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Welcome to the Rivals of Aether General. Here we discuss things in the Rivals of Aether franchise and other Aether Studios games!

>Latest Patches (Rivals II): https://steamcommunity.com/app/2217000/announcements

>Rivals of Aether official sites, Youtube channel and X(formerly Twitter):
https://rivalsofaether.com/
https://rivals2.com/
https://youtube.com/@RivalsofAetherOfficial
https://x.com/RivalsOfAether

>Where to get the games (on PC):
>Rivals of Aether
https://store.steampowered.com/app/383980
>Rivals of Aether II
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2217000
>Lovers of Aether (Free Game)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1043180
>Dungeons of Aether
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1668290
>Dreams of Aether
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3463050

>Feedback form:
https://rivals2.com/nolt

>Rivals of Aether 2 resources:
https://rivalsframedata.com/
https://dragdown.wiki/wiki/Rivals_of_Aether_II

I love my wife!

Glad that review bomb campaign didn't go anywhere

>>1833131
Don't worry, the game's getting review-bombed again in 2 days when Absa's released, new players get raped in placement matches, and they see that there's still no real tutorials 2/3rds of a year after release.

>>1833192
>tutorials
Back in my day we would get our ass kicked to our teeth before we learned to git gud.

>>1833261
Don't make me post the Virtua Fighter tutorial. I do agree that too people are too soft when it comes to fighting games. Post-Melee Smash has also produced a particularly pathetic breed who take personal offense to other players knowing how to play.

https://files.catbox.moe/wdewct.avif

>>1833598

>pool party event
Hmm...

>>1834411
to nobody's surprise

In a perfect world...

>>1834512
>6 fire characters while other elements only have 5
>no guest characters

>>1834549
Fill the other slots with OCs. And fuck crossovers. Unless they can get a big name like Silksong or Goku, don't pollute the roster. Ori and SKnight were the worst adds to the first game.

>>1834512
just 2 more weeks!

>>1834613
I didn't play RoA1 so I have no strong opinion about crossover characters, but I do think that Hornet or Sybil would at least fit the game with some minor adjustments. There's a lot of anthropomorphic animal indies to pick from these days.
Fuck Deltarune.

is it up yet

>>1835265
It's up. Also, they really need to hire someone to proofread their patch notes:
>Fireworks DFX (Promo this for Fourth of July, also mention in patch notes as a new standalone DFX.)
This is like the 4th time they've left in spelling errors or mistakes.

>images showing off the summer palettes are on a test stage
>could have easily used Merchant Port since it's, you know, summer palettes
>platform layout is different from any existing stage
The only question is whether it's a new or returning stage. It's similar to Sylvanos' stage, but who knows.

what were they thinking?

>>1835773
If you think this is bad, wait until you see Sylvanos' every normal

Man, /vm/ is tough, huh.

>>1836875
yea, this board doesn't have much traffic

>>1836875
No one will use this thread specifically for roa because it belongs on vg. No one will ever look for it here.

Thoughts on Absa so far? I like her but, damn some of her moves are way too slow

>>1837477
I havent played yet because this update doesnt seem to work on linux and im too lazy to do my own fix but ive seen a bunch of combos that all boiled down to spamming upair and downair over and over until the opponent was at a high enough percent to die to a backair. i know its only day 2 but i get the feeling there isnt much to this character.

>>1837477
she's fun, but she is making my fingers bleed with all the movement required.

>>1836875
>/vm/ is extremely slow and no one will ever look for the thread here
>/vg/ is too fast because gacha "games" have taken over the board despite having a dedicated containment board, so /roag/ will likely die there. To really drive this post home, let me list the highest post-per-minute generals alive on /vg/ now until I get to a real video game general. Gacha games are in greentext:
>1.) Uma Musume
2.) FFXIV
>3.) Honkai Star Rail
>4.) Genshin Impact
5.) Undertale and Deltarune
>6.) Wuthering Waves
7.) FFXIV (again)
>8.) Honkai Star Rail (again)
>9.) Shadowverse
>10.) Blue Archive
>11.) Uma Musume (again)
>12.) Limbus Company
13.) FFXIV (again [again])
14.) Undertale and Deltarune (again)
15.) Sonic the Hedgehog general (not an actual video game general, doesn't discuss the games)
>16.) 1999
>17.) Honkai Stair Rail (again [again])
>18.) Nikke
>19.) Shadowverse (again)
>20.) Limbus Company (again)
>21.) Genshin Impact (again)
>22.) Wuthering Waves (again)
>23.) Girls' Frontline
>24.) Nikke (again)
>25.) Congratulations to our winning general, Elden Ring and Nightreign General!

Third world gacha game players are the biggest blight on this site. /vt/umors are only second to them because they actually stay in their containment board.

>>1836875
>/vm/ is extremely slow and no one will ever look for the thread here
>/vg/ is too fast because gacha "games" have taken over the board despite having a dedicated containment board, so /roag/ will likely die there.
To really drive this post home, let me list the highest post-per-minute generals alive on /vg/ now until I get to a real video game general that isn't just people jerking off over fictional characters. Gacha games are in greentext:
>1.) Uma Musume
2.) FFXIV
>3.) Honkai Star Rail
>4.) Genshin Impact
5.) Undertale and Deltarune
>6.) Wuthering Waves
7.) FFXIV (again)
>8.) Honkai Star Rail (again)
>9.) Shadowverse
>10.) Blue Archive
>11.) Uma Musume (again)
>12.) Limbus Company
13.) FFXIV (again [again])
14.) Undertale and Deltarune (again)
15.) Sonic the Hedgehog general (not an actual video game general, doesn't discuss the games)
>16.) 1999
>17.) Honkai Stair Rail (again [again])
>18.) Nikke
>19.) Shadowverse (again)
>20.) Limbus Company (again)
>21.) Genshin Impact (again)
>22.) Wuthering Waves (again)
>23.) Girls' Frontline
>24.) Nikke (again)
25.) Congratulations to our winning general, Elden Ring and Nightreign General!
Third world gacha game players are the biggest blight on this site. /vt/umors are only second to them because they actually stay in their containment board.

>>1837477
Always liked Ness, Lucas, Mewtwo so I am really liking her.
I don't like the Zelda sweetspots but I've been spamming and hitting cloud with them so it's actually not so bad.

>>1837477
I think she is ok

>>1838079
>total time 53 minutes
wtf

[Good News] PirateSoftware Quits Offbrand Games

>>1838205
Well when he's trying to platform tech chase with an attack that only covers 1/3rd of the platform, it's no wonder

https://x.com/kusumikins/status/1940869372811341834
>throw opponent off stage
>backair backair backair
Waaaoooww very interesting character

>>1838251
>A character is using a kill option
Explain to me whats wrong in these? If this was december the opponents would survive

>>1838205
yea, It took a while to complete the arcade mode as absa
still, not as bad as the wrastor one

>>1838265
It's too simplistic

>>1838313
Hate the player, not the game

>>1838313
I want to see up special used more to chase someone off stage, but it too will end in a
>aerial spike

>>1838342
It is literally the games fault. If the simple option works there's no reason to ever do anything else

>>1838475
There are multiple reasons to do "anything else", but the most important is not being a boring faggot who's entire gameplan is pressing good normals over and over.

>>1839057
If the other player do not adapt, play to win and abuse the shit out of that good normal

>>1837477
She fun! bought the game 3 days before she released and didn't knew about her, she literally have everything I could ask for in terms of tools
Other Absas online mostly seem to try to abuse her uair, but for some reason I don't and mostly want to abuse her up-b into fair/nair (with cloud setplay overuse of course)

>>1839095
Her uair seems like a lame move. Good, but lame.

why the fuck are shields so OP in this game?
>no shield poking
>has tons of health and regen so it will never break
>nearly everything is safe on shield
i'm honestly sick of this shit. why couldn't they do shields like combo devils or rushrev instead?

why the fuck are shields so OP in this game?
>no shield poking
>has tons of health and regen so it will never break
>nearly everything is minus on shield
i'm honestly sick of this shit. why couldn't they do shields like combo devils or rushrev instead?

>>1839282
>why is the game not like /my game/

>>1839291
"My game" in this instance being Rivals 1

>>1839282
>nearly everything is minus on shield
air to ground and most specials definitely aren't, depending on distance if you hit someone from their back while they shield is also virtually plus

>>1839309
At its core, they're the same game. RoA2 just happens to have a few new added mechanics

>Come back after a break for Absa
>Can't even constantly beat bots now

fuck
At least Absa porn is free

>>1839730
Feelsbad being a casual enjoyer.
Hardly ever find FFAs so I just play against bots.

what do you do against floorhugging or crouch cancels? I feel like half the time I get hit is when people spam it

>>1839986
What's your character?

>>1839992
absa

>>1839993
lol ur fuked
aerial poking, not falling for ftilt2 meme, djc dair, baby/wave dash grabs

>>1840009
>not falling for ftilt2 meme
well if the first part of the ftilt touches then it's better to delay into a second ftilt or go into an aerial; but ftilt1 loses to fh downtilt in training (because I assume people spamming fh are mashing down + either tilt or strong)
>djc dair
why not djc nair then? dair have poor horizontal range

>>1839730
I got put into the bottom of Gold after previously being Platinum when I came back for the Olympia update. I don't know if they changed the ranking system or people leveled up, but it felt fucking brutal at first. I'm Diamond now. It's especially bad this time because the Absa update reset everyone's ranks, so returning players were wading through a knee-deep morass of unranked players who were actually 1100+.

>>1839986
Grab, abuse moves that spike, meteor, or multi-hit, learn your moves tumble %s, projectiles, force them to approach so you can anti-air them or catch them while they're not holding down. I imagine DJC sweet spot aerials basically tumble at 0% for Absa. And you have nair.

>Absa's Ftilt2 counts as a melee hit for trading Fleet's bomb
lolz

>>1840772
also means she gets fucked in the ass the moment you parry it.

funny bit

>>1841535
you can stop kragg from rolling??

Cake is so fucking good when he locks in. Every time I watch him play I'm like
>damn I need to learn Forsburn
Also lmao @ him flipping off Marlon

>>1841719

>>1841755
gigabased

>>1841535
>>1841692
Classic

cakewinslol
At least I like watching him play. Can't believe Sparg0 threw away the set by not doing roll from ledge.

how do i play etalus, i cant win a game

Rivals players of 2027 be like
>I miss when floorhugging was good!
>This game just wasn't the same after PirateSoftware left.
>These new characters are a ploy to sell more plushies

>>1842059
Watch Animal vods https://www.youtube.com/@AnimalROA2

>>1842079
thanks i was looking for someone to watch but dont know any of the good players
do you have any good player vod channels for kragg?

>>1842090
Just look up Zeebee's, Ion's, and CheesPotato's tranny warning tournaments sets. Ion plays Olympia now, I believe.

>>1841755
Why did he do it bros

>>1839282
Shield health and regen are even slower in this game than standard Smash games. It's really just the lack of poking that makes it seem better than it is.

>>1842125
Because hecking trannies are heckin valid and cake&co hates niggers.

>>1842482
>see shield is low
>oh i should go in and finish the job
>get hit because i go in
>their shield has now regenerated from hitting me
it feels like trying to kill a fly and tripping on your shoelaces

Greatest set of all time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5oRjSHlq5k

>>1843688
What an absolute clownshow. Zeebee ended up adapting really well though.

Does anyone else feel like this is the only fighting game you're good at? Idk why but every other game i feel like im following some kind of a flowchart but this game feels like every option you have is so universal

>>1845003
No because i'm bad lmao
It really depends how much time you spend in each game you played and how much skill transfers between them, i doubt you have no flowcharts in this too

>>1845003
That's because this game is for unskilled players

>>1845003
More lenient execution checks mean that it's easier to translates your thoughts into actions. As someone who says
>I was trying to...
more than anything else while playing other fighting games (mostly Melee, SF6, and 3S), Rivals feels like it's made for me. I don't need to lab anything execution-based except esoteric character-specific tech, and when I do lab things it's typically knowledge (punishes, hitboxes, DI, floorhug break %s, etc.), not execution.

Or to put it a different way, 2D is classical, Melee is jazz, and Rivals is jazz for retards.

>>1845209
>Rivals is jazz for retards.
Or maybe its jazz on rails because I dont want to spend 100 hours labbing all the tech execution and selling my hands to arthritis

>>1845466
>he believes over exaggerated stereotypes to be fact
based retard

mystery nigga

>>1846394
Dog.

>>1846394
But most likely: fire character, maybe Artemis?

>>1846394

>>1846394
Sylvanos or Hodan

>>1846632
Give me this nigga

zetterburn player is dipping out of evo over floorhugging

>>1847875
>ultimate
>has expression
Nigger is just buttmad cause he cant shine pressure for free.

>>1847873
>>1847875

>>1847873
>zetterburn player is dropping out
Oh no, whatever will we do?

>>1847875
>Ultimate
>expression
Jesus Christ. In all seriousness, there are a lot of things to criticize RoA2 for and not knowing what the fuck to do with floorhugging is one of those, but he couldn't have picked a worse example.

I can't wait until the developers finally fucking give up on floorhugging and Olympia actually feels fun to play again. What's the point of "shield" pressure if no one even bothers shielding and just holds down instead? For fuck's sake, Olympia's jab 1 doesn't even combo into jab 2 when everyone's holding down. Or anything else for that matter.

If you don't play like you have a death wish, get off of casual

>>1848649
Floorhugging is fun therefore it should stay.

>>1848649
>rivals devs admitting they're wrong about anything
Yeah don't hold your breath on that one

This game really is lacking a high concept character. like a true unintuitive weirdo oddball.

Clean reversal

>>1851618
I feel like there are multiple characters whose mechanics have a lot of unrealized depth and who are played more simply than they could potential be played.
>Forsburn
Prime example. Most players barely use smoke, clone, or his actionable teleport. I've seen literally two people use his special pummel as a free follow-up actionable teleport in hundreds of hours. Rarely do you ever counter anyone who does all of these things in combination. 90% of people play him purely as a disjoint character.
>Olympia
The gem lets you do a lot of Insane shit and almost all Olympia players just... don't do it. No one uses it to go deep off-stage. No one uses it as an air-to-air combo extender or kill confirm. No one uses the dunk. Although to be fair, the dunk fucking sucks even if you have a hard read. I didn't see one other Olympia player do WebM-related until Ion did it in tournament last month. FADC is also underutilized.
>Kragg
Needs no explanation.

The thing is that all of these characters also double as braindead, low skill floor characters even though you can play them weird as hell. I don't know if that's a good thing or not.

>>1851952
Yeah, no, I mean a truly unorthodox character with a radically different gameplan, like Zappa or (Xrd) Jacko.

>>1851955
I don't expect that for at least a year. Characters like that are just inherently a risk from a development perspective because they'll turn off so many players.

This game fucking sucks

>>1851960
They're an extinct species in this super "accessible" (casual) era of fightan games. Rivals 1 didn't even have any. Hell, Melee doesn't even have any, but that game was a fluke.

>>1852835
Go on

>come back from a break
>do ranked placement
>get gapped by like 10 different players

I think I may be shit at this game anons

I've played enough of 1.2 and 1.3 to decide that I just fucking hate floorhugging and don't think it enriches the game in any way. They need to rip the band-aid off. Nerf floorhugging so it only works at low %s WITH the knockback reduction from crouch-canceling. Floorhugging should simply stop being an option against even the weakest options at around 60%. It's like the inverse of Ultimate, where at high %s stocks devolve into both players throwing out safe, auto-cancel aerials to fish for stray hits. At low %s, you're forced to fish for options that beat floorhug because anything else just gets beaten by... holding down.

At the very least, they need to make it so you can only ASDI down in certain states.

>>1853245
Same shit happened to me. I was 1350 on patch 1.2, and my placement matches put me at 1000. Unranked is still full of formerly platinum and above players doing their placement matches.

i fucking hate clairen players and i will always do everything in my power to make them as miserable as possible

>>1854924
Youre doin good work out there anon keep it up.

bug reveal at evo?

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2217000/view/535480083734860285
Absa:
>wavedash buffed
>dash attack range buffed
>utilt recovery reduced, late hit uair knockback increased
>nair knockback angle buffed
Misc.
>new epic Forsburn skin
>intermediate tutorials, fucking finally
>some palettes

>Forsburn gets his 11th skin
>Olympia has 7
>Etalus has 6 (actually only 5 because you can't buy his Retro skin because... you just can't, okay?)
>Absa has 4
This sucks man. Especially for how gay looking those skins are. (DUDE what if Olympia was a chef? haHAA. What if Olympia was a Construction Worker?! haHAA)

>>1856316
found the salty ranno player

>>1856316
erm excuse me the stupid digger olympia skin is a reference to dungeons

>>1856331
He has 12 skins you retard

olympia need some buffs

>>1856335
Why couldn't we get a cool robed Olympia skin rather than the dumb PPE outfit?

>>1856337
Careful, you'll piss off the Redditors who seethe every time she's on-stream at a tournament.

>2-stock someone 300 mmr higher than me in a ditto
>they quit
nitroglycerin mental

>it's been 7 months since Ranno had a skin that qualified for bonus event experience

>>1857829
Why he so sticky

>pull off the most satisfying string of all time
>game just... doesn't save replay
dope

>>1858501
ever considered using a program for background recording?

>>1858501
ever considered hitting the combo every time?

Who's the #1 Absa player in 2 that I should watch vods of?

>>1859575
If Penguin came back, Penguin. If not, I have no idea.

>sandbag
>lose
how could this possibly have happened

>run it down against some gold guy while playing a secondary
>he taunts
>carve a swathe of blood through ranked looking for him again
>finally find him
>play my main this time
>SD every stock because i'm a retard
>he taunts
fug

>>1859575
Play the game instead

>>1860043
Such is the life of an honest character like maypul.

>>1860247
oh shut the fuck up. you CAN learn from watching top players and there's nothing wrong with learning this way

>>1860272
Dont care about "improving" that shit is for speedrunning trannies and smelly compfags.

>>1860312
>getting better at something is for trannies
are you mentally well, anon?

>>1839553
*a few added mechanics that totally ruin the GODLIKE neutral of RoA1

>>1860312
>crying about compfags in a general for a game designed specifically for compfags
You're not very bright, are you?

Interesting.

>>1837886
16 days late to this reply, but I fucking despise this about /vg/ so much it's likely what I hate most about the site even when I consider just how much it's gone down the gutter in recent years.

It'd improve the board so much if the gatcha threads got forced to /vmg/, give exposure to lesser known generals and make way for new ones.

My sympathies from /indie/ (please God come chat with us about meme-games when you're not chatting here and help us fight against the gatcha hordes)

>>1860545
Don't even think about shitting this thread up.

>>1860551
your post made me check if /vmg/ allows generals, and in fact, it does
there's no reason for so many gacha generals to be on /vg/

>>1860589
Myes, but gachafags will never abandon their "prestige" status and accept containment.

>>1860738
It's not about what the gatchafags think but about what Hiroshima Nagasaki does, and I don't even think he pays much attention to this site but instead leaves it to the jannies

>>1860738
It's strange to imagine the people at a fledgling /vg/ general (one that requires attentive bumping to survive) choosing that life of bumping rather than going to a comfy slower board.

>>1860818
Yeah, I just can't be assed to babysit a video game thread on a board full of gacha game generals. It's not worth my time.

>>1860312
Sakurai's direction has been an unmitigated disaster for casuals' mental

>wonder why my shorthops are so inconsistent
>check (out of game) controller's profile config
>switch from hair triggers to normal triggers
>suddenly my shorthops are consistent
>instant win streak
haha this whole time I was handicapping myself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSxqZUlY4r8
i don't know why i like watching Etalus MUs so much but i do

>>1860324
>>getting better at something is for trannies
Getting better at a skillset as worthless as fighting games sure as hell is. Doesnt make the games not fun, but only a manchild would ever prioritize improvement at something so trivial.

>>1861675
God forbid anyone do anything recreational

>>1861709
Taking recreation as "self improvement" is where it becomes mental sickness.

>>1861714
I wasn't aware that athletes, artists, writers, dancers, , musicians, aesthetes, and every other manner of hobbyist or aspiring professional was mentally ill for daring to do something other than looking down on others. Thanks for educating me.

>>1861714
What

>>1861718
>comparing video games to a skilled profession

>>1861812
Hitting a ball with a stick is less than 200 years old and people get paid millions of dollars to do it well, professionally.

>>1832603 (OP)
Take your damm shorts off

>if you're better than me you must be a tranny! cope and seethe, i've drawn myself as the gigachad
It's wild to me that this site went from absolutely fucking despising casuals in the 00s to people priding themselves on being casuals who have no interest in video games.

>>1861959
one of these two should work
https://gamebanana.com/mods/606749
https://gamebanana.com/mods/604896

>>1861959
just watch porn

>playing secondaries on ranked
>encounter an """unranked""" diamond player sweating his balls off
>kicks my ass, JV2
>switch to my main
>kick his ass, JV2
>waits out the results screen
>swaps character
>swaps character
>swaps character
>swaps character
>likely trying to trick me into switching characters
>pretend to switch
>he picked the same damn character, rinse and repeat
i wish new fighting games actually allowed you to talk to other players. so many of these interactions are like dogs barking at each other purely because you put a fence between them. this was probably nothing but it felt devious.

>We want the furry audience!

>>1862511
As boring as touching grass

>>1862912
nothing shown in this image draws in furries.

>>1863263
Furries are crazy about paws.

random bems

>ranno clips
yawn my dead grandmother could do that

>>1863546
hey that's great

August event was hidden in some Offbrand Games sizzle reel: mecha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dlRHJ9_rI4
Looks like I'm buying a fucking bundle. These bastards.

>>1863622

>>1863546
Whats her elo?

>>1863622
Finally a good event

>>1863622
What a shit event

https://www.change.org/p/tell-mastercard-visa-activist-groups-stop-controlling-what-we-can-watch-read-or-play
Sign this so the credit card mafia doesn't force any furry girls in shorts again.

>>1863810
What shit taste. I'm excited for mecha skins for characters I actually want to play.

[serious post] How do you fight Maypul?
>pancakes every possible approach
>dash attack is the everything button and party starter
>her tech chases are guaranteed due to her speed
>absurdly brief recovery on every whiff
>impossible to zone due to her speed and pancakes (any projectile -> she floorhugs it -> she dash attacks you)
>massive disjoints that lead into any DI mixup she pleases
>manage to hit her? well you get no conversion because she has the skinniest hurtbox in the game
Genuinely I just want workable advice that isn't generic non-advice like "uhhh floorhug everything and grab her" and "parry everything" or "sit in shield then she'll just dash attack you and you can punish :)"

>>1865222
Idk what level you're but some notes from forever plat maypulshitter:
Try baiting out dash attacks or floorhugging the first hit.
Di out nairs and dtilts, makes it hard to follow up, except when you're marked and I can follow with another nair to push you off side.
DI up any up airs to stop the juggle, especially for potential tether->upair
Parry the plant
The recovery is quite predictable and once the doublejump is spent it might as well be over.
Its hard to really poke shield as maypul, On shield nair is not safe at all. I struggle vs clairen's and wrastors bair
There's other stuff thats MU dependent but mostly its aerial moves that beat her tiny hitbox ones.

>>1863622
>Mecha Kragg

Oh hell yeah. Hoping for an Oly skin, too.

>>1865417
Sorry, you're getting bus driver Olympia and you're going to like it

>>1865222
I always recall something Ant said in his Ranno guide: don't chase Maypul in neutral. Maypul's speed is a resource, and expending or restricting your own resources to try to catch her is what she wants. It's no different than Etalus forcing you to burn a defensive resource off-stage by summoning icicles. Despite her speed, Maypul lacks good approaching options: early hit nair, which is only active for 2 frames, is her only aerial that's -2 on shield, while everything else is -5 (late hit nair) or -6. Eventually the Maypul player won't be able to resist throwing out that stupid fucking dash attack
By playing patiently and forcing her to use riskier options to get in against you, you're refusing to play into Maypul's bait-and-punish playstyle. I'm not saying to play passively; patient is not passive. You want to play patiently for stage control: slowly box Maypul into the corner, restricting her movement and neutral options, and then try to catch her when she tries to get out of the corner. Ideally you want to catch her out of her double jump, which can kill depending on whether she has seed active.

Maypul is one of those characters who forces you to stop playing your game and project yourself into the other player's head. Like, you say
>dash attack is the everything button and party starter
>absurdly brief recovery on every whiff
>massive disjoints that lead into any DI mixup she pleases
So what is the Maypul player going to want to do? They're going to want to press dash attack, ftilt, and utilt, and this is what 90% of them do. You can beat a lot of Maypul players by doing nothing but anticipating and conditioning these three options. Dash attack can be punished by anything. ftilt and utilt can be parried. utilt can be baited out and punished with an aerial if they don't adapt and uair instead.
>her tech chases are guaranteed due to her speed
I hate this bullshit and have no advice.

i just can't shorthop with any consistency. should i bite the bullet and the shorthop macro? feels fucking absurd putting on training wheels in a game that's already for babies with its 200 frame input buffer

A tiny platform is a death sentence, it's a platform and it's tiny
(Except I fucked up)

>>1865647
nothing to feel ashamed of. go for it

>>1865647
i find it more ergonomic to have short hop on shoulder button.

>taunt someone on ranked
>switch to casual because i'm a pussy and scared i'll match with them again

https://www.reddit.com/r/RivalsOfAether/comments/1m6nkji/badger_co_is_officially_on_the_world_wide_web_and/
Linking to Reddit because it's the original post. What could it mean?

>>1866299
possibly related to lovers of aether since that is the only timeline we've seen computers in this universe. also the website in the image does not exist.

>>1866322
The cipher in the bottom says
>PRIMORDIAL RAGE BORN OF CATACLYSMIC DEVASTATION
I know very little about RoA's lore, but doesn't this description fit Sylvanos? Coincidentally, his stage has a similar layout to the test stage that was hidden in the Absa patch notes. I want La Reina already, but I guess we're getting a Sylvanos trailer at Evo.

>>1866340
Nooo, I wanted another newcomer. We've only gotten two (Lox & Fleet)!! Some sequel this is. I prefer the Street Fighter 6 approach. Base roster had 18 characters and 6 of them were newcomers. Dan estimated that new characters take between 1.2x-1.5x the time of returning characters, but still. Well, better Sylvanos than Elliana or Hodan. He's easily the coolest looking character they ever made. If we're lucky, it's another fakeout.

ausfag looking for other ausfags to play roa2/melee, im not amazing but not dreadful

>>1866340
I don't think it's related to the next character, the previous three did not have hints before their release (with the exception of an accidental leak on Etalus case)

>>1866453
Why are all multiplayer games dead in aus? No matter what game I've played in the past 16 years aus players have always had a hard time finding other players in all of those games

>>1866677
don't you guys share servers with east asia? tons of people in those countries

>>1866677
low playerbase in general so more niche games struggle hard
>>1866678
nah oce servers are a thing

I really like how the emphasis on accessibility lets even an old man like me have a punish game. I couldn't do a lot of what I wanted to do in Melee and PM because of the execution barrier, but here it's just a matter of how fast I think.

>watch #1 etalus fight #1 absa
>the etalus never once goes for ice armor
>the absa never once uses down special

>>1868387
A lot of top players just don't use the characters entire kits. Ion is the only Olympia who consistently uses gem for extending edgeguards, and even then I've only seen him do the gem dash into dair / fair on direct hit. Even Cake doesn't use Forsburn's actionable teleport that much. I assume they think it isn't worth it, but it's part of the fun of playing each character.

>>1868408
i just wonder if I overthink the gimmicks when I would be better off executing perfectly spaced fairs 24/7

>>1868437
I think gimmicks are easier to counter than fundamentals, but not necessarily worse. I feel like great players are much more consistent at not only avoiding gimmicks, but directly countering them as well. A good player knows to FH or DI out Olympia's gem. A better player will either parry, FH and counter, or preemptively intercept the gem with a disjointed normal. The risk:reward is work volatile against a better player, you're risking giving your opponent 3s of invulnerability or a reversal, and you're also less likely to get a conversion off of gem.

That said, there are gimmicks you should always be using. Every one of Kragg's specials. Olympia's FADC. Forsburn's smoke. Most characters' gimmicks are so versatile that I feel like it's easier to overwhelm people with mix-ups than it is to play perfect neutral with normals.

>>1868454
>work volatile
more volatile*
smoking crack

anyone watch the dev stream today? i missed it. it looks like it's just dan talking about going 0-2 at locals.

>watching someone stream ranked
>dan jumpscare
it's honestly sick that dan actively plays his own game. it would be like catching Harada online.

>>1869611
I cought the end of it but basically:
>please attend out tournaments
>Tournaments are hard because of hardware requirements. one of the focus is to improve running the game on lower end machines (especially steamdeck)
>sylvanos and mollo plushies added in background, basically confirmed at least a character reveal at EVO
>stage skins are slow because we only have 1 environment artist
>Dan is happy

>>1870020
During what little I watched, I did notice that Dan said that they were testing characters, plural, in the developer build. I think Sylvanos is very likely the next character based on >>1866340, but in a perfect world La Reina (or anyone new) is also coming sooner rather than later.
>Dan is happy
:)
>Please attend our tournaments
I almost considered entering Evo since it's just like a 5 hour drive to Vegas, but then I saw that the 3-day pass is $200 fucking dollars. Fuck off, Sony.

>>1870020
I'll be a little annoyed if they reveal DLC 4 already. I don't like waiting two months between reveal and release. I used to play Rushdown Revolt and they were showing off their stance switch character Reina (no reLation) like a full year before she came out. Then for their next character Torment they showed him about two weeks before he was playable. I much preferred the latter!

>>1869611
There's a summary here https://www.reddit.com/r/RivalsOfAether/comments/1m8d1y7/rivals_dev_stream_7242025_notes/

watching winners semis of some online tournament and it's crazy to me how some olympia players just completely ignore gem