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Amarr Primacy Edition

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Old Thread: >>1780125

>Amarr

Bros I found a superior ghost site and I'm kind of tempted to hack it down in my 700m Astero
I've never hit one of these before but I can hack any difficulty in 20s tops
Should I give this a try? I know you can facetank or blitz the cans, my only option would be blitzing and I'd like to hit 2 cans before leaving

I wish I had a friend to consult for shit like this, nobody I know explores but me

>>1831921
>700m Astero
nigga just bum rush the oddly named can with a covops

>>1831938
I risked it
The fit has insane hacking strength so I can brute force the fuck out of any difficult scan, I could've probably hit 3 cans but I was way too stressed hitting only 2
This was the haul

>>1831965
>couldve hit 3 cans in 1 minute
tf

>>1832006
I've got quite an autistic fit specifically just to hack sites really quick because I'm horrified as hell doing wormholes in general so speed is everything to me

I pooped a little.

>>1831965
>>1832009
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but covops skilled to lvl 4 and a buzzard beats an astero on all metrics related to hacking and scanning.

>>1832030
Can it run a Zeugma and some scan rangefinding/scan acquisition arrays + an afterburner or microwarp drive?
If yes then I'd love to keep a couple as backup, I didn't have any less-risky ships tackling that ghost site with so I just manned up and did 2 cans of the ghost site with my Astero

I'd honestly love an even stronger ship than an Astero to scan down systems and hack sites with, are there any better ones? I'm still relatively new to the game

>>1832030
its a sugma blackglass tard
dont try to reason with them

>>1832083
Thats not very nice anon I'm just trying to enjoy the game as a little explorer/scavenger
I don't care for combat in this game really

>>1832083
What's wrong with blackglass? It's probably overkill for most things, plus it's expensive. Could be nice though.

I don't even have t2 scanning/hacking skills.

>>1832104
I think he assumes the Blackglass + Zeugma is overkill but in my eyes it's just a really nice investment and it heavily minimizes the time hacking, it essentially makes it so you can never fail a hack which is invaluable for ghost sites I think

It gives you up to 60 Virus strength which lets you absolutely tear any wall down without a sweat, normally it only applies to 1 type of hack but with a Zeugma it applies the bonus to both relic and data sites

I believe its a common build if you're like me and you spec fully into exploration

go back to wow

>>1832110
My only issue with that is doing that shit in WH. Too much risk. If someone drops on you, you're fucked.

>>1832115
Well I shouldn't speak too soon but I've *never* lost a ship in a WH yet as I'm overly cautious. I've been jumped a few times, but I run a warp core stabilizer II and that let me escape from any situation where I've been scrambled.

I think the only way I can theoretically be caught and killed is by a stealth bomber already sitting inside a relic/data site and uncloaking > nuking me as soon as I uncloak, or being caught in a bubble which is highly unlikely with the rarity of traffic in wormholes.

I'm constantly Dscanning while I'm probe scanning and I spend 99% of my time in any wormhole cloaked, and it only takes about 4 to 5 minutes to clear any relic or data site.
Besides, people are going to be looking for a Tengu or Stratios, Astero's are a dime a dozen anyway, no? I doubt they'd give that much attention to me even if they were to spot me.

it usually takes me <3 minutes to hack a relic in a regular ass covops

what the fuck is wrong with you

>people are going to be looking for a Tengu or Stratios
l m a o
you'll die once and then every nigger will beeline for you after checking kb

>>1832225
Naw, I don't get caught

>fuck around in a WH you know nothing about
>the faggots living there are cloaked watching holes
>they already have sites scanned down
>they wait until you settle into a site, warp in and axe you

I'll stick with my comfy null relics.

>>1832228
only a matter of time, retard
you're guaranteed to have a faction scram bomber decloak on you at some point and there will be absolutely nothing you can do to save yourself from his dictor alt

>>1832240
Doesnt matter, even if they did I'm still completely swimming in profit, setting up another fit wouldn't be a problem with how much I've made thus far

>>1832245
i hack relics in half the time as you in a ship thats a tenth of the value

keep being retarded

>>1832110
zuegma sucks ass brother just fit a fucking T2 data analyzer tf are you doing. It's both in one slot, but it is half virus coherence of either T2, and it is wildly expensive. guy who called you sugma blackgass tard is right.

>>1832131
nigger i will fucking warp a saber on your ass and fucking bubble your warp core stab isn't doing shit and I know you aren't going to press the nullifier button in time as you sweat and shake because you're flying with a module that costs 3x what my ship does.

stop using zeugmas, they're dogshit.

>>1832278
60 Virus Strength is nice as hell when HP isn't even a factor anymore due to the Blackglass
Given I was able to hit a Superior Ghost site earlier for 2b, I'm pretty sure I can afford the luxury

Bitch about it

>

>>1832289
ur a pve retard please consult the image you are prey and i am predator.

we're not bitching we just think you're retarded
hacking a ghost site doesnt change that fact

anyway can zkill fuck off and be removed i died to a fucking cenotaph that probs costs 1.7b in a 150m bc and zkill decided to give me -32 points


all the egamers are going to laugh at my shit stats now what the fUCK

>>1832297
nobody cares about points lmao

>>1832295
Only retarded if I die with all of it
Which I haven't

Its thanks to it that I've managed to clear wormholes so quickly and bounce from site to site

>>1832302
green number = good red number = bad

my lizard brain canot see otherwise

>>1832306

i cannot wait to murder you when ur sat in a c2 using ur sugma on a 2m can not pressing the dscan button, sweating profusely with your 60 virus coherence which doesnt even one shot any node as i molest you in an eris you disgusting daytripper

>I've managed to clear wormholes so quickly
4-5 minutes per site is not quick at all

>>1832310
Sure
Even on the offhand that you do, I'll just throw on another one and profit another 2b and fund 3 more fits

It doesn't matter if its expensive, as long as I maintain profiting there's no problem with what this does, lol

>>1832316
how about you just go rat in a c6 you disgusting ape and you will make far more in an hour than your sugmabrainlet mind can ever comprehend.

>>1832320
But I don't want to be boring and click rats until their HP goes from 100 to 0
I like the exploration and hacking gameplay, and the inherent risk to it makes it a very involved and semi-stressful activity.

The money I get doesn't even particularly go to anything other than funding more of the same fits because I genuinely enjoy this gameplay of scanning down good sites, clearing them, and occasionally getting solid payouts that facilitate more of this loop I enjoy.

what is it about sugmas that brainlets are so drawn to
ive known alpha mongs fit them on cloakless asteros and then try defend its use when they inevitably die before making it back

>>1832323
>the inherent risk to it makes it a very involved and semi-stressful activity.
my sides are in orbit

idk but you can make so much money off buying them and hodling them until a scanning event happens and all the brainlets MUST buy them.

>>1832325
>STOP HAVING FUN!!!!
No

>>1832326
Scanning event? Curious, what do you mean?

>>1832328
>Scanning event? Curious, what do you mean?
oh brother just wait, you'll coom buckets

>>1832329
Tell me anon I'm all curious now

>he doesnt know

>>1832328
>>STOP HAVING FUN!!!!
>No
nigger i literally cant fathom thinking exploration is "VERY INVOLVED" or stressful at all
its one of the most chill ways to make isk

it would be considerably less stressful if he wasnt flying a 700m astero kek

>my 50m buzzard makes as much money as he does and i dont even bother pressing the dscan button.

>>1832332
Its comfortable in my eyes, and its not too stressful like direct combat is, but there's just a fine line of risk-factor to all of it that keeps it a nice balancing act of both profit and focus.
Plus, the gameplay loop of
>scanning > find 3 sites > find rare site > loot everything through puzzles
is a lot more fun than just
>dive combat site
>make money
>repeat

>>1832336
It's like driving a nice car, anon. It doesn't need the fancy heated seats or extra bells and whistles, but its nice to have and adds to the immersion.

nigga you are driving a ferrari through the hood one day a basketball american will pull you out rape your ass and shit inside your mouth

the only reason to fly astero is to rape explorers, just use a fucking cov ops frig stop being a retard

>>1832338
NO
By your logic when other shit ass explorers see my Astero they FLEE in their justified fear because I might be a motherfucker hunting them
Little do they know I'm here to start scanning down the very sites they we're looking to take and that extra layer of security is a nice thing to have

>>1832083
u were right i tried to reason with him but it was a lost battle another brave soul has been lost to the sugma blackglass retardation

i am sorry father i have sinned.

>>1832030
It does, honestly you want Covops 5 anyway if you scan more than occasionally.
Astero is overrated. It tries to do multiple things at once and kind of sucks at all of them, main thing its good for is killing other explorers, but it'll still die to a Heron that's fit to counter it and it cant take a T3C.
Astero would be better if it was cheaper, but 100mil plus fittings for something a covops does as well for 1/5th of the price isnt worth it.

>>1832104
Blackglass and Zeugma Balls combo is for ppl hacking with a T3C, not for normal shit.

>>1832110
Thing is eventually you hit a limit anywhere where you're waiting 0.5~3 sec per click for the game's lag to register that you've clicked a hacking node anyway, so you cant even spam click through the minigame unless you live in London.

>>1831921
>any difficulty in 20s tops
just hit all four you coward
if there's a fifth you can delay opening it by moving far enough away on grid that the spawns don't aggro to you and wait for them to leave

>>1832392
Wtf the fug
That's some esoteric ass knowledge anon thanks for the wisdom
I'll look this up later and maybe when I get some throw-away cheap fits I'll experiment with this

>tfw I manufacture Zeugmas

Haven't made any in a while. It's a bitch to accumulate the high-tech tools to make them, but the markup I can sell them for in nullsec is quite nice. Like an extra 200m over Jita.

>>1832225
>you'll die once and then every nigger will beeline for you after checking kb
>running around C1-C3 holes, spending days scanning and seeding because of muh 700m astero kill that will probably drop 300m loot tops
Are wormhole subhumans really this poor? I thought you guys made like 100b/h farming C6 holes. Or at least that's what you always present yourself as.

>>1832449
These faggots are chumps pay them no mind, if they want to spend 16 hours cloaked in some random relic site, let them
Besides I don't stick exclusively to C1-3's anyways

zeugma dick

>>1832449
wormholers are opportunists like everyone else
its more about the zkill value than the loot, people love killing zeugma tards.

>>1832341
>By your logic when other shit ass explorers see my Astero they FLEE in their justified fear because I might be a motherfucker hunting them
only if you decloak on top of them, until then you're just another moron that shouldve bought a covops.

>>1832561
>its more about the zkill value than the loot
>zkill
Kys you're self niggerfaggot shamalamadingdong frfr desu.

Shitposting aside, I do wonder how many people would flat out leave the game if CCP revoked the ESI access for killmails so zkill and such sites would become useless.

I guess people always need some scoreboard as a measuring stick, even though it doesn't mean anything.

post 700m astero km

https://zkillboard.com/kill/128199973/

>>1832582
we'd just save the big/dumb killmails in a chat channel or something
its less of a scoreboard and more "look at this retard i killed"

>died to a blaster heron

>>1832602
That's alright. That's kinda what we do already. But there's entire fucking alliances out there OBSESSING over their zkillboard. Then again I guess these kinds of retards would either quit or find something else to obsess with.

your killboard is shit

>>1832467
>if they want to spend 16 hours cloaked

If you think that's bad, just wait until you see the low sec smartbombers who spend all day camping Vecemia (or however it's spelled) killing t1 frigates and ventures in their proteus.

>>1832449
anon.... we are not killing them for the isk value. we're killing them for the salt value. you wouldnt understand.

>>1832781
no we're killing them for the isk value
because the larger isk value means larger salt

and in cases when people get salty over tiny losses then you just end up feeling a bit guilty*

*im reminded of a specific situation where an astero got stranded in my home without probes, I invited him to fleet and warped him to the highsec hole but he just sat there for 5-10 minutes while another astero man came and killed him. I sent him some isk out of pity but he gave it all back and said he was gonna rage quit uninstall (he didn't)

https://zkillboard.com/kill/122370911/
hes fed 2b to npcs since then. glad i got my isk back though it wouldve been wasted on him.

le epic salt

>>1832825
its true though
either real or perceived salt value is the reason we enjoy killing

>salt
you sound like a fag

I don't enjoy making others feel bad

Oddly specific place for a escalation

>>1832937
i hate it too but it doesnt make it any less true

fuck you niggers!
I just lost my 7m isk T1 shitfit Heron to some nolifer camping the wormhole 24/7 and now I have a permanent red mark on my zkill!

That's it! I am NEVER leaving highsec again!!!!11oneone

>>1833025
Your average /eog/ poster pic related

Guys, CTA
one of our miners was jumped

>>1833075
I'm busy with project discovery rn

>>1833025
>I am NEVER leaving highsec again!!!!11oneone

I've probably been ganked more in highsec than anywhere else desu.

ive never been ganked in highsec, and ive ganked dozens of people
but im still petrified every time i go to highsec

>in Horde
>doing industry
>we just moved staging systems
>all my materials are close to MJ
>entire region massively camped by Frat for the past week because they know we moved

I can't realistically move my operations until I get a JF. I'm still a month out on skilling properly into it (I could sit in one a week or less) and my wallet keeps failing to break 7bil. I'm so fucked, bros.

I think my best move is to keep my stocks at a bare minimum just to keep the jobs running. Not at all what I like to do. I just don't see any other way I'm going to accumulate the 12bil or so plus tip I'm going to need for the hull, mods, insurance, the moving costs and maintaining operations.

>>1833171
Just ask Tehol to move it for you. He's got like 15 jump freighters.

>trying to do industry with single-digit billions
brother

>EVE
>pve

>>1833196
I'd rather wait. For now I can still sell a little in MJ and ship easy enough to Jita.

>>1833205
I have average of 10 bil worth of shit in each of the stations I build at and another 12bil in sell orders. Another few in buy orders. I was comfortable having a massive inventory not needing to worry about stockouts, but this move to E8- has thrown a wrench in the gears.

>>1833252
yeah you're still too poor for industry though

No you aren't. I started my career with 1.5B of stolen salvage

>>1833276
Doesn't feel that way. I'm able to keep 30 production slots filled without issue. Far more science slots with more production coming soon. Idk why you struggled so much.

>>1833297
...why I struggled so much?
what?

>>1833311
So you're just talking out of your ass and have no experience when you say 10s of billions in assets is too little to do industry.

>>1833319
I started with 25b ish and still wouldn't have had enough to keep lines running if there was a substantial shift in the market

granted I had 50 slots then and am pretty lazy about actually selling my product

>>1833331
>still wouldn't have had enough to keep lines running if there was a substantial shift in the market

How does this happen? I have over 300 fully researched BPOs and I went from 0 BPOs to that number in less than three months. Just build more than one item and this shouldn't be a problem basically ever.

You could get fucked on input costs I suppose, but there's always something profitable to build. It's also a good reason to build stockpiles.

>>1833376
Actually correction. It wasn't less than three months. I was way off. More like less than six months, but that was done primarily with 20 slots in the first three months.

Should I warp in?

>>1833444
If you want AIDs.

>>1832610
>But there's entire fucking alliances out there OBSESSING over their zkillboard.
if anything its a red flag to know never to join that alliance.
true chads, chill people and pro pvp corps dont give a fuck about their killboard and focus on the getting fights instead.
any corp that says "dont do X cuz if you get red on your killboard itll attracted neuts!" or anything similar is an instant heist their shit and drop corp from anything with a brain

>>1833072
That guy goes outside and loves his hobby which puts him multiple tiers above /eog/

>>1833563
>he undocks

Yikes.

Can we fucking nerf ceno already instead of unintentionally buffing it by making all resists stronger giving yet another reason to bring a cruiser that does 1200dps irregardless of its resists with its snowflake weapon.
Every single small gang fight turns into who’s ceno pilot is better. Everyone else is just there jerking each other off.

>>1833871
>1200 DPS

lmao you can't into math. If you're not using shitfits the Ceno effectively does ~4500-5k DPS and can maintain that on up to 9 targets.
The Cenotaph is a very silly ship.

>>1833873
Yeah I don’t know I think I was just going by the base damage on the fit window, I know it does stupid damage because it always is top damage on any rorqs that die to bombers bar by quite a large margins.

And it’s covops capable as well for whatever reason.
I would think after half a year we’d be sick of it doing stupid damage to the point that any small gang that doesn’t have one is at such at a disadvantage that you might as well just call it quits there and then.
Then again the ENI is still the best cruiser in the game so I guess I’ll be finally free of it in 2035.

>>1833871
>>1833873
>had a fight against 10 caps the other week, we're in ikis/drekas
>our ceno pilot doesn't even make it onto half the kills but is still top damage by a landslide
They're actually insane. We thought the trig ships were nuts when they released but if your whaling fleet doesn't have a ceno you're basically fucking stupid. They make fully spooled Ikis look like Mallers

>>1833886
>>1833879
You can drive-by breacher dreads doing PVE shit and if they aren't properly tanked they'll die from just breacher prods kek.
The cenotaph is so absurdly broken it's not even funny. It's theoretical maximum on-grid damage is more than a fully spooled zirn with HG mimesis if you can keep the maximum number of breacher pods rolling.
The Russians are already starting to do fleets of nothing but dreads, Nestors, Cenotaphs, and fucking mass ECM burst scorpions.

even if it's retarded, krab/blob ships should be getting nerfed

>Put heavy beams on stratios
>suddenly see no reason to use drones.
I can shoot shit instantly at 60+km and not have to wait for the drones to arrive.

>>1834133
>what is a sentry drone
everyone, look at anon missing ~30% of his dps
what a total faglord

>sentry drones
this is a pvp thread

>stratios
>pvp

>not omen ironically

>billion isk battleship
>multi-billion isk station
>SHIP CLIPS WITH STATION
CCP A SHIT REEEEEEEEEEE

>>1834301
They have PvP use…
One shotting bombers who don’t know better.

>>1835035
>>1834301
Eos blobs are the single most cancerous PvP meta in eve right now. Literally nobody likes fighting Eos blobs. Forget one shotting bombers, they alpha Basilisks. Being able to have your entire fleet apply damage on exactly the same game tick is ridiculous.
Nothing that can catch and hold them can kill them because they haze the shit out of tackle, and nothing that can kill them can catch them because you need scrams on the Pontifexes to stop the booshes. The only way to "win" is to either get lucky catching them by surprise on a wormhole, or to undock something equally cancerous and force them to disengage (you don't even kill them they just leave).

Fuck Eoses. Fuck Drone Assist.

I honestly regret buying Omega.

I just want to mine ice, produce things and be comfy in this game, but there's no point. Why would I mine ore in hisec when I can flip burgers for an hour? An hour of real-life minimum-wage work is 1.6 billion isk. It would take me 40 hours minimum to earn that in the game, because my skills are not optimal, so I can't do anything except basic bitch shit.
EVEN IF I could earn that in 20 hours, that's still a terrible investment, since literally one hour in the real world will make me richer than I have ever been from in-game income. This really is a game for fags with disposable income to waste all their time.
I'm going to go alpha only, and maybe I'll mine ice a little. But the game is fundamentally broken. There is nothing that can be done though. If they didn't conduct the buying and selling of PLEX themselves, there would just be unofficial account selling like there was in the past. The game has always been Play to Win unfortunately.

>>1833171
dude just work for 8 hours at McDs you can buy 12 billion isk

>>1835173
yeah and i think those nerfs didnt do shit, its still probably the scummiest way ive seen people evict small gangs, over 10 eos and then they just log out in system for timers

>does the easiest to multibox activity in the game
>complains that it earns jack shit

What are you supposed to mine in nullsec to complete the 2000 ore daily?

>why would i mine ore in hisec
no idea nigga

>>1835258
briefcase birb!

absolute soul

>>1835243
Cry more nigger

>>1835256
mostly i'm complaining how worthless isk is and why it's dumb to flex nuts in this game when i can buy billions for real world peanuts
>le kill board
doesn't interest me
>le wh/null sec life
boring, tedious
>le pvp

>press f1
>press alt+f1
amazing, great gameplay

>>1835464
>>press f1
>>press alt+f1

Try FCing.

>>1835464
>>1835522
Or smallgang.

>>press f1
>>press alt+f1
>amazing, great gameplay

you press buttons in all games retard

>BING BING WAHOO

i only play games where i don't press any buttons

>jackpot: no hands

>>1835464
Isk isn't worthless, you're just failing to understand the scale of isk making.
I spent a couple of hours grinding yesterday and made 6b. You are trying to do the equivalent of searching payphones for loose change and wondering why it isn't earning you lots of money.

Hey guys what's the current state of the game?
I used to be pretty active about 12-13 years ago and was thinking about picking out the game again if I can remember my damn login credentials.

>>1835257
Find an anom that has a few little rocks of Pyroexes left in it.
Fit a Venture with 1mn and cap stable shield booster and as big an extender you can fit so you can survive any lucky wrecking shots that might hit you.
You'll even have enough dps to slowly kill any battleship rats if you're in the dronelands.

Failing that, jump in a wormhole and pop out in lowsec/highsec real quick.
if you're busy/lazy just spend the Evermarks. They're basically useless since they decided not to use them with SKINR last minute to push PLEX sales.

>>1835464
anon just literally play the game and have fun.
after your first week or two you literally dont have a reason to ever worry about isk. just do random fun shit and have fun cuz its a video game about spaceships.
you're trying to go into a chill, casual game about spaceships with a WoW min-max mindset.

>>1836037
game's fine. null is about to have a big war. lowsec has been the hotspot for a few years now. wormholes are same as they always were except 1 corp owns all of the C6s and the good C5s.
highsec has more shit to do now with burners, homefronts, abyssals and other shit that all make 100-200mil/hr.
faction warfare got a revamp a couple of years ago that saved the game from 9k online and now we sit back at 29-35k online most nights.

just jump in, fuck around on a free2play account and have fun.
the fags crying are usually bittervets that havent actually played for 5-10 years, or actual retards who do stupid shit and act surprised when they get suicide ganked in highsec.

>game's fine

game is crap

>>1836037
Game is in a better state than ever.
Several glaring issues and big old bugs have been fixed.
There has been a slew of economical fixes and the economy is finally good and healthy again with inflation almost completely under control.
Industry is doing better than ever.
Highsec has several healthy trade hubs due to the changes to highsec routes and dynamic regional taxes. Jita is no longer the main tradeing hub of the game, it's no longer even the biggest trading hub.
Lowsec is thriving, lots of small and even medium sized fights happen daily without a thread of being smothered by a BLOPS drops from big entities due to recent changes. Faction warfare is healther than ever.
Wormholes are good, with several medium sized alliances having constant fights over C5/C6 wormholes, wormhole mechanics have been made less cancerous and more streamlined but still prevent big nullblocs from pushing in on wh space. If you like good fights and independence, wormholes are the place to be now.
Nullsec is about to have the biggest war in EVE history and due to CCP upgrading the servers and completely rewriting the game code to account for the modern cluster server capabilites the TIDI rarely falls under 50% even with 6k people in local duking it out.

The game is better than ever.

>Nullsec is about to have the biggest war in EVE history
as a soloer how does this help me? does it compensate for the filament nerfs and tanking buffs?

of course not, silly. You are not the target audience

>>1836294
join the battle in a blockade runner and slurp up expensive wrecks

>Highsec has several healthy trade hubs [...] Jita is no longer the main tradeing hub of the game, it's no longer even the biggest trading hub.
this is just blatantly false. Jita centralisation is worse than ever.
Perimeter has more trade value alone than Amarr+Ashab.

>>1836294
>as a soloer how does this help me?
They've added a mercenary system for corporations so you can hire yourself out to help one side or the other for compensation (ISK, mining rights, research, etc.). Since they removed and banned multiboxing/multi accounting from the game it's almost impossible to abuse and has grown to be a big system that helps new players or solo players like you participate in the wider game. It's honestly genius how they were able to come up with that. It alone brought like 30k people back to the game, with the average number of concurrent players currently being almost 100k.

The game is better than ever.

what is nigga even talking about

dude living in some alternate reality where banning multiple accounts doesnt just reduce pcu by 80% overnight

>>1836287
>>1836342
I see the vision, anon. Just imagine, bros.

>>1836287
please talk to someone about your copium addiction
there's help out there

>yuropoors wake up
>thread goes to shit again

this game would be sick if you took all of america, put them in pods not space pods, just life support pods and hard-wired them into the game
imagine 350m pissed-off americans with nothing to do but play EvE all day. you'd have former CEOs and politicians jockeying for power as newsubs with <1m skill points.

why is dragging a dead zombie 20 feet more exhausting than killing 50 of them with a melee weapon?

I have never played EVE before and thinking of trying in 2025.

Do they use any sort of kernel level anti-cheat?

I run everything in a KVM guest. I have had zero issues playing EAC or BattleEye games.

I was able to install and test Fortnite the other day just for shits and grins.

Will they ban my account permanently if they catch me using a VM in the future? Or will it just boot me from the game? (Most of the time this is what happens when anti-cheats detect it, and they only ban cheaters)

I don't do anything special to hide my VM except when I play gachas.

When you see people whining about having problems in a VM they just suck at VFIO and libvirt.

I just don't want to put a lot of time into a game and then get my account deleted for playing in a VM.

>>1835258
I actually mine a lot in highsec on an alt. Makes me gain isk while ship spinning for the next fleet

>>1837268
epic <10M/h

>>1837198
>kernel level anti-cheat
>in a 25 year old spaceship autism game
lmao

pretty sure ccp don't even collect hardware info unless you send a bug report.
the only thing thats bannable regarding vms is using them to multibox f2p accounts.

the game runs great through proton fwiw, idk why you'd bother with kvm guest.

Wow, with the portable comfy, the Krita AI shit managed to connect first try. Truly unbelievable how shit the standalone is, considering googling it leads you to the standalone installer and not portable.

>>1837331
Because I run everything in KVM guests.

My GPU setup is as follows:
1) Integrated is for the host
2) RX 6400 for my Linux desktop guest (best single slot GPU I could find)
3) 4090 for my Windows guest

2 & 3 are isolated on bootup

CPU is 7950X3D which has two CCDs. One is basically a 7800X3D and the second is a 7700X.

4 cores of the 7700X on the host for stuff like iothreads.
4 cores of the 7700X are isolated at bootup for the Linux desktop guest
The entire 7800X3D is passed through to the Windows guest for gayming.

I have 192GB of RAM. 32GB for the Linux desktop guest, 64GB for the Windows guest. Plus 96GB left on the host not being used. I got way too much RAM but it is better to have too much than too little.

Windows guest has an entire NVME dedicated to it and I just use sparse .qcow2 for the Linux guest. I don't notice any performance issues and it makes things much easier for backup.

My Linux guest .qcow2 is only like 150GB still because I store everything on my Unraid box.

I get basically 99% bare metal performance in the WIndows VM and the hardware is all on IOMMU groups that are not shared with anything the host or Linux guest are doing.

It would be extremely hard for anyone to escape the Windows guest and access the host or other guests.

Every lowsec system being cyno-jammed WHEN?
It's still empire space, should be cyno jammed like highsec.

>>1837398
I think Eve is the perfect game for you. You clearly have enough tism.
As far as anticheat goes, eve barely has any.

>>1837398
thats sick even if i don't really get why you'd bother
you'll probably really enjoy eve

>>1837398
don't waste your tism on eve, game sucks

Suitonia please lose weight.

>>1837268
lmao

>>1837706
>game sucks
Which is why its perfect for autists.

Why are data sites such shit?

>>1837990
there's a lot of stuff they drop which has literally zero use and sells for sub-ten isk (seriously why does this shit exist)
i don't know if there's any actually good drops besides decoders and they only show up in ones and twos

>>1837829
factorio is perfect for autists
eve of for undersexed losers with disposable income. it's pay to win since you can buy currency.

>>1838397
There's something satisfying about making wallet numba go up. I could just buy plex and only login for fleets, but I like doing the other shit and competing on the market.

If I ever get burnt out I may just do that though. Play some other games, reduce my account number to one, and only login to pew pew.

>eve of for undersexed losers
I fucked your mom last night.

>>1838403
must have been a dusty fuck, she's been dead in a box in my closet for 10 years

>>1838406
Wasn't my proudest lay.

Reddit seems to be promoting EVE again
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/1lqt7y2/video_describing_the_overly_realistic_financial/

How much isk do you have in sell orders /eog/?

>>1838666
None, markets are hard these days

>>1838667
Trying to sell a Minmatar Battleship some guy have me because everyone in this game is super rich and shows noobs with shit which kills my desire to do anything.
I should just spam rookie chat with a hot female avatar, begging for shit.

>>1838678
Just go join a huge alliance newbie corp like KarmaFleet. That way you can get rich quick with their support system until you're ready to fuck off on your own.

What is the best way to print isk without flying something crazy expensive?

>>1838697
Credit card.

>>1838666
I rmt'd and quit

>KarmaFleet

>>1838715
Has your life improved?

>>1838703
I'm looking to plex with isk, trying to give CCP less money.

>>1838735
Enjoy hating the game and quitting after a month.

>>1838716
Why wouldn't you? They have better resources than horde, less likely to scam you than unheard of corps and their space will make you rich. Its not like its long term.

>>1838739
Not gonna grind for plex each month, just trying to build a fat stack while I play so I can buy years of game time.

How much do you normally stay under freighter wise?

>>1838795
4b

>>1838842
isn't that gankbait?

>>1838735
Ironically, due to nuances with PLEX cost in USD, you're giving them more.

>>1838882
Maybe but it won't be mine

>>1838877
just dont go through uedama its that easy

Recently joined a corp in lowsec amarr, looking for more members who want to do shit.

>>1838795
Create a contract instead.

>>1838890
Impossible when running Jita to Amarr

>>1838901
No.

How do people make money station trading now? I logged back in years after RMTing out of the game and found out that .01isking is no longer possible and any short-term trading profits are annihilated by brokers fees

>>1838898
>corp in lowsec amarr
ARTON?

What is better a blockade runner or a DST?

>>1838994
Both. Literally since they use the same skills (plus cloak for BR but you should have that on IV in any case).

>>1839013
Okay but what is the difference. Like highsec vs low/null?

>what is the difference
did you read the description and bonuses

one has a covops cloak and one has a big cargohold
why do you think they're comparable

retard

>>1839018
DST
>can carry 60k+ m3 of cargo
>can fit interdiction nullifer
>slipperly cloak + mwd
>can be really tanky
>innate 2 warp core strength so one guy with a nonfaction scram can't hold you
It's pretty good for carrying various shit around, very safe in highsec if you take basic precautions, pretty safe in lowsec if you don't go through known camping systems. You can use it in null/wh as well, though it isn't as safe. In highsec I regularly carry up to 4b stuff worth in it without worrying about getting ganked, but I kinda know what I am doing. PushX guys carry up to 10b worth of stuff in for highsec.

BR
>small cargo, use it to move low-volume high value stuff
>covops cloak
>can be fit for low align time
>interdiction nullified
>actually decently fast with MWD especially compared to DST
>ceptor-tier warp speed, fit with hyperspatial rigs for MAXIMUM SPEED
You can get a Viator down to sub 3s align pretty easily, with interdiction nullifier and covops cloak which will allow you to slip past everything but the most camped systems (where they dump 3 trillion containers around the gate to prevent cloaking).
If you are willing to shell out even more ISK, you can get a Viator down to sub 2s align. If you know what you are doing while flying a BR, you are basically ungankable in any type of space, downside being low storage space.

>spoonfeeding

>>1839049
I love my DST and BR.

The only time I've ever been killed in a BR was when I wasn't paying attention and warped into a bubbled ansi. I literally alt tabbed to my BR and clicked warp. By the time I noticed hostiles in space it was too late to cancel warp (sup 3 align). Luckily I was empty.

>>1839085
>I love my DST and BR.
I love raping niggers.

I don't know what that has to do with anything but you do you I guess

you know that's how you get aids right

>>1838697
abyssals
go make 60mil/hr with a 30mil isk assault frigate.

>>1838922
by stocking the smaller markets with shit they run out of.
Jita is shit, you dont want to be there.

>>1839018
DST most of the time, it carries like 60km3 or 70km3 or so. I use one all the time for moving shit in/out of wormholes
BR when hauling small but extremely valuable cargo around, flown right its almost impossible to catch but because it has an unscannable cargo hold gankers will kill you on sight in highsec assuming you have a few billion of shit in your cargo.
Ore, PI, gas, minerals I just use the T1 haulers.

what can I do solo on alpha account that isn't gay

>alpha account
4/10 I guess. FW.

oh wait alphas can't T3D for efficient 4/10 farm
I guess they can fly Orthrus

just fly an gila like every other chinese retard

>>1839316
is there anything at all you use the nonspecialized t1s for?

>see 1 day gila default avatar
instant report

>gila
>orthrus
no that's gay

>>1839345
>nonspecialized t1
Nereus is useful as a cheap indy cyno alt for your JF or as a brick tanked cyno bait for BLOPS drop on someone.
Aaaand that's it. If you can fly BR/DST there's no other reason to fly nonspecialized T1 haulers.

>>1839201
>niggerlover

Eww

>>1839345
No. As for cynos, I'll stick with a venture.

>>1839049
Thank you! This is so much more helpful!

>>1839305
Yep abyssals print isk

>>1839085
>>1839049
What is the best for my highsec alt?

>>1839521
a bullet in the brain you fucking triple nigger

>>1838931
No, they're mostly pretty krabby but they do WH ops and shit when the weekend hits so it's alright. They want to expand their base so they can start pushing for more resources instead of poverty farming the highsec pipe. I am in the /v/bros channel if anyone wants to take a look

>>1839528
Why soh angry

>>1839316
Thanks! Do you get ganked much in dst?

Which ship says I hate niggers the most?

Jews too.

>>1839345
Yeah sometimes.

>Bestower
Carries like 44.3km3 with perfect skills and tech2 rigs. Largest alpha hauler you can fit.

>Nereus
Actually not a terrible combat ship cuz its a hauler with 3 drones. Actually decently tanky too, with either with a hull tank or a strong passive shield tank

>Sigil
It was the go-to Entosis ship and Cap Escalation ship for a while cuz you can fit a stupid strong 800hp/sec passive shield tank on it, plus it actually has some good skins and looks cool.

>Iteron
Honestly I only use it cuz I end up training Gallente Hauler on all my alts anyway for the specialized ones.

any good wh corps to join?

>>1839806
Probably Amarr, seeing as theyre the catholic church proxy loosely arranged in the Byzantine style

>Abrahamic
>anti jew

>>1839209
>>1839298
>>1839395
I, I, I love little niggers
They make me feel so good
I love little niggers
They make me feel so bad
When they're around
They make me feel like I'm the only rapist in town
I love little niggers
They make me feel so good

>>1839888
>tabernacle of moloch, the synagogue of satan
I'd say fairly on the nose policies there

>>1839918
>two groups of feuding jews call each other satanic

Wow. That's crazy.

>>1839868
somebody PLEASE respond

tengoo

>>1840415
Omnivores. I hear they are LBTQTRANNYSHAMALAMA+++ friendly. You'll fit right in.

I shan't be posting my elite wh corp in this thread

So obviously all the old /v/ corps are either dead or bittervet retirement homes, altruism, love squad, all out, pizza, etc how much interest is there actually in making another sperg Corp? I have 160m sp and more than capable of supporting a corp to grow from the roots up but I don't really believe there is any interest in starting from scratch anymore.

What is there to do anymore? I doubt a group like pizza for example could find good content in modern eve.

>>1839868
yeah mine

>>1840892
The entire meta gameplay loop relies on new corps growing up to contest the older established alliances for their space. In theory it's self regulated because these big old corps are full of fat lazy care bears that can't handle any real threats to their isk grinding. We see all the time the consequences of some shithead grabbing alliance getting their players screwed with via afk cloak camping etc, they cry and cry and cry and eventually CCP capitulation comes in because those guys do represent the majority of account holders even though pandering to them is killing the game.

Without fresh blood rising up from time to time there is no game there's nothing to do and no reason to grind isk or mine

>>1840683
i’d join if you started one. we could find an uninhabited c4 or something and put an astra down

>>1840683
Not a lot of interest probably. A lot of people are probably already deeply entrenched in their own corps and alliances.
Besides WHs are autistic and annoying unless you have a lot of time and/or alts.
If there's gonna be a new corp at any point in this games (probably not so bright) future, then I think you are better off making a lowsec corp.

>>1841184
That's what i did I joined a lowsec corp but its a bit too quiet, need them S199 connections to dunk krabbs with

>>1841184
>A lot of people are probably already deeply entrenched in their own corps and alliances.
This, also 4chan corps tend to be picrel or just spies/alts.
Taking anonymous posters and putting them together in a game where your 1 character's reputation is everything just doesnt work.
All-out only even had like 5 members cuz it was getting shilled by a youtuber.

>>1841204
>picrel
sorry I'm actually a retard but my point still stands

>meta gameplay
just normal gameplay for me thanks

>>1841204
>Taking anonymous posters and putting them together in a game where your 1 character's reputation is everything just doesnt work.
I mean it could work if you decide your entire corp to be the "bad guys" right from the start and have the rest of the game pissed off at you, kinda like even more assholish Wingspan. You'd need to stage out of Highsec/Lowsec/NPC null or Thera for obvious reasons.

>>1841206
If I read this correctly, they joined the crop just to AWOX an Orca? Meh.

>>1841206
The only thing more cringe than 300mil a month to mine for 6hours a day, is joining a corp to AWOX miners mining 6 hours a day for 300m isk a month.

your cringe fag

nothing fucking worse than when guys start rambling about the fights and ganks they had in the mid-to-late 2000s.45 minutes of boomer babble regarding the nigga they just killed deserving it because he 'said something really fucked up', in 2017 and 'how hard they fucked his shit up back in the day', for it, to see a 7 year old conflict 30 zkill pages ago, in which they only killed like 4 barges and an astrahus. when barges werent even 50m isk fully fit, valued by the linked killmails theyve had stashed in their characters notes for nearly a decade or more.

you missed out

Missing out would have been WoW 15 years ago. Eve is great these days.

wow was never good

>>1841563
Neither was 4chan. Yet here you are.

>>1841341
It's a classic.

Tell me more how you used to run null sec back in the days grand dad, I for sure want to hear how you and your boys used to be outnumbered 1 to 20 and still come out isk positive when everyone was playing on shit CRTs and like 5 fps. It is a classic eve fleet experience that as soon as everyone is just waiting itching their ballsack one cunt will start going off on one about all the battles he's been in. Brother we are all waiting on a gate for the last hour and we'll probably not get a fight if you don't shut your whore mouth I'm going to fucking commit right here right now.

>>1840901
Problem is new corps can't grow and contest old corps because every single system has a mandatory 15 hour structure bash to take it. Structure timers in nullsec have just turned into a massive sandbag. Alliances anchor structures purely to force anyone trying to take space to bash them, and nobody wants to take space because doing so requires forcing your corp members to spend hours upon hours bashing structures, which is a recipe for attrition.

Upwell structures simply shouldn't have a damage cap for armor or hull unless the structure is manned. If you can't be bothered logging in a single character to defend a structure, then the damage cap is meaningless anyway, so make it require the structure to be manned at the bare minimum. It takes a minimum of 30 minutes to bash a single Astrahus with the damage cap, it's fucking stupid. If someone isn't willing to man their structures at the very least, then let it get obliterated by a Super or something, they'd lose it anyway, no need to waste half an hour on it.
CCP also needs to tie upwell structures into the new sov mechanics so you can't just literally anchor 40 Fortizars like alliances currently do to sandbag any attempt to take space.

damage cap is the most retarded shit

Just make them easy to bash at this point they’re so fucking cheap that a titan is more expensive than a keepstar.

Make borders fluid again, balkanise fucking nullsec.

>>1842463
>>1842467
>>1842475
Terrible takes. Apply to CCP.

apply to my ass

>>1842480
imma apply my dick up your ass faggot

gaylord

>>1842463
Damage caps explicitly protect the small and new groups against bigger opponents.
If your small group can't find the 30 minutes to clear out a structure to put their own down then it's doomed from the start. However blending in with your own structure that does require at least 30 mins to clear offers large protection to someone just starting out.
Extremely retarded post

can I have a damage cap on my ship? I'm in a small group

>>1842491
The damage cap would still exist retard, you'd just have to man the structure to turn it on. If you literally cannot even do that, then the structure is going to die regardless of whether or not the damage cap is automatic or not, because you literally aren't defending it at all, therefore the damage cap is utterly irrelevant and just wastes time.

>>1842544
The point is that you have a fundamental misunderstanding on basic game mechanics or more likely deliberately shill for pro blob policies on 4chan out of all places which absolutely baffles me either way. Your new policy is once again explicitly favoring older and established groups over new ones because it shifts power from small groups to big ones.

>>1842476
T. Phorde or goon nigger.

>>1842551
That change does not harm anyone except blobs spamming structures they have no intention to defend in any meaningful way. You are gaslighting because you want null blocs. to continue being able to spam infinite fortizars so nobody will ever have the time to grind through their systems.

>favoring older and established groups over new ones
EVERYTHING in this game is about favouring old and established groups over new ones. And I do mean EVERYTHING. That's what the game is about. Don't like it? Fuck off rookie scum.

Nullseccers will literally quit the game if their 8 hours of Ishtar/Marauder/Capital ratting is interrupted.

>>1842560
Again terrible post. A null blobs structures can only be taken down by another null blob and defending alliance can afford to put 1 naked clone in every structure that is being attacked by a fleet. Your purposed change changes nothing for this dynamic except makes the bigger alliance stronger because a smaller alliance may not be able to afford to do that against the bigger one. It's an explicitly pro blob policy.

>>1842561
It's fine if you are pro blob, just don't try to mask the blob posting in retarded arguments. Just write "I want to stomp newbies, take away structure damage caps so I can kill them with my blob" That's in fact a perfectly legitimate and self consistent stance to take.

>>1842567
>Just write "I want to stomp newbies, take away structure damage caps so I can kill them with my blob" That's in fact a perfectly legitimate and self consistent stance to take.
Nein! Nein! Nein! NEIN!

I want to assrape newbies AND I want to feel self-righteous while doing it.

>>1842567
>can afford to put 1 naked clone in every structure that is being attacked by a fleet
That's fine, at least they have to do something.

>because a smaller alliance may not be able to afford to do that against the bigger one.
If you can't afford to put a single blank clone to man your structure then your structure is going to die regardless, so therefore the damage cap is irrelevant.

>>1842567
The idea might have been that, but please do let us all know how many true small gangs are operating truly independent space in nullsec nowadays and aren’t just someone’s pet kept there for content and if the big blobs wanted to they absolutely could glass everything they’ve ever owned into oblivion??

N+1 mentality ruined nullsec permanently, and CCP did nothing to address it.

fuck off

>>1842574
>so therefore the damage cap is irrelevant.
No it's not, the point of damage cap is to make time for the defenders to react. This is once again to protect small groups from a big group showing up and instantly clearing out an entire system before anyone has time to do anything about it.

>>1842575
>but please do let us all know how many true small gangs are operating truly independent space in nullsec nowadays
That's irrelevant to the discussion at hand. Making it harder for small gangs to exists in null doesn't make more of them and if you believe there should be more of them then you should be opposing changes that make it harder for them to exist. That's a self consistent stance.
If you hate that small gangs don't survive then what are you seething at me for?
If you like it then support changes like OP proposes because people like him are the people killing small gangs.

Cool so you can get everyone online to watch the blob absolutely demolish your structure because you’re never ever competing against 2000 goon retards and goon adjacent retards bashing your structure when you at most have 200 people.

>>1842579
>No it's not, the point of damage cap is to make time for the defenders to react
No, that's what the Reinforcement period is for. If you've spent two days in reinforcement and still haven't been able to organize someone to log in a clone to man the structure, then another 20 minutes isn't going to save it, it will die regardless.

damage cap is because they have no idea how to balance capital ships

>>1842582
I don't know why you write in this sort of passive aggressive manner. You are supporting a policy that explicitly benefits blobs and harms small groups yet you write as if you think small groups are good when you clearly oppose them with your actions.

>>1842584
It serves the same purpose, without it you could simply ignore the defenders, one shot the structure and peace out and do so for every structure in a system too. Reinforcement timer simply shows when you have to be online roughly, not decide the microsecond the structure dies. There would be nothing you could do against a blob without damage cap because without damage cap the attacking party doesn't even have to engage the defenders even if they show up.

>and still haven't been able to organize someone to log in a clone to man the structure, then another 20 minutes isn't going to save it
But again this makes it explicitly harder for a small group to defend because they have to put people who could otherwise be sitting in ships to sit in structure all over the system otherwise the structures die instantly. It's an explicitly pro blob change.

Nigga this is /vm/ I am here entirely to play devils advocate and argue for the sake of arguing.

>>1842591
>It serves the same purpose, without it you could simply ignore the defenders, one shot the structure and peace out and do so for every structure in a system too
No you couldn't, because there's a damage cap. Because the damage cap becomes active when the structure is manned, which is what happens when you're defending the structure, because a structure is roughly equivalent to having an extra Dread on the field.

>But again this makes it explicitly harder for a small group to defend because they have to put people who could otherwise be sitting in ships to sit in structure all over the system
No it doesn't. Structure timers don't work that way, it's exceptionally rare to have multiple structures coming out at the same time unless you're a null blob spamming 20 fortizars to sandbag aggression.
At no point has another ship in space ever been more valuable than the neuts and anticapital DPS our structures provide. And if ever they were we'd just sit an AFK clone in it, the damage cap for undefended structures does nothing but waste time.

If you don't defend a structure it dies. If you do defend a structure, you're going to man it anyway because Upwell structures are extremely strong. Making the damage cap in Armor/Hull only activate when the structure is manned would have absolutely no effect but expedite the destruction of completely undefended structures that would have died anyway, except now smaller groups don't have to kill themselves with 10+ hour structure grinds.

>>1842585
Damage cap actually exists to counter N+1, because the structure needs certain amount of HP to feel hefty and offer security against a drive by kill but because there's no upper limit on how many people you can bring the HP required to actually give that benefit without damage cap is absurd which then means onlybig groups could even kill structures. You need to balance the structures so they survive a group that can bring 500 dreads and if it takes 500 dreads 30 mins to clear one then a group that only has 5 has to spend over 2 days to clear one. If you instead make it so 5 dreads clears one in 30 mins then the guys with 500 take one out in 20 seconds. Neither of these is good so what you do is limit the max amount of damage the structure can take which caps the maximum effective fleet at something reasonable so that small groups can still play the game.

>>1842599
Again terrible post

No, the guy that says to remove damage cap is right.
>but muh small 200 people corp
They can fuck off to wormholes/lowsec/pochven. Null is for big blocs only and that is NOT going to change. Might as well make it less tedious for structure grind.
>but muh QQ QQ QQ QQ
I'll repeat myself again. Null is for big empires ONLY. Either join them or fuck off to somewhere else.

cunt

>>1842621
Wrong games fucking dead the lbig empire” can only get 2000 people max, it would be a much better state of affairs if it was just a group of 30-100 people with a few systems/constellations constantly having fights that actually matter versus whatever the fuck PvE gaming goes on there.

>>1842650
>can only get 2000 people max
That's irrelevant since compared to your "30-100 people" it still counts as a big empire and will crush them in no time.
>people with a few systems/constellations constantly having fights that actually matter
Yes it's called wormholes and they also have no asset safety making fights matter even more. So go there.

Strongest nulligger vs weakest wormholer basedfarmer

>nullbabs can't get around the world filter
You never were the brightest bunch, eh?

any wormholers who aren't arseholes

>>1842836
Nope. Being an ugly incel asshole with zero life is a prerequisite for living in wormholes.

How do you even get True Sansha Capital Shield Boosters? Are they from the pirate LP store? It's just occurred to me that I have no idea where they come from and there's no real info online. I haven't even been able to find them on Fuzzworks.

>>1842575
>N+1 mentality ruined nullsec

As opposed to the real world? Larger armies typically destroy smaller ones.

>>1842621
>Null is for big blocs only
This is correct.

You might not like it, but this is what peak sovereignty looks like.

>>1842870
Nigger PL literally made themselves famous for winning battles largely outnumbered with superior fits and quality tactics registered trademark copyright.

Brave Newbies and TEST led the way for the enshittification of null, and both PL and Goonswarm both quickly followed.

I won’t bother arguing in regards to real life in terms of the actual basis in reality of that sentence, plenty of outnumbered armies have beaten the odds. Quantity sometimes isn’t a quality.

>PL

Don’t disagree they were fucking cringers who took themselves a bit too seriously and I’m glad they’ve been relegated to capital alts only.

>>1842896
To which I would agree. A superior composition can overwhelm numbers. Those things are taken into consideration by FCs. They generally know what the adversary is flying and what their numbers are. It would be foolish to take a fight you know you have no hope of winning or at least causing heavy damage to. So retreating is a smart move, even if it isn't a fun move.

>>1842896
>winning battles largely outnumbered with superior fits and quality tactics
That is true if you are outnumbered by some amount. Not when the enemy has 3-10 times your numbers. N+1 is the KING.

>global plex market
>global
why though

there's no reason not to

its fucked up my spreadsheets and jeveassets thats a reason not to

Good.

gankerbros it's over for us how will we ever recover

the only reason people died with plex in their hold before was because they were retarded
the only reason people will die with plex in their hold now is because they're retarded
this change has no impact on gankers

What does ancillary even mean

From Latin ancillāris (“ancillary; relating to maids”), from ancilla (“maid”).

Repair my armor, janny.

>>1842853
probably a rare drop from Sansha Dreads/Titans that spawn in anoms sometimes

>>1843353
Retards who actually buy/use plex live in their own little world, do stupid shit and make weird demands. Let them play their little games

~I am an Uedama brutor and I wanna be free, hell with PACCP~
~I wanna eat where the Caldari folks eat, cause I'm capitalist on the bottom of the feet~
~I am an Uedama brutor and I wanna be free, hell with PACCP~
~I wanna be Caldari more and more, so I can bitch at the brutor next door~

>Caldari

>Uedama

>Laser cap reduction bonus

BIG BRUTOR COCK TEARING EMPRESS JAMYL'S ASSHOLE APART

>>1844405
rule 34 or its not real.

>mfw infinite ammo

not so infinite cap though

but t2 and faction crystals break

>spending half the fight reloading
>thinking you'll get top damage

>>spending half the fight reloading
uh huh

Reloading? What's that? You mean changing your crystals out for different range? You really shouldn't spend half the fight doing that unless of course you are talking about the Oracle which can simply annihilate it's opponent so fast that simply swapping out the initial Scorch to Multifrequency just to style on your opponent more.

>triglavians
fag

Local queer TRIGNIGGED

Laser cap reduction bonus lets you fit an active tank, hardeners, without it your fit needs to be passive, membranes and plate.

I HAVE A STRUCTURED SETTLEMENT AND I NEED CASH NOW

SHOW ME THE MONEY

>>1842574
Damage cap being a triggered ability which lasts 10 minutes and requires the structure to be manned, 30 min cooldown

remove it

Propless is a viable fitting playstyle.

>>1845552
t. Freighter pilot.

>>1845552
t. bait pilot.

zapp pls destroy every single AO nigger in new eden

xoxoxo

>>1845740
What's wrong with AO?

they're shit at the video game

all weapons should require capacitor
those motors orienting the turret and loading ammunition don't work on nothing

>>1846706
they're powered by brutors

EO should die already so that its current niche would be opened to an actual good game.

>>1846706
My headcanon is that smaller Minmatard ships have gun decks resembling 17th century galleons and niggers manually aiming cannons. Bigger ships have hole teams of niggers with complex pulleys and watermelon dispensers and shit.

>>1846706
solar power retard

Why didn't the Amarr holocaust the Minmegros when they had the chance?

>>1847268
A line of cucked emperors.

What's the longest stint of time you've played Eve?

I usually never make it beyond a couple months.

I'm at seven months this time around.

>>1849049
depends how you define it
logging in daily? weekly? biweekly? monthly?

>>1849622
Daily.

>>1849770
two weeks or whatever the longest event login rewards were then

>>1849049
i played 4 hours a night from 2012 to 2015, then had to stop for a couple of years due to traveling for work, then quit fully by 2017, picked it back up 6 months into Covid.
been technically playing it since late 2020 but Ive had months where I've only logged in to do my PI and dailies.
Now I play very casually, my timezone is too fucked.
The only non-solo PVE content that interests me at the moment is Faction Warfare but I've been waiting 3 years for CCP to do something about chinese bot awoxxers teamkilling everyone.

>>1850232
derp I mean the only content that isnt casual solo PVE content*

>>1844405
Wrong. It will be my Big Khanid Cock.

>>1850232
The Chinese ruin everything

Redditlets cannot figure out Amarr superiority.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1lybys4/why_amarr_is_so_bad_right_now/

>>1850232
If you're AU tz hit up Caleb Seremshur in game

>>1851627
I'm Kiwi so I'm on too early for Aussies and on too late for Seppos.

>>1851643
ye im kiwi as well, active from 4pm to 10pm-ish most days

>>1851643
>>1851660
Fake made up country “New Zealand”

oh shit I'm moving to nz next year, didn't realise there were so many kiwis in this thread

>>1851924
All 3 of us are here, yeah

I'm retarded, what's with the new plex market? Did they disable contracts or something?

>>1852006
It's the same, you can just do it from anywhere instead of just Jita.

>>1851992
It's either us or join the shadow cartel kiwi corp. The pool of players in this area of the world is tiny

Last time I played, I got made fun of for wanting to skill towards stealth bombers.
Whats wrong for wanting to RP as a space submarine?

>>1852566
Thanks but doing my own thing for a while. Might check out some FW at some stage but for now trying out some burners.

>>1853015
Stealth Bombers are great and the skills for them are skills you want for other useful shit anyway.
Only tough thing is getting basically perfect fitting skills to be able to fit them, then still being over on CPU.

They're niche and very different to use than other ships.
Wingspan is cringe but his bomber class is actually legit. https://youtu.be/yJohc8nCZO4
All 4 of the bombers are almost the same but come in two types (4mids or 4 lows). I used the shit out of the Hound but recently started using the Nemesis more instead. Manticore is nice cuz it has the most CPU and 4 mids and Purifier has more cargo space which can be nice sometimes.

For ganking explorers, go with a 3 rocket launcher 1 blaster memefit. Having zero targeting delay after cloaking is great and usually you'll get someone into structure before they notice anything's happening.

>not triple blaster manticore
ngmi

I trained my Dread Alts into t1 Mining barges so I can huff gas in my farm hole, which one am I supposed to use for semi-afk gas huffing? Covetor?

>barges for gas
did they just kill off mining frigates then

>>1853015
When I started eve I remember wanting to skill towards stealth bombers too because you know...rogue n shiet in MMOs. Sadly it's not how stealth bombers work, though back in the days you can potentially kill something like pve drake I guess. They're weakest ships in the game designed to kill BS+ size targets but not solo (or nuking entire fleet of ishtars in pochven because ADC doesn't work in warp). If you want real submarine RP try BLOPs. ibeast had drop stream on Widow. Some other dude used Sin+tengu so he can neut marauders. As alternative you can just fly T3C with cloak.

>Sadly
all covert ships should be as weak as bombers, and they'd still be op

But they're already weak except for Cenotaph that will be nerfed to the ground soo. You're in big disadvantage with covert op sub in T3C. And Stratios is memeship.

loki is most used ship in game

Because of long webs. Covert op sub replaces you tank sub. Cloaky loki has no real tank.

nearly all of them have covops fitted

because all they do is ganking and killing helpless crabs in pve fits

>>1853285
You can bait idiots in to warping from gate to gate with you, drop a bomb at 40km off and let him MWD straight in to you. I've even killed streamers with this trick they seem completely mystified when their dramiel evapourates to a Nemesis

>because all they do is ganking and killing helpless crabs in pve fits
valid playstyle, and they can kill most ships

the bombers are also useful for baiting and catching cloaky niggers

>>1853015
The ship you want is the Panther.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0EPfjcuCYY

i want to join a wormhole corp with younger players, i cant deal with 40-60 year olds exclusively anymore

>>1853875
>hop on discord
>nobody left to groom, it's all old and used up trannies
I know your pain.

ive never dealt with a tranny in the time ive played eve, but these old guys are not much better than them

>>1853875
The average eve player is quite a bit older than people think. The game isn't well advertised to young people and asides when you have a declining education standard with entire cities full of functionally illiterate 18yr Olds you can't expect a complex game full of maths like eve to gain youth appeal

>>1854278
https://www.reddit.com/r/Discussion/comments/1al8sej/no_students_are_competent_in_math_in_53_schools/

And naturally the excuse for this is the ratio of teachers to students. In the 50s during the baby boom some teachers had up to 50 students in a class. They didn't have these problems.

>interdiction nullifier
why though

>>1853136
yeah lot of ppl run triple blaster but i'm not crazy on it cuz no range. rocket DPS isnt far behind while reaching like 8-10km, versus literal decloak range with blasters

>>1854278
>The game isn't well advertised to young people
The game is advertised everywhere on social media, just 12-22 year olds dont play it cuz its not Bing Bing Wahoo enough so they play Fortnite and Valorant instead.

>>1854770
based 12-22 year olds realizing that even Fortnite and Valorant have better and more engaging gameplay mechanics than this 2 decade old piece of shit

Come play Foxhole (aka Eve-lite) until CCPNIGGER gets their act together (unlikely) or a worthy successor arrives (slim chance).

I'd rather play neither

It's been a bizzarely long time since I've seen a covert research facility, at least it paid out this time around.

No, wait. This implant blueprint is worthless. I've been scammed. by myself.
Well at least I didn't miss out, the other cans didn't have anything either.

>>1855133
It's the Nanoscale Filter that's the value.

>>1855110
No your game is almost as dead as Planetside 2 go shill it elsewhere

amarr

>Battleclinic
>Eve Workbench
How do I fit a rail hecate

>rails
>typical mids
>mag stabs and a dcu
sorted

>not lasers

>created alpha account a while back
>trained into amarr frig and small laser skills
>can solo t1 electrics in a punisher with no sweat, making 4-5 mil per run easy

i created another alpha account, training it into a gila for t3 electrics and going to fund it with my punisher account. i've been told that alphas can run t3 electrics easy with a gila but is it possible to run t4s at all?

I used to run T4s with a 3x lse, invuln, afterburner. But they added the sansha and angel rooms since I last bothered with abyss so idk how is the situation with deathspawns these days.

makes sense, thanks

Wait are electricals the shield hp weather? Or something else I forgor. Unly run passive gila in the shield weather.

electricals are low EM resist and bonus cap recharge, they're the easiest since enemies get no actual bonus and both parts are really good for laser boats

>>1857746
I really wish they would expand on their exploration content instead making gimmick shit like this where you can farm bullshit in total safety. The fact that a high sec abyss farmer only dies from certain near impossible spawns should tell you why this content is fucking toxic and should be removed. At least lowsec explorers can actually get intercepted mid site and are never truly safe anywhere.

>>1858388
Abyssal deadspace is responsible for nearly 10% of all ship/module losses by isk value according to ccp, as of Fanfest this year. That's INCLUDING Null wars, but excluding losses from abyss runners getting ganked, so the real numbers are much higher.
Doing the abyss has a massively outsized risk compared to its reward based on CCPs own data, it is nowhere near safe.

>>1858435
>Abyssal deadspace is responsible for nearly 10% of all ship/module losses by isk value according to ccp
Where's the other side of the coin to that data? Sure, they are responsible for 10% of total losses but if they are also responsible for 30% of total ISK through red loot those losses don't mean much. Genuinely asking. Because I haven't seen abyssal red loot as a separate category on MER.

>>1858455
>responsible for 30% of total ISK through red loot
Abyssals aren't profitable as you may think. The risk/efforts/rewards ratios are awful. T4 is your only comfy spot. T6 are only realistically profitable from triple boxing and cheap vaga. T6 Vaga is absolute sweatfest. If you think EVE pve is ez press F1 mode, try T6 in cheap vaga. And the issue with Abyss isn't just risk/reward but key prices too. They're very expensive. The cheapest keys (Firestorm) are so cheap for a reason. Yeah Firestorms are profita-
>-30/50/70% Thermal Resist
>+50% Armor HP
-ACK

but nergal retribution deacon firestorm is so god damn good

there is no risk in dying in the abyss if you have the right fitting, skills, drugs,
and implants. its only about dying to a gank when you come out, abyssals are that easy
just get everything to level v before you do scary content

post you're abysstracker though guy
it looks so sad
you can farm C4 in t2 marauder, T3C+HAC or rattle and make 500-700m

>T3C+HAC c4
Tell me more.

>abysstracker
faggot

100mn T3C can tank barracks but doesn't have enough DPS for efficient farming (x2 times more EHP than a Stronghold). So just use second ship for support. Ishtar, drone prot. Or maybe even blaster prot or deimos.

>Not Omen

>>1858435
>by isk value
So all the twinks in their x-type everything blingy ship are driving that number up. In absolute number of losses it won't be that high, will it. We aren't talking about null wars where cost effectiveness is based off t2 fits where the entire idea is that you're in a competition of nations and the whole spectrum of skills and infrastructure. You're talking about a myopic and deliberately obscure stat based on high grade pods and super blingy shit dying once every 30 sites to a random chance of getting a room they can't complete

latest video said ship balancing soon

>>1858994
x-type fittings and mid-grade pods are the bare minimum entry requirement for high tier abyss. Reliable t5 fits run 4b. A t6 Gila is 6b. That's not a blingier version, that's the minimum. In exchange for essentially putting a Dread on the field these guys make... 400-600m an hour.
Which is why I don't do abyss anymore, the isk is shit, the risk is too high, and I can make several times as much money dread krabbing for similar risk.

>>1859085
i hope they buff punisher

>>1859490
+50kg mass and be happy plebiontay

Figuratively speaking Punishers can tank titans.

how can i make a lot of money reliably as an alpha clone

>>1860532
If you have nothing, your best money is faction warfare LP farming. You can also do belt ratting, it's almost equivalent to LP farming. I joined a militia on my alt and went belt ratting in their safest .3 system, it was like 50-100 mil an hour depending on drops.
If you have a maxed out or purpose trained alpha, the best money I know of is a Gila doing abyssals. I think you can do lvl 4 at most with an alpha without going into ridiculous fit prices.
You can also run C3 wormholes, but single boxing those sucks. Two characters farm C3 sites real quick, one does it slowly. Abyss/C3 hole single boxing is like 200/h, dual boxing is 250-400 an hour per character. Technically. not counting scanning and preparation.
Beyond that we're talking about scamming and trading. And not market trading either, alphas don't have the tax reduction skills.

>>1860684
>You can also run C3 wormholes, but single boxing those sucks. Two characters farm C3 sites real quick, one does it slowly. Abyss/C3 hole single boxing is like 200/h, dual boxing is 250-400 an hour per character. Technically. not counting scanning and preparation.
that seems really easy. at 200 an hour i could afford omega in 8 hour. that's one work day.
how is that even sustainable for the company. i could work hard for one day and pay for omega. not to mention all the other shit plex buys.

>>1860739
First of all, as I said, that's only technically 200 an hour, if we don't count the scanning. You also don't count the part when someone can show up and kill you.
If you are an active wormholenigger, that's not an actual problem, you are scanning anyway and you just go collect your money when you run across the opportunity.
Second, most people who play this game are either highsec or low tier nullsec players, who either mine or farm with subcaps. That's where most of the plex buying cattle comes from - they either don't know how to make money, aren't allowed (literally, nullfags have bizzare restrictions) or are 40 years old and can't be fucked farming sites in game after doing it for 20 years of their life.
The actual wormhole niggers that play actively don't make 200/h, they make 1bil+ an hour running C5 or C6 sites with dreadnaughts. Other than the chinkoid multiboxer that does this for a living by illegally selling the isk, your average WHnigger just wants enough to fight with. There's also lvl 5 lowsec missions, but that's a lot more involved because you can't just isolate yourself, you have to be on good terms with the people who own that lowsec pocket.
And if you're a lower end player, C4 sites with solo Marauders will generate 300-500 mil/hour while singleboxing. And I know C6 abyss players make proper income, but they have to do it with like 6bil worth of fitting and implants and they regularly die because of bugs, disconnects or just bad luck.
You can also run lvl 4 missions in highsec, but that's like 300 mil/hour, the specific setup requires 3 (I think) characters running at the same time and it's paradoxically one of the most dangerous ways of making money because suicide gankers can just show up and see what you're doing completely safely and for free. If you just want to run missions and salvage for fun with a cheaper ship, they'll blow up your mobile tractor units, which they also get to do for free with no risk.

>>1860770
i still don't see why everyone doesn't do this and pay for their subs that way. mining ore is some shit, the ROI is complete horseshit. i wonder if that's why Amarr looks totally starved for basic ores.

>>1860739
>how is that even sustainable for the company.
plex costs more than sub retard
it doesnt come from nowhere.

>>1860532
By doing 30min of overtime at your minimum wage job and pay for Omega.

>>1860830
Because the average nullnigger cannot comprehend the idea that more risk means more reward. I do two Dreads in a c5 and make about 2b an hour, in exchange I'm puttong 12b on the field for a minimum of 10 minutes with absolutely no chance of surviving if someone who lnows what they're doing rolls into me, or if i get logofff trapped.
The average nullnigger simply isn't willing to risk 12b, even if it's isk positive after only a week of krabbing. They want minimal risk, so they put up with minimal reward, or they just swipe for plex.

total multiboxer death

>>1861200
That would kill:
>majority of wormholes except for daytripping explorers/hunters/gas huffers
>majority of pochven except for the lone venture/endurance miners and people using it as an extraction highway
>majority of nullsec except for the, you guessed it, daytripping explorers and maaybe NPC null burner mission runners
>majority of lowsec (no more BLOPS/dread bombs) except for FW solo players which would actually welcome the change
>highsec because the amount of freight being moved outside Jita would drop drastically and because JFs would be dead highsec would no longer get null resources in any meaningfull quality nor could it export resources to null/lowsec

>but muh people would act as cyno alts
No.

>>1861260
Good.

Hating multiboxing in a game the mechanics of which absolutely require at least two accounts is dumb and autistic.

>it's dumb and autistic to want the game to become good

>game to become good
That would require a new game by a competent studio.

gaylord

multiboxing is only feasible because of the control scheme. if moving your ship and using your modules was more involved than hitting approach button + gun button many people wouldn't bother.

Yes, but as already pointed out, that would require a completely new game.

wrong

Completely new engine and fully reworking several basic major systems at the very least.

retard

>get a skin with ever merch purchase
kek what is this garbage did hillmar design this himself?

>>1831747 (OP)
You have a pedophile playing on your servers named silaru zangatsu. Well known for being a sex pest banned on second life for age play and turtle wow for revenge porning his ex.

You thought roach ware made this server bad there worst but guess both have things in common they groom minors both like pretending there not gay.

>>1862273
post killboard

>>1862182
How much is the nigger?

I'd like to set up a comfy mining operation that is decently safe. I'll have access to a main that can fly orca's and buff and stuff, and I have 8 alt mining accounts that are decently trained.

Last time I really played was in like 2015/2016 and back then I used a PoS as a staging point and had a gallente hauler just hauling cans while the orca boosted and my miners in retrievers sat in system. I did have problems with people ganking me in lowsec though. My general preference would actually just be as reasonably safe as I can be in a system kind of in the middle of nowhere minding my own business. I want to larp as an industrialist making ships and doing PI and stuff. I don't really care about money that much, I kind of just want to be able to sustain my accounts and like ship a bunch of ships to a remote trade hub in highsec and kind of do my own thing.

I'm not entirely sure what I need to do this nowadays. Can you set up stations that are kind of just for yourself in highsec so you can do ore compression and stuff? Ore compression was by far the most useful aspect of a PoS for me at the time as I didn't really do any sort of industry stuff.

I have about 7.8 bil.

>>1862533
Find an empty C3-LS wormhole, set up a POS, after a while put down an Astrahus. Roll everything off then mine in absolute silence to your hearts content. You get regular ore and Gas, plus you can always roll the LS static if you want to chase LS sites as well, and it gives you easy access to the real backwater LS areas that are normally a pain in the ass to reach.
You will need to haul fuel blocks though which is mildly inconvenient but if you already have DST pilots it isn't hard.

>>1862546
What do you mean by roll everything off? Sorry, my knowledge of Wormholes is a very, VERY brief stint in All-Out way back when and then exploration. I've never really actually done any wormhole management/living stuff myself. I know what rolling means I think, where you just move ships through the wormhole until it collapses I think, but I don't know what you mean by rolling off because my assumption was that it just created new connections every time you caved a wormhole.

I do have access to DST though. For finding a wormhole do I literally just fly around lowsec and check wormholes and then quickly set up a PoS once I find one?

What area of lowsec/space is basically vacant right now? Is there any space that basically no one wants that would be decent to search for wormholes?

Thank you for the advice btw, I am looking stuff up also but it feels like the game has changed a lot and I'm just trying to get my bearings. Is it fine to start with a basic PoS until I set up an Astrahus?

>>1862559
Wormholes have two sides, the "front" which is the named side, and the "back" which is the k162. Your static will always have the front inside your home, and the k162 won't spawn on the other side until either someone initiates warp to the front side, or the wormhole has stayed up for a long time. It has a chance to spawn the k162 every game tick once the wormhole reaches <15 hours lifespan remaining.

You kill every connection to your hole, roll the static, and you're sealed in completely with the exception of someone else's k162 spawning in your system, so you just need to watch out for new signatures spawning.

The best way to find c3-LS wormhoels is to scan them out in LS yeah. Just make sure there's not structures in it already, check for other players POSes etc. C3-LS are some of the least populated systems in the game though so it's not hard to find an empty one.
I recommend just trying it out with a cheap POS and some Covetors or whatever to start with. You'll have to figure it out ass you go mostly. Some of the WH gas sites have rats in them that spawn 20-30 minutes after the site is warped to, so you will need some degree of combat ship to clear them. This google sheet has all the site info, combat and ore/gas.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/e/2PACX-1vSaCHnBRDw8Ki6nuamMzQv3InN978Zh7F6RcwlYdJHnlQkDrrdz5zrG3Of_8eoyxeqJimMHt9-7GjLn/pubhtml?pli=1#

>>1862567
I can fly a maxed out Tengu as well as other sorts of combat ships, I have caldari BS V and Gallente Battleship V too. I'm not very good at combat stuff really, at least I've mainly just done level 4's and I've never actually flown a tengu before, but they're stuff I trained when I was in null briefly.

Can you recommend some useful stuff to have in a C3 in general? I'm thinking of just trying out a small PoS with a compression array and just mining barges and whatnot until I feel like moving in an actual orca and stuff just to see what its like but other useful ships and stuff would be interesting to know.

>>1862575
You need a couple of Battleship rollers, it doesn't matter which one but you want to fit plates/nanofibers/whatever until you can get it as close to 200,000t as possible in terms of mass with the Higgs rig. That makes the math easier because the 500mn puts it up to 300k. A C3-LS static is 1bn ton mass iirc so you do Not prop out, prop back, no prop out, prop back and it dies or crits. A HIC with Zero Point Mass Entanglers for killing crit holes. Extra scanning shit.

Just keep your investment low until you get comfortable, cheap fit Covetors and maybe a Porpoise for Compression.
If you stick to the smaller gas sites you can just clear them with covetor drones.
Note that Ore sites don't have rats at all, they're just much less valuable. Leave the combat stuff until after you've tried it out with the ore sites and shit.

>leave thread for entire week
>realize it's only me, anon, and another guy also named David bumping these godforsaken threads

What are the highest IQ professions in Eve?

>inb4 credit card

>>1862575
Speaking of Tengus. How viable would it be to snipe gankers in Uedama with one after they've aggressed? I lost billions there months ago and would love to grieve the grievers.

>>1862642
Not at all viable. All that will happen is you will get a suspect timer and they'll gank your 700m+ Tengu with half a dozen 2m Catalysts.

>>1862645
My thought process is im 100-200 off gate and blast at least a few of them, fucking up their gank and warp off.

Also I thought shooting people with criminal timers didn't give you any suspect timers.

>>1862654
You won't fuck up the gank, you'll just get yourself a limited engagement timer so they can kill you.

>>1862658
Well that's gay. How long does it take a Tengu to warp off? I feel like sniping they wouldn't be able to reach me in time.

I also dunno how many catalysts a Tengu could realistically kill from 200m in 10 seconds.

>>1862642
>sniping gankers
That's not how you grief them.

There's two ways to actually grief them:
>A) get a bunch of alts in logi ships and help their targets to fuck up their gank and make them waste money/ships.
>B) get a bunch of alts in DST/BR (or an iteron or something if you want to be real cheap) and scoop what would be their loot after a gank, even if you fail to escape they have to roll the die for the loot again, this makes them REAL FUCKING MAD and they WILL call you a nigger.

I mean you can snipe them with tengu or something, but only after they've engaged in the gank, so you probably won't make much of a difference and I think they'll get killrights on you but I am not sure.

>>1862533
Just join Null for fucks sake. With 9 accounts you can run a Rorqual and a mining fleet and moon mine for mad isk (and help your alliance). And if you are using a proper fit in a proper timezone in a good alliance they will basically almost always save your rorqual if you get jumped.

>>1862631
Jita Whore, obviously.

>>1862631
Alliance leader or renter bot farm to collect isk for RMT

>>1862631
AT Pilot
>work your butt off for three months
>sorted for life

I keep getting the urge to play EO but can't get over how clunky the game feels and how deeply flawed systems like local still exist (and no, WHs aren't the answer due to the scanning busywork). I wish somebody released the spiritual successor to EO already.

>>1862666
You're not going to snipe anything. Next time just play better. Don't try to fight high sec gankers. It's useless. Just google translate Osmon Queen blog if you're curios why it is useless.

>>1862891
>clunky the game feels
Skill issue.
>flawed systems
>local
Skill issue. Killing afk ishtars and miners isn't pvp btw.

>>1862891
Yeah that's the problem.

>>1862906
>clunky the game feels
>Skill issue.

Kill yourself you stupid nigger faggot. There's a reason multiboxing is so rampant in this shit game.

killing your ishtars and miners is pvp, faggot

There being next to zero other content in null than killing AFK ratters is another reason not to play.

What do you shoot ishtars with? those therm/kin passive resists...

>>1862946
>There's a reason multiboxing is so rampant in this shit game.
Yeah I would prefer Nebulous style fleet control for my alts.

>>1863061
Nova Rockets/Missiles

>>1862953
Bottom barrel pvp from shitters who are bad at video games but too ""cool"" for real ganking. Though killing miners for ORE strips is good and respectable.
Killing ishtars, without plans to hold them for undock PVP, is useless. Crying about local is a sign of ishtar epic hooonter because no one gives a fuck about local. WHniggers wouldn't even touch null without local.

Wrong. Blackout made WHers roam null and nulltards log out.

Blackout wasn't permanent. With time remaining nulltards would adapt to changes and WHniggers would lose their last advantages. WHnigger in null is on defense not offense by default. Local is a tool for both sides but it's more useful for WHniggers who tied to their holes and want to have good roam with good kills, good loot, good fight (if not shitters) and zero losses. Same for any non-shitters solofags who fly something more than T1 cruiser to kill afk ishtar (and warp away if ishtar had blue pill).

>Bottom barrel pvp from shitters who are bad at video games
I am better than you

Cope how you want but having a mechanic in game that makes sure the only PvP that happens is due to a player being afk or completely miscalculating his chances in an environment of perfect, free and uninteractable intel is just bad.

>>1863073
what game is this?

what's bad is having no negative consequences for running from everything

D-scan exist. PVP in the game happens everywhere in null see zkillboard. If you can't kill ishtar with local you will not survive permanent blackout. You can always go to WH and enjoy epic WH pvp. Nothing stops you from camping one hole for ten years for billion heron kills. Or camping lowsec. Or suicide ganking.

If killing Ishtars doesn't count as PvP then logging off my PNI fleet in peoples Wormholes and killing their dreads also isn't PvP.

eve pvp is boring
in elite dangerous you can ram the other ship at the very least

>>1863226
>no negative consequences for running from everything
Maybe you should learn game mechanics and how to catch people?

>elite dangerous
The game with damage sponges (thanks to engineers), retarded busy job mechanic like instant pip management, dishonest flight physics, ~5 working pvp ships, horrible meta and zero balance patches for literal decade? p2p game without any logout timers? What we have in EVE right now is magnum opus of pvp balancing compared to Shit Dangerous. Infinity: Battlescape died for this.

I know how to catch people faggot. and it changes nothing

You don't. Your killboard is shit too. I'm knower.

my battleclinic > your battleclinic

>>1862533
Contact Caleb seremshur. We live in gonan and use a nearby lowsec pipe for activities. Lots to do, lots of sites and rocks, border defense and wars keep things interesting

I haven't joined a fleet in two weeks.

>>1862891
>clunky
unironically skill issue. everyone says this until they play other MMOs and realise they need 40 UI mods to make the shitty other MMOs playable
>local
is based
>but I dont like local but want to play Eve
go play Albion then, its a smaller, more casual Eve with no local (it tells you a rough number of how many are on the map with you but doesnt say the exact number or who it is)

>>1863264
Space Engineers proved that ramming ships into each other is only fun a few times until you realise it just completely breaks the meta and makes the game unfun to play

>battleclinic

For me it's the comfy privately maintained killboards every corp used to have before evekill existed. And the forum signature you'd see on the eve official forums showing the pilot's latest kill.
Good times

Killboards and killmails are the cancer that killed eve.

lmao some retard got recruitment scammed for 170b by snuff

how do they fall for this shit

>>1864515
>excusing pajeet tier scammers and nigger mentality
SAD

>>1864534
If you're dumb enough to try to bribe your way into a group you deserve to be scammed

>>1864534
jeets prey on old people losing their marbles
recruitment scammers prey on retards desperate to join their faggot blob

not the same

>snuff
baka

What's so special about any corp/alliance in particular where you'd risk over a hundred billion isk to get in?

>>1864498
True. Getting your name posted on a wall of shame in addition the loss being ~meaningful~ probably kills lots of PVP that would have otherwise happened.

fortunately in Foxhole you can whelp tanks with reckless abandon and nobody knows
and yes, I care about killboards and actively mock anybody losing shit

>>1864758
>What's so special about any corp/alliance in particular where you'd risk over a hundred billion isk to get in?
Well some alliances, like Snuff, are genuine hardcore elite PVP alliances that constantly fight outnumbered and still win thanks to superior tactics/doctrines/SP/skill (kind of like what Pandemic Legion was back in the day) so a lot of people who want to be seen as the skilled players, or who want to take their skills to the next level, such as AT want to join them. Not too difficult to understand.

>>1864759
>and yes, I care about killboards and actively mock anybody losing shit
Based. Actual, elite PVP needs to be gatekept, shitters need not apply.

>superior tactics/doctrines/SP/skill
you mean isk

slave implants and capital alts

>>1864812
isk is included in doctrine

>>1864786
>Sovereignty systems [0]
>The alliance don't hold any system.

>Ticker: BBC

>elite

oof

>>1864891
>Sovereignty systems [0]
>The alliance don't hold any system.

As if this means anything for PVP you braindead nullshitter. Go press F1 as your FC directs you.

u just mad cuz u bad

>>1864812
Why are you poor?

>>1864892
>As if this means anything for PVP
Considering the entire premise of holding sovereignty means taking it from others, yes. The ability to defend it, extract resources and produce industry.

Pandemic Legion held sovereignty and still does.

>>1864896
>Considering the entire premise of holding sovereignty means taking it from others, yes. The ability to defend it, extract resources and produce industry.
Not in the era of megablocs where you get n+1d. Brave made sure that the era of Elite PVP dies.

>Pandemic Legion held sovereignty and still does.
Only because of PH. Legion would fold like paper if it was on its own in todays EVE.

>>1864904
BBC is free to join a collation and carve out some space. They might have to actually defend something for once though.

What's your fun per hour? Last night I spent nearly two hours huffing gas in total silence. A quick and dirty 400 mil. It's not a glamorous life but I have to make hay while the sun shines right

>>1864896
null has been so stagnant and lowsec has been so lively that null sov is far lower status than the sheer oppression of lowsec that snuff has been able to project.

Does this nigga really have no idea who Snuffed Out are? I'm a whfag that never sets foot in LS and even I know about them.

>nigga

Yeah you heard me

>>1864960
We all heard you, nigger.

Sorry for offending you by not being racist enough? Some people are so sensitive.

Apology accepted. Try harder in the future, you disgusting monkey nigger kike.

>>1864515
The story was proved fake ty for coming shill.

>>1865256
oh well
suppose that answers my question then

>>1864758
a lot of the top tier PVP corps are invitation only
so some will dangle "hey you can join our cool club" as bait to trick retards out of 100-200bil

is all out top tier

All out of talent

>Ticker: BBC

Top tier cucks.

>>1864946
Metenox drills making things in the game even worse. Look at the monthly economy report. Month on month decreases in economic activity

>economic activity
who cares

>>1866212
No economic engagement means that the ore you mine isn't selling. The DED modules aren't selling. It means the economy is stalling because the average player is too poor to afford anything. If they aren't collecting/making it themselves then they're either unsubbing or forgetting to log in because they have no participation in the market. This isn't a summer issue: it's been going on for ages

>>1866443
>It means the economy is stalling because the average player is too poor to afford anything.
>too poor to afford anything

No such thing. Flying T1 frigates/dessies is basically free. Especially with T1 weapons and modules.

>Not building it yourself with your free minerals

>Flying T1 frigates/dessies
>T1 weapons and modules.
Stop making low sec look poor.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with flying T1 ships with T1 modules.

>the >>1866443
ore you mine

>the ore you mine

Is unironically free.

>paying for minerals

>New fresh model
>50 drone bandwidth
>5 turrets
>Fast & agile
>Perfect amount of mid slots
And still nobody is flying it wtf

who what

>New fresh model
soulless

>>1867316
this
return to pre-trinity graphics
unironically

>mining

>>1831747 (OP)
Still have a pedophile and wife beater named silaru zangatsu on your servers. Should have someone really take out the trash.

Fyi this person has bragged about fucking fourteen year olds. The pedophile isn't a lie.

>>1867410
>Fyi this person has bragged about fucking fourteen year olds.
Absolutely based. What a king.

I prefer raping niggers but to each their own I guess.

What an absolutely abhorrent post.

Then fuck off to Reddit nigger. Or else I'll rape and eat you.

>>1867621
>I think fucking kids is cool and I support Israel and Trump

Just because you say nigger doesn't make you based. You're a faggot.

>>1867640
>muh Trump
>muh Israel

Shitskin detected. Go get bombed sandnigger.

>>1867772
Trump loves niggers, kikes and pedophiles. I don't give a shit about sandniggers getting blasted in a shithole.

You're either a christian or a jew, but I repeat myself.

Last time I played there was some tiny community part of the default faction corporation, I think it was a Gallente one, do those even exist anymore? They ran events once a while, maybe a fleet, and had some null-sec sister corporation

>>1869360
castabouts?
they're still around and running npsi stuff last i checked

>>1869505
I see, that's cool that I lucked out and ended up with that NPC corp, I had a lot of fun

Fuck this game.

Tried it for the first time. Don't need pvp, only pve. Decided to mine ore in lowsec, that went well. Earned some ISK to buy better stuff. Made sense and it was fun. Then decided to try gas mining and relic site exploration for more ISK.

Both of this require scanning. And boy fuck this! Probe scanning is the most retarded shit. I couldn't find any relic or gas sites after scanned countless signatures in lowsec, wh and nullsec. Is this supposed to be like this? Is finding relic site or gas site a fucking miracle event? Why does probe scanning work like it was pulled out of someone's ass?

stop looking in the most heavily trafficked areas and wondering why you dont find anything, moron

>>1869824

I check "jumps in the last hour" and dotlan. What else do you want?

>>1869811
>Is this supposed to be like this?
sounds like you got fucked by RNG. scanning for stuff is very RNG. some nights you'll scan for 3 hours and find nothing, other nights you'll scan for 10min and make 100mil.

Can anyone explain why the profit per hour looks so abysmal for T2 ships on A4E?

T2 Modules are regularly in the millions per hour, but most T2 ships are in the hundreds of thousands. The market saturation is much less, which is great and all, but when coupled with logistic fees and the lower margins overall building them doesn't seem very attractive.

>>1869862
>open agency tab
>exploration
>cosmic signatures
>check how many signatures are in surrounding systems before even undocking
>profit

>>1869983
try selling 10b worth of Small Remote Armour Repairer IIs or whatever the fuck

>>1869998
Great idea, anon.