Thread 1845567

come discuss one of the worst cases of project mismanagement in indie videogame history

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>don't eat irl while reading a map with sprinters on

>>1845628
Why didn't you just click the pause button? I do that every time I open the map.

>>1845631
eeeeeemmursionnnnn!
But really I thought I was safe with how remote the area was and I forgot about it anyway when I came back for my annual zomboid craving. In the end it is cheesy regardless and I am ok with this death as I test my revamped modlist.

>>1845567 (OP)
>can't find military backpack for a month
>fuck it, go to lv check point
>in two in game days I found 4 backpacks 3 alice belt and suspenders, m16 and all survival gear with aiming and reloading books
why are people so scared of that place? literally just run away if things go badly and you can sleep/base in warehouse nearby

>>1845628
Kinda neat how the hat looks like it's on the hood even though I know it's on the ground

>random spawn mod
>spawn in get great start with bag+m1911 in starter house
>look at map when I am in a safe location
>realise it is rosewood
>blow my brains out and start a new game
>>1845819
It's why I posted it again, quite a good death this was.

is b42 really becoming that bad? i havent touched nor read anything on it yet, just kept playing b41 with mods

>>1845902
>is b42 really becoming that bad?

>>1845902
When I noticed most of the good mods weren't updated to it I didn't even bother. Honestly don't get the point of playing b42 when it's that broken.

>v0.3.0 for Knox Event Expanded will be released later this week, more specifically on Friday, July 11, 2025 at 1:00 PM

https://youtu.be/jZeNij5vBcE

First seeds of the wannabe-Rimworld "generated story" shit they've been selling NPCs on for a decade. As usual, modders did it first. How do we foresee the Lemmy cope?

How come it's difficult to implement different character models based on the weight mechanic?
I've seen a few people attempt it but you have to do weird shit with the mod and run java code etc

>>1844503
best case I can see is maybe having sanctuary towns kind of like fallout 1/2, filled with npcs with in-depth dialogue and quests you can do mixed with a barter system.

combative npcs can be set in specific areas out in the world, maybe the prison is filled with prisoners who are loose etc
few buildings have psychotic npc survivors who are KoS

but I doubt they will ever go that in-depth because the game goes from a bland as fuck grind simulator "hehehehe your suppose to die eventually!" to an actual nonshit game with goals and a world.

>>1846110
looks good. i may even reinstall the game! can't believe we've been on a 13 year detour when this is the only thing people have ever wanted from the game. imagine 13 years of npc work instead of rewriting the engine three times and craftingslop. we could have had a proper lighting system outta the box if they'd just used unity
>>1846192
you'd need to edit every clothing item in the game to morph to the new shape to eliminate clipping, as well as things like backpack position and movement during animation, weapons on the back and so forth
one way of getting around it would be just apply the clothes texture directly to the player skin, and to parent teh bag onto the characters back
i dont think you can parent objects in this engine though

>>1846216
Yeah I have a personal model I made in blender and reshaped a few clothing pieces and bags but I have to basically use them as replacers to make it work.
I was trying to find something where only my custom model loads in for a specific weight class, with the way I do it now it just auto replaces all characters with the new model, even the zombies.

>>1825651
>lemmy is just an alcoholic
everything makes sense now.

>naoseous
>unpleaseantly hot despite being naked
hey guys I think I came down with something mind letting me into the safe house for some rest?

>>1846268
actually that would be another thing they could do with npcs, you fall asleep in your base but an event spawns where you hear a knock and wake up to a survivor that doesn't feel well and is begging to come in to rest.
there's a 50/50 chance they're infected but if they're not you get a huge reward or maybe a unlock.

>>1846110
>Friday, July 11
Oh fuck off, I'm either getting drunk or playing Rimworld then.

>>1846110
wow that looks cool

>>1846268
Wow I actually died of an infection, thought it would be the exposure to the corpses but it's the infection that got me.

>>1846110
gawddamn, almost makes me want to play b42. hoping when 42 comes out offically there is enough 'hype' around the game still just imagine the possibilities with rts mechanics. I honestly wish Lemmy would get his chode out of his mouth and just off these guys jobs, aren't they sitting on millions due to the game blowing up with b41mp?

>>1845567 (OP)
>winter themed image in the middle of summer
Zombros… we lost the OP

>>1845818
Probably just the sheer volume of the zomboids combined with the nerfs to melee and firearms. Without a mod to tweak the firearms, like "Advanced Trajectory" or being a melee gigachad it can be a pain to clear even with B41 settings. I killed like 4k zombies in that one location + maybe a few hundred walking there from Westpoint for somewhat mediocre loot (even with loot settings turned up!). Its not worth IMO.

>>1845818
People don't understand how to play the game. You can fight infinite zombies if you just retain enough stamina to outrun them enough to get to a place to catch a breather. Or you have a car.

>>1846474
not playing with sprinters is cheating for this reason.

>>1846474
Fighting and training around thousands of zombies, especially with the nerfs to combat, is absurdly tedious. Its not really fun nor difficult its just kind of...eh?

>Westpoint spawn
>I'm inside the town center
ha-ha I'm in danger.
sprinters/eagle/pinpoint etc

>>1846312
>aren't they sitting on millions due to the game blowing up with b41mp?
14mil
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/08650737/filing-history
lemmy is wiping his tears with bands

>>1846581
after taxes it's probably more like 14k

how is there no mod to decrease zombie damage to doors? a horde tearing through a garage door almost instantly is absurd.

>10 years later and life hasn't gotten any easier
>driving the highway in indiana trying to get my way down to kentucky
>have a map and rumors of a sanctuary at the rosewood prison
>started with a bleeding gunshot wound to the head
>staunched it and immediately got speared across the arms by raiders a few streets over
>ran into the forest to lose them and washed in a creek
>every deserted house is picked over, working van was a godsend
>pre-1993 cassettes for immersive ambiance
>stop-and-go tactics *barely* escaping the horde every time I try to snatch something
>praying the bridge in brandenburg isn't blocked as I slowly inch my way there
I'll get to rosewood one way or another
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Hx0MlVlTVs

Do npc work in multiplayer? The bandit mod+day 1 is unironicly some of the most fun I've had with this game everything is so chaotic.

>>1846722
soVl

>>1846793
>Do things that aren't in the game, work in the game-mode that also isn't in the game
What the fuck are you asking for? The game has no NPC's or multiplayer.

>>1846110
Comes out tomorrow maybe, i have never played with NPC mods (but i did watch some gameplay the bombing one i guess, that's week one iirc?)
Any tips/experiences with knox event expanded?

I just bought Zomboid, can't wait to get mogged :3

Louisville ere I go~

>>1847149
do it with sprinters+bandit mod+day 1 it's so atmespheric despite how buggy it is.
>spawn in, rando civies fighting zeds
>emergency services out and about
>police+army last stands
>car alarms blaring
>heli's blaring emergency broadcasts telling people to stay inside and not approach 'crazed individuals'
>map gets periodically bombed
>roaming gangs fighting each other+zeds+government while they loot
Pure chaos and really exciting.

>>1846793
I think KEE and maybe bandits works in MP on the b41 versions, but you're stuck with split screen on b42. I heard there's some jank mod to re-enable actual MP on nexus or something but it'll probably be the same quality as the mod for B41 that deleted that line of code blocking MP - IE desynced and unplayable without anything done yet

>>1847221
Well sad, when 42mp finally comes out in the following decade :^) we should do a server with bandits+day 1 with LV spawns or something. could be some fun chaotic few hours before we get bored by how slow zomboid normally is.

>>1846722
>sprinters
based

I haven't played in quite a while, how's 42? I always felt like a proper hunting mechanic was missing from my innawoods playthroughs, is it worth trying again?
Also was unarmed combat changed at all? Just shoving zombies down and stomping them in kinda sucks, I wish you could learn figthing styles and go Mike Tyson on the zeds.

>>1847455
b42 is in a very broken state, more so than b41's questionable design choices. Also lacks mods due to this however some retards released build 42 only versions despite this.

>>1846722
>slept overnight in the van, found a wary family who let me park outside
>move on in the morning and build up supplies from all the houses out in the sticks
>speed past one isolated residence when I see a mob of infected crossing the street ahead
>they ignore my van and go after the house
>while looting the next house I hear a woman's long shriek from the direction I came
>start looting every third house instead to pick up speed, reach New Middletown
>it's not on the Ohio like I thought, some other smaller river
>turn back and leave town with a blond scavenger with cornrows named Gaven who had the same idea
>we head west and find a spot to camp for the night out in some farmland
this wigger is the Charon that will see me across the Styx into Kentucky

>>1847113
The one with bombing is Week One. It's intended more to kill you or serve as a constantly-interesting short playthrough rather than a serious long term one. KEE is the best NPC mod currently and is designed in-line with the devs own plans for NPCs, so you could go read old mon/thursdoids and get a pretty good idea of what he's trying to do. Soldiers currently enforce the curfew and exist at the checkpoint, NPCs have their own groups and generated bloodlines/families and explore out into the world to scavenge. It's still pretty basic but leagues ahead of anything else modders or Lemmy have made publicly playable.

3.0 seems pretty significant, he's shown off stuff like NPCs driving vehicles and having dynamic dialogue IE weather, injuries to certain areas before. Not sure precisely what will be included in the release. Factions and some dialogue for sure, as well as very basic scripted story beats like zombies attacking a safehouse. The modability of those scripted events has me very excited, imagine a thousand NPC script mods in the workshop for different roadside random events like Skyrim instead of truemusic addons or server repacks

>>1847113
>re: tips
Chat up people by doing all the dialogue options before asking them to join. If they're in a family it's harder, but I don't think they care about leaving their group if it's all randos. If one of their family members is already in your group they always join in my experience, so it's worth trying RNG to snag one person and then you can scoop up two or three more.

You can always damage hostiles regardless of your PVP toggle, so I just leave friendly fire off. You'll hurt your own people otherwise. Aim at them from afar and see if your reticle turns red to know if they're hostile, otherwise it's usually obvious by what they're wearing (bikers & rangers are dickheads). You can briefly switch PVP on to kill somebody but there's usually not much point in proactively murdering them; they do have good stuff, but you can walk in and grab it and leave before they turn hostile anyway. It takes a bit to get them mad by doing that, hunger eventually turns them hostile too so you can leave areas around them alone to 'farm' them and keep them alive. IME it's useful to have at least a few around a town long term to ambiently clear/distract zombies like a web of satellite decoys.

There's one spot in every safehouse where they consolidate most of the loot, usually a closet shelf or wardrobe near the front door. Soldiers do abide by curfew but I've seen them around even at other times and they will fire on you/your vehicle. They spawn mostly around Rosewood/Muldraugh, so if you go hide in a cabin or even Doe Valley or something you wouldn't see them.

I don't think player-built buildings (or basements) play well with the NPC pathing or zones for bases. They'll still follow you around and survive but stop being able to get to food in your storage and other issues. Otherwise the safehouse system works and you can make them useful wood slaves.

>>1847489
>NPCs have their own groups and generated bloodlines/families
Rimworld about to have competition for most depraved modding community.

>>1847528
Zomboid does not even reach Rimworld's toes when it comes to cruelty against NPCs and it never will

>>1847540
meatwall must retvrn

>>1847464
Any mods that add bows or javelins for hunting?

>>1847553
yes, I believe I saw one for throwing weapons and I believe bows are in vanilla42. Innawoods players eatin' good with 42 but nutrition numbers and crafting mechanics are jank as ever. No idea if you still need to eat raw sticks of butter and fish to not become underweight in it though.

>>1847552
>building walls of dead zeds and aborted fetuses to protect you and youre "wives"
imagine

>>1847575
That's just Negan from TWD

>>1847582
>TWD
Couldn't make it past season 4 but I admit the first season was amazing. Anyway, sounds about right with NPC's offical or not the community should strive to match that energy with mods.

>>1847593
It's okay up to the finale with the Saviours but it turns into mega doo doo from there, it's still going though currently the main enemy is a group of slavers who cosplay as stormtroopers.
The spinoff series though? Holy fuck that shit sucks so bad.

>>1847595
honestly didn't even like it much when I watched it and looking back I only really enjoyed season 1. Daryl carried it Is likely why I didn't jump ship season 2.

Thinking about NPC dialogue and how it could be implemented well. I know CK2 is their inspiration for personality, but I remember this game I played as a kid, Urbz on the GBA, had a robust minigame.

You start a conversation and get three topics. Each topic gave a different response based on the NPC, raising or lowering relationship score. You could simply look at most of the characters - or get a few topics in - and get a good idea of what they liked and what they didn't, but all had a few thorns to keep it mixed. It was more unpredictable for late-game ones. Some of them told you secrets, cooking recipes or useful strategies. Most of the time the speech was just comedic or interesting blurb text from their life with a minor REL nudge in either direction, then after you selected it you got a new set.

A similar system could be applied for casual conversation here. There would still be a handful of 'story' characters with unique lines, but for the most part it would be randomly generated preset dialogues with maybe a couple of topics linked in tandem to keep a consistent timeline. Selected topics in a box and overhead text.
>Learned lockpicking from dad (hobbies, crime, family topics)
>Family fled city (vehicles, city, 'day 1' topics)
>Lost family to raiders in [raider spawnpoint] (bandits, crime, death, family topics)
Talking to a woman about crime could lead to either her talking about knowing how to pick locks, or the time her family got massacred. A hungry looter won't teach you how to cook or even like you bringing up food. If they know you well they might get furious and verbally throw something awful in your face. It changes based on the person and their mood and disposition, so you could sus out lies by getting them drunk or asking around.

In practice, you'd paint a unique cast of survivors and world out of all the overlapping tales and chatter learned over time. I just want 'Louisville' as a topic so I can hear all the horror stories over a campfire.

Is there a Project GeorgeFloyd mod?

>>1847662
you don't need a mod to be able to act out your urban fantasies

>>1847667
>The Rosewood Riots
It was fun.

>>1847623
God damn, this game. Urbz was so fucking peak.

>>1847667
kek, are there big multiplayer servers you can do stuff like this in?

>>1847781
This was on one of the /v/ servers when MP was released.

>>1847837
several actually, though at different times.

>>1847849
>one of the /v/ servers

thinking this mod to "increase building hp" isn't balanced...

>>1847852
wrong image
>>1847850
sorry, prolonged unemployment is making me retarded.

>>1847977
Why?

>>1847852
Notgay deserved better. He was a good friend

>>1848071
>>1847978
100k hp table. But I have zeds buffed to high hell so it evens out.

>someone made a mod that added RE inventory into zomboid
amazing, I wsh this was vanilla because the compatibility patches are anoying. Also needing to search inventories adds a lot more depth to the game though it has it's oddities.

>>1847667
this is why i never bothered with zomboid pvp
realistically you would hear a naked retard bum rushing through a broken window and through a room towards you

also not going to get any solid hits in with a pan vs someone wearing a armored helmet

>>1847489
that scripting thing sounds insanely kino
has he indicated how easy/hard it is to make custom events?

>>1848334
>no dev to take on Raccoon City, the plagas village in 4, Africa in 5, Baker Manor in 7 and Romanian village in 8

>>1848334
i'm still waiting for the RE zombie sounds mod to get updated lol
i hate the hissing/growling shit of the vanilla zombies

>>1848732
TLOU mod's runner sounds are better too, they actually sound like people screaming or throwing a tard rage fit instead of doing rapid pants and thin shrieks like horses about to fuck

>>1847562
Nah, no bows or crossbows of any kind in vanilla 42, some crossbow mods but the only bow mod is not updated for 42.

There's something interesting to me that rimworld's "true" playthrough with as much official content as possible would more closely resemble a technocult out of 40k (rituals and anomalies, spacer-tech everywhere, psycasting and the empire, ships) than a lightly sci-fi wild west setting.

Back when the game launched I thought post launch content would basically be Vanilla Factions Expanded - Settlers and lean into the setting's original theme, at most adding new ancient ruins or preset religions since the kickstarter had them listed. I like the psycultist stuff better so I'm not dogging on it or anything but the wild west stuff got kind of lost in the weeds for going full spacer, one tribal gimmick tree per expack doesn't change that

>Patch 0.3.0-1
>This patch requires an update to the class files. This means that you need to reinstall the mod.
>This is also a breaking change. Your old npcs will not be recoverable.
>Patch notes:

>Completely redesign how npcs are organized architecturally. This is the main cause if the breaking change.

>Add framework for npc stories.
>Make npcs dynamically visit relatives and neighbours in order to group up.
>Make npcs form factions automatically once their group reaches 8 members.
>Allow the player to form a faction once they have at least 8 members in their group (excluding the player).
>Add framework for defining dialogue trees.
>Add possibility of defining safehouses manually.
>Add new FindItemSubTree behavior for fetching required items.
>Make npcs fetch an axe if available in safehouse before trying to chop trees.
>Make npcs fetch a hammer, planks, and nails for barricading instead of spawning in items on-demand.
>Add basic farming - npcs can plow, plant, and water (if given a container with water)
>Add ugly npc radial with placeholder icons (Default: Hold Tab)
>Add buttons for resetting npcs completely as well as deleting files containing npc data via the "Load Game" menu in-game.

>Known issues:
>This is a massive change to how all data is stored. If you run into any issues, please report it on Discord together with the logs, so I can deal with all of these issues.

>The procedural generation UI has a safeguard in itself where if a tick takes more than 1 second, it will auto stop. This number of npcs will 100% not work with your PC, but the actual cutoff is lower. This will be improved in coming patches.
>Scavenging seems to get stuck sometimes. It will be fixed in v0.3.1.
>Some seed types are not identified correctly when npcs try to plant.
>Seeds have to be unpackaged for npcs to identify them correctly.
>Npcs can't refill any fluid container so that they can water plants (use rain collectors)

every NPC mod will be janky garbage until Pissdie Stone completely revamps the combat and PVP

>>1849154
>Good news everyone! We have hired the very talented mod maker Snejk. We will put his skills to use right away on a minigame for pissing and shitting!
Then Knox Event Expanded gets removed from the workshop because he is "too busy" to work on it

>>1849162
i don't think theres anyway to revamp it
the old 2D combat system, guns (and most melee weapons) were insta kill. that works well in a game intended for you to quickly drop-in and start roleplaying a pre-made character
but theres no roleplay anymore, people don't wanna lose their 20000000 hour unmodded caveman runs
"survival crafting" ruined the game

>>1849240
this is so easily solved if the occupations actually gave the related skills one would have.

>>1849246
bingo. there should never be recipes and items locked behind dozens of hours of grinding. it should be item locked and class locked instead. so if you want to learn new recipes you find the book for it, not grind for 20 hours so you can learn how to build a chair or whatever the fuck.

>>1849290
Not exactly sure what you mean when you say class locks but you should be able to learn how to make chairs if you started as a doctor or to become a doctor if you got the right books. Anyway I've been using this mod lately and it feels right along with starting gear. Though the latter mod could use tweaks (rangers carry guns irl but don't start with one, instead having a trap for some reason?)

I'd just like to know how exactly you imagine what playing with the NPCs is going to be like if melee pvp combat looks like this >>1847667
it will be nothing but an extremely frustrating experience if anyone can jump you with a tire iron and then stomp on your nuts while you're phasing out of the third dimension on your 6 months old character you've been playing every day for the past 3 weeks trying to grind the three million skills the game expects you to
no wonder they haven't released the NPCs yet, they'd get shit on so fucking hard it wouldn't even be funny anymore

>>1849415
Not that I represent other Anons but I only really want NPC's for simulating LV checkpoint collapse and day 1 chaos. Maybe the occasional story event where you see a survivor just before he dies, stuff like that. Base automation with NPC's would be cool though I'm fine being lone wolf who never interacts with the living.

>see zeds ahead across from open warehouse
>put my bag down and get my crowbar open incase any are inside
>alarm insta triggers
>stealthsprint the hell out to hide in a car
well so much for my bag of stuff

>zomb runs up behind me
>turn around to push them away
>bites me on the chest through three layers

>>1849506
>run around spamming Q
>lead zombies away
>get bag
congrats you beat zomboid

>>1849600
>he plays with sprinters off

>>1849882
Twice as many is probably just the old number, without the retarded system on.

>>1849921
The 'old' number was actually quite low, what this new dumbass system is, has more than doubled zombie counts but made huge areas devoid of them.
But because they randomly wander it just spreads them out evenly anyways.

>>1849600
>>1849602
This is why I wish we could have SCUM and zomboid mixed together

In scum you can throw random objects like bottles, flares, bricks etc and it will distract zombies while you sneak around.
Zomboid needs that BADLY and it wouldn't even be difficult to implement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q6xcXoBG0g
>New video is out
>They basically just made a patch fixing shit they broke on purpose to give plausible deniability
>And added some minecraft HD texture pack fire sprites
>Oh and nerfed fishing, enjoy starving you fucking goyim

>>1849956
>and it wouldn't even be difficult to implement
For a modder maybe, TIS couldn't get it working this decade. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if there's already a mod that does that.

>>1850002
42.10 has been out for well over a week THOUGH

>>1850002
>you need to reel in in order to have higher chance of catching bigger predator fish
I thought you have to reel in when you fish with spinners and not with living bait because it's already wiggling on the hook.

>>1851011
Implying Lemmy ever went fishing in his faggoty life?
Winding-in 'can' attract predator's attention, but honestly if they're around they're going to bite the bait anyways. Predators eat bait if it's moving or not.

this man was a prophet

>>1853074
Didn't the zomboid devs "PAWS" game not even come out? Fuckers are so lazy the Zomboid mascot is proof of their incompetence.

NPC status?

>>1853101
Nigger the developers can't balance fucking float variables.
What fucking chance do you think they have of making functioning NPC's?
They're so bad at maths that baby rabbits weighing a handful of grams, have more calories than 800kg cows.

The funny part about modders making shit work better than the devs is that modders don't really have access to the inner part of the game like the devs do and mostly work on surface level stuff.
Imagine being such shitty devs you can't fucking fix your game but modders can.

>>1851639
Speaking of fishing, why did they remove spear fishing instead of just nerfing it?
It's like they only care about realism when it makes the game less fun.

>>1853367
probably because they didn't want people to avoid interacting with their gay ass new fishing minigame or didn't felt like making a separate one for spear fishing

>>1853367
The average joe in the 90s doesn't understand the concept of using a long pointy stick to stab things.

>>1853379
I think they might figure it out ten years into the apocalypse.

Should I download this game on SSD or is HDD fine?

>>1854582
Why would you ever use an HDD for a game if you have an SSD

>>1853074
lmao damn

>>1854582
hdd, i never noticed a difference when i had it on an ssd, loading times are probably cpu bound

>>1854769
prob makes a difference if you use a lot of mods
plus aren't SSDs now cheaper than HDD's? hell even good M.2's are cheaper than both SDD and HDD
I don't know how anyone still uses HDD's nowadays

>>1854582
SSD

>>1855059
>I don't know how anyone still uses HDD's nowadays
i have 2 from years ago that i still use to store my torrented kinos, i don't see no reason to scrap them

>>1855059
HDDs are still good as archive drives because I can get a 10TB HDD for less than the price of a 4TB m.2 or SSD, but I'd never play a game off them anymore.

>>1855059
>plus aren't SSDs now cheaper than HDD's? hell even good M.2's are cheaper than both SDD and HDD
not for price per capacity
if you want max capacity for lowest price its still hdd and not even close

>>1849594
IMO it makes the most sense to turn off infection mortality. A basic denim shirt would ward of 99% of zambie nibbles and the only real vector for infection would be blood splatters and accidental exposure.

When do the NPCs in Knox event expanded start roaming? So far everyone i met had a SO and were just protecting/hanging around their house. I went to Echo creek to base up for a bit as i raided Irvington, it has been 15 days and electricity and water are off atm. I plan to visit the LV perimeter, would the soldiers still enforce curfew even 2 weeks in? I've also read (somewhere) that south of rosewood there are soldiers? Should i swing by...

>>1856891
Have you tried playing the game vanilla so you can be more pissed off?

why don't the devs just hire modders to do npcs, what the fuck is actually wrong with them?

>>1857007
why hire modders for NPCs when you can hire modders to make fishing minigame?

>>1857020
whynotboth.webp

>>1857007
Leftist ideology is centered around hoping the world changes according to your actions, instead of you changing to the world's actions.
Accordingly, they have zero intention of hiring the people needed to finish the game, they literally hope the world manifests the game for them.

>>1857022
nigger

>>1857007
Cause last time they hired a modder that made NPCs, they put him to work on fishing.

>>1857001
Wouldn't be caught dead playing vanilla, i'll post about what happens once i drive over there.

>>1857116
Swinged through rosewood, no survivors or military south of it, went to march ridge to clear some annotated maps in the residential block, there were only 2, none of who wanted to join me.
Running next to muldraugh, nothing pinged my walkie so i just flew by, looted it earlier in the week.
West point was next, no survivors at all throught the whole city (weird), maybe 200 blocks isn't enough to encompass the city proper if you drive the main road.
Up the highway, based in the ruby gas station as i took a rest for a night. No military at the checkpoint, busted a hole in the east fence and entered LV.
Driving right in the middle of LV at 20 fps, nobody pinged my radio, i decided to cut my losses and just go to AA'rons guns and dip, BUT i got pinged at the east end (finally) found a survivor home with 4 people (2 joined me on the spot, other 2 were married apparently) to outfit the new gang i went to the surplus store by the docks, well..
Of the 1264 npcs, it seems that i found only 6 by gunning it down the main roads of rosewood, march ridge, muldraugh, west point, LV, either they all died or everyone is hiding.
Oh well, returning to echo creek with my milsurp kitted slaves to give them guns.

Conclusion is, no military presence at all anywhere after 2 weeks (LORE ACCURATE), i didn't find any corpses of the soldiers at the checkpoint, to be fair, i didn't delve deep into it but there were no soldier zombies at all.

>>1857272
>Swinged

Why is the faggot in charge of Week One making it worse?

I want to make zomboid cartoons. How do I rip the models for blender? Is there like a resource for this somewhere?

>>1857344
Devs paid him off

>>1857343
SWUNG*

>>1857344
QRD? I only played it a bunch of times during the early hype.

Indiestone is playing the long game. NPCs are a major feature that can define Project Zomboid’s future. By hiring experienced modders for other foundational tasks first, Indie Stone is ensuring that when NPCs do arrive, they’ll be stable, meaningful, and worth the wait.

>>1857428
Plane hitting players for no reason.

>>1845567 (OP)
should i turn this on

>>1857591
Defenses are useless, they're just for aesthetics. Your best defense is still clearing 1-2 screens worth of space around your base.
That said, rebuilding shit because you didn't notice a zombie bashing against your shit is annoying, so yes turn it on.

>>1857635
>rebuilding shit because you didn't notice a zombie bashing against your shit is annoying, so yes turn it on.
so i should let zombies be able to attack my base without knowing? that doesn't sound awful. ok.

Someone tell TIS to do a thursdoid on the remaining crafitng professions they need to finish and multiplayer news. The intermittent patches and balance stuff are nothingburgers and its been 7 months since the beta and its still boring as fuck.

>>1857654
they don't look at any social media and never respond to comments. maybe an email to one of their work accounts would get noticed.
they live in an echo chamber.

>>1857346
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31H54TpJjSA
this may help

>>1857643
NTA but I think he meant turn it off. Zombies will basically tear through any defenses you've built in like two irl hours, tops.
I hate going out for a ride and coming back to my base just to find my walls all fucked up. Most people will base up in fixed locations on the map to avoid that.

>>1857720
>Have to join the official discord
Aren't the devs ban happy? I heard they banned one of the youtubers for pointing out the AI loading screens.

>>1858246
nta but you don't have to join their discord you can get the fbx files yourself from workshop mods

Should I play stable or latest build?
What do you guys play?

Is there any potential for zomboid but also with settlements and npc management? Like is that something that is theoretically possible

>kill a deer
>butcher it
>can't skin it because I need a butcher hook for it
>kill another
>can't pack it inside a car because it is too heavy
>literally driving around with planks, nails and hammer to build butcher hooks on the spot when I kill the next one
Yup, can't hang the deer from the tree to cut it up, people just couldn't skin animals until butcher hook was invented. Sounds realistic as fuck to me.

>>1858346
The average 90's survivalist wouldn't know how to skin a deer without previously constructed infrastructure
People did not skin animals for any purpose until wooden housing was available.

>>1858353
Shouldn't a park ranger know how to at least field dress a deer though?

>>1858399
The average park ranger of 1993 only knew how to walk through trees a little faster than normal people, and not much else.

>>1858329
Stable. B42 is a meme.

>Try bandits week one
>Set infection to everyone's infected
>Kill someone to start the apocalypse early
>He doesnt reanimate
Disappointing

>small young tree can total a multi ton car instead of getting flattened
>saplings can bring a car to a crawl instead of getting flattened
offroading is nearly impossible after a few months when all the trails are starting to get overgrown

>>1858942
This may be no longer working. But you used to be able to equip and axe and enable chop wood so you would get the green outline for the trees and saplings so you could avoid them while driving.

Sorry for the retarded written post

>>1857591
I think it’s immersive to see the world get more and more run down organically. Expect most buildings to have missing doors and windows very quickly. Which makes sense. This of course means if you want to base up you might have to learn some carpentry

>>1849240
You’ve posted this same clip for months. Is this the ONLY time you’ve done PVP or something? It’s reached the point where I recognise it just from the fucking thumbnail. Give it a rest

>>1858942
Yup, this was super annoying when I played one year later and tried to get to the cabin in the woods by the radio station. It would basically be faster to walk than drive a car because you constantly had to get out to chop down foliage.

>>1859536
Sauce me up

>>1859536
>pic
what has to happen in someone's life for them to want to draw something like this?

>>1859576
You mean lewding zombies or drawing shitty OCs with "likes/dislikes"?

>>1859536
hot bodytype wasted on a shitty zombie OC

>>1859576
The zombie aspect is irrelevant, its the artist's style of drawing thick, but not disgusting women with fat pubes and an even fatter pussy. A bit disappointing that their r34 gallery is pretty sparse though.

>>1859770
nta but I draw various things and I was surprised to find out how weirdly popular zombie girls are.

>>1859537
>>1859537
It's been longer than that, I lived there at the Louisville hospital too. I think the video is from 12 January 2023.

>>1845567 (OP)

It was only bad because it wasn't produced by Christians.

>>1859537
Greg here
I've posted it only once after I made it, everything after that are reposts by someone else
that pvp interaction also killed the entire serb it took place on, error2k had a hissy fit in the general afterwards and his entire group that was living in the hospital left with him

>>1859929
That entire group was just one other guy, me. I think it was just one clique of 4-5 people and us three playing there though.

Not sure if I actually quit after that, I think I had this house in the same server. It was a nice house.

>>1859956
I wonder how many people that played on the /pzg/ serbs still care about the game
can't believe it's going to be almost 4 years since B41 MP came out, it's crazy

>>1859973
>oh boy the zombie apocalypse
>time to start that book club I always wanted!

>>1860048
comfy

>>1860213
It is, it just always makes me think of that Twilight Zone episode though.

>>1860048
i'd join a book club that had a thin moderately attractive woman doing squats in her panties

>>1859973
I think I'm in that webm.

>>1860048
God I'm glad that TIS finally added a reading speed to the singleplayer sandbox options.

>>1860836
your the jar of peanut butter

>>1860856
I think I was the retard sitting on the right.

Does this count as post nuke? I went into my basement after a helicopter dropped pamphlets and the world exploded after I got a tip about a plane being above me.

I want to start exploring but I'm willing to stay indoors if it still hasn't dropped.

>>1861797
Nevermind, zombies started spawning inside my basement and I got pulled down.

>>1861876
Why did the week one mod maker do that gay shit

>>1861975
It could be a consequence of the new ragnoll that sends bodies into orbit fallout 3 style. Maybe the corpses are there, but the models are in the stratosphere before they reanimate.

>>1861975
>download NPC slop
>expect it not be slop

>>1861797
In retrospect, the death was deserved. I was inentionally hunkering down for the nuke event so I can do Threads Larp, but I picked westpoint which only had the hardware store as the guaranteed big basement spawn and I didnt want to prep there because it would have had respawning owners till the end. I used whatever basement I could find and it was studio sized no matter how I honeycombed it. I probably wouldnt have gotten pulled down if I had something with multiple rooms.

Do you need a sledgehammer to open these doors now? Back in b41 they could be dismantled just like any other door in the game.

How do I actually learn how to play this game?

>>1862688
The most fun way is to just keep playing and exploring simple concepts until the blocks start lining up. It will take a while, you'll probably have no idea where you are, and you'll probably waste a fuckton of time, but you'll have a ton of fun memories in the process.
The most efficient way is to set loot to max, turn zombies off, set power and water to eternal, and have a map and wiki/youtube tutorial on your second monitor and individually scrutinize every mechanic and interaction. Study how cars are hotwired and replaced, how generators are repaired, how each shop organizes its loot spawns (book shelves, shopping shelves, tool shelves etc) and then find the most efficient and sustainable weapons to use and laser focus on just one class to manage your exp.

>>1862686
These doors have a lot of hp, just hack it with an axe for a while, they will break.

>>1862686
The option to dismantle locked door have been removed in B42, so you'll have to break it (you can use any weapon but axes are faster iirc) or find the key.

Week One should really be in the base game. I can't imagine playing without it anymore.

>>1863143
They're decent giving you bandit bases to attack, but I think superb survivors are better overall though its at least more demanding performance wise.
>Run into superb survivor
>He's minding his own business trying to loot a building
>He doesn't make a beeline for the player and instead stops and warns the player before brandishing
>His melee attacks aren't magnetic and fighting him up close feels like youre both playing under the same rules
But yeah, max pop superb survivors in Louisville is crazy laggy. Theyre all setting up bases, looting and relocating resources and forming factions complete with joining dialogue so you know whos who.

>>1863155
I tried Louisville and had like 3 FPS the whole time.

>>1863157
What I like to do is use both mods. Low pop Superb survivors (like 1% spawn, 20 max) for friendlies and roamers so you can have organic interactions while exploring. Then I set my bandits as defenders so I can have fun raids with my team of friendlies.

>>1863155
>>1863157
you now realize NPCs will never ever happen

>>1863536
TIS would make it frustraing and somehow grindy. They'll probably add another skill tree that takes 7 ranks to convince an npc to water the crops and a magazine to get them to board your car. It'll be like kenshi with permadeath, except the npcs have a single digit percentage to spawn and it'll have multiple skill requirements to build the silence of the lambs room that let you train speech on a captive.

>>1859973
was this that AI slop server that had a meltdown when someone said nigger on it?

>>1862686
Perfect example of why axe+spear chads are the best build.
>Oh shit, a locked door!
Just smash it with a stone axe and it'll break with ease.

>>1863996
AI slop in 2022 was still at the level of Will Smith eating spaghetti

>liquid system released 8 months ago
>none of the updates expanded upon the chemistry system after 8 months

>blacksmith system released 8 months ago
>recipes mildly changed; survival-craft shitty ore lump coming out of the ground added; it doesn't even spawn on the main map

>pottery system added 8 months ago
>justification is that you can make clay pipes (literally redundant in a zombid apocalypse since you have thousands of kilometers worth of regular pipes everywhere)
>nothing expanded upon it after 8 months

>>1866822
they should just opensource it and let people finish it for them

>>1866810
Don't let them psyop you into thinking it's a 'beta', B41 still wasn't fucking finished when B42 released. The whole game is a beta, and every update is exactly to the standards the developers are happy with (that is to say, no standards at all).

belive it or not the game is still early access

>>1870630
early access into the retarded mind of lemmy

>>1870630
>Early
Usually when people refer to 'early' they don't mean almost one and a half decades.

I LOVE ENERGY DRINKS

is this mod good

>>1872118
>Anachronistic mod
Garbage tier taste, I envy the day normalfags realize why proper adherence to settings is better.

Where is the VG for Project Zomboid?

>>1872346
we ain't moving to /vg/ with an average thread speed of 5 posts a day

>>1872346
until multiplayer is released along with the full initial crafting that was planned theres no point
If they act retarded and release the multi with the current crafting itll die just like before.

>>1872118
I just want early b42 glitched soda so I can give my guy infinite energy.

>>1872354
Well its 5 posts a day because its not in VG, and why is it in vm? PZ is mainly a singleplayer game.

>>1872359
I always die before i even get to craft anything so

>>1872497
nobody gives a shit about this game anymore, if you want to make a thread on /vg/ and be on bump duty all day then be my guest

>>1872497
>Well its 5 posts a day because its not in VG,
its in /vg/ because the general kept dying and youre delusional if you think b42 has garnered enough interest to keep the general bumped at all times.

Have there been any new cool custom maps? (Not unfinished garbage)

I want a map with lots of lewd things! Playboy bunny mansions, stripclubs, hooters, red light districts, madri gras!

>see a mod that i have been waiting on has been updated to b42
>ok ill reinstall
>wait where is it?
>"the original modder has disallowed reuploads so i took it down"
BRUH

>>1872914
If you were subbed to it, you still have it downloaded. Go to the page of the mod that got delisted and fine the number ID at the top, then find the folder in PZs steam workshop shit on your PC and it will be there. Either reupload it and tell the OG dev to stfu and suck on one or move it to a local mod folder (pref the first because copyright is retarded)

>>1872914
The devs also ban you if you recreate someone's mod but do it better. Lmao.

>>1872497
Go make your /vg/ thread and see how long it lasts

>>1872118
Ultra Sunrise for me

>>1845567 (OP)
>come discuss one of the worst cases of project mismanagement in indie videogame history
Is it worse than Cataclysm's?

>>1857654
Thursdoids are too much stress for the team, man... Just wait patiently! :^)

>>1845567 (OP)
Why're you shitting on the Zomboid devs? I think they do a good job.

>>1845567 (OP)
I'm not playing this game until they add NPCs

anons dont google "zomboid release date"
biggest mistake of my life

>>1874724
when i was a kid i used to play this and would pretend like i was beating her up and killing her and then my father came in 1 night and saw and told me to play the game properly or i cant play it at all

>>1875296
When i play with superb survivors the female survivors (white) that i recruit are given permanent positions in my base as my wives.
I take my squad of males and nonwhites and we raid westpoint stripclub so my wives can wear bunny suit, even it means i have to abandon 5 men to horrible zombie death.

>>1846991
>No Multiplayer
Yeah, I'm not playing B42 until and unless it updates for MP. Fuck this game without it, its not worth the time.

>>1875541
It's my favorite game so I might be biased but really I don't mind waiting, I know there is definitely some valid criticism of the development and the development team but I feel like y'all go a little to hard on them

anyone know about making mods? I want to make a simple one but i'm not making a discord acc.

>>1876318
Yeah, Do you have a IRC or something you want to use?

>>1876318
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Category:Modding
this helped me a bit making my shitty mods

>2025 and the developers still don't understand the difference between horsepower and torque
>They think a fucking corvette is going to lug around trailers better than a 4x4 turbo-diesel would
So what is the list of confirmed outdoor activities the developers have never experienced?
>Drinking rainwater
>Driving cars over grass, actually driving cars in general
>Swinging bats/axes/etc
>Sewing
>Fishing

>>1876808
They should just implement a power attack so arcing weapons can have multi hit without redditors whining. Maybe different classes of weapons gets special utility, like knives jawstab from that button and spears head stab with it. Less accidental input, more consistent gameplay, better tools for the player.

>>1876880
While we're at it, I think all weapons should have a sneak attack, i dont see why you can't one hit a zombie with a hammer or axe when they're completely unaware of you.

>>1874724
this art style looked better

You stupid chuds need to accept that PZ isn't in early access, it's already been released

>>1877011
i think you guys can be hyperbolically spergy about PZ but holy shit are they fucking retarded? what does this even mean?
>it's in early access but we don't really like to say that it's in early access because the game is already released but we don't want people to think that it's NOT in early access so we're going to call it early access even though it IS released

>>1877011
Leftists provide the most mindbogglingly insane mental gymnastics.
>It is NOT in early access, we consider it 'released'
>But it has the early access tag, the game is not finished, and every time someone complains we use 'early access lol' as an excuse

>>1877024
>>1877031
ummm akchually PZ is a released game under active development, it's not early acces :)

>>1877037
Embarrassing cope on their behalf, they should know better than to be dishonest fools.

>>1877037
and the link in the first paragraph leads to.. a waybackmachine snapshot of their original blog

>>1877042
>Retro-isometric style
Lol nopes, endow Sims 1.5 graphics because we're too lasy to animate sprites
>Massive city to explore and loot
True, it's huge, and fucking empty. What's to loot?
>Open ended
Advertising that your game is shit on purpose is dumb
>Get infected bla bla bla
Everyone just starts a new character once 'queasy' shows up
>Meet other survivors
Lol nope, not even MP is available in the current version of the game
>Loot to survive the apocalpyse
You mean grab a hammer, an axe and some nails and you're basically 99% set?
>advanced item crafting
The game has crafting on the complexity of fucking minecraft, get over yourselves
>Character progression
Yeah if you increase XP gains to x5 or play like a sweatlord for IRL months? Just to do things a regular 95IQ human can do IRL
>Starvation/illness/etc
You mean bandage yourself and stay fed and you've won the game? Big whoop. There isn't even drugs or insanity ingame
>Join your-
NOPE LOL!
>The world changes when-PFFTTTFARD
No it doesn't, the power turns off and all that does is make night-time more annoying, there's no army either
>Play in your browser
WUT!
Holy shit they lied about almost every TLDR!

>>1874460
Ive waited so long and got bored I got snagged into playing a gacha game. If lemmy only properly released b42.

>>1872987
Are you fucking serious?

>>1878688
Depends on if the mod maker gets pissy that you are trying to steal his 'patreon-bucks' or not.
You can probably get away with treading on a few toes, but if you upset the wrong person they're going to claim you 'stole their mod' and get you banned.

>modders got mapping tools working unofficially since TiS are lazy bastards
Wow neat!
>install some maps, get over to one
>game starts vomiting render errors about cutaways or something
Wow dang.

I just pirated B42 and I gotta say I'm having more fun then I expected, the UI got fucked probably cause I had the wrong mod load order though so I think I'll have to start over, what's the best place to start if I wanna play around with the new animal and wilderness stuff? Also can you build a basement in vanilla or do I need a mod for that?

>>1877057
>Lol nopes, endow Sims 1.5 graphics because we're too lasy to animate sprites
So, improvement over original promise?
>True, it's huge, and fucking empty. What's to loot?
Thousands of houses? Are you mentally ill that cannot survive even day?
>Advertising that your game is shit on purpose is dumb
Yeah, you are mentally ill, it's safe to disregard whatever you say, but i dislike leaving things unifinished.
>Everyone just starts a new character once 'queasy' shows up
Provable lie.
>Lol nope, not even MP is available in the current version of the game
It's was available in past, and be available again.
>You mean grab a hammer, an axe and some nails and you're basically 99% set?
Provable lie.
>The game has crafting on the complexity of fucking minecraft, get over yourselves
Which mean they fullfulled that promice.
>Yeah if you increase XP gains to x5 or play like a sweatlord for IRL months? Just to do things a regular 95IQ human can do IRL
... nope. I done. I cannot handle that level of shizophrenia. Take your meds or simply die.

>>1880243
Back2reddit you go.
Catcha: VAXGY
VAX GAY

NEW UPDATE JUST DROPPED
>added unskippale finger licking animation after eating
>added belly button lint that must be regularly cleaned or face severe depression

>>1881043
Fire nerfed, zombies now assumed to be 'wet' at all times despite the summer sun surely drying them into husks
Now fire only affects a single zombie before being put out
Yes the player still sets on fire if even their toe touches the edge of the camp fire still, the player is assumed to be covered in oils and grease.

>>1881049
>oils and grease
It's all the hair spray and grease they were using back in the 90s surely.

Give me a rundown of the most useless updates this game has ever had, I'm talking updates that are so useless they are almost breaking into maliciousness.

>>1882263
Muscle strain

>>1882263
the entirety of b42
and probably all of b41 too

What's the point of having "armor" like a hunting vest that bums out your character if you wear it too long and even weak shamblers bite through it easily?
Really only shoes and gloves matter honestly.

>>1882263
Almost the entirety of B42.

>>1882551
Animals tho
They fucked the fishing though I hate it.

>>1882555
>Animals tho
I have zero intentions of ever caring about animal husbandry until they fix the bug that suddenly shits out a thousand animals.

>>1882561
I was really missing proper hunting and animal rearing in b41 so I want to disagree but my car died in the middle of nowhere after hitting the invisible hitbox of a rabbits ass and it didn't even kill the rabbit so I'm a bit mad right now.

>>1876808
Walking and doing physical activities in general.

>>1860519
Imagine the smell.

>>1882263
Sprinters/smoker ultranerf. Only ones i can think of.

is there a mod to cut the sleeves/legs off of clothing? need it for my mad max larp

>>1882263
there have been a handful of times that scope creep features (that were long waxed poetic about in blog posts) arrived and pissed even the redditors off because it didn't serve any purpose and made the game worse in some way
>farming overhaul
completely broke farming, half of the growing periods don't even line up so they're impossible to grow, no point in doing anything other than making drying racks and relying on foraging/fishing/animals. now obsolete/redundant content
>big trees
harder to drive and navigate because there's more of the tree sprites rendering over your character, have fun dinging off treelines on back roads
>liquid transfer
makes you navigate a new epic unique menu and clogs up previously simple, common two or three click actions (emptying bottle, transferring liquid) to confer nothingburger features like diluting bleach so one bottle lasts forever
>zombie distribution changes
initially a jumbled mess, before newer implementation had months of zombies filling out wilderness so innawoods was dangerously impossible in the big innawoods update, seems more stable/fixed now
>ragdolls
don't know if it was this or something else that fucked up the combat but it's been blatantly broken for a few patches now, the timing on hitting falling zombies is way off and your character simply doesn't obey with delayed attacks/reactions... you can play around it but it's an open sore they haven't addressed yet which is bizarre. suspect it has something to do with their as yet unseen attempt at melee ragdolls or perhaps the janky teleporation/zombie movement when cars collide with them (especially slowly, seriously just slowly rev into some and watch them)

>>1877042
>>1877057
>>1880243
Final Grade: D (45.83%). See me after class, Lemmy. I've spent all morning carving a paddle

Anyone ever adventure around the zombie world and you'd see a particularly attractively dressed zombie and you'd go "would"?
I do. I do it all the time. I wish there was a way to capture and tame the zombies so I can have a cute zombie harem in my base.

Wtf kind of mutant ass giant catfish is this?
I couldn't even move it at all it's so big.
The saddest part is it only gave 2 regular sized fillets.

>>1889234
I don't know if its a bug, but I've been catching gigantic fish ever since I started playing b42. Like, ones so gigantic that I just drop it by the lake, and bring a table there so I can slice it up.
Not really worth fishing in b42 anyway because its done in real time now.

>>1889234
Blue catfish can grow to 65 kilograms in weight, a 45 kilogram one is pretty huge but not a record breaker.

>>1886985
I get annoyed if they look incongruous, like a black guy (not rotten, black) with long blonde hair in a ponytail or white woman with cornrows

outfit types should just have hair pools to pick from that's randomized the same way they swap out texture and item variations; a valet would have combed hair of some kind and trimmed facial hair or none at all, lumberjacks likely to have beards and so on

>>1886985
I'm not sexually frustrated enough to want to fuck literally everything marginally attractive, including shitty 3D models in a garbage videogame

>>1889234
Is this what they mean when they talk about BBC?

>>1889234
>Fish is dangerous (aka lethal) uncooked
No it fucking isn't.
For that matter MOST meats aren't dangerous uncooked, the only thing which makes them dangerous is potentially parasites (which don't kill you in a day) and rupturing the digestive tract of the animal when processing it which introduces salmonella to the flesh.
You can eat CHICKEN raw and be fine, as long as you aren't a mongoloid when you process it.

>>1890140
I don't think it's 100% lethal every time in the game, it's more like you have a chance of contracting something.

>>1890162
Food listed as 'dangerous' gives you sickness values when eaten, based on it's calories/size.
IIRC eating a single raw egg (safe IRL by the way unless it's a dumbshit bleached egg and even then it's probably not going to kill you) kills you ingame.
Eating a 45 pound/kilogram fish ingame raw absolutely will kill you via maxxing out sickness.

>>1889561
I thought you could put out fishing nets now?

>>1890207
Fish-traps have been in the game for a long time but they only catch baitfish.
Even though IRL if you had to survive you'd make a fish trap that would catch other fish

>>1890207
As that anon said, fishtraps is only for bait fish, and it sucks ass because the nets break unless micromanaged. You know what you can use for bait without extra effort? Maggots. Just come back to a previously cleared zone and loot the zombies for infinite maggots that never go bad.
TIS really wants us to use that gay ass fishing minigame and even removed spear fishing to force us into it. I disliked it when I could fast forward through it, and I hate it even more now that I have to spend real life hours manually grinding for food. Fuck that shit, I'd rather clear zones and loot the canned goods and chips.

>>1874183
if you mean CDDA, yeah
at least you've got the BN fork

>>1890242
>You know what you can use for bait without extra effort? Maggots
And the 1000 fucking bugs you'll find wandering around for a few minutes in the woods which are next to your fishing lake anyways.

>place 10 stick traps to level up trapping
>bait all of them
>bait is consumed, traps breaking but no bird caught after 6 days
trapping is broken or something?

>Firearms do less damage in B42 than B41
>Shooting zombies in the head only has one benefit, ragdolling
lol
lmao even

>>1890260
How often do you check them, and are there zombies nearby?

>>1890336
Damage in general is pointless, crits kill, normal hits don't unless you swing like 10 times.
It makes the entire strength and damage system pointless when it's far more efficient to get massive crits with a wooden spear , than a normal 'hit' with a fucking fireaxe.

>>1890342
Does the game still have upgrades for for certain weapon levels that aren't actually triggered?

>>1890345
Yeah only the axe gains the full bonus IIRC. Others don't get all of em.

>>1890347
The absolute state of TIS.

>>1890341
no zombies around, checking once a day every 24h, 80+ tiles away from my base, wiki says birds don't have specific time to be active and can be caught anytime so I don't get it how I can't catch shit

>>1890361
The average 90's woodland with no human presence had no biosphere. Dumbass.

>>1890336
at high aiming skill you basically one tap zombies, incredibly efficient killing. but good luck getting 7 aiming skill points

>>1890774
I'll just kill them with my infinite spears/stone axes/nail shortbats

Zomboid has this weird developer induced arms race going on between certain weapons being OP and making more obnoxious zombie spawns and gameplay mechanics to counter them.

>>1890367
kek

Does the forge UI suck for anybody else?
You can't just use the crafting menu while standing next to it, you have to click on it and use its own UI and it sucks, you can't close the UI before you're finished crafting, mass crafting doesn't work, it lets you press max to see how many you could craft but when you press craft it just makes one then stops, then you have to exit to UI and reenter it otherwise it won't let you craft anything again.
Is there a mod that fixes this game for b42? Farming, hunting and smithing needs it bad.
Also I would love a mod that got rid of the new fishing.

>>1890774
I always just crank up the xp modifier in the sandbox settings. Im here for roleplaying, not grinding

>>1890965
I always play at x30 exp but I still never use guns. Fuck guns, they were never good but TIS decided to nerf them even more.

>>1891035
guns are only dogshit if you play with the shitty vanilla weapons

any servers or people that are willing to play?

>>1891333
not right now. im tired of bouncing around servers and versions

stupid fucks need to put MP in the unstable branch and never take it out

>>1891345
shame. i get bored once i survive for a few days by myself

>>1891380
play week one

>>1891392
I wish week one didn't have basements as a hard requirement to survive the airplane event. I would love to take over the mall before it starts, but I'm worried it would get insta flattened.

>>1891502
Airplane event feels like the week one dev got a nastygram from TIS to stop making them look bad so he had to find a way to enshitten it.

>>1891502
the airplane event happens wednesday evening. just leave the area when the time comes, then go back to your base. its stupid and i wish you could turn it off in settings like the nukes, but its easy enough to cheese

>>1891568
The truth is, I really like the airplane event, its fun to explore and deal with a plane full of newly reanimated passengers, but it would be nice if it landed right next to my base rather than on top of it.

>>1890127
heh

>>1890163
>eating a 45kg fish raw will kill you
thats fair lmao

>>1892521
Except eating the 45 kilograms COOKED is perfectly healthy.
Because the human body can totally ingest that much fucking food in a day.

>>1892524
challenge accepted, going to the store now

>>1892529
Report back after all 45kg has been consumed within an hour. I'm sure you'll feel really good and invigorated afterwards!

>>1892531
Instructions unclear, dick stuck in fish

>>1892560
Well now it weighs slightly more!

ITT: Lies
Literally nothing but fucking saxophones

>>1892570
The devs got uppity over people using it as a kickass military-gear location.
You know? In the military town which absolutely would be packed with hidden military shit?
So they stuffed it to the gills with musical instruments as a joke, because they're that petty and hate their playerbase.

>>1892574
I wanted to try the shitty town for a change but it truly lacks anything of interest. Even the old timey bunker was fucking empty.

>>1892591
The developers almost never fix up the older shit they put into the game.
Cars still lack animations. You think they would've fixed that a patch into B41 or some shit.

>>1892601
Actually, I'd like to also criticize that the ground floor hallway for that building didn't have light switches. Also there seem to be subterranean zombies that look like piles of trash and pop out of the ground.

>>1892601
it's too much work you fucking chud
please wait patinetly while we scratch our asses for 6 months trying to find a way to make the game even more annoying to play

>>1892570
Did you have the annotated map?

>>1892612
No

>>1892613
Isn't that a requirement?

>>1892612
The famous specific map doesn't do what you think it does anymore. It just makes a single room turn into a survivor's room, not the whole building.

>>1892617
>It just makes a single room turn into a survivor's room, not the whole building.
That must be a B42 thing then, all attached buildings would turn into survivor buildings in B41.

>>1892623
no shit sherlock

>>1892614
Every other miltiary housing i've visited has had milspec gear without needing any maps.

>>1892623
>That must be a B42 thing then
Does it make the game worse? Then year it's a b42 thing

It's up.

>>1893258
more map address polish and now butchering hooks require an actual large metal hook so you've got a new bottleneck item to grab
no changes to the barricades being gimped so it looks like they're not walking it back
nothing on bowery or brewing or the other core parts of the dumb crafting tree/profession overhaul/etc
we did get a big polish pass on fall damage though, for all those situations where you actually enter a skyscraper in downtown louisville and reach the top and fall despite it being nonsensical from any perspective

Trajectory feels like it is going to collapse when the wider normiesphere starts paying attention again around MP's first unstable release and they see playability has dropped sharply in exchange for bull balls and ragdolls, I don't see how it can logically go any other way when Timmy the zoomer who started playing with B41 (99% of their audience outside of hugboxing reddit/discord or ultra-pessimistic rhetoric here) reinstalls the game and sees it for himself. That's if MP even has ragdolls, and they aren't disabled because they couldn't figure out syncing so they simply turn it off like with vehicle animations, ragdolls and firearm draw distance.

You can't put the genie back in the bottle past a certain extent and B42 is across the board nerfs without actual content backing it up. Even from the perspective of a supporter of the game's development, what's their gameplan supposed to be, point to sandbox and tell players to fix it themselves? The vast majority of players will simply close the game and go find something immediately entertaining instead of unwinding years worth of retardation themselves (and without firsthand knowledge to direct them). How does a Reddit novel by Lemmy change any of that? At this point the management direction seems to be "do whatever the fuck we want since we can/will pull the ripcord if everyone hates us anyway"

>>1893258
Did they fix crops not growing at all ever and fertilizer you find in stores not counting as compost?
Also is spearfishing back yet?

>>1893354
no, no and no

i fully suspect lemmy is waiting on AI to do all the npc work for him. he's already on record using chatgpt to help him code the game, he posted about asking it programming questions back when he still had twitter
https://nitter.net/theindiestone < look at the last retweet, its this guy
https://nitter.net/ChrisYicheng/status/1906339137583771672#m

>- Fixed Spears freezing zombies on Linux.
No shit?

>>1893410
What the fuck is this chinkslop word vomit, this reads like it was written by an AI itself

>>1893444
>--
lol it really was

>>1893429
They did! Now maybe they can finally get multiplayer working again! lol

>you can only get leather by butchering
>butcher station now requires butcher hook
>meaning all leather is now locked behind blacksmithing in a primitive run
They just keep doing it. Another month of updates and the crafting somehow got more interlocked and convoluted.
The basic primitive crafting is locked behind maintenance, the blacksmithing is locked behind carpentry which itself locked behind nails, you probably can't even start a fire with primitive foraging.

8 months later, and they have only made it worst.

>>1893638
It's perfectly in line with their stated goals, this was never for the benefit of grug living out in the woods. This was only ever for the .01% of servers with no loot respawn and no map resets so they can still make stuff 6 gorillion years after the start of the outbreak.

>>1893642
>It's perfectly in line with their stated goals
Wrong. Their stated goal is that a full primitive run would be possible.

>>1893646
>Primitive survival? We never said primitive survival
>Why do you want survival, we never said survival
>Advanced survivial? That'll be b43
>NPCs? We never said NPCs
I don't really care what they said or didn't say I just want to shitpost, I stopped reading thursdoids 2 years ago. Lemmy and the entire studio are niggers anyway

>>1893638
You really should be able to butcher big animals just fine if you're near a tree and have rope on you.

Look you fucking bigots, the ability to properly butcher an animal was not possible before the invention of complex casting methods. OKAY?

>>1893649
>, I stopped reading thursdoids 2 years ago.
That's a really weird way of saying they stopped making thursdoids 2 years ago.

>>1893658
Has it actually been that long jesus christ

>>1893649
>>1893642
even shitposting you were partially correct in that this is still entirely within their actual stated goals:
>you can forge a sword from nothing in the woods
>increased player friction and shorter lifespans IE shitting on them with a thousand new ways to slow down survival and make it more annoying
>right click crafting slowly, actively being depreciated in favor of the build menu
>bull balls, crafting, sleeping bags
They just never said anything about how interesting or well balanced it would all be. This is Lemmy slowly perfecting his design exactly as intended. Isn't that scarier?

>>1893661
Lemmy's game design methods are legitimately the most unhinged I've seen for any game. Ever.
>Lets make the game have 90% of it's content MONTHS into the game
>And lets make the average player lifespan a small fraction of that!
>Lets add realism when it is cripplingly harder than reality
>And lets add gameiness if realism would help the player!

>>1893661
>This is Lemmy slowly perfecting his design exactly as intended. Isn't that scarier?
I don't have an appropriate reaction image for this level of disgust

>We added basements to the game, there's RNG ones and pre-set ones
Okay cool, what's in them?
>The same old shit you'll find everywhere else
So why would anyone go to a basement, it's a natural dead-end which is what gets players killed
>FUCK YOU WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING
Do the huge military bunkers at least have military shit in them?
>Lol no why would a 90's doomsday bunker have a gun in there?

>>1893671
Don't worry. Not only are M16s still unfathomably rare outside of one place, but guns in general are nigh-unusable altogether. The damage is so low that at best it's a toy for ragdolling zombies on command with headshots when you're exhausted and can't be bothered using melee. They couldn't figure out how to make guns useful without wide gunshot noise aggro (unfeasible with thick urban areas) as a heavy prybar for balance, so now they just suck ass to keep you from using them at all.

>>1893682
They comically said the new guns have a complex ballistics system when in truth it's the same fucking RNG 'pseudo-melee' system that B41 had. Just with better art assets.
What a joke.

>>1893684
>What a joke.
Honestly that feels applicable to like 95% of the video game sphere now, indie, AAA, whatever the extreme majority of it fucking sucks.

What mods do you guys use to fix 42?
Shit is so janky it's unbelievable.

>>1893920
I use the uninstall mod.

>>1877024
They want to have their cake and eat it too. There are only 2 kinds of people, the humans, and the egalitarians/normies. The latter do not see any value in truth itself, so they will lie, pilpul and double-standard constantly without the slightest remorse. Think about how they celebrate "LGBT pride" constantly but call you gay as an insult.

The devs are mentally ill bri'ish commies on paid vacation 11 months per year, Lemmy the head commie got rich thanks to his scam game with false promises, and now he's just using the money to maintain his commune daycare.

>>1882263
Weight changes to nails and ripped sheets and the likes, the devs multiplied their weight by 10 for no fucking reason.

>>1890260
Yes. Just realize, Lemmy is such a commie nature-hating city-dweller that he hard-coded into the game that it's IMPOSSIBLE to catch any animal via trapping if you are less than 75 tiles away, even if you're hidden behind walls and not making a sound. Imagine being such a commie mentally ill freak that you claim it's impossible for any animal to be closer than 75 meters from you.

That alone makes trapping retarded and worthless.

>>1893444
>game--it
AIslop.

>>1893997
>that it's IMPOSSIBLE to catch any animal via trapping if you are less than 75 tiles away,
I think this was removed for B42.

this update added literally fucking nothing

>>1894368
Wrong, it made crafting even more annoying.

>- Added "Attack Player" to an animal's debug context menu.
zombros we are so back

>>1894681
Why is development so fucking slow on this thing anyways? It's not like the team is tiny they have like 20 employees and they can't even implement simple shit single modders do in like a couple months.
Prime examples are multiplayer and NPCs.
Hell they hired that NPC guy and put him to work on a dogshit barebones fishing minigame.

>>1894718
the code is huge mess

>>1894718
>Why is development so fucking slow on this thing anyways?
Because the developers are lazy niggers and lemmy is a commie who thinks making people actually do the fucking job they were hired to do is violating their human rights.

Maybe I'm retarded, but is there no way to level up welding now besides cutting up cars? That first level seems to be gated exclusively behind that one activity.

>>1892574
Are the devs Bongs? If so that makes sense they think guns are icky.

>>1895085
They're some brand of european so yeah

>>1895359
They're bongistanis.

saw this pop up in my Steam recommendations, what do we think?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2387670/As_One_We_Survive/

Is a hazmat suit the only way to survive the nuclear radiation?

It's time m'lads.
Went with slow metabolism of course.

>>1895849
Of course he would have a trenchcoat in his room.

>>1895741
Looks like it's almost ahead of Zomboid, just give it multiplayer and vehicles.

>>1894718
Terrible team management and having to work with 13 years of spaghetti codes

>>1896055
Come on now anon, they're not doing anything that could remotely be called work.

>>1895741
I hate those character models and immediately ignore any game that uses them.

>>1895741
Looks like poopoo garbage.

Gee it sure is fortunate for the developers that canonically everyone in Knox county throw their most useful tools into a giant bonfire just as the zombie infection started.
Otherwise the game as-is would be super unrealistic and people would be able to insult the devs over their hypocritical game design principles.

yeah sis let's make the game even easier to play by spawning every single tool in game in every garage and basemenet on the map to completely trivialize scaveging (aka 50% of the gameplay), that's exactly what the new build needs

>>1894718
Well, this for once >>1894805
Lemmy is a genuine commie who believes any sort of deadlines is literal slavery holocaust, all anyone has to do to get 11 months a year of paid vacation leave is to say it's to "help their mental health", and Lemmy is an egocentric who does not want to be outshone by anyone, so he deliberately gimps anyone too skilled like the NPC mod guy who he forced on the fishing mini-game and other dumb shit completely unrelated to NPCs. TIS has Pol Pot-tier leadership levels of competency and megalomania.

>>1897609
>trivialize scaveging (aka 50% of the gameplay)
it's already rather trivial and you can have practically everything you want or need in less than a week if you have a somewhat decent understanding of where to look

>>1897624
obviously it's not trivial enough if these niggers are still bitching about having to play the game

>>1897627
it's just weird that there's like 1 or 2 rather mundane objects on my zombie survival scavenging shopping list that are really annoying to get compared to everything else for no reason

>>1897609
That's weird, are you suggesting the game isn't realistic, the keystone principle the developers are aiming for?

>>1897636
>1 or 2 rather mundane objects
so a sledgehammer and?
>>1897638
I don't give a single shit about what that raf-faced motherfucker lemmy thinks this game is, devs will always butter up their creation no matter how garbage it is in reality
a game that would 100% simulate real life would not be fun to play, is real life fun to play? No it fucking ain't, yesterday I had to sit on toilet for two hours because some chink in a restaurant I frequent didn't wash their hands properly, I was shitting out pure stomach acid near the end, does that sound fun to you?

>>1897643
Maybe don't make hyper-specific items required in the tech tree almost impossible to find because you lazy commie niggers can't be fucked updating the loot tables?

>>1897643
>so a sledgehammer and?
no idea it's been awhile. they should probably find other ways to make the game more challenging or immersive but they seem to be focused on (slowly) adding retarded shit like ragdolls and a ridiculously fucked up tech tree

What storytelling in this game.
Neckbeard guy died after finding a taxi and killing like 200 zombies, raiding the police station and taking over the firestation when 4 gojillion zombies snuck up on him while he was downstairs barricading windows.
Now begins the tale of Chud, spawned in a house on the outskirts of town, took moms keys but the car was gone, I walk over to the next house and it's a run down crackden with mostly black zombies and it has mommy's car parked outside, Chud has enacted TND and taken her car back.

>>1897643
This is going to blow your mind but maybe a fucking mechanic-shop should have at LEAST the materials to fix up a single car.
What, did the zombies eat all the spare windows? Did rednecks throw all the car batteries into the lakes? Fuck off, kike.

>>1897648
>they should probably find other ways to make the game more challenging or immersive
that is what I've been asking for for years, look at the state of the medical system, it's like they completely forgot it exists
in a game where resource scarcity is supposed to matter A LOT, not even fucking wound infections do anything and shit like antibiotics have zero fucking uses
for fucks sake they added diseases to plants before they even thought about adding player diseases...

>>1897652
car repairs? They can't even be arsed to finish implementing car interiors or animated car parts despite the majority of work being done
but seriously, judging by what they said and showed in the past I really think they did make a whole bunch of content for the game over the years but instead of actually implementing it they just let it sit idle while raking in their 11 months of vacations for mental health reasons

>>1897652
You see, in the event of a zombie apocalypse with an airborne strain that kills 98% of the population, the humans typically rush to the nearest car repair shops and frantically loot the batteries and jacks on their way out of the city.

still on b41, but finally got the week 1 mod and it's jank as fuck but honestly what I am looking for in PZ. Is the build 42 mod better?

>>1898247
I don't know how far they updated the b41 version, but the launch version was very shitty. NPCs would have crazy move and attack speed and run at you in superspeed like the flash. I've been playing the latest version for b42 and while not perfect, its pretty decent. Its not as good as hostile superb survivors, but bandits can run several times the npcs for a fraction of the performance drop.

>Dwarf Fortress picks up one new programmer and they've already multithreaded some shit and progress on the game is actually going somewhere
>Entire zomboid dev team can't fix a cow's calorie value in EIGHT FUCKING MONTHS
WHAT
THE
FUCK

>>1898915
they worked 26 years on this game show some goddamn respect!

>>1898915
smol inde company, pls udersatnd

>>1898915
Shut the fuck up they could have released the game into 1.0 years ago and been selling all this new content and patches as a sequel but they are sticking with us out of love for the community.

>>1898915
>>Entire zomboid dev team can't fix a cow's calorie value in EIGHT FUCKING MONTHS
Because they don't want to, it's a single value in a table. Eventually the answer ceases to be incompetence and becomes active malevolence.

>>1898915
i'm still salty that the magic/lore/mythos generation got shafted/bushed back in favor of implementing a worse ui steamies

>>1899038
Be quiet, brown-nosing faggot.

>>1899097
The Steam UI isn't that bad. The pre-steam version was just so fucking nonsensical with no consistency in keymapping.

>>1898922
20 fuckin' years on greenlight and for what?

>>1899457
>not recognizing Lemmy's bullshit excuses
NGMI

>>1898922
holy damn
lowkey though imagine if someone made a project zomboid clone but now it's third person and really super focused on the RPG stats and mechanics
would literally print money over night.

>>1899811
>>1899889
It's 14 years actually, anon is just memeing
still a long ass time though

>>1899897
>It's 14 years actually, anon is just memeing
26 years for DF.

>>1899897
still insane
the fact they're still working on it in the manner of time it took rockstar to not only release GTA V and milk it for 13 years but soon we will have GTA VI

>>1899900
and FromSoftware released DS1, DS2, DS3 and Elden Ring since PZ started development
an entire game series was born and died in the time it took PZ to get to its current state

>>1899904
You can fit the entire original Jurassic Park Trilogy in the time it has taken to half-ass Zomboid's development.

>>1899904
also true

>>1849415
Superb survivors follow the same rules as the player and are slow and clunky when they fight you. They won't immediately start throwing hands either, and will start with hostile dialogue telling you to fuck off before they brandish.
Early bandits melee ran like sonic the hedgehog because according to the script it was time for an encounter and so they had to be in your screen and it was the game's problem if it looked stupid to see someone move at warp speed and slice your throat open with a tire iron.
Current day bandits are kind of reasonable, though I always set them to the lowest possible aim accuracy because fuck getting shot in the leg by an unseen assailant in the woods. All the same, they're a reason to wear armor, at least in your throat, right arm and head area and that's a welcome change of pace to the optimal briefs, sandals and half a dozen spears. Oh, and they also carry useful loot, so the risk of fighting them is evened out by a nice reward.
Honestly, I prefer superb survivor hostiles though, I think a slow moving guy with a knife, or double barrel shotgun telling you he calls dibs on the convenience so you better leave, is much more immersive even if its boring and the reward for winning your weekly scrap is just a couple of shells and a claw hammer.

found this in a summer camp location.
did not know this existed.

how often does this game go on sale?

>>1900496
two or three times a year

Why does the perfromance drop so bad over 150 zoom? Also why is driving so trash?

>>1902001
pick the sunday driver perk or use cruise control

>>1902129
NEVER PICK SUNDAY DRIVER
It cripples your horsepower (horsepower=torque ingame) which means bumping into ANYTHING will slow you to a yet-slower crawl.

>>1895741
looks like IS and the boid in one

>>1902133
i always take it and never really had a problem

I'm new and having a really hard time build 41. Do things ever get better with carry weight? I feel like I can't hold much stuff besides what I wear and a couple of essentials. Should I just not bother looting anything besides super rare lightweight essentials if I don't have a nearby vehicle to store stuff in? Should I turn my rates up? I actually do not want to grind in this game, just roleplay and die a lot. What's the absolute first things I should look for on a new run? Is there a point at which it becomes better to set up a base rather than roaming around and surviving?

>>1902261
just go into sandbox and turn up the exp rate by like 100%, and give yourself a few more trait points. the base settings are pretty much meant for multiplaye

>>1902261
I play at 30x exp. Fuck reading skill books and fuck dismantling every single tv in multiple motels so I can operate a generator or hotwire a car.
As for carrying stuff, don't bother looting beyond the essentials until you get a car, ideally with the trailer and wheelbarrow mods. Flashlight, screwdriver, claw hammer, saw, pen, bandages, needle and thread, tweezers, alcohol wipes, and bottled water are all you need in your bag for general adventuring. Guns are a joke, just stick to one weapon type and stick to it.

>>1902261
>What's the absolute first things I should look for on a new run?
My flowchart is main weapon>car/generator>base>water barrel. You can either play burglar and give yourself extra trait points to make up for it, go key hunting in a parking lot (just zoom in and walk by parking spots, they look like potholes when zoomed out but it'll show up in the pickup screen if you're in proximity), or train to get hotwiring.
Then get two generators (b41 needs a magazine, b42 lets you operate it at 3 electrical), one for your base and another for the gas station and its gravy from there. Also I guess you can just set power and water to never go out, your choice, I do it all the time when I don't want to deal with that aspect. If you get lonely, I suggest superb survivors so you can start with a spouse and recruit more guys to travel and explore with you. Fillibuster's used cars and autostar bus are also great mods so you can go on road trips with 5 guys instead of 3.

>>1902299
>>1902313
>>1902328
Ok thanks, I'll keep that in mind and download those mods. That basically is what I was carrying except I also had some food, antibiotics and painkillers on me at all times, idk if I need all that. I haven't gotten far at all and have only done maybe 3 runs so far. I am interested in checking out the NPC mods but right now I need to get my bearings first, I've never felt so retarded learning a new game kek.

>>1902333
I only keep painkillers on my bedside and on my car glove compartment because they're only useful for sleeping while injured. I've never actually used antibiotics with vanilla, I guess they're useful if you have an infected wound from not using alcohol during your initial first aid. Really, wound infection isn't a big deal for vanilla because all that does is slow healing, I like to disinfect wounds during first aid due to autism purposes, but I can see antibiotics coming into play when you get around to installing bandits. You tend to want your hp at 100% at all times with that mod, and you typically won't have time to disinfect multiple gunshot wounds, so its easier to pop them after taking the bullet outs and stitching the deep wounds.
For learning mechanics, I suggest turning the zombies off completely, maxing out the loot and just focusing on whetever you want to learn. Be it mechanics or carpentry.

>>1898922
>>1899811
>"The Knox Event". That's my fuckin' legacy... No more, McGrew. No more of this.

>>1902333
Antibiotics are useless since the infections and first aid systems are useless, only the Knox Infection is relevant and that is never shown in the Health tab.
Painkillers are fine, if you're injured or need to sleep while in pain. I always carry some bandages and beta blockers since the beta blockers are extraordinarily way good to up your damage by avoiding panic.

>>1902544
>only the Knox Infection is relevant and that is never shown in the Health tab.
And the knox infection ignores antibiotics.

>>1902261
once you get a car and a crowbar (you are using the common sense mod, right?) it's game over. That it's. You beat the game. You literally have to try to get yourself killed at that point.

>>1902584
Honestly, I turn infection off completely.
Only time I die is when I'm stupid enough to get pulled down, or more often, when I'm staring at my second monitor while driving super fast.

Is MP still useless on the latest?

>>1903603
if by useless you mean nonexistent then yes

>go check how Zed Zone is progressing along on Steam
>also check a negative review
>"the developer is going too slow"
>alright that's fair, checking back in a couple of months I guess
>get a nagging feeling at the back of my head
>click on the guy's profile
>he has a positive PZ review

>>1904075
its always funny seeing pz fans blast other EA games for not having enough content then turn around and defend indiestone

>>1904284
>muh laptop got stolen!

>>1847606
Season 1/2 is carried so hard by Daryl that Kojima decided he needed to make a game about Norman Reedus.

>>1847606
Season 1 was kino, season 2 was boring, and season 3+ was just bad. The first like 2 episodes of the spin off actually did a really good job of showing things going slowly wrong in the background but once the outbreak proper started it was dog shit.

As a noobie, I've only played through and survived about 3 weeks straight on vanilla settings. What kind of mods/settings should I be adding to maximize my game experience? I picked up the game because I would see some of the 'storytime' youtubers making 4+ hour megacut videos following their characters arc, if that helps narrow down the type of playstyle I'm for

>>1904335
If that's what you're looking for you came to the wrong game.

>>1904333
Yeah it was kinda interesting up to the point where they hide out with the mexican hitman guy but it goes downhill very quickly, I'd say it gets borderline unwatchable around the point they cross to mexico. I really want to like it because the world is interesting but every single character is so intensely unlikeable aside from the stepdad.

>>1904285
Listen, lemmy laptop got stolen during a house inside his flooded basement which he forgot inside the bus, cut him some slacks.

>>1904393
>cut him some slacks
Sure, but only if he's wearing them

>>1904337
Its not a game you create your own story around based on the ingame actions? I thought it seemed pretty similar to Dwarf Fortress in that regard. I'm not looking for a handhold narrative, its an open sandbox. I'm just wondering what sort of NPC packages/random events/general quality of life things to add to make it be a little less jump small gate -> stomp head ad nauseum

>>1904472
>I thought it seemed pretty similar to Dwarf Fortress in that regard
DF and Zomboid are absolutely nothing alike, for starters DF actually has the mechanical and story complexity to create immersive and interesting tales. Zomboid has a pre-set lore that has nothing to do with the game.
>DF stories be like
>Urist Coppertrout trains in newly created hammerdwarf unit, loses both his hands to a giant spider made of vomit, which he then bit in half while in a martial trance
>Kept in the military unit anyways for the lulz, after a couple of invasions he has personally bitten twenty five goblins to death
>Has a loving wife Urist Shatteredbottom and she gives him a child
>Mining accident results in the child getting crushed under a giant mound of granite
>Urist Coppertrout has gone beserk
>First thing he does is corner the king, and bite his eyelids off, then half of his fingers, somehow managing to get the king into a handsless chokehold he chokes him to death
>Immediately calms down and has a drink at the pub but spills it because no hands
>Zomboid stories be like
>Character spend fucking weeks sewing patches onto a bathrobe because somehow this lets you create bulletproof limb armor
>Character ate a raw egg one time and immediately died after IRL weeks of grinding
>The end

>>1902215
Have you ever tried towing or going off road?
Even harder when you try to transport animal trailers with low hp vehicles (like the step van which is a favorite for most players)

>>1904335
The most important one is the movable hotkeys so you dont have to stick to the game's default order. Slings are also great so you can have multiple 2 handed weapons hotkeyed.

It's amazing we've finally reached the point where the devs have literally run out of things to add because further shoving dogshit like fucking clayworking into the game just makes it worse and more bloated so now they're just sitting on the build 42 beta forever because they PROMISED npcs in build 43 no matter what

Also the reason development is so slow is because they live in Canada where it's okay to just not work for 70% of the year and the devs have long since banned any early supporters of the games from the forums for getting upset over them being lazy.

even the retards on steam forums are starting to get pissed

>>1904686
canada has pretty much the same working culture as the US as far as I have found
they dont get the weird 364 days of pto thing euros have
also isnt TIS brits

>>1904708
The shitter is that barricades are available in the right click menu, except the game will refuse to let you use it and will outright tell you to go to the fucking build menu where 3/4s of the screen gets blocked while you fucking try and set up a barricade.

is there even any other game where the devs actively remove the multiplayer between new versions and force players to wait for years before it's reimplemented?

>>1904907
AAAIIIE ENIGMAGREY SAVE ME

>whats this? a small dev team of two who released their game into EA a year ago has a 3 month wait between updates? heh, what a scam. nobody buy this SCAM of a game made by shitty devs.
>SO WHAT THAT ZOMBOID WAS IN DEVELOPMENT FOR 13 YEARS!????!!! THEY ARE WORKING REALLY HARD ITS NOT A SCAM!!! what? years between updates? BE GRATEFUL THEY COULD HAVE ABANDONED THIS GAME 9 YEARS AGO BUT THEY DIDNT!! THATS JUST HARD WORK AND PASSION OKAY!!! DID YOU KNOW LEMMY COULD HAVE RELEASED MULTIPLE DLC'S AND SEQUELS TO ZOMBOID AND SOLD IT TO US BUT HE DIDNT OUT THE THE KINDNESS OF HIS HEART!!! YOU CANT CRITICIZE THE DEVS BECAUSE THE UPDATES TAKE YEARS TO COME OUT! THEYRE COOKING UP SOMETHING GOOD!!!

>>1904926
Zomboid almost desensitized me from the wait between updates for early access games. They all go by so fast compared to the fucking disaster that is zomboid, but somehow we are supposed to be fine with this.

>>1904926
>>1904941
I've genuinely given up on Zomboid, short of a miracle. Really sucks though, I played before B41 and was amazed by it, it was supposed to be the start of greatness, and Commie Lemmy ruined it all. The game is sabotaged out of spite, and that will never be fixed as long as Lemmy breathes.

>>1890140
aren't a lot of river fish crawling with parasites?

which npc mod is hands down the superior option

>>1905000
It depends if you want enemies or allies
Enemies: Bandit mod
Allies: Knox Event expanded

>>1905076
Idk I'm looking for a mod that makes the world more organic. I want to see some shit like survivors scraping along in a decently defendable area early on in the apocalypse then come back weeks or a month later and they've grown into a full scale fortress that can reliably keep the dead out, or maybe they all die and I get to loot their armory and farms. Dunno if that's even possible. I tried out superb survivors a while ago and every time I saw human npcs they were getting pounced by hordes of zombies so it didn't change much.

>>1905076
Never heard of knox event and I played bandits and superb, can you tell me about it?

Is there an ideal way to sort your mod load order or is it not necessary?

>>1904999
A lot of FISH period, are crawling with parasites. It just so happens that a lot of fish parasites are not human parasites.
Our ancestors were gobbling down fucking fish fillets by the truckload, they didn't all keel over dead.
In any case FREEZING fish for a full day or two, also kills parasites.

>>1904999
There's an indie japanese game about a guy doing colonoscopies. There's this stage about a fisherman that says the fish he catches is so fresh he decided they dont need to be cooked. When you go up his asshole its like hakuna matata with all the nasty parasites crawling in there.

>>1904999
If you think that's crazy, wait until I tell you about a little invention we call "fire"

>>1905663
>Our ancestors were gobbling down fucking fish fillets by the truckload, they didn't all keel over dead.
Oh yeah, well I don't see any of our ancestors alive today, checkmate PZ haters.

>>1905815
I mean they all eat raw fish over there but they don't seem particularly unhealthy? Like they don't typically die young from health related issues I suppose. I wonder if they just deal with the parasites as they eat raw seafood and have regular checkups or something idk.

>>1905861
read what was replied to

>>1905879
They usually flash freeze the fish before eating it raw to kill parasites.

>>1905815
that game was wild, having to pull out nails, screws and razorblades out of the rectum of a guy with pica was brutal

Can anybody here recc me some collection that just works ? I used the one from that AI faggot Somphie but it seems he is taking his sweet time so yea. I seen a few but they dont seem finished.

>>1906241
make your own modlist

>>1906241
Always make your own.

>>1906245
>>1906261
Fuck man but i really dont want to it always gets out of control i remember when i was younger and spending hours upon hours modding Oblivion pls i dont want old habits to return i cant do it boss........

>>1906269
I only have 26 mods for B42, just install QoL mods and nothing else.

>>1906271
Yea man but i want to see new shit modders made.

>>1906269
I don't really see the value of downloading some retard's modlist and then not even knowing half the modded shit that ends up in the game
>>1906274
then just... browse the workshop?

>>1906276
89 FORD BRONCO ULTRAMAX
93 CHEVY DUPLAFUCK
2025 LAMBORGINI
PISS BUCKETS REBORN

>>1906269
The only time I ever played a pre-made modpack was og tekkit, every other time I made my own. It's worth it.

>>1904845
quest packs can be good too
I suppose you could make your own quests but personally that would not satisfy me

>>1906827
>>1907404
dunno how I replied to such a wrong post

How would (You) fix first aid?

>>1908471
Fix it yourself, Lemmy. Add some events as well.

>>1908471
just like copy rim world or anything

>>1908471
Its fine how it is.
sorry I mean I'd spend 16 more years making an indepth anatomy simulation

>>1908471
Infection by default should not be lethal, it's the single dumbest design decision Lemmy has ever made.

How do I get a hazmat suit before the nukes? Do I really need to raid the military base?

>>1908471
Implement NPC so that there are more non-zombie sources of damage

>>1909218
>vast majority of hostile NPCs have guns that one or two shots you so the skill is still useless

>>1909224
This is why doctors will never be useful as a character archetype, everyone will either die or immediately render first aid on themselves. This game will never let you play out Anon got shot lets rush him to the doctor scenes. Hell, I wouldn't even let another player fuck with my bandages if I can help it. The last thing I want is to bleed out because a guy took off my throat stab bandage.

>>1908471
Disinfecting scratches and lacerations should severely reduce zombie infection chance. More sources of damage, xp gain increased.

do the devs make decisions based around zomboid movie youtubers or something

>>1909295
Honestly, the fact that you have to roll the dice is enough for most players to restart. The mindsets I've observed is either they assume any injury is death, sandbox it down to bite only (which is 100%), or turn infection off completely.
First aid just plain sucks and the only thing I that would make it valuable is for it to be a severe increase in speed. Like I'm talking instant rag tearing (or the ability to bandage with an entire piece of clothing, rapid bullet removal and suturing that you can survive a burst from an assault rifle after driving away in your car, or better yet, a passive decrease of health loss due to bleeding to represent your character knowing how to cover a wound properly while finding a chance to apply first aid.

>>1909218
The first aid system is retarded dogshit so it wouldnt change anything

Couldnt you just kill every zombie in the map and so turn into it a non zombie game?
Im noy talking about no zombie option

>>1910260
clearing out the map is *very* time consuming
but if you disable the respawns(on by default because devs are dumb niggers)
yes you could

>>1910260
That has always been the goal for every run for me. Not the entire map though, but rather the town I decide to build my base around.

It's building/crafting grind time again bros...

>>1910694
If you're not plumbing water barrels, you should just use feeding troughs. Plenty of them in the countryside, zero grind required. I just grab those, park em next to a bbq and boil em in the buckets that are also in farms.

it's up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9Lq90Eq3mY

>>1908471
its pretty good imo. i would severely reduce the chance of infection though if you disinfect wounds. i work construction and get cuts and shit all the time and none have ever infected

>>1911119
>Important bits of 42.11
He should just create a one second video.

>softlocked behind welder mask which I've yet to find
I hate this shit

axes still go blunt after a couple of zombies LMAO

>>1911700
Axes in 1990s Kentucky were made out of butter, dontcha know

>>1911700
if that wasnt the case you could go clear out louisville with a single fire axe at the start of the game. they need to make melee way more dangerous without annoying shit like muscle strain

>neither the Irvington hardware store nor the metalworking shop had welder mask
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
Where do I go now?

>>1911973
start hitting garages or mechanic shops. honestly shouldnt be too hard to find

>>1911808
>if that wasnt the case you could go clear out louisville with a single fire axe at the start of the game.
So? An axehead is an axehead, they can last for decades if not more.

>>1911700
just get the mod that bumps up durability on everything
>>1911808
yeah it's fucking retarded
you should be able to use the same weapon from the start of the game for months if not years

>>1912290
>>1912299
my point is that it would trivialize the game. in reality nobody is going to charge at a group of 10 zombies with an axe and end up anything but food. zombies in game are just so predictable with how they attack. they should slash and bite aggressively when you get close. then you could make the axe and other metal items actually realistic

>>1912314
>in reality nobody is going to charge at a group of 10 zombies with an axe and end up anything but food.
Why?

>>1912320
i dont think zombies in real life would all line up nicely for you to swing at their head. not too mention just how utterly exhausting it is to swing an axe at full power like 30 times in a row

>>1912314
zombies are supposed to be trivial, jackass

the challenge comes from the human condition

>>1912339
>zombies are supposed to be trivial, jackass
why? even in romero slop the zombies are lethal

>>1912341
>even in romero slop the zombies are lethal
In Romero slop the instant a bunch of rednecks get together to have a BBQ every zombie in a 10km radius disappears via bullet to the brain

>>1912342
thats not even remotely true.

>>1912344
You should try watching the literal first and second Romero films lmao.
The zombies are a threat to isolated retards, even dumbshit militia wipes them out.

>>1912339
>>1912341
>>1912344
You are retarded.

>>1912341
they're shambling corpses they aren't superhuman predators
players should be challenged by themselves and not because their weapon broke so they have to play the benny hill theme for half an hour while fixing it
>>1912342
I love the 90s flick, based as fuck ending honestly

>>1912351
>>1912352
idgaf, stay seething because you cant just kill every zombie in a mile radius with a tire iron 5 minutes after loading in. you might as well just turn them off in the sandbox if all you want is a crafting survival game

Why can't I dig this clay?

>>1912338
i used to swing a bush axe all day for work, it's not that bad when you get used to it. if your blade is even decently sharp you don't have to swing hard at all.

>>1912363
>just turn them off in the sandbox if all you want is a crafting survival game
thats what the game is now with the retarded durability. challenge should come from the world, not tedious game systems purposely made to waste time in crafting menus.

>>1912372
Turns out my sacks had dozens of cockroaches in them and were, in fact, not empty.
The UI wasn't helping

So lets pretend I play like a complete fucktard and max out my unhappiness, discomfort and depression, is there really any major consequences? That shits just for timed action right? So assuming I just sleep in random houses and not build an actual base to play the sims in, the slower progress bars are not a big deal.

why is the player character so utterly incompetent to the point of only being able to get a couple hundreds calories worth of meat from a massive cow?

>>1912995
They were quick to nerf butter so that one cow could feed a player, so its no big surprise butchering them isn't a viable strategy either. They'll probably buff it eventually someday but make preserving it a pain. Refrigeration will somehow only make it last for a little while and smoking will require cooking 7 or a rare magazine on top of making the ingredients as rare as vinegar, sugar and cans because fuck canning.

>>1912759
>not tedious game systems purposely made to waste time in crafting menus.
>lemmy when he reads this

>>1912961
Doesn't discomfort lead to death?

I'm actually waiting for Vein, the true successor to PZ. https://youtu.be/lZn633YIl3g?si=tUMOyIIMeT-OI73i

>>1913117
Pretty sure it just increases your depression modifier

B42 still not being stable hurts me so so much. I want to play Zomboid.

Please save me. What should I do to fill this hole in my soul shaped like coop zomboid with 4chin autists?

>>1913206
I really want this game to be good but they need at least 5 more years

>>1913369
why not just play 41, it's a genuinely better game than 42 atm

>>1913471
I guess I will. Performance is poo, but I do have a 9800X3D I guess.

Are the wildlife and gunshots I hear is real or it's just background noise

Background. The gunshots have real effects on gameplay because they do cause zombies to move towards the origin of the sound.

>>1913538
was for >>1913512

>>1913443
I wish I was as optimistic as you. No amount of time will make the game good as long as TIS are the ones developing it.

>>1913649
he is talking about Vein

>>1913793
I didn't read, my hate for PZ overcame me

I beat the game.

>>1914009
>>1914009
>>1914009
>>1914009

>>1913987
>does less damage than a weapon you can find on day 1
Heh, nothing personnel kid

>>1913987
You can grind to meet the carving requirement for short bat with nails in the same day that you get to the hardware store (+whittler trait to avoid weapon skill requirement). I can guarantee its just as good or even better than that shit that took forever to level and is a pain in the ass to gather mats.

>>1912558
out of curiosity, how bad is it compared to digging?

>>1904333
This is something no "apocalyptic" media seems to get right. The breakdown of society and everything going to shit is the most interesting part in my opinion. Dawn of the Dead 2004 was a decent movie but the best bits were in the beginning before she even gets to the mall. That scene where she's driving through the neighborhood and cars are burning and people are running around outside not knowing what is happening is awesome. Even shit like The Stand rushes through the virus. I only watched the first season of The Last of Us but it was the same shit, everything crashing down was much better than the "empty world" bits. They could stretch out several seasons worth of the first months of a society collapsing event with several characters if there were any decent writers anywhere.

>>1913369
Apparently Vintage Story is cool.