier shit is leagues better than any other modern FPS at least with mythics I know they'll deliver on quality unlike most games. Lol at price points for any other mainstream FPS then compare dollar to quality vs the finals and find 1 game that does it better.

>>1794302
I also sometimes meet people whose aiming is spastic. Are those cheaters or bots?

>>1794357
Usually if people look like they're spinbotting from 3rd person but aren't looking they're just lagging. Games like this tend to invite people with insane aim look at any top players tracking.

>>1794343
Why are you so defensive about this game? The shilling is painfully obvious

>>1794468
>Why are you so defensive
I said give me an example of a better game with the same price point monetization and this is your rebuttal. If you don't like it don't buy it but every other competitive game charges the same or higher prices for worse cosmetics. It's not "shilling" pointing out how retarded you are and how your complaint falls flat in the modern industry. Useless buzzwords and formulate an actual response.

>>1794493
500 multibucks have been deposited in your account

>>1794504
I accept your concession maybe try >>>/lgbt/ plenty of other dicksucking troons just like you.

>>1794331
Balise uses exploits
I also had plenty "Thank you for reporting" messages but they just did a wipe recently

clip of balise shooting through dome, he also abused the invisible loadout glitch for a bit

there's also an RS loss prevention exploit but no clue on that one

the season where I'd get reporting messages the most had to be S3 and S4, atleast one a day

>>1794343
>Cannot be bought with ingame currency
ell ayy am oh

>>1794296
If you don't see cheaters, then you're definitely not in the skill bracket to run into them. They're mostly in ranked and world tour, your going to be running into them in plat and above.

>>1794542
i guess they are desperate for more money, makes me remember apex shit

>>1787450 (OP)
>30$ for ULTIMATE BP
>no bonus pages for old BPs
>new cosmetics tier
I see that they're gonna be squeezing the playerbase dry before the vacations begin

>>1794531
Buddy, your life would be a lot more enjoyable if you weren't so buck broken with ranked obsession that you'd name players like anyone else would know or care who the fuck they are.

>>1795245
Balise is the number 1 player

dubstep gun CONFIRMED

>>1795259
I didn't stutter, so it's pretty egregious that I have to reiterate
>your life would be a lot more enjoyable if you weren't so buck broken with ranked obsession that you'd name players like anyone else would know or care who the fuck they are

>>1795608
phahah

>breach drill confirmed USELESS
Wow, a louder and slower breaching tool on the class that already has the best breach spec in the whole game.

>>1795661
its about cool factor and looking cool when you enter th room

>breach drill confirmed GOATED
Wow, a gadget with enough presence and an added wall-clipping flash grenade to act as an immense pivot point for setplay beyond just breaching, given to a class that can take it while keeping the best teamplay spec in the game.

>>1794296
If you play ranked you'll see quite a few. Outside of that there's basically none.

I want artwork of three SSBW-styled APS bloated and lying over with cum dribbling out and their bussies, stuffed with CL40 nades in every hole, while three CL40s lie on the ground near silhouettes made of coins from a grenadier trio that thought they were hot shit.

>>1794296
Does the game run on servers that aren't owned by members of the community? Is it an FPS? Then it has a cheating problem.

>>1795785
they will be flashbanged, they cant fucking see the cool entry nigga

is it worth buying the season 1 & 2 battlepass? kind of annoyed you cant earn the multibux from them

i have never spent ANY money on this game but have battlepass 3 onwards

>>1795952
Season 1, probably not. There's a few decent weapon skins in there, but as far as the skins go, very few really go with anything else in the game due to fabric types, unique colors, and ones that take up both upper and lower body. It's basically just the Boxer set that you can mix and match, as it's one of the few sources of shorts in the game and the red robe does loot great with a lot of other cosmetics.

Season 2, it's a decent get. Still has some 10/10 skins, and a lot of the outfit pieces this time around actually go with a lot of other sets, so even if you don't love the ones they're meant to go with, you have a lot of options for mixing and matching. I'm actually kind of sad to see the chrome jacket no longer be a special option to go with the rest of the chrome set.

>$30 ULTIMATE Battle Pass
>get no new CNS skins that'll actually go with the ones from S2
Okay?

>>1790366
whats worse is that it doesn't breach shit like 90% of the time

>>1796066
This is the thing that baffles me the most. Like it's already egregious that breaking through walls isn't consistent, with some taking 3 shots and others I swear taking upwards of 5-8, but then you have the fact that your reward is just that single bit of the terrain, nothing adjacent, nothing deeper.

You could mag dump just to break open the equivalent of a porthole...to the BUILDING IMMEDIATELY ON THE OTHER SIDE, but oooo we gotta focus on making sure Demat can hit a wide area and whether it goes deep enough. It just makes no sense.

>>1795962
>skins
foreskins.

>>1796144
haha

>change default spec button for the light's dash to mouse's sidebutton
>instantly better at the game
You become fucking immortal, left-rigth dash spam is too good

>>1796300
I found that out super early into the game. Top side button is for spec and lower is for slide. Turns out its common knowledge whenever I see other players gameplay. It also makes demat super comfortable to use while airborne

>>1796313
I use that soley for the dash, on every other class I much prefer Q

>Emerald riot shield skin
Well fuck. How bad is the grind to emerald? Is this like a full season commitment or what?

>>1796726
>This means that the journey to Emerald will be shortened by about 25% for the average player.
enough people seem to have complained that they made it easier

>Hammer got nerfed
HaHa

>>1796977
Bullshit. Source? There's no fucking way they would nerf it more.

>>1796980
nta but I was also digging around on the discord and saw this. Guessing someone was autistically testing this during the preview event. I wish they would fix the fucking lingering hit boxes rather than the damage.

>>1796986
>sword still trash
>instead of buffing it like they said they would they are just gonna nerf every melee weapon

What the fuck is wrong with these devs?

>>1796994
They know what's up
hammer's right click needed a nerf desu

>>1796986
Appoh said the developers told them ALL that the test build was not the final build which is why they did not bother to give them patch notes for any weapons. Sledge is unironically terrorizing high ranks it and the Minigun will almost certainly be nerfed.
>>1796994
>crying about melee
It should never be top tier either gitgud or use a gun. They're absolutely right to nerf any melee weapon that becomes meta because it's an FPS game first. Melee weapons instakilling you while inside your fucking hitbox + having the retarded auto lunge on melee aim assist is not fun and never will be. I still play with sword and win in platdia lobbies. Worst case scenario it's relegated to a quickcash weapon like the heavy grenade launcher and shit, but NO ONE of value wants sword rebuffed.

Give me one good reason to use the FCAR over the AK. Those 7 extra bullets are invaluable

>>1796994
You're gonna call me a shit, but sword was busted for a lot longer than literally any other weapon. Hell lights in general have been getting a free pass for quite a while and receive the most buffs out of any class. Dagger with its bizarre back stab hitboxes and light attack range being equal to the riot shield while attacking way faster for some reason. Glitch mines get nerfed because babies can't skirt away with evasive dash, mines in general (minus the pyro) get nerfed because they insta kill idiots that walk over them, cl-40 gets nerfed into the ground for multiple seasons, but the second it gets a slight buff there's a huge outcry for nerfs. Lights say everyone needs to git gud to deal since they're glass cannons, well I say those glass cannons need to learn how to counter everyone elses shit. I hate having to switch off a weapon I enjoy just to counter some light dashing shit whos not playing the objective anyway.

>>1797028
Better range and no recoil

>>1796986
>>1797021
>no dude, no seriously, dude, Ranked players aren't shitters dude, you're totally just shitposting bro
>it's totally not a playpen hugbox where every strategy that takes skill and risk but is also more effective if you pull it off gets ignored
>they totally don't beg for these things to get nerfed and taken out of the game when someone actually does use them and thus absolutely WRECKS their shit
>take ranked players seriously..........guys........please......I worked hard for my rank.........I'm not a shitter.........I put so much stock in agreeing with the ranked dudes..............come on.......................
Meanwhile
>let's nerf Hammer into irrelevance because Ranked players can't shoot the giant fatass coming at them at 2mph

Vindication has never tasted so good and hurt so much

>>1796986
meleeGODS, we're losing the battle...

Which sponsor will anons be choosing tomorrow?

>>1797206
The CNS drip actually kinda sucks. More spandex that'll only go with select outfits. The jacket looks too similar to what's in the pass and doesn't really shout "CNS" in a way that matches the previous items. I mean, no glitch effect? Only one rainbow? Not pink or purple? Glasses instead of a helmet is also extremely lame, and the FAMAS skin is alright but....meh

I think if I went with Vaiiya in S5, I'd seriously consider going with them tomorrow, even without knowing what their Tier 2 is gonna be

The only weapon I want to see nerfed is the double barrel shotgun.
>don't spot the cloaked ligger before he dashes up your asshole
>dead
Is no fun to play against. A good hammer player is annoying but you can play around him easy enough with a coordinated team

>>1797216
>>1797206
I like the CNS stuff personally. But I do really think the Vaiiya is very cool. But I did not pick Vaiiya last time, so I'd be stuck with the previous set of cosmetics, and I know I do not care for those. So CNS it is.

>>1797327
Personally, I thought Vaiiya was a pretty decent set, and a good addition to the limited amount of proper white clothing. I just didn't go with them because DISSUN had the black enough pants to go with a chestpiece of mine, and I thought it'd be better to hedge bets with them that their Tier 2 set would eventually be even better.

If Vaiiya Tier 2 is great tomorrow, Imma be miffed

>>1797335
Their tier 1 stuff was "fine" but I too preferred Dissun's stuff, I guess is a better way to say. It was just "fine" on the first go. Second seems like it'll be better though. Hopefully Dissun Tier 2 isn't paired against OSPUZE or CNS

>>1797350
I'd say DISSUN's stuff was more in the just "fine" camp, due to the fact that its only unique piece was the chest, and even then I think it reused some modeling from another set. It was really just a matter of colors and potentiality, whereas Vaiiya had colors and a sick ass mask.

I dunno, maybe the more deciding factor for me is the fact that Vaiiya is stooges + most of the white pieces I'd mix them with is other Vaiiya gear, and they're not one I'd rep all-out like DISSUN or OSPUZE. Like for as much as I'll rag on things like the DISSUN pants that I valued so much just being the Temple Guard pants that could've been just switched from IVADA at the last minute, it did help give me a better Black DISSUN Ranger set.

>>1797403
>I'd say DISSUN's stuff was more in the just "fine" camp
I understand that viewpoint from the angle of "originality" because even as someone who liked Dissun most, I agree that most of their gear was slightly altered recolors. I just happened to like those recolors, as well as just the "personality" of Dissun in general. That plus the hopes of whats to come with them is what swayed me to them over others. I do agree that Vaiiya got the best in terms of original cosmetics. Its just their originality didn't win me out over the rest I guess.

>>1796313
>lower is for slide
make it quick melee imo

>>1796726
easy if you win
still very doable if you dont

>>1796977
>>1796980
>>1796986
if this is true im probably going to quit playing
hammer was my one true love
was about to spend $30 too but fuck that

just a few more hours

I'm often on the side of comp players when it comes to balance changes to a game but this recent habit of wanting melee nerfed simply because they don't like the playstyle is so incredibly weak.

It's official, Heavy isn't even allowed to swing a stick around too hard

>93R Buff
I mean, the gun is already pretty good. Not top tier for the light but still
>Grav cube buff
And STILL nobody will ever use it
>APS buff
meh
>Flash changes
I will still get 100% flashed by my teammates in TDM
>Goo nade nerfs
Halle-fuckin-luja
>Cashout spawn rework
FINALLY
>Ranked RS protections
Thank you, I know this will make soloquers happy.
Still not seeing a "last cashout can't be doubled" patch though.
>WT now gives point even if you loose the first round
lmao
>Cerberus nerf
THANK YOU JESUS
>Lh1 buff
why
>Minigun and KS enviromental damage buff
who cares
>Sledge nerf
I hate my man heavy getting nerfed, but it was fucking coming.
>Ranked rewards now include gadgets
YES
>S7 diamond reward is the fucking sniper (Yet another fucking light weapon, twice in a row)
NO
>Ruby is the ShAK
welp, looks like I'm buckling down this season
>FOOTSTEP SOUNDS CAN BE HEARD NOW
PRAISE THE LORD IT ONLY TOOK THEM 7 SEASONS BUT THEY GOT THERE IN THE END
>No XP nerf
>No DB nerf
fuck you
>Healbeam wasn't buffed
An already underpicked gadget will now completly get sidelined by the new healing gadgets. Lmao
>demat wasn't changed either, so breaching drill will 100% useless trash
L M A O

>>1797494
i dont understand how the fuck they can nerf the hammer and not touch the DB

>>1797502
Because they legit think that light has no way of getting upclose to an enemy.
despite having best mobility, invis, dash, gates and other bullshit.

The hammer nerf was coming but the DB not getting nerfed is retarded

>>1797494
>I hate my man heavy getting nerfed, but it was fucking coming.
Silence, Rankoid. This is a thread for people that are actually good at the game and don't play in the shitter queues

>>1797510
go crying

>you cant set your player number to 69 or 88

Wow the CNS sponsor shit looks like ass

Thankfully I already signed with Vaiiya before so I'll just do that again

>ULTIMATE Battle pass rewards are worse than the normal bp
kek, 30 bucks well spent

>>1797536
the vaiiya one is just a reskin of the crisis clippers with a baseball cap
i normally love vaiiya style but i switched to CNS

>have literally the entire community saying "don't nerf the fucking sledge holy shit just do something to winch" a full day in advance
>move forward with nerfs everyone is criticizing anyway
bold

>>1797552
Even the Winch crying is bullshit. If a Heavy lands the claw on a spastic target and then has the coordinated teamplay to put him down, then honestly, good. Still, I'd rather that get hit than the Hammer.

>>1797558
winch was always something people were vocally iffy about on any weapon. hammer nobody had beef with outside of the context of winch. why attack hammer, lmao

>>1797526
can't set it to 100 either

>>1797558
>winch a light
>he dashes to safety
>winch a cerb medium
>outgunned
They need to reintroduce the stun effect to winch

I'm not even a heavy main and I feel for them. Its insanely bad timing to release such a cool skin when they gimped it like this. One can only hope the devs realize the mistakes they made and release a weapon that slows targets down like the Natasha from tf2. The amount of mad that weapon generated was glorious.

>>1797109
>Same nigger comes here and cries about ranked every single time he posts
What are you vindicated about? You're not right about anything you've complained about. Ranked players are better than casuals like you simple as. Clearly baiting if you think hammer isn't overturned, people have been abusing it for 2 seasons while defending. Melee aim assist has a lunge mechanic attached to it no one is moving "2mph" they will leap across the room and one shot you or pull you with winch for instakill combo since they added damage to it. You're just a disingenuous little nigger who wants to seethe because he's too shit for ranked. It's fine if you want to be a casual but this retarded reverse elitism mindset is probably why you're a friendless loser, stick to tranny fortress 2 we do not want you in our game.

Funny seeing people compare the hammer to the DB. The DB only kills bad players you can't pull enemies into your range and instakill them while stunned. Light gets tazer removed for that exact reason along with nerfs to plenty of weapons because of it. Meanwhile you people think heavy should be able to kill lights and mediums in the duration of a winch pull. Winch leftclick quick melee had a way faster TTK than db on lights. Winch heavy swing was guaranteed on mediums since they don't have the mobility to get away. I understand for quicklyfags this isn't an issue but for everyone else it is.

>>1797898
winch should've been hit, not sledge. Sledge is what makes this game fun distilled. making it so that you can't kill a single light with it is abominable.

>>1797900
Right click still does 154 which is more hp than a light has? Removing left click instakill combo is absolutely the right thing to do especially with the current heal ball heavy sledge meta would devolve even further to sitting around corners on site to fish for one shots.

>>1797930
oh that's good you can kill a light that has died at their keyboard

giving heavy and light healing was a terrible fucking idea too, remove demat and buff medium's support back up. we do not need healing on every class in the game.

>>1797946
>weapon is now skill based and I don't like it
Then don't use it. Melee should be a higher skill cap than guns not a free out for bad players that can't aim and think ahead.

>healing
I agree somewhat but for different reasons. With more and more gadgets being added there's less slots it feels like. Medium usually has at least 2 gadget slots locked in with 1 mobility and then usually defibs or since I use the CL40 you have to run data reshaper. So the wall breach will likely not see any use. For heavy it's usually 1 defensive option(dome or barricades) + 1 destruction option(c4 rpg) then either pyro mines, lockbolt or the other destruction option. It feels like there's not alot of room for things like healing gadgets. Light could make a case for the gun since it's so flexible and only has 1 slot taken usually by gateway, but in exchange you're losing glitch grenades sonars or goo. I think a 4th gadget slot would be way too much though I do wonder what it would be like to be able to take more shit in.

>>1797998
there's nothing skill based about it shithead the weapon just sucks. melee already had hard counterplay, it was just dominant up close like it should be. which you know, so i'm going to stop engaging.

>>1787450 (OP)
>sledge nerf
They didn't need to do it, especially after releasing shit ton of hammer skins
What a dick move

>mfw repeatedly dunked on a ruby in TDM
I don't even give a shit about ranked haha, I never even made it to diamond

Does glitch grenade delete heal balls?
Already getting slapped by HHH triple ball

>>1798599
How much healing does it do?

>>1798582
To be fair. Your aim can be worse if your decision making and teamwork are on point in ranked.
But I too know the satisfaction of shitting on a ruby player in casual modes. It feels very nice.

>>1798599
It turns them off for whatever duration the glitch effect lasts, which I think might be 5 seconds. Had a ton of lights running glitch nades in the couple of ranked games I played earlier.

>>1798599
Displace them instead or gas out the room disabling them isn't gonna help

>Progress to round two
>Kicks me out and shows the post game of the previous match
>No reconnect option
>Restart game
>Still no reconnect
>Fuck it requeue
>Endless black screen
>Only option is ALT+F4
Servers are fucked. Better not eat a cooldown for their fuck up

>"failed to sync data from the backend servers"
Yeah, RIP

>>1799046
>>1799105
its the first day of a new season, this always happens, everyone and their mother is trying to play

>>1798599
I think medium data reshaper will be the way to go... It does work on them, right?

>>1797880
Don't bother, he's too stupid to understand and too bad at the game to realize he's wrong, let him live his fantasy

>>1798582
There are only roughly 200/250 legit rubies
and desu, american rubies are pretty much on par with EU diamonds

>>1799217
And where do you get this measurement from? I've never seen any videos of EU players having aim like the NA ones

>>1799252
>>1799217
Japan gets fighting games
Korea gets MOBA/RTS
China competes with Korea for the same Genre
EU gets FIFA games
NA Gets FPS.
Just genetics to be honest.

>>1799474
>NA gets FPS
Nah, that would be EU
NA are aim assist controller babies

Why the fuck KS-23 still has no fucking sights? Shitty ass M26 got 5 of them and they are useless since it does jackshit damage at distance and bullet pattern is the same when hipfiring, fucking swedes are too retarded now after being raped by refugees for a decade

>>1797880
Anon, you are crashing out this badly over getting hit hard by a stick after you pushed in too close to the slowest class in the game.
It's hilarious, do it more.

>>1799545
To be honest, I only hipfire that gun.

>>1799586
>crashing out
You must be 18 to use this website.
>Why yes I'm too retarded to understand why sledge got nerfed
Sorry that your quickplay crutch got corrected and put in line with everything else in the game. It's hilarious to me when an over preforming weapon gets smacked down there's always faggots to cry about it lmao. If you're struggling with the sledge post nerf you were never good with it to begin with.

>>1799474
Correct
>>1799535
Retard EU has never been good at anything but valve games. Russia wins half the tournaments for csgo and dota with the rest being other slavic and Norse countries. NA has always produced the best aimers in the world and always will.

>>1799586
>crashing out

>>1799662
>You must be 18 to use this website.
Indeed. Underage faggots like yourself that can't keep up with the silly weapon should both leave the game and the website
>Sorry that your quickplay cr--
Oh whoops, can't hear the rest of your post over the sound of rankoid heads getting bonked in because they can't handle a big stick. What's this about quickplay now?

>>1799787
>bad at the game and Illiterate

>>1799798
Indeed, rankoids are like that. Thank you for quoting me.

>ball has INFINITE health
>new meta is HLL with double heals
This season was a MISTAKE

>>1799806
>N..no u
Bad at the game Illiterate and brown

>>1799806
How buckbroken are you that you come to a thread about a competitive shooter and seethe over it having competitive modes

>>1799947
>to a thread about a competitive shooter
I get it, you're new, but you really should look into things before commenting on them. It's actually really funny how against Ranked and Competitive that Embark was in Season 1 and Season 2 (which are also the best seasons, whoa), and left the system waylaid while rankoids would seethe about how it all worked. They didn't put any effort in until Season 3, when Nexon started pressing down on their necks more and even made TA the main mode to be "the most competitive," and even then Embark's response was
>yeah but like, here's World Tour, it's the actual main mode, don't worry guys

Rankoids basically only exist in this ecosystem because Nexon wants eventually esports money. If it weren't for a shitty publisher, you'd be gone. You're already filtered down to your gay little playpen where you can't handle a STICK being bonked on your heads.

>>1800007
I've been playing since beta you're spreading misinfo and a head cannkn narrative the game released with ranked and has had ranked and ranked rewards for every single season. I've never seen such insane cope from anyone in my life this game was founded upon the idea of a competitive eco system. All casual modes came AFTER ranked as LTEs or added to the game at random. You have no idea what you're talking about and it shows. Maybe try troon fortress2 or some nintendo game like splatoon they seem more your speed.

>>1800007
>ranked exists
>troon seethes
What causes this

>>1800007
>I..i... HATE ranked... everyone is so much better than me... they nerf my broken meta weapons so I can't win anymore..

>>1800037
>I've never seen such insane cope from anyone in my life this game was founded upon the idea of a competitive eco system
Meanwhile, cut back to reality and you had rankoids seething and whinging for their lives that the game barely had a "usable" ranked system, and they were crying at every opportunity for Embark to actually "fix" Fame and badges so that they could obsess about it, while the non-rankoid players were busy actually playing the game. Maybe try historical revisionism with your newfag friends instead, or better yet, go back to League and CoD with the other rankoids that couldn't handle unfiltered Finals

>>1800077
>Nothingburger of a reply filled with more headcannon
I accept your concession. Guess you should get used to losing since your precious sledge got nerfed.

>>1800007
>It's actually really funny how against Ranked and Competitive that Embark was

There's been diamond rank skins since closed beta? The game was obviously made with ranked in mind first. No one releases casual competitive games everything has wanted to be an esport since like 2012

Fuck the healing meta gonna become a double barrel lamer

>>1800128
>they clearly didn't care about ranked, you can see how the system was broken and barely fiddled with until the publisher came down on it, and it's impossible to deny when the ranked players back then were constantly complaining about how underdeveloped it was
>but, uhhhhhhhhhhhh, it had a skin tho
God, is this what Call of Duty has done to people?

>>1800128
if it was designed with ranked in mind first then ranked would be the biggest option on the screen and the default

i wonder what this is about

So do you have to buy the legacy pass just to spend show tokens? If so who the fuck thought of this idea?

Eh, its better than having to "select" a pass to earn exp on in my opinion at least.

Wtf is this? I couldn't find anything in the Patch notes about it and steam doesn't allow ctrl + f. shit quality because steam screenshotted the overlay not the screen for whatever reason

>>1800676
for the buyable battle passes I'm pretty sure

>>1800676
>>1800679
Yeah, they're show tokens, to buy levels in the legacy passes. If you don't own a pass, or if you've completed all the old ones, they're useless (with the exception of S1, since it has an additional tier now even if you completed it originally)

stolen valor

>>1800696
I never bought the season 1 pass

>>1797668
dropping the Sledgehammer's damage so it's unable to two-shot a Heavy with two heavy attacks is the most retarded thing I've seen them do in a while
this kills the weapon

>>1800709
i think genuinely they really want some kind of esports presence for the game and their pro players keep saying anything that disrupts the basic meta loadout is unhealthy. sledge makes you change your loadout specifically to address it so they hate it.

Played about 5 hours today didn't see a single breach drill

>>1800730
Damn, breach drill nerf incoming then

>>1800730
>>1800735
I have used it and like it. A friend also uses it and enjoys it. But from my limited time with it, seems pointless with demat, which I take 90% of the time.
Especially today because I was a paypig and bought one of the new skins with dual blades and wanted to use it.
>>1800714
Well either that or maybe they get people saying it feels oppressive in low skill matches?

>>1800730
yjk they're priming M players for the demat nerfs.

>>1800759
i hope they remove it outright lmao, panic replacement for recon sense and almost as unhealthy.

>>1800759

>>1800760
>Removing their most popular spec
Yeah thats not happening.

>healing ball is OP as fuck, to no ones suprise
>winch+sledge always loses to dash lights now

it was already annoying as fuck to deal with a pocket healer
now they made it so 3 people can automatically be healed without sacrifing shooting

im fine with the light heal gun, it makes lights more usefull in a team and functions close enough to heal beam that it doesnt cause issue
but the ball needs to go, there is no way they can balance this without making it shit and a useless pick

the mini heal gun is fun it sounds like you're shooting frogs at your friends

im not spending 30 dollars on a battle pass

can you still 1 swing + quick melee to kill a light with a sledge?

>>1800857
no, you leave them with a little bit of health and then they dash away
can only kill them if you finish them with a RPG or if they enter the fight at less than full health
only a retarded light would let you hit them 3 times

>>1800857
Nope. Just like when they nerfed sword.

whats the best ability + gadget for a minigun+healball+dome loadout

ive found RPG doesnt work well cause you have to rev up minigun after using it as an opener

have they add 16v16 yet?

I uninstalled this shit today. I did some reflecting and genuinely I have not enjoyed it since the end of season 2. I was riding the high of 4-6 being playable after season 3 but I think I'm taking a long break from the game.

The healing SMG is borderline busted, heals a 1 hp heavy almost to full in a fraction of the time than healbeam and you can unload it super fast, meaning you're in the fight almost immediatley after healing your target. The range also seems rather long. I've seen HLL teams clean houses, the heavy becomes unstoppable with 2 healers like that that don't sacrifice much. And with the abundance of these fucking balls and dome comboes, glitch is an even more invaluable gadget to have plenty of

>>1800524
>Wahhh I only wanna play casual gamemodes and I wanna bitch about ranked while projecting my headcannons about the Devs into every thread
Yes this is what call lf duty did to gamers. You're absolutely right for the first time in your life.

>>1801053
I had a heavy stealing our cash out, dropped down beside him and shot him 4 times in the head with the revolver doing 592 damage. He lived and they stole the cashout.
I could absolutely see a new strat being to have the heavy jump on the cashout at the last possible viable second with a bubble shield, start capping, and have 2 lights hide off to the side. If heavy starts getting shot, start blasting him with heal guns.
It'd take a slight bit of coordination but it'd be damned hard to stop it if the lights position well.

>>1801076
Bubble was always prevalent, nothing new there, but the healing ball and heal SMG allow you to tank so much damage. The only reliable steal deny at this point is winching the cashout, hell not even c4+gasmines will do the trick now, you can just out heal it.

>>1800857
No and that's how it should be. Instakill melee combos were all skillless and faggoty as hell. Landing a winch or dashing with a sword shouldn't be instant death with no counterplay. The same people who want hammer buffed also cried about being tazed and killed.

>>1801076
>>1801081
They need to add healing reduction to gas or fire. Atm for the elements healing and glitch have no interactions or really counterplay and especially if they're gonna be barrels they need to interact with the rest of the game.

>>1801081
Yeah, bubble always existed but as you say, with all the extra healing you literally cannot kill the heavy in time. Glitch grenade can work, but again, if the lights aren't beside the heavy they can still heal.
You're right, displacement is literally the only way to stop a steal with certainty. Time for me to gitgud with heavy I guess.

>>1801088
You have other options for displacement than just heavy. Red canisters maybe orange, thermal bore or breach charge. Jumppad under the person stealing or demat a jumppad onto the cashout. You can use these destruction options to collapse the building if need

>>1801088
For once, I'm happy that as a heavy, I'm finally getting some fucking heals, i've gone since S3 as a heal-less heavy, since nobody ran heals from S3 to S6. I'm not too happy about loosing my C4/Barr slot, but if needs must.

>>1801101
Most good teams will always reposition with winch or pad+demat combo the cashout outside. Makes sense since you earn so many angles of attack and either force a risky steal outside or force them to winch it back inside some building. Not saying the methods you said are bad, far from it, but still, I feel like the most viable deny right now is the winch.

Embark
>The sledge is over performing in every level of the game and in all gamemodes so we're gonna tone it down
Playerbase
>THE SLEDGE IS NOT OVER PERFORMING IN FACT IT'S TOO WEAK MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH IT IN THE GAME IS WAY MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE THAN YOUR STATISTICS FROM HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DATASETS
Why are they like this, I don't see these troons pissing and seething when guns get nerfed for being too strong. Clearly the community is in the wrong(again just like with sword) melee weapons rely on breakpoints so the number gaps for changes need to be larger to account for retarded oneshot combos but every single time any melee weapon gets changed trannies put their HRT down and start rage dilating all over the discord and leddit. Reading it is fun for like a day but they're just annoying at this point. I genuinely don't understand how people can be this retarded. I've used sword hammer dualblades and spear for a year+ now it's painfully obvious when a melee weapon is getting out of hand because more casual players start picking it up and copying cheesey loadouts they saw on yt(sword dash smoke, hammer winch quick melee/ hammer goolock) it's painfully obvious that players don't want their weapons nerfed only other peoples but how many times are we going to see this same issue. They cheer for xp or cerv nerfs but cry when other "S tier" weapons get toned down as well.

>>1801498
kill yourself retard nigger

>>1801719
>The weapon that requires aim does more damage than the one with built in aim assist
What were you trying to prove

you can stop posting anytime, retard
no more (you)s

>>1801781
>avoids the question
I accept your concession

Alright Anons, new season new fits, post em.

Also for the record Vaiiya tier 2 cosmetics fucking suck, I’d would have gone CNS but I’m banking on tier 3 cosmetics being good whenever they come back.
If they’re ass again I’m painting the ceiling with my brains

>>1801967
To be honest all the sponsor rewards have been kinda shit outside of ospuze. Since they're just recolors of existing sets. CNS is kind of the lesser of the 2 evils here (not by much) and I'm expecting their tier 2 to hopefully be better.

>>1801771
>laser beam with no recoil and no damage falloff with higher dps on a class with multiple get out of jail free cards
>melee weapon with lower dps that requires you to position yourself to maybe get a kill if the enemy is dumb enough to get close
>if the enemy sees you're running sledge before you can ambush them most times you're just fucked
Goo gun and winch help but they are projectiles, not hitscan and there is no aim assist, it's harder to land shots with them than it is with no recoil autos. Melee aim assist makes it harder to land precise hits, anyone with a brain turns it off.

>>1801967
here's some of mine
currently running the cyber monkey at the bottom

>>1801984
>class with 150 hp does more damage than the one with 600
If you wanna compare them now pit the right click sledge TTK on light vs XP TTK on heavy see who dies first. The test is obviously bias trying to make a point but it's quitr literally a retarded comparison. The XP user in melee range shooting a full clip into the body or head will kill a heavy faster than another heavy will with any weapon. The clip isn't the "gotcha" melee niggers think it is.

>>1801498
>The sledge is over performing in every level of the game and in all gamemodes so we're gonna tone it down
And people rightfully question this, because there's a lot of additional data required to properly interpret that statement that we did not get. We get nothing about how much people are taking the hammer, what loadouts they're taking, and how they're stratifying each mode's elims and wins when doing the overall tally--which is worth asking because for some reason they thought it was necessary to bring up Power Shift, which is like, no shit the melee weapons and such perform better there.

The end result is also that it is "essentially" a "top three" weapon. Uh, excuse me, but if you're gonna make sweeping changes to a weapon like this, it better not be "essentially," it better just actually fucking be, and if you're gonna say "essentially" then of course everyone's going to ask "what the fuck do you mean by this."

>>1802647
That's fine but this only happens when Melee weapons get nerfed. Other weapons that massively over perform such as the XP and the Cerb for recent examples, which are also massive crutch weapons like the hammer and sword were, have no complaints when they get toned down. When you're using a top tier weapon you can't expect it to stay the best in the game. The hammer isn't just damage either it comes with instant destruction from above or below without the need of a gadget slot. It feels like people forget it has utility attached to it. I've also yet to see anyone refute the argument that winch hammer was an instant kill with no counterplay on 2 of the 3 weight classes. You cannot prequeue dashes out of the stun from it the light attack quick melee comes out faster than you can get away. Mediums have no out from it. Also the idea that they should be balancing melee weapons around the fact that lights have mobility is retarded. There's 3 weight classes for a reason the ability to put on a dash doesn't mean that you should be auto deleted with no counterplay. What about the invisible niggers or the grapplefags? Should light be forced to conform to dash or die just because people want melee instakills on the lowest hp class?

>Is the worst healer in the game now

>>1802794
>That's fine but this only happens when Melee weapons get nerfed
Because melee inherently takes more skill than any gun. It's about the difficulty it takes to be Top Tier. Hammer players are all gods at their respective skill levels. We have the data for that.
>it's not just damage, it's destruction
>It feels like people forget it has utility attached to it
No, it's because they actually play Heavy and know that having "utility" attached to it means nothing without the damage to back it up, thanks to experience with the KS-23
>I've also yet to see anyone refute the argument that winch hammer was an instant kill with no counterplay on 2 of the 3 weight classes
Winch Claw being an "instant" kill against a Light required the snag to be at max range for max stun duration and a gapless combo. Given the mechanics of timing the claw shot against a fast and small moving target, along with the mechanics of the pull, makes it ridiculous to complain about, especially since it then goes on 14s cooldown and is charging a premium opportunity cost by not having Shield or Slam. Then to say it's an instant kill again a Medium is just, lol, lmao. Maybe if you're that bad at dodging the follow-ups on a class your inherently outpace at walking speed, you shouldn't spend all your spec and gadgets before you get into the actual fight.
>should light be forced to conform to dash or die
No, if you're that concerned about the Claw but don't have confidence in your ability to escape without dash (which is possible), take Glitch Grenades (which you should anyways), dingus.

>>1802832
it really is silly that they gave everyone breaching charges and healing this season
what's next, a low ttk grenade launcher for lights?

>nearby glitch barrel's face when you run by it to the cashout for a 4th time without picking it up but while complaining about Winch Claw and Healing Emitters

>winch claw makes 1216 too strong
>nerf 1216
>winch claw makes sledge too strong
>nerf sledge
fucking STOP

Cerberus feels like SHIT now

Went to do a single match of TDM and everyone was using heavy with shield and the orb, we got giga fucked, that shit is way too good and some lightweights were using the healgun with this, either you use the same or you are fucked, such is the life of PVP shitshow garbage

>>1803320
>still kills a light in meatshot+punch
>still kills a heavy in three shots+punch
seems like how the weapon should be lol, although a teensy bit more so afterburn kills heavy with three shots would probably be fine

DB could also become two shots plus punch on heavy

>>1803394
>still kills a light in meatshot+punch
>to kill the smallest, fastest, weakest class in the game, you have to chase them down, get in their face, dump a full meatshot, and even then you have to do a quick melee follow-up
>seems like how the weapon should be
Compbrain really does ruin people, goddamn

>>1803402
>burst damage semi auto shotgun requires you to force point blank engagements
insane
it's too bad the class can't walk through walls, that would make it trivial to accomplish this

>>1803406
>burst damage semi auto shotgun requires you to force point blank engagements
>proceeds to actually not be able to burst damage because you need follow-ups
Wow! You're right, that is insane
>it's too bad the class can't walk through walls
Indeed. If they did, they'd have to balance it out with something like, a blatantly obvious and incredibly loud audio cue that you could hear from across the map, and you--YOU personally--would have to be incredibly dogshit bad at the game if you didn't hear it.

This is fun, I like hypotheticals.

>>1802987
the swedes at embark have been steadily removing class identity altogether for some time now. H was supposed to be demolitions and fortifications, is now in some goofy meaningless 'anchor' role that plays like a fat slow M. M is supposed to be support and healing, is actually the best demolitions and hit and run expert. L is supposed to be hit and run, is actually just a goo nade abusing bitch hiding in the skybox with a sniper rifle.

>>1803402
>dump a full meatshot, and even then you have to do a quick melee follow-up
your complaining you cant kill light in 1 shot? it has 3 rounds retard
the cerb was OP as fuck and was abused by noobs and sweaty mfs

>>1803466
>your complaining you cant kill light in 1 shot?
That it doesn't with meatshots, yes. The 12ga has an incredibly aggressive spread pattern, without the Light's inherent mobility or Heavy's ability to pull you close. If you get close enough and snap your aim for the meatshot, then a faceplant meatshot + its DOT should be enough for the kill, as the Light has counter play to this through positioning and movement--not just in not letting the medium get close, but also keeping proximity to healing sources to counteract the intentionally less-aggressive of the two DOT types.
>it has 3 rounds retard
Oh goody gumdrops, 3 rounds, and the weakest class in the game potentially taking two of them, creating an immediate need for a reload. Surely that doesn't bode terribly for the rounds required for the other two classes as well, and definitely doesn't give it one of the worst STK ratios per mag in the entire game. This surely isn't a matter of great import in a game where it's 3v3v3v3

how am i meant to do this if i have no freinds

Add a body type with tits already

>stop playing xp light in TDM
>getting low deaths but no longer 30-40 kill games on the regular
>lose over and over again because teammates will throw themselves at the enemy and go 2-25

I can't comprehend why they aren't doing anything to the spear. Easily the worst weapon in the game. Takes four hits to kill a medium... In that time they've already lasered you

they should add a melee weapon that does fucking no damage and takes ages to kill someone
like bare fists or boxing gloves

it should just be used to embarrass people you kill

>>1801498
>>1803483

What am I supposed to do with sword wielders? They're blocking the bullets by holding right mouse button and also reflect them back to you?

>>1803572
Because the devs just don't want melee to be good or viable. As seen by them completely butchering the sledge and sword.

>>1803636
People would still bitch about it.

>cheaters in last round

>>1803636
Well at least there is the regular melee, just pick a gadget and do it

>>1803693
Flame or CL-40

>>1803699
>Flame or CL-40
So, if you don't have those and you're medium the only option is to try to run?

>>1803702
more around them shooting, the stupid swords only reflect bullets in a narrow front radius, honestly killing these guys is easy, that weapon is dogshit i almost never see anyone using it

>>1803665
Why you (You) me, white boy

>>1803705
because there's always someone who will complain when a weapon is nerfed

>>1803707
And? What about it.

>>1803708
well you said nobody complains about guns being nerfed like melee being nerfed so I showed a post that does.

>>1803713
I didn't make that post, dumbass

>>1803715
well then I am using your post as evidence to prove a point to another anon

>>1803716
I don't like it. Go away.

aight what do I pick as heavy now with the changes?
lewis, winch, dome, rpg, healing?

>>1803836
Same as always, MGL

>>1803707
Yea I guess you're right but also I've come to realize the people in this thread are just as retarded and bronze as the discord and leddit. People here seriously complaining abouy balancing top tier weapons and about ranked as a gamemode.

>>1803836
Shak/SA/Lewis (if you're feeling frisky), Winch/Mesh (depends on teammates more than anything), RPG, dome, bawlz.

I will miss you, pocket C4/Gingerbread barricade

I'm really enjoying goo gun with healing emitter. I honestly feel like they are fairly balanced but I already know they will nerf them both, probably removing goo lock completely...

>>1801967
the engimo hoodie is nice

Does world tour have a stealth event going on that lets you see people through walls?

>>1805870
I think it's coming

>>1805871
I could see people through walls in my last match.

>>1805873
that's probably the event then yeah

>>1800730
Its a worse version of the breaching tool they gave light and no one uses that either.

>>1806020
which breaching tool

>>1806020
Well yeah. Thermal Bore became super popular in higher ranks as to help set up counters for Sledge, but you had to have gotten out of shitter lobbies to see it, and now you can't because Sledge is nerfed

>>1806065
>Playing ranked
cringe. One day you'll realize what an utter waste of life this is.

>>1806141
tbf, the diamond FCAR is the least valuable diamond in the whole game.

>>1801967
I do like how this one turned out on the last few days of the previous season as the colors match quite well and the leggings blend with the socks good too.

I want to make the xp lights as miserable as possible. What loadout is ideal for this in TDM?

>>1807729
Charge
Flamethrower
Lockbolt
RPG
Flash Grenade

>>1807756
In TDM?? Lol

>>1807729
The only real counter is either going thermal vis, DB, dash light and 1 tapping them or CL40 medium with panic goo nades. I would suggest winch heavy but heavy in TDM is just a bad choice altogether

>>1807762
>In TDM
Yes, you mongoloidic cumstain.

>Fixed an issue where some circuit rewards were being displayed in the customization menu that were there too early and in some cases, were incorrect
Does anyone know what the circuit rewards were? If this season they're gonna make it for shitty weapons and deagles again, I will quit for real

>>1807729
I highly suggest this
Medium
Turret
CL-40
(anything you want) but i do grenade
gas grenade
Motion sensor

Lightweight retards hate all of these things, when season is about to finish i do this build in TDM on purpose to torture lightweight mains and force them to change or ragequit

Throwing knives do not get nearly enough hate as they deserve.
"Bottomless magazine" type weapons like the throwing knives do not belong in this game.
I wish to skin all spastic light players and dump them into a bathtub of saltwater.
t. season 6 newfag

>>1808015
Absolutely. I mean, it's funny hearing how much people complain about Sledgehammer, but a single light with Throwing Knives just shuts that down, as your approach is often entirely tied up in trying to bait out the reload or making them miss shots to drain their magazine to where you can just tank the rest.

And of course, while I say this in regards to Melee fights, it nevertheless applies to basically all kinds of firefights

>light players
movement sweats, children
>medium players
cod players, aimtrainer sweats
>heavy players
moronic casuals, pretentious hipsters

>>1808045
literally all serious complaints about sledge are rooted in the hook because if the guy is consistently landing hooks he just wins against everyone else in the game unless someone does something to stop it.

>>1808215
>unless someone does something to stop it
Yes, it truly is a big ask that someone uses Glitch Grenades, Glitch Traps, Glitch Barrels, the Nullifier, Regular Grenades, Demat at chest height so you can't get pulled in, using any ranged breaching tool to attack from the nearby rooftop, using a Drill or Flashbang to blind him and make him resort to swings only, using a Smoke Grenade or Smoke Canister with the Sonar or tossed-in Motion Sensor, using Charge to actually counter and knock him back after he claws you, using the Infuser to burst heal counter him out of thresholds, Goo Grenades to separate or lock him, or just, you know, staying outside of a pitiful 12m range and beaming the fat bastard

Amongst other strategies

>>1808227
the self-proclaimed pros for this game have literally never liked loadout RPS despite it being a very clear part of the core design idk what to tell you

>>1808235
It's not even loadout RPS, that's the entire point. People think the counter is just glitch tools but really any of the many generalist items you're taking will deal with a hammerplayer if you just actually try to fight him.

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They should just replace ranked rules with world tour rules.

Everything that's slightly unfun to play against as a light gets nerfed into the ground (sledge, cerberus being the latest) while their double barrel bullshit cannon goes unchecked season after season. I expect the flamethrower and cl-40 to be next

>>1808331
CL-40 already got retweaked six ways from Sunday because of Lights and the whole "wahhh what if I faced 3 of them spamming everywhere" bullshit cope, and ostensibly is in a fair place because now if you don't hit nigh-directs you're basically getting nothing

Flamethrower though, yeah I could see that happening. Even though it heavily relies on the Heavy having good movement and positioning, as the majority of the Light guns will actually outpace it in TTK with a few mixed-in headshots (or some like the M11 and V9S will beat it flat out with bodyshots), but the Hammer and closing the gap was a similar case and they whined to death about
>noooo the Claw has a slightly long range than slide + attack and has a mild stun, it makes it unbeatable
so I bet the same will happen here as well, similarly regardless of whether people actually are using the winch with it

Why would you even keep playing when you go 0-16 in TDM? Do you think he's having fun?

>>1808344
>Do you think he's having fun
1000% Yes
I would wager he's actually going to have more fun with this game than you and I ever will

>>1808348
yeah he is having fun on being cannon fodder

>>1808344
the player who killed him for sure did

>>1808396
it's hard not to use the beretta when it looks as beautiful as it does in virtual extension

>>1808331
sledge is not by any stretch "unfun to play against as light," it's usually the opposite. cerberus was absolute horseshit no matter which class you were playing and medium mains seemed convinced that the weapon is worthless unless it's instagibbing up close and competent at SMG range.

flamer and CL-40 have both caught unnecessary nerfs but 2bh a lot of the CL-40 hate comes from mediums too lol, the "i played cod as a kid and haven't moved on from grenade launchers being bullshit" types

The healing emitter is balanced and it's going to get nerfed because mediums don't want to use data reshaper and lights don't want to use glitch nades (or just don't push a heavy head-on)

>>1808396
id put bow in cringe but otherwise good

I really want to have fun with the LH1 after the buff but I just can't work it out.
At medium range the recoil absolutely fucks me unless I'm spacing my shots out with like a full second between them. I have infinitely more success just running into someone's face and spamming hipfire.

>>1808452
you should try using a fun weapon to have fun

>>1808215
>hook a light
>he dashes away
>hook a medium
>demats me down or 3 shot cerbs me
>hook a heavy
>if you didn't cancel his charge, he'll use it now and gain distance. Otherwise, a decent matchup

>>1808015
You weren't around during S1 and S2, so you don't know true anguish

the CNS side of the map is peak comfy
like this is the shit you'd see in some VR chat furry RP server

the vaiiya side is still cool and interesting too, mainly the red floor room

>>1808477
but the LH1 is the coolest, so they should just make it more fun

>>1808396
Drop bow into kill yourself tier, otherwise seems alright.

>>1808396
the revolver is so fun to use but leaving everyone at 1hp feels incredibly shitty
there is no better feeling than showing up to an ongoing fight where people have taken like 10-20 damage or so and you just clean it all up without a reload

>>1808396
Gee I wonder what class this faggot plays.

>>1808931
kill yourself light nigger, everyone hates you

What's the scoop on the new gadgets? The heavy healing ball seems quite strong.

>>1808344
Don't worry anon you'll get better

>>1809215
They're all a lot of fun

>>1808977
>>1808931
surely you both play every class

>>1809215
Infuser is some high utility burst healing, mostly only limited by the fact that you need a teamplay-focused Light to use it right. It's generally the better option now when trying to tank out damage on a cashout steal.

Healing Emitter is extremely solid. You have to kind get used to its weird range detection, but it has finally tied all of Heavy's fortification tools together. However, kinda borders on the unfun, as before, it was fortifications in a crackhead Finals way, whereas the Emitter allows more straightforward bunkering

Breaching Drill is a total wildcard. It's a huge starting point to mess with your opponents, and the added flash gives it a lot of potential utility. I've actually seen people do some nasty misdirection by actually taking demat with the drill. This kind of thing has always been a part of the game, but the Drill knocks it up a notch for Mediums. Despite being the most derided of the bunch as a "pointless addition," it might actually be the one that's actually building upon the foundations of the game instead.

>>1803267
The winch was a fucking mistake

lol, lmao.

>>1809237
I don't I only play light and Medium. Heavy isn't fun I play this game for the fast movement options and having 0 tech makes heavy not enjoyable for me.

>>1808977
If by "everyone" you mean the enemy team idc I regularly have 2stacks in plat/dia try to recruit me or tell me they wish their third played light the way I do. I don't need your validation I get plenty in game.

How do you correctly use the light's heal gun with max efficiency?

>Hit plat
>Immediately get fed to unemployed/cheater diamond/ruby teams with gold 1 and 2s on my team
Every season I forget how terrible the ranked experience is in this game. Probably the worst I've ever encounter in video game.

>>1810288
As someone who solo queues to diamond I highly suggest you get some friends. I solo because I hate myself but you have a choice

Hows the WT grind going? I can only play during my lunch breaks and a little after work, but I'm getting close to silver 2. I don't normally play WT and I'm realizing you run into a lot of weirdos when you solo queue.

>>1810439
WT is full of cheaters, ruby stacks, literal fresh installs as your teammates, third parties who always go for your cashout and avoid enemy emerald team like plague, brainded teammates who can't climb or play it like deathmatch, salty quitters who leave the moment you do something to upset them, really bad console players(on your team ofc), 3 xp54/fcar team stacks and most cancerous of them all: sniper lights

>back to 16K
Another FPS that cheaters kill, this fucking genre has no future

>>1809528
What skin fans the hammer???

Just tried this out because I heard it had a very good implementation of UE5. The movement is too slow even with light classes. Takes forever to get anywhere for no reason. Looked faster in the videos. The shooting is not bad though. Multiple seconds of walking/sprint sliding around for no reason to get near the objective. Its not like you are working on a setup like its CS or something. I hope they keep working on it though. It ran really well on my machine and I liked all the environmental effects. The actual fights are not bad, about average to good.

>>1810196
don't miss

>>1810690
Okay

>>1810651
Not him, but I know the cowboy one (except the one from the Smoking Guns event, for some reason) has you fan the hammer. I don't use it (or even the revolver in general that much), however, so I can't identify if that's the one in his clip.

>>1810651
it's this one, cow not included

>>1810322
Unfortunately all my friends are 28+ year old retards that have spatial awareness issues so thats off the table and every retard that I've encounter in the lfg are all talk no action.

>>1810651
It's this one:
>>1810749
Be Warned, its visibility with irons is so fucking bad that I rarely use it because I miss everything. The skin in this clip is by far the best one for visibility.

>>1810857
It's visibility in the irons isn't the biggest issue for me honestly

>>1810690
use jump pad and zipline to go fast

>>1810690
the destruction is awesome

>>1810690
Play more. Grapple cooldown is so short that by the time you bunnyhop and slide your way from the first, the second will become available again.

>>1810950
What is? Between the hand blocking out a bunch of the screen and the irons being completely unreadable I can't stand it. The animations are great but like I said, it's so hard to use.

>>1811227
The point of the front blade is where your shot will go

>>1811227
Why aren't you using a crosshair

>>1812173
The ADS is really bad.

Is this normal to you?

Got this without realizing yesterday. Why did they even bother releasing a level 11 skin if they were just gonna phone it in with a recolor that has its texture slightly shifted?

>>1812392
Kinda surprising, i expected to have more or last longer, we are barely have 1 week in season

>>1812539
Healing sucks. The nerfs suck and don't actually touch anything that most players hate.

>>1812392
Kinda, yeah. At worst it seems the new-season bump didn't last as long, but the game has a relatively stable playerbase of 16-18k players once it drops back down from the 26-28k season start, which if pretty good for a new IP from a new studio in an oversaturated market, where legions of people won't play it or gave it up because of misconceptions/expectations (i.e. "ew, another battle royale/extraction game" and "wah why isn't it a new Battlefield, wah why is it 3v3v3v3 instead of 10v10 with the exact same gamemodes we've seen a thousand times before")

Tried a match of powershift, was pretty fun. TDM does not play that well and I did not like quick cash because of how long it took to get to the cash. I may try the comp gametype at some point. In general, I don't like playing any games with trios. I may try the s&d, but s&d usually sucks without eco, so we will see. I am mostly playing because its a very well optimized game. So far, nothing is really wowing me but the destruction and the way you can play around blowing stuff up (without frame drops!).

>banwave for "toxicity"
>cheaters untouched
Now i remember BF Vagina

i love vaiiya so much bros

>>1812487
idk. but im sure there's somebody out there whose only regret was that the cloud skin didnt come in pink, and they're probably really happy right now

So is a support slave (heal gun,glitch nades, gateway) L with two heavies the new meta?

>both teammates leave in WT
>go around with guitar playing music teabagging
>every single player immedietly tries to kill me ASAP
ASIA servers have no soul, enemy teams always let you play with them on OCE

>>1788611
it was one of my favorites because of the map itself putting pressure on the players.

>>1815087
>SEAmonkeys, Gooks, and Chinks have no souls
well yeah no shit

There is not enough else going on besides the destruction to keep the game interesting. Not much to learn, practice, or think about when you are not playing the game. Where is the depth in comp play besides fighting? The fighting is also easier than Overwatch or Apex. If you want to have crossplay, you can't also have skilled aiming. Timmy will get mad if they can't hit anything on the sticks. So you add massive amounts of autoaim, and all the m&k players switch to sticks.

Overwatch, Siege, CS, Val, Fortnite, Apex there is a lot of stuff there you have to practice and work on if you want to be good. Most of these games do have their issues. New people join the dev team and have to add a "tweak" to the game to get promoted. They add or tweak too much and the game starts sucking.

>>1815298
This isn't knocking you because this is likely just a generational thing, but those games you listed aside from I guess CS are just flooded with bloat, whereas the finals just seems a bit simpler. There are no ultimates, no building mechanic, no unnecessary fluff. At its core its really just TF2 with better movement (ignoring rocket/nade jumping) and map destruction. In my eyes its a "less is more" situation. But I can imagine if you're accustomed to something that I would deem overly flashy, I could see the finals not being for you. I would assume its like when fans of quake dislike Quake-like games because they add a bunch of unnecessary stuff instead of focusing on the gameplay.

>>1810690
>Its not like you are working on a setup
lel. what a retard.

>>1815062
>literal sphere as a head
>lul itz so gud

>>1817146
yes, and?

>>1817146
it's disgusting, i agree completely

>>1815298
Yes, it's a disappointment that the game is entirely hinged on how destruction provides some of the most dynamic and engaging skirmishes in the entire industry, and that you spend more time playing the game and working on game sense + fully understanding 3D space instead of reading what other people wrote about rollouts or smoke setups and so on.

i kind of want a battle royale LTM
it would be interesting in this game

>>1818079
I don't think it'd be a fit for this kind of game. That being said, I could see 3v3v3v3 King of the Hill with LMS mechanics being a potentially fun event.

>nerf medium's brainless close range weapons (a little too much in the case of the 1887)
>suddenly everyone thinks the CL-40, which has not changed in a season, is a huge problem
lol

>>1818434
i cant stand this shit it happens in cycles and they just nerf everything and never rebuff it

>nerf heavies LMGs
>everyone uses the SA1216 and people complain
>nerf the SA1216
>everyone uses the hammer and people complain
>nerf the hammer
>everyone uses flamethrower and people complain

its at the point that the "meta weapons" arent even good they are just the most viable out of everything else that got nerfed too hard

>laske banned
>immediatley unbanned because he has contacts inside embark
when are they gonna perma this fuckhead and hwid this cunthead

They won't be happy until the only viable picks are auto rifles

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>every single heavy is has heal ball
>lights and medium never bring glitch stuff
>dont even have it in reserve

i dont understand, its a clear counter to something your 100% going to face
and i cant bring shit to counter it as a heavy

>>1821242
Glitch mines are shit and a waste of a slot. Every light should be bringing glitch nades though

>>1821310
>I shouldn't have to think about bringing a counter to the enemy teams' systems, but the rest of my team totally should

>>1821317
Have you actually played this game before? The value of glitch mines is negligible on defense and non existent while attacking, the fucking data reshaper is a better pick to counter heal balls

>>1821331
trap is no longer a mine and more a status effect applier, it is great for locking off the specialties/grenades/gadgets of enemies if you can funnel them in the right spot even with goo, it's definitely more of a defensive gadget now but it still has uses.

>>1821338
Requires too much co-ordination to maybe see value if it doesn't get immediately destroyed. Compared to the glitch nade which will always get value in the current meta
Not to mention L is generally more flexible with their gadget slots (no you don't need that vanish bomb) whereas M pretty much has to pick defib and at least one movement gadget

>>1821242
Honestly it's much easier to just pick the ball up and lob it away. I loved glitch mines, but nerfing it down to 1 with a cool down for the second completely ruined it. It was amazing for dealing with shitdashing lights, but these days I can't justify bringing it over goo.

the best counter to the healing ball is just shooting it
people are retarded and most of them put the ball in the open, so just destroy it

What're your player stereotypes based on the in-game cosmetics?

>>1821242
glitch nade is kind of annoying to use because light has infinite utility options that he could take instead and it require you to commit to a fight right after announcing your intent to fight which light really doesn't want to fucking bother with without team support which is not at all guaranteed in pubs

>>1821432
that works well but throwing it is much funnier, especially if they go running after it.

>>1821432
>people are retarded and most of them put the ball in the open
Putting the ball out in the open IS the strat, moron. The range is deceptively short, and fights depend a lot on movement, so the ball being centrally placed is the better way to tag people for healing while not locking them down. The ball also operates heavily on the principle of "if they're shooting it, they're not shooting me," giving you a strong advantage in shootouts no matter which way you cut it, and it's not like losing it matters too much when it's on a premium cooldown of only 35s.

>>1825279
Play the game retard, that shit dies too fast for that scenario to be viable, at least in my experience

Anons have you guys ever had a gun just randomly “click” for you? I went from Stevie wonder type aim and borderline hating the ARN-220 to actually being able to beam targets with it.

Only thing that still haven’t gotten used to is that weird middle reload, but I’m getting there

>>1825327
It's a fucking auto rifle. They're all the same. There's nothing to click.

>>1825291
>in my experience
Yeah I'd assume things would be different in Low-ELO

>>1825334
NTA but
>ball providing enough healing mid-combat to make a difference in a fight
>calling other people low ELO
hmm

>>1825327
Might be because they changed it from Having two different recoils to just the same one, which is a bit of a shame since I thought that was pretty neat

>Finally reach plat 1
>ques are taking between 5 to 10 minutes.
>Tourney wins only give 600 rs at most because its rated "Easy" despite going against ruby ttv retards with xims and cronus zens.

Haven't played this game since the new season launched and honestly? I'm not really missing it.
Doesn't help that this season's rewards are fucking shit. A light weapon for dia rank, AGAIN. And the fucking sniper rifle, adding insult to injury.

Feel like shit just want my Cerberus back

>>1825889
The world tour rewards are fun

Almost quit heavy after the sledge nerf but picked up the akimbo deagles and I'm having a lot of fun. The LMGs just feel like shit and the shak is just boring to play

>>1826130
green weapon doesnt even look good

>>1825434
Fool. All gunfights in The Finals are a rapidfire numbers game of TTKs and thresholds, constantly tallying all manner of factors and advantages to know when you have the odds in your favor with any given strategy. This is why Ranked is predicated upon not being able to switch loadouts during the match, so people can't just suddenly change all the variables on a whim.

That makes something like the Healing Emitter absolutely significant, because whether it's doing so by healing you or by making enemies target it before attacking you, it's effectively inflating the TTK without requiring someone to put their gun away like the Beam or Infuser, and even the smallest measures of such a thing pays off in magnitudes. If you can make them required to expend even just one extra shot, it's beyond worth it.

That's why it's best to slap it out where anyone can be healed by it in even the briefest amounts, or attract even the briefest of attention.

>>1826526
most of the pros do hide the healing emitter in a better place though to use it on firefights, play the game retard
>ranked
lol, lmao, being able to switch loadout after wipe to change strategy is much better unlike ranked where is the same boring safe meta every single time, on top of the matchmaking being absolute dogshit where rank matter less than fucking world tour, what a load of bullshit post

>Muhammad
i know your here fag

new outifts for this season so far
the green visors pretty good, turns the mexican wrestler into a superhero

>>1826539
>most of the pros
Ah yes, the pros, gotta kneel to the pros.
You know, the guys who couldn't figure out how to play around getting bonked by a really big stick
Those pros. Those experts.

>>1826526
>That makes something like the Healing Emitter absolutely significant
it can be made insignificant in half a dozen different ways and to gain an "advantage" from it you lose a lot of mobility and positioning
but hey if you're in lobbies where people don't punish that and can't aim consistently enough to the point where you get any active gunfight utility out of the ball then good for you

>>1827014
>it can be made insignificant
Getting your opponents to expend any amount of resources/attention to nullify the Healing Emitter is a win for the Healing Emitter
>to gain advantage of it you lose a lot of mobility and positioning
Your literacy matches your critical thinking skills

>>1826927
nice outfits, the one in the middle is a great combination

>>1826853
Looks like it might get undone. Not sure who would fight to have a 4chan or reddit tag though.

Is there some sort of tranny raid in the discord. I check the feedback channel and it's like 40 niggers saying nerf CL-40. Surely people aren't unironically losing to this gun.

>>1827966
the nerf to goo just made it more effective

>>1827966
You WILL use nothing but assault rifles. You WILL be happy to do so.

I think every time I've seen someone use this face they've been a complete useless retard that gets the teamwipe ball rolling by trying to 1v3 the enemy team. Always playing medium with demat.

>>1819364
They really should just permaban him and not look back. You don't just get banned dozens of times for cheating without cheating

>>1819364
>>1828337
https://steamid.uk/profile/76561198189811679
>8 EAC bans in the finals
>claims he's been reported over 4000 times
>claims it's not the amount of reports but rather anticheat "false-flagging" him for aimbot or wallhack
>2 bans on record from other games
>VAC ban
>27% of friends list has bans on record, some have multiple bans
There's no way he's not cheating. Really can't understand the amount of retards defending this guy.

>>1828376
also no aim training at all

>>1828376
they're probably getting boosted by him/account sharing. A LOT of rubies do this, I know a few that charge money per 1k RS and even have a "from unranked to ruby" paid deal going on. Heard of a russian guy who boosted 10 accounts to ruby

>https://www.reachthefinals.com/patchnotes/710-gzt4z
>In World Tour this week, VAIIYA welcomes you to play Protocol: XPOSE! Every 2 minutes, you’ll be given a special vision that helps you see through walls, trees, and anything in your way so you can detect any enemy Contestants within a 50 meter radius. Even cloaking can’t save you from XPOSE! For 30 seconds, you’ll be able to hunt them with extreme precision…but they’ll be able to see you too, so get ready to engage!
This sounds fucking awful, I guess it's a ranked week for me

>>1828376
>chinese
I didn't know that
Guess that explains all

official n-word class

>>1829231
lol filename

>>1828495
its fine desu no different from a light throwing a sonar but its better cause you both can see

i hope they make it a perminant event

>>1828333
couldnt be me. i'm trying to get the ingredients for my appetizer

>>1809239
>you need a teamplay-focused Light.
anon, you clearly dont know how selfish the average light main really is
>>1826286
embrace the pyromancer within and equip the flamethrower.
>>1807729
my pyromancy build involves:
>Winch Claw/Goo Gun
>Flamethrower
>Pyro Mine
>Pyro Grenade
>Lockbolt
Leggies can dash all they want but that doesnt change the fact theyll be burned alive eventually.

>>1829591
>>Pyro Grenade
its useless retard, even moreso with flamethrower and pyro mine
swap it for rpg c4 dome or heal ball

>>1829573
>bronze
how

>>1829827
i just started the new season last week

>>1829988
And you placed bronze?

>>1830009
bronze 1. as to why i keep getting matched with low levels, i have no clue

>>1829611
its to prevent steals on the cashout via disorientation and nothing more

>>1830014
yikes
>>1830017
fire mines and c4 do the same job

>>1830022
you can always shoot the mines and c4 away tho. of course theres always the RARE circumstances of the enemy having APS turrent, but thats still quite rare

>>1830022
thats another thing i hate embark for as well. i cant see my team mates level until after the match. WHY???

>>1830029
That's why you put the mines ontop of the c4 or the c4 on top of the mines. Either way, once they're shot, the mines trigger. That's why a strat I used to run often in ranked was gasmines + c4, it basically made the site impossible to steal.

fire nades just suck desu

>>1830031
I mean if you're in bronze, tf are you expecting, it's more baffling that he placed in bronze in the first place, you can soloq into plat 3 easy.

>>1830014
I place bronze or silver every season despite my platinum-diamond track record. It's fast to climb out and you can easily drop 40+ kills on the lobbies and win just by doing fast cashouts.

>Hit plat 1
>Only gaining maybe 500 rs at MOST for a tourny win
Thats not to mention the absolutely abysmal que times. Why the fuck am getting absolutely no points despite being paired with diamonds?

>>1830039
one fire grenade can destroy the gas mines and c4

>>1830017
>>1830029
>shoot the mines
this activates them which prevents a steal
better off gooing or winching to stop a steal rather than wasting a slot on pyro nade

>>1830211
so can the fucking flamethrower, or a pyro mine
the fire grenades are fucking retard bait there is a better option in every scenario

>>1830943
only heavy has those options for fire

>>1830963
and we're talking about this guys retarded pyro loadout >>1829591

>>1831007
i highly disagree, but to each their own. you can stick to your reliable detonators.
i only acknowledge the retardation of this build due to the lack of means for breaching, but thats about it. i see very little flaws outside of that

>>1831013
imagine a toolbox filled with nothing but philips head screwdrivers

thats what this guys bringing
different gadgets/weapons that all do the same thing

>>1831049
But it's fun

>>1830943
Noboy outside of silver uses fire nades

>>1831467
I use fire nades to help with breakpoints sometimes. Like when using the KS on heavy.

I played TDM for like three hours straight nonstop, jesus christ this game.

>>1832097
he said nobody out of silver

>>1832474
Let me guess, you are light main?

>>1832533
Light&Heavy.

>>1832545
ok, based

>servers are STILL ass
>new weapon animation system breaks full autos
Uh, congrats to the semi autos, you're vindicated I guess

XPOSE has way too much range. It's fun in the close range, as you both start to fight between walls n' shit, but there's a certain range at distance where it can be incredibly hard to determine whether they're on your side of a wall or not.

It particularly comes into play with Kyoto, as you got quite a few buildings with outside walkways and those big doorways that people can shoot through while ducking behind the walls and such inside.

>>1833236
i fucking hate the way it makes everything look
its so bad on the CNS maps
cant see the fucking glass in front of you

Real tired of medium GLs this season.

>Finally make it to diamond after grinding rank solo for a few hours every other day
>Last push was a 7 hour session of fighting retards that have been ruby every season with teammates literally screeching into their mic
>Wake up today and apparently I'm in ruby rank
This has to be a mistake right? Or is the game so dead that 40k RS is top 500?

>>1833750
Ruby sunsets to about 50.1k end of season, it's just very early in the season

>>1833756
>top players end around 50k when you only get around 300rs for a tourney win
Couldn't imagine playing a game for 8 hours a day to maybe make 100 dollars on twitch/youtube.

>>1833782
Highest I've ever seen streamed of this game was like, 2k viewers
even they probably don't even break 100 bucks in earnings

>>1833782
they have fun playing for that long because they all cheat

god damn there's a lot of cheaters in this game

>>1836171
I wonder what the key is, because I've not run into many cheaters myself and I want that Nama Tama sticker that you allegedly get for reporting one.

>>1836190
>Nama Tama sticker that you allegedly get for reporting one.
Since when?
I've reported and gotten those messages in past seasons, but I don't remember ever getting an exclusive sticker for it.

>>1836190
>>1836271
You get that sticker if you report a bug/exploit, not if you report cheaters. By that logic, I'd have a fucking ruby version of that sticker

>>1833750
>Or is the game so dead that 40k RS is top 500?
Yes, the amount of people that play ranked is minuscule.
QP obviously has the most players, WT has the second most, and then only the most retarded like yourself play ranked in a dead game.

>>1836275
Welcome back retard schizo, that thread on v really got you feeling good again it seems

>>1836279
This is my first time posting in these threads, seems you have more than one person who thinks you're a faggot.

>>1836279
You're swinging wide, Me.

>>1836292
>>1836297
samefagging already?

>>1836300
No, you're just an unlikable person.

>>1836306
Nice inspect element, samefag

>>1836308
On iOS?
I don't think so.

>>1836331
>>1836308
>>1836306
>>1836300
>>1836297
>>1836292
>>1836279
>>1836275
samefag

Now that it's leaving, I can fully say with confidence: XPOSE was fun. While I enjoy how much of the game is based on being wily, doing things like ducking out of sight to cool off or how even a single goo wall does a lot to make your opponent have to guess in an encounter, it's also enjoyable how much it just threw gas on everything.

For that brief window it's active, it's just go go go go go go GO. The action is NOT stopping because THEY are coming for YOU and YOU are going after THEM. Every move can be made with confidence, and in a game like this, that just breeds insanity.

>turn off crossplay
>in queue for over 10 minutes already
bros we are looking dead as fuck

>>1837633
Most players in NA are all niggers on playstation that hotmic and talk like retarded monkeys.

>>1837633
>>1837634
the one good thing about playing ASIA is that basically no one there owns a console
still have aids latency though cause im in australia

>>1837639
There's also the caveat of nobody playing and those who play are cheaters but we'll let that slide

>light teammate drops 23 kills on first round
>check profile after qualifying
>1 year on steam
>many banned friends
>he misses almost all his shots whenever you spectate him in later rounds
>lose last round because he tries to facetank a MHH team multiple times with triple heals and double bubbles
>the enemy medium never misses a shot and easily tracks you through foliage (I know about the ping exploit but still sus)
I just don't know who's cheating anymore. Probably safe to say there's 2 or 3 cheaters in every world tour game.

gonna be the valorant meltdown all over again

>Sledgehammer swings will now no longer constantly woosh over the heads of Lights
Hey alright. Can't wait for it to get nerfed again then.

>new destruction physics
oh good, I love having even less FPS now

>Acknowledge the uptick in cl-40 usage because you stupidly gave every class a way to heal.
>Tack on more self damage and lower the blast radius while completely ignoring the simultaneous increase in double barrel usage too.
Getting real tired of this shit

>everyones sick of CL-40
>make a gamemode where its the only weapon

this and the heavy hitter gamemodes suck ass
so did the snowball one

>>1837761
I don't even get how the damn thing can even be classified as a grenade launcher anymore. The splash has already been pitiful on it, and now they're decreasing it further.
>>1837765
Hey, lighten up buddy

https://youtu.be/dL7lXydozU8
this is how i feel in my mind playing the new mode

>>1837765
seems you're adverse to fun game modes

These last two LTMs have been really fun... I enjoy a break from getting beamed by autos

>>1837761
Now you guys know how heavies feel with the 100 rpg nerfs. I keep telling you guys, the devs balance everything around "how fast does it kill a light?" which makes everything feel like shit. At this rate, they just need to rework how classes work in general, maybe make them work more the way mgo3 classes do.

>>1837846
Bro I usually main medium and was never supporting any of the heavy nerfs outside of charge and slam. Light gets so many free passes its insane.

>>1837696
They said they have a melee specific patch coming up. Maybe they'll finally make it so every melee weapon in the game isn't complete and utter dogshit.

>>1838227
I will find a way to eat my own asshole if they manage to fix the most glaring issues with the riot shield that have existed since season 1

got a 10-0 flawless round in TDM

>>1838779
nice job anon!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoS6b1huP98

don't go to the finals discord and look at game-feedback
you will get braindamage from the retard lights asking for buffs

>>1839870
>M60
>high tier
cool bait
switch it with the SA

.50 akimbo are next on the chopping block because they are heavy's only remaining somewhat consistent and reliable way of dealing with lights
next is removal of goo lock
after which comes a minigun, shak, flamethrower and mgl nerfs
screencap this post

>>1840454
I believe this man because the deags have been nerfed a lot while the shak has remained untouched and that's because the shak is the preferred weapon of console players (I play mnk and I like it though desu, but if I had better aim, i'd switch to the SA in a heartbeat)

>>1840454
The next in the chopping block is Deagles,M60 and flamethrower and maybe the SHAK, the MGL is wayy to fucking useless to be nerfed

What did they do in the last patch? Did they nerft hp or bull all the damage? The game feels off.

>>1840483
>the MGL is wayy to fucking useless to be nerfed
The MGL isn't inherently useless, it's just held back by the fact that your team actually needs to work together to get the most out of it, and average player--stack or randos--are too retarded to actually do that.

That being said, Embark could still look at something that kills Lights in 2 shots with no damage falloff and splash damage and still pitch a fit. A weapon actually being used to its potential hasn't always been a factor so far.

>>1840494
they disabled the new weapon system again, that might have affected your experience

>>1841177
>new weapon system
What's that? I feel like I'm dying in less than a second as light and in 2 seconds if I'm heavy.

If you want to win more games, start pushing cashouts from below. Teams will often hold roofs and good players will just beam you if you jumppad up to them. I've begun to notice that I can usually just walk to the cashout for free if I never jump on a rooftop and just walk into the building.

>>1841195
A good team is going to winch/pad that cashout outside

>>1841193
here's a screencap from the steam notes

>>1841195
this is always the go to strat for me as hammer/flamethrower
its annoying as fuck when teammates try to fight against them holding roofs when we have 0 cover
just run inside nigga

>play 20 matches of blast off
These faggots deserve the fucking wood chipper

>>1841837
theres also a daily challenge to play 2 matches every day of the event

lol the new event is so fun

>>1842314
Man you don't even need the 8-Bit skin, you're already playing with 8 bit graphics

blast off is so fucking funny lol

so many players literally have no idea how to aim for airshots or play around mobility to make people miss so tons of feedback is "wtf everyone in this mode is hacking it feels so random"

>>1842472
Things that nobody ever said

Post nerf cerberus fucking lol
Still shits on lights but there is no point taking it if there's more than a couple heavies in the game

>>1842489
Good, fuck the cerb

>>1842477
things that a ton of people have said ackchyually

How's the game these days?
Will I still be the best person in the lobby with the V9S and dash?

>>1843465
Pretty much

>>1842314
>>1842472
Any advice on how to gauge my shots, anons? It's not quite clicking for me in the event mode despite playing it each day. I want to improve.

>>1843892
it's a very reflexive mechanical sort of skill, you do it enough and you'll feel where they're gonna be in a sec or how you have to flick to land a shot. keep in mind projectiles in shooters are almost always much larger than they appear, like big balls
one thing that can sometimes help with projectile aim like this is letting your movement aim for you, line up the shot then as they drift into it, take it. IDK if it'll be as effective in this mode because dash exists tho

>>1843974
I feel like I could do better with it if it was more viscerally clear what ranges/velocity I'm working with. I can land "line up" shots fine, but when I'm predicting distances, it feels too inconsistent. How many meters in would you before you start firing?
>>1843465
Melee has been nerfed for a while, but very slowly being readjusted. Lights have many options; while the V9S is still good, something like the 93R is potentially more deadly in the right hands (someone who can track heads), and the XP still fucks people up.

>>1843992
the RPG is considerably faster than the grenade launcher and has a flat trajectory, the grenade launcher is a near flat arc on account of the low gravity but does have a bit longer of a travel time. on account of predicting distances just fire when you feel ready.

It's not bad
but it sure as hell isn't good either

I'm getting a lot of nutty RPG airshots though, atleast that's fun.

I just think the map is way too tiny to accomodate this gamemode, think of tribes massive maps and dunes/hills that provide cover, here instead I'm always getting ganged up by 2 dudes while I almost close the kill on an enemy

>>1843892
lower your sens

>>1844049
>the resident schizo doesn't think Blast Off is good
That being said, yeah I think picking a more vertically cluttered spot or adding custom-placed suspended structures wouldn't be a bad idea. Not being bigger, but instead taking design cues from something like DM-Morpheus from UT99, especially since the speed of the CL40's grenades would help even out the lack of hitscan weapons that are in that map's equation.

>>1844076
Rent free, shitter

>>1844049
I think it'd be better if we got the grappling hook instead of the dash so we could go faster, the peace arena or parts of kyoto would've been good because of their hills where you could slide and maintain your speed.

>>1842314
trading rpg kills with another guy at the start of the round is the funniest thing, it's like modern jousting

>>1842472
I've had 3 teammates that get one or two kills and die a dozen times, then type in the chat about how much they hate the gamemode. Should've played Team Fortress 2

>pay streamers to get ingame skins
How about no

oy vey what did embark mean by this

>more Sentai armor is here
>WITHOUT the fucking HELMETS
Okay, WHY

>>1847122
This too, what the hell. I don't even know how much a Twitch sub costs off the top of my head
>look it up
>$15
eughurghruhghrguhrghgruhguhuh
noooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I didn't even know these kinds of twitch "drops" existed. I thought it was gay enough that twitch drops existed at all. Like if I wanted to do shit related to The Finals, I'd just go play The Finals. I'm not one of those fags that suckles at the teats of streamers to get opinions n' shit, let alone pay for it. It's not like this is a bundle worth $15 anyways, let alone FOMO shit.

Nexon must really be wanting their bottom dollar if they're paying for esports tourneys.

>>1847223
I don't really mind twitch drops since I can just let it run in the background with whoever the fuck streamer muted while I do literally anything else. Like I get why they do it since its a form of advertisement and advertising grows your playerbase. But yeah the whole subbing thing for rewards is kinda ass.

Also the sentai armor fucking sucks. They clearly have talented people there that can make cool stuff (as seen with all the gear they've upgraded to legendary status). But more often than not its just party city tier costumes or recolors of existing stuff. Not that I'm gonna buy it, but I'm glad the new alien costume doesn't look like something I could make in GTA5

>>1847122
Yeah, haven't seen that one before. It's an interesting way to prop up content creators, and with their telemetry on it they'll have a good guess on how successfull of an experiment it was.

>>1847250
>I can just let it run in the background
This is what I do, but I find it skeevy nevertheless. It's Twitch effectively mining ads on my computer, I don't care for it in principle
>Also the Sentai armor sucks
It's silly, since even the very first Sentai jumpsuits with Goranger were way better looking. It's more fitting now as a cheap B-Movie costume for the alien helmets, but despite how it's now for something else, I still complain that I don't have more Sentai Helmets. That's the thing I actually want, that's the piece that actually looks alright, and it'd take them all of 5 seconds to churn out more recolors for it.

>>1847336
Hitman WOA did that

>>1847348
I see it as a necessary evil like commercials on tv when people had cable. No one likes ads in any capacity, but at the same time, who the fuck wants to work for free? We get free items in game in exchange for something I don't even have to be actively watching. My might take might be a bit different since I 100% don't use twitch otherwise since I get zero enjoyment from watching someone else play video games. If the system ever got changed to require the window to be in focus and require some level of interaction from the viewer, I would drop it immediately.

>I still complain that I don't have more Sentai Helmets. That's the thing I actually want, that's the piece that actually looks alright, and it'd take them all of 5 seconds to churn out more recolors for it.
I get that they have to make money, but fuck this game would be so much better if they just gave us color sliders for cosmetics. We could have had whole squads sporting red, blue, yellow, pink, and blue on day one of that outfits release. Also reminds me, they need to stop making these lame emotes that have a digital avatar and just let you do emotes that interact with other players. This isn't one of those, but imagine being able to sync up the sentai pose with your teammates after a sick kill.

>>1847444
>this game would be so much better if they just have us color sliders
I'd be totally fine with them just charging coins for colors, even if you only got that color for the individual piece. They could also still do unique variations with preset patterns or logos and such, so it's not like it's limiting that as an option. Given that they're quickly approaching recolors being more and more of the lineup, it'd be the more respectable thing to do at this point. Hell, it'd make some things easier for them as well: part of the Sponsor Rewards can just be new colors for your old fits.
>just let you do emotes that interact with other players
The thing is, the technology is definitely there to some degree. The mariachi emotes already checks to see if nearby teammates are doing the emote and you'll join in accordingly. If they're gonna be charging out the butt for some cosmetics, then they can definitely figure out something where you get into a ready pose and then it activates when someone else joins in.

>hitmarkers are still bugged
Lazy ass devs

>Blast off
>First week have "complete 40 daily contracts" contract
>Second week there's one to complete 20
These swigger devs expect me to play this dumbass game mode for 12 out of the 14 days its available to get all the rewards? This is the problem I have with live service games expecting me to play like its second job.

>>1847630
>These swigger devs expect me to play this dumbass game mode for 12 out of the 14 days its available to get all the rewards
No, they don't. That's why the Daily Contract ones pay out in XP and you don't need to complete them to get the circuit bonus you retard.

>>1847630
I freaked out about it too bout thankfully you don't need to do them to unlock the limited skins

>>1847720
>>1847720
>>1847720
New Breb

>>1810857
Which skin is the one in the web- the mp4

>>1850418
this one