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Welcome to the Rivals of Aether General. Here we discuss things in the Rivals of Aether franchise and other Aether Studios games!

>Latest Patches (Rivals II): https://steamcommunity.com/app/2217000/announcements

>Rivals of Aether official sites, Youtube channel and X(formerly Twitter):
https://rivalsofaether.com/
https://rivals2.com/
https://youtube.com/@RivalsofAetherOfficial
https://x.com/RivalsOfAether

>Where to get the games (on PC):
>Rivals of Aether
https://store.steampowered.com/app/383980
>Rivals of Aether II
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2217000
>Lovers of Aether (Free Game)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1043180
>Dungeons of Aether
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1668290
>Dreams of Aether
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3463050

>Feedback form:
https://rivals2.com/nolt

>Rivals of Aether 2 resources:
https://rivalsframedata.com/
https://dragdown.wiki/wiki/Rivals_of_Aether_II

I love my wife!

Glad that review bomb campaign didn't go anywhere

>>1833131
Don't worry, the game's getting review-bombed again in 2 days when Absa's released, new players get raped in placement matches, and they see that there's still no real tutorials 2/3rds of a year after release.

>>1833192
>tutorials
Back in my day we would get our ass kicked to our teeth before we learned to git gud.

>>1833261
Don't make me post the Virtua Fighter tutorial. I do agree that too people are too soft when it comes to fighting games. Post-Melee Smash has also produced a particularly pathetic breed who take personal offense to other players knowing how to play.

>pool party event
Hmm...

>>1834411
to nobody's surprise

In a perfect world...

>>1834512
>6 fire characters while other elements only have 5
>no guest characters

>>1834549
Fill the other slots with OCs. And fuck crossovers. Unless they can get a big name like Silksong or Goku, don't pollute the roster. Ori and SKnight were the worst adds to the first game.

>>1834512
just 2 more weeks!

>>1834613
I didn't play RoA1 so I have no strong opinion about crossover characters, but I do think that Hornet or Sybil would at least fit the game with some minor adjustments. There's a lot of anthropomorphic animal indies to pick from these days.
Fuck Deltarune.

is it up yet

>>1835265
It's up. Also, they really need to hire someone to proofread their patch notes:
>Fireworks DFX (Promo this for Fourth of July, also mention in patch notes as a new standalone DFX.)
This is like the 4th time they've left in spelling errors or mistakes.

>images showing off the summer palettes are on a test stage
>could have easily used Merchant Port since it's, you know, summer palettes
>platform layout is different from any existing stage
The only question is whether it's a new or returning stage. It's similar to Sylvanos' stage, but who knows.

what were they thinking?

>>1835773
If you think this is bad, wait until you see Sylvanos' every normal

Man, /vm/ is tough, huh.

>>1836875
yea, this board doesn't have much traffic

>>1836875
No one will use this thread specifically for roa because it belongs on vg. No one will ever look for it here.

Thoughts on Absa so far? I like her but, damn some of her moves are way too slow

>>1837477
I havent played yet because this update doesnt seem to work on linux and im too lazy to do my own fix but ive seen a bunch of combos that all boiled down to spamming upair and downair over and over until the opponent was at a high enough percent to die to a backair. i know its only day 2 but i get the feeling there isnt much to this character.

>>1837477
she's fun, but she is making my fingers bleed with all the movement required.

>>1836875
>/vm/ is extremely slow and no one will ever look for the thread here
>/vg/ is too fast because gacha "games" have taken over the board despite having a dedicated containment board, so /roag/ will likely die there. To really drive this post home, let me list the highest post-per-minute generals alive on /vg/ now until I get to a real video game general. Gacha games are in greentext:
>1.) Uma Musume
2.) FFXIV
>3.) Honkai Star Rail
>4.) Genshin Impact
5.) Undertale and Deltarune
>6.) Wuthering Waves
7.) FFXIV (again)
>8.) Honkai Star Rail (again)
>9.) Shadowverse
>10.) Blue Archive
>11.) Uma Musume (again)
>12.) Limbus Company
13.) FFXIV (again [again])
14.) Undertale and Deltarune (again)
15.) Sonic the Hedgehog general (not an actual video game general, doesn't discuss the games)
>16.) 1999
>17.) Honkai Stair Rail (again [again])
>18.) Nikke
>19.) Shadowverse (again)
>20.) Limbus Company (again)
>21.) Genshin Impact (again)
>22.) Wuthering Waves (again)
>23.) Girls' Frontline
>24.) Nikke (again)
>25.) Congratulations to our winning general, Elden Ring and Nightreign General!

Third world gacha game players are the biggest blight on this site. /vt/umors are only second to them because they actually stay in their containment board.

>>1836875
>/vm/ is extremely slow and no one will ever look for the thread here
>/vg/ is too fast because gacha "games" have taken over the board despite having a dedicated containment board, so /roag/ will likely die there.
To really drive this post home, let me list the highest post-per-minute generals alive on /vg/ now until I get to a real video game general that isn't just people jerking off over fictional characters. Gacha games are in greentext:
>1.) Uma Musume
2.) FFXIV
>3.) Honkai Star Rail
>4.) Genshin Impact
5.) Undertale and Deltarune
>6.) Wuthering Waves
7.) FFXIV (again)
>8.) Honkai Star Rail (again)
>9.) Shadowverse
>10.) Blue Archive
>11.) Uma Musume (again)
>12.) Limbus Company
13.) FFXIV (again [again])
14.) Undertale and Deltarune (again)
15.) Sonic the Hedgehog general (not an actual video game general, doesn't discuss the games)
>16.) 1999
>17.) Honkai Stair Rail (again [again])
>18.) Nikke
>19.) Shadowverse (again)
>20.) Limbus Company (again)
>21.) Genshin Impact (again)
>22.) Wuthering Waves (again)
>23.) Girls' Frontline
>24.) Nikke (again)
25.) Congratulations to our winning general, Elden Ring and Nightreign General!
Third world gacha game players are the biggest blight on this site. /vt/umors are only second to them because they actually stay in their containment board.

>>1837477
Always liked Ness, Lucas, Mewtwo so I am really liking her.
I don't like the Zelda sweetspots but I've been spamming and hitting cloud with them so it's actually not so bad.

>>1837477
I think she is ok

>>1838079
>total time 53 minutes
wtf

[Good News] PirateSoftware Quits Offbrand Games

>>1838205
Well when he's trying to platform tech chase with an attack that only covers 1/3rd of the platform, it's no wonder

https://x.com/kusumikins/status/1940869372811341834
>throw opponent off stage
>backair backair backair
Waaaoooww very interesting character

>>1838251
>A character is using a kill option
Explain to me whats wrong in these? If this was december the opponents would survive

>>1838205
yea, It took a while to complete the arcade mode as absa
still, not as bad as the wrastor one

>>1838265
It's too simplistic

>>1838313
Hate the player, not the game

>>1838313
I want to see up special used more to chase someone off stage, but it too will end in a
>aerial spike

>>1838342
It is literally the games fault. If the simple option works there's no reason to ever do anything else

>>1838475
There are multiple reasons to do "anything else", but the most important is not being a boring faggot who's entire gameplan is pressing good normals over and over.

>>1839057
If the other player do not adapt, play to win and abuse the shit out of that good normal

>>1837477
She fun! bought the game 3 days before she released and didn't knew about her, she literally have everything I could ask for in terms of tools
Other Absas online mostly seem to try to abuse her uair, but for some reason I don't and mostly want to abuse her up-b into fair/nair (with cloud setplay overuse of course)

>>1839095
Her uair seems like a lame move. Good, but lame.

why the fuck are shields so OP in this game?
>no shield poking
>has tons of health and regen so it will never break
>nearly everything is safe on shield
i'm honestly sick of this shit. why couldn't they do shields like combo devils or rushrev instead?

why the fuck are shields so OP in this game?
>no shield poking
>has tons of health and regen so it will never break
>nearly everything is minus on shield
i'm honestly sick of this shit. why couldn't they do shields like combo devils or rushrev instead?

>>1839282
>why is the game not like /my game/

>>1839291
"My game" in this instance being Rivals 1

>>1839282
>nearly everything is minus on shield
air to ground and most specials definitely aren't, depending on distance if you hit someone from their back while they shield is also virtually plus

>>1839309
At its core, they're the same game. RoA2 just happens to have a few new added mechanics

>Come back after a break for Absa
>Can't even constantly beat bots now

fuck
At least Absa porn is free

>>1839730
Feelsbad being a casual enjoyer.
Hardly ever find FFAs so I just play against bots.

what do you do against floorhugging or crouch cancels? I feel like half the time I get hit is when people spam it

>>1839986
What's your character?

>>1839992
absa

>>1839993
lol ur fuked
aerial poking, not falling for ftilt2 meme, djc dair, baby/wave dash grabs

>>1840009
>not falling for ftilt2 meme
well if the first part of the ftilt touches then it's better to delay into a second ftilt or go into an aerial; but ftilt1 loses to fh downtilt in training (because I assume people spamming fh are mashing down + either tilt or strong)
>djc dair
why not djc nair then? dair have poor horizontal range

>>1839730
I got put into the bottom of Gold after previously being Platinum when I came back for the Olympia update. I don't know if they changed the ranking system or people leveled up, but it felt fucking brutal at first. I'm Diamond now. It's especially bad this time because the Absa update reset everyone's ranks, so returning players were wading through a knee-deep morass of unranked players who were actually 1100+.

>>1839986
Grab, abuse moves that spike, meteor, or multi-hit, learn your moves tumble %s, projectiles, force them to approach so you can anti-air them or catch them while they're not holding down. I imagine DJC sweet spot aerials basically tumble at 0% for Absa. And you have nair.

>Absa's Ftilt2 counts as a melee hit for trading Fleet's bomb
lolz

>>1840772
also means she gets fucked in the ass the moment you parry it.

funny bit

>>1841535
you can stop kragg from rolling??

Cake is so fucking good when he locks in. Every time I watch him play I'm like
>damn I need to learn Forsburn
Also lmao @ him flipping off Marlon

>>1841755
gigabased

>>1841535
>>1841692
Classic

cakewinslol
At least I like watching him play. Can't believe Sparg0 threw away the set by not doing roll from ledge.

how do i play etalus, i cant win a game

Rivals players of 2027 be like
>I miss when floorhugging was good!
>This game just wasn't the same after PirateSoftware left.
>These new characters are a ploy to sell more plushies

>>1842059
Watch Animal vods https://www.youtube.com/@AnimalROA2

>>1842079
thanks i was looking for someone to watch but dont know any of the good players
do you have any good player vod channels for kragg?

>>1842090
Just look up Zeebee's, Ion's, and CheesPotato's tranny warning tournaments sets. Ion plays Olympia now, I believe.

>>1841755
Why did he do it bros

>>1839282
Shield health and regen are even slower in this game than standard Smash games. It's really just the lack of poking that makes it seem better than it is.

>>1842125
Because hecking trannies are heckin valid and cake&co hates niggers.

>>1842482
>see shield is low
>oh i should go in and finish the job
>get hit because i go in
>their shield has now regenerated from hitting me
it feels like trying to kill a fly and tripping on your shoelaces

Greatest set of all time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5oRjSHlq5k

>>1843688
What an absolute clownshow. Zeebee ended up adapting really well though.

Does anyone else feel like this is the only fighting game you're good at? Idk why but every other game i feel like im following some kind of a flowchart but this game feels like every option you have is so universal

>>1845003
No because i'm bad lmao
It really depends how much time you spend in each game you played and how much skill transfers between them, i doubt you have no flowcharts in this too

>>1845003
That's because this game is for unskilled players

>>1845003
More lenient execution checks mean that it's easier to translates your thoughts into actions. As someone who says
>I was trying to...
more than anything else while playing other fighting games (mostly Melee, SF6, and 3S), Rivals feels like it's made for me. I don't need to lab anything execution-based except esoteric character-specific tech, and when I do lab things it's typically knowledge (punishes, hitboxes, DI, floorhug break %s, etc.), not execution.

Or to put it a different way, 2D is classical, Melee is jazz, and Rivals is jazz for retards.

>>1845209
>Rivals is jazz for retards.
Or maybe its jazz on rails because I dont want to spend 100 hours labbing all the tech execution and selling my hands to arthritis

>>1845466
>he believes over exaggerated stereotypes to be fact
based retard

mystery nigga

>>1846394
Dog.

>>1846394
But most likely: fire character, maybe Artemis?

>>1846394
Sylvanos or Hodan

>>1846632
Give me this nigga

zetterburn player is dipping out of evo over floorhugging

>>1847875
>ultimate
>has expression
Nigger is just buttmad cause he cant shine pressure for free.

>>1847873
>>1847875

>>1847873
>zetterburn player is dropping out
Oh no, whatever will we do?

>>1847875
>Ultimate
>expression
Jesus Christ. In all seriousness, there are a lot of things to criticize RoA2 for and not knowing what the fuck to do with floorhugging is one of those, but he couldn't have picked a worse example.

I can't wait until the developers finally fucking give up on floorhugging and Olympia actually feels fun to play again. What's the point of "shield" pressure if no one even bothers shielding and just holds down instead? For fuck's sake, Olympia's jab 1 doesn't even combo into jab 2 when everyone's holding down. Or anything else for that matter.

If you don't play like you have a death wish, get off of casual

>>1848649
Floorhugging is fun therefore it should stay.

>>1848649
>rivals devs admitting they're wrong about anything
Yeah don't hold your breath on that one

This game really is lacking a high concept character. like a true unintuitive weirdo oddball.

Clean reversal

>>1851618
I feel like there are multiple characters whose mechanics have a lot of unrealized depth and who are played more simply than they could potential be played.
>Forsburn
Prime example. Most players barely use smoke, clone, or his actionable teleport. I've seen literally two people use his special pummel as a free follow-up actionable teleport in hundreds of hours. Rarely do you ever counter anyone who does all of these things in combination. 90% of people play him purely as a disjoint character.
>Olympia
The gem lets you do a lot of Insane shit and almost all Olympia players just... don't do it. No one uses it to go deep off-stage. No one uses it as an air-to-air combo extender or kill confirm. No one uses the dunk. Although to be fair, the dunk fucking sucks even if you have a hard read. I didn't see one other Olympia player do WebM-related until Ion did it in tournament last month. FADC is also underutilized.
>Kragg
Needs no explanation.

The thing is that all of these characters also double as braindead, low skill floor characters even though you can play them weird as hell. I don't know if that's a good thing or not.

>>1851952
Yeah, no, I mean a truly unorthodox character with a radically different gameplan, like Zappa or (Xrd) Jacko.

>>1851955
I don't expect that for at least a year. Characters like that are just inherently a risk from a development perspective because they'll turn off so many players.

This game fucking sucks

>>1851960
They're an extinct species in this super "accessible" (casual) era of fightan games. Rivals 1 didn't even have any. Hell, Melee doesn't even have any, but that game was a fluke.

>>1852835
Go on

>come back from a break
>do ranked placement
>get gapped by like 10 different players

I think I may be shit at this game anons

I've played enough of 1.2 and 1.3 to decide that I just fucking hate floorhugging and don't think it enriches the game in any way. They need to rip the band-aid off. Nerf floorhugging so it only works at low %s WITH the knockback reduction from crouch-canceling. Floorhugging should simply stop being an option against even the weakest options at around 60%. It's like the inverse of Ultimate, where at high %s stocks devolve into both players throwing out safe, auto-cancel aerials to fish for stray hits. At low %s, you're forced to fish for options that beat floorhug because anything else just gets beaten by... holding down.

At the very least, they need to make it so you can only ASDI down in certain states.

>>1853245
Same shit happened to me. I was 1350 on patch 1.2, and my placement matches put me at 1000. Unranked is still full of formerly platinum and above players doing their placement matches.

i fucking hate clairen players and i will always do everything in my power to make them as miserable as possible

>>1854924
Youre doin good work out there anon keep it up.

bug reveal at evo?

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2217000/view/535480083734860285
Absa:
>wavedash buffed
>dash attack range buffed
>utilt recovery reduced, late hit uair knockback increased
>nair knockback angle buffed
Misc.
>new epic Forsburn skin
>intermediate tutorials, fucking finally
>some palettes

>Forsburn gets his 11th skin
>Olympia has 7
>Etalus has 6 (actually only 5 because you can't buy his Retro skin because... you just can't, okay?)
>Absa has 4
This sucks man. Especially for how gay looking those skins are. (DUDE what if Olympia was a chef? haHAA. What if Olympia was a Construction Worker?! haHAA)

>>1856316
found the salty ranno player

>>1856316
erm excuse me the stupid digger olympia skin is a reference to dungeons

>>1856331
He has 12 skins you retard

olympia need some buffs

>>1856335
Why couldn't we get a cool robed Olympia skin rather than the dumb PPE outfit?

>>1856337
Careful, you'll piss off the Redditors who seethe every time she's on-stream at a tournament.

>2-stock someone 300 mmr higher than me in a ditto
>they quit
nitroglycerin mental

>>1857829
Why he so sticky

>pull off the most satisfying string of all time
>game just... doesn't save replay
dope

>>1858501
ever considered using a program for background recording?

>>1858501
ever considered hitting the combo every time?

Who's the #1 Absa player in 2 that I should watch vods of?

>>1859575
If Penguin came back, Penguin. If not, I have no idea.

>sandbag
>lose
how could this possibly have happened

>run it down against some gold guy while playing a secondary
>he taunts
>carve a swathe of blood through ranked looking for him again
>finally find him
>play my main this time
>SD every stock because i'm a retard
>he taunts
fug

>>1859575
Play the game instead

>>1860043
Such is the life of an honest character like maypul.

>>1860247
oh shut the fuck up. you CAN learn from watching top players and there's nothing wrong with learning this way

>>1860272
Dont care about "improving" that shit is for speedrunning trannies and smelly compfags.

>>1860312
>getting better at something is for trannies
are you mentally well, anon?

>>1839553
*a few added mechanics that totally ruin the GODLIKE neutral of RoA1

>>1860312
>crying about compfags in a general for a game designed specifically for compfags
You're not very bright, are you?

Interesting.

>>1837886
16 days late to this reply, but I fucking despise this about /vg/ so much it's likely what I hate most about the site even when I consider just how much it's gone down the gutter in recent years.

It'd improve the board so much if the gatcha threads got forced to /vmg/, give exposure to lesser known generals and make way for new ones.

My sympathies from /indie/ (please God come chat with us about meme-games when you're not chatting here and help us fight against the gatcha hordes)

>>1860545
Don't even think about shitting this thread up.

>>1860551
your post made me check if /vmg/ allows generals, and in fact, it does
there's no reason for so many gacha generals to be on /vg/

>>1860589
Myes, but gachafags will never abandon their "prestige" status and accept containment.

>>1860738
It's not about what the gatchafags think but about what Hiroshima Nagasaki does, and I don't even think he pays much attention to this site but instead leaves it to the jannies

>>1860738
It's strange to imagine the people at a fledgling /vg/ general (one that requires attentive bumping to survive) choosing that life of bumping rather than going to a comfy slower board.

>>1860818
Yeah, I just can't be assed to babysit a video game thread on a board full of gacha game generals. It's not worth my time.

>>1860312
Sakurai's direction has been an unmitigated disaster for casuals' mental

>wonder why my shorthops are so inconsistent
>check (out of game) controller's profile config
>switch from hair triggers to normal triggers
>suddenly my shorthops are consistent
>instant win streak
haha this whole time I was handicapping myself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSxqZUlY4r8
i don't know why i like watching Etalus MUs so much but i do

>>1860324
>>getting better at something is for trannies
Getting better at a skillset as worthless as fighting games sure as hell is. Doesnt make the games not fun, but only a manchild would ever prioritize improvement at something so trivial.

>>1861675
God forbid anyone do anything recreational

>>1861709
Taking recreation as "self improvement" is where it becomes mental sickness.

>>1861714
I wasn't aware that athletes, artists, writers, dancers, , musicians, aesthetes, and every other manner of hobbyist or aspiring professional was mentally ill for daring to do something other than looking down on others. Thanks for educating me.

>>1861714
What

>>1861718
>comparing video games to a skilled profession

>>1861812
Hitting a ball with a stick is less than 200 years old and people get paid millions of dollars to do it well, professionally.

>>1832603 (OP)
Take your damm shorts off

>if you're better than me you must be a tranny! cope and seethe, i've drawn myself as the gigachad
It's wild to me that this site went from absolutely fucking despising casuals in the 00s to people priding themselves on being casuals who have no interest in video games.

>>1861959
one of these two should work
https://gamebanana.com/mods/606749
https://gamebanana.com/mods/604896

>>1861959
just watch porn

>playing secondaries on ranked
>encounter an """unranked""" diamond player sweating his balls off
>kicks my ass, JV2
>switch to my main
>kick his ass, JV2
>waits out the results screen
>swaps character
>swaps character
>swaps character
>swaps character
>likely trying to trick me into switching characters
>pretend to switch
>he picked the same damn character, rinse and repeat
i wish new fighting games actually allowed you to talk to other players. so many of these interactions are like dogs barking at each other purely because you put a fence between them. this was probably nothing but it felt devious.

>>1862511
As boring as touching grass

>>1862912
nothing shown in this image draws in furries.

>>1863263
Furries are crazy about paws.

random bems

>ranno clips
yawn my dead grandmother could do that

>>1863546
hey that's great

August event was hidden in some Offbrand Games sizzle reel: mecha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dlRHJ9_rI4
Looks like I'm buying a fucking bundle. These bastards.

>>1863546
Whats her elo?

>>1863622
Finally a good event

>>1863622
What a shit event

https://www.change.org/p/tell-mastercard-visa-activist-groups-stop-controlling-what-we-can-watch-read-or-play
Sign this so the credit card mafia doesn't force any furry girls in shorts again.

>>1863810
What shit taste. I'm excited for mecha skins for characters I actually want to play.

[serious post] How do you fight Maypul?
>pancakes every possible approach
>dash attack is the everything button and party starter
>her tech chases are guaranteed due to her speed
>absurdly brief recovery on every whiff
>impossible to zone due to her speed and pancakes (any projectile -> she floorhugs it -> she dash attacks you)
>massive disjoints that lead into any DI mixup she pleases
>manage to hit her? well you get no conversion because she has the skinniest hurtbox in the game
Genuinely I just want workable advice that isn't generic non-advice like "uhhh floorhug everything and grab her" and "parry everything" or "sit in shield then she'll just dash attack you and you can punish :)"

>>1865222
Idk what level you're but some notes from forever plat maypulshitter:
Try baiting out dash attacks or floorhugging the first hit.
Di out nairs and dtilts, makes it hard to follow up, except when you're marked and I can follow with another nair to push you off side.
DI up any up airs to stop the juggle, especially for potential tether->upair
Parry the plant
The recovery is quite predictable and once the doublejump is spent it might as well be over.
Its hard to really poke shield as maypul, On shield nair is not safe at all. I struggle vs clairen's and wrastors bair
There's other stuff thats MU dependent but mostly its aerial moves that beat her tiny hitbox ones.

>>1863622
>Mecha Kragg

Oh hell yeah. Hoping for an Oly skin, too.

>>1865417
Sorry, you're getting bus driver Olympia and you're going to like it

>>1865222
I always recall something Ant said in his Ranno guide: don't chase Maypul in neutral. Maypul's speed is a resource, and expending or restricting your own resources to try to catch her is what she wants. It's no different than Etalus forcing you to burn a defensive resource off-stage by summoning icicles. Despite her speed, Maypul lacks good approaching options: early hit nair, which is only active for 2 frames, is her only aerial that's -2 on shield, while everything else is -5 (late hit nair) or -6. Eventually the Maypul player won't be able to resist throwing out that stupid fucking dash attack
By playing patiently and forcing her to use riskier options to get in against you, you're refusing to play into Maypul's bait-and-punish playstyle. I'm not saying to play passively; patient is not passive. You want to play patiently for stage control: slowly box Maypul into the corner, restricting her movement and neutral options, and then try to catch her when she tries to get out of the corner. Ideally you want to catch her out of her double jump, which can kill depending on whether she has seed active.

Maypul is one of those characters who forces you to stop playing your game and project yourself into the other player's head. Like, you say
>dash attack is the everything button and party starter
>absurdly brief recovery on every whiff
>massive disjoints that lead into any DI mixup she pleases
So what is the Maypul player going to want to do? They're going to want to press dash attack, ftilt, and utilt, and this is what 90% of them do. You can beat a lot of Maypul players by doing nothing but anticipating and conditioning these three options. Dash attack can be punished by anything. ftilt and utilt can be parried. utilt can be baited out and punished with an aerial if they don't adapt and uair instead.
>her tech chases are guaranteed due to her speed
I hate this bullshit and have no advice.

i just can't shorthop with any consistency. should i bite the bullet and the shorthop macro? feels fucking absurd putting on training wheels in a game that's already for babies with its 200 frame input buffer

A tiny platform is a death sentence, it's a platform and it's tiny
(Except I fucked up)

>>1865647
nothing to feel ashamed of. go for it

>>1865647
i find it more ergonomic to have short hop on shoulder button.

>taunt someone on ranked
>switch to casual because i'm a pussy and scared i'll match with them again

https://www.reddit.com/r/RivalsOfAether/comments/1m6nkji/badger_co_is_officially_on_the_world_wide_web_and/
Linking to Reddit because it's the original post. What could it mean?

>>1866299
possibly related to lovers of aether since that is the only timeline we've seen computers in this universe. also the website in the image does not exist.

>>1866322
The cipher in the bottom says
>PRIMORDIAL RAGE BORN OF CATACLYSMIC DEVASTATION
I know very little about RoA's lore, but doesn't this description fit Sylvanos? Coincidentally, his stage has a similar layout to the test stage that was hidden in the Absa patch notes. I want La Reina already, but I guess we're getting a Sylvanos trailer at Evo.

>>1866340
Nooo, I wanted another newcomer. We've only gotten two (Lox & Fleet)!! Some sequel this is. I prefer the Street Fighter 6 approach. Base roster had 18 characters and 6 of them were newcomers. Dan estimated that new characters take between 1.2x-1.5x the time of returning characters, but still. Well, better Sylvanos than Elliana or Hodan. He's easily the coolest looking character they ever made. If we're lucky, it's another fakeout.

ausfag looking for other ausfags to play roa2/melee, im not amazing but not dreadful

>>1866340
I don't think it's related to the next character, the previous three did not have hints before their release (with the exception of an accidental leak on Etalus case)

>>1866453
Why are all multiplayer games dead in aus? No matter what game I've played in the past 16 years aus players have always had a hard time finding other players in all of those games

>>1866677
don't you guys share servers with east asia? tons of people in those countries

>>1866677
low playerbase in general so more niche games struggle hard
>>1866678
nah oce servers are a thing

I really like how the emphasis on accessibility lets even an old man like me have a punish game. I couldn't do a lot of what I wanted to do in Melee and PM because of the execution barrier, but here it's just a matter of how fast I think.

>watch #1 etalus fight #1 absa
>the etalus never once goes for ice armor
>the absa never once uses down special

>>1868387
A lot of top players just don't use the characters entire kits. Ion is the only Olympia who consistently uses gem for extending edgeguards, and even then I've only seen him do the gem dash into dair / fair on direct hit. Even Cake doesn't use Forsburn's actionable teleport that much. I assume they think it isn't worth it, but it's part of the fun of playing each character.

>>1868408
i just wonder if I overthink the gimmicks when I would be better off executing perfectly spaced fairs 24/7

>>1868437
I think gimmicks are easier to counter than fundamentals, but not necessarily worse. I feel like great players are much more consistent at not only avoiding gimmicks, but directly countering them as well. A good player knows to FH or DI out Olympia's gem. A better player will either parry, FH and counter, or preemptively intercept the gem with a disjointed normal. The risk:reward is work volatile against a better player, you're risking giving your opponent 3s of invulnerability or a reversal, and you're also less likely to get a conversion off of gem.

That said, there are gimmicks you should always be using. Every one of Kragg's specials. Olympia's FADC. Forsburn's smoke. Most characters' gimmicks are so versatile that I feel like it's easier to overwhelm people with mix-ups than it is to play perfect neutral with normals.

>>1868454
>work volatile
more volatile*
smoking crack

anyone watch the dev stream today? i missed it. it looks like it's just dan talking about going 0-2 at locals.

>watching someone stream ranked
>dan jumpscare
it's honestly sick that dan actively plays his own game. it would be like catching Harada online.

>>1869611
I cought the end of it but basically:
>please attend out tournaments
>Tournaments are hard because of hardware requirements. one of the focus is to improve running the game on lower end machines (especially steamdeck)
>sylvanos and mollo plushies added in background, basically confirmed at least a character reveal at EVO
>stage skins are slow because we only have 1 environment artist
>Dan is happy

>>1870020
During what little I watched, I did notice that Dan said that they were testing characters, plural, in the developer build. I think Sylvanos is very likely the next character based on >>1866340, but in a perfect world La Reina (or anyone new) is also coming sooner rather than later.
>Dan is happy
:)
>Please attend our tournaments
I almost considered entering Evo since it's just like a 5 hour drive to Vegas, but then I saw that the 3-day pass is $200 fucking dollars. Fuck off, Sony.

>>1870020
I'll be a little annoyed if they reveal DLC 4 already. I don't like waiting two months between reveal and release. I used to play Rushdown Revolt and they were showing off their stance switch character Reina (no reLation) like a full year before she came out. Then for their next character Torment they showed him about two weeks before he was playable. I much preferred the latter!

>>1869611
There's a summary here https://www.reddit.com/r/RivalsOfAether/comments/1m8d1y7/rivals_dev_stream_7242025_notes/

watching winners semis of some online tournament and it's crazy to me how some olympia players just completely ignore gem

>>1870096
>I'll be a little annoyed if they reveal DLC 4 already.
Yes but you cant miss that evo reveal opportunity

>>1866453
bros pls

I love my wife so much! I want to touch her chest fluff so baaaad.

This guy was good enough to easily make it back from this but he panicked

>Good morning, Badger Co. fans! Thanks so much for the warm welcome - we're so thrilled to be sharing our latest and greatest accomplishments with you all!

>Here's another look at our official website refresh - thanks for the beautiful testimonial, Greta!

>>1870607
bro is attracted to animals

>>1871615
She is an animal in bed

>>1871615
you aren't?

>1.0 orcane
>does nothing but hide behind puddle and spam bubbles
>1.3 orcane
>does nothing but hold down, mash dtilt, and CC / FH to 120
very cool character

>>1872124
lmao this reply
>The Japanese WWII Soldier Who Refused to Surrender for 27 Years

Anyone else use tap jump? It's always felt more natural to me and frees up my right thumb, but I feel like it might be holding me back in some situations. I main Clairen if that matters.

>>1872288
tap jump helps with oos stuff but otherwise its really hard to be precise with dash dance shffl'ing and the likes with tap jump

>>1872124
>commission skin, but making it public
king shit

people who don't play out the set on casual make me sick

cursed

>>1874349
>the spirit of Hitler
not the first time I see a RoA character being compared to Hitler

Who y'all got?

>>1874481
Pulp wins
Marlon takes 2nd over cake

>>1874781
>Marlon over Cake

>>1875905
>it took him 6 months to finally score a win over him
kek

>>1874481
I'm going with the guy already familiar with playing on the big stage (plup)

>>1874481
Plup.
I wonder if he's still planning on playing Maypul. I got ass-raped by his Orcane, and it was enough to make me question the character's balance.

Has anyone been having issues with the GCN controller or adapter (official or Mayflash) since the Absa patch? For whatever reason my R button is "sticky" and slow to release, and it's not a physical defect of the controller (I hope).
>queue for casual
>Zetterburn with a 17 win-streak
>get a good reversal on the final stock and win despite my fucking R button repeatedly fucking buffering shield out of wavedash and waveland
>"I forgot to set my controls"
>switches to my character
>teabags
>loses
>spams "I'm bored"
>mfw my shit isn't even fucking working so it didn't feel satisfying
What the fuck is wrong with some of the people playing this game, lmao

>>1876276
>2025
>using a gcn controller

>>1876276
on the patchnotes of that patch, they did mention adding fixes for the gcn controller
try looking for it

>>1876276
I've had issues with the gamecube controller on mayflash since before the game released. My cries on nolt have been ignored the entire time

>>1876708
In my case, it was working perfectly fine up until the Absa patch. Now I have to plug it in while holding down R, but the downside is that only full R presses count. It makes it tough to tech.

>>1874481
as much as I want a marlon upset or a cake blowout, I know plup will just cheese it out

ANNOUNCE THE MECHA EVENT ALREADY YOU FUCKING COWARDS

I WANT TO KNOW WHAT I'LL BE BLOWING MY MONEY ON

blessed devs

>>1878557
I thought that costume had painted hooves, but they're actually nail covers?! They protrude from her hoofs.

>>1878703
Yes

>>1878557
nice

absa is objectively the hardest character to play. and what's with her ledge special? it's completely useless since the cloud stops moving when you try to do anything with it

Any reveal predictions? I'm not sure if they'll add another fire character until the other elements are caught up, but if they do, I suspect Artemis.

>>1878960
no way artemis is getting in before mollo

>>1878960
I hope its Slade and they give him the stance gimmick that they planned out (but then scrapped) for Clairen.

Woah! Maypul!

https://x.com/RivalsOfAether/status/1949887766059458852
soon™

>queue ranked
>etalus player who teabags between every stock
>win the set
>too stressful for me, i'll queue casual
>queue casual
>maypul player who is MASHING ready before i can even move my cursor on the CSS
>they mash on the results screen
>they mash on the CSS again
>win the set
>leave after waiting out them mashing on the CSS for the entire time limit
can i get a fucking break from these freaks?

>>1880813
i just play with people i know on discord right now

i'd be down to play with people here if any lobbies ever get going

why are air characters so rare online? i played a dozen sets today and only found one air character, an absa who switched to kragg after losing game one.

>>1881223
fleet sucks, wrastor and absa are hard to play

Some reveal at 1pm friday at https://www.youtube.com/@evoevents
They usually drop character trailers before Grand Finals so I presume this will be for the mecha event.

>>1881246
Why are people averse to playing characters that require more skill?

>>1881417
>"We're here to announce that we'll be reverting Olympia's nerfs before EVO. We went a bit overboard the past few patches."

>>1881598
I still think she's good, but Jorg is right about her being inconsistent as fuck. She finally won a tournament, but it was that European one.

Speaking of consistency, I need Dan to get on his hands and knees and apologize for LYING about being able to DI out of ustrong after Zetteburn uthrow. Motherfucker, it's still true on Olympia like 90% of the time.

>>1881417
>wer're revealing something pretty cool imo
Sounds like it will be mildly interesting at best

>>1881223
>Fleet
Relatively common in my experience, but she gets mercilessly abused by common characters because she has balanced frame data.
>Wrastor
Esoteric and has been reworked two times, although I don't think he's especially difficult to play once you learn how he works.
>Absa
Difficult to play.

>>1881462
>mfw
Everyone involved in this is a fucking retard, but terminally online Discord trannies are especially fucking retarded. I was going to attach an image from this thing, but it was so wretched that I deleted it instead.

>>1881417
>something pretty cool imo
It's either the mecha event trailer or something related to the "vitanima" ARG. I like the idea that it's a form of singleplayer or co-op content, but we'll see.

>FADC slightly too late
>robbed of the sickest shit of all time

>>1880978
Same on both.

>>1880978
>>1881940
well, the purpose of /vm/ is to get anons to play games together

>>1881762
I mean, when asked about the strongest character, most top players still list her in the top 3-4 range.
She's great, but I personally don't see any reason to play her when Zetter exists.

>>1881945
except if youre aus...

>>1881940
i will try to get something going this weekend then

my friend code for steam is 88296806

>>1882381
i have played with people from all over, i'm not a gigasweat so i'm at least down to try it

>>1882426
sent :^)

Why does Zetterburn have better projectile than all the so-called "zoners" in terms of startup, recovery, damage, the immediate combo potential, and the character-gimmick synergy? I played some Fleet today for the first time in a while and it dawned on me that at the end of the day her bomb is just a worse version of Zetter's burn status. And forget about Absa, his fireball shuts down everything she has. And when you consider how strong he is in disadvantage and on shield, as well as his speed, he is objectively a better zoner than both of them.

I honestly don't get it.
>inb4 hurr he's popular so he has to be OP
Yes but spacies aren't good zoners so why does he get this tool as well??

>>1874481
Me?
Spargo

>>1882622
Because his fireball is extremely predictable. It can only cover one angle, whereas Fleet can threaten 6+ angles at any given moment with delayed, layered projectiles. Zetterburn's fireball, Maypul's seed, Wrastor's tornado, and technically Etalus' icicles are the only projectiles that are limited to one angle, and Zetterburn's and Etalus' are the slowest. It really isn't that good, especially against players who know how to parry; because it's so predictable and slow, you can consistently call it out with parry. Even if it doesn't directly lead to a conversion, it's still 3 seconds of invincibility to do whatever you want. This WebM is pre-buff, but the principle still applies.

But I'm also not a fan of people who play Zetterburn like a zoner. What a fucking lame way to play.

>>1882800
>just parry lol
C'mon man

>>1882854
Yeah? its a 3 frame move that completely shuts down the projectile.

>>1882854
I mean, yeah. Or shield. The first thing I do in any Zetterburn match is identify what their habits are with regards to fireball, shield pressure, and double jump. It doesn't stop being a good option just because you say that.

>>1863622
A little on the nose, Dan...
Also it's at Top 8 on Saturday, not at the panel tomorrow. Although there's apparently other announcements at the panel.

>I0n's ordered tierlist

Thoughts?

>>1883360
>Zetterburn between Etalus and Absa
Engagement bait. I agree with the bookends, though.

>>1883479
based
i can't wait for people to queue casual because "ranked is scary" and get their shit pushed in. i will be playing secondaries in casual and sandbagging for new players.

>>1883479
If roa2 went perma f2p would it have a higher consistent player count?

>>1883715
Yeah, obviously?

anybody looking to play atm?

>get tiled
>start playing like shit
>keep playing
lol

>>1883819
>go on a losing streak
>eventually rage out and quit
>play the next day
>go on win streak because you deranked the previous day
sasuga...

reminder that there's some stuff at the evo panel tomorrow at 1pm pst.
i don't know what the fuck it is, but the messaging on twitter has been so confusing that i feel compelled to watch it so i don't miss anything significant.

>>1884333
Dollars to donuts it's next month's event trailer. I'm more interested in what the subject of the panel itself is. I think I'll catch it live.

>another heavy
yawn

>another heavy
fuck yeah

I sincerely hope this character gets raped by pressure because he looks fucking disgustingly oppressive in advantage
>Kragg 2
This is evil

>>1885962
>2026 is going to feature out first item character
So... Mollo?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ4u4C3cReI
my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

>>1885962
>console launch delayed
based

>>1885966
i think theyre just adding items

>>1886031
Greentext was a quote, they confirmed an item character

>>1885985
>heavy
good
>set play
good
>loses his gimmick if he gets hit
good
>terrible recovery without his gimmick
good
>but if he hits you he can set up a rube goldberg rape contraption that spans the entire stage
i'm sure this will be fine and won't cause any frustration or grievances whatsoever

>>1886031
They said they might as well add items because they have to make the proper animations for the item character anyway.

what channel will rivals 2 be on?

>>1886231
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIgYvUlsgAI

What do (You) think the character silhouettes are? I think it's
>Elliana
>La Reina
>placeholder (Olympia)
>placeholder (Galvan)
Really just the first two

>>1886317
we already learned in Olympia's reveal that the silhouettes don't mean shit

>>1886322
Absa's and Galvan's were close to their final art

>>1885985
Moveset wise, he looks fine. Design wise, he looks stupid. I don't know how to feel

>>1886398
Hopefully they touch up his design. What I'd like to see is
>more muted greens for his default palette
>some additional detail on his metallic components when he's rusted
You can see that there's some sort of specular texture or something on the metal when he's not rusted, but when he's rusted it looks too clean and smooth.

>>1886423
Who tf is recupid?

Interesting bit from the Q&A:
P2P is comming with the workshop as the games wont be hosted on playfab.

>>1886317
Astra. My workshop never ever.

>>1886456
This was mentioned during the whole Stop Killing Games thing. Maybe Ausfag will finally be able to play with someone.

>>1886398
I'm not into Rival's lore, but couldn't this be a mole character that operates a mech, just like the snake one? Would fit into theme and look better

>>1886485
fingers crossed anyway lol

idk if they guy from /v/ i was playing with is here, but ggs if so

Coming from Melee, I'm still getting down-b when I input side-b, and it results in an SD almost every match. This doesn't happen in Melee, and I've seen plenty with the same complaint. I think the input gate changes if you roll the stick from down to side, intending to make the down input more reliable, but instead having this effect. I have a lot of complaints about this game, but this seems like the easiest to fix.

>>1886607
ggs

>>1886317
Olympia 2

>>1887003
How can you improve upon perfection?

Thou shalt not pillar

Scrap

>>1882426
looking to start a lobby if there's any interest

>>1887614
do it

>>1887824
room is up!

f8cv8m

>queue ranked
>clairen
>queue casual
>clairen
>turn on evo
>first match is clairen vs. clairen

ggs want to watch stuff now tho.

good games anon, your maypul had some pretty sick conversions

thanks for joining me!

>plup went orcane
Alright, I think he wins Evo

plup is literally miles ahead of everyone else including marlon and cake. also i feel like at least 10-15 melee players could also be this ahead of the rest of the competition in rivals 2 if they took the game as serious as they do melee.

>>1888091
I feel like Melee players refuse to engage with the mechanics of the game, except Plup and Lucky. Mang0 and Cody were painful to watch at times. I also played with a PR ranked Melee player a lot on release and he'd always say that there "isn't any edgeguarding". While playing Kragg.

>>1888135
>I feel like Melee players refuse to engage with the mechanics of the game
that's what i mean when i say "if they took the game seriously". so many of them "tried" but they didn't really try. they just refuse to acknowledge the fact that they were playing rivals 2 and not melee, it was really strange. if they were to simply get over the fact that this game isn't melee and you aren't going to beat people playing this game as if it were melee a lot of them would've got really good, including mang0. it feels like they tried to prove a point and failed, the point being "look at me i can beat rivals players without actually learning the game"

>>1888183
I can't recall a single time I saw Mango parry

>>1888192
he never used any rivals tech, to him he was playing pm wolf

>>1888183
>simply get over the fact that this game isn't melee
I can do this with Rivals 1 because it's fun.
R2 would be better if it was Melee.

>>1888971
i agree but it's still dumb to pretend you're on melee while playing rivals 2

Me closing the muted 160p EVO tab the instant i get the last Twitch drop

the tranny's zetterburn is so boring. reminds me of cody's fox.

>>1889063
Kragg mirrors are so booring

>>1889106
fuck you

fucking insane patience from stango in that match

I am once again asking why people don't hit confirm gem dash offstage into fair / dair or contest Kragg's pillar as a fastfaller. Obviously he can destroy the pillar to fuck you over, but he's vulnerable for ~2 seconds when he summons it.

marlon is a mid level scrub.
>ledgedashes when no ones around
>doesnt ledgedash in crucial situations

>floorhugs your entire kit to 120%
>auto-spaces out of your range by spamming dtilt
>effortlessly tech chases you
>recovers to ledge for free
>watches you DI in uthrow bubbles for an hour while he carefully considers his follow-up
>kills you at 70% off utilt bair
>finally dies at 170%
how do you respond?

>>1889174
just use a move that breaks cc!

Anyone from yesterday’s vee thread for FFAs?

>>1889258
I'm down, personally I prefer teams though.

>>1889258
also interested

>>1889258
>>1889306
>>1889312
pz3xte
I'll leave it open for a few mins, maybe until top 8 starts.

>>1889319
We need one more for 4 players, anyone?

>>1889319
3/4

>>1889323
Im playing something else, otherwise I would join

>>1889319
i'll join if it's still open

>>1889326
Nothin' personal.

>60% of the match is repeating the same edgeguard sequence over and over again
awesome epic game, dan

Rat Gods win again!

yeah im thinking its a plup sweep

>heavy vs heavy
time to watch literally anything else

Fucking hell fullstream is so good.

>>1889390
This rat needs some correction.

>>1889388
>"Edgeguarding in Melee's too easy. I prefer Rivals' way." - Plup

>>1889424
is slenderman near him what the fuck?

>>1889424
prove plup said that

>>1889425
Liminal empty smash tournament.
Silence only broken by the sounds of CLACK CLACK CLACK CLACK

>>1889319
GGs! It was fun! thanks guys!

ggs, need to eat and watch top 8

>>1889436
>>1889450
GGs

>>1889319
good games boys
>me and ranno whiffing grab on each other in the corner like 10 times in a row

Wisely is a bit of a [plant-based protein] elemental but I honestly like his commentary

>>1889465
he looks like a older esam

>>1889465
faggot needs to lose weight and shave

>>1889465
slime is the best bald commentator bar none

>>1889465
He has absolutely zero charisma. He is not pleasant to listen to at all, ever.
He is fairly knowledgable about the game, to his credit, but he also has no idea when to insert what facts. You’ll have these amazing moments playing out and he’s saying “yeah, so floorhugging is when—“

>absolutely zero representation at Evo
It's over...

>>1889507
stinky frog

ebin set

wtf is marlon doing?

>>1889524
Sobbing?
I have no idea.

What the fuck happened.

>>1889530
I assume Marlon is bummed because people won't stop harassing him. Being in top 8 at Evo and knowing that people are calling you literally Hitler is probably pretty stressful.

>>1889533
Are they actually harassing him?

Marlon holding up the tournament?

Yall just hate ma boi Marlon cos of his color. das rite he should knock dat cracka Cake teeths out if he tries to pull anotha shit on stage on god

>>1889534
I don't use social media, but every time he's on stream you have some faggot in Twitch chat bitching about his presence. Competing is stressful by itself. Competing after an attempt to cancel you for cringe shit you did when you were a minor is probably much more stressful.

>>1889507
good. I don't want to see this guys bair ever again.

>>1889507
>steel chair
Soon™

>>1889553
lol

>>1889546
I believe it.
Weird how the same people eager to cancel someone for glancing in the direction of a 17 year 364 day old person will also happily dogpile someone for things they did at 15 years old.

FUCK

Such a beautiful return!

Don't get too mad, it's just rules of nature

>>1889568
Hot

It matters not. Two rats still remain.

Why are you doing this right before your set?

PLUPGODS

My wife is so good and beautiful.

>>1889592
i wish i could enjoy playing this fucking degenerate piece of shit character

>>1889592
Focus on commentating, Dan

Plup is so fucking good

Plup's about to win EVO without dropping a single game.

Plup is simply that guy.

>>1889583
>harassment (cake) has been inciting
Is there any truth to this?

plup is not "saucing" he's spamming ftilt

>>1889609
>>1889536
This kind of started the recent wave of drama.

>>1889609
>>1889536
however i try not to pay attention to this stupid shit as much as possible

>>1889610
I hope he’s saying “stab!” out loud every time.

>>1889583
Hope Marlon Cake loser's finals happens now

It's rats all the way down

>>1889626
Just how we like it.

A friendly reminder that gossip is evil.

rat gods, we rise
before the fall...

Well now he's just acting like a dick, thought the beef was with Cake.

>See thread posting about a player's drama
>Look back at stream
>Said player just got knocked out

Well I guess I don't really care any more. Hope things work out for him.

>>1889640
cake, stango and bbatts are in the same twitter group of people.

>>1889640
what are you talking about

Chat is getting mad that a common finishing move is used to finish a stock. It's quite funny.

>>1889640
It's all the same group.

>>1889650
What move?

>>1889654
Rat upb

>>1889662
I play Olympia and I think it's a bit bullshit how easily it's linked into out of these
>just one more bro
uairs. That said, people seethe about her way too fucking much. People who play her are right that she's super inconsistent and many players don't know how to deal with her.
>it killed again as i was typing this
lmao

Hope we get Game 10.

>>1889665
Harbor has the lowest blast ceiling in the game. People think it's bad for Oly because of the lack of walls to recover, but Up-B kills so early that it more than evens out.

>>1889665
From what I'm seeing, while everyone in the cast has their own bullshit, Olympia can really rush you down in a flash while overflowing the mental stack.

>>1889669
It's the "if everyone's OP, no one's OP" school of balance, which I personally like. Olympia has excellent shield pressure, but she's extremely light and a lot of her best moves are susceptible to floorhugging (ASDI down to cancel knockback): jab, dtilt, late bair. Her advantage is really oppressive, but it's balanced out by dying to a stiff breeze (or any of Ranno's lingering hitboxes). Overflowing people's mental stack can only do so much when holding down and spamming dtilt can counter what she wants to do, which is why I'm not surprised that Plup picked Orcane against her.

that's.... a wrap.

I think Plup's just on a whole different level at the moment. The rest of the playerbase still needs time to cook, it seems.

>>1889690
So goddamn cool how he just shows up and wins the biggest tournaments then disappears again.
He’s not even sponsored anymore, is he? He just showed up and won for the fun of it.

>>1889690
the rest of the players are simply amateurs and plup is the only good player here. this game is played exclusively by shitters. plup happens to enjoy a game only awful players play so he will always be rewarded an easy win at every tournament he goes to unless other actually good players want to pick up the game (they wont)

I kneel Plup CHADS.
I didn't think he'd make it because he doesn't enter tournaments. Sad Spargo didn't win but it was a fun watch.

plup lookin' mighty zesty from this angle

I thoroughly enjoyed Evo
>cool new character
>cool new event
>cool top 8
>marlon seething

this was posted in the /v/ thread, reverse image search found nothing

>>1889699
He's number 1 on the in-game leaderboards, so he must grind a lot.
I just wish he streamed more.

Realistically, who could possibly stop him?

>>1889730
No one

Don't like plushies but I'd love to get some merch of Rivals, really wish they did statuettes.
Either way this Absa looks so funny so I might get it.

>>1889737
some of the old plushie looks have become a meme. I hope the updated designs will be good.

kwab

>>1889730
Mentally stable Marlon could

im surprised amsa couldn't get good at this game. it seems he actually tried

>>1889746
Isn't he back in Japan? I don't think the game's big enough outside of the US, and traveling is expensive even with a sponsor.

Were there any Absas in top 32? I feel like I haven’t seen one in tournament yet.

>>1889799
I haven't seen an Absa nor Ranno all day

>>1889750
I think there was a few times where he traveled out to a melee tournament that also had a rivals bracket and he only entered melee. I'm pretty sure he just gave up on rivals 2 at some point

>>1889811
Same, I don't think I saw a single Ranno set

>>1889811
Saprg0 fought an Absa on stream. He wom 2-0, but the games were competitive.

>>1889631
this desu

>galvan puts out his own platforms
Epichad did it better

Thinking of Marlon this morning, hopefully his situation improves. I would've loved to see him in Grands with Plup, maybe next year.
We've already seen where this behavior can lead with Hax$.

Anyone down for a few games?
5ifw2z

I don't think anyone needs to worry about Galvan being OP

>>1891629
that guy just doesnt know how to recover

>>1891632
That guy is Mystery Sol, but yes it seems like you want to go directly to ledge with his side special. Also his air speed is abysmal.
Here's Dan putting him in the thing.

>>1891638
i thought this character spawned a platform. wouldn't this just give him another jump?

>>1891644
he needs to be galvanized to deploy the UFO, and he loses galvanized state by being hit, so unless you reversal them you will not be using UFO for recovery

>>1891644
He spawns a platform if he's galvanized, but that requires hitting your opponent, and you lose it as soon as you're hit yourself. You genuinely might be better off watching Galvan sink from the ledge, rather than going out and giving him a chance to swim off of a trade. I assume his side special is a big fucking disjointed hitbox.

i78fmq
I'm only here for the free weekend.

>>1891766
ggs :))

>>1891902
ggs good stuff

>try Maypul
>she's actually sick
>people just play her like AIDS
You'd think I'd learn that this is always the case

>>1892072
My wife's racism career!
>>1892081
What is the aids way of playing Maypul?

>>1892083
>running away
>spamming seed
>spamming uair
>spamming utilt or ftilt after every failed approach
>spamming normal ledge getup attack because it's the best move in the game for no fucking reason
>hiding behind Lily
>fishing for tech chase dstrong every single stock
I'm more interested in her dragdown uair, dair, down special and reverse side special resets, and tether. I'm not saying any of the above is difficult to deal with, I'm just saying it's boring. I'm awful at her.

>>1892094
Federal agent Maypul skin when?

stomp
stomp
stomp

>>1892099
She's pretty versatile like Melee Fox imo

If you post a heavy vs heavy clip, I will not watch it
If you post a clip against a heavy as a non-heavy, I will not watch it
If you post a clip as a heavy against a non-heavy, Maybe I'll watch it
If you post a clip without a single heavy in the picture, I will watch it
If you post a clip playing as ranno, I will not watch it

Post Maypul feet and I WILL smell them

>>1892251
*forgot to add*
If you post a clip playing as zetterburn, I will not watch it

Free weekend player here, two questions.
What rank do I need to achieve before I stop being a complete shitter?
Should I kill myself in real life whenever I get matched against a Clairen as Fleet?

>>1892410
1100 = plat but it's still slightly in shitter tier. imo the game starts at 1200 rating.

>>1892414
>still in silver
Okay, maybe I should kill myself before I meet another clairen

>>1892410
>rank
There isn't a line in the sand. There are good players in gold. There are bad players in platinum. But platinum is still a good long-term goal.
>Fleet:Clairen MU
lol, lmao
Clairen is the only character that I prefer to counterpick against. It isn't as bad as a MU for Ranno as it is Fleet, but it's still bad. I've never seen anyone give good advice for this MU and I don't know how to do it myself.

>try to play outside of peak hours
>there's one guy online
>he's a fucking faggot who won't stop BMing a player 200 MMR lower than him

>>1892510
wtf /v/ told me this games always active were they lying to me?

>>1893063
Well, I was playing at 4AM on a Monday. And as soon as I complained I started getting more players.

>>1893229
bitching always works

>>1893431
I love heavies. At this point, I think they're filling out the rest of the elements before adding a 5th fire character.

>>1893431
The fucked-up thing is that every one of these characters technically has an animatronic-adjacent skin
>mecha Etalus, Kragg, and Loxodont
>inflatable Galvan

why did they nerf fleet into the ground, exactly? because there were two in top 8?

>>1893768
Two reasons. She was the only character in the game who could consistently edgeguard and it took exactly 0 skill to do so

>>1893883
did you forget about ranno or

>>1893890
Yes, actually

No monthly event for August?

>>1893921
bro its midnight you gotta wait for the sun

>>1893483
>*Unironically perfectly balanced in your path*

man, this game is simply so fucking sick. every time i hop on casual i end up with at least 3 saved replays because so much sick shit happens. i have a hard drive full of replay videos just 'cause i don't want to lose some moments.
feels good that there's finally a great platform fighter than isn't cheap shit like NASB or MVS, or under the thumb of Nintendo like Smash.

>>1893921
The mecha event starts today. I'm not going to lie, Dan's getting my money for this one. The bastard.

>>1893926
>>1893979
alright, somehow this managed to slip by me for 2 days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ8vy3z_LAM

New player here, why is Wrastor's projectile better than all of Fleet's? I know he can't just spam it without dealing with the cooldown but it feels like I can't zone this character at all, even if I enchant an arrow before I F-Strong Wrastor's tornado will both destroy it and then punish me

>>1894170
Crouch cancel it.
Btw Fleet isn't really a zoner. Fstrong is way too limited to be used in neutral for its projectile since they can easily jump it. And her side special tornado is a free parry for the opponent unless she runs in behind it to threaten a grab.

>>1894192
Is crouch canceling why I get punished with a D-Strong when I try to whiff punish the Zetterburn who just spams F-Smash halfscreen away?

>>1894250
That would be a combination of crouch canceling and floorhugging, most likely. It is what it is, but there are also ways to deal with it.

>matched with a spastic diamond Clairen player
>win game 1 easily
>forfeit
I can't be bothered with this character, but specifically the Clairen players who do nothing but dash dance and wait for you to approach. I'd rather forfeit. I'll gladly fight the ones that mash jab, dtilt, and utilt, but passive Clairen players should be held down and beaten Gomer Pyle style until their mental illness is cured.

>>1885962
>Legendary Skins
So this basically confirms that crossover skins are happening right?

are absa's finger nubs soft and velvety or hard like hooves

lore accurate

Why is Loxodont so common?

>>1895262
most fun character. also he gets to charge strongs in neutral without being punished, which noobs love.

>>1895268
I get that he's fun, but you'd think that with how easy it is to bully him he'd be less common. I see him more than Clairen. I don't want to live in a world where he's top tier - not that he's bad.

>lox camps ledge after every stock
love it
no i am not approaching

>>1895273
He's also very noob friendly so there's that. If a character is fun and noob friendly you'll probably see him a lot even if he's easy to beat

I wish people died in this game.
A lot of the flaws/what people don't like at first glance would be forgiven if the average death for characters wasn't 100.

What you see
https://x.com/nardflow/status/1953171438602494319
What i see
https://x.com/DiosHappyHour/status/1230924194822709248

>>1896637
>100
More like 140

>>1896649
I meant in general as when the combo starts, but yeah it'd be like 140 after Tech chase from grab or like weak hit into strong hit.

>>1896637
it would be easier if floorfucking game didnt go up to those numbers

>>1896669
It's crouch canceling that fucks everything up. I look at the tumble %s for moves and they're mostly sensible. Like Olympia dtilt probably shouldn't break FH before 70-80%. You can still hit it or link into it if you catch someone jumping or landing. But the knockback reduction of CC is always active because everyone is always holding down to AFH, so suddenly you dtilt Clairen at 102 fucking % and get jabbed into dstrong and die.

They just need to lower the tumble %s to account for CC.

What's the consensus on the Switch pro controller? I think mine might be acting up

I don't have the muscle memory for the actual suicide confirm

>>1896914
People sing its praises, but I've tried to use it for platform fighters and it just feels off to me. I haven't heard about any significant hardware issues with it.

If you post an Olympia clip I will not watch it

>>1896944
I watched this, i liked it.

>>1896975
>>1892251
Allowed clips list has been updated:
>Zetterburn, Forsburn, Clairen, Wrastor, Maypul, Fleet, and Absa are allowed
>Zetterburn is banned from shining
>Orcane, Kragg, Loxodont, Etalus, Ranno, and Olympia are banned
>heavies are banned from being combo'd
>suboptimal recoveries from the opposing player are banned
The /roag/ clip council will be called to session after Supernova to decide whether Clairen clips will be banned

>>1896914
why would you buy a controller in 2025 that does not have hall sticks?

>>1896914
The lead dev uses a switch pro controller, but yeah use something with hall effect. If you're handy, you can swap out the internals of the controller with the swap kit from here (assuming that your controller needs to be a switch pro controller): https://handheldlegend.com/products/progcc-kit-wireless-wired-bundle
Otherwise if you know how to solder, you can get the gulikit sticks for the Switch controller

hello i like this game

*loses once*
i hate this game

lol i'm raging so hard i'm about to drop out of platinum lol
fuck clairen niggers lol

>>1897581
>getting mad at videogame

>>1897588
lol too late i destroyed my controller RIP
gonna go vent my frustrations by lifting

>>1897615
I sure hope you're joking.
Going to the gym, instead of keyboard mashing at nolt board. Who does that?

>>1897626
nah i got mad because i was drinking. unlike me. very embarrassing, but that's life. resting between 3rd and 4th sets rn.

clairen and ranno being the most popular characters again is proof this game has no future

>>1898073
Sir, you said that 6 months ago.

>>1898130
and i was right then too

>>1898073
No
Adding yet another heavyweight character is the indicative that this game has no future

>>1897089
>>1897317
I've had this controller for a while, but I was meaning to get a substitute since I've got into Rivals. I will look into it

>>1898230
I have a Gamesir. They're solid controllers and inexpensive. I am quite fond of the mouse-click-like microswitch face buttons.

>>1898073
>ranno
>popular
I almost never see him. All Clairen players should have their hands broken with cinderblocks, however.

>>1898234
>Gamesir

I swear to fucking Christ they've broken the netcode, their servers are fucked and/or a huge number of people are just cheating. Every match I've played for the last few days has had constant lag spikes despite both of our pings being good and stable. I lose at least 1 stock because of it in almost every match. It's never been this bad for this long.

>>1899573
It happened to me a couple times, but only a couple times. Don't know what's up. Sometimes my ping spikes to like 500 and just doesn't go down. I love when people just keep beating you up even though you're standing in the corner jabbing to test the lag.

>>1899573
>>1899705
Nice game, dan

what are the balance change predictions, gang?

>>1899998
Zetter buffed or reverted some changes
Clairen nerfed
Etalus buffed
Maypul nerfed to shit for some fucking reason
Loxodont nerfed for some fucking reason, again

Fell out of gold
I don't know how to even momentarily gain control of the situation when I face someone really good at movement in this game
I can't cover them because they're always dash dancing, and when I try to play more patient and shield my opponent is always plus and out of reach due to perfect shorthop aerials
I'm beyond lost, I don't have a semblance of a gameplan, why are platform fighters so fucking opaque compared to traditional fighters

>>1900014
without a replay or more info we can't help you, but in platform fighters the difference between the average player and someone really confident in their movement is very noticeable. good movement is like anime flashstepping *teleports behind you* *crosses up your shield, and waits out your spot dodge* stuff

>>1900024
I don't know how to properly give more information because the knowledge gap. Can you send replay IDs or do I have to record and upload a set?
Tangential but who in their right mind made crouch cancelling a thing? Why can Loxodont punish my FAir on hit at 150%? I don't understand why this is a thing, do I just never ever ever press FAir outside air-to-airs?

>>1900044
I would never have come with a fair1-2 here since he would've been plus even if he didn't floorhug. It's a fixed knockback weak multihit move, they all have this limitation. The benefit being that if they aren't ready for the final hit not to come, you can get a sneaky grab reset.
Idk how high up you were or where you spent your float, but you probably could've done the double bair trick.

>>1900024
>>1900044
Found the replay folder, here's a set I had against the Zetterburn player that beat me so hard that I made the initial scrubpost. It wasn't the set that made me make the post, but a set afterward with the mindset of trying my hardest so my play could be properly critiqued instead of me just getting tilted and losing due to that
https://litter.catbox.moe/zq1ded2zfiibsbo7.zip

>>1900014
>>1900063
I'll go through these replays and write up some advice because it's so rare for people to actually post them.

First off, I rarely play Fleet, so take this with a grain of salt.

1.) I personally think you're playing Fleet in a way that doesn't play to her strengths: reactively, onstage. Fleet is a character that needs to proactively control both the stage and her opponent's options to force beneficial interactions - mostly edgeguards and tech chases. There's four main ways to do this:
>anti-airs and air-to-airs
utilt is your friend. It's stupid, but a lot of players who like to jump in against Fleet will get caught by two utilts in a row because they'll burn their double jump to bait out the first utilt and then land directly on the second with their "punish". As for air-to-airs, fair, uair, and bair are all good; uair is probably the most committal option, however.
>float
tl;dr Fleet's aerials are all bigger and better than her grounded moves with the exception of utilt, so simply floating and threatening any aerial is a good way to prevent people from rushing you down.
>side special
You should basically always be throwing out side special whenever doing so isn't either giving up stage control or sacrificing a punish or tech chase. It's purpose it less to hit the opponent than it is to control space and deny them an option: jumping, recovering directly to ledge, forcing a platform tech chase option, etc. Until your opponent proves that they know how to use the parry button, always be controlling space with side special. Even if they do parry it, you can still use up angle side special. You can also use neutral angle side special to cover a grounded approach.
>grab
(Cont.)

>>1900372
Grab frame data is global across all characters, so grab is naturally one of Fleet's faster grounded options. uthrow, fthrow, and bthrow all put your opponent in a disadvantageous position; fthrow and bthrow put them far offstage, while uthrow usually forces them to burn their double jump to avoid a follow-up. Either way, both of these situations are good for you and can lead to your opponent being knocked offstage without a double jump.
dthrow can also be good at certain %s for forcing tech chase situations where you can get a free fstrong. You can also punish tech in (off of dthrow or whatever else) with dair. You had a perfect opportunity to do it on the last stock of the Godai Delta replay. It's a very strong option as it's effectively a free reset into whatever you want.
The ol' jab-grab works well as Fleet because all of her other options out of jab are slow and unsafe. You can also consistently get grabs off of platform tech chases with waveland grab - whether you're covering platform with side special or not. Waveland grab is probably the best option that no one does at gold.

2.) You're repeatedly choosing options that sacrifice advantage when you have it. Most notably, please phase dash back fstrong out of your play. It's a slow, predictable, reactable option that will only catch people making mistakes. Case in point, in WebM-related every single dash back fstrong is the wrong option
>first one only hit Loxodont because he was mashing, he had ample time to shield
>second one sacrificed an opportunity to air-to-air with nair or bair
>third one was shield
>fourth one was luck

>>1900375
Try to replace it with using fstrong to tech chase people when you know you can't close the gap. It covers a disgusting amount of space and can even be unavoidable depending on how much room your opponent has to roll out. fstrong has a fairly generous close hitbox that also protects against people teching in. Similarly, try to phase out edgeguarding with fstrong unless you're confident it'll connect or your opponent is sufficiently far offstage that you have a moment to fire off a noncommittal one - to either force them to burn a recovery resource or for a lucky gimp.
In short, practice edgeguarding with float, fair, nair, and dair - Fleet's bread-and-butter for closing out stocks. Allowing your opponent back to stage with fstrongs that aren't going to hit and give you less time to land options that will is the fastest way to give up advantage and let your opponent start playing their game again.
For example, on stock 1 of the Hodojo replay you knock Zetteburn offstage with a tech chase fstrong, but rather than covering both high and low recovery with float into either dair (for low) or nair or fair (for high), you fire off a side special that doesn't threaten either recovery option and directly results in you being too late to cover low recovery with dair. While it's side special instead of fstrong, the same principle applies - there's a similar situation, but with fstrong, last stock in the same game.

tl;dr
>try to use side special and Fleet's disjointed, active moves to proactively control space
>go for more grabs and use jab-grab and waveland grab to get them
>practice edgeguarding and tech chasing, which make the most of Fleet's advantage state

damn wtf elkies 3-stocked cake during the crew battle yesterday, pretty wild

god damn ant's absa is fun to watch. sad i missed this live. i guess bracket is going on now though?
https://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp3

>>1900417
elkies is inconsistent like that he's really retarded

>>1900585
i have to respect the feral retard playstyle

>>1899998
>Orcane
Some sort of attribute nerf similar to Clairen's prior air speed nerf
>Clairen
Hitbox adjustments (nerf)
>Olympia
Nerfs
>Zetterburn
Minor buffs
>Ranno
Exactly one minor buff

It feels like Orcane and Olympia have replaced Ranno and Zetterburn, respectively. One is the dtilt character, the other is the mindless button-masher character.

Whos gekknigga and how is he winning vs zb?

>>1900911
The Loxodont guru. He has good guides and he regularly grinds with top players. Probably my favorite player. Unfortunately Loxodont vs. rock is just a -3 MU for the big guy and Zeebee has no shame to stop him from spamming it.

>>1900585
>he

Yoda Cage vs. Sparg0 was a kino set
Hopefully Sandstorm vs. BBatts delivers too

i cannot stress enough how bullshit and tedious the maypul matchup is as basically every character. i would rather fight 1000 zetters and clairen than maypul; they may be OP but maypul is simply unfun at every turn

How do Lox mains go a single day without killing themselves?

>Combo Devils devs say no to floorfucking
when's that kickstarter? they've already earned a sale from me

lol

>>1901697
Airbros... it's so over

>>1901372
Maypul and Clairen feel like the characters where your opponent needs to lose more than you need to win.

>>1901697
There were a lot of Ranno players in top 32, but they were basically bracket filler. I think there was one Ranno in winner's top 16, Toothbrush, and he immediately dropped down to losers to get 3-0'd by Beastly. Ranno's only notable set win of the tournament was against... fucking Loxodont. 3-2. Admittedly, THE Loxodont player, but still Loxodont.
The nerf to Ranno's run speed and the auto-FH change really fucked over the character. I think he's still good, especially his edgeguard game which was unaffected by these changes, but he feels so fucking bad to play now.

But Olympia, Maypul, and Clairen don't surprise me at all.

Olympia supremacy.

Stang0ds... the rat...

I actually forgot that Supernova is on east coast time and Rivals was first, so I slept through all of top 6, lmao

YOU

Common W for the RatGods!

>stang0 / olympia finally wins a major
>all the seething in stream chat @ olympia
it's so over, we're getting shot in the mid-month patch. imo the only thing that needs adjusting is uair. i witnessed way too many disgusting uair extensions into up special during this bracket.

Stupid rat youre gonna get nerfed with me

kill rat

>>1902573
the rat is our friend

Buff the rat's speed.

why does forsburns fstrong2 have no recovery? he has the option to not use it yet when he does it there's zero time to punish

>>1902903
shit hitbox?

>>1902860
Beans

>>1902903
because it's a stubby little disjoint and the only thing preventing you from buttering his buns for floorhugging the most floorhuggable move in the game. it's a timing mixup. you should also be able to punish it with wavedash in shield if he's delaying it.
admittedly i'm not very good at punishing it myself, i just don't find it annoying or anything.

How do you chase down an Olympia who just platform camps on Zetterburn's stage and throws out crystals to chip you down over the course of eight minutes? If I get touched I'm dead so I can't overcommit

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