What is that... Idescribable feeling? Please Help. The Celebi movie, and, a lot of the Johto - /vp/ (#57918206) [Archived: 1005 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:20:35 AM No.57918206
Pokemon-Movie-4-Celebi
Pokemon-Movie-4-Celebi
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Have these like... Hand-drawn scenes... Foggy forests that have this... Feeling... Like... Its like I can go there almost. I feel a sense of longing when I look at them. Like I'm staring at the secrets of the universe. The art has such a rich, unique TEXTURE to it.

But its more than just the art... I truly feel something whenever I see like, old cards from kanto or johto, like, a very specific old aesthetic... It really really feels like theres something hidden there. And my desire to escape into that world. That maybe I could make that world real, if only my will was strong enough to take me.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:23:52 AM No.57918210
meds now
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:25:51 AM No.57918216
>>57918206 (OP)
Welcome to the times before widespread use of high-fidelity computer graphics and standarization of corporate artistic processes. Pokemon started at the very tail end of that era, for good or worse.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:27:52 AM No.57918220
>>57918206 (OP)
Soul.
>>57918210
There is nothing wrong with a healthy dose of escapism, anon.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:28:54 AM No.57918223
>>57918216(me)
Try to get into 80s and early 90s OVA scene. A lot of it was just budget committees throwing money at random projects so there's a lot of experimentation and works of various quality. You may also end insane trying to chase some more obscure stuff.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:33:50 AM No.57918230
noctowl
noctowl
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>>57918216
>>57918220
Soul huh? And a world before Hi-fidelity graphics... There are many cards that make me feel this way. A lot of those like... Early cards that have the pokemon who look like clay make me feel that way too. But also, this noctowl, look at the rich background on this, look at how incredible that looks. Theres a quilava from a similar set which also was pretty cool looking I think.

I guess you could call it soul. This soul... Its so incredible, so rare.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:40:57 AM No.57918244
beautiful
beautiful
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Every frame of the Celebi movie like I said has this... And Pokemon the first movie had a lot of moments like that too. Like... How can anyone look at these movies, and not feel something you know?
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:41:36 AM No.57918247
>>57918206 (OP)
It's called soul.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:50:33 AM No.57918262
>>57918206 (OP)
based schizo
wish i was this kind of schizo instead of the bad kind
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:25:53 AM No.57918297
Escapism
Escapism
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>>57918220
No dose is healthy, no matter how much you like it.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:33:33 AM No.57918308
>>57918230
god so many of the old cards just made you wanna stare at them for hours.
>>57918244
pure art
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:52:27 AM No.57918331
>>57918206 (OP)
That's your natural urge to return to the forest anon
Reject modernity
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:43:28 AM No.57918392
>>57918206 (OP)
I get what you mean maybe, it's like a feeling of almost nostalgia for a time and place that never actually existed. I've felt it with other art too
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:45:33 AM No.57918395
>>57918206 (OP)
Let me guess, you're a zoomer?
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:57:13 AM No.57918408
>>57918297
>Escapism
>Vesper

...that's why he escaped from Hololive the very moment when Cover decided to give him an actually non-shitty model? XD
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:46:56 AM No.57918469
66083540_p0
66083540_p0
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that's the power of onion magic
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:51:27 AM No.57918478
kaiju celebi
kaiju celebi
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i liked this movie a lot, but i wish we got to see this thing in a more realized form later down the line
as far as i know it doesn't even have a name
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 11:22:25 AM No.57918523
>>57918206 (OP)
This feeling is generally called "sehnsucht". It can be summed up as being akin to nostalgia, but for somewhere or something you've never experienced. C.S. Lewis wrote a famous essay about it. It's more common than most people assume, but people tend not to talk about it, because if you mention it to someone who has never (and can never) feel it, you will seem like a lunatic.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:24:33 PM No.57918779
>>57918523
Sehnsucht just means yearning or longing.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:36:57 PM No.57919036
zoomers discover mirrors_thumb.jpg
zoomers discover mirrors_thumb.jpg
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>>57918206 (OP)
>zoomie discovers hand-drawn animation for the first time
Now you know that we're not just meming old good new bad all the time. You should listen to your elders.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 12:32:36 AM No.57920492
>>57918478
This should be alt form
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 12:59:27 AM No.57920561
>>57918779
As a loanword into English, it's never used in a general sense, like some foreign borrowings. It's used exclusively for this specific concept. It's very similar to the Portuguese "saudade", which is linguistically identical to "solitude" - however, only part of its range of connotations and meaning is referred to when borrowed. It's very fitting that a concept defined by its own inability to be properly defined is only expressed with foreign words, literally and symbolically saying that the speaker's mind and language is insufficient for the task of explaining such an otherworldly feeling.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 12:59:39 AM No.57920562
1750211890340630
1750211890340630
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Weakto sucks and so do it's movies.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 1:02:40 AM No.57920572
>>57919036
genuinely concerning video
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 1:18:07 AM No.57920611
86532674
86532674
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>>57919036
Reminds me of pic rel
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 3:15:34 AM No.57920910
1591570160376
1591570160376
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For me, it's not just the nostalgia and the warmth of hand drawn art. There's this sense of adventure and mystery that lingers even now that I'm an adult with a job and bills and crushed dreams. The whole pokemon world used to feel like magic, and I'm not sure what changed or when exactly but the current slop doesn't have that same spark. It's not because I'm older or because it's new, or the 3d/hd assets mean I can't fill in the gaps the way I could with pixels. There's actually something missing that I can't quite put my finger on besides calling it soul.

Even though I know there's nothing more to the Ruins of Alph than "solve these puzzles, the bit to trigger encounters with these unown forms flips, they're crazy week despite the lore so you'll never seriously use any of them unless you go out of your way as a challenge, and there's no story here beyond they're ancient pokemon that inspired writing" I still find myself drawn to it. Same with Team Rocket's experiments with cloning to create mewtwo, the regi trio in rse and Snowpoint temple/regigigas in dppt, the cave paintings in Celestic Town, even the weapon and the mass graveyard at Geosenge in xy feels like there's a weight to it worthy of respect and a reason to return even when there's nothing more to do there ingame.

The tapus almost felt like there was something there, but it just didn't land and felt like they were just generic area bosses rather than a part of the world. PLA failed to answer any existing questions or bring up any new ones, running around throwing balls and sneaking through the grass to catch pokemon was fun, but none of the events or locations felt like they meant anything beyond what happened on screen. Haven't played swsh and gave up on sv before I got a single badge but from what I've seen around the internet they're both just as surface level in their world building and all the good in the story is in the rival interactions. Nothing gives me that "I wish I was there" feeling.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 1:33:22 PM No.57921981
Bump
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 10:12:06 PM No.57923165
>>57920910
Well said.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 11:23:40 PM No.57923375
1341322034079
1341322034079
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>>57919036
This has to be be shitposting. Gen Z's version lol so rAnDoM quirky XD I'm CRAZY! humor. Surely nobody over the age of like 6, 10 if you're extra retarded, doesn't understand how light and mirrors work even if they don't have the words to explain it. I can't believe it.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 11:52:53 PM No.57923455
tcgstockart
tcgstockart
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>>57918230
>>57918308
They made good use of the stock art by editing the backgrounds to mesh with the subject's art style. The quality lessened when Sugimori's style changed in Gen 3, but some card managed to salvage it. By Gen 5, the stock art usage overall came off as extremely cheap. It also helped that the better ones were early in the game's lifespan when the amount of illustrators and the expectations for the artwork were far lower.
Pokรฉmon Aaaah! has an article detailing the stock backgrounds used in the TCG: https://www.pokemonaaah.net/research/tcgbackground/

Pic related.
>Old Sugimori art on Gen 1 card vs new Sugimori art on Gen 4 card
>New Sugimori art, Gen 4 vs Gen 5
>Old Sugimori art, Gen 1 vs Gen 6 callback