Come here for talk about all things Pokémon Mystery Dungeon.

Previous thread: https://arch.b4k.dev/vp/thread/57815600/ >>57815600

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PMD Guides: https://pastebin.com/Dbq61R5u
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Everything about the Clover Guild: https://cloverguild.com/
Drawing Board: https://magma.com/d/tjpxa9tope
Mobile Drawing Board: https://magma.com/d/fx7arpnlcj
Drawing Request: https://rentry.org/DrawReqPublic

Questions:
>What is your favorite Pokémon to use in any PMD game and why?
>Do you try to beat level 1 dungeons or are they too hard for you?
>What is the luckiest you've been in any PMD game?
>How fire resistant are fire-types? Could they swim in lava or is it species dependent?

Recap of the previous thread:
>Discussion on Rom Hacks, art, and comics

Reply with your favorite PMD fanart or else you will NEVER wake up as a Pokemon.

>>57875454

>>57875454

>>57875454
captcha: h0mmd
>>57875437 (OP)
>>What is your favorite Pokémon to use in any PMD game and why?
most water types because i like routing with them
>>Do you try to beat level 1 dungeons or are they too hard for you?
i do not
>>What is the luckiest you've been in any PMD game?
that time when i could escape kecleon with tunnel wands
>>How fire resistant are fire-types? Could they swim in lava or is it species dependent?
i imagine they could swim in it but it'd be the equivalent of a really hot bath magnified so they'd have to get used to it

>>57875437 (OP)
>>What is your favorite Pokémon to use in any PMD game and why?
It's gotta be Wooper. Great walk animation, extremely useful abilities, best IQ group, and it's found early in nearly every game. Its moveset only got better as time went on, too.
>>Do you try to beat level 1 dungeons or are they too hard for you?
I've run them so much I have it down to a science.
>>What is the luckiest you've been in any PMD game?
Stealing a Tight Belt in Zero Isle South as a Meowth with nothing more than a single Warp Seed that didn't even take me directly to the stairs.

>>57875454
I do not support chain mail.

>>57875454

>>57872255
What if Spike Chunsoft hired that man and made a canon lyrical banger in a future title?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIQeJJrjllk

>>57875454
good, I don't want to.

>>57875454
'Mons might be off model but I like this guys work (realspacejunk)

>>57875454

>>57876839
>this shit was supposed to get a revival

>>57875454

>>57875454
This is a trick
You might wake up as something terrible like Pineco

>>57877910
Still better than paying taxes here. In fact, I'll roll a random one right now...
>Lonely Elgyem (male)
...yeah, still better than paying taxes

>>57878005
PMD has the worst taxes bro. Have you seen the guild rates?

>>57878018
>room and board provided
>generic ass C rank missions give ~200 bucks per
I'd be better off there than here that's for sure.

>>57878029
That, and worse comes to worse I can fuck off innawoods and live there.

>>57878018
>he doesn't take Gold Ribbon missons for tax evasion
kekyroo

>>57878005
>here
The anon only said you'll wake up as a Pokemon, not wake up in the PMD world
Anon is a scammer, don't fall for his tricks

I've been playing more Gates to Infinity, and recently finished the mission to Great Glacier. The characters, story, lore, and music are all enjoyable. Magnagates and ley lines in particular are a cool concept.

Unfortunately, the gameplay could be better. Dungeons have annoyingly winding hallways and repeat the same copy-pasted room shapes too much. Some dungeons even have extremely overleveled enemies roaming around, ready to ambush and oneshot you. And only being able to work on one mission at a time feels tedious and inefficient. On the topic of tediousness, I've been told that upgrading Paradise is very grindy, which is surely exacerbated by the one-mission limit (that said, I like the idea of building useful facilities and customizing your own Paradise). Lastly, removing rescue codes and replacing them with Streetpass is lame, since you can no longer simply share codes with people and help each other directly.

I'm still having fun with it despite the flaws, but I can understand why it's a relatively unpopular entry in the series.

Here's a concept I had recently for a new look for Booker. I always liked cloaks.
And now to answer some questions.

>>57815600
>Do you think ice-types have a low internal body temperature and fire-types a high body temp or just an icy/firey core? How cold/hot do you think they would be?
I think Ice-types feel cool and Fire-types feel warm.
>What is your least favorite special episode from EoS?
Maybe the Sunflora one, since I seem to recall the boss fight was annoying and the story wasn't particularly interesting.
>What is the hardest you've destroyed a PMD boss?
I remember using Smokescreen as a Cyndaquil to cheese Primal Dialga.
>How do Pokemon celebrate big events? Fireworks? Flashy displays of advanced moves?
Both of those ideas sound good.

>>57875437 (OP)
>What is your favorite Pokémon to use in any PMD game and why?
I enjoyed Heracross in RTDX because it let me spam multihit moves. Unfortunately, it didn't have Rapid Bullseye, so I had to bring along another mon that did have it so I could get guaranteed 5-hit attacks on Heracross.
>Do you try to beat level 1 dungeons or are they too hard for you?
Too hard.
>What is the luckiest you've been in any PMD game?
I don't really remember any super good luck. I remember plenty of times when I got unlucky, though.
>How fire resistant are fire-types? Could they swim in lava or is it species dependent?
They can probably tolerate heat better than other types, and they don't burn as easily. I think they can all swim through lava in the games, right? But realistically, I imagine only some Fire-types can withstand liquid hot magma.

>>57813087
Also: shoutout to the anon who reviewed all those comics recently. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

>>57878351
The game certainly has its flaws but i honestly think it's underrated, i wish people would give it more attention

>>57875454

Finally got around to doing this; forgot about Ikarus' portrait but hey, he's a ghost so it works out.

>>57875437 (OP)
>What is your favorite Pokémon to use in any PMD game and why?
Eevee, for obvious reasons.
>Do you try to beat level 1 dungeons or are they too hard for you?
I'm a fake fan since I've never played one of those before.
>What is the luckiest you've been in any PMD game?
Remembering to save before I ascended Temporal Tower so I could savescum since I lost a crapton of critical items when I fainted.
>How fire resistant are fire-types? Could they swim in lava or is it species dependent?
Depends more on the species than type imo. A magcargo would probably be fine but a typhlosion might outlast most other mons only slightly longer.

>>57878721
>observation that high on Pirth
this fucker is BLIND

>>57878403
How do wings fit under the cloak?

>>57878721
>3/4 members of the team have an empathy of 3
Fuckin' sociopaths, the whole lot of em

>>57878721
Are you making this for some sort of game system?

>>57879780
Nope! It was shared on the last thread and I finally got around to doing it for my main team.

>>57879680
:^)

I think the next PMD games should play more like Animal Crossing. That being, a life sim game, but Pokemon

>>57880336
that's poképark

>>57880336
No, the combat is part of the Pokemon fantasy. I would accept a Harvest Moon/Rune Factory setup, though.

>>57880336
You want a spin-off for a spin-off?

>>57880639
I just want new content, man.
But yea, some basic house building and village interactions would be nice.

>>57880336
>next PMD games
I love how optimistic you are

>>57879492
The cloak is open on the back, similar to the front. It covers his sides but not his front or back, leaving room for the wings.

>>57880336
That wouldn't be a PMD game anymore, but I'd still love to see a game like that set in the PMD world.

Story archive updated. As usual, let us know if anything is missing.
Buoy-anon, there's a space for personality blurbs for your characters, if you'd like to create & put them on the thread.

>>57875454

another shitpost drawing made for no reason.
Ikarus testing Piaget's theory of conservation.
Shelby vs. the conservation of volume.

>>57883381
Doing the lord's work. I love you anon
>>57883500
I request more simpsons references

>>57883956
She needs some gummis so she can IQmax

Would hot air balloons exist in PMD?

>>57884571
I think that could be a neat, old-feeling mode of travel for the setting. Probably slower than getting a big bird to carry you around but it probably feels a lot more stable.

>>57884571
>gas powered flame
Too far.

>>57878029
Since it comes in hundreds, it's probably supposed to be equivalent to yen, so it's more likely $2

>>57875454

>>57884594
Have it be a team of fire types creating the flames!

>>57884594
Bring up the Numel.

>>57885385
He's too fat, the balloon can't fly

>>57875454

>>57875454

>>57887572
Hate the artist but this is accurate. Seven Symphonies fucking sucks

>>57885946
>hay bed
>AND open flame

>>57888271
>a tree stump inside a larger tree
what did they mean by this?

>>57888464
>dig it up
>use as a table in house
problem?

>>57888271
I forget deposit boxes exist all the time

>>57886939
This makes me think of how someone randomly waking up in PMD could end up stressing over the possibility of also randomly being sent back at any moment.
Or how the Rescue partner could be afraid of it happening again at any moment.

>>57888837
These two images look really odd, since I'm not used to seeing the characters in the opposite artist's style.

>>57888837
>>57891239
I don't know who the characters are, but it's neat to see artists collaborate

drawing a lot but not pages ha ha...
also i heard my intro comic had broken link recently i fixed it but it may happen to the rest of my chap 1 so i might have to redo them in my rentry https://rentry.co/EmeraldSpark

so i am still doin it but like everytime has slow has humanly possible

>>57892049
From the thumbnail, I thought the character on the top right was this thing from Yokai Watch
Anyway, keep up the good work

>>57878721
I made some in collaboration with other anons, feel free to post them to the thread if you haven't

>>57892049
kino

Vote for the next Drawingboard here!

Reminders:
you have 3 votes but don't have to use them all
right click -> open image in new tab to see image in full view
size doesn't matter because the winning background will be upscaled with Ai anyway


https://strawpoll.com/Q0Zp7O8WDgM

Reposting the blank sheet. Gonna make ones for my team while I think about >>57892382 and which one I want to vote for

>>57893101
I'm stupid, what's x5+3 for?

>>57893144
I have no idea. I also don't know what you're supposed to be measuring against when picking stats. Just vibes?

>>57893144
The original rules gave you 10 stat points. You distributed those across the 4 major stats, then multiplied it by 5, plus 3 base. That is your skill points for that stat

So even if you had 1 point in strength, you still had 1x5+3 skill points to spend.

A lot of people who did these in Clover and just put in random bullshit, though. They're from a PMD roleplay group that used to exist on deviantart. I think there was a means to raise your stats. Since Clover is just a collaborative fiction, these sheets don't have any obligations except for fun.

>A lot of people who did these in Clover and just put in random bullshit, though.
Probably because the person who posted it didn't explain anything, just dropped the blank sheet in.

>>57893219
To clarify, assuming you want to fill these out legit, 1 point minimum in an attribute. Can't be a 0 strength quadrupalegic pile of shit. Muk doesn't count.

>>57893238
You heard the man. Time to redo them

>>57893243
can we start calling quadruplebs another slur like quadruplegic

>>57894492
Dick draggers.

Captcha:
>N84NA
>BA(NA)NA

>>57895106
obsessed

congratulations on completing the 52th drawingboard!!

It's filled with kino, I especially love the little clover badge in the middle.

It has been a while... Next drawingboard is a background drawingboard! The winning background is the osen at night! We did the osen before, but it was during the day: https://cloverguild.com/booru/post/645 . Now let's do it at night!

join in! https://magma.com/d/kMQ2VJ9rEg

>>57895736
mobile link: https://magma.com/d/NJ0oTq15qp

>>57894826
It do be draggin tho

>What is your favorite Pokémon to use in any PMD game and why?
Grass types that can learn bullet seed. Just machine gun down anything like, 5 squares ahead of you. Chikorita is my best friend
>Do you try to beat level 1 dungeons or are they too hard for you?
It took me so many tries to get through Purity Forest in Blue that now all level 1 dungeons that let you bring items seem like easy mode
>What is the luckiest you've been in any PMD game?
I found a Thunderbolt TM alarmingly early in my Bulbasaur/Skitty playthrough of sky that helped carry me all the way through. That was pretty lucky, I guess
>How fire resistant are fire-types? Could they swim in lava or is it species dependent?
Probably depends on species, but all pokemon that have Flash Fire can swim in lava. Heidi swims in lava

>>57893101
Did this instead of working on more important stuff. Vaguely followed the >>57893219 guidelines, but messed around with it a little. Made some cute little face icons to go with it.

>>57895736
based. Will draw

>>57896693
>my Bulbasaur/Skitty playthrough of sky
Did you create your guild team based on that playthrough? Or was it the other way around?

>>57898162
Idgi

>>57896693
Cute icons! Love these scamps

And I'm done with Rescue Team. Pretty short game, finished the main story in 10 hours while the post-game took me an additional 17. Surprisingly enough I ended up liking the partner in this game more than the one in explorers, it was funny how the game allowed you to gaslight and banter with them, something I found Sky to be lacking in are they homeless?. Friends area were sick too, bountiful sea is fucking gorgeous and it's a shame they apparently haven't done anything similar to this since. Only problem I had was that I feel like some of the post game stories could've been added in the main story, while the pacing was quick and snappy the moment the game picks up is also where it ends. Most people probably missed the Gengar sidequest despite that being one of the best parts of the game except when he's being decked by Shedninjas who clips through walls
that being said the game does feel like a beta of explorers but there's a few things it does better. anyway that means that GTI is next, heard that one is the black sheep of the series. Is it bad or does it simply have some flaws that's too hard to ignore? xoxo

>>57899095
>are they homeless?
they live at the guild then they have a home in postgame

>>57899120
I think they were talking about the RT partner. DX has some lore cutscene explaining where they live, right?

>>57899095
Yeah the Gengar quest is pretty peak. I wish it wasn't buried in the post game.

Don't let all the negative press around Gates fool you. It is a very sovlful game. It's issues are mostly in the gameplay sector. Paradise came out a little raw, and the dex is pretty small. Only five starter choices too

>>57875437 (OP)
I am once again asking for your support.
wishcave 19

>>57899909
Sorry, I don't assist germans

hey dudes!
hard to believe it's already been a year (probably a little over, but whatever) since i made it here officially. wanted to just write a short post and regard my gratitude to /pmdg/ for being a shining beacon in this sea of mongolian basketweaving techniques. you guys are the best, and here's to many more years of tomfoolery.
more stories coming soonish, got a lot in the works. and here's hoping we get literally anything PMD related soon. hoping the monkey paw doesnt curl too hard neither

I am still alive, and still slowly churning out my next story

>>57901981
Holy FUCKING BASED!!! Your shit makes me harder than latios and latias in Super MD

>>57893101
Thanks, here is the Bucket Brigade. I promise to all that is good and holy, Ruby is not a Mary Sue

>>57879680
Fish aren't known for their empathy, moron

>>57899095
Nice
I've been playing Gates and sharing some thoughts, if you want to see what I think >>57878351

>>57902305
Damn that guy is tiny. Maybe Pokemon can shrink.

>>57902305
Yeah i already started playing it and it definitely seems like they fucked up the dungeon generation, the camera being too zoomed in doesn't help either. One mission limit is kind of a bummer too since i'd always take them in batches but otherwise i'm liking it so far, still at the beginning though so i'll see how that develops

>>57902318
flareon is always absurdly fucking tiny, I seriously think they base its height off the tip of its tail lmao

>eevee is 1'
>flareon is 2'7
>glaceon is 2'9

>>57902203
Very glad to hear you're still around. Cannot wait to see the next story

>>57901981
good to see you still around brother! you have become one of my closest friends over the year, here's to more shenanagins

>>57902370
>Adrian is a monlet

>>57904037
Explains why he’s so pissed all the time

>being angry all the time stunts your growth

>>57904478
> re-evolved into a monlet

Imagine voluntarily choosing to have a small dick.

>>57904588
how do you know that Enny

>>57875437 (OP)
I was looking at trying a PMD game, but I'm not sure which one to pick. Whichever one I pick I'm just going to buy a physical copy, so can you guys recommend me a game that's good as-is on console?
>captcha pmd2rp
And I'm not a furry, so whichever one has the best story too, I guess. I want to see if I can be converted.

>>57905538
>PMD2
Coincidentally, PMD2 (specifically Explorers of Sky) is widely agreed to be the best game

>>57905538
sky is usually the go to recommendation, if you want physical as in an actual official cartridge they are like 100+ usd
otherwise I think super is probably the 2nd best

>>57905563
>>57905573
I'll give Explorers of Sky a shot, thanks!

>>57905490
Something about everyone being naked is a start.

I'm not touching this shit

>>57906097
Speak up, I couldn’t hear you from all the way down there.

page 10 bump

I was playing more Gates, and I got to a cutscene that presented some interesting ideas.
Apparently, Pokemon can alter reality with their minds--in this game, a large amount of negative emotions caused the destructive Bittercold to spawn as a manifestation of everyone's collective negativity. And the world itself has a similar ability where it can spawn the Voice of Life out of its innate desire to survive when it's in grave danger. The Voice tries to protect the world from whatever threat it's facing, and in Gates, this incarnation of the Voice began summoning humans because it believed they could resist the Bittercold’s power better than native Pokemon.
I thought this loredump was cool for a few reasons. First, the potential for Pokemon's minds and emotions to affect the physical world is intriguing (and kinda reminds me of Warhammer). I wonder what the extent of this ability is. I also appreciated how the protagonist isn't the only human. It stokes curiosity about what the other humans' experiences were like, and it prevents the protagonist from being a generic chosen one. Furthermore, the fact that so many other humans were already defeated by the villains adds to the stakes and makes the conflict feel more serious. Lastly, Bittercold's ability to weaken Pokemon means there's actually a good reason why the Pokemon can't solve their own problems, thus necessitating the hero being a human.
However, I have to question why the Voice didn't appear when the world was threatened in all the other PMD games (unless it did play a role and I just forgot). And if I remember correctly, Super's main villain is very similar to Bittercold, so I may have to dock points from Super for being unoriginal if that's the case.

>>57907947
People didn't believe me and called this kingdom hearts shit when I brought it up ages ago. I am vindicated

>>57907947
I think Gardevoir became a Voice of Life in Rescue Team? That might just be someone's headcanon I picked up at some point, though.

>>57907947
>And if I remember correctly, Super's main villain is very similar to Bittercold,
I still can't remember which one is which half the time, they might as well just be the same fucking "force"

>>57907947
>However, I have to question why the Voice didn't appear when the world was threatened in all the other PMD games
The easiest way to answer that is to say that PMD games are not in the same continuity.

>>57908016
I don't remember exactly how RT depicted her, but that would be an cool connection if she was a Voice of Life too. Was she the one who communicated with the protagonist of RT and brought them to the Pokemon world? If so, that means she has the same power as the Voice of Life in Gates, which is notable.

to be posted the work must be without flaw.
to be without flaw the work must be improved.
to be improved the work must be criticized.
to be criticized the work must be posted.
to be posted the work must be without flaw.

>>57909574
>to be posted the work must be without flaw.
lol what? That was never a rule. Don’t make up excuses.

>>57909574
good, now fuck off and kys.

>>57909579
He's right though

>>57899909
well that room was an utter disaster uh.
here's your rescue anyhow

>>57909574
the eternal struggle...

>>57909574
You'll never improve if you shy away from criticism.

>>57909746
Wrong.

>>57911156
I didn't know Shia made a guest appearance in Super

>>57909574
kill yourself faggot, you're writing shitty fanfics for a spin off series no one cares about, you're no shakespeare

>>57907947
I think my partner may need glasses if it took him this long to notice.
More importantly, I got to that scene in Gates. It was surprisingly brutal. I'd seen it talked about before, so I knew it was coming, but I thought it'd come later. RIP Hydreigon. Granted, I won't be surprised if he comes back, since he's some sort of esoteric spirit entity rather than a regular Pokemon (and this is a kid's game after all). Regardless, it was definitely surprising to see Kyurem literally fall out of the sky and instantly ice Hydreigon (heh), and then proceed to stomp the snot out of the hero over and over again. I liked seeing the partner throw himself in front of Kyurem to try and shield the hero, but the way Kyurem suddenly stopped and said "I see you lost the will to fight, so I'll let you live" felt contrived, as if the writers had trouble finding a way for the hero and partner to escape their situation.
One more thing about Hydreigon: I'm not the biggest fan of how he's a goofball the majority of the time, considering he's the Voice of Life. I figured he'd be more serious considering his crucial role. On the other hand, I guess it serves to make him more clearly innocent and likeable, which emphasizes how the villains were lying about him.

>>57911187
You're getting really worked up over him not posting his shitty fanfic

>>57910010
thank you so much. I was going to give up if nobody had saved me by now.

>>57911256
>waaah waaah waaah writing fanfics is so le hard!!!
>>then don't
>ummmm sweetie ur getting worked up for ts fr fr no cap blud

>>57911256
Just ignore the trolls

Interesting lore question I've been thinking about instead of finishing stories.
How much variation do you think there is between baby Pokemon of different species in regards to their state at birth and their growth rate (precocious vs altricial).
As far as we know, pokemon hatch individually (not from litters/clutches), which is generally a sign of high parental investment in nature.
In one story, KFC came out of the egg basically a fully functioning child, much like a real chicken. Do you think most Pokemon are born like that, or are they less common? Do you think they match up basically to their irl counterpart?
Personally, I like to think most species develop much like their irl species, but skewing more towards humanlike phases of infant/child/teen for the sake of relatability.
The game mechanic of "everyone hatches basically a full grown adult" is obviously a limitation on the gameplay and not to be taken as exact truth.

>>57912191
I always preferred the idea of newborn Pokemon not being fully developed

>>57911700
He's so mad

>>57912191
I like to believe all Pokémon are born to become semi-functional rather quickly. Pokémon are elemental infused fighting creatures and they're ready to instinctively defend theirselves mere hours from birth. This early phase of development quickly gives way to higher awareness and learning. Pokémon in PMD might not reach maturity at the same rate as humans and it might even be somewhat quicker. It's difficult to assess without any clear Pokémon lifespans at what rate this would happen.

>>57911191
>spoiler
they overplay it in my opinion to the point of ludicrousy. it's their get out of jail free card for diverting answering questions about the lore with the character acting utterly stupidly wacky cause it's funny for some reason
>>57911294
tbf i thought someone else was gonna get to it before me. guess not
>>57912191
i jive with something close to this post >>57912449
but not to the extent the games do where the characters are essentially completely capable. in my fanfic, i roll with the idea they hatch at the mental capacity of roughly a young human child and work their way up from there using manaphy in pmd2 as a slightly altered explanation of such.

basically, i'm of the opinion they hatch with basic functions but refining would happen over the lifespan of an individual

>>57912191
Which way, Western Man?

Newborn pokemon are pretty independent since birth. Manaphy was able to up and go for a beach walk on like day two of being hatched? There's no mention of them needing any special care either, like baby food or whatever, other than being in a wrong environment.
So I'd say they're roughly equivalent to a 10-12 year old when they hatch. Fighting also seems to be pretty intrinsic to a pokemon, freshly hatched or not; in Super, the MC is said to have put up a pretty good fight against multiple opponents despite being attacked almost immediately after being transported to the pokemon world, and only loses when their memory gets erased.
I don't think the species makes any difference, in regards to comparing them to their RL basis. Unlike real animals, all pokemon have exactly the same breeding/hatching process, and are broadly mostly compatible with each other, so I'd argue their babies should also behave in the same way.

just finished special episode 0, i can somewhat get the edginess although overly cringy at times since it's set in the dark future, but holy shit it somehow turned into a shitty jojo wannabe midway through and dusknoir's story was so badly written it's comical

>>57913746
i'm so fucking sick of edge in stories for the sake of it

>>57913746
words cannot describe how much i despise sped 0 and its even more retarded sequel

>>57913458
It's mentioned somewhere in the main series that Pokemon are ready, able, and mature enough to handle themselves as soon as the egg hatches. All their development is already finished. Newborn Pokemon acting like babies is purely for plot reasons (Manaphy hatching in D/P is perfectly capable for both combat and breeding right out of the egg, while the one in Explorers and the one in the Movie are babified to make their respective plots happen).

>>57914810
Ash's Riolu hatched and immediately fucks off to try and explore the world with all the energy of an autistic kid. I just think babbies in PMD are already a handful because it's more or less a baby with superpowers but also the survival instincts of a coked out cat.

>>57915043
Riolu is specifically a baby Pokemon though, which is probably a special case.

>>57875437 (OP)
>Time Edition
Well, it's about time, huh?

The next entry in Team Eevee's saga, Black and White, Act 2 (and 3!) is now out! In sum the stories are ~30k including the Ikarus story, so there's your fair time management warning.

Also, this story could not have been possible without the immense time and energy put in by my wonderful beta readers Ribombee-anon, Reunianon, and a Random anon. Seriously, I cannot sing enough praises as to how incredible they are; this story is as much a product of their time and effort as it is my own.

And of course, thank you to all the other anons who provided encouragement and support during this very long writing process. I love the Clover Guild so much <3 Without further ado, here are:

>Black and White, Act 2
(https://rentry.org/CG-BWA2)

>Black and White, Act 3
(https://rentry.org/CG-BWA3)

Enjoy you lovely fuggers!

>>57915186
>arimis file name
>espeon in the waters reflection
I expect to see a whole lot of peak in these stories fren.

>>57914703
what's the qrd on the sequel?

>>57915186
i'm starting to feel really uncomfortable how stubbornly these stories cling to that one aspect of each of the disableds as if it's paramount and nothing else must be done to attempt to fix it.
there's never anything satisfactory. starting to feel like it'll never end.
good writings i guess

>>57915782
I don't know that that's fair. Basically all the characters are shown to be taking some steps towards confronting the source of their personal issues by the end of the story. I'll admit it's kind of frustrating to watch these characters churning their wheels so hard to justify their awful decisions and get very little pushback from the others around them, but that seems to be part of the theme the author is going for. That these characters are so deeply flawed that they run the risk of driving away all potential allies for the sake of the unity of their team, whose very foundation is crumbling beneath them. For all their talk of this "strong friendship", it seems like every member of the team is actually incredibly self centered and don't seem to have any natural chemistry that makes you believe they actually care for one another beyond the most surface level. I was surprised to learn that Althi considers Aramis a friend, when they've sort of been shown as little more than acquaintances that both have some ties to d'Alin.
Althi retains the title of the worst member by a country mile. Pirth is quickly becoming the most likable of the four.
The levels of dramatic violence and angst is dipping slightly into 2edgy4u territory for my liking, but I wouldn't say that's a strike against the story, it's just my personal preference.
I'd say it's a well written story that's obviously only part of a larger, more fulfilling narrative that has yet to be fully laid out.

>>57915186
Honestly the whole Drew arc felt a little spiteful, yeah he was a fat mean stupid pervert everyone hated. Glad he died. Ew I stepped in his guts
Pirth is top guy, as always.

>>57916719
i realize that it's thematics, i'm not the kind of person who's going to outright dismiss it on that level, but i just feel kind of miffed that i went through the whole length of that only for it essentially to be a nothingburger even if it is part of a grander scheme. that's with each o the changes they attempt to display here. i just feel remarkably disappointed that the characters work towards a grand reveal and then it's just mental gymnastics to justify baby steps.

let's hope that actually happens then if that's gonna be the case aaaaa

>>57875454
Uhhhh this one >>57886188

>>57915186
>most sane member of team eevee is a white supremacist

>>57918178
>censoring the word "faggot" when it's literally the entire joke
Why do people even do this? Either nut up and use the actual word like a real gay person would, or don't bother making jokes about it

>>57918190
It's making an actual chud like (you) upset. I think that's a win.

>>57918259
>I mildly aggravated some random anon for a few seconds. I win the day

Hackjam's underway, can't wait to see the blunders

>>57918562
>Hack jam gimmick is using the top screen
I wonder if I can look at my uno hand with it

>>57918667
>uno
and it's all over my screen

context for uninitiated is that a 8 man dev team made a hack that broke immediately in the first dungeon, then they went and posted about their dev OCs playing uno on reddit in the hack to shill it. then you check his leddit history and the first thing he posted before that was picrel

>>57918326
Yes.

>>57918809
Spend too much time fapping to transformation fetish art, forgot to finish the hack

>>57918809
I don't know what disgusts me more, the card transformation fetish or that fucking "table"

>>57919194
A table as viewed from directly overhead, apparently.

>>57915186
41% meme arimis

>>57915186
Read Act 2.
I don't exactly agree that nothing changes, although maybe it will go back to the status quo by the end of Act 3.

The standout here was of course Arimis - her mental struggles and her decision on her own to choose the truth. Of course, it was just as apocalyptic as expected. To some extent I would consider it a mark against the story if Arimis just pops out as an Espeon and everyone glosses over it at the end of part 3, but I could see (and even understand the reasoning behind both on an IC and OOC level) it happening.

I do agree that to a certain extent Althi and Arimis seem more like casual acquaintances than actually close friends, but perhaps that's more because of how long it's been since I've read the previous stories: maybe there was more about it in one of those.

Pirth continues to be the best boy, despite also being completely insane. Althi has accelerated her trip down the slippery slope by casting ice all the way in front of her.

Not very much focus on d'Alin this time, but I suppose that's fair considering he's on the less problematic side by far. It seems like the Cave of Truth is assaulting 'mon with falsehoods, and the Cave of Ideals is presenting them with, uh, anti-ideals? What is the opposite of an ideal, anyway?

>>57915186
>>57920010
Act 3:
A fitting climax and catharsis to the whole plot. I was half-expecting it to erupt into a fight scene, but I'm glad it didn't.

Althi was lucky she didn't have the internet and conspiracy theory websites to egg her on. But then again, she doesn't really need them, does she? They all have numerous problems (even more so than at the start), but this far from the end of their story, so that makes sense. It's odd (in an unexpected rather than bad way) that Pirth of all people seems the closest to confronting his personal problems.

Ikarus's side story was amusing. I'd definitely believe that the dreepy are just messing with him over being literal demons who feast off the concept of sin, though. The only way I could buy that is if it implies some things about Drew's original cosmology that had not at all been hinted at previously.

>>57915186
>>57920253
Going back to the other anon's point, if you viewed the team as a square, I think I definitely would (have liked) like to see more interactions along the diagonals.

>>57920805
He can't keep getting away with it

I'm here with another batch of comic reviews. If you want to look at the previous reviews: https://arch.b4k.dev/vp/thread/57777109/#q57813087

I'm going to give the name, the artist, where to find it; main character species, if any of them is a human, which game it follows, if any, if it contains spoilers; genre/theme; artstyle; and my take on it.

Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Alliance (by HipsterFlamingo, comicfury)

Noibat human, Fennekin partner. Set some time after Super, occasionally references it but I wouldn't call it spoiling. The setting is also modernized, basically having 21st century Earth level of technology. This might be a turn-off for some, but honestly it's pretty unobtrusive, it's not like they have guns; this is still a PMD story.

Adventure, fights, character interaction. Very game-y, with stats, levels, IVs, EVs, moves, etc, being a thing that clearly exists and taking game mechanics literally. Generally maintains a serious tone aside from that.

Toony artstyle that gets better over time, though it remains kind of blobby. Also somewhat anthoified.

I'm personally not a huge fan of the level of silliness it operates in regards to the game mechanics, but that's a me problem. Unlike most comics that do this, it doesn't use them for jokes, it's treated completely seriously and actually used for drama. (Do you still call it eugenics if the characters are pokemon?) The story was intriguing enough for me to binge-read the whole thing, which took me a few hours. It wasn't amazing, but I am looking forward to more. The characters are fairly good, they feel distinct enough, they have their own personalities, interests, and goals, and meaningfully contribute to the story. Finished 10 chapters over 5 years, and was supposedly halfway done after chapter 9, so there's hope that it gets finished.
I think the central mystery is being dragged out a bit too much, because the questions posed in the first chapters made very little progress so far, and I hope it's not going to be just a big infodump in the last chapter - so far, the fact that MC is a human is only important in that it makes him a McGuffin. I'm giving the comic a few extra points for having an uncommon pokemon MC. Also, don't look at ref sheets in bonus pages unless you want spoilers.

PMD: Gleaming Hearts (by Fidchell + a bunch of people, comicfury)

Early spoilers for MCs: Riolu human, Fennekin partner, plus Sandslash that hangs next to them; I can't call him a main character, sorry, he's literally a space filler. Original story with an occasional reference to the games.

Adventure, comedy, more comedy early, more adventure later. There's a story, but it's given out in teaspoons until the last chapter, and the rest of it is just moving from point A to B. And I feel like I have to note "pokemon eating food" as one of the genres because a lot of time is spent on it.

Flat artstyle that makes everyone look pudgy. Peculiar.

This one was brought up in the last thread, and I have a lot of things to say about it; which means most of them aren't good. First, there's a tendency that as soon as the main characters run into a problem, something very convinient immediately happens to either resolve it for them or give them an easy way to resolve it. Second, antagonists turning out to actually have good reasons to be that way or just being misunderstood then befriending the MCs happens way too often. Literally the only time that doesn't happen is the stupid fire birds. Third, I think the comic spends too much time in a state where the main antagonist is completely untouchable and has all the cards, and doesn't really use that time to advance the plot nor for character development. The epitome of it is (chapter 7 spoilers) the scene where MCs evolve. Very little build-up, the evolution just happens through a purely physical effect, and then there's no resolution either, a couple of people shrug and go "oh, cool" and nothing really changes. Oh, and also in that scene the MC reveals to his partner that he's a human... which gets completely ignored. All of that leads to the story having too little tension, too few stakes to be exciting. (1/2)

I'm also disappointed in the last chapter. Not only is the way the story is going to end was completely obvious from the moment where MC was told that he could let Hector disappear to save his own life, there isn't really an emotional wrap-up (a running theme at that point). MC pretty much just says "yeah I did a bad thing, but I'm sorry", and that's all we get. I mean, why waste time exploring that any deeper? Just throw in a heroic sacrifice and skip all the complicated stuff, you're going to get brought back by yet another convenient deus ex machina anyway. This sacrifice doesn't serve any purpose, it's just a way for Jake to make things up to Hector without actually DOING anything. And even then he's presented as not really being at fault (also a running theme, you may have noticed) because he was pressured.
This one gets such a long write-up not because it's bad; there are many far worse comics out there. It's the opposite: it's on the verge of being really good. But unfortunately, poor pacing, lack of proper build-ups and resolutions, and boring character development really sink the story. It's also finished, which is a milestone many comics do not make. (2/2)

PMD: Another Perspective (by MRZoet, comicfury)

Purrloin human, Cyndaquil partner. Loosely based on rescue team; no real spoilers so far.

Comedy, character interaction, some fights. Makes jokes about game mechanics (The Stairs Joke).

Hand-drawn! Sometimes pen and pencil, sometimes watercolor. Sticks to official body style.

This one's gimmick is that the MC is a team rocket grunt intentionally sent to the pokemon world. It's pretty nice to have an MC with agency and their own goals, and she and the partner make a good duo. Unfortunately, this comic is only 128 pages so far, and isn't updated very regularly; the story is only starting up. It's a nice read as-is, but any kind of resolution is nowhere in sight.

PMD: The Human Connection (by EnergyLux/EnergyLuxray, comicfury)

Tepig human, Riolu partner. Post-all games, references them and isn't shy about spoiling them; ch1p26 and Q&A2 (which straight-up gives out one of the biggest spoilers of Super) in particular.

So far almost entirely character interaction.

Pretty well-drawn, better than I expected looking at the title card. Most of the comic is b/w, manga-styled, with an occasional colored page. Also, most pages have alt text on hover.

I like this comic. The chapters that currently exist mostly deal with introducing and examining the characters, and the MC is both struggling with the fact that they've been turned into a pokemon and being in an unfamiliar world, something my soul yearns for. It gets a silver medal just for that (gold is still taken by Anamnesis). The dynamic between the MCs is also quite good and well-written. It has five chapters so far; pages release with reasonable frequency during the chapter, but the artist takes fairly long breaks between chapters.

PMD: The Rogue Team (by Teeterglance, comicfury)

Fennekin human, Treecko partner. No direct references to the games.

Too short to evaluate.

The artstyle is pretty nice, fairly anthroified.

This comic is 80 pages long and has been on a hiatus since Jan 2024. The author assures it'll continue some day. I hope that's true, because it looks pretty promising. I don't have much to say about it other than that the artstyle is nice and the partner's personality is interesting.

Eeveelution Squad (by EV-Zero, deviantart)

No humans, one of every eeveelution plus eevee. More characters appear later, including more eevees and eeveelutions and the time jumps back and forth which made it very difficult for me to follow who is who. No direct references to the games.

Starts as a gag-a-day comedy, except decompressed so not every page gets a gag with a dash of will they won't they. Later turns into... I don't even know how to describe.

The artstyle is about as simple as it can get. It is, however, fairly clean.

It has 1023 pages including all the bonus chapters, but this ain't Tales of Elysium; many pages are really small and simple, particularly early. Anyway, the start of the comic is basically just cute without any serious thought. There's some really basic humor. The dialogue often veers into pure nonsense. It's not uncommon to have several pages in a row where nothing happens that could have been one PANEL. No real plot, just eeveelutions beating each other up, being horny for each other, talking about random nonesense, or all of those things at once because tsundere. It then takes a sudden pivot to a hard-to-follow plot, which is still kinda nonsense but now suddenly has a lot of close relatives being killed. It's hard to take it seriously when the same page has a flashback to a character learning that his parents are dead and also "I wish you were a girl because you're girly, then I'd have a girlfriend". Somewhere at that point the comic becomes mostly walls of text of nonsense dialogue. If you need a perfect example of why "show, don't tell" is a rule, look no further. I didn't finish reading it because I got bored, but I glanced at some later pages and it seems to just get more insane.

Rising Ashes (by RustyEevee, comicfury)

No humans; HeartGold nuzlocke, except instead of humans it's just pokemon characters in a sort of Johto Mystery Dungeon setting.

Adventure, feels.

The artstyle is a bit derpy (totodile in particular), but it's cute and I like how the cyndaqil is drawn. Close to official art, but takes liberties.

56 pages in about 4 months, followed by a 4 month break, and now posting 1 page a week. As I said, I like the artstyle, I like how the main character is drawn. The concept seems very intriguing and the dialogues are well-written and flow nicely. There's not many pages yet, but I like what I see so far.

>>57921842

>>57921842
>Fidchell + a bunch of people
Does that mean there’s a bunch of artists who take turns drawing pages, or one main artist plus other people handling different roles like coloring and writing?

>>57922194
Main artist plus other people. I believe Fidchell did all lineart and a good chunk of coloring. Every page has credits listed and who did what. And from what I understand it was mostly paid work.

>hackjam
>they're all made by absolute hacks
ludokino

my kindred spirit returns
>>57921838
This comic started off a lot stronger, but I feel as though its lost the sauce in the last few chapters. It felt like it had some sort of actual story/idea and cooler worldbuilding at the start, but it's sorta just spiraled into shitty Jojo's Bizarre Adventure's chapters lately with no actual substance. I couldn't even really tell you what's going on anymore, but maybe that's because I haven't given it a full read through in a while.

>>57921842
This comic is definitely a disappointment. I didn't realize it reading it as it came out, but you're right about solutions just falling into their lap. Also, I feel as though a lot of questions went unanswered, like what precisely the MC was doing before he got isekai'd, and the weird Mimikyu character (but maybe I'm just retarded)

Also, this guy's a vore artist. And unlike our beloved Abridgestry fatfag, there's several scenes in this comic where it obviously leaks in, like when the Mimikyu swallows all of them. Good god man...

>>57921850
Really good, great premise. Good character dynamics and it's got an appealing art style. Too bad updates are so slow...

>>57921851
Pretty good, but the pacing feels a bit slow. It's been running for a few years and our MCs only just joined their guild properly. I'm glad to get good character exploration, but it feels early to be doing deep dives on the characters before anything has really even happened. Give me some more bog standard stuff to get me familiarized with the characters on a more surface level before you drop deeper character lore on me.

>>57921859
Great art, interesting characters, but AAAIIIEEE hiatus. Curious to see where it goes when it resumes

>>57921862
>eevee comic
I don't think there's a single all/mostly Eevee comic out there that isn't like this. Something about eevee and eeveelutions attracts the most tumblr individuals

>>57921865
Haven't read this one, but I think I've seen it in passing - will give it a read sometime.

>>57922285
Eevee is an easy to draw cat/fox/dog thing. It's in all the marketing. It's gonna attract transsexuals

>>57921862
I remember reading some of this a while ago. It was cute fluff at first, then I skipped ahead to the more current chapters and it became totally unrecognizable, full of edge and deep lore and technology (I think there was even a mecha or power armor at some point). Since I skipped so much of the comic, I’ve always wondered how and why the tone shifted this much.

>>57922280
>This comic started off a lot stronger, but I feel as though its lost the sauce in the last few chapters.
I wouldn't say these chapters are completely empty of substance, they give build-up and introduce side characters, but I agree that they feel like zany adventures that put the main story on hold. It would have been nice to have them ultimately tie back to it and slowly reveal it. I'd probably think worse of it if I was reading it as the pages were coming out, though. Here's hoping the current chapter will have some reveals.

>I feel as though a lot of questions went unanswered
You're not alone. I kept expecting Mimikyu to turn out to be an antagonist, or at least someone with their own agenda, but honestly it was probably just more deus ex machina. I can forgive not showing what exactly the MC did because it's not important, but it definitely adds to the feeling of unfinishedness.
>there's several scenes in this comic where it obviously leaks in, like when the Mimikyu swallows all of them
Oh, I sussed that out long before that scene. Chapter 2 pages 16/17 made it blatant enough. Once you notice the way the maws and stomachs are drawn and the amount of food and eating, you can't unsee it. I didn't really want to say it on the account of that guy who got really upset learning that about Abridgestry a few threads back.

>>57922448
It's a really abrupt shift between chapter 4 (wacky jolteon/glaceon romance) and special chapter 1 ("my parents were murdered" backstory). SC1 follows C4, the order is just confusing. Basically, author decided to give everyone edgy tragic backstories and make the story intense with the subtlety of a sledgehammer. There's some BS about a virus that turns people crazy, too.

>>57922469
>our parents are dead
>yo our friends parents "adapted" our crippled but actually alive mother as a mid-wife right after she thought her entire family was killed
>thats it, they hug it out and then go back their separate ways until the family reunion at the end of the comic
The story really was all over the fucking place, I don't know how it has such a cult following

>>57922477
>I don't know how it has such a cult following
Eevee fans have low standards

>>57923528
Who the hell names their kid that

>>57923557
I once knew a man named Carburetor.

>>57921842
This has to be a fetish artist

>>57923557
A bad parent

>>57923746
>Once you notice the way the maws and stomachs are drawn
It's always so funny when fetishfags can't hide their fetishes

>already finished gates
bleh
anyway i can see why it's the least popular in the series. Being able to only do one quest at a time really just makes upgrading paradise slow and the dungeons being repeating hallways make them a chore to go through, especially the longer ones, which is honestly a shame because imo it has the best cast of characters and the better story out of the pmds i played so far. I also really liked the partner in this game having a backstory and ambitions. Too bad there were barely any dialogue options to mess with them though
Now i only bothered patching the game to make the text speed 2x faster after i completed it and it makes everything so much better. leveling up fucking takes forever here that i consider this the optimal way to play it
spoilers ahead: I wonder, if this game came out one generation later would they have given the Voice of Life role to Xerneas? Well not literally because the twist wouldn't have worked but moreso have Hydreigon or another pokemon as one of their avatar before they "died"? this is literally just some speculating because they're pretty similar in concept but peraphs just having unexplainable forces of nature in the world makes it more mystic. what do you guys think?
The epilogue breaking the 4th wall was also kind of crazy and I didn't expect it
i do think it's worth playing (as long as you patch the text speed don't suffer like I did) if just for the story and characters
I'm also going to play the Wiiware games (Light Adventure Squad at least) after I finish playing Super, due to being Japan exclusive they're not talked about a lot even despite having gotten a translation not long ago. What's the consensus here aside from the models being dogshit
>>57921473
and then the game tries to set up Emolga and Virizion instead

>>57924657
maybe, but the reason why hydregion is is a very subtle reason that nobody ever mentions. the vol is the voice of everything in nature. him being a dragon is a personficiation of the so-called dragon energy that runs through the ley lines (which're referenced by name thanks to umbreon about the magnagates).
it sucks because even when you fully upgrade paradise the results aren't that great. the interaction in this game is peak though
>adventure squad
i hear it's hard as balls and awfully balanced but nothing much about it

>>57924657
>i do think it's worth playing (as long as you patch the text speed don't suffer like I did) if just for the story and characters
Just watch a walkthrough. You'll get the same experience. The gameplay is unbearable.

>>57924728
nah man the gameplay isn't unbearable, it is the weakest so far i'll agree with anyone who says that but it's closer to a "tech demo" type of way than "straight up unplayable"
as i've stated earlier it's really the one mission quota and long dungeons hallways that fuck shit up but in the perspective you're doing it just to complete the main story/epilogue it is 100% doable because they decided to lock the long dungeons in the post-game
it is absolutely a problem for full paradise completion. that would be insane. I just decided to build the music paradise and repaint my house before calling it quits
>>57924694
>it sucks because even when you fully upgrade paradise the results aren't that great.
exactly why I didn't go through with it too, upgrading paradise feels like a lot of work for not a lot of rewards
I like the concept but the execution just wasn't there. If this series ever gets another entry yea I wouldn't mind them revisiting the idea

>>57924657
>What's the consensus here aside from the models being dogshit
The gameplay is okay and many prefer it to Gates' gameplay at least.

Aside from the Japan-only part and being a Wiiware game, it also doesn't get talked about that much because there is not really anything to say about the """story""" since it is so short and dumb that I can write the entire plot in two lines without even summing it up that much.
Even if I wanted to rant about the story, there wouldn't be much to say.

>>57924657
>I wonder, if this game came out one generation later would they have given the Voice of Life role to Xerneas
Yeah, I wonder.

>>57924823
Anybody who says the gameplay isn't that bad quit immediately after finishing the post game quest. It is ungodly boring and repetitive, and that's going by PMD standards. A series people get filtered by for being repetitive

>>57925793
Is there any real point to playing after the postgame quest? I assume you can try to finish the dex and unlock special dungeons and stuff, but is it worth it?

>>57925875
I got all recruits for Gates and achieved max rank, and I can tell you, no, it's not really worth it unfortunately. Unlike the previous games there is literally no incentive at all to do any of the level reset dungeons (IIRC one of the only true level reset dungeons is exclusive to DLC for some reason.) There are no real completion rewards or anything cool that happens by getting lv100 mons or anything. As other anons in the thread have pointed out, Paradise is pretty half baked, and while it is useful to be able to farm infinite seeds and oran berries, and the minigames are kinda fun, there's not much point in using Paradise other than for that. I don't hate Gates or anything but the postgame and completion is a lot crappier than in the previous entries

>>57925875
I remember trying to do the level reset dungeons and I gave up very quickly. Think about how slow the text is in the game, and now think about how many painfully slow text boxes you need to sit through for a single level. Now multiply that by 4 for your whole team and you spend entire minutes at the start of an attempt simply waiting for

>HP went up by 1!
>Attack went up by 2!
>Defense went up by 1
>Special attack went up by 2!
>Special defense went up by 1!

And since it's a level reset dungeon, this happens to everybody in your party after a couple KO's when you start a run.

>>57926388
I want weapons in the next game

>>57927570
i hate how she continues drawing them closer to their real life animals.
it sucks because her story is peak besides but that art is so shit

>>57925690
dude i swear if you're implying i accidently spoiled myself i'm going to punchhhhhhhhhhhh
you

>>57927632
That Charmander looks fine to me, but there is something wrong with the Riolu

>>57927915
trust me, the rest of the characters they draw for that story look like the riolu. it's so bad

>>57927935
Can you post some? I don’t know the artist

>>57927998
they're literally teshadraws on tumblr. the sad part is the riolu (nia) used to look a lot cuter but then they just fucking spiralled. the art is thankfully palatable somewhat, but those furry-isms still pop up here and there
pic related is what those two characters used to look like, and the above picture you posted are their 'new designs'. i'll post examples in spoilers as they're 'character sheets' for lack of a better term since i don't know how many have actually read her fic (it's called seekers of soul on ao3 and it's really high up there in terms of popularity)

>>57928016
this one's probably the worst offender. always has to be fucking luxio

>>57928019
as an added bonus i'll give you the zoruas just to show how bad it can really get with her

>>57928021
it's not all bad though, this image is fairly cute and it's from one of the more recent chapters. she can create really good atmosphere with some of the more depressing scenes, she have a nice style for art for literally anything but pokemon. Especially those that are supposed to 'look' like certain domesticated animals that she thinks they're supposed to be drawn like because that's all her fanbase laps up repeatedly
i literally have to sit while these numbskulls place on a pedestal an 'eevee' you'd swear came out of someone's poorly traced photos from a different unrelated fic, but i only bring it up because she's attracted 'those' kinds of people thanks to this seemingly innocuous (to them) shit

>>57928028
>she have
she has*
fuck typos at this time at night.

captcha:AD0DA

>>57928029
and in case anyone wants to actually read her fic it's here at this link. On AO3, it has the most hits of any fic under the PMD fandom tag, called Seekers of Soul
https://archiveofourown.org/works/26908537
her art is on full display as there's usually one image at least per chapter with either a second to zoom in on the characters or some other reason. everything I'm saying about the art you can judge for yourself there. The story itself so far is really good but the art just brings it down a little with the aforementioned things that bring it down.

I make it sound like the worst thing in the world, it's not. It's certainly tolerable. There is and has been worse, but it's just tarnished in a way I don't see anyone else mention. Probably because the PMD fanfiction scene is practically a minefield of disingenuous folks who're difficult to sift through if you haven't been around

>>57928019
>mewing god luxio

>>57928253
picture taken moments before shinx trips over the berry and faceplants

>>57928021
WHAT IS WITH THAT DREAMWORKS-ASS YAMASK

>reading Shadows for Hire
>the Lucario and Weavile pair start having playful lewd banter with each other
>comic wasn't like this anywhere up to this point

I'll buy your entire stock.

>>57929362
Oh my~.

>>57929362
>>57929370
I will now read your comic

At least the artist makes cute ship art, even if the off-modelness can be offputting

>>57928016
I definitely prefer the proportions of the "new design" Charmander, at least based on these images. His legs look way too short in your pic. Riolu's face is more tolerable in your pic though.

>>57928019
>>57928021
I hate it

>>57928028
This is a really cool style

It has been a hot while since I've written anything major involving these two.

This was originally supposed to be a short story that spiraled out of control alongside my own life (I started on this in November of last year) and had since been integrated as a chapter, or rather a collective of 7 segments that constitute a volume of events that I somehow consolidate as a single chapter. What the hell is formatting.

Please read at your own pace my nearly 18k word yarn that continues the mysterious and admittedly disjointed and strange narrative that I have construed.

I give to you...

>Team Fangclaw in National Dex Pokegraphic Chapter 3: Sacred Spirit Vigil
(https://rentry.org/zangoosechapter3)

>>57930409
New Team Fangclaw? And on Pride Month? Hell yeah
>secretive ex-criminal partner’s estranged father is a self-styled tyrant from the sand continent whose interest in their wayward child places the guild in danger
Now that’s a funny coincidence

>>57929534
tobias (the charmander) is usually fine. it's just all the cat faces that really give it away for anything that isn't him.
she does make good ship art. and a good ship story. it's just really unfortunate how it turns out half the time

>>57930409
holy peak

>>57930409
Mustel is not beating the allegations today.
Good story, anon.

>>57931821
That Zangoose is certainly beating something.

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>>57875437 (OP)
I wish i would be held by Dusknoir.
Grovyle is so lucky...

Part 2 finished
https://rentry.org/moonshinefamily

Dare I initiate this conversation

>>57929362
Orchid calling Asche "husband" completely threw me off NGL.

>>57935930
Man I don't even recognize that bird guy.

>>57935091
Nice work, anon.
Adrian seems to be projecting a little bit.

>>57935971
It’s Swanna, and she’s female

>>57936208
Damn, Gen V, I should have known that one.

>>57875454
can one save before boss fights and just restart if they didnt want to join?

my capim town house is the one on the left

>>57936550
What fuckin moron voted this guy into office?

>>57936853
The jolliness and whimsicality party won the election with a 20 point lead.

>>57936772
Sneasel spotted?

>>57931972
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>>57930409
Keep it up fellow noodle-pounders.

>>57875454
I can't post it here because its a pedofur comic, have the next best thing I can think of.

>>57937618
Excuse me?

>>57937618
>pmd pedofur comic

>>57937618
You fuckers piss me off

>>57937562
>noodle-pounder
I'll have you know that the noodle pounds me.

>>57937191
I doubt it

how sensical is this oc's outfit?

>>57939039
Is a bridle necessary if you can just talk to your mount and tell him what to do?

>>57939097
It's. My. FETISH.

>>57939097
It is if its so mentally unstable that you can't trust it with anything.

>>57939097
Yes. Imagine trying to yell out commands in the middle of a fight.

>>57939097
He's autistic and needs guidance

>>57939212
I mean, that works perfectly fine for Pokemon Trainers

>>57939039
No self respecting horsemon would put on a bridle or a saddle
>>57939097
This is extra weird for a G. Ponyta, a psychic type that can read your goddamn mind

>>57940372
Okay but what if he's your passenger?

>>57940637
Buy a pouch of Magic Powder off of a Hatterene.
Alternatively, a Ring Target

>>57940372
You’re mixing up your your human notions with what’s normal for pokemon. It’s a perfectly valid area of work. Now pull the fucking cart

>>57940702
Nothing wrong with pulling the cart, but you can just tell him where you need to go. You don't direct your cabbie with a bridle, you just give him the address.

My headcanon is that Explorers takes place after Gates and this is the same Dunsparce. Otherwise it's kinda weird that a Dunsparce being horny is a recurring thing.

>>57940734
I think this might be because it vaguely resembles a balding old man? Oshawott gets the same treatment in some japanese works I've seen.

>>57940734
Well my headcanon is that every Dunsparce is just naturally horny

>>57940372
If a horsemon is going to give someone a ride, I think a saddle would make it more comfortable for both parties

>>57940734
>literal meme mon made to be a meme from its very first design
>ummm it's kinda weird that Dunsparce is also a meme in pmd
he's a fat ugly bastard

Cloaca.

>>57942130
I barely know 'a!

>>57888271
shame the author went schizo, her work was nice

>>57942245
Went schizo? I thought they were just on academic hiatus?

>>57942251
yeah, she came back a few days ago to announce that she'd been in a psychiatric ward for half a year and was hearing voices in her head

https://www.deviantart.com/teeterglance/journal/still-alive-but-I-m-barely-breathin-1206686888

I don't think you can really recover from that

>>57942271
Ah, damn. That's a shame.

>>57942271
>aro-ace people
Every day there's some new lingo that eludes me.

>>57942271
Sounds like she’s still nuts
That sucks

>>57942347
anon you can't cure schizophrenia of course she's still nuts

>>57942426
This website is full retarded anons. Did you really expect them to know?

>>57942426
I figured there must be some way to reduce it or control it, at least

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