Say something nice to your pokehebe classmates

>>57933686 (OP)
They look like they will ace their sexual education classes

>>57933686 (OP)
Fuck off gooner.

>>57933686 (OP)
Pokehebes are the best

I'm a lolicon but wtf is the point of the term hebe?

Descriptors shouldn't be needed to further clarify that they're not expired. You can tell by their design

>>57933878
>I'm a lolicon
Just say you're a pedophile man, we don't care.

>>57933686 (OP)
>PEASE

>>57933686 (OP)
Liko never met the previous cast...

>>57933878
people who know that the term loli makes them sus so they make themselves even more sus trying to avoid it

>>57933686 (OP)
Future inmate thread

>>57934002
It's kinda relevant

>>57934528
Nah, there's a bug difference between 10 and 15 year-old girls. You wouldn't call a 15 year-old girl a loli would you?

>>57934002
>pedo
:(
>pedo, japan
:)

>>57933686 (OP)
Why are they showing me their panties? This makes my desire to bully and tug them up high skyrocket

>>57934593
these retards would call a 17y 11m "a loli".

fuck, some take it even further and call men pedos if they chase young adult women given a certain age gap

>captcha: 2WAX2N

>>57934683
>>57934002
>2d images have rights

>>57934578
It's kinda irrelevant

>>57934740
Lolifags BTFOed forever

>>57934740
>the more 'spicy' you want the content to be
We don't have empirical/epidemiological data to show at what rate this actually leads to physical offending rather than merely leading to spicier porn

In fact, the post as whole cites no statistics, because the statistics don't exist yet. At best we have anecdotes now; some researchers are try to see what the empirical impact is, positive or negative. Picrel is still ongoing, apparently.

>>57934772
Forgot pic

>>57934774
Bickering aside, this really is an interesting research area

>>57934578
Most pedophiles are not lolicons because lolis do not look like children.

>>57934740
Nice rant unfortunately sociology, criminology, psychology and other scientific fields all disagree with your emotionally unstable chatGPT opinion

>>57934844
>Lolis don't look like children
>Posts Acerola, a character that looks like a 10 years old
Nice cope pedo.

>>57934851
To be fair, there is research I think that shows giving CSAM to people that have already offended actually makes them more likely to re-offend

But yeah, in terms of non-offending populations, there is no causal data yet which is why the scientific fields are silent on the issue for now

>>57934851
>No academic sources because you just made that up

>>57934851
>>57934869
Links to studies in question?

>>57934593
If they can be 500 years old like Shinobu or even just 18 like Konata, then yeah

I also find the moralfaggers weird when Pokemon has worked with lolicon artists in the past.Yeah it's a weird fetish but like no one's getting hurt and there's a reason why it's legal vast parts of the world, and illegal in corrupt shitholes like lran or nanny states like the UK or France.

Hell, even in China where porn is entirely banned they have lolicon artists working at Mihoyo, just look at ZZZ

https://cphpost.dk/2012-07-23/general/report-cartoon-paedophilia-harmless/

Also, I should note that there was a study done in Denmark after the center-left social democrats accused the center-right liberal conservatives of being pedophiles for supporting this content being legal, and the study found it doesn't cause harm to people.

>>57934908
It was an old US government study, I'll have to dig it up. But take this with a grain of salt: They were trying to ask the question of: should people be allowed to have "virtual" CP. I believe they argued that for the general population they didn't have a strong opinion due to lack of evidence, but they also said that convicted child molesters specifically should not be allowed to possess it because there was reason to believe it would cause them to re-offend.

I did stumble on picrel which tentatively says that online-only CSAM users are LESS likely to offend IRL. Obviously, real CP possession is still wrong, but this does go against the CP to real molestation narrative.

^Paper: Online Sexual Offending Against Children: Recidivism Rates and Predictors

But again, I think the above paper is generally for 100% real cheese pizza, I don't think it covers loli in particular

>>57934949
I agree. The problem is when accusing people of being pedo they immediately go to the defense it's not hurting anyone or get really aggressive in general. However pedophilia was never a synonym for child predators so for them to jump to that conclusion that they are being called a child predator when they're not is very iffy.

>>57935168
If you irl call someone a pedophile that will automatically carry the assumption that they actively fuck children
No, "erm actually" nerd emoji shit doesn't translate to reality

>>57935210
The dictionary makes the definition very clear, it has nothing to do with the action of sexual assault. If the understanding of the word has been skewed, then that's a problem.
In short, lolicon lovers are pedos but doesn't necessarly mean they fuck kids. The sooner they own that, the less of these repetitive arguments we'll have.
The main gripe with them is theyre obsessed and aggressive and can never discuss anything else. Their passion takes up a giant chunk of the catalog and I'd be equally annoyed if there were 50 or 60 threads about the bollards in Gen 1 Kanto.

>>57935235
>lolicon lovers are pedos
Even though it seems reasonable, I wouldn't grant that (yet). We don't have a proper incidence rate of diagnosed pedophilia amongst the lolicon userbase. We don't know if the overlap is 5%, 50%, 99%, etc

Because empirical data shows us counter-intuitive things on occasion. Like how light somehow behaves like a particle AND a wave

Or to use a more relevant fact, not all child molesters are diagnosed pedophiles. They are opportunistic, and the young are easy targets. But while this is a fact it is also counter-intuitive; after all, why would anyone pursue and/or manage to get aroused by a child even if they aren't a pedo? Or how men who molest little boys are not necessarily gay?

Similarly, is it not possible that some people really like young waifus as characters, and therefore they seek out hentai of those characters despite having no urge to obtain actual CSAM?

>>57934949
It always seems so random to me that Denmark is one of the few 1st-world countries besides Japan that allows loli. Even the US is in a gray area, it depends on whether or not the jury considers the art to be obscene

>>57935309
>Similarly, is it not possible that some people really like young waifus as characters, and therefore they seek out hentai of those characters despite having no urge to obtain actual CSAM?
They could have preferences over drawings of kids vs. real kids. Its still pedophilia, just no kids were harmed in creating what they fap too.
HOWEVER, we have no way of knowing if the AI generated pictures of sexualized anime kids were generated off the training of real child. The people generating or fapping to them have no way of knowing so it doesnt make them guilty, but it's just something to think about with this new tech. Only the hosts of those generators would know, and I think they should be investigated just in case.

>>57935168
In case you didn’t realize, my post was in support of the legality of lolicon/shotacon. There’s no point going after it since there's no overlap between it and pedophilia.

>>57935418
Although it next to Germany, it doesn't have the far-left communist troons demaning the legalization of actual pedophilia like in the Netherlands nor hordes of ragheads who think any cartoon is an afront to Allah even though their countries have 20% child marriage rates (in Palestine its up to 25%)

>>57935438
>They could have preferences over drawings of kids
>Its still pedophilia

What I'm saying, despite how counter-intuitive it may sound, is that the second statement above does not necessarily follow from the first statement. That was the point of the two real-world examples I gave

The 2nd could follow from the 1st, but it has not been confirmed with any sort of controlled survey

>>57935446
>there's no overlap between it and pedophilia

Just to clarify my statement here >>57935558
I do think some lolicons are pedos, this we know by anecdote. However, I also don't think we can extrapolate this to all lolicons without real data

This whole thing is a dumb argument, because most loli is drawn more akin to a petite woman's body shape than a child's. the nip of the waist, the curve of the hips, breasts occasionally present if small, like A-cup or flat, if you think characters like Rukia from Bleach are attractive, and you think lolicons are pedos, congrats, you're a pedo because you're attracted to the same physical traits as them.

>>57935235
>>57935210
>>57935168
>actually you have to just let us call art we don't like pedophilia so we can move onto the next point in our psychotic shower argument

Reminder

>>57935912
>child pornography is art

>>57935912
If youre into lolicon you have no right to call anyone else psychopaths. It's in your nature to have the mental maturity of the characters you fap to

>>57935926
Technically it can be, see picrel. Non-obscene implies that it could have some artistic merit (see point three of the Miller test). It is just that if actual children are involved in the art then it is considered a crime REGARDLESS of any artistic merit: The primary problem isn't that they are children per se, it is that they don't have the rational ability to provide informed consent, and can thus be mentally/physically hurt (see 2nd highlight). Same reason why you can't have sex with drunk people

>>57935438
>They could have preferences over drawings of kids vs. real kids. Its still pedophilia
Would a man be considered homosexual if he found yaoi doujins hot but not real men?
If a vegan person enjoys plant-based meat products, are they not a real vegan?
Is a person who plays and enjoys videogames a violent person? (yeah yeah the violence in games argument again, I couldn't think of anything new but I think it fits)

>>57933686 (OP)
Lillie and Liko are two pokemon girls I would love to be in bed with.

>>57936294
He was talking preferences. The implication is still that there is an inherent link between loli and pedophilia (which is true).

>>57936359
Genres and concepts can diverge and evolve past their origins. Like how nigger (derogatory) branched out and became nigga (kinship/brotherhood). Nigga began as a demeaning term but now when black people use it, obviously the essence is the latter

>>57936294
>Would a man be considered homosexual if he found yaoi doujins hot but not real men?
Yes.

>>57935558
Also, there is a reason why the verbiage has shifted from sexual preference to sexual orientation. Preferences can change over time, but generally speaking your sexual orientation is locked in at puberty. So if a straight guy prefers cartoon porn to real porn, they would still be heterosexual and would thus be aroused by actual women too, even if it was less than their arousal to cartoons. Same thing goes for pedophilia, which is also not a mere preference. So, if there is an individual that likes loli but doesn't have an interest in actual kids, then they don't fit the bill