HEIDEL BALL FREE STUFF EDITION

>What is BDO
Black Desert Online is a Korean MMORPG developed by Pearl Abyss. It features non-tab targeted action combat, RNG, guaranteed upgrade mechanics after you spend 4 times the item's worth and then they give the item away for free, more RNG, brand new fun pvp modes trust me, open world pvp and bullying/getting bullied, coomer outfits like slutkinis, shondoms, real rootin' tootin' American cowgirls, monkeys, infinite grinding in a circle or a private circle, RNG and a pseudo sandbox experience that doesn't matter now that marni exists.

>News and Updates
https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/News/Notice
https://www.kr.playblackdesert.com/ko-KR/News/Notice
https://www.sea.playblackdesert.com/en-US/News/Notice
https://www.global-lab.playblackdesert.com/News/Notice

>coupon codes, gear builder and grind spots info
https://garmoth.com/

>waste your money sheets
Kharas:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aDMV3351YbrExLyudvvXFhhD_WIQoS_q-4hnbaPOho0/edit?gid=0#gid=0
Sov weapons:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19lMMmYTbvMy8HOxwMv9LFpwZrko_rdCHcQuv-Nb85g0/edit?gid=0#gid=0

>guilds
NA: Jealousy
EU: Cuties

Previous thread: >>1783750

Slutty game for slutty people. PA rams us ten times harder than any XIVtranny could handle.

>watch random streamer
>90% chance they have half their screen cropped
Why do they do this?

>>1856782 (OP)
KANPAI!

>>1856890
fov

>>1856999
Do they all have lizard eyes?

>>1857002
dunno

>>1856890
It goes back to a glitch bdo has had since like beta
the higher your framerate the faster your skills come off
it's a very small increase but it will increase your overall dps if you play on min graphics with cropped screen
There used to be a huge massive like 200+ page google doc with a ton of stuff you can do with windows to also boost your fps

Toys for real men

>>1857165
actually good figi

>>1857165
looks shopped

How bad im gonna be at farming if i just press buttons instead of doing goverment-approved combos to have proper buff/debuff at all times? Don't think im gonna go with valk after learning she can only do damage in 5 second window during a buff and you have to cancel cancer.

>>1857111
fps = dps hasn't been a real thing for years and was never the main reason people used potato mode settings. a lot of people use crop mode and it becomes more likely the longer that person has played the game. bdo streamers have played this game for years, so yeah wow they like more fov. people naturally like more fov in their games, that's literally it, it's more common than you think. it's not some weird conspiracy based on when warrior/ninja movement and combos were faster and did more damage when you had 300 fps.

>>1857183
Depends on if you want to actually farm efficiently or just hit the mobs and make some money. If you don't care about money then do whatever combo you want if it feels good. You'll eventually figure out how to kill mobs faster or you won't, just play the game.

>>1856985
Shai is the cute!

Why does every female class I like have to be a twig and not thicc like DK or Valk

>>1857183
some classes allow more freestyle, but most classes have a ton of effective combos and you mostly need to make your addons revolve around the buttons you like to press to make better money

>>1857211
Fat women are disgusting. Merely because weight has gone up for females across the West has not made it attractive. Nigger and Spic preference for thick bitches is because they're brown and retarded. You wanna play that game go read eugenics and fuck an ugly dwarf grl who will pump out 6'5 stallions.

>>1857215
DK isn't obese though so idk what you're on about

last day to buy double pearls, paypiggies

>>1857441
Yes, honey

>>1857111
So why wouldn't they just play at 1080p instead?

Seriously considering buying weight for my processing character, I don't need it and I could spend the pearls on a lot of other things, but it would be very helpful for longer processing batches

>>1857685
do it PIGGY

>>1857723
Don't really want to now...

>>1856782 (OP)
>>1856782 (OP)
>no /bdog/ as subject
good job retard.

>>1856782 (OP)
is this bikini part of the free stuff?

>>1857833
koreaslop doesn't deserve titles
we are now in line with the lost ark thread

>>1857904
>BDO is now associated with Lost ark
grim

>>1857842
no, you buy it if you're a hopeless gooner paypig

>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1R6vcfKavoo85TcY6Xul6GzR8LNiO5IuXH8F5fZwUrSw/edit?gid=1619546493#gid=1619546493
>75+ grind spots in the game
>Gyfin and Elvia still the best for Combat EXP

I mean, it's not like hitting Lv62+ is hard at all and the benefit in going any farther is negligible, but I don't suppose there's a reason for such wild variance? Always found the Combat/Skill EXP by area/requirements to be so strange.

>new p2w rod
>this time on a timer
PA is getting a bit too cocky...

>>1858311
>Always found the Combat/Skill EXP by area/requirements to be so strange.
Everything seems weird when you trust a spreadsheet of a retard.

files broken :(

is this game still grind for 12 months to get +1 on a piece of gear while getting ganked in your farm spot so you can participate in wizard wars to give you a chance for +1 on 2 pieces of gear in 12 months?

>>1857165
>>1857174
pretty sick

>>1858586
>grind for 12 months to get +1 on a piece of gear
If you are wearing endgame gear and you are chasing hard cap gear, it is a month of grind (1 hour per day) for +1 on a piece of gear.
>while getting ganked in your farm spot
Ganks only happen in early-mid game grindspots. In endgame grindspots the gankers are too scared to gank because there are hard capped players grinding there and one mistake can mean 6 broken crystals for the ganker. I'm serious, I have over 120 hours at DSR and Tungrad ruins combined, during these hours I got 3 treasure pieces and 1 gank, that's how rare the ganks are.
>so you can participate in wizard wars to give you a chance for +1 on 2 pieces of gear in 12 months?
What?

>>1858595
node wars were run by wizards and witches just using their aoe last time I played.

>>1858595

first 5-6 years of bdo if you wanted to get into one of the top siege guilds, you had to play Witch/wizard. This was because they had slows, heals, Protected area, and could do a ton of aoe damage.

>>1858609
>>1858617
You can avoid any form of group PvP if you don't like them and you won't miss anything important.

>new $10 fishing rod
>same price as grandpa cron's rod in december
>you can't brand this one
Not paying up this time.

>>1858739
>>1858372
WAIT WHAT THE FUCK IT EXPIRES LMAO

>>1858743
PA has been slowly getting greedier and greedier and more complacent in their greed with new slots to buy, "exclusives", gamble boxes, sealed weight, etc.
now they want to turn fishing into a subscription
they are literally turning into kakao

>>1858776
Because this is it. MMOs across the board are falling out of favor. The companies have no answer to player demands - the discontinuity between player retention and driving profits has swung fully into bleed-out mode. In fact, I'm starting to get the feeling BDO has about 3-4 years of rope left and then the player count & profitability of the game will drop low enough to warrant closure.

The audience are to burned out by years after year of this shit from so many different companies that there's no serious clamor for a new MMO. Yes, maybe amongst the aging millennials and the smaller cohort of zoomers who did fall in to the scene, but it's been a constant downtrend since 2016. I don't think BDO is to blame. The market is rejecting MMOs. XIV is VRchat in disguise with all its goonery. BDO just doesn't do that as well. This shit is actually cooked as the kids say. Swipe for dopamine hits if they still even do it for ya, that's it. And if it has come to that then simply go install a dozen gachas and give up.

>>1858896
people just want shared online spaces where they can make meaningful solo progress with the option to group up as well. it's like walking through the mall you don't give a shit about any individual person, but it being empty or seeing robots patrolling with you would be weird.

I reinstalled and I keep getting some steam cache error T.T

>>1858906
>Shared online world but everyone plays solo
What kind of cancerous lonely friendless retard finds this appealing and wants an entire genre re-designed around it

>steam

>>1858955
the reason wow was successful was because you could level up alone. EQ was not like that.
having solo content so you have something to do while you wait for your friends to login or groups to form is a good thing. today this is all replaced by discord though.
you don't understand the genre at all.

>>1858964
>le wowbabby babbling

>>1858964
>le wow
why do wowtards always want to talk about wow, fuck off this isn't wow, no one asked about wow, go to /wowg/ for that

>>1858956
I am kidnapped by it

>>1858896
true
I hoped PA would learn to be the exception, but I suppose nothing less than a new fotm mmo dropping and stealing players again will hold them back
the rod and weight at least aren't really needed, they are slowly but surely approaching the line however, it's only a matter of time now

>>1859048
>ignore success
that's why bdo can't maintain a thread on /vg/.

AAAHRGH I CANT LOGIN MY CUTE KUNOICHI NOO

>>1859192
run, kuno-chan, run!

>>1859191
ah yes so bdo should copy wow like the other 1000 failed wow clones

wow players are retards and don't even like their own fucking game lmao

>>1858964
>>1859544
the only thing WoW has going for it is it addicted millions of outcast retards like asmongold 20 years ago and they're in too deep to quit now

>>1859191
Most of the single most popular games don't have a single thread on /v/ /vg/ or /vm/.
I do agree tho that BDO should copy some stuff from WoW and other MMORPGs, like having proper battlegrounds.

I have no idea why gook devs are so obsessed with making PvP hard to access. This game BADLY needs some fun PvP like battlegrounds which you can just queue up for and and fun with and proper rewards.

>>1859551
what the fuck that looks worse than shit, I've never even actually played wow and I don't watch any wow video youtubers or whatever. that's like a meme pic right, because after seeing this ppl have no right to say BDO has a bad ui.

>>1859553
>like having proper battlegrounds.
Whales would throw a fit over a red battlefield with it's own AoS-like gear system even if you had to grind red battlefield matches for it.

>>1859574
wowdrones literally have setups that look similar to that with all their addons

>>1859603
That's not true. Whales have always been the go-to target for blame but that's PA's fault too. They fucked up gear progression and made open world untenable. Don't hate the player, hate the game, this isn't elementary stuff. The so-called hissy fit is an excuse to never break down the swipe pipeline (they, PA, don't want even footing, they want winners and losers). Accusing other players of malicious intent is how we got here - blame the studio ya fucking dingus.

>try getting back into BDO the other day after like 9 years
>hop on the level 44 sorceress
>ask world and group chat how to remove the constant retarded notifications
>finally get all that shit out of the middle of my screen
>explore and relearn how to play the game
>turn off the never ending music
>realize the text is too small and fucking impossible to read
>spend the next hour trying to increase the font size without the game looking like complete SHIT
>find out there is no option to increase the text size
>increase the UI scale
>text looks bigger, but now everything is blurry as FUCK
>can't even move half the UI around so it stays overlapped
>get 1 billion silver in the mail
>try to give it away but nobody wants it
>uninstall
whoever the FUCK developed this UI needs to switch careers, I'm only on 1440p and shouldn't need to get bifocals for the first time just to play a shitty Korean MMO, I'd rather pay the $15 for WoW again than keep trying to play this jank ass shit

>>1859798
works for me (those notification being on by default is annoying but they are changing that next week)
>try to give it away but nobody wants it
What are you talking about? You can't directly just give people silver so everyone was ignoring your stupid question.
>ui too small
there is a giant button you can hit to edit the ui and scale it easily

>>1859806
maybe you're as blind as me if you missed the part where I said I did turn up the UI scale and it made everything blurry as fuck with UI elements overlapping one another and no way to move half of them

>>1859821
I am running 1440p and I am not really noticing any blur to it. Is there a specific text field that is blurry to you?

>>1859835
if you're this anon >>1859806 then you need to turn UP the UI scale to notice how blurry it is, NOT down
you can look it up too, I'm not the only one

Hystria, my cuckshed.

>>1859798
I've had this problem with most of the niche MMOs on the market since buying a 4k monitor. they all look like shit and don't scale over 1080p.

>>1859574
yes, it's a meme. the default wow UI is clean.
but it's a meme because most people who play the game have disgusting custom UIs.

>falling for the 4k meme
lmao

How are my mentees doing?

don't tell PA but I mentored my own alt

>>1859675
Whales don't want gear capped pvp existing in any form anon, stop pretending they do. You are not convincing anyone.

>>1860155
i'm a whale and i want gear capped pvp existing in any form

>>1860037
doing pretty good, got to level 58 and leveling slow down to a crawl so I took the time to do quests that I put off, like the lifeskills tutorials and the inventory expansion quests.
I heard that the best place to level up from 58 to 61 is the traitors graveyard since enemies never stop spawning and the second best option is questing with a special book, but idk which one will be best. I wanna hit 61 and graduated this weekend if I can manage it.

>>1860155
Except I am that whale - I swiped a lot over time time. Capped is fine - relegating uncapped to unavailable or having negative incentive is bad design. Your comment is exactly what I mean - a lie putting words in my mouth.

>>1860037
My mentee gamble enhanced super hard, hit 650GS easily, and is now doing 1000 hours at Honglim with a PEN Sovereign main hand and C4 boss armors

>>1859798
I'm using 1440p and the default scaling is fine, not even close to tiny. But if you insist on using scaling, you need to ensure it's a multiple that scales well. Think about what scaling is doing: it's stretching the UI across a larger number of pixels than originally intended. If you scale at a random number, say 123%, then you have to take what previously was an integer number of pixels and multiply that by 1.23.
I was using a 4k TV for a while and 50% scaling wasn't blurry, perhaps 20 or 25 might do but I haven't counted the pixels to see if it multiplies to be an integer. One final thing I noticed is that when selecting your percentage on the scaling slider, it sometimes can have two 'ticks' on the bar whilst still showing the same number, so be careful of that when scaling. One will be correct then the other will be 1% off, leading to a bit of blur.

Wukong isn't really clicking with me, I'm considering using scarecrows to hit 61 rather than grinding. How accurate is >>1858311 for the ~250 AP spots?

Bought the p2w fishing rod, don't even have durablity pets or lightstones. Don't care.

>>1860243
No I'm not

>>1860311
dude what lol, scarecrows? just tag him and grind on your main until he's 61

>>1860428
it's made for players like you since it just expires in 30 days and is unbrandable

>>1860239
>I heard that the best place to level up from 58 to 61 is the traitors graveyard
Right now there is a hot time event with +1000% XP so heading to any grindspot is going to be good XP. Don't forget the daily +200% scroll from Y that you can collect 3 to make a +600%, also the 530% scrolls with loyalties, these alone should be enough to push your character to 61 quickly while grinding anywhere.
Speaking of grindspots, you should check the infinite HP and Mana pot spots, there is an event running now which you can check out to finish them faster, and the HP pot spots aren't half bad either. After your graduation, there is also a Levelling Aid questline from Fughar, that will also send you to these spots again which will reward you with 3k Caphras stones and another "kill X monsters" for 100 Atanis Elements, which are filler pities for any of the 2 pots. So you can kill 3 birds with one stone by trying these spots. Oh, and since everyone will also be in these spots, it's time to learn about Marni realm. For 1 hour, you can enter a private grinding zone where no one can annoy you and you can grind in peace. For the timer to recharge, sit online outside Marni realm for 1 hour and you can go back into Marni again if you wish.
>and the second best option is questing with a special book
That was an option 5 years ago, please don't do repeatable and boring quests for XP when a +1k XP and +100% droprate event is up.

>>1860250
>and is now doing 1000 hours at Honglim with a PEN Sovereign main hand and C4 boss armors
I'm sorry to hear that.

>>1860509
>also the 530% scrolls with loyalties
the what now? I knew about the 600% but not about this one
>Speaking of grindspots, you should check the infinite HP and Mana pot spots
I checked them but can I do them all in one week or do I have to choose one for the entire week?

also is there anyway to change the dark spirit appearance? he was changing as I level but now he went back to being a ball.

>>1860588
>the what now?
There should be some scrolls in the loyalty shop. Every day you get 300 loyalties, and in the F3 shop there should be a Loyalties tab, basically the f2p portion of the shop. I'm pretty sure there should be some 530% combat XP scrolls there for a very cheap price.
>I checked them but can I do them all in one week or do I have to choose one for the entire week?
You can do them all in one week. Also if my guildies are correct, you can also do the usual weekly quest, giving you 5 pities, and then returning to the NPC to also pick the event weekly for 15 pities, meaning 20 pities per spot, per week.
>also is there anyway to change the dark spirit appearance?
I think the option opens up after doing the Valencia questline, or some other main questline. But ye, the option exists later on.

>>1860619
>you can do them all in one week.
>having to kill 6k+ mobs as a shai a week
bruh

>>1860155
I'm maybe okay with it with the upcoming changes allowing passives and buffs to go over the caps but in the current game capped content is a nightmare. More people would've kept up with gear and we never would be in this problem where top guilds have gearlets and don't want to go uncapped if they kept things all uncapped instead of trying to appeal to the zoomer audience that doesn't want gear progression of any kind.

>>1860619
>>1860664
nvm it's 12k+ mobs every week, you can't take both quests at the same time you have to complete the shitty one first and then you can take the better one.

>>1860588
>also is there anyway to change the dark spirit appearance? he was changing as I level but now he went back to being a ball.
I think that's because he slowly regains his power then you defeat him so he's a baby black spirit again.

>>1860588
>>1860916
Don't remember when you get it but probably for doing the main story questlines.

How am I supposed to get this much AP? I don't think after this change I'll have enough to grind the areas I can do right now anymore.

>>1860311
There's some truth to it and most will just pick whatever makes them money anyway, but personally? Ever since seasonal stuff only lasts for like Lv60, I prefer going to the gravestones near Marie Cave when gear is sufficient enough, hitting that level before graduating. Elvia Orcs is doable in season gear but if you just want to get out of season ASAP, it's whatever. Hammering out Lv62 or higher with a tag is good enough, dunno if Elvia Giants or Hexe are still up there but they're still good EXP if you're also grinding for silver. And if it's Skill EXP you're after, they are probably still fine, it's hardly as big an issue these days anyway.

To be frank the AFK training books are slow and I don't think they really have too much of a place anymore.

>>1860664
>>1860909
You don't have to do them all, and especially you don't have to do them all, back to back, at the same day. If you grind one hour per day, it's better to go and experiment at blood wolves, doing the 2 weeklies, instead of staying at Soldier's Cemetery for 1 hour. At the cemetery, you will get 5 atanis elements at best, meanwhile at the wolf spot you have 20 guaranteed from the quests, plus whatever extra it drops, plus a chance for a Kagtunak which is close to half a billion after you craft one of the 2 crystals. Worst case scenario, try these spots with your second character if grinding with shai is too much of a chore.

>>1860999
That's just the new cap and we're getting the new off-hand in a few weeks

Sometimes Patrigio giveth, sometimes he taketh away
Being able to use all characters energy without swapping really makes him worth visiting again.

Can you not buy simply one outfit box for the Summer Getaway outfit? You can buy one outfit for a specific class, but the generic boxes seem to be locked in a 3-pack which I don't want to fork out for.

>>1861221
I burned through all my energy holding out for cheap boss gear but did end up getting shit like the small cron bundles being cost effective, so I suppose the black market update is useful. Why are there grossly overpriced primordial stones as the bad drop, though?

I still error

>>1861283
Yeah the Cron bundles are pretty good too, usually 10mil for 5 Crons. Some things have always been silly expensive from him, but Primordial Crystals especially are in such over supply it's mad. They need to add a grinding or simple alchemy recipe for them just to have some alternate use.

>>1858743
We Mabinogi now

>>1861182
I don't have a second char is the problem, I just started like 2 weeks ago and my only char is shai, I still haven't graduated with her but I'm almost there. I think it was a mistake to choose her as my first char but too late now, I'm level 59 with her so maybe I'll just hurry up and graduate and make another seasonal character to do this farming stuff.

When we getting a new game bundle refresh? There hasn't been a new set of them since what, 2022?

>>1858743
The pack is just for getting 1000 pearls, with the fishing rod as a bonus.

>>1861653
>I think it was a mistake to choose her as my first char but too late now
Don't see it as a mistake, you are playing a game, not a chore through a guide. The only thing you should be worrying about is after graduations, there will be some rewards on the Y tab, like a PEN Blackstar weapon. If you decided that Shai won't be your main class, don't open them with her, and leave them on Y for your second class that you will graduate. There are workarounds if you open them with the Shai, or in general if you want to change your main class, so even if you do open them with her or want to try her a bit more in harder spots, feel free to try them. Btw have you decided what is going to be your second class?

ranger sex

>>1862062
I don't regret it though, she's a cutie, I was going to have a shai regardless since shes the only specialize class in the entire game and I like lifeskills but what I meant was that I think it was a mistake to make her my very first character, I should have made her second or third.
>Btw have you decided what is going to be your second class?
I'm torn between: guardian, nova, tamer, or drakania.
I want them all but idk which one should be second.

>>1862025
So was the grandpa cron's pearl pack.
This one is strictly worse.

>>1862091
I get what you meant. Shai isn't a class for the early grindspots that ask for mobility and high mob count. She is designed for group spots like Oluns and Turos, Party Shrines, and lifeskills. And yea, picking a shai as your first character made your life a bit harder, but that's it.
>I'm torn between: guardian, nova, tamer, or drakania.
All valid choices, Drakania and Tamer are a bit on the challenging side while Guardian and Nova are somewhat easier to get into. Ignore the meta and pick what you like the most.

>>1862158
I think I decided to go guardian, she's pure sexo and since you said shes somewhat easier I think she should be a solid option as my second char.
I just got to level 60, one more and I can graduated: what should I trade my timed-filled black stones? there's a lot of options and idk which would be best, also is there anything else I should do before graduating?

I don't wanna think, haven't played much in like two years at least, what are some good crystal setups for pve? Awakening maegu btw, also is evasion making a comeback? I miss my green boots, also recommend grind spots, could use the guidance

>>1862360
For a new player usually Item Collection Increase Scrolls are the best, if you grind a lot you'll use them up, if you grind infrequently then you need fewer of course but you never want to be without.

>>1862405
go grind at Nagas.

>>1862754
Welcome back

>>1862754
do you even grind nagas anymore? You've been level 62 for years, thought you'd be at least 63 now

>>1862360
Take the loot scrolls, the alternatives are low tier failstacks for gear enhancing, which you can also get from world bosses. The ways to get loot scrolls are limited and usually a chore to do. Guardian is fun, and both her succession and awakening are great.
>also is there anything else I should do before graduating?
Not really, and even if we forget something, you will make another seasonal anyways.
>>1862405
A generic PvE page looks like this. If the Void versions of Ah'krads and Destructions are out of your budget, use the cheaper versions. Keep the crimson flames till you get the other 2 macalods. Elkarrs aren't needed, accuracy shouldn't be an issue nowadays for PvE. You can also keep your frost bitterness instead of replacing it with a stalwart fortitude if you feel squishy in spots. And get that full Girin, they have been minlisted for a while now.
>also is evasion making a comeback?
Not for PvE.
>also recommend grind spots
You have the gear to go pretty much everywhere, with the exception of 3-4 spots. The lack of Kabua artifacts may make you feel squishy in some, but nothing you can't handle. Dehkia Crescents and Cadrys if you want to burn some agris and grind debos, Tungrad ruins if you want to make some failstacks or you can just sell the origins, Dokkebi (Arsha) if you want to grind for essences of dawn although they will start dropping in price soon, Dehkia Thornwood for more caphras, Oluns/Doluns if you have friends or guildies or if you want to try group grinding, or you can keep grinding Elvia Trolls and craft Vell upgrades to sell them. I wouldn't try DSR without the Kabuas if I were you, but you can try if you want to. Depends on which spots you enjoy more, personally.

>>1862778
I see, those void crystals sure are expensive though, maybe once I get some of my gear set up I'll get them, pretty much copied everything else so thanks, might just about grind Yzrahid for kabuas, just did a couple of hours and it's basically a billy just on trash loot with agris. Also what happened to my boy right here? Special evasion not a thing either? Guess that's better for the game, nice hp bonus too

>>1862816
Special evasion removed, converted to extra HP. Evasion got reworked in general, now rather than a binary hit/miss it's a different form of reduction in damage which considers the defenders evasion and the attackers accuracy, at least for an overly simple explanation.

>crons for slightly over 1m each
basically stealing from PA's grubby hands

I think there should be more things we can spend excess skill points on. The extra weight is great, I would like to also see passive combat/skill/life exp increase, perhaps stamina as well. Some more combat damage focused ones might be cool as well, things that cost a few hundred skill points for only a small buff to make it fair. Perhaps there could be specialisations for the BSR buff, like older classes used to have. You invest SP in adding to the buff some of attack speed, crit rate, crit damage, AP, or perhaps even some defensive stats. But you could select only one or two out of all the skills, in the same way as the one additional effect to awakening skills.

>>1863180
skill points are kind of pointless now, there is very little customization and you can just get everything
the only meaningful decisions you make are maybe choosing between prime and absolute skills and disabling others
if they do this, they should have a tree for stat boosts so you have to choose what to spec at the cost of something else, otherwise they're no different from buffs everyone will have anyways

>>1863180
>>1863723
don't go into game development

>>1863755
this is quite literally the shittiest skill system out of any MMO, nobody would miss it if it simply disappeared
all I'm saying is at least do something interesting with it

should I try and turn the tuvala accessories to PEN before graduating or should I keep them as TRI? all the armor and weapons I have them as PEN but the accessories get destroy if I fail so is more of a pain in the ass.

>>1863998
yes it might suck but it has been made several times easier now that they guarantee at least TRI
just pump it all to PEN and graduate ASAP

>>1863180
>>1863723
>>1863942
Skill points USED to matter and people fucking hated it and felt forced to endlessly grind for them even when they were only missing some hp or weight. They're never going back to that

>>1864069
then don't make skill points such a brutal a grind, you still have to grind for the extra weight right now
you people will cry about basic design flourishes that make other games interesting but really it's gook philosophy holding their own game back

>>1863998
If you are starting out then I'd still suggest trying to get the best you can with Tuvala accessories. Getting that shit to TRI is braindead now at least, you might as well give it a try. Also:

>You get to convert one PEN Tuvala accessory into a special one that goes up to DEC, which then becomes a TET Kharazad one; albeit needing expensive resources for guaranteed enhancement
>Season gifts include PEN Capotia accessories; they are equivalent to some older gold AP ones at TET and are okay for surrogates until later
>The necklaces for the two above see the most AP gains
>There is a means to also gradually obtain 2x PEN Ring of Crescent Guardian, expensive to create but notable in that they can be melted down into Essence of Dawn when you need it later
>For future season characters, just get the various main quest accessories and pump them to TRI where doable, you can basically twink your way through season progression

>>1864069
>hitting Lv60+ became super easy
>skill points massively bottlenecking your character growth until the rehaul

Though most players skipped over dud skills but also things like most Absolutes they'd seldom use, yeah it was still annoying as shit. Some classes also 'needed' way more skill points than others, and I do recall Succession also needing more points.

>>1863180
>>1863723
nobody wants to grind skill points or exp in bdo ever again
>>1864255
>you still have to grind for the extra weight right now
no you don't, that skill literally does not matter at all. you can create and tag a fotm class right now and grind comfortably at any spot in the game.

this trial of erethea thing is very nice

>>1863723
I agree, it needs to be something where you have to choose.
>>1864069
>>1864350
I know how skill points used to be five or six years ago, I was there. I'm not suggesting to go back to that but now they are completely useless.
A lot of people in this game have this stupid take where they feel 'forced' to do something they don't like when in actuality there's almost nothing you're forced to do. Don't like grinding for weight, or don't want to grind the last few skill points? Don't do it, it's that simple. I'm 755 GS but am three or four DP short from Journals. It's by far the 'easiest' DP gains I could get but I simply don't want to do them.
These things are seen as must-haves but really they should be considered more similar to high-tier enhancements. No-one expects you to realistically have DEC weapons and accessories, or all the treasure items, or whatever. Extra skills would be just the same sort of thing.

when they say they're removing resistances from pvp does that finally mean if I hit someone with a cc and they're not in iframe/sa/fg I will GUARANTEE that the cc actually applies?

>>1865054
>Extra skills would be just the same sort of thing.
No, they'd either be necessary or completely useless. If you want more useless skills then... sure I guess? Not sure what the point in that is, we already have plenty of them.

>>1865098
what do you think?

>>1865120
What defines something like that as necessary?

>>1865121
its unclear because there's conflicting information in some sources that say everyone just has a base 20% resist rate now

When was the last time they had a 1+1 event for pearl boxes starting at 10 bucks? I'd rather keep my transactions micro if I'm spending desu, or 20 is good too, 40 is too steep

>>1863755
Speak for yourself retard, what they're suggesting already exists in other ways like lightstone combos, kharazad gems, etc. but they don't make much of an impact anymore. Thanks to idiot crybabies like you who want everything simplified, we have limited build variety now.

>>1866247
Skillpoints did not create or add to build diversity.

>>1866309
That's why the suggestions are to make SP matter for build diversity, now aren't they retard?

ok I got to level 61, I upgrade all tuvala gear into PEN and I'm about to exchange all my time filled black stones into item collection increases scrolls.
anything else I should do before graduating?

When is this guy going to stop shitting up the thread with his retarded suggestions no one wants except for him. Lmao like what actual fucking retard wants to grind SP in the year 2025, literal drooling worthless monkey.

>>1866589
Nah, you good senpai, go make your guardian. Btw, now you have 2 options about the starting main quests. You can start from ancient stone chamber, but when you meet Alustin in Velia, he will give you the option for the simplified questline which will let you skip the main quest and still get most of the rewards, like inventory slots. Your other option would be to start from the mountain of eternal winter. It's a short questline introducing you to that area and lore. Do NOT pick the LoML start, it's an important questline, but leave this for later. The LoML rewards are important, don't get me wrong, but it's such a boring and long questline that even if you spam R through the quest it will still take you some hours, and I'm sure that's the last thing you want to do with a new character.

>>1866631
ok thank you, guess I can do the simplified quest and with another char I'll do the mountain one.
does doing simplified counts as doing the main quest? there are some quests that require you to do specifics main quests.

>>1866742
>does doing simplified counts as doing the main quest?
Yes. Simplified questline counts as if you did the questlines up till Mediah, the area around Altinova. Afterwards you can go and do the next questlines if you want, like Kamasylvia, Valencia, LoML etc.

posting in bdo general in 2025!
dinies never die!

Apparently the new damage changes is a PvE nerf. Major if you're over the cap and minor if you're in the intended AP range. Still a loss of silver for players of any gear.

>>1866891
best part about black desert will always be the sluts

>>1867709
Combat balance is the biggest ditch digging effort ever. Worse than LoML. Whoever is sitting at the development roundup, handing down plans to rework this class and that class over and over is the definition of a busybody. Akin to maximizing Jira ticket closures - nobody asked for all the shakeups - why does it even fucking matter - there's nothing to do with all the gear. A few RBFs a day, that's it at most.

>>1867709
Its only bad if you stack species damage like crazy with gear

this maintenance better fix my dowloading error
I just want to fish

>When your displayed AP reaches 310 or higher, you'll gain Extra AP Against Monsters +8 for each additional AP.
>As a result, some sub-weapons now grant even more Extra AP Against Monsters.
>Now, only 5% of any AP above the limit will count.

What was the point of this? Anyway, Seems like a lot of extra mechanics and logs got reconsolidated for newbies, that's good at least. Also Elvia Calpheon seems to yield Caphras now, supposed people needed another reason to farm there. Also

>Pit of the Undying being made a weekly but essentially nerfed in cron output for anyone diligent

Welp.

Holy crap they cooked with this update. I don't really know what it all means but it seems like a lot

>>1868920
I have a feeling the extra money we will probably be making will offset the less crons from pit.

is it up?

>>1868942
yeah, your skills and addons are all deleted
have fun redoing them with monster AP

>>1868944
I didn't re do them last time they wiped it, only one for pvp

>>1868944
addons don't have monster ap anymore. idek if it's just the addons but i feel significantly weaker after this patch. i'm killing dsr mobs way slower. used to be able to kill them within one turn consistently and now it takes me 4, 3 with bsr buff.

>>1868927
You're spared more time as well technically, even if it's like 5-10min a day depending. That and Agris can be better utilized.

>>1868923
A lot of it is trying to:

>equalize and debloat internal PvP number fuckery
>also making CC resistances irrelevant outside of PvE
>grabs reworked and its resistance removed
>thus a lot of items getting altered or removed outright due to the above
>no mouse movement for combat
>reworking PvE AP and the various implications we're still discussing
>horses and boats having some of their damage adjusted as well
>all stat ups (Sheet AP, DP, Stamina, HP, etc) from adventure logs are now consolidated into the Bartali Log to simplify it; other logs infer mostly items instead
>extra mechanics you unlock from quests like Family Inventory, Naderr's Band, etc are now given by Black Spirit after hitting a given level than a mini-questline
>Pit of the Undying is now a weekly with less rewards per week but faster promotion

Also just noticed Succession Sage not mentioned on the archetype section, lel

my game still broken :(

>Merv's Bags swap out ALL the slots out including underwear
>Still keep all Patrigio's Bags, which only replace the slots of what's in there - and works better if you simply only want a quick partial outfit change

What was the point of this again?

Do these apply to PvE mobs?

How's succ cumsair?

Literally every spot feels like shit now except for darkseeker's retreat, and I actually ended up doing quite a bit more damage to them than before the patch. All the other spots seem fucked though. All the dehkia treasure spots, lower gyfin, trolls, cyclops, cadry, even regular ash feels way worse kek. They definitely messed something up. It's like they tried to offset the agris buff by making the mobs tankier but made them too tanky.

>>1869325
I lied, pig cave feels pretty good too.

i hate this game and this new patch i hope kim jon un fucking nukes you. i dont need to get 320 ap for your nigger game anymore. i uninstalled the shit. fuck you.

Everyone I liked playing with has left, new people won't stay, veteran gamers are 'retiring' aka quitting. All the game context is incredibly gatelocked and the only important spots are drastically diminished in quality to the point its not worth it to even grind, Just afk in a game to fish that actively spies on you and what you do on your computer. Lol, no thanks. I have nothing to do except watch it die now.

>>1869112
Only if those mobs can be Down/Air Smashed

>>1869503
Knocked Down / Floated *

>>1869325
I didn't go grind yet but I heard what guildies said about the new update. Yes, mobs feel a bit more tanky but the new agris balance made every spot pay a lot more, at least for the people who grind no more than 1 hour per day. Gyfin under with 25k agris burn in an hour is giving 1.6b after taxes. Suddenly a lot more spots became more profitable overnight and imo, mobs being more tanky isn't necessarily bad. I boosted some guildies at gyfin a couple weeks ago and the spot was boring as hell with my gear. The statues were dying in 3 skills, not even half a combo, where's the fun in that?

>>1869366
Pig cave should be hands down the best money spot in the game now. Fortunate was already the best, but now fortunate cave with agris? I want to try that tomorrow.

>>1869059
devs can pat themselves on the back for doing "something"

>>1869642
I leeched my guildies at gyfin for 2 hrs after the patch and made around 25k with agris + despairs both hours. I used to make over 35k trash loot without agris if I got despair and around 30-31k without. I just finished my trolls hour and got 9.7k with agris, before this patch I was making around 15-16k before the change and I didn't need agris for that. Cyclops and cadry are much worse too, and the agris doesn't make up for it.

Endgame spots are the only ones that were improved, it's to the point where they're noticeably squishier and deal way less damage. I can nearly AFK in darkseekers now and even orzekea mobs don't hurt nearly as much. It's like they reversed how it feels to grind mid game and end game but only if you have the gear.

>Suddenly a lot more spots became more profitable overnight
So far, no it doesn't seem that they did. Hexe is really good now, I can't say that about any of the other elvia calpheon grind spots.
>The statues were dying in 3 skills, not even half a combo, where's the fun in that?
I don't follow your logic.

>>1869679
Also I liked what they seemed to have been going with as far as the agris changes, but it's starting to dawn on me that they're trying to now gate all spots with agris. Every spot you didn't need agris for is now objectively worse without it. When you burn all of your agris, you can't just go grind a spot that isn't agris efficient and still make good money, you straight up have to make less money because you're out of agris. I really don't want to be a doomer but this isn't good.

I'm not a big fan of it at all. I wouldn't mind ways to convert something into more agris points like maybe energy or some kind of byproduct of lifeskilling that can be sold on the marketplace as a new silver sink, and new way for lifeskillers to make money off of grinders. PA is doing random shit right now, as they've always done. Somehow they haven't gotten it in their heads that the 14th combat related rework didn't solve any of the issues people had with the game the last time they did an overhaul, and the 15th one still hasn't solved any apparent issue.

>>1868944
FUCK

>>1869497
I don't want to share in this sentiment because I genuinely enjoyed spending time with the bros. It does seem like the game's direction is causing a kind of attrition the playerbase can't recover from. Feel however you want about the PvP changes these last few years - it has definitely driven some people away in a way they won't be coming back.

Ulukita felt like the last moment PA had a chance to get things right. Then the Dehkia Gyfin & Mirumok teasers turned out to be total nothinburgers. And then we started seeing them updating the LoML spots, leading to the current Ozreka and Golden Pig standard. Those other anons are on to something with the agris changes. I can't fully decipher what PA's plans are because there's a new zone on the horizon but if it's trying to turn this into a pure grindfest then it really may be time to call it quits. I don't know who is exclusively playing this game for the climb and then perma AFK at the top end. Not wasting my PC life fishing - what's the point?

>>1869679
I don't want to defend the update since I didn't grind yet myself. Maybe I'm just chugging copium, maybe they fucked up somewhere and added an extra 0 to the mobs defenses. We will see in the next weeks with further patches.

>>1869686
Let's say for the sake of the example that I love grinding Tungrad ruins and I spend 2 hours of grinding per day. Before the agris update, if I wanted to be efficient, I would go grind an agris spot first, like Dehkia Crescents or DSR just to burn 20k agris points, and then spend my second hour at Tungrad ruins. I can't burn agris at Tungrads because it will eat 100k points in 20 minutes. After this update, I can just do 1 hour at Tungrads with agris and 1 hour without agris. Or if I didn't grind the last 2 days because I was busy, I can do both hours with agris. For years, Agris is what split the grindspots into 2 groups, the spots for people that grind 1 hour per day and the spots that people want to grind till their eyes and fingers hurt. But what happens if I grind 1 hour per day, and the spot I like grinding is in the other group? What happens is that agris will go to waste, one way or another. Either I spend my whole agris pool in 20 minutes, or I let it sit at full for months. The whole purpose of agris was to promote people to grind at least 1 potent hour, and later have diminishing returns when agris was over. The problem was that this thing only worked on a handful of spots, and that changed today.

Forgot to post this yesterday

>>1869866
What they actually did was make every grind spot rely on agris, yet you are getting less loot at many grind spots than before the patch, when you didn't need agris. Tungrad for example, is basically the same as it was prior to the patch without agris. I don't know if it's bugged or something but people aren't suddenly reporting significant increases of extra trash loot because of the agris change, at any spot. I listed several examples in my post of me making less trash loot WITH agris this patch. People didn't just suddenly forget how to grind, people are making less trash loot at the majority of the grind spots in the game.

Haven't grinded yet
But I know it'll suck because PA can't do anything right

>>1869894
Cringe senpai name but congrats

>>1869497
don't worry FOMO outfits and lootboxes will surely fix it