This thread won't be full of toxic bickering, I'm sure.

>nerf knock off finally, pls
>water types need to lose common access to ice beam, and have water type be weak to either ice type or poison type, I don't care which
>auto-weather abilities should activate on the SECOND turn, not when they first come in

>>57932273 (OP)
ITT retards who are worse at balancing than even GayFreak

>>57932273 (OP)
both sunlight and rain make grass neutral to the random extraneous weaknesses that fuck it like bug, flying, and ice. Poison and fire still work.

I'd make Ice resist Fairy since that's how it was going to be in the gen 6 beta.
And I don't care if this busts Baxcalibur and Kyurem.

bug se against fairy
bug resists fairy
water weak to poison
normal gets a mini STAB on every type 20%

Tyranitar doesn't need any help being nerfed. Knock-off doesn't need it either.
Pursuit needs to come back and Tyranitar needs it.
My boy just isn't good anymore.

>>57932273 (OP)
>Bug resists Psychic
>Psychic resists Fairy
>Ice resists Flying

>>57932273 (OP)
reduce distribution of knock off rather than directly nerfing knock off
knock off should entice you to use specific mons, rather than being something basically everything has

Give better setup moves

>>57932671
This, I miss when it was exclusive to bros like armaldo and hariyama

give Fake Out

>>57932273 (OP)
Make Water and Poison SE against each other. Justify it by water cleansing the contamination and poison contaminating the source. That would be a net nerf to water, while making poison more of an offensive type.

>>57932273 (OP)
fatfuck loser. kill yourself already

Serious answers: Reins of Unity must be held by Calyrex.
Miraidon needs a nerf, but it's tough to think of how since most of its boosts are tied to the mechanics of how Terrain works. Haidron Engine could be nerfed by 15%. Frankly, do the same for Orichalum Pulse too.

>>57932735
howl being in its standard gen 3 ou set is so funny

>>57932273 (OP)
How do you even nerf knock off?

>>57932930
introduce soap type

poision hurts water
water hurts soap
soap hurts poison

>>57932424
stop pretending you play the game

>Intimidate
When the FIRST TIME the Pokémon enters a battle, it intimidates opposing Pokémon and makes them cower, lowering their Attack stats.

You take a look at all these interactions specifically added for Intimidate and tell me the ability does not deserve this nerf. There is no other ability in the game that has interaction bloat like Intimidate has.

>>57932273 (OP)
>Sleep fades if the Mon takes damage
>(Rest is done as a special status as "deep sleep" that functions the same)
>Frozen Mons takes half damage
>Poison halves special attacks
>Paralysis does not proc when status moves are used
>Ice types are immune to Burn, Rock types immune to Paralysis

Ice resists Fairy
>cold hearts are immune to cutness
Psychic is super effective against Fairy
>facts and logic beat supersition

suggesting any change to nerf fairy is an instant tell of a campaignshitter who doesn’t play the game

>campaignshitter
comptranny detected

Add Frostbite instead of Freeze.

Freeze happens as a 10% chance of hitting a Frostbitten opponent.

>>57934009
>make ice worse
no

>>57934014
Frostbite is a mechanic already in Z-A. It's Special Attack Burn

>>57934018
>Frostbite is a mechanic already in [non-pvp focused games]

>>57933818
>stupid nigger can't even understand what's being said
It's fine to not even comment if you have a room temperature IQ.

>>57934265
>tyranitar is le bad because...um....box legendaries are allowed!
kek good job proving my point

>>57934267
I didn't actually examine what you replied to, but Tyranitar's best chance to shine was regulation H and it was on around 10% of the top 30 during regionals.
It was not on any or the winning teams.
No one was bringing Tyranitar in Reg G or Reg I.
Do you play the game?

>>57934344
>and it was on around 10% of the top 30 during regionals
oh...so it's perfectly fine then?

>>57934352
It's not a winner and losing pursuit was not helpful.

>>57934367
>only 6 pokemon are good at any one time
thanks for your input campaignshitter

>>57934377
Generally you want a Pokemon to prove it's utility and at best Tyranitar disprupts weather. It can't put out damage without setup and it has a 4x weakness to a common type. Pokemon that must tera to survive aren't good and Ttar is exactly that.
It didn't like fighting type(attacks) which were all over and even Archaludon in Reg H carried body press.
I shouldn't have to give you an analysis for why it's not a good mon now. You didn't play the game.

>>57934386
>It can't put out damage without setup
damn I didn't know GF coded tyranitar to do no damage if none of its stats are buffed. what a weird interaction

>and it has a 4x weakness to a common type
damn I didn't know people literally always have fighting moves on every single one of their pokemon and that they use them every turn. what a weird interaction

Allow both to learn Cosmic Power. And perhaps allow Synchronize to work with confusion, infatuation, freeze and sleep.

>>57934392
Who is Tyranitar threatening?
What is it doing on the field?
It's a bad mon and I'm glad you're taking it personally.

>>57934399
>Who is Tyranitar threatening?
other pokemon
>What is it doing on the field?
doing damage

>>57934403
Nearly every pokemon does that, many do that better.
Why bring it?

>>57932273 (OP)
Rock types absorb stealth rock

>>57934411
>many do that better
not really

>Why bring it?
to win games

>>57932273 (OP)
You gotta give normals something. Maybe a supereffective is too much, as everything would get it, but at least a resistance. To fairy maybe? Fairy doesn't really need an offensive nerf that much, but it wouldn't be that bad.

>>57934386
Tyranitar+Excadrill was omnipresent in early Swsh and people ran Ttar+Lycan dawn in early SV

>>57934454
Nils Dunlop took the Ttar/Excadrill core deepest in Lillie Regionals, but for some very lucky crits that Indeedee put out in 2 separate games, he wouldn't have made it.
Nils didn't even bring Ttar or excadrill in game 3 of Finals. The regional win was Ttar's best placement.
Reg H was a good meta, but the reason Ttar could go anywhere was because many powerful fairy and fighting types weren't there to bully it. No paradoxs helped it tremendously.

If a pokemon uses a move that requires a turn to charge up, and it actually just sits there and charges up for a turn (i.e. no Power Herb, no automatic charging in weather, etc.), the power of the move doubles.
Hyper Beam and its clones just can't use the move twice in a row, like Blood Moon and Gigaton Hammer

>>57932898
Give him Crabhammer

>>57932273 (OP)
Increase my favorite pokemon's base stats and give them stronger moves

>>57934512
Done, now Geomancy gives +4 to sp.atk, sp.def and speed when not affected by Power Herb. This stacks with the omniboost Z-Geomancy grants on the charge up turn.