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We go way back Edition
"News" (lol):

MechWarrior Online (NEW!! Heroic Grab Deals every month!):
http://www.mwomercs.com/
August 2025 event -- Claim your FREE loot bags and shitmechs here:
https://mwomercs.com/events/585

Mechwarrior 5 Mercenaries (Now on Steam & GoG):
https://mw5mercs.com/
https://www.nexusmods.com/mechwarrior5mercenaries/mods/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Fj7x8sC7iE-bLd9xEl580PPIri-1kdst6pnn9LkijI8/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15fQCjkxjECs3Jvhv-YA1ZP147SuEP2olkPzLJCLAFmQ/

MW5 Clam Invasion (with Ghost Burr DLC!):
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2000890/MechWarrior_5_Clans

Mechwarrior Living Legends:
https://clanjadewolf.net/mwll/
http://www.mechlivinglegends.net/

Living Legends Server Stats (Use this to check if anyone is playing):
http://stats.spikx.net/mwll.html

There's a new Daemon X Machina coming out, it'll totally be good this time honest!
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1342490/Daemon_X_Machina_Titanic_Scion/

>There's a new Daemon X Machina coming out, it'll totally be good this time honest!
I've grabbed the last humble bundle with game in it. Gonna give it a try.

>>1924079
I will check it out when it's on a steep sale. The first game had the fast gameplay I was looking for, but the maps (especially the PvP maps) were inexplicably small; you could dash from one edge to the other in three seconds. The story was also a complete mess. Fun if you liked Armored Core 4 and want more of that specifically, but moreso a cheap imitation.

Shooting vantablack niggers with a heavygauss

>>1925505
>using vantablack
>not using HPG manifold gray or Canyon Network beige
They're not very smart, are they

In Mercenaries, are there any mods that let heavier mechs show up in easier missions as bosses and the like? I think it would be neat to see a little bit more variety in the early game, especially if you could salvage a heavier mech and have a composition that isn't just four mechs of roughly the same tonnage.

>>1927874
Black knights, Thanatos shows up after like the first set of missions and 80+ tonners show up after the second set of missions, that's not early enough?

>>1927874
I checked Nexus and didn't see any mods like that, but I may have missed one. Thankfully you start seeing heavies pretty early, and an early set of Swaybacks (the 8ML Hunches) is enough to demolish the entire game for obvious reasons. Nothing beats the good old Medium Laser.

Mech Dads are complaining about the new Railgun + ER Large Laser boat. Seems strong but I haven't played recently to see it in action. How annoying is it?

>>1929123
Is that the bullshark? From what I recall it's a super special OC donut steal design that is just straight up rule breaking.

Please stop making these threads. Thank you in advance.

>>1930818
classic
don't worry, i pinky promise not to make one in summer 2026 when this one finally dies

oof, daemon x machina does not start good, really does not make me want to continue when battletech openly celebrates trans people already

Haven't checked in in years.
How dead is it?

>>1932089
dead, but not as dead as you'd think
you can still get qp games in two minutes or less, at least between t2 and t5
new c-bill mechs come now and then, and new grab deals ship every month (not that you should grab)

>>1929123
Clan one is basically 4 top mounted erppc for half the heat plus it can back it up with 2 more real erppc

I miss the older designs, the modern ones look so shit.

>>1933802
Everything went to shit the moment they added the cancer pods. And there's no going back now...

>>1934408
desu I would welcome a complete redesign of 'mechs and other vehicles to make more sense, it would help with balance too, if we didn't get mechs with low weapon mounts or bad profiles

I don't understand where the blocky design even came from, modern vehicles don't look like that either

>>1934768
The biggest problem with "competitive" MechWarrior is that unless you design maps to never have any kind of waist-high cover, well over half the damn Mechs are guaranteed to be shit from their geometry alone. The ideal Mech design is too specific.

>>1936469
I mean the Cataphract is just badly designed for example. Yeah, "frankenmech" and all, but that's no excuse for every main weapon being that low while the mech is that tall, even in universe. One of the main issue also comes from MWO, and the MW games being pure mech vs mech combat, having MGs or flamers makes a lot more sense when you can expect infantry in a treeline. And you don't actually struggle to find rare tech and ammo.

The entire problem comes from trying to take a tabletop ruleset and copy it 1:1 into a "sim". It's just insane. The tabletop rules were already an extrapolation of how things should work in the fluff, like an AC20 deleting a light mech in one hit, should mean it deals more damage point than it's armor and structure combined, but that's not how it works "irl". Spreading damage only works because your armor has healthbars instead of penetration values and fatigue, so an armor with 1 HP takes 1 DMG just as well as armor with 100 HP. And both can be damaged by firing the same 1 DMG weapon at it.

So either they should remove precision aiming to avoid rolling sixes all the time or rework the armor and weapon mechanics to work more in line with the real world.

>Shadow Cat
>JJs
>ECM
>2x Beam Laser
>range qwerks
>690m of literally the most annoying harassment campaign imaginable

heheheheh

>>1936469
>>1936581
Designing for "waist-high cover" wouldn't be a problem in a game with destructible environments or some level of piercing.

>only one month left crank out 30,000 more score to unlock all my FREE shitmechs
I'm tired, boss :(

>>1938054
that would not solve the issue though, just reduce it
arguably the mw games are very stripped even compared to the tt, and barely work like the fluff, giving the games this sluggish feel, when BT is supposed to be closer to japanese mecha

I mean, there is no downside to destructible environment , but it's a bandaid at best

WHOA! Great thread, Karlos!

>>1943194
I wonder what Kakok Kokok is up to these days... I hope he's doing alright.

The reward for one of the comp queue challenges is a Charger 1A1. This thing is absolute dogshit. No one should ever take 7 ER Small Lasers on a God damn Assault Mech, and even if you do slot in 5 LPLs it's just anemic and poorly mounted by today's standards. What a waste!

AO2:2:e0|?d|OG|OGpY0|a@|i^|DPqY0|a@rL0|T@|T@|T@sL0|T@|T@|T@t\0|CP|CPu\0|OG|OGvA0|CPw303030

thinking of buying the arrow for this 6x lmg and 2x xpl build
500 range 18 pinpoint DPS sounds so snarky

Mercenaries or Clans for MW5?

I can't believe MW:LL is fucking dead.

>>1944806
Mercenaries has more long term support, buy it on a steep sale or get creative.
>>1944782
18 DPS is okay, but not as impressive as it used to be, considering any Mech with 3 RAC2s or 2 RAC5s is putting out 22 DPS or so for less effort.

>1941916
Finally finished my 400 Loot Bags and shitmech unlocks... turns out the final two unlocks are actually good? You can get two meta hero Assaults no proble-- Sovereign, Gausszilla, Aksum, Clan Bullshark, Fafnir, whatever. Feels... weird. Guess the game really is about to die if they're giving away the actual Pay2Win Mechs as an event bonus.

>>1927874
yes, bk, but its a shit mod

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q78-bm6eHLw

It's out!!!!!
Come yiff my Star Lord o7 o7 o7

>>1947982
God, I love hearing Matt Newman and Adam Jensen give voice to even more shit characters.

>>1947982
kino, can't wait to play it for free when I get bored of better games

what do i pick for my legendary mech
idk what to pick
Im thinking Argent just because I dont own a KGC and the Argent with it's white skin and gold insignias looks pretty sick
ECM with solid hardpoints, are good but...
it's a fucking King Crab and I'm sure I'd hate myself getting cored all day

alternatives?
Argent or War Emu for Gaussvomit? Solid, can't really go wrong.
Not really a fan of anything else.
Maybe the Black Knight shield hero because it's kinda fucking OP for torso twisting goodness

>>1949236
>what do i pick for my legendary mech
Sort by win rate, KDR or average score Z-A
Pick the one at/near the top that seems like you'll enjoy
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OJyk1tof4QqvutvdvZr28GqAN-AZWTEzmIUMpQX4Yzk/

See also: build library
https://grimmechs.isengrim.org/Database

>>1949273
idc winrate you stupid nerd i want builds

>>1949428
Nice meme, Jules.

>>1949420
little bro? your reading comprehension?

It's a shame Nozomi didn't live to see this day...

>>1953018
Nozomi lives on in our hearts. We are the progeny of Rutherford Darshing, and carry on his legacy with every step we take. Even now, the L O N G H O U S E survives! Glory to GONK.

What are the top ten mwog memes?

Kill every black nigger you see

>>1958662
They're all ancient by now. That one guy that drew high quality robutts with meme liveries was my personal favorite. Most of the memes were just namedropping nerds like Jules, Kakos and haruko haruko haruko though, lol

>>1959923
This?

>>1960358
Yup! That's the artist. They made at least a dozen of them. Top class lad.

Who's even left at this point?

MWO had an exceptionally good run as far as memes are concerned.

>>1962844
It's crazy how this sweaty fuck is still meta-compliant nearly ten years later. 2 HLL + 6 ERML is all you need, it seems.

>>1961967
________nobody

>>1962844
My favorite is a vintage one of an Atlas grinding unrepaired Ravens in some kind of stone spinning wheel. This was way back in 2012 or 2013 so I've never been able to find it

>>1968261
We used to have ones like this made for every new thread. One was the Hindenstalker, some other one was about the shitty cap zones that were four poles and a goddamn laser grid.

>>1962844
>>1968261
Is it shutting down?

>>1968317
I always loved this one.

>>1968261
Ahhhh.... now THIS takes me back. Thanks, boss.
>>1968358
Nope, there's still a little more blood to wring out of the stone. MWO and MW5 Mercs are just barely making a profit, despite everything.

>>1968317
Gotchu

>>1969058
Nukongers can't even comprehend the references.

>>1969058
it's been so long that I've already forgotten half of the references, the only obvious one is the red square and the raven. is the anime girl haruko jobbing?

>>1972985
Retarded spuds and golds firing their lurms at the red dorito, blissfully unaware that the mech is way too fast for them to hit it, and has an impenetrable lagshield, while large laser cats duel medium laser cats in a futile attempt to save the red square from caprushing ravens and dragons, which the spuds aren't even aware of, since the ECM prevents them from projecting doritos. The Dawn faery on top of the base represents the archon's daughter.

Is the rifleman good?

>>1974177
all the guns are in the arms, and the arms are huge
it also doesn't have giga quirks to compensate
would not recommend, it can't twist and is overall a huge liability
look for mechs that can squeeze everything in the torso or both torsos+the right arm

>>1974211
Thanks, will buy a jaggermick instead

>>1974211
>it can't twist
?

>>1974302
>twist more than 15 degrees to spread incoming damage
>your arm gets blown off because you twisted
>now half your weapons are gone
Spend the money if you still don't believe me, you'll find out reeeeal quick

>>1974177
8D is fun to zoom around in and RAC unaware people with.

How did Daemon X Machina turn out?

>>1974177
the Legend Killer is
everything else? kinda meh

I completely forgot MechWarrior 5 and now after few years... It's pretty amazing game. Didn't know I needed this so badly. Spent couple of nights setting up and testing mods for the latest version. DLC7 restricts the mod selection somewhat.
Tested out VonBiomes and it's kind of cool but it's still bit over the top. Decided that vanilla visuals are good enough for now.
Question:
Should I buy the game? Seems like there's too many DLCs. How is the coop/online - do I need to join some discord and use a microphone?
If it's too serious might as well as continue with the pirated version and play solo...

>>1958662
>What are the top ten mwog memes?

>>1978349
>go on steam page
>mixed reviews
I knew they should've stayed with the mecha.

>>1979753
co-op is based on friend code/lobby code invites. it's okay, but nothing special. buy it on a steep discount, or get it the other way.

>>1979845
>10 years ago.

>>1979753
>It's pretty amazing game
>Spent couple of nights setting up and testing mods for the latest version. DLC7 restricts the mod selection somewhat.
Clearly it's not. The game needs to be modded because it lack features it should have shipped with.

Tell me a story of the golden days of yore.

>>1983450
please stop making these threads
thank you in advance

>>1983461
Ahhh.... that really got the spot. Thanks boss.

>>1983461
Very nice, Kommander.

Uhhh, hello?

Should I buy mw 5 mercenaries or clans?

>>1989341
Mercs is the better of the two, better stories (somehow....), more missions, more customization, and if you're a sicko the randomly generated missions are technically more replay value. Clans is better designed but there's just no real content for it right now beyond the short campaign.

>>1989661
Cool. Will they keep making dlc for mercenaries?

>>1981745
Lol, look at this tard.

>>1988721
Is it me you're looking for?

>>1991292
Are you dutch?

>>1991292
wtf Kakok "Karlos" Kokok got their own custom shitmech added to the game????? insane

>>1990720
I reckon they'll keep making DLC for all their games until the well dries up. We don't know when that is.

>>1991292
Whoa...nice Lao Who!

Konnnichiwa maazaafaakaaz! Nozomi-sama desu waaa!!!!

>>1998919
Haruko is masturbating so fucking hard right now.

And then she saw >>1998919

Can I play in an online lobby with someone that owns Shadow of Kerensky if I don't own it myself?

>>2008237
Yeah you can do that with all MW5 DLCs
Cross-platform as well

YOU VILL BUY ZE MEKK PAKKS
YOU VILL GRAB ZE DEAL
https://mwomercs.com/shadow-hawk-iic

>>2010929
>yet another 4x missiles + 6x lasers medium chassis, with inferior shitmech variants that are just worse versions of the aforementioned
Woooooooowww......

>>2010929
I VILL VAIT FORE ZIT TO BE ADDED TO MW5

>>2010929
Put another shrimp on the barbie.

Is the Burger Knight hero good? I was thinking of getting it because it's one of only two mechs with a giant fucking shield.

>>2013394
He's OKAY but he's definitely not meta, because he is a bighugelarge BLAPCK Knight stuck with IS lasers. Plays okay with Binary Laser Cannons and ER Mediums, but ultimately it's just a gimmick. You can brawl with it alright too if you are a sicko like that, thoughbeit. Math it out on mech-nav-alpha before bothering with it.
t. fell for it

>>2013394
>shield on the wrong side
not steering wheel compliant

>>2013394
>no sword
They really gotta add Melee already

>>2013566
It's the japanese version

KONG could rule the sphere.
Nozomi did!
He took a KONG bigman to Mount Tryhard.
There was nothing left to conquer, the sphere was his.
But Nozomi is dead. His empire is gone.
And so we live in evil days.
The free men of KONG have turned on each other,
instead of their proper enemies, those who envy all KONG has done.
Nozomi must weep, if the dead weep.
I will weep in his place, but I will also hope.
The sphere turns. What was may come again.
The Fates still spin the web of men's lives.
So now, perhaps the golds wish KONG to be great again.
Perhaps a new Nozomi will take up the sword,
bring order where there is chaos,
remake the world of men into a better place...
perhaps.

I'm gonna buy the apache!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>2016647
Post build before you swipe

I don't understand why the Ares has such good stats. It's like the #1 or #2 IS medium hero by damage and score but it's just a standard Griffin with +1 energy HSL (that it can't even really use because lol 55 tons with 4 hardpoints)

>>2017889
Nozomi frowns upon you.

>>2017212
It's the jackattack factor.

>>2018035
Wallhacks?

>still no Lao Hu
>still no Argus
>still no Hollander
>still no LAMs
>still no limb lock-on targeting
>still no Streak Lurms
>still no equippable Long Toms
>still no Inferno or Thunder SRMs
>still no respawns or free for all mode
>still no No Heat Unlimited Ammo mode
>still no custom lobbies with custom rules and custom maps
>still no deals worth grabbing
It's over

If the Pirate's Base is so good why are its stats so bad?

>>2018035
homosexuality?

>>2019238
Popular with bads that are stubborn and refuse to be filtered

Do you guys talk about MW5 in here?

I started a fresh save and just completed the newest DLC yesterday. I really love the game, but I am honestly a little disappointed in regards to the limited mission types featuring the Clans. No Defense or Warzone. Most of the missions also feels incredibly overturned. It's very hard to complete a mission without actually loosing C-Bills due to repairs running a full Clan lance. The increased lethality really highlights how bad the AI is. I also dislike that you can only fight the clans in 400-Ton missions.. 400-Ton missions are the most boring ones in general.

>>2021566
>Do you guys talk about MW5 in here?
Yes
I get the feeling the Clan DLC was designed for players that had already beaten the game and were floating tens of millions of C-Bills and a large hangar to work with. not exactly the best possible path they could have taken, but this is PGI we're talking about.

are there any mechs that can bring 8-12 magshots or ap gauss along with two heavy ppcs or ppcs?

>>2023517
you're gonna love this one:
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=51d1b6e9_NCT-P

>>2024893
>11 AP Gauss
>2 PPCs
>but also... a Large Pulse Laser
>and a Heavy Medium Laser??
Huh???????? Was there really nothing better to spend those seven tons on?