>you lived long enough to see mega evolutions become a beloved mainstay of Pokemon and gigantamax tossed to the wayside despite /vp/edos absolutely hating megas when they were introduced and forcing people to like gigantamax

>>57928959 (OP)
If you think megas will be in the next game after ZA I think you'll be disappointed by GF predictably replacing it with something else again.

Out of the gen 6+ gimmicks mega evolution is my favorite, just for reference.

>>57928973
Not OP but it seems that there's a chance it'll stick around for Gen 10 at the very least since there's now an entire section on the Pokemon website dedicated to mega evolution.

>>57928959 (OP)
Tons of people hate all the gimmicks, retard. Megas are getting cut after plass 2 and won’t appear in anything other than their shitty pvp spinoff.

>>57928973
At least out of all the Gimmicks, Megas seem to be the most reoccuring in Side Games like Go, Masters, Unite, ect.

>>57928959 (OP)
Megas are literally just an itemless evolution, they're fine

>>57929023
I'll never understand why GF decided to not just keep doing Megas forever. It covered all the bases both in-game and IRL and it was an evergreen concept.
YW and its consequences have been a disaster for the Pokemon franchise. Crazy how to this day we still are feeling the effects from that brief period.

>>57928959 (OP)
Turns out making your Bromon go SUPER SAIYAN through the POWER OF BONDS is a cooler concept than meme dances, kaijuu without the stuff that actually make kaijuu cool and a ring pop glued to your head with a shitty texture swap.
Shock and surprise.

>>57928959 (OP)
>implying plazz megaslops are returning

>>57929110
I don't know either. I was a decent enough bandaid to fix powecreep by continually giving it to shitmons like Mawile, Camerupt, etc.

>>57928959 (OP)
>Megashit
>Mainstay
Will be immediately vaulted to champions hell like the rest of the gimmicks.

Megas seem to stir up a lot of anger, too.

>>57929020
/thread

>>57929187
YW fucking mindbroke them.
They literally had meetings about it, as seen in the Teraleak.
The universal gimmick meme is shit too. And that one I have no idea why they decided to keep pushing for. Just makes them all feel generic and boring and, well, not special at all.
There's a reason no one cares about G-Maxes despite them being new designs, that everyone can mememax anyway takes away from them, it's uniqueness with the depth of a puddle.

>>57929312
Terastallization is admittedly decent. Personally, I don't like the double STAB, but eh, it's still a big improvement on the universal gimmick feature. Although Megas still blow everything out of the water.

Seen Wolfe's last video on Dynamax and I can't believe that idiot has the gall to claim that ANY mon being able to double its HP, attack with 3 Z-moves per battle, and at the same time raise stats for BOTH it and its ally was less broken than ONE mega per team..

>>57928959 (OP)
>to see mega evolutions become a beloved mainstay of Pokemon
It was always beloved.

>kaloskids still think they are getting any new megas in za
this is advenced delusion

>>57929187
both of those Pokémon would have been better off with real evolution like kingambit

>>57929395
You have 31 more days to keep coping

>>57929350
Wolfe liked mememax because it fit his playstyle and how risk-free it is as a whole and he's all about risk management. Also, because he obviously won't be truly talking shit about his now employers, Mr Merriku style.
If Wolfe played Singles he'd be a massive stallnigger for those same reasons.

People cry and shit themselves over Megas being "broken" but then you look at the power creep of Gen 8 and Gen 9 and all these normal Pokemon who can still use their item no fucks given shit on 90% of Megas in terms of being broken.
If people thought Megas were broken and centralizing back then they have no fucking idea. Imagine Megas being made with today's sensibilities. Imagine something like fucking Mega Urshifu.

>>57929421
>three trailers in
>preorders already open
>the only leak related to new mega evolution was debunked by the game boxart
>she still think there's any chance left for le long starmie to be real
lol

>>57929460
31 days

you had 1 year

>>57929399
Kingambit is amazing because Bisharp was already good, there wasn't any need for a huge stat overhaul or ultra broken ability. A Mawile evolution only get around 100 BST increase and would definitely not be given Huge Power.

>>57929440
Not being able to hold items is a hug demerit. You'll always know exactly how fast a mega is, and can calculate damage roles with perfect precision. And 95% of the time, you'll know which is the mega at team preview. I can never understand why people still think they were broken at any point (Fug not withstanding).

>>57929628
The Mega CHARIZARDs, Mega Kangaroo, Mega Maw, and Mega Fug were broken, the rest were reasonable to mid to downright laughable. But since the broken ones were the ones that matter most since megas actively compete with each other for a slot, so people feel for apex fallacy and assumes Megas as a mechanic were broken. In reality megas as a mechanic could never be broken because they’re not a mechanic, just a group of shillmons (or Pokémon elevated to shillmons) who were allowed to go supersaiyan

>>57928959 (OP)
am I being gaslit here?
I dont recall anyone on /vp/ advocating for gigantamax or if there were any it was only ever a small minority

>>57928959 (OP)
>and forcing people to like gigantamax
that never happened

>>57929008
>this unaware
Yeah, it's going to be included in the mobileshit game Champions, like the rest the spin-offs that feature them still. Only issue is Champions is confirmed to work on rotation, so it's incredibly likely ME and Terastalisation get rotated out for Z-Moves and Dynamax in S2. It's also a bit facetious to use the Japanese pokémon website for any kind of western theory, given they're literally telling kids who weren't around 12 years ago what ME is. I mean, they still have the page detailing Gigantamax forms and acquiring shiny pokémon in SS up on the international website but as you and I both know Gmax and brilliant aura spawns went in the bin in Gen 9 for Terastralisation and outbreak/shiny sandwich spam.

>>57929671
Also if megas are truly coming back in full force turn G-max forms into megas gamefreak

>>57929110
>why did game freak not keep doing something that wouldn't be a gimmick any more
Because the concept of it was never to be a premanent retarded power-up, but one they could throw in the bin in favour of a new flashy to entertain new 7 year olds, the core market of the games.

>>57929688
Little did they expect their first try at it to be something that people have been really wanting to see come back.

>>57929460
>"don't you get it, there's no paradox pokémon iin SV. if there was they would have revealed them by now, june '22"
This is what you sound like sweetheart.

>>57929661
>glalie
>waile
>sharpedo
>shillmon
Mods, this anon has clearly lost their sense of reason and reality.

>>57929683
>Also if megas are truly coming back in full force
They're not, you stillborn calf. They're being added to Champions when it launches, to keep the core games free of faggots squealing for them to return. Or did you not see that filthy big ad they ran at the last Presents revealing its existence to the world, where they featured a battle betrween a Mega and terastralised pokémon?

>>57929695
Anon, the percentage of people who comment on the internet are but 3% of the entire human interactions with the internet. Meaning regardless how loud the internet gets, they'
re A) not speaking for the casual masses and B) due to how the internet works (including this site) to own an internet account or post on it in some description, you need to be 13 years or older (4chan's 18's remember). Meaning there's no actaul pocket of target demographers to claim they want the return of Anon's childhood gimmick, because the current set are only meeting it and the internet's so far outside the demographic as to be irrelevant.
A few autistic bastards had convinced theirselves the pokémon boycott was working before Gen 8's launch, until SS released and the casual masses of normalfag cunts they couldn't comprehend bought 6.5m copies in 3 days. Small wonder the 20-somethings of today repeat the errors of the 20-somethings of the turn of the '20's.

>>57929702
Unironically Hoeen Privilege. The bar for Hoenn Pokémon getting mega hit as much lower due to Hoeen being the Mega Region

Dynamax was never going to make it. They tried to "fix" Mega Evolution, not realizing that the rarity was a good thing.

>>57929682
> Champions is confirmed to work on rotation
THEN WHATS THE FUCKING POINT

>>57929728
What mental delusion are you spewing retard? The franchise doesn't consider Hoenn the mega region (unlike the FRLG remake, they decided to separate the Hoenn remake from the timeline, they still consider it FRLG/RSE > HGSS/DPPt > BW > BW2 > XY >SM/USM > SS > SV. That Journeys ignored the bullshit Heonn brought to the table and reiterated ME was initially discovered in Kalos and the fact the ME Hoenn references the OG universe just prove you didn't pay attention to the games 12 years ago (understandable, kids are retards who miss things).

>>57929661
>Mega Char Y
Any special wall, weather setter, Assault Vest, not that fast (100 SPE)
>Mega Char X and Kangaroo
Could be handled by any intimidate mon, physically bulky monster or ghost, not that fast (100 SPE)

>>57929739
TO SHUT DOWN SMOGON, YOU RETARDED LITTLE SHITBAG! Think about it, a battle engine sim when they never gave a shit before, all while a bunch of autistic faggots crow about being untouchable and cancering up the competitive. Smells like grounds for a cease and desist court-ordered shutdown. There's also the fact Dexit is a thing in the core games, so Ishihara's hardly gonna spend the cash to add NFE shitters to his game.

>>57929671
>>57929673
Not OP, but I remember people saying Dynamax should've been just limited to G-Max mons.

>>57929739
>NOOOOO! How am is supposed to play this pokemon game made exclusively for professional online battling if I can’t use unsalvagable shit like patrat or scovillain in my team?

>>57929758
>bro just make the mega evolution bootleg even more like mega evolution
no

Megafags are so obnoxious

>>57929836
cope shitsui. You’re just mad that unlike ZA your inferior legends game is stuck with regional replacements instead of the gimmick people actually care about

>>57929843
>Meanwhile said "replacements actually appear in games unlike gimmickshit that are stuck in certain games forever

>>57929739
To kill Showdown, that way they can try and hook, line, sinker more players into attending VGC events so they can siphon even more money out of their pockets with exclusive merchandise.

>>57929851
>Meanwhile said "replacements actually appear in games
of course they do. How are they supposed to publicly humiliate the original mon otherwise.
a pokemon with a mega can always stand on its own when it leave, a pokemon with a regional form will always live in it replacement shadow however

>>57929872
How do I use Alolan Muk in BDSP?

>>57929738
>not realizing that the rarity was a good thing.
That's retarded

>>57929872
>Stand on its own
>Banette,Mawile,Absol,Lopunny,Glalie and Kangaskhan are still worthless shitmons without the mega crutch

>>57929682
>Only issue is Champions is confirmed to work on rotation
Where

>>57929904
Banette absol and glalie are still shitmons even with mega forms

>>57930011
In the disclaimer text at the end of Champions' announcement trailer.

>>57930019
>pokemon obtained in champions can't be sent to home
the little interest i had in this just evaporated

>>57930045
Well duh, it’s a free spinoff game. What did you expect?

>>57928959 (OP)
Giving me gas to pokemon who don't have 3rd stages, effectively deleted their chances of getting them

>>57930056
Pokemon Go is free and gets to transfer to Home...

>>57930181
Go pokemon aren't real.

>>57930014
Almost like they needed actual permanent evos or even regional "replacements" to actually be permanently upgraded.

>>57930193
Realer than champions pokemon according to TPC/GF or whoever made this decision

>>57929739
>>57929866
They're greedmaxxing even further beyond. Something's gotta break.
>>57929753
>Ishihara's hardly gonna spend the cash to add NFE shitters to his game
No permanent Little Cup, no download.

>>57929688
Delusional.
Not a single person in the whole wide world expected Megas to get dropped. No one back then thought as Megas as a "gimmick" but as a new permanent fixture in the franchise.
But sure keep pretending this was a ten layers keikaku and not YW mindbreaking them.