Your life would still be SHIT if you lived in the Pokémon universe.
No one likes you enough to give you a starter. Even if you somehow stole a pokemon, it would never respect you and it’d run off to the wild. You’d be a resentful nopokemon fat guy freak stuck in his hometown. An inpless (involuntarily pokemonless).

I feel so sorry for people like OP.
Imagine being such a loser than not even in his thoughts, in his imagination, his wildest fantasies, he cannot imagine himself being happy and successful and fulfilling all his dreams and more. Instead, he thinks himself the loser he is IRL, and is such a loser that he thinks everyone else is just like him, a sad crab in a bucket.
I hope you can find peace someday, OP.

People in the pokemon world are always super kind toward almost anyone that isn't a villain and so are the pokemon

>>57931021
You have no FACTS, which is why you resort to ad hominems. Here are some FACTS:
>no Pokémon would willingly want to be your friend
>no one would like you enough to give you a starter
>even if you somehow got a pokeball, you’d risk being (further) disfigured during every encounter
>reaching the safari zone without a starter is impossible
>you’d most likely stay home and cry about your problems online

NOTHING would change if you were in the Pokemon world. People on /vp/ shouldn't use pokemon for escapism, since their lives would be just as bad if they lived in that universe.

>>57931024
Women in this world are always super kind to almost everyone that isn't a weird incel freak, and almost everyone has a girlfriend.
Where is yours?

>>57931030
what if im gay?

>>57931032
>>>/lgbt/
You're also not allowed to adopt a male Pokemon.

>>57931026
>Even more projection
I accept your concession.

>>57931062
My opinion is based on the Pokemon canon. Prove to me with canon arguments that you would be allowed to own a Pokemon.


News flash: you would NEVER be allowed to own a Pokemon, just like you can't get a girlfriend right now, even though everyone has one.

>>57931063
what about all the trainers you battle during the game?

>>57931067
These are normies. Normal people with friends would be allowed to get a starter.

Have you seen a trainer that's a disgusting, evil, friendless, weird, 4chan-dwelling freak? No, because these people are a security risk and would never be allowed to own a Pokemon. If you gave a female Gardevoir to this board, 95% of them would end up raped, and another 1-2% would be used in terror attacks.

>>57931063
>My opinion is based on [fanfiction, headcanon and schizo babble]

>>57931076
literally even criminals in universe have pokemons like team rocket etc lmao
and the principle of pokemon is you literally CATCH pokemons, even if you're a retard with no pokemon you can just catch them in the wild

>>57931097
Criminals in real life get girlfriends. You don't.
Criminals in real life are cool, have friends, etc, and generally do not hurt people indiscriminately.
Weird creepy silent incels like those on /vp/ are a danger to broader society, since they rape their pokemon or use it in a terror attack. They would never be allowed a starter/

And you cannot enter a battle without a starter.

>>57931091
Point to one (1) character in a Pokemon game that was allowed to have a Pokemon, but was a friendless pedo creepy angry freak, like the /vp/ regulars.
You are just unable to disprove my arguments. No one would give you a Pokemon, tranny.

>>57931120
>Point to one (1) character in a Pokemon game that was allowed to have a Pokemon, but was a friendless pedo creepy angry freak, like the /vp/ regulars.
Typhlosion

>>57931120
>Criminals in real life get girlfriends. You don't.
>Criminals in real life are cool, have friends, etc, and generally do not hurt people indiscriminately.
>Weird creepy silent incels like those on /vp/ are a danger to broader society, since they rape their pokemon or use it in a terror attack. They would never be allowed a starter/
>
>And you cannot enter a battle without a starter.
i do though
also do you really think normies are all friendly people with no vice whatsoever? do you even talk to normies? pedophiles are almost always normies shitters with wives and families

>>57931128
The tranny you married is just a man in a dress, chaser.
Even if normal people have vices, these are innocent ones, like drinking a bit too much, or being lazy. The vices of /vp/ regulars are pedophilia, bestiality, rape and seething hate towards society. They are the bulliedfags that end up causing public safety incidents at schools.

No one on /vp/ would be allowed to own a pokemon.

>>57931134
no she's not, and i'm not married either lmao
but i'm also not a vp regular and not into pedo bestiality and rape if that helps

>this bait still gets used
>and people still take it
everyone involved in this thread should commit seppuku

>>57931137
Then you don't belong here, and you would likely get a pokemon. I invite you to look at the catalogue, check 10 OPs at random and think: of the people that posted these, how many would be allowed a Pokemon?

>>57931152
I'm still the same person making these threads from back in 2022. No one has refuted them so far, so I will keep making them until I get an answer.

>>57931009 (OP)
The world of Pokémon would allow for more opportunities for the average person, reducing the need for NEETdom.

>>57931169
Assuming you're White and living in a Western country, you have more opportunities than in any other society in the history of humanity. Do you have a girlfriend and a fulfilling life? If not, you've squandered them because you're fundamentally a hated freak, and it would be no different even if the number of opportunities increased.

>>57931162
i only come here for the ptcgp threads because a normie friend got me playing it but I don't think there's anything special about the op threads here, they talk about pokemons i guess? maybe the pokegirls threads are a bit weird but that's what you'd expect from a pokemon board

>>57931172
>yeah bro these threads are totally normal
>>57930202
>>57930330
>>57861269
>>57921597
>>57912553
>>57916174

Imagine someone showing professor Oak (or a school teacher) this board, and telling them that you made or participated in one of these threads. Do you think he'd give you a Pokemon?

>>57931024
I am an involuntary villain

>>57931182
>He doesn't like pokemon girls
What are you? Gay? Or female?

>>57931063
>Stephanie's father gets upset seeing Treeko on its own and asks if it's too late for him to take Treeko and start as a trainer, to which Nurse Joy assures him it's not
Sounds like anyone who didn't start as a trainer as a kid can absolutely get a pokémon and start off on a journey as a trainer regardless of their age in later life. Meaning, I'd absolutely be able to start off as a trainer, if I somehow woke up in the pokémon world.
You really should stop projecting your own inherent failures on something that resists being equated to Anon's experience of the real world.

>>57931009 (OP)
This >>57931024

The Pokemon world is so safe, tween kids can go on solo journies and the worst thing that can happen is a wild Rattata appears.

>>57931009 (OP)
Explain Cyrus' Crobat

>>57931009 (OP)
You can just buy Pokeballs in any town. They cost about as much as four bottles of water. Low level Pokemon aren't remotely dangerous to a grown man, and could be easily caught.

>>57931182
I haven't even opened any of these. Where's my free 'mon?

>>57931009 (OP)
>Your life would still be SHIT if you lived in the Pokémon universe.
Assumption. And most likely projection. And that's really what your whole post seems to be. The Pokémon world is better than ours in many regards.
>No one likes you enough to give you a starter.
Getting a First Partner Pokémon is as simple as asking for one from those that provide them.
>Even if you somehow stole a pokemon
Not really necessary to do that. Even without a Pokémon, there's still easy ways to get a Pokémon. For example, just buy a Poké Ball and be nice to a nearby high Catch Rate Pokémon.
>it would never respect you and it’d run off to the wild.
Well that wouldn't be surprising in the case of stealing one, but even then some Pokémon still choose to stay. Not that this matters because of the previous point.

>>57931021
This. FPBP.

>>57931026
>no Pokémon would willingly want to be your friend
The Wild Pokémon are usually Pokémon seeking out humans to be their Trainer. The higher the Catch Rate for a species of Pokémon, the lower standards they have for what human they want.
>even if you somehow got a pokeball, you’d risk being (further) disfigured during every encounter
What do you even mean by this? That the Pokémon will do said disfiguring? If the Pokémon isn't interested, they'll just leave. Nearly all Pokémon avoid harming humans in any serious manner.

>>57931076
Not everyone starts with a First Partner Pokémon. Getting Pokémon is easy, getting specific ones you want and keeping them is a different matter. Young children and criminals are able to own and get the respect of Pokémon.

>>57931480
Stephanie's father is a normal person, not a disgusting incel one bad day away from being a public security risk. Picrelated is what you look like to normies. Normies would never give a pokemon to (You).

>>57931242
You're a pedophile, and you further illustrate my point: you'd never, EVER EVER get a Pokemon.

>>57931498
Only kids with a starter are allowed to go on solo journeys. You'd never get a starter.

>>57931507
He's mean, but he's successful, and he's definitely not an incel freak like you.

>>57931549
>Low level Pokemon aren't remotely dangerous to a grown man
Source? Even trying to catch a Geodude is like trying to catch a frenzied, fast wild animal with rabies with your bare hands. Here's how it would go:
>You encountered a wild Geodude!
>You have no Pokemon!
>You used a Pokeball!
>Geodude broke free!
>Geodude used Tackle!
>Your skull is fractured! You are prone! You are paralyzed from the pain! You are bleeding internally! You blacked out!

The world would probably be full of unfuckable freaks like you that got permanently maimed by trying to 'cold approach' a wild Pokemon, when they didn't even have a starter. It's a numbers game bro just keep trying and never give up kek

>>57931617
>yet more projection
Good job I'm none of those things either. But I learned to socialise with other humans, due to not being born mentally deficient like you. You'll never be a normal, but you are not the world and we are not all like you. Sorry your mental impairment blinds you from seeing that.

>>57931600
> The Pokémon world is better than ours in many regards.
Yes, but (You) are the same, and enough of a freak to be excluded in any reasonably conceivable world.

> Getting a First Partner Pokémon is as simple as asking for one from those that provide them.
For normal people, it is, The unlovable freaks that frequent /vp/ would be a risk to their Pokemon and broader society, and there's no way they'd be allowed to have one. Would you give a Pokemon to someone that wants to fuck it or who hates the world and everyone in it?

> For example, just buy a Poké Ball and be nice to a nearby high Catch Rate Pokémon.
You would get maimed trying to do that. It's like fighting a wild animal with your bare hands.

> but even then some Pokémon still choose to stay
Most people here can't even get a girlfriend that respects them, when all normal people have that. Why would it be different with getting a Pokemon to respect you in the Pokemon world, where everyone has Pokemon?

> The Wild Pokémon are usually Pokémon seeking out humans to be their Trainer
That's absolutely untrue. They want to live in the wild and will fight or run if challenged. If they fight, you're in trouble.

> Nearly all Pokémon avoid harming humans in any serious manner.
This is a ridiculous assertion, how many times has Team Rocket been blasted in the sky? The problem is that if this were to happen to you, you would spaz out from the electricity and splat like a tomato to the ground.

> Young children and criminals are able to own and get the respect of Pokémon.
Children and criminals are able to get girlfriends in this world, but no one here has one. This is because the /vp/ crowd is repulsive, and would be no better off in the Pokemon world.

>>57931629
>it's all projection bro I'm totally normal
Then why are you posting in a board where >80% of the threads are focused on pedophilia in a children's cartoon? And on 4chan too, which is the e-congregation point of outcasts worldwide. You're not normal, and if anyone knew you were here, you'd be ostracised from civilised society.

>it stamps its feet harder and insists its mental delusion applies to us all
Nah, still not true Spergie. Enjoy the rest of your miserable existence thinking you're less than dogshit on someone's shoe.

>>57931802
You got utterly BTFOed, point by point, which led to this pathetic concession of calling me a sperg.

To re-iterate:
Your life would still be SHIT if you lived in the Pokémon universe.

>>57931617
Just because you'd lose a fight against a Geodude doesn't mean anyone else would. I can use Tackle too, and I weigh seven times as much as Geodude.

>>57931009 (OP)
You can just buy Pokemon, you know.

>this thread again

>>57932157
In what mainline game can you buy Pokemon in your home town?

>>57932155
>I would totally win hand-to-hand combat with a frenzied sentient boulder bro
Geodude would tackle your head, which would split open like a watermelon! CLONG!

>>57932170
It is only posted 1/year.

OP is on to something. NPCs lose all the time. It's only the main character who gets to have a free starter and fun adventures.

>>57932403
I mean look at these dysgenic subhumans and try to convince me they would have a "better life" in the Pokemon universe.
The average /vp/edo looks even worse.

>>57932403
Yeah but at least NPCs have a Pokemon. Hell, even the absolute fucking weirdos like Super Nerds and Poké Maniacs get Pokemon, and they're about on the same level as these fuckers
>>57932444
Seriously, look up those trainer classes and tell me there's a god that would willingly let them have Pokemon aside from Arceus.

>>57931009 (OP)
>Your life would still be SHIT if you lived in the Pokémon universe.
If I was somehow in Galar or Paldea, yes.

>>57931063
How about you "prove to us with canon arguments" all the claims you make. You haven't done that yet.

>>57931009 (OP)
They'd probably have pokemon games in the pokemon world for introverted people to simulate too so it wouldn't be all bad

>>57932510
Here is my argument:
In the real world, everyone can get a girlfriend to love and trust them. Except from you, because you're a weird disgusting freak.
In the Pokemon world, everyone can get a Pokemon that to love and trust them. It will be similar. You won't be able to, because you're a weird disgusting freak.

The world would change but you wouldn't. The people that come on /vp/ are subhuman freaks and would be rejected by any sort of society, with Pokemon or not. You would NEVER, EVER EVER EVER be allowed to have a starter. And without a starter, you cannot catch any other Pokemon.

>>57931617
>>Your skull is fractured! You are prone! You are paralyzed from the pain! You are bleeding internally! You blacked out!
Yep, just like in the games. If you're out of pokemon in a wild encounter, you just fucking die.

>>57932539
>everyone can get a girlfriend
That's not even true in the Pokemon world, ergo that's a false equivalence.
>And without a starter, you cannot catch any other Pokemon.
Also untrue, as seen in any Hoenn title where Wally just goes out and catches a fucking Ralts in one shot despite having every disease.

>>57931617
>He's mean, but he's successful,
Why would a Pokémon care about that
>and he's definitely not an incel freak like you.
He absolutely is an incel, as opposed to me btw but that's not even important

>>57932545
In the game, your Pokemon takes the final hit and faints. If you don't have Pokemon, you take that hit. Imagine if you took a max-speed Tackle from a Geodude to the head. We can simulate that by me throwing a brick to your faggot face.

You can't even think in hypotheticals, how dumb are you? How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?

>>57931642
>Yes, but (You) are the same, and enough of a freak to be excluded in any reasonably conceivable world.
Making more assumptions about us I see. It's a recurring thing with you.

>be a risk to their Pokemon
How? According to you. Pokémon have behaviour so animalistic that they'd be highly likely to want to disfigure a human.

>and broader society
Oh I'm sure you have plenty of reason to think this, as in more assumptions about us.

>someone that wants to fuck it or who hates the world and everyone in it?
Neither are the case for me. In fact on the former, I regularly tell people on the board that the franchise is not in support of human X Pokémon.

>You would get maimed trying to do that. It's like fighting a wild animal with your bare hands.
I'm not saying to try to fight a Wild Pokémon without a Pokémon. I just said to show kindness to one of a high Catch Rate. Maybe offer a Berry or something.

>Most people here can't even get a girlfriend that respects them, when all normal people have that. Why would it be different with getting a Pokemon to respect you in the Pokemon world, where everyone has Pokemon?
It's so bizarre, your logic with this. Also getting a Pokémon is a much different matter than getting a girlfriend, why are you trying to equate them? Given what you say about Pokémon behaviour.

>They want to live in the wild and will fight or run if challenged.
There's two kinds of Wild Pokémon, the ones that stay away from humans due to wanting to stay in the wild like you said, and the other are ones seeking humans to be their Trainer. We rarely see the former group.

>Team Rocket been blasted in the sky?
They're villains. And practically unharmed after it happens.

>you would spaz out from the electricity and splat like a tomato to the ground.
Because humans of the Pokémon are clearly different. Also, cartoon gag-logic.

>>57932539
> Says his arguments are based in canon
> Arguments are based on fantasies he came up wth both about the real world and the pokemon one

Nice one. I get you want more people to relate to, but we're not all self-hating schizos

>>57932557
The problem here is that you can't think in any hypotheticals except the four and a half specific ones that you're clutching to

>>57931030
You haven't listened to a woman, have you? They're all vile, spiteful husks.

>>57932554
>That's not even true
Literally everyone I know has a girlfriend. If you aren't able to manage to get a single person to love you, it wouldn't be any different with getting a Pokemon to love you.

>Also untrue, as seen in any Hoenn title
Okay bro, just try to catch what is essentially a frenzied rabid animal on your own. Hey FAGGOT! What happens if the Ralts breaks out of the first ball you threw, FAGGOT? You would get Psybeamed and your brain would turn to liquid. You'd be completely mentally raped and lobotimized. I already discussed this btw: >>57931617

>>57932539
>And without a starter, you cannot catch any other Pokemon.

Safari Zone

>>57932577
How would you get to the Safari Zone without a Pokemon?

>>57932561
In all the canon games, when you encounter a wild pokemon, a battle starts. So unless you're able to explain how you'd get your first pokemon without a high risk of getting maimed by trying to fight pokemonless, your points are moot.

>>57932562
What is a fantasy? Everyone has a girlfriend, and it's incredibly easy to get a person to love you, for most people it happens accidentally. But /vp/ fags are so unlovable and defective they'd never get a girlfriend or a Pokemon to love them.

>>57932568
That's not true.

>>57931009 (OP)
Keep telling yourself that I guess, I’ll be over here chillin with my gf and my Rockruff
>>57931021
/thread

>>57932572
>Literally everyone I know has a girlfriend
I don't care about you saying shit that might not even be true, read the rest of my quote that says "in the Pokemon world", where a ton of people are single and some even complain about it.
>on your own
Again, read my post better. You know who else is there when they catch a Pokemon? You, the player, who has a Pokemon. If there's anything I know about incels, it's that they live with their mom, and according to your logic their mom would be capable of catching a Pokemon, therefore their mom would be able to help them catch a Pokemon. Or some random person, people in the Pokemon universe are notoriously generous for the worst fucking reasons.
>>57932586
>But /vp/ fags are so unlovable and defective they'd never get a girlfriend or a Pokemon to love them.
So you're saying that it would be impossible for somebody who spams threads about a single Pokegirl constantly and also hits the post limit on Twitter doing the exact same shit to have a girlfriend? It's not even hypothetically possible?

>>57931026
>>57931009 (OP)
>We are going to debate your life if you somehow were transported to a alternate dimension where the fictional world of Pokémon is how the world is and my assertion is that you are a incel and would be a incel in that world too.

No retard we aren't. you are a massive faggot and this isn't worth anyone's time.

>>57932586
>How would you get to the Safari Zone without a Pokemon?
Repels can be bought in literally every store and cost the same price as a can of lemonade from a vending machine.

>>57932586
>>57932611
Fun Fact: That's how Lillie gets around in the Alola titles. They cost less than five bucks too, so on top of the five buck entry cost to basically every Safari Zone that should be covered by neetbucks.

>>57931123
>Everyone who insults me is projecting
Meds now

>>57932586
>That's not true.
Oh now you deicde to not be dishonest?

>>57932592
No girls ever wants an obsessive stalker who share lewd pics of her online for him and his bros to fap to as their boyfriend thought.

>57931009
sage in all fields

>>57932589
You know I'm right. We are, what, 70 replies in, and NO ONE has been able to offer a convincing argument proving me wrong.

>>57932592
You are so stupid you are fundamentally incapable of understanding my main point. Can you even read?
To try to catch a wild Pokemon, you need a starter. No one would give you a starter, because you're an ugly incel freak. And you're not going to "befriend" any Pokemon: wild ones fight you when you approach them according to the canon, and even if you somehow got a starter Pokemon it would never respect you, just like women don't respect you because you're an ugly friendless freak.
This leaves you starterless and pokemonless. Until you can demonstrate a way that you would get your first pokemon, you are INVOLUNTARILY POKEMONLESS.

>>57932606
>I'm on /vp/, looking at half-naked images of underage cartoon girls I'd like to fuck, and of fictional bunnies I'd like to rape, but I'm totally normal guys!

>>57932611
>>57932617
There are always obstacles between the starting town and the Safari Zone, e.g. trees that need to be Cut. There's no getting around you needing a Pokemon.

>>57932654
Women are great if you're a winner. They rightfully reject you if you're a loser. And everyone here is a loser, that would get no girl or Pokemon.

>>57932680
Why? You have no arguments. Cry more. At the end of the day, I am right and you are wrong.

>>57932791
I'm still waiting for a reply bro
>>57932555

>>57932797
>Why would a Pokémon care about that
Do you think Pokemon are okay with being led around by defeated subhuman losers? They literally won't respect you or do anything you say if you don't have enough badges.

>He absolutely is an incel, as opposed to me btw but that's not even important
He is not. Women that play Pokemon "ship" him either with themselves or with Cynthia (their self-insert). He is a powerful leader. You are a weak freak that plays cartoon games for babies well into his adulthood.

>>57932130
Sorry spergie, your mental delusions have no power over me. I abide by canon and sperg fuckers who hate themselves aren't in charge of it, even if you think you are.

>>57932832
The only thing you abide by is your need for unrealistic escapism. I accept the concession. I won and you lost.

>>57931009 (OP)
Sorry you feel that way.
I believe that no matter what, anyone has a place in the world, even if it doesn’t seem like it at the moment.

I’m sure if you were in there, if you got screwed over, someone in team star or team skull would recruit you, and you’d make nice memories with people in the same position as you.

>>57931021
/thread

>>57932849
There is no place for dejected, subhuman men like those that frequent this board. The closest thing to a "place" for them is in the front lines of a war to be used as cannon fodder.
Team Skulls recruits cool criminals, not zoophiles, incels and loner freaks. The freaks that frequent /vp/ would never be accpeted in a gang, in real life or in the Pokemon world.
You would never have a Pokemon. Don't delude yourself.

>>57932852
No canon-based arguments, no opinion.

>n-no you CKANT
Already told you prick, I could because the universe isn't our real world, or your mentally unbalanced view of it either.
And they already confirmed oldfags can get a pokémon if they wish to start a journey and hadn't before. The actual question you should be asking is would I WANT to go to the pokémon world and no. There's too much tying me to the real world, too many'd miss me if I disappeared tomorrow. Which is again nothing like you, which makes it even sadder you're that mentally broken, you can't even imagine yourself being accepted in a fantasy.

>>57932826
>They literally won't respect you or do anything you say if you don't have enough badges.
That's not the same as being successful
>Women that play Pokemon "ship" him either with themselves or with Cynthia (their self-insert).
That doesn't make him not an incel retard

>yfw you realize that OP literally has a folder saved full of all the goofiest pokemon spergs and he’s trying to call you the loser here

>>57932791
>To try to catch a wild Pokemon, you need a starter.
Demonstrably untrue, as mentioned in the Hoenn example
>No one would give you a starter, because you're an ugly incel freak.
If you're assuming the above, demonstrably untrue because of the existence of the Super Nerd and Poke Maniac trainer classes and those dudes are fucking freak losers. Like, look at SV Poke Maniac, the most normal one, and tell me what the difference is between this faggot and the faggots you're posting.
>And you're not going to "befriend" any Pokemon: wild ones fight you when you approach them according to the canon
Demonstrably untrue in several cases, Wimpod being a notable example off the top of my head
>and even if you somehow got a starter Pokemon it would never respect you, just like women don't respect you because you're an ugly friendless freak.
Demonstrably untrue given Pokemon slowly adopt elements of their trainer, mentioned many times in lore, notably in a sidequest in USUM involving a criminals Oranguru.
It seems like every element of your hypothetical doesn't stand up under reality, much like your take on reality in general given we're all still here despite how upset you are. But I guess hypothetically you're retarded, projecting, and Indian, so whatever. Not everyone is Chris-chan, some might be Ulillillia.

>>57933637
Forgot to attach a useful image to my post, but try to tell me that this isn't a fucking incel loser way worse than almost anything you've posted.

>>57932955
>That's not the same as being successful
It's exactly the same.

>That doesn't make him not an incel retard
>You can still be an incel if women want to have sex with you.
Look up what "incel" means you moron retard.

>>57933073
No quick balls are ever sold in the starter town.

>>57933589
These are average Pokemon players. The average /vp/ visitor likely looks 20 times worse.

>>57933637
>To try to catch a wild Pokemon, you need a starter.
This is TRUE, and I already debunked the Hoenn example. Trying to catch a Pokemon without a starter is like trying to fight a wild frenzied animal with your bare hands. What happens if you get Tackled by a sentient solid rock (Geodude)? Your ribs would break, you'd get internal bleeding and you'd die.

>Super Nerds and Poke Maniacs have Pokemon, therefore I would get one
These trainers are 'eccentric', they are not disgusting dangerous freaks. Neither of them would attempt to rape a Gardevoir or Lopunny, which is a fantasy of 80-90% of this board, with multiple threads on this exact topic daily.

>Wimpod couldn't hurt me
>A twelve-kilo frenzied alien bug using Struggle Bug on me would do no lasting damage
You are utterly delusional. This thing would probably claw out your eyes.

>It is demonstrably untrue that Pokemon won't respect you if you're a loser
It is even a central plot point in the original anime, as well as a mechanic in every single game, that Pokemon won't respect you if you don't have enough badges. Being a criminal doesn't make you low social status, you can still be cool, have friends, a girlfriend, et cetera. Your social status is subzero as a /vp/ user, truly at the absolute rock bottom, since not a single person in the world respects you or cares about you. With your social status in the negatives, your Pokemon would 100% ignore you, and likely attack you and try to kill you (even though I cannot prove the latter).

>>57933839
If you think /vp/ users wouldn't be special main characters, why are you so obsessed with the starting town? Aspertia city is the only starting town to not be the smallest settlement in its respective region and even then it's one of the smallest cities and Postwick is the smallest settlement in the known pokemon world. Statistically, it would be more likely for someone to live in Saffron or Celadon city where they could easily go to the game corner and buy either an Abra for a bit over 20 bucks or a Clefairy for less than the price of Legends Z-A on switch 2 than Pallet town, a place with a population in the single digits.

>>57932795
>There are always obstacles between the starting town and the Safari Zone, e.g. trees that need to be Cut. There's no getting around you needing a Pokemon.

So are you holding people to NPC rules or player character rules, because you can't seem to make up your mind? Because you know modes of tranportation verifiably exist in the pokemon world and practically nobody but the player ever has any trouble getting anywhere, even when said characters have no pokemon. Canon of the games you can just drive to the safari zone. RSE literally opens with player in back of a moving van driving to starting town.

>>57933839
>It's exactly the same.
Absolutely not, you can see literal children get badges
>You can still be an incel if women want to have sex with you.
Yes because no one IN UNIVERSE wants to have sex with him
Your retarded fanfics do not count

Besides, what about Silver then? How does he have a Crobat? He's a seething loser with daddy issues

>>57931009 (OP)
>>57931021
How shitty is the average Puerto Rican Cynthia simps life in the pokemon world

>>57933839
>No quick balls are ever sold in the starter town

Not all people are born in the starter towns. There are kids/families in other towns. Why can't an incel be be born in Pastoria, etc?

Or it could just be delivered to your local PokeMart, kinda like HGSS

>>57931009 (OP)
Most all Pokemon are shown to be significantly stronger than their size shows, even a Magikarp can push a human's shit in. The things you can do with a Rattata and Beedrill are pretty spooky. It's like guns, you'd need someone else with Pokemon and a better opprotunity just to take out a terrorist who are using Pokemon themselves, other than firearms I don't see wny other way to fight back. So if I take my Beedrill and go deeper into the country to find some rarer species, maybe a Miltank or Volcarona, I'd be just as good if not better off than some starter pokemon.
>Even if you somehow stole a pokemon, it would never respect you and it’d run off to the wild
Dogs can imprint on new masters well, why not Pokemon?
What I want to know is the legality of catching/owning/training Pokemon without a government issued trainer's license.

>>57933927
>>57934569
>nooo I would just spawn in the most convenient place possible for me to get a Pokemon!
The CANON OF THE GAMES require you to spawn with your mom in the starter town. Hey FAGGOT! If you're willing to bend the rules so much, why not argue with me that you could be born as the son of a billionaire that is just given a thousand Pokemon?
I am talking about what would happen in the frame of the CANON OF THE GAMES. Not your retarded fanfics. You can't just spawn wherever you want.

>>57934008
Again, the CANON OF THE GAMES requires that there's obstacles between you and the Safari Zone. These retarded non-arguments sound like "hey instead of fighting wild Pokemon, why doesn't Ash just run them over with his truck to weaken them?". While there are cars in the Pokemon universe, you cannot do anything you want with them according to the CANON OF THE GAMES. If you want to talk about what would happen in your gay fanfiction go to another thread.

>>57934041
>no bro I went to the Pokemon universe and I asked every woman there if she wants to have sex with Cyrus, and they all said no so he's an incel!
Hey FAGGOT! If there's women in this world that would have sex with Cyrus, then, given that the Pokemon world is friendlier and better than ours, there's definitely women there that want him.

>Silver is an incel
>The son of a mob boss with extreme power is an incel
Are you hallucinating? Try finding an unfuckable, isolated, weak, pathetic ugly freak with a Pokemon, and then come back to me. You won't, because these types of subhumans remain involuntarily pokemonless.

>>57934641
Do you really think the dysgenic freaks that frequent this board would be allowed what is essentially murder weapons/weapons of mass destruction in the form of Pokemon? Of course not.

>>57934711
>The son of a mob boss with extreme power is an incel
Giovanni abandoned him you fucking retard

>>57931021
Fippy bippy

>>57934771
>Giovanni abandoned him you fucking retard
>This cartoon character is an incel because... HE JUST IS, OKAY?
>This somehow proves I would be able to get a Pokemon and have a better life, it just does!

>>57931076
>these people are a security risk and would never be allowed to own a Pokemon. If you gave a female Gardevoir to this board, 95% of them would end up raped, and another 1-2% would be used in terror attacks.

GSC team rocket members are allowed to own Pokemon and they are out here brutally abusing slowpokes
BW2 Team Plasma members are allowed to own Pokemon and they quite literally perform a terror attack

>>57931009 (OP)
id have a kirlia id rape every single day. everything else would change because i have a cute pokegirl on my dick all the time. and since 3dpd like you more when you rape and kill id have a hot gf as well who would hardly ever get my dick. mainly because my kirlia would evolve and stockholm syndrome fall in love with me and me and my gardewife would fet married and have little ralts running around that eventually evolve into cute and fuckable kirliaz

>>57934825
You are picrelated.

>>57934809
These are cool criminals with high social status. Mafia leaders and members also get girlfriends that love and respect them irl. Incels don't have anyone that loves and respects them, be it a woman or a Pokemon.

>>57934834
You would never get a starter pokemon. Even if you got a Krilia, the moment you tried to abuse it it would Psychic you and turn your brain to mush. You'd spend the rest of your days as a brain-damaged drooling retard.

>57934841
>Fallacious arguments are valid because... they just are okay?

>>57934841
>cool criminals with high social status
Ah yes the cool and respectable status of got their asses handed to them by a child so badly that most people’s reactions to them are “didnt you guys disband 3 years ago”

>>57933839
>central plot point in the original anime
Not relevant
>as well as a mechanic in every single game, that Pokemon won't respect you if you don't have enough badges
Only applies to traded Pokemon until what the Switch titles? And even then that's only because they're open world.
>since not a single person in the world respects you or cares about you.
Literally untrue, people come here all the time to find leaks even when they're blatantly fucking fake.
Also, you keep posting this guy like he doesn't at least have friends
https://x.com/MichaelderBeste/status/1840784006243140047
If we go by your logic here >>57931076
>Normal people with friends would be allowed to get a starter.
Then he's qualified to have a starter Pokemon. Furthermore, I imagine a lot of people on here have some sort of friend. Hell, there's probably a couple of people on here that have girlfriends, although I imagine there are a lot more people with boyfriends given how gay /vp/ can be and the fact that historically /vp/ had a large female population. And again, one of the worst posters on the board is fucking married, which is baffling even to me who's somewhat of an optimist. You're so blackpilled you'd probably kill yourself if some incel was in a reasonable relationship because it would fucking shatter your worldview.

>>57934875
>central plot points of the original anime and canon mechanics of the switch games are irrelevant because... because they JUST ARE
>you're wrong, this dysgenic sperg has a lot of friends, for example look at this image from a year ago of him with two mystery meat gay Pakistanis! This proves I can get a Pokemon!
>Yeah bro almost everyone here is a normal person with friends, ugh, just don't pay attention to this >>57934834
You are a FAGGOT STRETCHING to fit your HEADCANON. If you have a canon explanation on how you would acquire ANY POKEMON when spawning in the starter town, as per canon rules, please let me know. You don't, because no one would give you a starter.

>>57934856
A drug dealer will always be more high status than an incel freak. A team rocket member will always be higher status than (You).

>>57934854
Keep crying out your made up gay fallacy memeterms, eventually you'll win kek

>57934914
Simple awnser then is just join team rocket and get generic rodent or snake mon :)
Seeing as in gsc they are desperate enough to take on literally anyone who applies

>>57934711
In the CANON OF THE GAMES, you would be just over eight times as likely to live in Celadon city versus Pallet town at worst, because Celadon city has 63 people at its lowest population while Pallet town consistently has a population of 8. IN THE CANON OF THE GAMES, you would statistically be more likely to be from Anville town, which is only connected to the rest of Unova by train, than be from Nuvema town (11 or 13 vs 10). IN THE CANON OF THE GAMES, you are at least three times as likely to not have a pokemon because you live in Cocona village where pokemon trainers aren't a thing than you would be to not be a trainer because you're stuck in Postwick (15-19 versus FIVE). If you played the games and genuinely think literally every character is from the extremely small starting towns you might genuinely be retarded.

>>57934940
Incels don't join gangs or cartels. They're too pathetic and cowardly.

>>57934943
IN THE CANON OF THE GAMES, there is NO POINT talking about the "CHANCE" for you to spawn in a big city, since you ALWAYS START FROM THE STARTER TOWN. You can keep calculating imaginary probabilities based on populations, but the FACT is that you don't spawn based on RNG, no roll takes place, you ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS start in the starter town.

IN THE CANON OF THE GAMES, there is an 100% CHANCE YOU SPAWN AT THE STARTER TOWN WHERE YOU LIVE WITH YOUR MOM.

Don't believe me? Open a game RIGHT NOW, start 50 new games, and see where you spawn and if that aligns with your faggot predictions, or with mine.

>57935024
In the CANON OF THE GAMES there is a 100% chance you get a starter Pokemon from the professor so the whole post is fucking stupid and pointless

>>57935052
You get a starter from the professor if you are a normal, likeable person. The games have never explored what would happen if a weird, unlikable, creepy, ugly, bullied incel freak (You) tries to ask for a Pokemon.

I explained to you what would happen, with CANON ARGUMENTS. You would stay alone, pokemonless and seething in the starter town. No one has been able to disprove this.

>>57935024
IN THE CANON OF THE GAMES, not everyone is from a handful of extremely small towns. If the average person was in the pokemon world, they would NOT be the main character, so it would be highly improbable that they would live in those towns. If we're assuming that they are in the starting towns because they are the main character, guess what? THE MAIN CHARACTER ALWAYS GETS A STARTER. You can't have your cake and eat it too, either this scenario has the hypothetical person be the main character and be from the starting town where they get a rare pokemon for free or they aren't the main character and are more likely to live in a major population center where they have access to more resources off the bat.

>57935089
>game logic only matters when i say it does otherwise its my own retarded headcanon
Honestly just pay for a prostitute if getting turned down causes you to have a crashout on a basket weaving forum

>>57931021
He's a shitposter that always posts this copypasta every 2 months

>>57935109
IN THE CANON OF THE GAMES, (You) are from the STARTER TOWN. READ THE OP. THE OP IS ABOUT what would happen if (You) lived in the Pokemon universe instead of this, according to Pokemon canon.

I'm not talking about the scenario which you mentally masturbated, where everyone in the real world has to spawn in the Pokemon universe and you have population-based chance to spawn in different cities. This is a different game. And if you want to play it that way, why start inserting yourself at birth? Try self-inserting as a sperm in your Pokemon world dad's balls, competing with all the other sperms for the egg, if you actually get ejaculated in a fertile pussy.

The scenario I am talking about is the CANON SCENARIO of Pokemon escapism, in which you wake up IN YOUR ROOM IN THE STARTER TOWN, but instead of being a loved person, you are YOURSELF. You are a subhuman freak. And then imagine what would happen when you asked for a Pokemon. I argue that you'd get NONE, because of who you are. Oak doesn't know you're the "main character", he just sees you, and you don't deserve a Pokemon.

Look at picrelated (CANON START) and PROVE TO ME that you would be able to get a Pokemon if it was you in the image.

>OP is a shartranny
Of course.

>57935174
>you spawn in place of the main protagonist except projection projection projection projection projection projection projection projection projection projection projection projection projection projection projection

>57935174
Go on computer, order pokeballs on mail order.
>But thats not...
We have seen multiple items be delivered via mail to the protagonists house in multiple games, case in point the pokegear in that very game you chose.

Which speaking of which good job choosing literally the worst possible example given thats the game the rival just steals his starter from the professor.

>>57935233
If you tried to capture a Pokemon without having a starter, you would get maimed. Even trying to catch a Geodude is like trying to catch a frenzied, fast wild animal with rabies with your bare hands. Here's how it would go:
>You encountered a wild Geodude!
>You have no Pokemon!
>You used a Pokeball!
>Geodude broke free!
>Geodude used Tackle!
>Your skull is fractured! You are prone! You are paralyzed from the pain! You are bleeding internally! You blacked out!

Regarding stealing a Pokemon, the most likely outcome of you doing that was described in the OP. I have thought of everything, there is no possible scenario in which you end up with a Pokemon.

Back up your choices with arguments or find a different way.

>>57935174
IN THE CANON OF THE GAMES, (You) play as the main character. You spawn in the starting town because that is where the main character lives. Unless you have a reason why a random person who is NOT the main character, implied by the OP talking about living in the world of pokemon rather than being the main character, would be in the starting town that is completely divorced from the fact that you spawn in the starting town in a game where you play as the main character, it can be assumed that a random nobody who lives in the pokemon world would most likely not live in the starting town.

>>57935233
Same game aswell gives you the option of make your way to violet city Pokemon centre talk to primo give him a phrase which can be learned from watching his TV show and get a mareep, wooper, or slugma egg 3 cromulent choices for alternative starters

>>57935246
You are literally retarded, and I am not playing along with your headcanon of RNG-based spawning in a random city based on its population. If (You) were transported in a Pokemon game, (You) would start from the starter town. You can scream and kick your feet about that, but opening any game and starting a new game instantly proves me right about what is canon, and you wrong.

Either answer this (>>57935174):
>Look at picrelated (CANON START) and PROVE TO ME that you would be able to get a Pokemon if it was you in the image.
or accept defeat.


>>57935255
You can't leave the starter town without a starter. Wild pokemon may hurt and maim you.

>57935275
Id just run from the encounter to avoid getting maimed :)

>>57935275
>If (You) were transported in a Pokemon game, (You) would start from the starter town.
Why? Almost every starter town is extremely small and mostly insignificant beyond the main character living there. Is it because this hypothetical scenario has the person spawning in as the main character? If so, they would get a pokemon and a rare one at that, and then go on a fun adventure to become champion, completely shattering your doomer fantasy. If this hypothetical person wasn't the main character, what reason would they have to specifically be in the starter towns beyond games where you play as characters from those towns starting there?
>answer this (>>57935174 #):
>>Look at picrelated (CANON START) and PROVE TO ME that you would be able to get a Pokemon if it was you in the image.
If I was in that scenario, Professor Elm would have given me a choice of three rare pokemon to run an errand for him, starting a fun adventure where I become champion of two regions, because that would mean I would be the main character.

>>57935275
>You can't leave the starter town without a starter. Wild pokemon may hurt and maim you.
In the video games, Lillie can use repel to avoid every Pokemon well into the endgame. In HGSS, your mom can buy you one repel, which should be enough to get you most of the way to Violet City. If we go into Go for mechanics (or even just look at the Safari Zone in most games) Pokemon can be distracted by food fairly easily (in RSE's case, food made from berries explicitly), and guess what in HGSS your mom can buy berries too. It's a shame repels aren't readily available in Cherrygrove but it's something. It's hard but even fucking Forest Gump can run. Hell, if you really want to get into a spicy tech you can steal a Pokemon from Elm to get one shot at running away too. It doesn't matter if the Pokemon won't listen to you if you run away and leave it before it takes a single turn. Then you get the egg and have a Pokemon that definitely will listen to you because in HGSS all Pokemon listen to you unless they're traded. Using examples from video games we've got a scuffed example. Any incel that can make that gauntlet has become a man because that's a reasonable trek without any Pokemon. And if not yeah they're probably the kind of loser you think they are. That's life, survival of the fittest and all that. Hell, you might not even make that gauntlet, and in your hypothetical you're somebody that people actually like which given the way you're acting I cannot possibly believe.

>>57935312
>so, they would get a pokemon and a rare one at that, and then go on a fun adventure to become champion, completely shattering your doomer fantasy.
Not if (You) were that person. By virtue of you being on 4chan, and specifically on /vp/, I know you are such a deranged, ugly subhuman freak that (You) would be denied getting a starter for safety reasons. Even if you somehow got one (e.g. if you stole it), it would run away or completely disobey you almost immediately due to your low social status. Just like how you're not able to get friends, a girlfriend etc, even though everyone has these in the real world. If you had these irl, you wouldn't be on /vp/.

You are seriously retarded. Read the thread from top to bottom before posting your next reply, I am repeating the most basic points of the argument.

>>57935328
So if by being on /vp/, you're a friendless loser, why haven't you killed yourself yet? Or are you trying to claim you're normal despite being on /vp/?

>>57935316
To be fair a single repel from mom and one stolen Pokemon makes the trek to violet city pretty easy as theres only about 60 grass tiles you need to walk through from newbark and violet, route 29 has so few its feasible to get to cherrygrove without using either first patch on route 30 is the same thing then the rest of route 30 and 31 a single repel and a single Pokemon even if it wont listen to your commands will get you to violet especially if your smart and flee any encounters while returning your starter to its ball when your a safe distance from the encounter you could probably get away from a few encounters that way

>57935328
retard

>>57935345
I like problem solving, so this type of shit is my jam. And unlike that fucking weirdo who's incredibly insistent about shit that has zero basis in reality I've got actual examples to back up my bullshit even if it's extremely scuffed.

>>57935316
>>57935345
You make it to Violet with a Pokemon that you stole and that hates you due to your low social status, then you try getting your hands on some eggs and walk up and down like a spastic until they hatch. And then what? Congrats, you have your 2 Pokemon that hate you and would never do anything for you, and you are wanted by the law.

>OP: you would never get pussy
>(You): I would buy chloroform and rape someone
>(You): I like problem-solving haha
This is the brain of the average subtarded /vp/edo.

>>57935356
If you really wanted to make the trek easier you could start the trip on the date of a national tragedy like September 11 because that also decreases the encounter rate
>57935378
>you wouldnt start in a random town/city because game mechanics
>fuck game mechanics a Pokemon you hatched will hate you because you broke my narrative

>>57935378
>You make it to Violet with a Pokemon that you stole and that hates you due to your low social status
Not necessarily, if again you just leave that shit behind.
>that hates you due to your low social status
Is there any canonical example of this in any media? Preferably a game example, because if we're talking about, as you said in >>57935174
>IN THE CANON OF THE GAMES
we can't base your logic on anything else. At best you could say the Professor says "fuck no" based on whatever arbitrary reason, but we have a pretty good idea of how Pokemon adapt to whoever has them. Literally being the first thing a Pokemon sees will almost certainly cause the Pokemon to start taking after you, like the USUM Oranguru. For better or worse, it works, and now you have incel Slugma or whatever.
>>57935390
Ah yes, the 9/11 strat, who could forget that.

>>57935390
The moment your hatched sees your ugly dysgenic face (see any of the average Pokemon players I posted), you are already 3 steps behind. On top of that, you have no badges, you have no friends, you tricked your mother into enabling your plans, you kidnapped the only other Pokemon that you have, you are wanted by the law, and you're not even part of a gang. What Pokemon would obey you?

You'd probably be arrested anyway before it hatched. The police would be on the lookout for you after you stole the starter, and they know that you can't have gone far with just one shitmon. They would pull up in Violet and see an ugly spastic (You) walking up and down the same street 8h/day.

There's no way this would work.

>57935417
IN THE GAME CANON hatched Pokemon always have 120 friendship, higher than a wild pokemons base friendship (and in newer titles a majority of the way towards a friendship evo if it has one)

IN THE GAME CANON the police are useless and require the protagonist child of the region to do all their work for them which in your scenario doesn’t work as we have taken their place

>>57935433
>The police would NEVER catch me even though there's only one place I could be, it's five minutes away from the crime scene, and I'l walking up and down like a turbosperg
>The police can't uproot an underground crime syndicate in these games so this proves they'd never catch me!
Kek, keep coping. You'd just end up in jail, pokemonless.

If Xavier-sama can get Pokémon then so can the average /vp/edo desu

>57935469
>Interpol agent tracks down a different starter thief in official media
>makes no attempts to arrest the guy
Yeah Im thinking they’re useless

>>57932586
>In all the canon games, when you encounter a wild pokemon, a battle starts. So unless you're able to explain how you'd get your first pokemon without a high risk of getting maimed by trying to fight pokemonless, your points are moot.
Yes, a battle starts, a Pokémon Battle. A Pokémon Battle is different thing from a literal fight to the death, Wild Battles aren't the Pokémon trying to kill, they're the Pokémon trying to test you to see if you're worthy, or if they're worthy of you for the high Catch Rate ones. Pokémon aren't dumb animals, all species of Pokémon have human-level cognition at minimum. When all your Pokémon Faint in a Wild Battle, the player doesn't die or even suffer any injury. A Wild Pokémon won't try to "battle" a human, so not having Pokémon just simply means no Wild Battle at all. Not all Wild Pokémon even start a Wild Battle. When using Pokémon Camp in gen 8, Wild Pokémon can request to be caught, without a Wild Battle, they just get in a ball.

And how interesting you left out the rest of the points I raised against you in my previous post...

Making assumptions about us. And the fact you equate getting a girlfriend to getting a Pokémon, yet also say Pokémon are so animalistic that they'd be highly likely to want badly injure humans.

>>57931009 (OP)
If I lived in the pokemon universe I would rape pokehebes

>57935469
Lol they failed to catch an 11 year old who they had the physical description and name of who committed the exact same crime (multiple times might add, also stole other people's mons) and was making no attempt to hide directly challenging the fucking champion of the region, who works as law enforcement, and still never actually got caught! Cope harder the police are absolutely useless IN GAME CANON and you are a retard who chose the worst possible game to use as an example.

>>57931009 (OP)
Haha. Wrong retard. I'm pokemon master and have may as my wife. And there is NOTHING you can do about it.

>OP is obvious ragebait troll
>retards still reply
I hate summer

>>57935552
And yet you still bumped it

>>57931063
I own a dog. I can afford all expenses with no difficulties, and I fucking love my dog. You can buy pokemon in the same way in the pokeverse. Name 1 (one) suggestion from """"""""canon""""""" that suggests that I (myself) (me) cannot buy and own a Growlithe without resorting to projection and babble.

>>57931021
OP status: raped and gaped

So OP, if you think all that stuff you're saying would be the case if we were in the Pokémon world.

Then what you think about if we were instead Pokémon in the Pokémon world or the PMD world? What then? Let's see how the idea of being Pokémon instead of remaining human changes what you think things would be like for us there.

>>57931030
Chad and Incel are the only men that women are honest with.

>>57935476
This. Between Poké Maniacs and the FRLG "Gamers", who are literally weird homeless old man with no shoes who lost everything gambling, OP seems willfully ignorant of the fact that even the dregs of society canonically have and use Pokemon just like everyone else. You see this with the crustpunks of Orre in Colosseum as well. OP constantly screeches about canon evidence, yet there is a sore lack of canon evidence for the existence of an underclass of "Pokecels" who society has deemed unworthy of Pokemon. And when you consider that the first four gens all prominently feature little (like younger than the protagonist) kids running around in the tall grass with butterfly nets, that makes a lot of sense. If even a common caterpillar can be trained up into a 'mon that facerolls the level 10 shitters meta with Confusion, that's a world where it would be harder for a person to NOT go through life with a Pokemon at their side. It's so commonplace that the grandparents in The Slugma Powered Home literally have a fucking Haxorus just chilling in the backyard that they use for nothing more important than chopping firewood. Office workers, despite being based on specifically Japanese salarymen, who literally have no time in their lives for anything else and have an alarming tendency to work themselves to death IRL, somehow still make time to raise Pokemon. Ghetsis, perhaps the worst human being to exist in the entire setting, maintains a full, powerful, and loyal team of six.

And that's not even getting into the protection that the toon force provides you (exactly how many times has Professor Oak, also an old man, gotten yeeted in the Professor Oak bonus segments?) or the fact that the setting's anime art style would likely smooth out many of your physical imperfections... and I could quibble about what a blatant strawman OP's Geodude point is when there's absolutely no need to specifically head into a cave to get your first Pokemon... but you get the idea, I think.

OP is just trying and failing, to demoralise us here on /vp/ in an extremely specific way. It's so pathetic, but in a way also funny and fascinating, due to how stupid and specific it is.

>>57938471
It's VERY obvious that it's just a very pathetic attempt to make himself feel better. He deludes himself into thinking that others are even bigger losers than him, so he's not that bad in comparison (even though he's obviously a huge loser, considering he's obviously a very miserable person with too much free time). He uses the Pokémon setting so he can think his delusions about others cannot be disproven, but that's just cause Pokémon is a utopic setting that doesn't tell us about what happens to social outcasts. He uses that to his advantage for his made-up arguments.
It's just projection and copium of the highest degree. It's honestly sad to watch.

>>57935512
You would NEVER EVER EVER be allowed to have a Pokemon, or a girlfriend. You would be seething about the world in front of your computer in your hometown, while everyone else is having fun.

>>57935478
>>57935515
>In my headcanon the police can never solve any crime ever or do anything, I can break any law without being caught. I can steal a Pokemon, walk a five minute distance, run up and down a street like a sperg for hours to hatch eggs, and no one would suspect a thing!
You are RETARDED. Take your MEDS. And come up with a plan that follows the CANON.

>>57935593
Here is one suggestion. Everyone in the real world has a girlfriend that loves and respects them. You don't because you're an unlovable freak. Everyone in the Pokemon world has a Pokemon that loves and respects them. You wouldn't, because you're an unlovable freak.

>>57935688
>yet there is a sore lack of canon evidence for the existence of an underclass of "Pokecels"
These are children's games, your mere existence is so sordid that exposing 8 year olds to it is deemed improper. The existence of hated freaks is a necessity in every society that has a dominance hierarchy, whether real or fictional. You are at the absolute bottom of the hierarchy in this world, and you would be the untouchable underclass in whatever world you were dumped in, whether this is Pokemon or Star Wars. This is because of subhuman characteristics intrinsic to (You), and I know that you have them because you a) play Pokemon as an adult, b) post about it on /vp/.

The fact that adult Pokemon fans are subhuman is indisputable, you can verify it yourself by looking at the random sample of dysgenic adult Pokemon fans I posted.

>>57938534
150 replies in, no one has been able to look at this screenshot (>>57935174) and explain how they would get a Pokemon. If my arguments are all a 'made-up projection', why isn't there a clear way for you to get a Pokemon?
It is because I am RIGHT and you are WRONG. You can cry projection all you want, but this is FACT.

>>57938819
The proof you demand cannot be posted without someone revealing personal information, and you know that you miserable freak.
Go to therapy.

It looks like OP is truly running out of things to say.

>>57938819
Okay, so we can actually just completely ignore canon evidence and make up whatever rules we want, then. Fair enough, but what is the point of this thread then? You can postulate Pokecels based only on your own writing preferences all you want (and yes, saying that all societies must by necessity have untouchables because that's supposedly realistic is, in the end, merely a writing preference like any other), but I can postulate the opposite based on my writing preferences and that leaves us at an impasse.

As for how to get out of New Bark without a 'mon, people've already proposed a number of sensible solutions, but you reject them on the basis of ignoring canon evidence that, for example, Pokemon work with ne'er-do-wells all the time, in order to claim that a Pokemon will reject you if you're too ugly, which is NOT something supported by canon evidence, all while screaming about canon evidence. If I point out that your mum could easily acquire a Sandshrew from the Goldenrod Game Corner for you (even if we presume mothers to be useless at Voltorb Flip, 700 points costs 14,000 P in the Japanese version, so the rough equivalent of $140 of financial burden. Not that much considering you have a game console in your room) and further point out that at level 10 it would, by canon evidence, be obedient even without badges, you'll just claim we'd be too ugly despite there being no canon evidence of Pokemon rejecting humans for that reason, then turn around and demand more canon evidence on how we could get a Pokemon.

In other words, since you can make it up as you go, this isn't a rational debate based on logical reasoning regarding an agreed set of conditions, it's a playground fight. You're saying, "Nu-uh, you couldn't get Pokemon!" and we're saying "Uh-huh, we totally could get Pokemon!" and since canon evidence is inadmissible and your headcanons ARE admissible, there's nothing that can come out of this convo beyond that. So, I ask again, why are we here?

>>57931009 (OP)
You have a really bizarre perception of this fictional world. It's been shown on multiple occasions that, regardless of how competent or respectable you are, as long as you keep throwing Pokéballs at weak Pokémon, you'll eventually catch one, have the means to train it and gain its trust. The Pokémon world is designed to be a perfect fantasy, that's why even the most bitter and spiteful people and Pokémon in that world usually get some sort of consolation in one way or another.

>>57938819
People have retard. You just reply with your own head cannon that

>Well that method isn't available to an incel

So how the fuck are we supposed to argue with your retarded ass in this stupid ass argument.

>Eggs donated
>Game Corner pokemon you can but
>Fishing for a weak ass pokemon you can catch like a Magikarp that wouldn't be dangerous to a person

All not available. Okay then retard. Fuck off.

>>57940090
The lack of canon evidence regarding an underclass of Pokecels is related to the unwillingness of the medium to tackle such a dark theme, not to the fact that (You) would not be one if (You) were placed in the Pokemon world. The existence of "-cels", i.e. an underclass of dysgenic freaks that are excluded from the commons, is an inseparable part of human societies that transcends time, culture and thereby also thematic "worlds". You argue that this is simply a writing preference, and that such ugly realities can be written away when imagining a fictive world. This is essentially the argument this anon (>>57940484) makes too: the Pokemon world is idealised, ergo, Pokecels don't exist. However, by placing (You) in the Pokemon world, the world is suddenly forced to deal with such realities. You are a spastic, a sperg and a freak, and you could not be a normal part of society even if you wanted to. I know this because you post here, and because you most likely look like the random sample of adult Pokemon fan-spergs I just posted. If (You) were put in the Pokemon world, the people there would be forced to deal with that fact, and (You) would be rejected and excluded, just as (You) are rejected and excluded now.

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>>57940090
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Another way to think about it is this: could (You) commit suicide if you were placed in the Pokemon world, in this screenshot (>>57935174)? There is of course no canon evidence suggesting that suicide takes place in the idealised Pokemon world. Even the most dejected villains in the Pokemon world are not suicidal in the games and anime. But if it was (You) in the screenshot, what would stop (You) from jumping out of the window head-first and killing yourself if you wanted to? The answer is nothing, and (You) could do it, and then the people in the Pokemon world would be forced to deal with it. Similarly, if it was (You) in the screenshot, the world would be forced to deal with you being a loser and a freak that would abuse Pokemon (>>57934834) or underage girls (see catalogue), and you would never been given a starter, which would prevent you from getting a Pokemon in general due to the positioning of the starting town.

Regarding your mother going out of town to buy you a Pokemon, which is the only real argument you made: she is not a Pokemon trainer, she could not leave the starting town without a trainer to protect her. And no one would accompany her if the purpose of her travel is to find a way to get her freak of a son a Pokemon he may abuse. Even her 'buying a Repel' or 'buying you Pokeballs' is unrealistic, since there are no stores in the starter town. The structure of the starter town, and the Pokemon universe, requires that the local professor trusts you enough to give you a starter, which would never happen in a billion years. The only exception is Aspertia City in B2W2 with a Pokemart, but this is an edge case in all the canon and multiple things could still go wrong for you. The store owner would likely be aware of you, just like a small town gun shop owner would not sell an AR-15 to the "family with a crazy son down the street".

>>57940895
You are a FAGGOT, and an illiterate one at that.

>Eggs donated
Can't leave starter town without a starter.

>Game Corner pokemon you can but
What? Are you having a stroke?

>Fishing for a weak ass pokemon you can catch like a Magikarp that wouldn't be dangerous to a person
Good luck evolving a Splash-only Magicarp. And you would not be able to get Pokeballs anyways in the starter town.

>>57941197
>I know this because you post here
So you admit to being "a spastic, a sperg and a freak," who "could not be a normal part of society even if you wanted to?"

>>57941216
I only come here once a year to make fun of you, check the archives.

>>57941222
Ah, so even if we accept the idea that you aren't here all year (for which you have offered no evidence), being "here" does not prove one is "a spastic, a sperg and a freak," who "could not be a normal part of society even if you wanted to," because you ARE here sometimes, but believe you are not a social reject. I'm glad your own existence could disprove your theorem!

>>57941238
This thread is clearly aimed at /vp/ regulars and/or adult Pokemon enthousiasts. With my permission, if you visit /vp/ maximally once per year, you are hereby excluded from the scope of this thread.

This whole thread is based on OPs deluded headcanon that every single regular on /vp/ is a fat, ugly, friendless pedo NEET that is so repulsive that not even animals will like them. What does the retard want to hear or see? Am I supposed to post a pic of me hanging out with my friends? Scan my marriage certificate? Ask my boss to make a post here to tell him that I'm a normal, functioning human being?
This faggot just makes these autism fest threads so he can trick himself into thinking he's better than others. What a fucking loser.

>>57941408
>This whole thread is based on OPs deluded headcanon that every single regular on /vp/ is a fat, ugly, friendless pedo NEET that is so repulsive that not even animals will like them. What does the retard want to hear or see? Am I supposed to post a pic of me hanging out with my friends? Scan my marriage certificate? Ask my boss to make a post here to tell him that I'm a normal, functioning human being?
>This faggot just makes these autism fest threads so he can trick himself into thinking he's better than others. What a fucking loser.

>>57940895
Celadon Game Corner. You can buy Pokemon for the chips.
Also as others have said in game usage is repels. There is an item delivery service so even if someone was somehow locked into the first town they could still order repels and poke balls. Also not everyone is a trainer and they are able to travel so there is logically some sort of travel system available. Also has been explained the chances are someone would be born in a major population center.
Also with Magikarp you can buy and use rare candies.

And even then you seem to have forgotten one thing. It's our imagination. We don't need to agree with your faggot ass for one minute about how this shit works. May is my wife and my poke wife gardevoir is giving you a mental breakdown while I fuck May silly you cuckold retard.

Stay Mad.

>>57941408
its clear it struck a nerve given he gets 100+ replies each time

>>57942443
>May is my wife and my poke wife gardevoir is giving you a mental breakdown while I fuck May silly you cuckold retard.
Based af

>>57941210
>>57942443

>>57941197
>>57941204
So, yeah, you're completely abandoning any pretensions to "canon evidence" and just purely going off of your own opinion. That we would be so reflexively despised by everyone that not only would no one be willing to help us but they'd also keep our mother effectively imprisoned in the town just to prevent her kid from getting out is all purely opinion. Concession accepted, but once again it makes the thread seem a mite pointless in that case.

>>57941204
Also, it didn't take me long to find a canon example of suicide, specifically in XY135. Of course it was a fakeout, but the characters certainly BELIEVED Lysandre had killed himself when he jumped off Prism Tower. So far from the slam dunk you thought that argument was, it in fact doesn't strengthen your position at all. But hey, at this point you've clearly demonstrated that handling canon evidence isn't your strong suit, so I can't say it's off-brand for you.

>I'm unlikable and poor so everyone here is unlikable and poor, and has been that way for their entire lives
I've found that projecting on this level is very common among autistic retards, OP.

>>57941197
>>57941204
/vp/edo pokecels utterly btfoed

The moment you go outside and are about to touch long grass a pokemon professor would stop you in your tracks. Otherwise you would be killed by these creatures. If you don't listen to that pokemon professor, you will be torn limb from limb, and no amount of nurse joy will put you back together. You will get a pokemon, and you will train it.

>>57942467
I was willing to hear him out if he had a legitimate, facts-based argument, because I've found canon-based arguments about fictional settings interesting ever since the old Star Trek vs Star Wars days, when Robert Anderson would go at it with Michael Wong and Michael Ossus to determine who was the true alpha king nerd (spoiler: It was Anderson and the pro-Trek side). Sadly that isn't the case, because the facts simply do not support his position. We're at the point where, for his argument to be correct, Professor Elm would have to be watching the HGSS protag's mother like a hawk just to make absolutely certain she never acquires a Pokemon or Poke Balls for her son through any means whatsoever - this being a man who is so inattentive he can't even prevent Silver from stealing one of his extremely valuable starter Pokemon.

>>57931009 (OP)
>No one likes you enough to give you a starter.
I had very good standing with my college professors and high school teachers, and unlike (you) I have friends who enjoy my company enough to meet with me multiple times per week to play /tg/ shit or just hang out.I'm also well viewed by relative strangers in the places I shop locally.
>Even if you somehow stole a pokemon
I wouldn't need to, because unlike (You) I'm not a failure of a human being and a sociopath criminal.
>it would never respect you
This I can agree with, but that's more because I'm the kind of person who would absolutely put their well being over my own to the point they're spoiled. I'm just self-destructive like that.
>You’d be a resentful nopokemon fat guy freak stuck in his hometown
You assume that all NPCs you don't battle don't have pokemon, which is proven untrue by many non-trainers in games having pokemon in the games, such as in Pewter.

>>57931026
Man, this reeks of projection.

>>57942467
Yet he doesn't reply to my post. Curious. Almost like I'm right.

>>57931026
>You have no FACTS, which is why you resort to ad hominems.
The irony eludes you.