Thread 1841149

No bigotism edition.
Do you think having GPS mini maps harm the MMO experience?

>no bigotism edition
Hang all trannies

>>1841149 (OP)
it is a lot more immersive with no map.
though really the zones are not that big and it mostly has an impact the first few times or in areas you dont go often... also kedge

>>1841337
in the later dungeons you can end up looping quite a few times and fall for the dead end/pit fall traps easily due to no map.
Also there should be a rare aviak npc named Birdnose Secrets

>>1841149 (OP)
I think a good middle ground is having a static map window, something to reference in-game so you don't have to open a website, with markers and zone labels etc and then just have the directional compass with no mini-map.
You get a static map with zone details, camps etc and a compass to use to figure out your heading on the map.
It's a little obtuse but that's the point of immersion. The little frustrations add value to the experience once you've accomplished your goal/task

>>1841149 (OP)
real video game screenshot?

>>1841395
Careful the hall monitors are out here reporting

>niggers are the big brained humans in EQ1
>EQ2 retcons this and turns Erudites into some weird human/grey alien hybrid
what did Smedley mean by that?

>>1841149 (OP)
I think you should have a map but it shouldn't have your location. People forget Everquest once had a great idea, the maps were blank at one point before brewall mapped them out. You were free to build your own map.

>>1841149 (OP)
I played EQ last when I was in high school back in 2000. I am about to install P99. Any recommendations for class/race combos? I used to play an enchanter but have pretty much forgotten everything.

>>1842165
make sure if you play any 70 agi race/class combo to bring agi up to 75 because there is a super penalty for being below

>>1842199
from what I was reading the server is pretty mature but I always wanted to try my hand at tanking so I made a shadowknight

from what I remember they did a truckload of damage with harm touch

Cautioning people against investing their time in a server run by a deranged man in a dress is 100% topical no matter how much it makes you seethe. P99 is the only proven time tested emulated server.

I think the recent injunction against THJ means Quarm is def not coming back. Secrets is going to try to transition (kek) into a full time streamer instead and try to get his troonbux that way.

>>1842783
What recent injunction? THJ is still up, do you have a link so I can read it?

>>1842905
THJ got sued by Daybreak.

>>1843153
I am aware, but you said recent injunction. As far as I know there has been no injunction so I was making sure I didn’t miss it. Did you mean the stipulated order or were you just talking about legal action in general?

Is this only eq1 discussion? How is eq2 looking these days I haven't played in years (since Destiny of Velious)

>>1842905
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/58600018/Daybreak_Game_Company_LLC_v_Takahashi_et_al

>>1843190
fuck eq2 stupid nerd gtfo of the mmo goats thread

>>1843200
shut it, I bet you play a midget race.

>>1843190
I was gonna play the "classic" server but at the same time it launched Daybreak went full fag/troon enablers so I refused to give them my money. There's a trve classic emu trucking along that I'm waiting for.

>>1843226
which one? I'd be very interested in that

>>1843248
eq2emu

>>1842515
based truthchad

>>1843190
I always wanted to play EQ2 but only if someone does a P99 equivalent server for it for the launch version (which played more like EQ1) it also can't include those faggot tier asian character remodels.

>>1842261
good choice, shadowknight is the most playable tank by far

>>1841421
Yes

>>1843451
I never understood why they had two types of models for their characters. always seemed like a strange choice to me.

Everquest is only good when it's the hottest kid on the block.

>>1843642
They made anime models for the Asian market and let everyone just pick which ones they wanted to use. Yes it was retarded.

>>1843521
this art piece is awesome but it's funny how it's insanely false advertising none of the characters look like this in-game at all
I choose paladin as my very first character because of that knight in the background, same with the paladin icon but I never got my cool winged helmet in classic EQ when I was a child....

>>1843642
>>1843692
Sometimes I wonder what went wrong with their art department back in the day for so many blatantly shit tier choices.
EQ1's luclin models were so bad and they would have been better off just adding more cool textures to the original sovlful models for more armor variety.
I imagine they probably lost a decent chunk of older customers too due to the game demanding better hardware with a lot of the newer shit from later xpacs.

She was canonically raped by lizard men, right?

>Project Quarm not even on the emu list anymore
>THJ most likely going to be dead
>P99 still standing

Pretty impressive, but what a bad time to be a single boxxer in EQ.

>>1844563
Would be funny if Rogean did P99 green 2.0 by the end of this when THJ shuts down and end up with 10k people trying to play P99 again

>>1844563
why a bad time for single boxxer EQ? the only good server still stands and hasn't been tampered with for decades.
anyone with a brain knew quarm was rocky territory early on, even if we excuse birdnose being a mentally ill man in a dress. It was just pathetic when a late 30's grown man throws literally tantrums and leaves his own projects discord while also e-begging.
Everyone has issues but don't put it on full display on your popular video game servers main source of information and file distribution.

Rogean and Nilbog are like rocks never once embarrassed themselves on public display and they've had P99 up since like 2009.

>>1844702
I can say with confidence that the overlap between people playing THJ (and to a lesser extent quarm) and people playing p99 is very small

>>1844716
very cool, birdnose

This guys still seething about being banned from quarm lmao. I'll come back to p99 for red 2.0 but i'm not swimming in the blue/green cesspool of mental illness.

>>1845055
nta but bullying troons is always a worthwhile use of one's time

>>1845088
true

>>1845055
Quote every single post you think was made by that one person, this is going to be great. I know you won’t do it though because you know it will make you look like a fucking idiot.

>>1841149 (OP)
No map is preferable but that's with the caveat that the zones are actually designed to be navigable. I tried Monsters & Memories in the recent playtest and the layout of the city was mega garbage and it was WAY too fucking big. It was easily 5x the size of Freeport and Freeport has some obvious markers that you're in the right area (East vs West vs North) and groups things together nicely.

>>1845247
>there are so many people shidding and seething here.
lmfao

>>1845646
Yea EQ almost did something amazing when the original map came out, they were blank. They wanted you to make your own maps, in hindsight the map with realtime positioning took out so much danger and immersion, should have given maps that were much more vague with landmark or even /loc navigation. Hardcore gaymers on p99 have 3rd party logfile readers that basically give them all of live features with timers and maps so it kind of opened pandoras box

>>1845881
As I thought, pussy bitch. The only schizo here shitting up the thread is you.

>>1843820
SoE squeezed them to update the models and it was done around 3 months before launch because of DoAC.

>>1846138
it's funny, sony tried so hard to "stay ahead" of the competition but they didn't know it was just making them fall behind even further.

>>1846191
they do this thing where they chase the carrot of what other mmos are doing instead of forging their own path which is arguably what made EQ such a great success to begin with

>>1844563
why is it not on the list? does secrets really think daybreak gives a shit about him?

>>1846857
trannies are mentally unstable and highly irrational

>>1846857
Because this was all a ploy to shake money and attention from quarmtards in the first place when he turns quarm back on and everyone treats him like a hero and donates fat stacks. Also he’s never gonna going to pay back the gofundme money either that was just a pure lie. Deceit is legitimately the core nature of a tranny, never forget that.

>>1847076
damn that makes sense. birdnose and nestmate will be laughing xhemselves all the way to the bank soon enough

>>1849147
I feel bad for their neighbors, imagine seeing two mentally ill grown men in dresses calling each other wife but they're actually both gay husbands to each other in gay ass man voices

no wonder he named himself secrets cause he knew he was secretly gay for his entire life

This subtle shifting of the quarm disc avatar seems so silly.

>>1849627
what does it mean?

lmao

>>1849776
Donation link will be up within a week of server restart, daybreak doesnt care and he knows it

>>1849822
yep him and his "wife" (husband) need more money for uber eats meals and man dresses

>Another thread with zero game discussion only seething about trannies.
mental illness

>>1841149 (OP)
Hey fellas, where is everyone playing at, server wise?
Or rather, what are the best regarded options by anons in the know?
Thanks

>>1850262
calm down xer

>>1850327
The most popular server is overwhelmingly the heroes journey

>>1850327
THJ and P99

>>1850262
Reminder to report and ignore off-topic posts. :)

Feels like I’ve been waiting for official ssf for THJ for an eternity, now in limbo forever. It’s over bros.

>>1850675
>thj tries to push streamers to gain popularity
>it gets them under daybreaks radar who puts them in a legal chasity belt
the irony is pretty good desu

>>1850705
yeah it really is a fuckin shame that they couldnt leave well enough alone, idk what the fuck they were thinking by basically just declaring all out war on daybreak

>>1850707
well cata is a jew so they were thinking how can i line my pockets

>>1850708
>singular they
go back to quarm

>>1850723
its not a singular they when its a response to the question "what were they thinking?"

>>1850725
you referred to a single person. the post you were replying to was referring to THJ staff as a whole. get rekt tranny lover

>>1850726
you are illiterate and possibly brown

>>1850733
that's a mirror, secrets

>>1850708
Lmao uh oh, you struck a nerve with the schitzo calling out THJ for being the Jews they are.

>>1850779
it's schizo, my ESL friend. also i don't give a shit about THJ. cata obviously is a jew.

>hours of conversation nuked again after a pity farm meltdown
absolutely pathetic, stick to p99 if you value your time at all

>>1850835
lol what did king troon do now

>>1850786
>calling out someone who mistyped a word

>>1850850
kind of funny how he did the icon changing shenanigans only to admit this morning quarm still wont be back up for weeks
couple of the boomers were jumping on him in discord for it, what a literal loser.

>>1851008
im just amazed theres anyone left to even put up with his nonsense lmao

>>1851008
post the screen shots

Where do I play this now

>>1851440
p99 if you're mentally ill, alkabor if you mow your lawn every week if it needs it or not or quarm if you're a chick with a dick

>quarm discord trannies still running damage control over king troon's latest fuck up
kek

>>1852107
>alkabox
no thanks LMAO

>>1852227
redpill me on the most recent chirping from birdnose

>>1852227
the boomers are fuming thats for sure like I told his dumbass before he needs to learn to shut the fuck up and be like rogean

>>1852325
the discord server icon countdown to nothing troll

>>1852661
kek so it really was a nothing burger? how did birdnose think people would be okay with that?

>>1852665
>trying to understand the rationale of a mentally ill man who thinks he's a woman

>>1852818
i keep saying these people should be case studied but i guess that makes me a bigot!

so quarm is the anti social loser boomer server where every loser solos with fungi? yikes

Friend and I run a private EQemu server set to PoP. Want to make a QoL/casual-friendly server with better balance: no fungi, equip-clickies, etc. Quarm's lack of balance hurt its longevity.

Core ideas:
- Priests of Discord provide binds + 1-charge Gate stone (NoDrop/Lore)
- Wizard spire NPCs sell no-rent teleport scrolls (1-charge, zone-specific)
- Disable Timorous/Luclin/PoP teleport rooms (ports still work)
- Buffed newbie weapons (~fine steel stats)
- Start with 25 skill points (train to 10 in one weapon, 15 spare)
- No exp/loot loss under L10

Legacy items drop as nerfed versions only. May implement dungeon-wide loot pools.

Balance tweaks:
- "Finesse" weapons (piercing) scale off Dex
- Bows use 2H DMG table (Dex-based)
- Other buffs/sidegrades to shake up meta

Early stage - might not launch. If we do:
Closed alpha end of summer invite beta fall target Xmas launch
PoP-locked with progressive level caps

Feedback welcome.

>>1853013
you would legit destroy quarm if you did this

>>1853013
id add some kind of rule about boxing, ideally preventing it. otherwise looks solid

>>1853013
>Bows use 2H DMG table (Dex-based)
No! Bows are strength weapons! https://youtu.be/Gb6ATAd5iBg?si=4cFq1-TxnHeJ7R5d

>>1853013
give the wrist pouch 8 slots. there is literally no reason for it to be only 4 slots. the fact that it can only fit tiny items covers the fact that it is small.
The devs really fucked that one up, clearly their thought was process was "derr it's small so it only has 4 slots."
If Brad wasn't dead I'd grill him about this design decision.

>>1852903
Apart from downtime per kill, in addition, soloing is more efficient because I do not have to organize a group of hopefully not a bunch of retards. At best I log in and get right to it.

So handing out these huge quality of life tunics skews the game against grouping undoing part of what EQ once was. I don't like Quarm for that, too much instant gratification to my taste. Perhaps one can argue this forced grouping was always a bad thing, and that this is an improvement over the old game.

>>1853013
>Wizard spire NPCs sell no-rent teleport scrolls (1-charge, zone-specific)
So how does this work? I buy a GF-scroll at the GF spires and at any time I can use that to return to the GF spires? Don't make those too cheap. What's the cast time on these things?

I think these rules overcome the low player density issues and the newbie grinding pains, making the game friendlier and are not that much altering the EQ experience.

>Legacy items drop as nerfed versions only
I do think a very small amount of unnerfed legacy items adds flavor, but you're not doing some time progression and everyone would farm them, so adding those won't make sense. Would a 1-in-100 chance at the unnerfed item work or would people just permacamp that (for example) circlet-of-shadow 24/7?

>>1853013
im not sure if you are trying to make a competitor or go in your own direction, but if you trying to get the quarm audience then you are going to need instances and the anti-bottlenecking measures. even then zeal is such an immense qol tool its going to be hard to compete with. secrets takes zeal for granted, i dont think he realizes the only reason he even has a server is because of it. its pretty funny that the reason most people are so dedicated to quarm is because of something secrets didnt even create himself. the amount of qol it offers (in addition to the camera of course) is going to be impossible to compete with. if you want to appeal to p99 and thj players then you will need enforced single-box. godspeed anon.

>>1852903
solo is still way slower, mobs in dungeons respawn fast and with a decent squad(has enchanter) you chew up whole zones and blow through dungeons in 0 time

plus even with fungi melee solo xp is worse than casters after very early levels, by a lot too

>>1853352
>forced grouping was always a bad thing
its only a bad thing because people are chimps and take advantage of it
>that guy constantly going afk with nonsense like "brb wife agro tee hee"
>that guy constantly medding at fm
>that guy who blows his mana so he can go afk
>buffs falling off because no one is tracking them
>healer watching netflix
>tank and puller are doing 99% of the work every group
>suddenly everyone is alert when the looties drop
its no surprise people choose to do all the work themselves if it means they receieve all the benefits of a full group

>>1853683
a lot of it is for these exact reasons even, if i cant dedicate a solid block of time its better to just solo so i dont piss people off if i have to suddenly leave or go afk for a while

>>1853742
yeah good point. i forgot just how big of a time investment it is to get anything done with a group

>>1853013
>pop era with sensible changes
Enforce single box and let me say nigger and I will donate to your server costs.

>>1853683
I'm usually the tank/puller or both so I pay attention to who is messing around, I will silently kick them and replace them in a heart beat the moment I notice.
I had a druid who ended up buffing and background healing my group for hours because he was such a lazy retard he didn't notice I kicked him the moment I noticed his bullshit afk tactics

>>1853863
>I will silently kick them and replace them in a heart beat the moment I notice.
definitely nice when you can do this but if youre forced to join another group just to get a camp then gg
>he was such a lazy retard he didn't notice
sounds like literal bot behavior but i can also see eq leechers being this bad and/or stupid kek

>>1853855
Same. Moderating speech is gay af when filters and ignore exist.

>>1853919
>people get upset about harrassment when theres an ignore feature
>people get upset about the word nigger while playing a game filled with racism

>>1853922
I probably won't even say it. I just want to know that I can.

>>1853905
>solb royals
>paladin tank
>sits down and camps midpull without a word
>comes back 20 minutes later
>tells a group member who asked that he had a guild emergency
>30 seconds camping with zero communication
i gotta SAY
it was pretty GAY

>>1853962
didn't mean to quote

>>1853922
you can harass people plenty of ways in eq even if you are blocked, have you ever played the game? also nobody ever has a problem with someone just randomly saying nigger one time in a conversation or whatever, happens all the time irl if you are around excitable people, if anything others will blow it off as cringe, but thats not what people do they just spam NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER in chat all day until they get banned and then make retarded posts about freedom of speech. worlds apart.

>>1854258
you can punish spamming and being an insufferable faggot without banning people just for saying gamer words you disingenuous nigger. also
>also nobody ever has a problem with someone just randomly saying nigger one time in a conversation or whatever
what reality do you live in? it certainly isn't this one.

>>1854269
I live in reality, you live on the internet and you think people act the same way irl as they do online. I guarantee if you go in public somewhere and just scream nigger everyone will side eye you and think you are cringe but very rarely will anybody do or say anything. Even in HEAVILY moderated games like league you don’t get action taken against your account for saying nigger one time randomly. Remember the Burger King crown guy doing this exact thing on airplanes? And even then he wasnt removed for doing it once he was removed for screaming it over and over again at the top of his lungs trying to cause a scene. Also I’m curious to hear what genius alternative you have to punish spamming besides muting and/or banning. Also good job ignoring the entire point of my first statement you retarded fuck.

>>1854353
well you are just wrong bro, drop one single nigger in any game chat nowdays and its ban time, sometimes even perma

people are insufferable report faggots nowadays

>>1854353
>I live in reality, you live on the internet and you think people act the same way irl as they do online. I guarantee if you go in public somewhere and just scream nigger everyone will side eye you and think you are cringe but very rarely will anybody do or say anything
We're talking about video games. No shit people are generally spineless irl, but if anything could give people the courage to speak up it absolutely is uttering the forbidden N word. I'm married with 3 kids I'm not some neet who never goes outside (no offense to my neet brothers).
>Even in HEAVILY moderated games like league you don’t get action taken against your account for saying nigger one time randomly.
Yes you do. You're just asking people to ignore obvious reality. I don't understand what your game is here.
>Also I’m curious to hear what genius alternative you have to punish spamming besides muting and/or banning
Those are the solutions, idiot.

>>1854258
>nobody ever has a problem with someone just randomly saying nigger one time in a conversation or whatever
okay so go to the ecl tunnel or wherever people congregate on your server and say it then

>>1853922
on quarm men in dresses get upset when you call them dude or bro even if you use it in a general sense

>1853063
That’s the exact niche we’re targeting.
>>1853088
No multi-boxing. We want to preserve the classic solo-box feel, like P99.
>>1853265
If we dive deeper into mods, we’d address minor but persistent complaints (e.g., quivers in ranged slots). For now, we’re focusing on major fixes and a few personal tweaks. Def want to look into balancing long standing complaints tho.
>>1853352
The scroll idea replaces NPC porters—either LORE (tradable but no stacks) or NO RENT (disappear on logout). Pricing would be a modest plat sink. The convenience of a Wiz hanging out in EC would still beat having to make a run to a spire to buy a port scroll.
>Unnerfed legacy items?
Most were removed for good reason imo, but rare exceptions (events, etc.) could work.
>>1853482
Right now, it’s just us testing EQEMU’s flexibility. Surprised nobody’s tried this balance/QoL approach before. something like zeal and instanced servers are def in our wishlist
>>1853855
Official stance: Use the word filter and block feature.
I'm not interested in policing speech. We couldn’t care less.
Ultimately, ideas, wishlists, balance, etc are awesome if you all want to share. (4ch is literally the only place I'm even discussing it atm, I trust the anonymity of this place to encourage honest & harsh opinions)

Some other thoughts:
Rested exp (its possible in the code)
My overall theory rn tho, beyond qol shit is balance patching. sticking with buffing weak classes and avoiding nerfing stuff. (except maybe some items).
Its encouraging seeing a decent response here too. Thanks for the interest. You fags will be the first to be invited too the closed beta/end of alpha if we decide to go there.

>quarm has a test server up
>all of a sudden talk of a "super secret giga server here"
>4chan anons first to be invited
be weary lads could be birdnose trying to sniff out IPs

>>1854787
>a tranny might find out that my IP said nigger online
oh no

>>1854737
If your official stance is going to be to tell people to use block/ignore then please for the love of god remove the cap on the ignore list and make it account wide. Take in to consideration that you can’t right click and block in eq you have to actually type the name so barcode names and such can make it difficult to actually do a /ignore successfully. Also you are going to have to “police speech” against spamming whether you like it or not since you can make 10 separate game accounts under each eqemu account.

>>1854837
those mentally ill retards go above and beyond to harass people is the issue

>>1853677
leveling on p99 as enchanter I never found a (full) group that came even close to the exp I could get solo charming. Duo charming with a healer or something was safer and as good as solo though.

>As a result of our discussion, we have entered into a written agreement with Daybreak Game Company LLC.
>Project Quarm will also be fast-forwarding the server to Luclin when it returns.
>As part of the agreement Project Quarm was asked by Daybreak Game Company to implement a Player Cap of 1200 players
>we were asked to remove specific items as part of our agreement. These are the following items:
>Custom Zones:
Myriah's Domain
Shard of Decay
Plane of Injustice
Fireclad Ocean
>Custom Raid Encounters:
Khati Sha
>Custom Player Race and Class Unlocks
Iksar Rogue (quest) and their related items / NPCs
Iksar Ranger (quest) and their related items / NPCs
Wood Elf Beastlord (quest) and their related items / NPCs
Barbarian Paladin (quest) and their related items / NPCs
Froglok Race (and their associated graphical updates and illusion items)
>Features:
Item tinting/armor fixes
>Custom Expansion: Terror of Sul
Gone Completely
>some incomplete quests

Quarm got neutered.

>>1854887
yep but its still a gay fun server for tranny men who play 24/7

>>1854887
doesn't seem to bode well for THJ

>>1854887
>Item tinting
does this mean no more pinkicite?

also when did these custom zones get added? i stopped playing just before kunark

>>1854962
gayicite gets auto converted to normal rubi

I would rather play eq2 as someone's healer/chanter.

>>1855019
>eq2 P99 equivalent server never ever

>>1854887
So they made him remove any custom content and any content from future expansions that he added early, which is why he's jumping to Luclin on relaunch. lmao

>>1854887
It’s not really neutered since nobody cares about his custom content. The only big deal is the 1200 player cap but I’m not sure quarm is hitting 1200 players anyway.

>>1854787
>everyone is birdnose
You're literally unhinged

>>1854887
This just shows DBG is uninterested in fixing or improving the game.
An artificial pop cap is just the most damning part here.
Fuck birdnose for this, he basically set back the private server community with this, as it'll be used as a template for future agreements.

THJ is a bunch of greedy Jews, but now I'm hoping they win because this is beyond retarded.
Birdnose helped set a precedent here and it'll be used in court vs THJ and other private servers.

>>1855294
Remember to report and ignore off-topic posts. :D

>>1854737
Serveranon what's your take on this Quarm deal?

>>1855261
I was going to say, why do so many boomers think the server is going to break 1200 for luclin? the server had been slowly dying for awhile now with peaks mainly hitting 800 or so

I also imagine a lot of people might not wanna come back because they're losing content tons of barb paladins are whining just search "barbarian paladin" in the quarm discord and there's a sea of complaints
Luclin is also the beginning to the end of port farming dosh and the bazaar destroys all EC tunnel rats.

>>1854887
i dont believe he even talked to daybreak. this is all just another grift

>>1855317
could be
he just happen to magically have a mental break down the day he took the server down "in good faith" and leave his own discord.
He knows the playerbase hates his buggy shit tier custom zones also and he knows having a "legal agreement" will get the quarm losers all giddy to continue slaving away on a EZ mode EQ private server.
Also was a chance to accelerate velious to try and reel in tlp losers who prefer the bad side of EQ

>>1855322
he also never gave a damn about permission until it gave him an opportunity to benefit

nah I believe it. Among his many delusions is the belief that he is a legitimate game developer working in "the industry," so he doesn't want to ruffle any feathers.

>>1855328
I laugh when I see him bring up his future "mobile game" mmo.
100% DOA

lmao

>>1855356
>eq server gets in trouble with sony
>plans to make his own game
>never happens
story as old as time

>>1855356
>saying this while tarnishing everquest with his grift server
>saying this when hes proven he is irresponsible with his money
>saying this when he couldnt even fix a simple camera bug
i get hes delusional but i feel like at some point common sense has to prevail

>>1855370
but anon he "works in the industry"

>>1854877
Just block them, snowflake

>>1855322
>Also was a chance to accelerate velious
i hate this most of all. I stopped just as kunark came out, but was thinking I'd go on again for velious. I never really got to experience it on live. but now fuck it
>>1855317
>i dont believe he even talked to daybreak
it certainly wasn't some zoom meeting that everyone is probably imagining. he probably sent an email, then had to wait weeks for a reply, and then for a list of demands/stipulations

>>1855427
velious is overrated desu. just a bunch of faction grinding that you take turns nuking to cycle between raid targets and their turn in rewards. ntov takes way too fucking long to clear since velious started the meme of "big hp pools = hard content" which only got worse in luclin

>>1854887
what was Terror of Sul?

>>1855455
Some fake custom expansion after PoP he offered to cut that he was never going to make anyway

>>1854887
>Quarm got neutered.
These are all good changes asides player cap. Custom content shit was gayer than secrets, glad to see it gone.
Just delicious. What's your next prediction, negrodamus? Quarm won't make it to pop like it wasn't supposed to make it to Kunark?

>>1855713
>he plays on a literal troon server
nta but yikes bro

>>1855745
>nta but yikes bro
Projection is strong with this one. Don't need to log on to the fag's server to see it's winning or how this is playing out. Just glance at these threads that get bumped when they hit pg 9
>Quarm will die before Kunark
>Quarm will die due to secret's GoFundMe nonsense
>Quarm will die before velious
>Quarm will die to thj nonsense
>Quarm will die before SoL
You are here
>Quarm will die before pop
Ironically daybreak telling secrets to ditch custom shit was the best thing to happen to it.

>>1855886
>Just glance at these threads that get bumped when they hit pg 9
This is one of the more active threads on this board, but go off.

>>1855908
>active threads
No need to play coy. Just wait a few days and these will be back to mah Freeport pics and what's a good first class? posts when people stop replying and it almost drops off the page repeatedly like the last year+
>go off
You have to go back.

>>1855925
>champions troon servers
>dunks on the activity of a thread for a 25 year old MMO on one of the slowest 4chan boards
idk bro I think you're kinda gay

>>1854882
p99 enchanter is totally broken though so dont compare it to actual servers with somewhat correct mechanics

>>1855886
no one ever said any of that you loser boomer, lmao
I bet you ERP with birdnose aka man in a dress secrets

>>1855953
wouldn't be surprised if he was secrets doing a bit of self-deprecating to throw off the scent

>>1855964
probably, he has been caught a few times trying to lurk here with his weirdo creeper ass

>>1855261
>>1855311
peaks for primetime us were always 1200+ now with AA's people will grind before/after raids. Why they couldn't have gotten 1500 to secure their active player base is beyond me they picked a number that is going to cause a lot of drama. Guess we'll see.

>>1856229
it might since luclin is coming out but prime time hasnt hit 1200 for awhile
THJ shit all over quarm on top of people only playing during EXP pot weeks

I wonder how many times that sperg retard has samefagd himself in this thread.

>>1856238
regularly logged into 1400+ during 9pm est

>>1856258
Sure you did

>>1856256
secrets is terminally online so he probably samefags a lot

>>1856264
Are you a moron? Almost 800 average players when most people log on for 3 hours to raid and log off.

>>1856359
almost 800 isnt 1400 you retard
also secrets lies and player count still adds mules this was tested already by a few boomers in the quarm discord

>>1856364
HAHAHAHA holy shit you're dumb

>>1856368
says the retard who is blind and can't count
maybe your the third wheel for mister secrets and his husband robyn

>>1855886
>daybreak telling
they didnt tell him anything. this is just a ruse to get more donations for "bringing the server back"

I'm so fucking glad I made the choice to wait until at least Luclin before giving Quarm a chance. Can't wait to see how this all pans out, people that called out trusting a brand new tranny server might end up being vindicated.

Is anyone on the discord freaking out over the player cap chopping off the legs of any potential of the server's future growth? Is it all just cope or did they really think the server wouldn't pick up past Velious/P99?

>>1855953
>no one ever said any of that you loser boomer
>>1856405
>people that called out trusting a brand new tranny server might end up being vindicated.

The duality of man. Took only a dozen posts, lol >>1855953
Quarm is the Just The Two More Weeks of emus and it's so funny how pissed they get.

>>1856433
yap yap yap

>>1856433
Are you okay bro? Instead of seething, care to explain how Secrets already talking about working on a new game should instill confidence in this server?

>>1856405
>people that called out trusting a brand new tranny server might end up being vindicated.
I don't see how. the server has been up long enough to have a full well rounded EQ experience. there has been plenty of opportunity to level multiple characters and experience all kinds of content.
that's what I did, and I've moved on.

>>1856450
Sorry hard to hear disingenuous faggots such as yourself over the two weeks chant and sound of your mom gargling ol'pa's anal froth. You can better familiarize yourself with other places then vbulletin and reddit by using the archives btw.

Or just have a break down like the last thread and get banned for posting gay porn in a rage. Be the change in the world you want to see lil buddy!

>>1856464
>more seething
>can't respond at all after being btfo

k

>>1856463
It hadn't even made it to Luclin yet. The TAKP source code is out there so if it does shit the bed someone will try again.
You're probably in the minority for a server built on the PoP era database but you do you.

>>1856464
calm down unc, think about your blood pressure.

>>1856469
But enough about this post
>>1856439
Concession accepted btw
Getting eq in /vm discussed without degenarating into seething about quarm by our schizo is like successfully spelling the alphabet on /b.

>>1856464
>Or just have a break down like the last thread and get banned for posting gay porn in a rage.
wait what

>>1856481
make sure to clean your adams apple on the way out mr man dress secrets

>/vm
>/b

>>1856475
The game ends at Luclin for me.
But the point is the server didn't collapse immediately because of a melty.

>>1856485
>wait what
Our resident schizo took a bit too much heat and posted some gay porn saying he'd kill us. Then vanished.
You can still see the blissful series of posts afterwards where eq was actually discussed in an eq thread without bird nose, troon, etc. mysteriously absent from the responses.

>>1856485
It's just schizo posting brother. Off topic seething.

Anyone have any thoughts on the aftermath of THJ? The server is open source right, wonder if someone in Russia, Iceland etc will just start a new one if it goes down.

>>1856504
they probably already have it planned to move hosting if it comes down to it
EQ can be played with high ping and you wont notice a difference

>>1856499
I think the major contributing factor to the focus on Quarm is that everything else is so stale. Green 2 never ever, Fangbreaker sucks, THJ could be forced to shut down at any moment so I'm not playing there rn. The only fresh topic is the Quarm freakshow. Serveranon did pierce the clouds with a ray of hope, however. I'd really like to see him follow through so we can have a sensibly run server locked to the best EQ era.

>>1856495
Then you're in the extreme minority for a PoP server. You don't matter in the discussion at hand.
I'm not sure if you understand the vast majority were waiting for PoP considering many people had early era private servers for years.

>>1856504
Nothing stops that from happening. Ping sucks as other anon said but it's eq so. Idk if people want to relevel as I didn't play thj but if 3k people played when it could get shut down anytime then some will play when it's 'safe' far away.

>>1856513
Imagine how angry secrets would be if someone else launched a server that didn't bother with the progression bullshit that everyone has played through a million times already and just started in PoP, taking a huge chunk of his players. Man that would be awesome and hilarious.

>>1856509
Practically all WoW pservers are hosted overseas and US players play with 100-200ms which is never a gamebreaking issue. EQ would definitely be less noticeable with how much slower it is.

>>1856509
>>1856515
What country is it hosted at now though? I assume it's a copyright friendly country since they got sued.

Someone else will have to host it though since I assume the current owners would still get fucked if they rehosted. Daybreak tlps must be dying big time if they're even bothering with this, I heard Fangbreaker is complete garbage.

>>1856523
I heard an interesting theory that Daybreak sabotaged Fangbreaker with this ruleset knowing they'd have poor numbers so they could claim more damages against THJ. The crux of the argument being they have to know another Teek would've gotten way more subs.

>>1856518
Honestly I'd just prefer if someone launched at least at Luclin. For me I think everything only truly goes to shit with Lost Dungeons, so I'm fine with some frog shit.

>>1856535
I just dislike how luclin and pop end up going the WoW route with easy travel bullshit but I do find the idea of AA's to be cool
I'd like to see vanilla-velious with AA's

>>1856538
That's fine, a lot of people are just sick of the boomers who won't shut the fuck up about PoP, even though P99 has been out for over a decade.
Some people can't move on and need to let everyone know that.

>>1856405
>people that called out trusting a brand new tranny server might end up being vindicated.
those people were vindicated a month or two after launch

>>1856542
let it go nigger we just stopped talking about quarm

>>1856545
>theres a time limit on responding to posts
lol?
>we just stopped talking about quarm
and youre drawing it out even more, great job

>>1856545
Stop responding to it.

>>1856542
yeah anyone with a brain fucked off early from that quarm shitshow
>shit tier community of terminally online loser boomer simps
>shit tier dev with mental illness and is a gay man in a dress married to another ugly man
smartchads are waiting on monsters and memories at this point

>to pop
>Instance raids
>Delete PoK, Nexus, maybe bazaar.
>Planer portals in appropriate zones like fear portal, pog are, instead
>Zem adjustments as needed
>No custom zones/item shit. Zeal stuff like less retarded camera, ok.
Now old world isn't abandoned. You see people traveling all the time. No over consolidation of a soulless hub zone, ports still relevant, etc.

>>1855309
>Serveranon what's your take on this Quarm deal?
I think its kind of a betrayal for him to help create a standard like this. This reminds me a little of regulatory capture, I could imagine him tattling on any server that gets bigger than his own with this shit.
But for what it's worth, it isn't going to stop us if we move forward.

It was never gonna have custom content like Quarm has/had. It has always been more about a mostly vanilla experience with some QOL stuff, fixing some petpeeves/personal wishlists and class buffing/balancing/fixing.

As before tho, its fun talking about my ideas but I don't want to get hopes up, just sharing some thoughts, getting some ideas and seeing if we have the desire (or a community interest) to move ahead.
Rn, we are just getting everything up to pop running and test implementing some of our ideas.
Good thing is EQEMU is really easy

>>1856558
Serveranon, hire this man!

Give me a QRD on EQ Requium
https://youtu.be/YAyKqrBnEk0

think it's gonna be worthwhile if it can run on any browser?

>>1856513
>Then you're in the extreme minority for a PoP server. You don't matter in the discussion at hand.
Still doesn't change the fact the server didn't collapse immediately because of a melty.

>>1853013
>>1856563
I'd be interested in playing this if you get it up. I was actually thinking of hosting a qol EQ server a little while back but decided to wait and see if FF11 Eden ever releases their source code still. All of the 11 servers are all over the fucking place, I just really want a classic like server without no lifer rates or rates boosted to the moon.

>see what people are saying about quarm and secrets on the THJ discord
>see this
THJ is pretty based not going to lie

>>1856582
>man who is already known for crashing out and abandoning his projects
>same man begins to believe he is a woman trapped in a man's body
>starts a new project
>only other staff is his gay "husband" who also believes he is a woman trapped in a man's body
>anons are hesitant to invest their time in said project
Just because Quarm defied the odds doesn't mean it wasn't prudent to avoid it.

>>1856582
Not sure why you reposted this again replying to my post but not addressing it? Seems like the one having a meltdown is you anon.
The game doesn't end at Luclin just because you're upsetty, okay? Tell the class where Luclin raped you.

>>1856597
yeah not so much. where's that guy who was saying you can say nigger in games without catching a ban? can't even call a man a man without be threatened with action.

>>1856616
without being*

>>1856600
He took advantage during a severe server drought while also abusing the P99 forums to advertise
>at the time no new TLP was available
>people were really rowdy for green 2.0
>withheld information such as turning it into a EZ mode server and adding really poorly implemented custom content pulling a bait and switch on people expecting an actual true to live timeline progression server

He originally advertised on the P99 forums (didn't even have a website, he did all advertising on P99 and just had a link to his discord) which ended up becoming a 51 page thread before one of the mods finally realized he was grifting hard and locked it.

He also didn't reveal he was a man in a dress until launch day on level up larrys stream but by then the boomers were enthralled and just dying to play a fresh classic server that would eventually time lock up to PoP.

He rode the coat tails of P99 at the right moment, something anyone could have taken advantage of but it takes a disgusting sneaky little faggot weasel to go through with it which he is.

>>1856621
>2002-era combat formulas, accurate to Planes of Power

lol

>>1856621
Quick correction the thread is actually 83 pages, got thrown off by the initial 51 page cut off on the front page but it goes up to 83.
Which funny enough the last page is people bringing up when he gave Zaide a fungi during classic era and a lot of red flags starting showing.

This general has one of the worst newfag shitposters I have seen in a general. And this includes years-old /vg/ shitposters that camp a thread 24/7. At least they're not spamming and bumping a thread LITERALLY every hour or close to with the same exact lexicon.
>the thread
>one severely disabled newfag talking to ITself

>>1856616
looks like its a dorky discord mod but in-game OOC seems to be FFA none of those people stating the truth were actioned or told to stop.

>>1856636
Zaide is a gigantic faggot as well, but this is pretty fucking fresh coming from them. So many private servers are corrupt as shit and P99 isn't exactly a beacon of ethics.

>>1856642
>every post I don't like is a samefag

>use the same newfag buzzwords like every other newfag over the last 15 years
>"nobody will know it's me spamming the same two phrases muahahhaha"
cry and piss and shit yourself when you get banned again newfag nigger

>>1856658
who are you replying to?

>>1856661
It's literally just the same quarm schizo seething for hours, ignore.

>>1856651
yeah zaides a faggot and so is secrets which is why they were obviously in bed together
it was weird af secrets gave him a fungi and someone had to see him in game wearing it after he got done raiding to bring it up.
Up to that point secrets was a loud mouth about every little shitty thing on his server so it was weird he was hush hush about a CSR getting caught fucking around and giving out a fungi during classic era.

Also didn't help that PF just happen to get a ton of favoritism already up to that point

>>1856674
Honestly didn't even know he played on Quarm, the only time I ever heard about him was shilling tlp's. I don't really follow most of that shit I just assume most private servers for games are corrupt as shit, I'm always eventually proven right.

>>1856674
why would outting a CSR warrant a reward?

>>1856703
I guess to encourage snitching them out? Probably in the past you would just get the corrupt gm to gift you shit.

>>1856683
with fake power comes fake responsibility

>>1856597
i mean yeah thats what everyone is thinking but cant say in the quarm discord

>>1856642
its embarrassing, non-stop Quarm and tranny seethe

>>1856658
making dozens of posts seething like this while saying other people are shitting up the threads is some impressive work

>>1856558
This is honestly genius and would entice the classic crowd for sure.

>>1857077
non-stop facts and truth dumps*
ftfy mr gay man

>>1856558
This is unironically the ideas/routes we have for our server.
Wasn't sure how people felt about revamping the retail luclin and pop portals tho, so hadn't brought it up until we were further along.

I've had some thoughts on the trading too. Ending the afk traders, but giving incentives to trade and socialize in specific zones/areas. Like limiting general (server wide chat), and trade chat to cities and EC only (maybe a few others as well).
Just some ideas anyway. Nothing set in stone.
But I def 100% want to limit or remove the retail porting mechanics from luc/pop.
Its a fundamental design philosophy in our opinions.
Shout can be modded to be a local type chat, with maybe slightly farther range than /say.
Tells and group and guild would stay server wide for convenience.

>>1857138
idk it still feels abandoned even by kunark, eq devs abandoned the old world as soon as kunark launched because they wanted to sell expansions

just look at how the rebalance weapon ratios but dont bother updating any of the old loot, the message is clear, go to kunark and ignore all the old dungeons

>>1857221
If money is ever the limiting factor in you starting this server please post here and I'll help out.

>>1857221
I don't like the idea of limiting chat, since that just drives even more discussion out of game to Discord. I also like the Bazaar, but losing it isn't a deal breaker.

>>1857221
REMOVE MOUNTS

>>1857221
This sounds kino and yeah keeping EC tier trading is just too soulful.
Please sometimes it's nice seeing drive-by deals in off zones too, I've picked up really good items while out in the wild from people who just didn't want to spend time in the tunnel.
Always keep a nice chunk of plat on you for those sweet deals.

>>1857414
Thank you for that. I think we'd fund the first year no problem, but we've discussed donations for better hardware if it came down to it.
>>1857602
>>1857638
Those trading ideas are my ideas. My friends are ambivalent on the afk trading in luclin, that's my personal crusade really, so that's just some personal ideas I've had.
>>1857614
Indeed. We haven't discussed it but I def think it should be considered to remove them.
Luc and Pop are so full of content. Its just a few things that squander the culture and soul of the game, and we want to remedy that and keep it closer to classic in those instances.

And please guys, offer some personal ideas. I'm curious what everyone else thinks. Its easy for me to armchair here, but I do think community opinions would help.

>>1841149 (OP)
>>1841337
i played EQ before maps were added, i navigated via landmarks and zone walls and just knowing every turn in neriak and nektulos and the sewers of freeport, where everything was in kelethin, all by heart. i can still run straight to the bank, etched into my mind.

>>1856556
I get they're basically remaking EQ 1:1 in a different world, but they couldn't at least add sheathed weapons when not in combat? This kind of autistic adherence to every little detail of nostalgia ends up making things less fun. I'm not saying this specific thing is a big deal, it's just indicative of the devs' attitude.

>>1857671
>offer some personal ideas
ive yet to see any version of eq do something about the outrageous health pool on luclin mobs so addressing that would be good if it hasnt already been mentioned. vex thal has some of the worst hp sponges ive ever seen and the retards running thj think spending 10 minutes to auto attack a boss to death while you go fold laundry is emergent gameplay

>>1857671
You're not going to fuck with corpse runs, right? For me the biggest letdown of THJ was zero death penalty whatsoever. I mean even the TLPs have XP loss at least.
Add SSF and hardcore options; not because I want to play that way, but because people seem to eat that shit up.

>>1857753
Alpha: just friends and I testing core functionality and stability of everything up to pop. And adding the more basic/easiest/least consequential changes mentioned above.
>also its our server so we play and run content together for fun. It may only ever go thus far desu.

Beta (fall, if it gets to that): limited open testing, stress tests etc. Implementation of some more complicated changes, balance feedback, beta tester suggestions etc. Goal is to have most of the qol and minor balance changes done in this phase as I've mentioned previously (POD binds etc).

Public launch: (around Thanksgiving/Christmas) ideally most/all of the core qol and balance changes are made, including nerfing Timorous, Luclin and POP travel (horses likely removed) & implementation of alt travel solutions; trading brought back to Norrath (even if we just moved afk trading to EC tunnel).

Post launch, we want to slowly go thru stuff like you've mentioned, balanced content, buffing classes etc.
It'll take time and prob require a more esoteric understanding of some of the luclin and pop raids which is where community would have to assist.
>we've only played p99 on and off over the years, with a little quarm very recently thru this past winter. The experience honestly left me wanting something better/different tho and so i set up this server and my friends joined.
Been messing around since May.

>>1856556
>>shit tier community of terminally online loser boomer simps
this is literally you

>>1857791
speaking about you stung a bit huh?

>>1857802
they're not the ones wasting their time here

I bet we see an official multiclass server from Daybreak next year. That's the real reason they're going after THJ. They see how successful it is and want that money for themselves, as they should desu.

>>1858053
They think people are going to play on their live servers if emulated servers are no longer an option, which is delusion.

>>1858087
They'll pay for multiclassing if THJ is shut down.

>>1858096
that's like saying I'd pay for your mom if the local whorehouse shut down

>>1858208
You probably would you sick fuck

Fangbreaker is..........................fun

>>1858096
>delusional Daybreakfag

>>1858208
>>1858506
Yeah because gamers are a principled group with strong impulse control and never give their money to a developer who has wronged them
lol
lmao even

>>1858508
>yeah because I live in a vacuum where Everquest is the only MMO to have ever offered private servers
"lol"
"lmao even"
can't wait to see whatever newfag dismissal you type next!

>>1858511
what?

>>1858503
Yeah I'm enjoying it, but I'm an altoholic who doesn't care about raiding so it's almost perfect for me. This ruleset plus free trade would be my perfect server.

>>1858503
>>1858529
Also in case you don't know about it there's a player run site that updates the bonus zones every day https://fangbreaker.zone/

>>1857671
definitely do EC trading.
AFK trading comes from the gamer instinct to optimize. And as we know, gamers will optimize the fun out of a game if given the chance, like how a dog will eat themselves to sickness if given unlimited food.

>>1858703
i agree but afk trading is nice if there is a low pop

>>1854737
You're using TAKP I assume.

>>1858508
Yep look at all the dumbass boomers who play shitty quarm out of pure addiction when man in a dress secrets has shown a million redflags

>>1859063
so what if its run by an unstable tranny? all servers shutdown someday and quarm is pretty good

only autistic idiots care about a server getting wiped and i really doubt that quarm wont at least make it a year or two into pop anyway

Should I get into this game in 2025 if I never played it before? I was thinking of making a barbarian rogue but apparently rogues can't solo

>>1859129
lmao anyway

>>1859293
iksar necro and halfling druid are the basic bitch new player solo classes

>>1857765
>You're not going to fuck with corpse runs, right?
not at all. my design theory is that the core difficulty and core experience is good. but modernization thru qol life changes, balance changes, better UI, etc is a worthy goal.
I feel strongly that the changes to travel, trading etc in luc and pop were detrimental to the "lived in world" experience and I want to revert those changes as best i can while keeping most of the rest of the game intact.
I do have a strong opinion however that boosted exp in some manner should be added, whether thru rested exp, a flat server exp buff, weekend exp bonuses, etc

>>1858703
>>1858765
I do not like afk trading and I'd like to find an alternative if i can make it happen, but its a low priority given its a personal wishlist item and we have a lot of other things to do

>>1859028
>You're using TAKP I assume.
Nope, using eqemu atm. i tried both and eqemu just worked. I actually favored TAKP at first, but the design theory around it is based on the older code which means youre limited in newer options. its like a timecapsule (and its less stable in some things).
eqemu just worked for me so i stuck with it.
We are not looking to make an era perfect server, so after some time messing with takp on my personal pc we decided to stick with eqemu when we bought our VPS because its easier to disable new stuff in eqemu, than try and add stuff in takp.

>>1859293
What server are you planning to play on?
>>1859362
>its easier to disable new stuff in eqemu, than try and add stuff in takp.
That's interesting. I definitely would've thought it would be easier the other way around, but that's great because fuck the TAKP client.

>>1859318
??? have a problem with what i said? game gets stale after a year of no content anyway, who cares if king troon pulls the plug after it gets bored

>>1859336
every halfling druid is such a faggot on every server nowadays
they use to be chill a decade ago but now only min max giga faggots play them

>>1857719
M&M is kind of a misguided shitshow. It runs like ass and the city they've been using to test the game is like 8x the size of Freeport with a layout that is far less intuitive. Everything looks the god damn same so navigating is a huge pain in the ass.
Some newbie "turn in the tunic" quests take 10 minutes and others take 3 hours of wandering around aimlessly to find everything. There's no sense heading - they tell you to just look at the sun, but if it's 10am/2pm or you can't see the sun due to tall buildings you're basically stuck waiting around to figure out which direction you're facing.
There are plenty of things that EQ got wrong that its contemporaries like FFXI and DAOC got right. Melee classes having buttons is one of them. Sheathed weapons is another.

>>1859336
Both look cool, specifically the first as I like to larp as evil
>>1859372
P99, I've heard the other pserv is maintained by degenerates

>>1859685
Pretty much any pure melee class solo is torture in classic EQ. Necro is probably the easiest/has a lot of tools that compliment that playstyle really well.

>>1859685
If P99 is too grindy for you and you're not poor, the official TLP Fangbreaker is a good choice for new players imo.

>>1859293
Mage is unironically best for new players.
Pets solo for you until 50, with no complicated mechanics.
It lets you learn the game and farm gear to lvl 50 with little stress.
And so despite their pets falling off at 50+ they're still useful to a group as they're just a simple DPS class, so you're not a pariah in the late game like necros and druids are.

Necro/druid are stronger solo classes later but they're not wanted in groups.
That's a big "oof" after spending a while learning and leveling.
Play what makes you happy, but if you want to learn the game, try a Mage. They're stupid easy to pick up.

>>1859754
>mage better than necro in group content
>necro not wanted in end game groups
Don’t ever give advice in this thread again.

>>1859293
>>1859805
See, these kinda of players right here. Ancient know it all boomers who care more about min-maxing than anything else and have sucked all the fun out of the game for themselves and the community

It doesn't bother me personally, how they are, because they clearly have literally nothing else, and they've spent the majority/entirety of their adult lives on private servers stuck in a three expansion time capsule. But you REALLY do not want to listen to them or allow their sick and pitiable mindset to infect yours, because you'll just hate the game like they do.

>>1859362
>I do have a strong opinion however that boosted exp in some manner should be added, whether thru rested exp, a flat server exp buff, weekend exp bonuses, etc
My opinion on this is TAKP's rates (slightly faster than actual PoP era) plus rested XP would be a nice sweet spot.

>>1859809
Youre literally just straight lying to someone saying that necros are end game pariahs and not desired by groups. It has absolutely nothing to do with optimization. Disingenuous fuck.

>>1859816
I was under the impression that necros were some of the best dps around and had good group utility and solo capability

>>1859754
necros are just mages but better in every way though, oh wow their nukes suck, who gives a shit

they are even better at having pet tank, on account of the fact that they can actually heal theirs

>>1859850
they are. for some reason, people act like they do 0 damage "if mobs are dying too fast" as if the dots arent still doing damage up until the target dies. they also have nukes for anything thats not worth investing dots in and infinite mana which is obviously valuable for a caster dps

So it turns out Ali of Monsters & Memories was paying for Quarm's hosting. Now Rogean is taking over because Daybreak is "more comfortable" with that. So really the main reason why Quarm didn't go under is because Secrets wasn't actually the one on the hook for the server.

>>1860001
sounds like schizo babble to me, provide proofs please

>>1860028
No.

>>1860001
thats even more sad because I've seen faggot secrets even say "I pay out of pocket for the server"

sucks ali helped that loser, most of the M&M staff has made fun of quarm during live streams and they would rather have green 2

>>1859632
yep and there's like a million bland open buildings with nothing in them.

Literally just remake Qeynos the most SOVLFUL mmo city in history

There are people who play on THJ who claim to hate multiboxers. Sometimes I think about this and laugh.

>>1860432
i played on thj and hate multiboxing, its an annoying chore and it ruins server communities

>>1860478
It's fine to hate multiboxing yourself because you don't enjoy it, but THJ is just condensing the power of multiboxing into a single character. No one groups there. Don't delude yourself.

>>1860432
I'm TRVEBOXING a Paladin and Necro on Fangbreaker rn

>>1860432
i dont understand your post. thj removes the need to box, so it will naturally draw in people who dislike boxing.

>>1860567
I said multiboxers, not multiboxing. As you said, THJ just gives everyone the multiboxing experience on one character. It's really no different than playing on unlimited boxing servers where everyone just boxes several characters to accomplish the same things you do on THJ.

>>1860579
i hate multiboxing AND people who enjoy multiboxing(insane people)

its not fun, unlike multiclass, which is

>>1860579
>It's really no different than playing on unlimited boxing servers
it is though because you're still playing only one character like you would in any version of everquest. theres no need to install software to control more than one at a time, set up macros so characters follow you, etc. even with all the shortcuts you can use to control extra characters, its still vastly less effort on thj and arguably not remotely similar to a multiboxing experience

>>1860591
You're still not understanding. I get why some people don't enjoy multiboxing themselves. I'm talking about the people who hate multiboxers out of principle because it "ruins the community" yet play on a server that gives them the same isolated experience as one that allows boxing. Everybody who isn't on P99 wants to play EQ without having to rely on other people, THJ just made it way more accessible to do so.

>>1859870
not to mention the primary DPS from a necro is the pet. everything else is a bonus.

>>1860600
typical retarded mentally ill multibox enjoying faggot

boxing is shit and not fun, playing solo on a server filled with multiboxers is awful too

notice how the only servers people care about don't allow boxing LMAO

>>1860623
>disingenuous bad faith newfag
>calling anyone else mentally ill
you heckin' owned him xDDD

>>1859632
>>1860426
>>1845646
>8x the size of Freeport
seems like they don't even understand EQ if this is what they got.
The nice thing about EQ cities, and many of the zones, is they feel like miniature models. like your adventuring around on some tabletop terrain a hobbyist made.
>>1857679
>i played EQ before maps were added, i navigated via landmarks and zone walls and just knowing every turn
So much this.
Not having GPS is still fun even if you have the maps memorized. It's more engaging to use your memory than just line up the arrow with the zone point.
>>1841337
>though really the zones are not that big and it mostly has an impact the first few times or in areas you dont go often
it's the act of using land marks and recognizing terrain that is fun, even with perfect memory
>>1841417
>I think a good middle ground is having a static map window
absolutely. the issue is the marker that pinpoints your position
>>1841622
agreed

>>1859816
He's not wrong, they will get picked up to fill spots if nothing else. Unless you have a reputation as attentive and knowledgeable in the class then that would change. Necros are able to survive and even thrive with the most aloof and braindead of people so they give the good ones a bad rap. Mostly because the good ones are soloing.
>Necro main.

>>1859754
I mained a druid and sold enough ports to fund a twink wizard. I hear PoP is where Wizards shine. Should I suck it up and give Quarm another try whenever it comes back up? This has been my first EQ experience and I'd much prefer to get it out of my system through leveling (and maining) an already twinked, prepared wizard than starting something like that from fucking scratch. Luclin would be completely new to me.

>>1859870
>this retard dots mobs in a group
>>1860617
>not to mention the primary DPS from a necro is the pet. everything else is a bonus.
lmfao

Garbage players, probably in garbage groups. Necros aren't in a group to be dps. Sure they have some passive dps but they're mainly there for CC, HoT's on anyone not the tank unless it warrants it for efficiency, giving cleric or puller/tank mana to keep the tempo up and much, much more but dps is the last concern in a group, especially so if it is an efficient one.

>>1860644
dont sleep on necro pets, especially if you can charm. you can do all that stuff while hitting your /pet kill macro just fine

>>1860649
Well yes of course if you're charming but that's situational and unless it's hasted+dual wielding then the dps isn't spectacular. If pet is hasted+dual wielding you have to be able to get it CC'd or get lucky and channel a mez on it before you get stomped just to drop a hasted pet on your group. Extremely situational but I do agree, if you have the means then def go for it.

>>1860644
>Garbage players
cool it buddy. we were talking about DPS

>>1860668
good thing channeling is trivial on p99, not that it would matter since you are gonna have manaskin anyway and you cant get interrupted while its up. wont be a problem unless you are sitting down right next to your charmed mob.

>>1860672
Unless you're talking about pre-velious then the dps focusing Necro+pet is going to be outdps'd by a ranger by a large margin. Mage/druid/bards hell even rangers can cast a DS on the tank which in itself would out DPS the necro and its pet.

>>1860688
>p99
Ok so you can do your scenario in 2 zones that are either highly inefficient(KC) or ghost towns (HS). HS solo is good fun and a challenge but if you're looking for XP and soloing why not just do Neriak Arena?

>>1860700
Well, Chardok too

>>1860623
I accept your concession.

>>1860700
you can dog on KC all you want but its overwhelmingly the most popular grouping zone in that level range and thus is really the only relevant zone to consider. bard swarming killed velks and now people refuse to go there even though they changed the rules to disallow it. I will stan HS until the day I die, but unfortunately you cant get people to go anywhere other than KC on p99 its like pulling teeth.

>>1860695
well I don't know about others but I never played beyond Velious, so there's that.
Plus no one made any assertion that Necros were primarily/best DPS. It was all talk about where necro DPS comes from, and how in a group setting it's probably not gonna be the DoTs.

>>1860714
I think the argument originally was that Necros aren't popular for groups, which is true. If you're new to the game and want to group I wouldn't suggest a Necro unless you intend on taking it slow and learning the ins and outs as you level. A good Necro can make a group out of anyone and keep it going even when essential classes leave, but that requires game and zone knowledge but getting into established groups a nobody necro won't be their first or third choice.

>>1860728
necros are fine and get groups plenty easy, its not like we are talking about a wizard or something

>>1860734
Are you talking about p99? P99 is top heavy, leveling groups are lucky to get a druid.

>>1860600
tbf grouping is encouraged on thj, it just becomes detrimental if you play with more than one person unless people are actually carrying their weight(unlikely given the average "wife agro" boomertard)

>>1860708
The only thing I will concede is that you're a moron who cant tell the difference between a game meant to be played solo, and one that is not but has a convoluted and annoying method to circumvent that game design.

>>1860747
THJ is a scumbag server of grifters, the devs are going to lose their moms house for their bullshit.
>DBG hasn't protected their IP from that EQEmu community for 20 years!
>Therefore we should be allowed to steal their product and build a business with it!

Using the EQEmu community as a hostage, fuck them I hope they get prison time too

>>1860644
>not dotting
why wouldnt you? you have infinite mana so you can just send all of them out

>>1860728
I know its deleted now but the post i replied to initially was saying anybody who thinks necro is a better pick than mage for a first character is just trying to optimize and suck all of the fun out of the game etc youre never gonna get a group as a necro compared to mage stop ruining everquest for new players. just an entire diatribe about optimization because of one sentence that said necros are fine for grouping. just completely overblown incorrect nonsense. necros literally have no problems getting groups on p99 at all. the reason we are talking about p99 specifically is because the person who was originally asking said they were planning to play on p99.

>>1860750
It's the same game, anon.

>>1860772
thj is so ridiculously custom you have to know it isnt. you must not have ever played on it

>>1860775
*squints* Nope, still Everquest, but hey whatever you have to tell yourself to justify your hypocrisy.

>>1860753
Lol, do you even play this game?

>>1860754
Mages will 10/10 times get into an established group before a Necro, if you want to group mainly then Mage is the better pick. However p99 leveling is dead and the endgame is the most obscene waste of time i've ever witnessed nothing about that was fun. Definitely go Necro for p99.

>>1860779
>ignores the question

>>1860780
Because it's an insanely silly question. Necro's do have great mana regen but it's definitely not infinite. You need to calculate DPM to gauge whether a dot is worth it and in a group mobs will not last enough to make any dot worth the mana. May aswell stick to the 2.0 dpm lifetap atleast you can then keep a heal on the tank aswell.

>>1860779
the end game def is dogshit, thats why i just leveled one of every class to 60 and then basically stopped playing. the only time I play anymore is when im duoing with one of my irl friends.

>>1860754
>it's deleted
So why continue to rant and seethe then? You clearly got them banned/censored.
So chill out. You've been ranting for 12 hours about necromancers in the thread.
Stop obsessing about the best class to play in a 15 year old community server that cloned a 25 year old game.

Its summer dude, go the fuck outside. S

>>1860778
if you cant tell the difference in gameplay between a custom server with tons of mechanics changes to facilitate solo play, and a borderline exploit that was only ever tolerated because it meant the company made more money
idk what to say

multibox never was anything more than a cope for dead servers or a way for tryhards to gain an advantage over normal players

>>1860789
>Stop obsessing about the best class to play in a 15 year old community server that cloned a 25 year old game
literally never happened, but good job outing yourself as the person who made that deleted post dumbass

>>1860793
Or a way for people with little time to play to progress without wasting half their play session getting and maintaining a group. Or a novel way to play a 26 year old game. Wow, that's just like THJ.
Conceptually THJ is no different than other servers that just allow you to box so you can solo everything. It's just made much easier because you can accomplish it on one character. It's also even gayer because there's no death penalty. EQ for babies.

>>1860789
>cloned
if only

>>1860799
corpse runs were never that good. thats why they got rid of them

>>1860808
>no risk whatsoever is a good thing
yeah ok bro. enjoy your baby server.

>>1860799
nobody gives a shit that you can solo stuff on servers that allow boxing, that's not why people dislike it and never was.

the real reason is that nobody wants to play 1 box on a server that allows 4+, and nobody actually likes multiboxing, not even the people that do it(i did)

>>1860811
>enjoy your baby server.
until a judge shuts those jews down, anyway. lmao

>>1860811
>tantrum
there there

>>1860841
>projection

>>1860813
I like it. It's challenging and rewarding to do it the right way (ie not using mq2). I don't do more than 3 box tho.

>>1860848
>no u
thanks for confirming

>>1860858
Calm down, Aporia.

>>1860862
>fat fuck out of nowhere

>>1860814
Yeah, they're fucked.

>>1860881
>>1860882
>DBG evidence so weak they have to use shitty 1k viewed youtube viewer quotes
lmao
this is like someone quoting a 4chan post with a ton of (You)'s in court
>"your owner 9 anons replied based to my post, I rest my case"

>>1860890
Why are all of your posts so retarded? It's evidence that THJ is taking business away from them by using their own IP in a for-profit manner. Barring some miracle like a retarded/activist judge, they are fucked.

>>1860890
heh

>>1860881
>judge i would like to admit into evidence this statement by ganjarat in the youtube comment section

>>1860881
>>1860882
Corporatefags believe shit like every private server download is a lost sale.

>>1860893
your honor I would like to point out that anonymous#1860890 is a faggot

gonna laugh so hard when THJ is shut down

>>1861042
>secrets still mad that THJ > quarm

>>1861045
i'd laugh even harder if quarm shut down

>>1860881
this shit takes a long time bro, they might be fucked but its not gonna be cheap for daybreak and i really doubt they will get much out of em in the end

>>1861089
They'll keep fighting. And they'll win.

>>1861091
win what? do you think those clowns are gonna have anything left after months in court and all those legal fees?
sure they can shut em down but a judgement doesnt mean anything if it cant be paid

>>1861093
It'll mean something when the next retard considers operating a for-profit server with their IP and then he remembers the fat judgment that happened to the last retard who did it.

>>1861095
thj was literally the only in in like 20 years of eqemu

>>1861097
Yes, and now due to their jewry Daybreak was forced to protect their IP and this will end up fucking over other emu servers. Everyone is mad at DBG for "attacking the community" or whatever when they should really be mad at the THJ devs for bringing this shitstorm on them.

>>1861095
Just means THJ will reopen in russia because ping doesn't mean jack shit in old ass everquest

All a server has to do is go turtle wow tier with hosting and they auto win

>>1861099
I haven't seen anyone be verbally upset with THJ except for secrets and the takp hacks.
If this was actually hurting eqemu we would see things like the P99 agreement being abolished
The only dumbfuck retard I saw get extremely spooked and upset was gay boy secrets and now his shitty server is neutered.

>>1861277
>neutered
Literally nobody cares about his custom content and fake expansion and quarm isn’t gonna hit 1200 anyway. Most of the qol things people care about are part of zeal anyway besides instanced raids and anti bottleneck.

>>1861277
>the P99 agreement being abolished
There was an Everquest book that was published last year which contains interviews with some of these relevant people. The head of p99 wasn't "allowed to talk about the agreement in any detail" and while the author of the book interviewed Jennifer Chen, the current Daybreak studio head, he was explicitly told NOT to bring up emulation at all whatsoever. Speculation seems to stem from the newer company (Enad Global 7 bought Daybreak + some others) and not knowing what they want.
So the agreement is in flimsy water at the moment, it seems. Obviously nothing to do with Quarm or THJ as this was published late last year. Further aggravated by current THJ stuff? Likely.

>>1861428
I miss Holly, bros

>>1861495
shitty companies do this all the time. never agree to work for any company before youre hired unless you receieve compensation

>>1861271
youll have to live there too lol, doesnt matter where the server is hosted if they can drag you to court

>>1861525
And they won't be getting their shekels. The only reason they're fighting this is because they want to keep the money flowing. It's not some altruistic stand against a greedy corporation. It's jews on both sides.

If only TAKP didn't release their source code, we'd live in a world with a thriving TAKP TLP and no Quarm. Such a shame.

>>1861578
>dual boxing allowed
>using the shitty takp client with no zeal
yeah no

>>1861277
Nah. THJ is playing a really shitty game and it can affect how all the private servers end up.
They're greedy Jews on both sides, there is no hero here..
DBG is Jewish because they just want a passive income from a 25+ year old game and THJ is Jewish because they're trying to squat on Daybreak's IP and pretend like they're the good guys.

Its retarded from both ends, but AT LEAST Daybreak has left the private server community alone, so long as they didn't try to directly confront and compete with retail EQ.

If THJ wins/avoid criminal and civil penalties, it'll probably be on the argument that DBG allowed the private server community to exist for decades, which will have legal precedent ramifications for all other private servers and mod projects etc.
If DBG wins it might just blow over after.

Does patent law and IP law in general fucking suck in the westel? YES.
But THJ isn't the hero's people imagine them to be, they're not gonna take this to the mats and carve out fair use exceptions for private servers and modding.
They just want money, and if they fails they'll prob settle and bail.

>>1861605
They allow a TAKP Zeal variant with camera fixes, which is everyone's biggest complaint. Dual boxing is kino.

>>1861611
Also if Quarm didn't exist there probably would've been a more vocal push for no boxing. As it was, all the people who wanted that already had it in Quarm, which goes back to my original point.

>>1861472
>search Daybreak and Darkpaw X posts for "pride," "gay," "lgbtq" and only one mention of pride month from the DBG account in 2021
I swear Darkpaw had a bunch and DBG had more than that. Did EG7 clamp down on faggotry?

>>1861713
nm it's on their main news page instead. I subbed to check out Fangbreaker, but that's gonna be a chargeback now. I hope these faggots lose their lawsuit and go under.

>>1861804
are you retarded or just completely inept? i was able to find nonsense within 10 seconds

>>1861815
All these companies post this shit on social media now so I just checked there. Who even reads a game's website anymore?

>>1861611
ackshually you can use zeal in its entirety, just don't bitch about crashes. takp is awesome and i wish more people played there. the staff are as good as it gets for an emu server.

>>1861369
well yeah he is trash at coding so all custom content was buggy and bad but you underestimate how many boomers loved the new race/class combos

>>1861871
>elroz
this dumb fuck constantly and poorly implements inaccurate shit into takp
even basic as fuck spawns and drop rates are wrong, how do you fuck up shit from classic when theres been hard info on it preserved on allakhazam for 3 decades now?

>>1861883
@grok is this true?

>>1861885
Yeah nigga it true.

>>1861885
>@grok is this true?

>>1861892
you forgot the part calling him a dumb fuck so reprompt it little lad

>>1861898
nah I pasted the whole post

>>1861871
>boxing server with MBGs basically on demand
lmao

>>1861944
Don't you play on the zoomer instant gratification no risk server?

>>1861883
to be fair p99 also has a ton of issues, almost everything in the db outside of raids seems fucked to me

fact is there's no good record on any of that stuff, excepting the rare targets people obsessed over, so spawns and drops will always be guesses unless its something super simple like spawn timers

>>1861578
I'm gonna try it. Classic EQ on a super low pop server sounds kinda comfy, but only because I know the server is run by proven, competent people and it's not just going to disappear overnight. Plus I have a feeling it's going to get a population bump after THJ is killed. Being able to dual box will be way more appealing to THJ players than one box Quarm, plus a lot of them feel betrayed by Secrets.

>>1861955
>deflection
of course not, anybody with 2 brain cells knew that THJ was inevitably going to get hammered. I still think THJ was just a grab the money and run server but we will see. I as expecting them just to fold at the first possible hint of anything and just nuke everything from orbit. Im still surprised that isnt what happened desu.

>>1862018
Greed happened. They're making a ton of money and they don't want to lose that income, so they asked a lawyer if they have a case and maybe they do, but more likely that lawyer was also greedy and exaggerated their chance of winning to get paid. Either way, next month should be pretty enlightening.

>>1861998
I very much doubt that thj people will be interested, dual box really is an annoyance and even still won't let you do that much more than playing single.

>>1861964
Never mentioned P99 and allakhazam has amazing records, a lot of the players from 99-2003 are far more intelligent than anyone playing today, there's tons of posts recording exact spawn times, health pools, drop rate percentages, and the whole shabang.

>>1862140
alla is filled with mountains of bullshit and disinfo also though and as i said only a small fraction of the content had any kind of focused data collection.

eq being what it was, you often wont even find good info on level ranges of mobs

>>1862184
This is why you read, as you progress through the comments correct data is reported and discussed.

There's a reason all the boomers including you still use literal maps drawn by the same people who posted that same info on allakhazam to this day.

Almost nobody here actually talks about EverQuest. Kind of funny.

>>1862270
Pretty sure every single post in this thread is about Everquest.

>>1862198
alla didnt even exist when those boomer maps were made bro

>>1861883
lmao big baby fell for an "oversimplification" kek what a faggot.
learn to analyze complex situations and don't behave like a fucking fat ass basement dweller

>>1862411
>>1862579
poor loser boomers mad at the truth

>>1862619
don't even talk to me, pal!

>>1862270
>>1862579
>>1862619
How does this thread among the many other generals on /vm/ manage to retain such a low level of quality? I don't play EQ and every time I check this thread out you newfags are constantly non-stop name-calling and bickering about the most infantile trivialities. You'd think EVERQUEST would be populated with 35+ but it's the same 12-25 year old newfag behavior you see in every other thread across the entire website.

>>1862886
>I don't play EQ
why not?

>>1862886
Don’t really see how you are any different from any other fart huffer in here. 4chan is 4chan regardless of what the thread is about.

>>1862886
>You'd think EVERQUEST would be populated with 35+
It is. This is how 35+ people behave.

>>1862886
eq is an old game bro and there isn't much to talk about besides server drama. some people also genuinely enjoy the sniping

What should my TAKP TLP duo be? I kinda want something unusual but still effective. idk why but Ranger + Cleric is calling to me. It would be pretty brutal not having ports and only shitty Ranger sow with that tiny pop though.

>>1862886
All it takes is one autist to ruin a thread, especially on a slow board like this.

>>1863115
ranger + shaman would prob be better, but if thats what calls to you then thats what I would go with
>>1863125
>hes still going on with this cope
lmao, still waiting for you to quote all the posts you think were made by that "one" individual so we can all laugh at your schizo ass

>>1863115
>>1863144
Yea Shaman def will synergize better with having both HP buff type. I think Pal/Sham would be a meta like enc/cler but i've never tried it.

>>1863317
shaman duos amazingly well with most classes

>>1863125
>plenty of game discussion and people just stating facts about quarm and mentally ill secrets the owner of quarm
>gay boomer calls it a "ruined thread" because the server he simps for isnt perfect
sad

>>1863115
perks of ranger
>tracking is amazing
>guarantees runners will never ever be a problem
>mistmore is very enjoyable with a ranger in the party
This is off of my limited knowledge to only playing classic though I'm assuming TAKP is already in pop or something so maybe ranger is even better with AA's which I have no experience with

>>1863352
Nah this is the TLP. Kunark just opened. 6 months per expac then 6 months after PoP merge into TAKP prime. They're also working on a progression server starting at LDoN up to Dragons of Norrath iirc using the Titanium client. Plan is to launch it once the classic TLP ends then allow transfers from TAKP.

>>1863406
>starting at LDoN
LoY*

I am gonna leave this here and request anons leave their feedback/ideas/wishlists for a POP era private server.
I've already stated some of out ideas and theyve been well received.
But all that aside, what do you consider important?

Quality of life & accessibility changes/fixes
- likely adding some form of consistent/predictable exp bonus(es); what forms do you prefer?

New player experience improvements

Balance patching (classes, races, items, map, mobs, etc)

Important features to add/remove etc (ie: removing teleporters in luclin & pop as an example)

Thank you for your thoughts. They will all be considered as we are messing with settings now.

>>1863115
just play a bard instead of the ranger, theyre equally as tanky and have basically all the same benefits(track, snare, etc)

>>1863911
>But all that aside, what do you consider important?
>Quality of life & accessibility changes/fixes
>- likely adding some form of consistent/predictable exp bonus(es); what forms do you prefer?
I'd say baseline something like 25% faster than P99 + rested XP + holiday XP bonus would be a nice sweet spot.
>New player experience improvements
Better starter weapon quest rewards as you originally mentioned. Aside from that idk, starting fresh is supposed to be a harsh experience and I wouldn't want it cheapened with any gay shit like a starter island or something.
>Balance patching (classes, races, items, map, mobs, etc)
Take the Halfling XP bonus away and give it to Humans, as Brad intended.
>Important features to add/remove etc (ie: removing teleporters in luclin & pop as an example)
I think removing teleporters to keep travel on Norrath meaningful would be great and would give your server a unique take on the era.
Remove mounts. Fuck mounts.
/who all zone

>>1862886
People who still play EverQuest 25 years later suffer from arrested development.

>>1864266
>people who like old game all have rare mental disorder
sure pal

>>1863911
I submit for your consideration account wide keying/flagging, but this will prob be controversial. Especially in PoP getting characters fully keyed/flagged is an absolute fucking drag, particularly for alts. I also think this will get more people to interact with non-raid keyed/flagged content if they know they only have to do it once. Also account wide ignore list.

>go to play eq2
>login
>a million popups and ads on screen
>log out
>another popup
fuck daybreak.

>>1864523
>do something for free
>surprised when youre the product

>>1863988
>I'd say baseline something like 25% faster than P99
Nigga ain't nobody got time for that. Double P99 XP or bust.

>>1864523
It was bad even when sony still owned it

>>1864285
>>1864438
I've played many games older than you.

>>1865017
sounds like a classic case of projection to me then

>>1865017
How many?

>>1863911
I like you're newbie ideas. 25 skill to start with let's you get a few skills going so you're not constantly whiffing at level 1, and it doesn't really unbalance anything.
Same with buffed newbie gear. Just overall improvements so a totally new player isn't sitting there whiffing on a large rat, wondering what the point of this game it.

I also like you piercing using DEX idea, mixes it up a little. Changes the meta a little.

For my ideas:
I've always felt if a class can Bash with a shield, it should get frontal stun immunity while a shield is equipped.
Ogres keep their unique ability, but it allows other melee tanks to actually compete without having to grind AAs.

Iksar Regen is so stupid op too, id suggest getting rid of it. They're already a great race with great stats and a natural AC bonus. I'd remove regen and then remove their exp penalty entirely.

I like the idea the other anon had too of fixing the 5% exp buff and move it off halflings and onto humans, as Brad intended.

I also think each race should have the ability to go 25 skill points past the cap on their racial weapons of choice.
So dwarves prefer axes, etc etc... just a fun little thematic bonus for the min maxers to argue about.

Little things like that would be neat.

>>1865131
about 350

Project Troon shambles on

>>1865275
>cap of 1200
what a fucking faggot. Worst concession. Guarantee the axe-wound will be reporting other servers which go higher than 1200 pop.

>>1865318
I wouldnt put it pass him if he was the one tattling on THJ in the first place you can tell he cares about population numbers. he has been passive aggressive about P99 vs quarm in the past
the dude is a filthy snake

https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Daybreak-Game-Company-Reviews-E973097.htm
>Daybreak is run like a mafia. Employees are ordered to spy on others who are suspected of being disloyal. Management issued stern warnings that those who are reported for negativity, even when off campus, can be terminated. Work environment is hostile. Employees are pitted against each other. Teams are pitted against each other.
>HR cannot be trusted. They are used as a tool to manipulate and threaten staff. Management is demonstrably incompetent. Insists on changes to projects that are often unfeasible and sometimes impossible and always out of touch with the project.
>Upper management are bullies. Leads are undermined, retaliated against, and replaced if they do not follow marching orders. Zero accountability at the top. Decisions made by management result in the loss of millions of dollars. Yet management proudly shows off their new luxury cars and new houses, in the wake of layoffs and ever-dwindling profit sharing bonuses.
>Company brings in premium hires to run existing teams. These types invariably undermine the game's experts and sink team morale as they ram through uninformed decisions.
>Buildings are half-empty. Three large layoffs in the past 15 months. Staff fired for minor infractions. Good people have left or are leaving for more stability and less hostility. Daybreak is struggling to bring on and keep quality staff. Management asked employees to write positive reviews to offset the negative ones.
>Company is in the midst of a re-branding to shed their bad industry reputation, while keeping the same people and policies that led to this reputation. Owners are desperately trying to sell company while simultaneously running it into the ground.
lmao what a shitshow

>>1865814
>new luxury cars
Sounds like Brad's Ferraris lmao nothing has changed or when they fired the Vanguard staff in that parking lot while one of the devs was talking about a new house he bought.

>>1865814
be funny if they sold and the new owner immediately cut the quarm contract

>>1866414
itl be REALLY funny if they go under before the trial is over and the IP is loose

>>1865814
I wish I was a billionaire so I could buy EQ and make a new game. I know it's fairly generic but EQ just feels like a premium IP and I actually think there's space for a new game that keeps the spirit of old EQ but with some modernization. The problem is it wouldn't be AS profitable as other things, but I think it'd still make money.

>>1863911
I think implementing Ykesha and maybe LDON is a good idea if you can (maybe without dyes?).

>>1866414
there is no quarm contract. its all just a bunch of horseshit birdnose made up to garner donations

>>1866625
This.
I doubt there was any communication with DB.

>>1863911
I wonder what people think of implementing Firona Vie's "free trade" rules?
With no Kronos, there would be zero chance of pay to win.

>>1866472
>I wish I was a billionaire so I could buy EQ and make a new game. I know it's fairly generic but EQ just feels like a premium IP and I actually think there's space for a new game that keeps the spirit of old EQ but with some modernization. The problem is it wouldn't be AS profitable as other things, but I think it'd still make money.
I think there is a lot of space for at least a classic with the QOL improvements modern UI and modern sensibilities offer.

And to be real, I think EQ is barely a 100 million dollar franchise.

>>1866672
I like it. Would be nice to be able to buy raid gear since I'm not much for raiding myself.

I found serveranon's server

>>1867470
Are you trying to scare him off or something?

>>1867667
He did it all for the dookie.

>>1865275
>will be enforced
it's interesting the way he worded that. A player cap isn't really something you "enforce". it's just a setting. You wouldn't say PvE is enforced, for example.
I think reveals something about how he sees himself.

found the image for the next thread

>>1868280
lmao

>>1860426
Shit is not even in Beta phase and a lot of building are for sale.

>What do you think a stress tests means?

>>1868441
Ugh there's housing?

>>1868441
well they got into EA in 5 months but I will say I noticed they populated more buildings this test and you no longer need to strictly run near the west gate/necro area to vendor for non shit tier coin
but nightharbor is still garbage tier and the 2nd tier "shade dune" zones being carbon copies but in 2 seperate zones feel like shit too

Do you guys have any idea how priviledged you are to have the free time required to play an MMO? I take on as little responsibility in life as I can possibly get away with, and there's no way I could possibly fit a game like this into my schedule. I'm honestly jealous.

>>1868905
you'd be surprised how many boomers play this game for like 15-20 hours a week only

>>1869176
"Only" 15-20 hours a week, he says. Jesus. Like I said, priviledged.

>>1870094
there's 168 hours per week, if you can't use 20 of them for a hobby you enjoy it sucks you're so retarded you made poor life choices and now have to be a wage slave for a shitty corpo

>>1870116
lol a MMO isn't a hobby.

>>1870124
You're welcome to opinion even if it's wrong

>>1870116
That's 3 hours a day every single day. Not too unreasonable but with a job and a family, definitely on the upper end without being an irresponsible father or not sleeping enough. I don't even have a wagey job (retired in my 30s, do odd jobs here and there and have some livestock to tend to), but just with my family I don't think I manage 20 hours a week.

>>1870183
There's plenty of people with full time jobs and families who still consistently enjoy their hobbies with no issue.

>>1870183
Busyposting is so fucking cringe, go back to redd*t so you can post about how you can only game for 2 minutes a day and circle jerk with the rest of the redd*t dads about how busy you are.

>>1870193
What other hobbies are hard working family men doing for more than 20 hours a week?

>>1870193
yeah but there isn't enough time to enjoy a hobby and a MMO

>>1870183
Are you religious?

>>1870201
>enjoy gaming
>get older
>have responsibilities that don't allow you to game as much as you used to
>some retard with nothing to live for except internet pixels calls you cringe and judges YOUR life choices
just lo fucking l

>>1870234
>being so insecure you have to come to 4chinz to try to get validation and attention
>make asinine assumptions about other people to feel better about yourself
yeah you're damn right im mocking you, absolutely pathetic

>>1870240
>everyone who disagrees with me on 4chan is the same person
you're just a whiny faggot who has done nothing but shit up this thread.

>>1870201
>Busyposting
Why would a brainrotted zoomer play EverQuest?

>>1870244
the irony of this statement is nothing short of incredible

>>1867470
>>1867667
Lol nah. We run direct via direct IP connection and i obfuscate the IP thru the VPS.
To get what you see in that image, I believe you need to register your server with the EQEMU community; which I haven't done yet.

But feel free to believe that's ours if you wish.

I was looking at that new wow classic pserver going up this weekend, Project Epoch. It's run by troons, which is apparently the norm for their servers. I guess we're lucky in that we only have one troon server. EQ confirmed way less gay than wow.
>>1870232
I'm Catholic.
>>1870315
You can't fool us, Dookie. Also let us in.

>>1870322
pretty sure that’s the norm for any private server for any game. p99 truly is blessed

>>1870094
>>1870183
bro thats like how much time it takes to follow a baseball team
its pretty negligible, epsecially because eq being what it is compared to other games

>>1870234
>posts at 1 am while also doing reddit dad busyposting
lmao

>>1870353
>he thinks everyone lives in his time zone
yep it's brainrot

>>1870230
This. Sure, I could swing 15-20 hours of an MMO a week if it was the only thing I did for fun with my free time, but do you people seriously only play one game? No other games, no other hobbies, nothing else that you may want to do with your free time? I have stacks of games that I want to get around to playing eventually, as well as things aside from just gaming that I'd also like to spend time on at least occasionally.

>>1870116
Work, commute, cook, clean, work out, yardwork, property maintenance, family time, socializing. If you're able to do all of the above, plus 20+ hours of a single MMO in a week, while still doing other games/leisure activities too, on top of dealing with the random shit life throws at you (example: my car's currently in the shop for repairs so my commute is longer than usual for the next couple of days), and doing all of this is easy for you, then I genuinely want you to give me some time management advice, as you're clearly much better at it than I am.

>>1870337
Even if you watched all of your team's games that's not 20 hours a week and no one watches every regular season game. Plus as hands off as EQ can be it doesn't compare to having a baseball game on in the background while doing other things.

>>1870676
>forgetting he said he was retired in his 30s
Damn you are fucking stupid, read the reply chain before you post retarded shit like this. If you are retired then you have infinite free time. Trying to pretend otherwise is dumb as fuck.

>>1870717
>infinite free time
actually, you have 168 hours per week

>>1870695
>>1870676
>>1870639
I appreciate we have some sensible people in the thread, but I fear you're putting in far too much effort arguing with those faggots.
They'll just reply with some bullshit.

>>1870717
I'm not the retired guy, I work 42.5 hours a week. Pretty normal I think, some boomers may even criticize that as "lazy".

>>1870781
Yes that’s why I mentioned the reply chain. This dude trying to come in here and say he’s super busy and doesn’t have X hours a week to do whatever with no job and no commute is laughable. If someone does have a job/commute then that’s completely different.

>>1870322
>Yes
Explains the "I"-centric worldview, obscene judgment, and complete lack of empathy.

>>1870817
Yeah, I prioritize time with my family over a 26 year old MMO. Crazy, huh? The point was if just my family and chores around my property keep me under 20 hours a week, it's that much harder for a man who works. Which of course I know, because until recently I did. You're obviously a self obsessed retard who spends too much time gaming. What are your plans for your kids if you ever do have some? Just throw them a tablet and call it a day so you can spend more time gaming by yourself? Pathetic.

>>1870821
I'm sorry your parents made you get up early for church, anon.

>>1870832
>>1870837
#gottem
Surely you can shit up some >>>/vg/ general instead.

>>1870832
You seem to have plenty of free time to monitor this thread and respond instantly, so yeah I think you are full of shit. Just some moral grandstanding trash for validation. If you were half the family man you were pretending to be you wouldn’t be here trying to stroke your ego and patronize people.

>>1870676
>>1870725
>dumbass boomers whining about dumbass decisions they made
reminds of faggot secrets whining about how busy he is while also spending literally 10 hours nonstop yapping in his discord filled with gay boomers
many such cases

>>1870832
and yet your retarded ass has plenty of time to yap on 4chan and search for a thread themed around a 26 year old mmo on the most obscure and slowest board on the entire website
stfu retard

>>1870847
>you post on 4chan so you must be lying about doing other things
kek so predictable. It seems like you're just gnashing your teeth at anything that reminds you that you're a failure. There's still time, anon. You can turn your life around.

>itt fat losers get triggered when they're reminded they should do something other than play video games all day
t. fellow fat loser

>>1870676
>he is so lazy that simply things like yard work takes a chunk of time
stop waiting until your grass is so high it stalls your mower
and if you have a family where is your S.O? they can cook/do dishes

>beta loser who can't even fix his own car while also mistreating it so much he has to take it to the shop
pathethic

>>1870639
MMO and gaming fall under the same category you disingenuous moron, also nice job assuming everyone here only plays everquest, obviously everyone just plays whatever they feel like when they're enjoying a gaming session.

>>1870920
everquest is so slow you can literally multitask just about anything else while holding down a camp in-game even more so if you play a caster.
>kill whatever your camping in a matter of minutes
>cast invis/hide if its a dangerous area and sit in corner while medding
>go finish something for the 10-20 minutes it takes for shit to respawn
>return to laptop/PC - dump mana reclearing
>rinse repeat


I think the retards whining about time like faggot tier beta dads are quarm boomers, that server has hyper non canon spawns so it turns into a more modern mmo designed to keep you staring at the screen the whole session with almost zero natural breaks.

>>1870725
It's fun. The one schizo gets so mad.

>>1870918
>>1870932
I both you have clubbed fingers and breath heavy af

>>1863911
Allow guilds to flag themselves as PVP.
Anyone joins, they flag PVP until they leave and speak to the priest of discord to unflag.
>Prevents leaving a guild mid battle to unflag PVP.

PVP guild members can attack anyone and anyone can attack them; including blues.
All typical PVP character restrictions are removed (grouping trading buffing etc).

DEATH PENALTIES:
if a red kills a blue, the blue cannot be looted and loses no exp etc.
If a blue kills a red, the red loses exp.
If a red kills a red, exp loss + coin loot & loot anything in bag slots (including opening bags and taking from the bags)

Add the Firona Vie free loot another anon mentioned to encourage end game guild wars over control of loot because it's tradeable.
Can use p99 red and retail PVP balance rules

>>1870918
That’s not what I said or implied at all, you retarded faggot. But nice strawman to try and jack yourself off for being so BUSY and SUCCESSFUL

>>1870943
I think it's funny the reddit boomers think we're both just one person shitting on their poor time management.

>>1870942
>opening bags and taking from bags
I’m not sure this is actually possible in the client, dunno how hard it would be to implement

>>1870942
This is absolutely retarded. I'm typically a pvp enjoyer, but EQ pvp is garbage, bro.

>>1870943
>>1870949
There are 2 of you, but this is a samefag. Your posting styles are noticeably different. The other one is the Quarm schizo. I enjoy his posts both because I hate troons and because it's fun to make him mad.

>>1870961
lmao

>>1870957
Yeah EQ PVP is the most retarded shit in the universe.
If you want older mmo pvp just go play a UO private server or DAOC.

>>1870957
>>1870994
Its good, you're just bad.
And this is encouraging guild v guild rather than solo ganking.
Solo ganking would still exist, but on the whole it would be more oriented toward gvg

>there are people who want a fresh P99 server so they can have horrible ZEMs, class XP penalties and overcrowded zones just to end up in forever Velious again
why? why would anyone want that? for me they'd have to do a less autistic version that didn't replicate every patch state. otherwise fuck suffering through that shit again

>>1871000
yeah little lad the warrior who gets jumped by a bard is just bad lmao
>no DR
>no restrictions on charm
>some classes have on demand infinite giga speed while others don't
>some classes are loaded with so much passive regen and the ability to root with ease that others literally can't do anything while also rotting to dots on top of it
>boomer anon :"hehehe git gud!!!"
stick to eq, gramps. thats the only place you can compete

>>1871053
>responding to a generic "git gud" newfag

>>1871050
The nice thing about EQ is how big the world is, just don't start in the boomer tranny race zones like kelethin, freeport, misty thicket, or nektulos forest

I went ogre during green and dark elf on quarm I ran to the ogre swamp and leveled with my friends on the dark elf.
zero issues and we got way ahead of the boomer tranny pack because lizard camps are kino tier exp with merchants super close by just let the ogre bros vendor for you and give you your dosh they also can pick up some spells off their own vendors since a lot of spells are shared across classes like most heals and buffs.

>>1871053
hes just gonna tell you you're bad for not stacking MR in every slot and carrying 100k plat of consumables to defend yourself. the real end game eq pvp is just how much money you are willing to blow vs the other person to win, chugging wort pots, puppet strings, root nets, balls of yarn, etc, etc, just for them to WC cap away when they see they are going to lose. thats why eq pvp is shit.

>>1870942
so reds can't attack blues?

>>1871053
You guys are such cry babies.
Keep pretending you're a hardcore PVP'er when these kinds of scenarios you're inventing need to be executed perfectly.
Ive killed every class with my warrior back on Rallos Zek because spell DMG was reduced by 67% (still is) and a warriors hit points alone just let them never die.
This is how I know you never played eq PVP.
The 67% reduced DMG was around before kunark on Rallos.
A bard could never kill a fucking warrior because their spells took forever to kill em. It just wasn't worth the time back then.
But please keep pretending you know what you're talking about.

>>1871528
>charms you
>drowns you underwater
>drags you into the middle of a bunch of mobs then gates out
>just makes you sit there for hours doing absolutely nothing
epic spell damage resist bro, next you're gonna tell me rogues double backstabbing people and one shotting them at the zone line before they even get control of their character is a skill issue. I played on RZ back in the day, ive seen what people do. you clearly haven't, stop fucking pretending.

>>1871528
Excuse me while I dunk on your level 10 character with my BiS deleveled melee. Git gud retard.

>>1871551
Lmao.. dude, charm, fear etc were all disabled vs players. This was also implemented on Rallos Zek, pre-kunark.
You guys are just showing how absolutely ignorant you are about eq PVP.
>>1871594
That was a real issue in Rallos yes.
You can fix that by simply de-leveling their skills too.
I can't be sure on this one, but I believe by POP they had removed this exploit and had skills delevel with your level.
So yes, it's a literal exploit but it can (and I believe was) patched/fixed.

>>1871551
>>1871644
>I played on RZ back in the day, ive seen what people do. you clearly haven't, stop fucking pretending.
I actually missed this sentence.
You absolutely were not on Rallos Zek dude. You're lying. Everything you're crying about was not real past the first few months.
I was there at launch of the server. Your just lying.
I was there when full loot was a thing and when they changed it to 1 item and when they made hand slots unlootable.
I remember charm affecting players, and fear glitching to allow the PVP level range to attack you.
They removed them from PVP and they absolutely added 67% DMG reduction on spells. That isn't nothing.
And l-fucking-ol at the rogue bit.
Rogues (and Wizards) were nearly non existent on Rallos Zek until pop because of how weak they were in PVP back then.

You. Are. Absolutely. Lying.

>>1871654
>everything you're crying about wasn't real past the first few months
>you're lying
not the sharpest tool in the shed, are you?

Can't wait to have a fresh start with a new thread. This one was shit.

>>1871654
you never even addressed my main point that eq pvp now is basically just a consumables/clicky dick measuring contest, because you know it’s fucking true and it’s fucking retarded

>>1871690
all of it is on topic and will be in the next thread just because it hurts your fee fee's doesn't stop making it all true

>>1871528
>>1871654
>unironic eq pvp tranny
LMAO
go hang out with the only 60 retards on P99 red if you like it so much

>>1871690
First time on 4chan? All generals are this way. Remember to report and ignore spam and off-topic posts!

>>1871740
Bullshit. This general is usually pretty chill.

Jesus, so much retarded cope in this thread now I can't even bother giving any (you)s.

>I dont have the time to play an mmo how can you even play just 15 hours a week and have fun!?
lmao even, EQ is not a hard game to maintain unless you're talking about the spergfest that is p99 raiding which I agree is a complete waste of time. The only way to play EQ in 2025 is with instances, the game was never designed to be as top heavy as the game currently is across all servers.

>eq pvp is garbage.
That's because you don't understand what even makes EQ good or how to make it challenging. What makes EQ great is not the combat, it is the environment, mobs are not hard but manipulating the environment to achieve a goal is what makes it hard. The same goes for pvp.
>warriors stand no chance against a bard, pvp bad.
Nobody can kill a well played bard but also nobody should be able to be killed by a bard unless you're out in the karanas with your thumb up your ass. Even then, if you have a healer with you then odds are the bard is not going to be able to do anything but harass you.

>>1871780
>trains you with fading memories then just chain mezzes and snares you
Environment successfully manipulated, what an amazing game!

>>1871799
>getting snared and mez'd by a bard post luclin
ngmi

>>1871826
Wouldn’t matter anyway since dispel can’t be resisted, hope your cap is charged!

>>1871780
Like I mentioned earlier EQ is such a slow game you can literally play it while working or doing any other chore/errand

EQ pvp sucks btw

>>1871780
The only raiding I do on p99 is logging over to a character I don’t play anymore I have parked in a raid zone (assuming I’m already on), standing afk pressing a button or 2, then collecting free loot at the end. This should be the only “raiding” anyone sane should be doing.

>>1871780
>The only way to play EQ in 2025 is with instances, the game was never designed to be as top heavy as the game currently is across all servers.
Or be civilized adults and agree on a weekly rotation, like TAKP.

I like both multiquesting and FV Loot conceptually but in practice it just means that autistic fags or cheaters permacamp anything even remotely valuable in order to sell plat.

>>1871659
yea I am sure that's what you meant.
you totally didnt try lying about having played rallos to try and bolster your arguments.
and youre totally not moving the goalposts now to try and deflect from the fact youre a full of shit faggot.

but lets pretend you meant only the first couple months in the entire lifespan of a 25 year old mmorpg...
Your entire argument is still retarded, because the issues you complained about were fixed.

>>1871695
>you never even addressed my main point that eq pvp now is basically just a consumables/clicky dick measuring contest
My original post was a response to serveranon's request for opinions, and therefore, the context of my post was limited to pop (which was the limit of my time in EQ outside of P99 and easy servers).

>>1871737
>everyone who disagrees with me is a tranny.
not an argument

>>1871780
>The same goes for pvp.
This. Guaranteed most of the guys dont even know that player faction standings matter in pvp because it affects how the guards react to pvp around them.
If youre dubious to guards, they wont defend you, as an example.
Similarly, you can raise standing with npc mobs/dungeons and fight in those areas vs players as the mobs wont kill you.
I had a halfling druid as one of my chars on sullon zek and the frogloks liked me.
So id sit down there and kill evils while defending and buffing the frogloks.
To use an overused marketing term: the emergent gameplay in EQ pvp was amazingly underrated.
Brad had accidentally made a really compelling roleplay friendly pvp system, they didnt even realize it.

>>1871969
ngl that is pretty cool. unfortunately any type of pvp is going to doom serveranon's server. it's just too small of a niche of an already niche game.

>>1871961
>being this mad that I’m right
I literally quit because of it, stop coping. I got chain charmed for literally hours, you can’t camp, you can’t talk, you can’t /q, you can’t do shit. Consumable/clicky spam trash is the meta for every single server, in every single era. If you played red for even 5 seconds you would know that. If you played any other pvp server in the last 15 years, even if you played on project troon you would know that. It’s going to be true in your presumed ruleset too. If your opponent uses multiple cHeal clickies and you don’t, you lose, if you don’t spam pumice, you lose, if only one of you worts, you lose. It’s actual, pure dogshit trash. It’s just so obvious you have no clue what you are talking about. This is by far the biggest issue with eq pvp, nothing else even comes close. And then you use all of those consumables and your opponent caps out. It’s pure, unfiltered garbage. You dont even know about that, and you have the audacity to tell me I’m the one who doesn’t know what I’m talking about? Get the fuck out of here.

I hope serveranon follows through. I really think a single box PoP era server with classic travel and some QOL is unique and compelling enough to get a decent population.

>>1870695
i said 15-20 bro, its not far off 15 first of all and secondly, yes people do watch every game, a lot of people. lots of people actually even attend over 50% of home games too... compare that to leveling a wizard by quadding for like 3 minutes and going afk for 15-infinity in between pulls...

not everyone actually raids or does more than leveling and maybe farming a few items

>>1845911
It was of its time. Nobody in 1999 had multi monitor setup with photoshop or a discord chat in another window or ease of use website tools to act as an info depot like a wikia to immediately gain knowledge about shit, especially if they had dialup. It also didn't help that EQ1's typical overland zone had usually only one 32x32 texture overstretched with a thick fog that covered distant objects or the OG keyhole UI all to assist with your average PC's performance at the time. None of that "magic" can be replicated.
>>1846138
>>1846191
>>1846440
There was nothing wrong with the idea of creating new models. The problem lied with the fact that SoE had too much on their plate with doing a graphical update on top of a massive expansion that was initially meant to be bigger than Kunark. They should've pushed SoL a year back and just focused on fleshing out the character models as well as all NPC mobs in the OG game with community input.
But saying they should've stuck with the OG models is a hindsight bias. Graphics were EVERYTHING for videogames up until the 2010's. Each year they kept getting more visually complex and so did the expectations of the common audience. SoE had a right to fear the competition and everyone from gamers to journalists were commenting on EQ1 looking dated when SoV came out. Shame they just turned out to be ugly, stiff and very limited in aesthetic.

>>1870116
Just wait until mommy either kicks you out or croaks. Then the true fun begins for you kid.

>>1872173
Holy shit dude, you TOLD that anonymous poster in the Everquest general of the popular website 4chan.org exclamation point

>>1872195
>reddit humor

>>1872173
>This retard still thinks he is haunted by a 20 year old
lmao

I tried Monsters & Memories again. I can't do it. It's not good enough.

>>1872208
>everybody who disagrees with me is taken care of by their parents and fits a convenient stereotype
Psychotic Redditfag rhetoric.

>>1872544
I'm not the anon you epic owned with that reddit snark

>>1872245
>worse gameplay
>worse graphics
yeah i dont see the point of it at all

>>1872195
>capslocking words
Very Chris Chan like behavior. Settle your seething autism down.

>>1871975
>I literally quit because of it, stop coping. I got chain charmed for literally hours, you can’t camp, you can’t talk, you can’t /q, you can’t do shit.
>LITERALLY HOURS
Lmak okay dude, funny stuff.

If you had played at all I'm 1999, you'd know you could literally hang up the phone line and your char would go link dead.
>LITERALLY HOURS
I absolutely laughed out loud at that.
Very funny.

>retail is unbalanced in an era of pay to win cheese and DMG's abuse of entire game mechanics
You don't say?

>>1873036
>Reddit humor
>>1873097
>seethe
>autism
What does you being a 2016+ newfag nigger have to do with Everquest?

>>1873068
I've barely played it so I can't comment on the gameplay, but the graphics are objectively better. I think they actually did a really good job of modernizing the style. Unfortunately they are troon enablers so I will not be paying for a subscription.

>>1873131
Nah, been going to 4chan since Spring 2005. Terribly sorry you're still obsessed with Hilldawg losing troon.

>>1873128
>retail cope
like I said already which you ignored because you are a fucking idiot, its true on every single private server, in every single era. you will literally never acknowledge this because you know its fucking stupid. most of the the asinine clickies/consumables are from early eras anyway - reaper, root nets, soulfire (although this varies by server whether or not non paladins can click it/quest it), the multiple DA items in the game, worts, puppet strings, WC cap and other instant escape items, the list goes on and on. the fact that you don't know about these items usages in pvp or seemingly dont know about these items at all due to your PoP/Live deflection even though most of them are classic era items speaks to your stupidity in both pvp and everquest in general. which one is it retard? like I said, get the fuck out of here with your head in the sand dogshit

>>1873203
What does you being a 2016+ newfag nigger have to do with Everquest? We're past bump limit. You can take the mask off, kiddo.

>>1873225
36, try again.

>>1873225
ANON GET DOWN
HE'S GOING TO TYPE ANOTHER BUZZWORD

>>1873134
the style itself may be okay but the ugliness of unreal engine is reflected heavily upon them ultimately making them abhorrent to look at

>>1873225
>take off the guise mask
guise...