Thoughts on the roaming legendaries mechanics?

Another time-wasting garbage feature gen 2 introduced

i like it, it makes for an interesting challenge, forcing you to use stuff like arena trap or mean look

>>57911289 (OP)
>having the privilege to choose either of the Latis, only to waste it on the blu piece of shit
lmaooo

It's one of those things that could be cool but falls short of the mark most of the time. The best iteration was in Gen V with Tornadus or Thundurus. Having them only appearing in certain routes and having the overworld change to reflect their presence was good

Cancer

>>57911297
fpbp

>>57911297
Fippy bippy

>>57911309
Emerald did it before Gen V with Groudon and Kyogre spawing on certain routes with respectively harsh sunlight or heavy rain.

>>57911309
>The best iteration was in Gen VIII with the legendary birds because the game wasn't lazy dogshit and actually had overworld encounters
ftfy

i dont have proof, but years ago i was playing an emulated rse game on vba and was speeding everything up
i sped through a random encounter with one of the latis and i dont know how it happened but i ended up in a battle with a trainer after defeating the lati accidentally

>>57911332
>playing past Gen VII
Grim

>>57911332
>Gen 8
>Doing anything well
Kek

>>57911289 (OP)
Loses its magic when you learn to manipulate the spawn by walking between two areas, and again when you learn to prevent it from escaping which just turns it into a regular static encounter.

But really cool before that. Everyone remembers the confusion when different music played on an encounter, followed by a legendary appearing which you didn't expect. And then it promptly running away lol.

>>57911327
This was so soulful it hurts.

>>57911297
This. It's a novel idea at first until you realize what the implications of catching it are.

>>57911289 (OP)
>put roaming legendary to sleep
>it still runs away

>>57911289 (OP)
I never minded roamers, rare and powerful Pokemon being challenging to catch makes them feel more rewarding.

>>57911289 (OP)
TOTALLY UNFAIR, just think of the poor kiddsu who want Latia/os they actually have to put their effort in catching it?
Thankfully ORAS fixed this mistake by giving it to you for free mid story along with the mega

>>57911289 (OP)
>could be SOVLFUL in a fully open world 3D game where you're actually, actively hunting down this Pokemon and can visibly see them more often than not, a region-wide game of cat and mouse that might even lead you to find new secrets you never would've paid attention to otherwise
>the closest we got was SWSH's Wild Areas and then it didn't return for SV's full open world areas

>>57911727
Game Freak are only capable of making things worse or removing them completely

I think roamers are a good idea but players needed easier access to trapping mechanics for it to actually be a fun encounter type. Like 99.99% of players are never going to encounter latias with an overleveled trapinch or a sableye with mean look on their leading slot, so they're either going to fumble endlessly or just master ball it.

>>57911727
What, you don't enjoy meeting Groudon, the legendary creator of the land who fought thousands of years ago in a brutal battle for supremacy that almost turned earth into a volcano filled hellscape, standing still in a random spot in the map?
Well sucks to be you then, clearly you have no idea what REAL fun is like

>>57911764

>gold and silver roamers are super early game and you can find them at almost any point during your playthrough
>every other roamer afterwards is basically post game

whats the fucking point

>>57912529
probably to not give you a free legendary before the postgame. I know the game devs couldn't have predicted that autists would speedrun their games, but it's incredibly boring to watch GSC speedruns to get a legendary beast and then then steamroll everyone with it. Not that pokemon speedruns aren't inherently boring, just feels like even lower stakes than plowing through with a nidoking or something.

>>57911727
They tried this with the genies in LA and it was one of the worst experiences in a pokemon game yet.

>>57911520
What are they?

>>57911526
>Use arena trap/mean look
>GF gave the legendary whirlwind/roar

>>57911289 (OP)
Last time I played HG, I kept stumbling on Raikou for some reason. I usually don't catch legendaries in the Johto games but since I just kept finding the guy, I ended up capturing it. It was fun!

>>57911289 (OP)
Mixed execution. Groudon, Kyogre, Tornadus and Thundurus are great implementations, I also like chasing Suicune in CHGSS, but the actual roamers that just teleport around the map suck. They don't even pose a challenge, it's a mere goose chase.

>>57911297
> time-wasting garbage feature
I am not the biggest fan of it, but you fags surely need to understand that pokemon is played best when you don‘t speedrun through the game. Take your time, raise different mons, breed some mons for attacks, natures etc.
game becomes more fun that way

Frustrated me as a kid, but I like it now. You should get maybe three or five turns before it runs though as it does take some of the fun out of randomly stumbling on it. Either you master ball it, or you chase it down with a flee prevention technique.

Giving you a few turns to try would be more fun in my opinion.

>>57911343
That's a glitch that happens if you faint Latios/as after losing a trainer battle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjqMC_p024A

>>57912548
>the game devs couldn't have predicted that autists would speedrun their games
the devs know how roamer and catch rng works, they 100% knew it would happen

>>57912737
Thanks for reminding me of why Pkhex exists

>>57911289 (OP)
Roaming legendary pokemon are one of the reasons I used cheating devices on silver, ruby, diamond and black.

>>57911332
Yawn pls

>>57911289 (OP)
Sovl

>>57911289 (OP)
>Pretty Good: Overworld minigame, unusual weather in same route as roamer, encountering the roamer a few times before battling it in a stationary spot
>Okay: Random roaming (Sinnoh)
>Somewhat Annoying: Random roaming (non-Sinnoh)
>Special Place In Hell: FRLG roaming Roar bug
Dishonorable mentions to story mandated legendary captures and Snacksworth for being so bad that I'd rather deal with roaming Pokémon in Gens 2 and 3.
>>57912743
Maybe the chance to flee increases the lower its HP is. You can lower its health in the first couple of encounters, then by the time its HP is in the red, it'll try to flee every turn unless you can trap it.

Only exist to give you a reason to use your masterball

>>57913814
Whats wrong with Snacksworth? It's a fun little riddle hunt where you can explore the world again.

>>57911297
FPBP

>>57911289 (OP)
I liked tracking them with the little watch in gen 4

>>57911289 (OP)
I understood the gimmick. It fits with the theme of adventuring out and searching for something one-of-a-kind, but yes there is an argument to be made that roaming legendary hunting can be frustrating and time consuming.
>>57911309
>>57911327
But this is where Game Freak really nailed it with roaming legendaries. If you walk into an area in a Pokemon game where something like an intense weather condition doesn't typically happen, then that weather condition becomes an indicator to the player that within this area "something" is here. And if you stay long enough you find that reason. You don't get that with other legendaries like Raikou or Latios or whoever.

>>57911289 (OP)
monster hunter if he kino

>>57912560
When it runs away immediately, it's not a cool concept anymore, it's fucking annoying.

>>57912548
>probably to not give you a free legendary before the postgame.
But the modern games just do this now

>>57911289 (OP)
The only time they did them well was in SwSh

>>57913133
damn thanks

The roaming itself is interesting, but the running away is garbage and annoying to deal with. When you do encounter them it should just be a normal battle.

>>57912581
based.

>>57912737
that sounds like a surefire way for me to dislike every game

>>57911309
>>57911327
SOUL

It was exciting in GSC. Playing the game normally, then suddenly hearing THIS instead of the regular wild theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exG220Mur04
At the time it helped to make Pokemon's world feel mysterious. I don't enjoy it much now though. I just use tricks and Master balls to get it over with quickly.

>>57915163
First time encounter is awesome yeah. The novelty wears off if you choose to not use a master ball and continue the chase for an extended amount of time. Like instead of going "Huh? WHAT!?" you just go "Alright let's try this again"

>>57911332

>>57911289 (OP)
>gen 3 didn't have a different unique theme
>Not even FRLG whose roaming are the beasts and they already made a barebones version of the GSC theme (they use the same as any other legendary other than Mewtwo)
What were they thinking?

>>57916314
>gen 3 didn't have a different unique theme
GSC didn't even have a box legend theme

>>57914373
Everything is wrong with this creepy old man and his legendary ruse cruise.

Just bring a Lax Incense with you.
They'd won't be able to flee if you have one.

>>57911289 (OP)
Fun, but fuck any game that has more than one.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK Platinum for the shit it pulled.

>>57916338
Technically, Crystal did

>>57911289 (OP)
I loved it as a kid, the idea of a dangerous legendary beast randomly jumpscaring you in virtually anywhere felt pretty damn cool
Now the magic of innocence is gone, but I still found it pretty cool with the Galar birds

>>57911289 (OP)
Dunno, never caught one in any game.

>>57912737
None of the games are hard enough for that though, even for children.
A major problem Pokemon has is that there's no incentive to bother to engage with any of the systems like EV/IV stuff, natures, egg moves, breeding at all, weather moves, most buff/debuff moves and so on, so outside of training some underused Pokemon (until they made EXP Share a ton easier to get and later made it mandatory), nobody really stops anywhere to smell the roses, there's no reason to.

A good idea poorly executed most of the time

>>57911308
How is it worse than the red piece of shit?
It's literally the same mon, just colorswapped

>>57912737
pokemon is literally mash A to win. if you want a monster catching sim where the games pushes you to engage with all the mechanics available in order to win, go play SMT

>>57911289 (OP)
Really fun mechanic

>>57911332
True

>>57920644
Latias's Gen 3 front- and backsprite shits on Latios's. Also Latias's eyes are prettier. Therefore Latios is a blu piece of shit.

>>57911308
Latias has better looks but Latios is better in Frontier

>>57911289 (OP)
Annoying

>>57921966
>Latias has better looks
Damn right she does