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What is Pokémon Sleep?
Pokémon Sleep is a sleep tracking app that utilizes your smartphone and/or the Pokémon Go Plus + device to record data as you sleep. In doing so, you'll be able to meet a variety of Pokémon and fill out your Sleep Style Dex.

Be sure to post your Research ID so that you can add and share candy with fellow Anons. We are currently locked at 50 friends.

FAQ:
>How do Shinies work?
If you encounter a shiny Pokémon, you only need to feed it a single Poké Biscuit to befriend it.
>What should I spend my diamonds on?
Expanding your ingredient pockets, item pockets and Pokémon box. Long term you’ll want to max out ingredient pockets, only get half of max for items and max 100 for Pokémon.
>When should I use my items?
When you have a good grasp of the game mechanics. You may want to save up Recovery Incenses for event missions.
>What should I spend my sleep points on?
Poké Biscuits first or if you’re a premium user: Main and Subskill seeds and Great Biscuits.
>Can I play this game if there's a lot of noise where I sleep?
The game tracks sleep based on motion only; sound has no impact.
>A Pokémon I fed got full! Will I have to start from scratch the next time I find one?
Nope! Pokémon retain the level of progress they were at the last time you fed them.
>How do dream clusters work?
The higher your research rank, the more you get. You may want to hold onto them as long as possible.

>Official Pages
https://www.pokemon.com/us/app/pokemon-sleep/
https://www.pokemonsleep.net/en/news/
>Unofficial Pokémon Sleep Wiki
[WARNING] Turbo Cancer-ridden with ads. Use at own risk.
https://pks.raenonx.cc/en
>Simple Candy Calculator
https://candy.blspnm.com

**For safety, back up your account by linking it to Google or your Apple ID. Or at least copy your Support ID from the Pokémon Sleep launch screen (click to reveal Support ID under menu)**

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ME GET X11 EXTRA HELPFUL PROC ME HELPFUL

>>57886931
To anyone saying helping speed is better than ingredient finder on ingredient mons see above

im not the usual baker for this thread, should nerolislab be added to the OP next time?

>>57886962
Lately my mono-Vikavolt with Ing. Finder M + nature has been lacking on coffee gathering duties. I'm hoping it picks up when it hits 60.

My Bewear by comparison, that only has an ingredient finding nature, never lets me down for corn. It won't even get ingredient finder until level 100.

Where should I go for ingredient week tomorrow?
Haven’t hit master 20 on any yet but don’t. Know how hard I’ve tried. Never berry bombed or ingredient hoarded until last week
I was able to get to master 9 just by feeding snorlax bare minimum on Greengrass so should I head there?
I do wonder in case I’ll be too efficient and waste potential that could have helped one of the harder islands.

>>57886986
Nerloislab's UI is still a little clunky and doesn't output all of the same information, but if there's space it's a good alternative.

Did the new update nerf pot size increase skills? Usually skills like Magnezone's are doubled on Sundays

very small raikou bonus to start the week. definitely not worth doing without a healer (or a better raikou (unlikely to get one though))
>>57873933

>>57887866
I was thinking Taupe, but unsure if both woopers are boosted.

Mawile turns out to be an ingredient specialist, mono oil (with corn and tomatoes)

Truly the green grass salad mon

>>57887866
Just look at what's boosted where, and what you want.
You can probably do a rough calculation of the added cooking per and see if you'll reach M20, otherwise I'd go somewhere with Mawile or at least somewhere that the legendary dogs spawn to get some extra research EXP/shards. Also the difference between Master 9 and Master 20 is huge no matter where you go, so you might want to consider that. Not to mention random berries can throw a wrench into your plans. Your bulk power will come from cooking, but berries are still a considerable chunk.

>>57888226
Sunday's pot-doubling always only worked on your base pot. Everything else is and always has been additive.

>>57888602
I'm pretty sure the Wooper boost is only for water Wooper. They usually make a point to specify Alolan or Paldean, so I assume it would be the same for this.

>rolled curries
Damn, if my ABB Vikavolt and AAC Luxray were lv60 I would be able to make HP Stew all week...
I'll try doing that anyway as I don't have an optimal setup for Keemas

>Rolled desserts on Cyan Beach
That bodes fantastically well for hitting Master 20.
Forgot I can't encounter Mawile here though, never mind.

GCT + event bonus means my cooking pot size is 165, so my Vaporeon and Blastoise are gonna need to work extra hard.

>>57888619
>mawhile is an oil pokemon
FUCK I really didn't want to search for another single stage but toxicroak is shit
how much better is mawile?

>>57889351
Lame. Chocolate wooper is so much better, I need a cocoa farmer.

>>57889794
For raw ingredient gathering at base performance, Mawile is actually slightly worse than Croagunk or even an A/B/B Luxray.
Though that's ignoring that its main skill gathers a fixed number of one kind of ingredient, from a pool of oil, potatoes, tomatoes, or corn. It's skill trigger rate is expected to proc around twice a day.

Whilst it's slightly faster than Toxicroak, it's ingredient finding rate is slightly lower, and the strength of steel berries versus poison berries doesn't compensate much.

Sadly, Mawile doesn't look poised to shake up the meta, or add much to OGPP where you're more likely to run a full electric team, and already had Luxray. They did Mawile dirty.

>>57889794
>>57890285
Here's how they look at maximum ingredient gathering, no favorite berries, no helping bonus.
Raenonx's calculator isn't accounting for Hyper Cutter yet, but being able to get an estimated extra +36 to +72 ingredients per day is likely to give Mawile an advantage, if you're willing to give it main skill seeds. Probably not the best use honestly.

>>57890285
>>57890305
Thanks for the breakdown. That's good for me since I didn't want to hunt for a single stage, but bad for people who really like Mawile.
Hopefully they buff it like they buffed Comfey.

Who's the best potato mon?

>>57890536
Look at >>57890285, top 3 ingredient specialists at level 60 for all ingredients.

It's Meowscarada, which is the only mono-potato ingredient specialist in the game.

So Raenonx has this pokemon sniper tool, which tells you how much drowsy power you should aim for to maximize the chances of getting a specific mon. The tool is useful to help you decide if you should do naps and stuff, since increasing your snorlax strength too much can actually end up making you find only more expensive mons/evolved forms.
But that shit is premium only, am I'm not about to spend money for it, does neroli's lab have a function like that? Any other ideas? I'm trying to get more Murkrows.

>>57890285
Pretty big shame given that Oil still doesn't have a gatherer capable of gathering comparable quantities of Potatoes and hardly even matches Cacao/Coffee despite the point difference. Toxicroak and Mawile could use a bump since Luxray is already a top Tomato producer.

Also here are the ingredients Mawile can get from its skill, basically adding Potatoes.

Man, I really feel like skill specialists should be even better than they are now, since it's so damn expensive to make one.
I have a Brave Riolu with Skill Trigger M and S, and I'd love to get him maxed out to get some dream shards, but I just cannot afford the Main Skill Seeds when I already spent a lot of them into a Gardevoir and Ampharos, and I also still want to invest in others like a really good Espeon I have and a Murkrow/Mimikyu, should I get a really good one.

I got Extra Tasty on both breakfast and lunch today. I didn't see there being an increased likelihood on the event so maybe I just got a little lucky in this regard.

need some new friends, have 3 slots open

>>57891563
if i had updated my spreadsheet recently i could tell you, but chances are it's just whatever power level murkrow 3 star is on the relevant map while forcing the correct style of sleep

>>57891715
The whole point of skill specialists is that they can reach their peak a lot earlier than the other types. It's just balancing the resources you need to invest to achieve the power you desire. But if you really want to go in on skill types, you pretty much need to have the premium pass at least (for access to the premium shop).

So this is a top larvitar right?

>>57892915
no
>no bfs
>no helping bonus
>speed down
>no helping speed

How helpful is it to get energy over 100% before you go to sleep? Am I wasting my time by keeping my e4e mon on all day, or am I getting better returns by maxing out their energy instead of having a 5th stronger mon?

>>57892976
Keeping 4 helpers at peak efficiency, is better than having 5 helpers that can't maintain peak efficiency.

Helpers maintain peak efficiency as long as their energy stays above 80%, energy drops at 1% every 10 minutes, so being at 150% energy means they maintain peak efficiency for 700 minutes (over 11.5 hours).
It's very helpful for sleep sessions because it greatly increases the sneaky snacking gains, and the chances of having a skill trigger ready, or the quantities of ingredients gathered for those with inventory upgrades.

Having an E4E helper is so important that it usually outweighs going for a mono-helper boost team.

>>57893045
Alright so if I sleep for 9ish hours every day, anything over 135ish percent energy is probably overkill?

>>57893060
135% energy would maintain peak energy for 550 minutes, so yeah it'd be overkill.
That said there's no guarantee you'll routinely get that kind of energy at bed time, and it's less likely if you're occasionally swapping out any of the helpers as it seems to impact the reliability of skill triggers.

If you know your helpers are at around 135% energy you can refrain from interacting with your E4E helper before bedtime, to help ensure they have a skill trigger ready by morning when the top-up will be more beneficial.

>Mawile full after 2 biscuits
yeah, no, I'm not doing this again

I definitely should have gone somewhere besides power plant this week. This pot size is basically forcing 5 ingredient mons.

>>57893573
Just get a Vaporeon, dude. 36x ingredients each time it triggers that I keep having to dump a bunch to make sure I have enough of the right ones.

>Master 15 at Cyan Beach by Tuesday dinner
I'm on pace to overshoot Master 20, dayum.

>>57893954
I went to Lapis and I'm just over pace for M20. Éclairs consistently and a Dedenne over night in hopes for a double proc in the morning. If I average one crit a day I will hit M20 and that's without the Sunday boost in my calcs.

7830-3857-1731

Need one (1) friend, sirs!

Got a shiny Grubbin. Poison island when?

>>57895473
>Double skill trigger and not-the-worst nature
Nice. Time to rake in those shards.

Not bad for bedtime for day 2 on OGGP I think...

>>57895686
Wtf I just hit master 1

Farfetch'd added for new event

>Appearing Beginning
Jun. 23, 2025, at 3:00 p.m.
Note: Pokémon Incense for the new arrival can be used starting from the date and time above.

>Appearing at
Greengrass Isle, Cyan Beach, and Old Gold Power Plant

>Sleep Type
Farfetch’d: Slumbering

>>57895796
Who on earth asked for this?

Event: Summer Festival 2025

>Outline

This summery week-long event will feature greater appearance rates for Water-, Flying-, and Bug-type Pokémon!

To commemorate this event, one new Curry/Stew recipe will be added around Jun. 18, 2025, at 20:00 p.m.!

You’ll also be able to use the limited-time Candy Cram-o-matic function!

Event/Mission Period:
• Jun. 23 (Mon) at 4:00 a.m. to Jun. 30 (Mon) at 3:59 a.m.

Event Areas:
• All areas

>Bonuses

The following effects will trigger in the applicable areas during this event.

— All Days —
• Dishes will be set to “Curries/Stews”.
• Final Strength gains from dishes will be multiplied by 1.5 (or 3 for Extra Tasty dishes or 4.5 for Extra Tasty dishes on Sunday only).
• A few Pokémon of different sleep types will appear during sleep research regardless of your sleep type for that day.
• Certain Pokémon will be more likely to appear during sleep research.
• You may meet certain Shiny Pokémon!
• The limited-time Candy Cram-o-matic function will be available.

>Greater Appearance Rates

The following Pokémon are more likely to appear during this event!

Greater Appearance Rate
Farfetch’d.

Slightly Greater Appearance Rate
Squirtle, Caterpie, Psyduck, Slowpoke,
Doduo, Pinsir, Totodile, Wooper,
Heracross, Delibird, Swablu, Rufflet,
Grubbin, Cramorant, and Quaxly.

>>57895803
Makes me question even more why Chocolate Wooper wasn't boosted for the current one. Oh well, I'll probably just go to OGPP to try to get a Grubbin.

>Taupe
Le mao

>>57895842
they should add shuckle as a rock berry specialist for taupe. it only makes too much sense

>>57895803
It's gonna have Leeks in slot 1 right?

Right?

>>57895886
it'll be the C ingredient

>>57895796
Nice, but wake me up when Sirfetch'd is added.

>>57895799
People who don't like Quaquaval.
Inb4 it is a berry/skill specialist

>>57895886
I'm imagining a berry type that's actually kinda slow with a low ingredient rate to balance out having such a high base ingredient power. Though I'll be damned if it's another ingredient type, as we already have 2 single-stage, Flying, ingredient types. Don't really know what skill it would have if it were a skill type.

>>57895967
So fucking weird how Annihilape and Sirfetch'd gets cucked in this game.

>>57896278
Sirfetch'd requires a Galar Farfetch'd. Still dripfeeding updates, so probably we have this somewhere in the future.
Annihilape is not understandable since we also got some Paldea Pokémon already. If this gets added as one of the update Pokémon, I'll probably be disgruntled.

>>57896295
That's right but we don't need the Kantonian to get a Galarian. We're getting a lot of 16 pip mons now and it will probably only have mono Leaks going for it and nothing else.

>>57895799
Farfetch'd was a foregone conclusion from the beginning, with leeks being an ingredient.
There's no doubt it'll be the first, and maybe only mono-leek helper, and I'd be very surprised if it's not an ingredient specialist.
It'll be curious to see what main skill it gets.

>>57895982
The arguments for it being mono-leek ingredient specialist are stronger IMO, much like how Sprigatito and Wooper filled gaps for mono-potato and mono-mushroom.
Although it not being an ingredient specialist, I do see the possibility given the strength of leeks.
Ingredient counts are kind of arbitrary anyway, like some berry specialists having surprisingly high ingredient counts for the B and C slots (Meganium, Houndoom).

>>57895850
Shuckle would probably have a painfully slow helping frequency, but berry specialist is literally its whole deal.
it could, also potentially have a very unique main skill or even an ingredient built around its whole juice gimmick.

>>57896403
>has a drink/dessert specific main skill

random free shit in your gift box for reasons not in the game

>>57896411
English is slow, it's to celebrate 1 billion sleepers

please... for the love of god... introduce some more grass types PLEASE
>lilligant
>vileplume
>leavanny
>Roserade
>Whimsicott
>Arboliva
>Applin line
>Lurantis
please, there's so many...

Always nice to not have to spend so many nights feeding a level 1 friendship

>>57896403
Ingredient counts do very much follow a base x multiplier formula, with Marowak being the most notable outlier. For skill and berry types, it's loosely 1x/2x(or 2.5x)/4x, based on the base ingredient. For ingredient types, that goes to 2x/5x/7x. Using base values is just an easy way to balance the Pokemon because it doesn't matter which ingredients they get, so long as they follow that rule.

>>57896827
I forgot we has boosted shiny rates. It was shit, of course.

Remember when they buffed altaria and Butterfree last update? Dodrio also got buffed. Now altaria and Butterfree make sense for the final upcoming island, but why did dodrio get buffed?

It's so that it can compete with farfetch'd, the new berry farmer

>hungry mawile
>ingredient up nature
>great subskills
>oil, CORN, CORN
why? Why??

Holy shit dude, my Gardevoir has only activated ONCE today during the entire day. All my mons are fucking dying even with the boosted stamina from the meals.

>>57898597

All my activations today were at an all time low as well. Especially after Mon/Tues.

Dang, mine wasn’t proccing at all the past 2 weeks but this week she’s going like a dynamo

Sometimes my Gardevoir doesn't feel like doing her job as well. It seems to trigger regularly as opposed to you.

Except today, in all excitement of getting a decent Mawile I switched out one of my Pokémon before activating all skills.

>>57898597
It's all luck, and I hate when that happens, but momentum seems to be a thing.
Staying above 100% in the first place seems to help skill triggers happen more often, as well as avoiding swapping out helpers.
Though that said, I swapped out my Wigglytuff for my Dedenne last night, the Dedenne proc'd twice overnight and the Wigglytuff after being swapped in has proc'd thrice.
So, yeah all luck really.

This might be the event buff talking, but if you can spare the main skill seeds, Honchkrow is actually pretty damn good.

>>57900066
Actually doesn't the event boost also multiply Honchkrow's shard gains since it doesn't specify ingredients-only?
Also yes, 1.5x is a huge boost even though I'd call the skill unreliable at best. Not only do you have to catch a trigger, but you roll for any of the given ingredients. In terms of general ingredient quantities, it loses out to regular Ingredient Magnet S.

Well that was worth having to skip a meal because those stupid cat and bird didn’t give me the potatoes in time

>>57900304
honestly I don't get why they put bean sausage in the pool, it's not like a chance to roll coffee, beans or mushrooms is broken

Currently at master 17 on ogpp with Thursday dinner to cook, been obscenely lucky with near 50% crit rate on meals

Anyone know if berry finding s or helping bonus by themselves add more strength overall?

My kingdom for an electric, ghost or steel type ingredient magnet pokemon

>>57901521
A 5% team bonus is usually worth more than an individual Pokemon's 30-40% increase from berries. That said, helping speed caps out at 35%, and a team full of BFS likely beats out a team full of Helping Bonus.

>>57901400
Nobody cares, cheater.

>>57901728
Nice, thabks

Tragic lvl 50 skill

>>57901847
More tragic is the lack of BFS. Ingredient Finder S really isn't that much of a negative effect for most berry Pokemon. More it's just a waste of a skill slot.

>>57901711
Steelix.

This morning was disappointment, followed by great success.
That's apples sorted, and thank goodness for the recent inventory change to already evolved Pokémon.
I already have a max ingredient rate ABA Absol, but that can deliver a strong mixture of apples and cacao when it hits 60 so both remain useful.

Worth going to Cyan Beach for that alone. I should be hitting Master 20 today, too.

Just got my girl to 60, I love her.

>>57903391
That's a beaut.

Yyyyuck
Also I didn't see any Cleffas or even any of the line this time around... Also only 1 Mawile spotted so far too.

Around what level will my pokemon need to be to get Master 3 at power plant? I have a Pawmot at 3500RP with maxed out E4E, a level 30 Raichu with BFS and a 30 Gengar with ingredient nature and skill. The rest of my type relevant pokemon aren't good yet. I have a Flaffy that I can power up since it has Skill boost nature and skill but I don't want to water the resources if I'm still going to be short. They way I'm calculating I'll be 3k short of the recommended 15k RP for the team but I don't know if those mean anything.

>>57904152
To hit master 3 at OGPP, you need to reach 1.29m strength.
The three helpers you've described sound like they might contribute around 500k strength by themselves.
Boost them to 50, and they approach 700k.
That's only going on a cursory Raenonx team analysis with little info though, and a lot of strength comes from ingredients that cannot account for your recipe levels.

The RP your Pokémon have is only a ballpark figure for how useful they are, things like main skill levels can influence it very heavily, but things that do not contribute to strength gains (directly or indirectly) like Research EXP Bonus also inflate RP, because they're gold skills.
E4E healers can reach very high RP figures, but are entirely in the service of making sure the rest of your team operates at peak performance.

Having a really good Ampharos is a good investment, if you luck out with a maximum skill trigger rate one worth pumping full of main skill seeds.
Charge Strength M skill specialists (or Golduck as the super-frequent Charge Strength S user) thrive on any map regardless of their berries, though Ampharos has an advantage at OGPP.

In practice, if you went to OGPP next week, you'd be running your Pawmot, Raichu, Gengar, and whatever your next two strongest berry specialists are.
The sheer level can compensate for the lack of favorite berries, but a level 30 favorites helper beats out a level 50 non-favorites helper.
Going to OGPP itself helps you build a better OGPP team anyway. You'll be able to find stuff like Dedenne, Shinx, Aron, Steelix, and also get more candies to power up your existing team.
Notably, you can also find the Grubbin line, which is your coffee farmer and vital to cooking up some of the best dishes in the game like the Clodsire Éclair or the Hidden Power Perk-Up Stew.

>>57904286
Thanks, I'll give it a shot next week

I feel like I haven't caught a single usable mon in a month

>>57904527
same. or I'll catch something with an absolutely gorgeous spread if it wasn't on that specific pokemon.

>>57904527
that final naive grubbin is actually pretty good

>>57901794
Nah, just sandbagging a dead week for a lot of prep, only another million strength with 7 meals left

>>57904691
jesus christ. I don't think I'm getting to m20 on greengrass of all places without some sunday crits.

>>57904691
>nah, just cheated
Okay then.

>>57904738
Which food do you have? I'm managing to run curries, swapping between Hidden Power Stew and Keema Curry when I don't have enough of the right ingredients. 100k+ every meal.

Hilariously unnecessary crit, I already hit Master 20 shortly after lunch.

>>57904803
Salads, Ghost/Flying/Electric berries. I've been spamming Defiant Coffee for 90k a pop, but I just found out that I could've been making either Apple Acid Yogurt or Petal Blizzard Layered this whole time, I'd just never unlocked them before.

>>57904756
Berry bombing to get a head start on an important week makes sense, anon's gonna hit M20 on OGPP thanks to that.
If they're running Dedenne, which synergizes with OGPP, yeah they should expect to get several extra tasty meals during the week.

They're doing way better than my M20 run at Cyan Beach too, this is what I'm running.
Vaporeon and Blastoise have done great, they've really kept on top of ingredients and I've seldom needed to substitute my Wiggly to make up a specific ingredient. I rolled desserts, which is ideal for Cyan Beach.
Meanwhile Suicune and Feraligatr have been brute forcing a lot of berry strength.

>>57904738
You're rank 62 but are struggling to hit M20 on GG?
The goal is 3.24m, but did you just get a bad roll on berries and meals? Did you use a GCT?
Never forget that you can use an E-Zzz ticket to reroll if GG goes very badly.

That connects to my thoughts about expert mode. I'm very well equipped for Cyan Beach as the whole team is favorite berries, so it'll probably be the easiest starting point for expert mode due to the randomness of GG, and how expert mode inherently punishes skill and ingredient specialists.

>>57904846
>but did you just get a bad roll on berries and meals?
>>57904824
I don't have good ghost or flying options, I rerolled with all 4 of my E-Zzz Tickets because I kept getting at least one of poison/flying/dark/dragon
>Did you use a GCT?
no

>>57904846
Yeah first thing I did was I filled my ingredients bag with enough ingredients to make eclairs for a few days, then started a berry bomb with the Raikou team, averaged one crit per day and ran the full berry team the first few days

>>57904858
That's a lot of rerolls for not committing to a GCT.
Also were you rerolling for a perfect spread or because you really lacked any viable options?

>>57904905
A strong head start indeed, with multiple Eclairs banked.
Did you need to reroll meals to make that happen? I lucked out with desserts this week, in spite of having desserts last week.

>>57904948
It did cost me the only 2 ez travel tickets I had banked to get desserts, I had diamonds to spare if necessary but thankfully they weren't needed

I just hope a legend event isn't coming up soon, I only have 1 GCT left and that's 100% going towards the curry event where I'll be going for my final m20 on lapis.

>>57904948
Because I lacked viable options. I don't have any worthwhile poison, dragon, dark, or flying types, I would've been fine with just about anything other than normal but the game just hated me. I figured any one of Electric, Water, Psychic or Grass, or better yet a combination would've given me the edge I needed.

>>57905047
The cooking bonuses are so strong that you wouldn't really need to care about berries all that much. I'm on OGPP with Pokemon that aren't particularly suited for the area, so probably close to 2/3 of my power is just from cooking.

>>57904691
Is this the power of extra tasty? I'm on OGPP and I've cooked 100% Clodesire Eclairs (which give me around 163k each) and yet I'm still only at like 4m strength.
I've only gotten 2 crits so far, since my only Dedenne is kinda shit, but I'm considering swapping it in regardless.

>>57905375
Yeah, having a good dedenne that can give you a lot of triggers for extra tasty during these meal boosted events is essential to hitting master 20 on these harder islands. Can 100% guarantee I wouldn't have come close without it. Out of my 14 meals cooked so far, 6 of those have cooked. Those crits alone contributed at least 1 million score alone.

I was very lucky to find this as my 10th dedenne with the guaranteed gold subskill

>>57905388
Running Dedenne can lead to an ingredient deficit so you need a good stockpile or ingredient tickets to help you along.
At least, for ingredient heavy events like this week.

The cooking pot is going to be enormous tomorrow, oof.

So close to being usable

>>57906716
Anon that's perfectly usable, Mawile is an ingredient mon, not a skill mon. The only potential problem would be its ingredient slots.

>>57906727
A, B, C.

>>57906763
Welp.

Looks like they settled on Mawile's individual Hyper Cutter picks. You could assume that the distribution of each 18x vs 36x tier is roughly the same though, rather than having them skewed. Also Mawile's ultimate loadout may be the the most balanced so far, wanting both Skill Trigger and Ingredient Finder depending on your priorities and having max skill level. This skill having 7 levels if a bit underwhelming though, mostly due to its activation rate not being high enough to really focus on it.

Alright. Less than 1M to reach M20 at Lapis for the first time and second time total. If dinner doesn't crit Éclair will give me 180k and I keep extra tasty chance + morning proc for tomorrow when crits matters more.

>>57907645
Incoming 0 crits.

>>57907645
You can do it anon, and remember you can use helper whistles as a desperate measure at the 11th hour.

>>57907878
>>57907932
I'm 805k short right now with extra tasty +18% so basically it's three coin flips if I would bench Dedenne now. No harm in having it stay active and pump those numbers up. All I need is one sunday crit and I'm set, unless my team just decides to not pick up any ingredients.

I'm getting so close to honey being a lot less of an issue... eventually my chansey will be the same way, making everything so nice.
Now I just need a real fix for milk and cocoa. My blastoise sucks at gathering either with any real potency and he gets worse at 60 with fucking sausages anyways.

im gonna do it

>>57908636
How the fuck do some of you have so many shards?

>>57908650
because by the time you get a single pokemon worth leveling up, you've picked up hundreds of thousands of the shits.

>>57908664
>>57908650
I suppose they'll stack up if you never use them on anything. I've used most of the Cram-o-matics and Candy Boosts and I'm at about half of that.

Also everybody been using their event boosts? I finally got a decent enough Cyndaquil, so I've been boosting it, plus whatever candies I had for Darkrai.

>>57908650
just wait until I cash out my dream shards, thats not even all of it yet

>>57908941
I usually forget to do them so I've been making an effort to do it this time, mostly on mons that I have almost no candy of but who I need to level, such as my HSM/IFM mono Honey Pinsir and my HB/BFS Houndoom.

?

Totally unnecessary, but spectacular.

Does boost my recipe level though.

>>57910153
Blissey's not an especially fast helper (same tier as Vaporeon) so its focus really should be eggs and ingredient finder, not berries.
Although normal (persim) berries are pretty decent in strength.

The Eevee with HB+BFS I would consider as a Jolteon, Flareon, or Vaporeon, as part of a Raikou, Entei, Suicune Helper Boost team. I wouldn't give it main skill seeds though, considering it has zero skill trigger boosts.

Shiny Eevee wants a nature mint badly. It would be a perfect Espeon with a Careful mint, I hope they add them someday.

PLEASE give us mints, I'm begging you.

Well, well, well. I didn't think the pot even worked above 200, but I guess that's just the limit for the Cooking Pot S skill.

3 dishes to reach M20

Whew.

I won’t be beating that record for a long ass time, lol

>>57910776
>I won’t be beating that record for a long ass time, lol

On the contrary, this was only part 1 of the Packed Portions event.

This could be a periodic event like "growth week".

Not as big as my BIG MEAT but still pretty big.

Back to back crits got me my m20 with ease.

We won bros.

With M20 on Lapis now I got my third Skill Seed this month. Sleep points, gift from devs and now this. That's huge as I'm F2P.

Final score, 6.6m, nearly 2.9m more than the Cyan Beach M20 requirement.

Maybe now I can get one of the Slowking sleep styles I'm missing? Maybe a Suicune?
I got very little in the way of actual new sleep styles despite enormous Drowsy Power.

Free from Master 20 OGPP.

Well, after capping out on ingredients, I’m gonna be left with an empty bag after these Sunday meals.

>>57911490
Yeah, I'm down to 70 ingredients, but it helped gain ingredient levels on my Zing Zap Colas.
Next week is just gonna be taking it easy at OGPP or maybe Lapis Lakeside, and letting my ingredients build back up.

I'll also hit 75% area bonus on all 6 maps, CB was already at 75% and the overflow will go to Snowdrop Tundra which was at 73%.

Hit master 20 on OGPP yesterday night, 20% crit pushed me over the guaranteed edge, so I've been taking advantage of the +1 ingredient drops to farm mushrooms for my curry event master 20 attempt on lapis, as well as farming leeks since it's highly likely that the new dish will use leeks if they're giving us farfetch'd alongside it, like how apple acid and eclairs used eggs and cocoa beforehand

>>57911489
>>57911534
Piss off

Speedy but no ingredient finder or skill up, worthless?

I hit 19 on old gold with no chance of hitting 20 at this point, should I just save ingredients and not make dinner?

>>57911894
You're sure you can't hit 20 even with a crit and helper whistles?

>>57911923
Yeah I’d need over a million and I already missed my breakfast crit with all my slowpoke tails

>>57911879
Yup, you want Ingredient Finder M at minimum for any ingredient type except Dragonite basically. Skill Trigger would be secondary or even tertiary, because it would still require 6 Main Skill Seeds. Besides that, there are much better options for Corn.

These are some hella disappointing spawns for 661m DP.
24k research EXP with a 45% bonus in effect, but whatever.

I'll have to spend a few subskill seeds, but I think this is the best I'm gonna get

ive been playing for 700 nights and still havent got to m20 on any map i have no idea what im doing wrong

>>57913017
Upgrading Skill Trigger S to M would have a negligible effect, since its base skill trigger rate is like 4%. It'll go from 2.5 skill procs per day to around 2.8 procs.

Inventory Up M or L would be worthwhile though, but it's going to take a long ass time to hit level 50.
Did it get a good ingredient spread?

>>57913103
You're definitely playing the game wrong, you should be making it to 20 on green grass once in a while by now. What pokemon are you using?
>>57913109
it got oil, oil, corn which is good enough for me.

>>57913226
this is what im going for this week on greengrass

>>57913234
>level 34 e4er
That might be it. Does your garde keep everyone above 100%?

>>57913234
How do you even make meals with that

>this is the best thing to come out of my boosted week
>and it came from an incense

>>57913234
>>57913238
Gardevoir is never a good individual contributor power-wise; everything comes from it keeping your Pokemon at max gathering bonus for the whole day. The real culprit is Raikou. It barely does anything unless you're running a full team of electric Pokemon, and even then it's usually not worth more than another on-type Pokemon unless your Raikou is actually top tier. And even with a great berry party, you do still need to make at least decent meals at every opportunity.

>>57913342
>>57913261
i think i might been making fancy apple curry for 2 years straight

according to the calculator the only thing that gets to 2kk instead of raikou is another e4e or cresselia

>>57913382
Making it to M20 on GG outside of event weeks needs either a Good Camp Ticket or an extremely well put together team and a good roll on berries+meals.
3.2m strength is a difficult figure to hit on a casual week, but can be done on the maps where you know exactly what berries are needed with a 60+ team.

If you're literally only making the weakest meals every day and going for a full berry strength strategy, you put yourself at a big disadvantage for cooking focused events like last weeks by having no strong recipe levels.

You shouldn't need two E4E users under any circumstances, and you're not allowed to run both Raikou and Cresselia due to the one special Pokémon rule.

Have you neglected to unlock ingredients? Walrein's main skill can help pull in ingredients to make better dishes, and the newer recipes that get added over time combined with gradually bigger cooking pot sizes, will be a major factor in your weekly performance.

>>57913382
Cooking even just decent meals easily gets you 1 million Snorlax strength. I think my usual breakdown is about... 1.6-1.8 from berries, then another million and change from cooking. You can get higher, depending on cooking crits and the ability to consistently cook the highest value recipes (which require Cooking Power Up S skills or a Good Camp Ticket).

I keep getting the single stages shiny, but for what it is, it ain't bad.

Guesses for the new curry being introduced next week?
I'm guessing:
>leeks
>oil
>fiery herb
>ginger

>>57914842
>leeks while they're still annoying to get

I sure saw a lot of Murkrows.

>>57915055
Lots of Pokemon have access to Leeks at 60. Or get a Quaquaval.

>>57915130
>at 60
And Quaquaval fucking stinks at getting leaks.

Guys look how good my ingredient finders are :)

>>57915151
Quaquaval is actually pretty good at getting Leeks. You just won't get flooded by them since they're so worth so much. And I still wouldn't expect a Leek-only ingredient Pokemon to get many more than Quaquaval already does.

I wish we could do something with shinies. having multiple really shitty copies of the entire geodude and caterpie lines is really bothering me.

>>57915055
I really doubt they're introducing THE leek pokemon, during a curry event, with a new curry, just for them not to use leeks
>>57915764
releasing shinies should give you triple candy, then getting shitty shinies you don't want would sting a little less

>>57915908
Just to recap, the new curry/stew recipe goes live on Thursday 19th June.

Farfetch'd debut and the Summer Festival event is Monday 23rd June.
Summer Festival:
>Snorlax will want curries / stews
>1.5x strength cooking bonus
>Varied sleep style encounters regardless of your own sleep type
>Boosted Pokémon spawns (especially Farfetch'd)
>Candy Cram-o-matic available (turn unwanted Pokémon candies into Handy Candy M of a random type)

Farfetch'd appears at Greengrass, Cyan Beach, or Old Gold Power Plant.
Cyan Beach looks like the best map to go to.
The event boosted encounters for things like Caterpie, Wooper, Psyduck, somewhat suggests the new curry/stew might use potatoes, mushrooms, honey, apples, I dunno. The featured species probably are for ingredients you're likely to want for new or existing curries.

>>57915945
The game literally tells you "water, bug and flying type spawns will be boosted"

Truly an amazing first night at Taupe.

When do I quit?

>>57916468
It's all babies
And an orphan

>>57916555
104

>>57916690
Alright, I’ll dump all my shards and candies in 4 weeks.

Sleep tight, /zzz/.

Bundles. (A whole lot of nothing)

>>57918078
do they ever put good camp tickets in the bundles?

>>57918078
The bundles are getting worse every update, what's next? Increasing the required sleep points to buy items?

>>57918132
Pretty sure they've shown up at least a couple times. It was probably for one of the bigger events though, like Pokemon Day or Anniversary.

>>57918155
I mean, bundles usually aren't the most exciting thing. Only rarely do they give you that much of a "bargain". All the bits and pieces in each pack change a lot regardless of how similar the event is, but while it can be hard to gauge overall value, there are certain things that you really just don't care about. Usually incenses, shards, candies, and ingredient tickets are basically invisible, so you're mainly looking out for biscuits, skill seeds, and evolution materials.

>one pip left
>mega crit

>>57918132
They have in the past but infrequently. I remember the first Good Sleep Day bundle set included a camp ticket.

Excess energy should convert to strength... except for E4E skills, or maybe it only affects the caster. Like every 1 energy past 150 converts to 100 strength (affected by Area Bonus).

>>57919035
Had that happen this morning on a Sprigatito. The official terms are "big hit" and "mega hit".

For 5 pointers, I always use Premium Bonus Biscuit first in case that's the one that crits.
Better to use a 4 pointer followed by a 1 pointer, rather than the 1 pointer followed by the 4 pointer.

>>57919729
I'm not really sure, the energy cap of 150 already means they're going to maintain peak performance for a whole 11+ hours.
On the other hand, the game is kind about overflow, turning excess EXP into candies and excess research EXP into dream shards.
About halfway to rank 64 btw.

>>57919729
Energizing cheer should automatically target the mon on your team with the lowest energy. It should also heal twice as much as it does.

>>57920497
It's better to use a normal biscuit first in case it mega crits. You may just find yourself catching one mon and give 4 pips to another one as well.

togepi
eggs/ginger/eggs
skill ^ / energy v
10: Dream Shard Bonus
25: Helping speed S
50: BFS
75: skill trigger M
100: ingredient S
worth?

>>57921825
... why not post a pic?

>>57921832
...why not answer the question?
my phone had a big captcha cooldown and my pc had nvr

>>57921869
Imma try to build your skill here:
Why would you consider that Togepi to be good?

New curry recipe came out last night, requires 27 leeks, 26 sausage and honey, and 22 eggs

81 leeks a day is almost impossible for the current leek farmers outside the absolute top God rolls (HB/HSM/IFM with ing+ nature barely gets there with GCT)

>>57922067
it's not any better than the hidden power beans, so I don't think anyone should bother
27 leeks is absurd. That's why no one makes the cola

>>57922098
WDYM it's not better? It's stronger at the base with the same bonus, making it stronger overall. 8% IIRC.
Leek duck is around the corner too

>>57922128
exactly, it has the same bonus except that leeks are much harder to gather than mushrooms are
unless leek duck is a literal god tier ingredient pokemon, you'll always be better off making the hidden power beans, in my opinion. And I really doubt they'll make the second strongest ingredient as easy to gather as apples

>>57922157
It's situational, the big dishes like the new curry or hidden power stew are intended to be end of week dishes, less so "make at every single opportunity".

It also depends on what ingredient specialists you've got on your own account.
I'd have an easier time gathering the sausages, honey, eggs, and leeks needed for the new curry.
Whereas for the hidden power stew, I have a difficult time gathering the tomatoes and the beans since I'm lacking any decent options for those. Mushrooms and coffee I'm good for though.

>>57922204
>the big dishes like the new curry or hidden power stew are intended to be end of week dishes
I don't agree, I think it's actually pretty easy to make it at least once a day, even without the camp ticket. It's just requires a lot of micro managing.
>It also depends on what ingredient specialists you've got on your own account.
True, but finding a good wooper (mushroom) is still leagues easier than finding a good farfetch'd, just because single stages are a pain in the ass to catch. Though I guess you could also use dugtrio or quaxly.
>I have a difficult time gathering the tomatoes and the beans since I'm lacking any decent options for those.
I just use Golem, I know tyranitar is the best bean pokemon but I already have a mono ginger I'm working on and I can't imagine doing 2 of those

>>57922098
The problem with Cola vs Eclair is that Cola is just so much worse points-wise than the alternative, not that Leeks are difficult to get. Given that top two recipes of each category use different ingredients, you can just alternate recipes without having to make large sacrifices.

>>57923087
Zing Zap Cola may be second place, but it definitely has its place as a back up for when you fall short on a Clodsire Éclair, but happen to have enough to make a Cola.

It's not even that far off from first place, but that'll change over time.

This week's new curry together the most recent dessert and salad, push the limit of the maximum cooking pot size with the Sunday 1.5x capacity bonus.
I wonder if this signals them introducing new sleep dex goals, to unlock bigger cooking pots, or even a new island? Expert mode might come sooner, though.

>>57923711
I mean the difference in power makes sense, but Cola in particular falls into an odd spot of requiring too many ingredients for an un-buffed pot, but is considerably lower than the top recipes. At 87, you need at least a pot skill to make, but at 15 ingredients below Eclairs, it just doesn't match up once you have the capacity to make both.

>>57916468
>Taupe
Yeah, you’ll get used to it

So if I'm reading this right, next week doesn't even have a boosted pot, right? So if I'm not using a GCT I should just focus on making dream eater butter curry?

>>57925024
Unless you have a good cooking pot pokemon like magnezone, glaceon or flareon.

Do i murder this 2 years old charizard?

>>57925627
No, your current Charizard is better even if it's just as a sausage farmer.
Give it a subskill seed to upgrade Ingredient Finder S to M, and you'll see how many more ingredients it picks up despite the helping speed penalty (that is nearly cancelled by Helping Bonus anyway).

Surprisingly best Toegpi I've gotten so far. Think I'd still want BFS or at least helping speed on it though.

>>57925940
You'll want something closer to this.

>>57925964
>6.3k
wtf is this metronome inflation

>>57925706
Should i invest is the charmander anyway for a fire berry zard?

>>57926044
I don't care about RP but I guess that is high?
I always assumed gold skills inflate that score.

>>57925964
>>57926044
>>57926205
That's pretty high, and it'll go higher once it reaches 60. Both skill levels and gold skills contribute a lot to RP.
Here are my top 4, for instance.

>>57926267
both do but apparently each metronome level adds like 800

Found a shiny hogator.

>>57926057
If you really need one over an actual Fire berry type like Vulpix or Typhlosion, go ahead. BFS Charizard is pretty decent, but not solely worth going after.

>>57927305
For Taupe Hollow Entei teams specifically, every fire helper with BFS is a boon.

That specific Charmander though, I'm not so sure about. It's fast but it has no ingredient boosts.
Helper Boost would probably over-compensate and still make it a good ginger option at least.

>>57927462
I mean, if you're going for a Entei team or just focusing on the berries at all then who really cares about ingredient finding. I'd say Charizard is fast enough to be a decent BFS alternative, better than a lot of non-bfs berry specialists, but not so much so that he eclipses them (like Gengar and Dragonite).

>>57927289
Pretty okay all things considered.

How is everyone doing on type medals?
Man we need more dragons.

>>57928999
Dragon has exactly 4 pokemon in sleep, the same exact number as ground types we have

Only difference is we got 3 dragons almost a year into the game, and now almost 2 years in we've had 0 new ground types

>>57928999
I haven't looked at it in the longest of times. I realise I ignore Taupe often

>>57928999

>>57928999
I actually spent a decent amount of time on Snowdrop, but not long enough I guess. Most types only really have a handful of Pokemon, and some are a lot rarer in general.

>>57929056
We'll get another when the final island unlocks, but that will probably be after Expert Mode does. Also we'll probably get at least one more prior to that. I'm thinking both Cyan and Snowdrop could use more incentive. Hell, even Powerplant could actually use something more enticing.

>>57929992
We're also only a month away from the 2nd anniversary.
For the 1st anniversary, we had a week long event, 150 bonus sleep points in the lead up to that event, and daily news about new updates etc, such as the introduction of the Good-Night ribbons.

We're very likely to get Expert Mode news around then, and I wonder if the 2nd anniversary event might give us new starter mons. The Kalos starters seem pretty likely as cross-promotion for Legends Z-A, in the way that the Paldea starters promoted Scarlet and Violet.

>>57930016
>Kalos
Yay, can't wait to get like 10 shiny frogs to be the first shinies I dump off a cliff because I hate the fucker.

>>57930016
Eh, the Paldea starters showing up in Sleep were quite far removed from being all that relevant except that it was the latest mainline game by that time. IIRC, Arceus came out around that time, but we never really got anything related to that. Cross-promotion between mainline and spinoff games historically tends to be very disjointed, though not sure if Sleep now being controlled by the new TPC sub-company will change that.

>another shiny from the Gengar line
That's my 5th

>>57930797
Arceus was before SV.

>>57930797
It's not just the games mind you, the Paldea starters were and still are in focus because of the multimedia like the anime.

The original anime series would often tangent on things to help cross-promote the upcoming games (Togepi is a key example of that).
More recently, they did a whole bunch of stuff with Shiny Rayquaza appearing in S/V, and having merch to sell.

Since Legends Z-A is the next big game to release for the end-of-year season, some amount of Kalos representation in various games and media makes sense.
I wonder if they'll even go as far as to introduce a Mega Evolution gimmick to Sleep? Mega Evolution has been the most prominent thing to add into spin-offs, like Go, Shuffle, Mystery Dungeon, etc.

>>57930016
Unova starters may also be possible for Z-A buildup, even if it's to add Tepig alongside Chikorita and Totodile who are already in the game.

>>57931830
Mega evolution seems the most likely new gimmick to add into sleep, I did the counts for pokemon capable of mega evolution and we currently have 22/46 of the Pokemon that can mega evolve pre legends z-a.

>103 friendship
>2 eevee events
>STILL not a single shiny eevee
why??

>>57932324
>found 2 shiny eevees and a jolteon
>released them all

>no new sleep styles found again

Man I feel like I've been stuck trying to unlock the power plant level for forever.

Cleaned out a couple slots
ID: orz
3696-9522-6056

>another week at Taupe without onix spawns despite getting slumbering quite often

>>57932725
>go to Tundra
>looking for Murkrow and Rufflet
>so slumbering and dozing are both good
>get snoozing x3, slumbering x3, dozing x1
>nothing

One more week gone down the drain

Here's next week's event missions, pretty typical stuff but a generous helping of dream shard clusters.

As a reminder, Farfetch'd will be available at Greengrass, Cyan Beach, and Old Gold Power Plant.
Water, Bug, and Flying types are boosted, all sleep styles can be encountered.
Cooking will have a 1.5x strength multiplier, and the Candy Cram-o-matic will be available.

We also have the New Moon Day event next week, on Tuesday 24th, Wednesday 25th, Thursday 26th.

>>57933104
I'm torn where to go. I'm thinking beach to maybe hope for m20, but my berry power there is lacking.

>>57933104
>>57933120

For reference >>57895842
Cyan is definitely the most full and basically has everything you'd want out of an event like this. I guess Lapis might be ok too, but then you lose out on Farfetch'd

Mono Leeka

>It won't be mono-leek
>It won't be an ingredient specialist

Kek, the new Leek King is here.
Good luck getting a viable one though, let alone mono-leeks, it's 16 pips.

>>57934209
Also more importantly, it's the best leeks option by far at level 30.

Why'd it have to have sausages at 30 though? The quantities are amazing due to the base strength of leeks, but its base ingredient finding rate of 16% means it doesn't challenge Aggron, Charizard, or even Bewear for sausage gathering.
It should've had eggs, it's a bird for fuck's sakes.

Good 7am start to the Beach day.

>>57934209
>quaquavel completely worthless now
the chances of us getting an easily befriended 2 or 3 stage leek pokemon are very low. Better go all in searching for a good leek duck if you really want leeks

>>57934356
Quaquaval is still a top option for beans and a solid option for leeks IF you can get it to 60.
It's far more accessible due to Quaxly being a decently common spawn, Farfetch'd is a long-term end goal with Quaquaval being your interim option.

If Farfetch'd is listed as an encounter for Cyan Beach, why can't I use the incense there?

>>57934447
Since it's not 3PM yet.

>>57934209
>>57934213
Cyan's lacking a dedicated tomato farmer, this has made me realize. Obviously most people would swap in their Victreebel but the only type compatible option is the Slowpoke line and not until level 60.

i'm still hunting for a good grubbin
I caight a charjabug on a super crit one night and even with Ing Finder S and Ing Finder M, negative nature fucking sucks
I get like 2 coffe beans a day

>>57934209
>>57934106
Oh thank god.

Ah. Not quite.

>>57934490
Sometimes you just eat the berry efficiency to make up one important ingredient for heavy hitter dishes.
I've got my A/B/C BFS Victreebel on Cyan Beach right now for some leeks and tomatoes.

I desperately need a dedicated tomato farmer though, I keep getting unlucky with Shinx and Bellsprout, but I did get a decent Mr. Mime or Mime. Jr recently, forget which.

>>57934876
Tbh a worthy candidate just for berry strength, shame about the A/B/A ingredient spread but it's workable at 60.

Does bird need helping speed?

>>57935477
BFS+HB is plenty good enough. Don't forget the whole team benefits from that.

>>57935477
Nah this is plenty good enough, I'd full send

>>57935965
What in the goddamn?

>>57935965
Elite level gamer

>>57935965

>>57935965
Good lord

>>57935932
My best berry bros are twice as fast, does the dragon berry really make up for that?

It's CRAM time.

Something useful that I hadn't realized until a few days ago.
Whenever you're selecting ingredients for a meal or candies for Cram-o-matic, you can hold multiple things at once to add all of them.
For example, say you have a lot of extra pot space for filler ingredients, and you're filling it with 4 different ingredients, you can hold all four of them at the same time to fill them all in, making it go faster.

Goodnight, /zzz/.
Remember to brush your teeth.

>>57936735
Nobody cares about your cheating.

>>57936839
Define what cheating? I got 2 crits on my meals/

>>57936848
>2 crits
Fuck you, my dedenne is useless

>could've been literally any ingredient specialist pokemon instead

>>57936882
But that's still on the edge of being good. No ingredient finding sub until 50 is still a considerable hurdle, and the first 2 skills don't do that much either.

the full mechanic is the worst part of this game

why is it so fucking hard to get grubbins to spawn
holy fuck

>>57935965
>>57936179
Are you guys well-rested?

I've still been getting S-rank but my sleep quality has been terrible for the past few months.

>>57937769
First anon here, I feel great

>>57937307
I experienced that this morning.
Hungry Farfetch'd, got +12 from a big hit premium bonus biscuit, and then +3 from a big hit poké biscuit, then full.
That's the cruel part about 16 pip hungry encounters, is that you can't befriend them in just 2 biscuits unless you get very very lucky, or reach for an ultra biscuit.
I would've used a poké or great biscuit next if the first poké biscuit didn't make them full.

>>57937949
How much of that is setting your sleep tracking up, and then not actually being in bed for several hours?

>>57938056
>How much of that is setting your sleep tracking up, and then not actually being in bed for several hours?
0%, I never did that

Can anyone rate this guy for me? I use him on lapis all the time but idk if it’s actually good.

>>57938461
main skill down is pretty awful, you're basically using it as a berry pokemon which works for espeon because of its speed but psychic berries are just mid

>>57938538
At the very least, makes it a viable option as part of a Cresselia team, but yeah it doesn't serve its intended role of skill triggers effectively.
HB+BFS still makes it a nice option, but would've probably served better as a Jolteon or Flareon where their main skill isn't as important.

I think I made it into an espeon before there were any good psychic berry options but yeah it probably hasn’t aged well

Hows this drifloon, and hows drifblim in general? I remember the stockpile mechanic wasn't great on paper

>>57939026
Max skill trigger makes it good for a Drifblim, but Stockpile puts it on the lower end among the top Charge Strength skill users. It's just way too inconsistent and takes far too many stockpiles to actually get a decent payoff. I charted it out a while ago, and it was something like 6+ stockpiles before it beat just spitting up the entire time.

>>57939135
You know what's missing from the whole Stockpile thing in Sleep?
The passive bonuses of having a stockpile. There's no equivalent to the raised defense stages, like Drifblim temporary gathering stronger berries, more ingredients, more frequently, etc, as long as it has a stockpile.

>>57939026
It's fantastic, I would invest in it, though I'm biased because I like Drifblim a lot.
From checking on Raenonx, a super maxed out Drifblim is only slightly worse than a super maxed out Ampharos (66k str vs 69k), but you also have a chance to get super massive procs which is nice.

>>57939026
Is it too hard to just look at how you have a skillmon with a skill nature and both skill triggers by 50 and comprehend how good it is or isn't?

>>57939273
Man with games like this where you only get a good pokemon once every 2 months and investing takes a lot of resources, and sometimes a pokemon just isn't good at performing, and all that adds up to make me paranoid. Like how someone said even a maxed out drifblim is slightly worse than ampharos, how am I supposed to know that by looking at drifloon.

>>57939442
All things considered, if you're in the market for a skill Pokemon to eat some seeds, go for it. At the end of the day, a good "mediocre" Pokemon beats a mediocre "good" Pokemon.

>>57939243
If the equivalent stats to defense and special defense are energy recovery and skill triggers, then stockpile should increase both of those.

They should also just make skill specialist pokemon's main skill level up twice upon evolution.

>>57939442
Anon, please note that the maxed out Drifblim is slightly worse than a maxed out Ampharos, not just any Ampharos.
And even then, the difference is minuscule.

>>57939553
Increased energy and skill triggers sounds like a nice chance for a snowball effect.

In the future, I wonder if we'll get a Stockpile / Swallow user?

>used my farfetch'd incense
>got it hungry so got it with prem daily, great and normal
>AAB with speed down, help S at 100 and no ingredient up skills at all
Well I guess I finally unlocked leeks but wow that sucked just about as badly as physically possible. Can't wait for the next one because it is almost impossible for it to be worse

>shit app crashed on new moon day of all days
lol
>inb4 force it to stay open!!!112
i already do

>>57940565
close it once in a while

Sad

They should add long-pressing an active team mon on the field screen opens up their info page where they can be fed candies or evolved.

>>57940547
next one will be:
>ingredient down exp up
>with leek, sausage, ginger
>dreamshard bonus, research exp, skill trigger s, sleep exp and inventory s at level 100

>>57939735
In terms of this game's mechanics, Spit Up and Swallow would likely end up being the same thing. I don't really see building up for a self-recovery effect making much sense. Like an E4E version of Stockpile sounds awful.

>cooked 5 dishes all at 40% ET odds this week
>None of them crit
>Cook a dish at 60%
>No crit

I've crit 2/9 meals this week, my dedenne is doing really well, just the game's rng deciding to fuck with me

>>57941974
same here. I've been at 50% for 7 meals now... no crits.

This New Moon event really needs some other kind of tangible boost. It's basically nothing as it is.

>>57942787
What do you mean you get to feed darkrai biscuit #7 of 12 so that it learns inventory up s

>>57942787
>>57942885
i said to myself i wasn't going to feed darkrai any more biscuits but he showed up and i did

>>57942885
you jest but that really happened to me

>>57941174
You can do it in the team select screen, that should be more than enough

>>57942885
you get subskills for feeding biscuits?
I haven't even bothered to give my free biscuit to it

>>57944219
if you catch him you get a eureka seed which unlocks/rerolls subskills and ingredients

Fuck this shit, not worth the trouble

>>57944553
Note that if you re-roll a subskill, you don't have to commit to the reroll.
If you don't like the change, you can reject it to receive 40 candies instead.

>no Darkrai today either

I got a Inventory Up M, Ing Finder S, Helping Speed M, neutral nature, mono leek Farfetch'd. Do you guys think it's enough for me to invest in? I could give him the 1 or 2 subskill seeds to up it to Ing Finder M.
It's not amazing but still, with how much I struggled to find a decent Fuecoco for Apples, I think I might just go for it.

>>57945302
to be honest if you're willing to use the sub skill seed like you said, I'd go for it
you're unlikely to get something better and will waste a ton of biscuits trying. Good enough is good enough, especially since you got mono leek

Mah Balloon exploded!

>>57945302
It's worth it. Farfetch'd with just Ingredient Finder M beats an optimal Dugtrio or Quaquaval easily, especially at level 30 alone.

Since you're unlikely to find better, or spend a really long time finding one, it's worth taking this Farfetch'd to level 30 at the very least so you can have a dedicated leek farmer.