Objective tier list of mainline Pokemon games

https://tiermaker.com/create/mainline-pokemon-games-gen-1-9-15130865

genwar thread

>bw2 that high
Blud thinks he’s on the team :skull:

>>57939579 (OP)

Bort stealth thread

>>57939579 (OP)
>Objective
and yet you have an autistic meltdown when someone asks why gen 6 has contests, secret bases, trainer customization, berry farming, pokeradar, relevant triple and rotation battles, a bottom screen that's actually useful, more routes, and actual pokemon animations while gen 5 doesn't

>>57939579 (OP)
>Crystal and FRLG above GS
Lost me right there. They are either equal or below. No exceptions.

>>57939613
What does yawnie's tier list look like?

>>57939579 (OP)
XY is too high

>>57939601
evandoe they are the most polished and substantial games in the series

>>57939579 (OP)
Yellow is B tier

>>57939579 (OP)
My objective list

>>57939612
stealth??

>>57939613
Gen 5 literally already did all of that.

>>57940150
>Gen 5 [lie]
every time

Any list that rates ORAS over any of the gen 1-5 games is a bad list.

>>57939579 (OP)
Actually a pretty good tierlist.
Personally I’d move Emerald up to S, Black/White down to B, and BD/SP down to its own tier dedicated to unholy abominations.

>>57939613
Half of the features you said are either already in older games (and were done better, at that) or are so minute such as berry farming.
The only one actively bringing it up at this point is (You).

>>57939579 (OP)
diamond/pearl don't deserve to be that low when plat is S tier.

I fully admit to my Kalos bias. Despite their problems, XY were unbelievably fun on release thanks to PSS. I will concede to the opinion that it belongs in trash tier.
>"Then why is ORAS in trash tier?"
Because while XY were uninspired and barebones, just asking for an edition to breathe new life into the region, Game Freak did everything in their power to piss me off with ORAS's changes made to the originals. Emerald and Platinum proved that even the weakest launches have potential with enough polish if given a second chance, while USUM showed how hard you could fuck it up. FRLG showed how easy it was to bring a dated region to modern standards and HGSS went above and beyond what was asked for in a remake, while ORAS and BDSP couldn't even deliver what the the previous enhanced editions brought to the table. SnS and SV's DLC did little to nothing to improve the base games, so what we saw when we entered the generation was what we got when we left.

PLA's a spinoff btw

>>57940466
>Half of the features you said are either already in older games
Which makes it all the more pathetic that gen 5 doesn’t have them.

how tf do you guys replay older games. Tried to replay HG/SS and it's so fucking slow it made me wanna kys

>>57940861
Get in the mindset of when the game first released. You can inject events from when the game first began; such as the Liberty Pass in BW, just don't get too crazy with it. And in the case of Gen 4 and 5, you can use DNS servers to get some form of online play back.

I'll admit to being biased towards gen 4 (the best gen)

>>57939700
>b2w2
>polished

>>57941180
the filename is wrong, it's "surfing on one of the only 4 single fucking messed up tiles in the game"

>>57941193
>>57941180
>4 single fucking messed up tiles
4 instances across the region, 3 of which are multiple tiles if I recall correctly.
Which is significantly more than any other Pokemon game before it (except gen 1), which says a lot about how unpolished B2W2 is. Almost as if the entire game is built off rehashed assets from BW...but they couldn't even do that correctly, because you can walk straight through some of the trees in Giant Chasm.
Borts will see this and still pretend B2W2 is a polished game.

>>57941213
>Which is significantly more than any other Pokemon game before it
In Gen 3 you can run ACE
In Gen 4 there' tweaking
you can't compare those to a slightly oversight

>>57939700
>here's that polished and substantial game I was telling you about

>>57941260
>complex glitch you won't find unless you already know about it vs tile errors you're more likely to encounter than not to (particularly the one at flocessy ranch)
It's reasonable they never would've found ACE or tweaking during testing. It's completely inexcusable that they never found at least some of 2nova's many fucked tiles

>>57939579 (OP)
you forgot colosseum and xd

no i don't give a shit what game freak says, they're main series if let's go are main series.

>>57941180
>>57941213
>>57941293
Listen here yawnfag; read my lips: NO ONE cares nor knows about your gay little tile glitch that has and will never EVER be encountered in a normal run. We all know by now BW2 objectively has the best level progression, teambuilding and NPC team composition of any Pokemon games (besides arguably Platinum) among many other things that make it the most sophisticated games to date. And of course, everyone already knows that it's objectively the most complete games in the series. When you think about it, it's really the opposite of XY, which objectively has the worst core game design and content of any Pokemon game but slightly more tranny fluff no one cares about to mask its rushed 3D tech demo state. Not to mention it's the ugliest games that killed the franchise.

>>57941290
das crazy but even the endgame easy mode for this game is more challenging than the entirety of XY lole.

>>57941477
this post doesn't really work when you accompany it with an image that starts off immediately with a lie

>>57941533
You can't keep denying objective reality, yawnnoid.

>>57941549
it's not XY's problem that it was so perfect that the games after it didn't need to bother updating the models anymore

also
>BW
>reasonable job
KEK

>>57941549
>bland and generic
?

>>57940568
I haven't played either, but why do people say USUM is worse than SM?

>>57941563
Are those washed and soulless 3d models supposed to look better kek

>>57941496
>here's that game that's more challenging than XY I was telling you about

>>57941570
which models are washed out?

>>57939579 (OP)

>>57941571
So…this is the high quality spritework gen 5 is famous for…

>>57941571
>xhe thought xy (easiest pokemon games) was a challenge
lol
lmao
lmaondade even

stop talking to yourself on your iphone

>>57941602
>xhe thought bw2 (easiest pokemon games (real)) was a challenge
lol
lmao
lmaondade even

>>57941610
lmaonade*
ESLbro...

>>57939579 (OP)
Move everything except Emerald in the top two tiers into F and your list might be credible. As it is, it's embarrassing DSbort propaganda for the worst games in the series.

>>57939579 (OP)
Accurate except move DP to C since it isn't 3 tiers worse than Pt, BW to B and ORAS to C.

>>57941643
ORAS is better than BW.

>>57939579 (OP)
>blackshit and whitesmegma 2
LMAO!! hahahahahahahahahahahAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHahAHAHAHAHahahaha cringe!

>>57941293
Same anon as >>57941260
Yeah that's actually a valid point

This is the ultimate truth. Fight me.

>>57941787
>>57941653

>>57939579 (OP)

>>57941653
lmao

>>57941787
XY should be C at best since it's worse than ORAS

>>57941790
>>57941803
I think ORAS is just worse than the games it's supposed to be modernizing. Gyms are too easy, the post-game is gone, story is way less fun than Emerald where you fight both gang at once. BW, XY, SM, all at least had something novel and interesting about them when they were first released that made them special.

>>57941477
>xy out of nowhere
both are shit, HGSS mogs

>>57941898
>I think ORAS is just worse than the games it's supposed to be modernizing
and yet it’s still objectively better than BW

>>57941903
The last hours of BW with the Team Plasma takeover put it above Gen 3 to me.
ORAS removed the Sootopolis City Kaiju battle which is a major loss.

>>57941943
BASED

>>57941943
This. I liked the part where the literal who 6 sages who did nothing except run away the entire game show up and pretend to be a threat so the game can have le ebin avengers moment with the gym leaders.

>>57941959

if you disagree you haven't played all the games and it shows

>>57941973
Hi verslify

>>57941963
yeah that was my reaction when playing gen 5 too

>>57941959
>This. I liked the part where the literal who 6 sages who did nothing except run away the entire game show up and pretend to be a threat so the game can have le ebin avengers moment with the gym leaders.
Yes. The villain played by the rules, became the Champion before you, and invaded the Pokemon League with his goons. It was a neat change of pace.

>>57939613
This post made me realize just how shit XY was because even when you take every literal-who element of the game it miraculously didn't fuck up and magnify those "wins" it still ends up looking worse than Gen 5 which unironically did all of that better (as you can see from the pic in this post: >>57941477). Fucking hell lmao.

>>57941901
>HGSS mogs
le safe reddit opinion

retarded ass thread

>>57942255
That's every thread here

>>57942255
sounds like somebody doesnt play the games! back to your yellow board freakazoid

>>57939579 (OP)
Even if I don't like the direction the franchise has been going since the switch era, I think ranking LGEP over any other game in that era is a blasphemy

>>57942255
>jannies in leak complain nobody reports gen wars
>thread has been up for 24 hours

xD

>>57939579 (OP)
Surprisingly based tier list. I'd just move DP up one tier but below GS. Plat wouldn't exist without those games.

>>57941901
>>57942253
I think what makes a game being remember fondly or bad is if they made feel any hope that the franchise would have gone in a good direction.
HGSS was not perfect but it was a notable improvement over both its original version and DP, and added a lot of features that the players wanted to see in other games.
Compare it to >>57941898 and the Let's Gos, were you had a clear impression that something was off about the direction where the series was heading

>>57942240
>even though the game is categorically better than Gen 5 it still ends up looking worse than Gen 5 because…uh…this image I posted where I removed things that exist in XY to make it look worse!
convincing argument

>>57942255
BRAAAAAP

zoomer tears activated
>why isn't platinum s tier
because the gameplay is still incredibly slow
>why is gen 9 ranked so high
because its the first true open world pokemon game. it would be s-tier if it wasn't for the performance and graphics

>>57942727
>because its the first true open world pokemon game.
Open world fags need to be lined up and shot

>>57942727
>rent free
don't care about the gen 2 placement but this is shit

>>57942727
>Emerald S, HGSS S
>Platinum and BW2 still in the upper tiers
Yeah you're really triggering the zoomies with these hot takes of yours.

>>57942253
reddit hates hgss though

>>57942834
>be a fan of franchise where you run into monsters in the wild
>a game finally comes along after 20 years that actually lets you see monsters in the wild
>"if you like this you should be shot"

never change /vp/

Eh.

>DP not being bottom tier

>>57939588
>Schizo genwarfag wants attention again but no-one gives a fuck about their bait

>>57944403
This entire thread was made by a genwarfag.

>>57941619
Meds and BBC saar

>>57939601
>>57939612
>>57939613
>>57939588
>deleted
AHAHAHA OH NO NO NO NO SHARTYXISTERS HOW WILL WE EVER RECOVER

>>57945763
jannies are giving the board renewed proof that the only gen they won't allow you to criticize is V, as has been said for many many years and will continue to be said

>>57945787
>t. sharteen

>>57941290
this was debunked

it’s strange how the gen that’s apparently the best is the only one that needs protection from the jannies

I wonder why that is…

>>57945939
>only spam about borts
>get banned for genwarfagging for once
>"gen 5 gets special treatment guys"
you are a pathetic loser

>>57945950
>pointing out why gen 5 is objectively bad in a thread about objectively ranking games is “spam about borts”
you aight, janny?

>>57945985
objectivity doesn't exists

>>57945996
this
the earth is flat btw

>a certain Gen has to run to the janny anytime they get critiqued because the gen can’t stand well enough in its own
Ahahahah

Yamame this is technically your mother's husband. Launder the silver bullion back to the coastguard and make for the nearest habitable star system AND I mean mineral rich terraformable strata and park it.

>>57946005
objectivity in science doesn't imply objectivity in art.

>>57946031
The Kalostranny melty is crazy.

NPC level tier lists

It's been a rough thread for yawnie. He's been sperging out on this thread since the very beginning and the jannies finally cracking down on him (rare janny W) must've broken him.

>>57946035
this
you can explore johto in xy btw

>>57945939
>>57945985
>>57946015
I hope this board never forgets this ever again
it's been happening for a decade now so it's undeniable at this point

>>57946519
Please stop noticing

>>57946519
Undeniably based, chyea

>>57946884
*kicks munna*

>>57946519
>>57946770
You only have yourself to blame for this to be honest. You shouldn't have been such an obnoxious genwarring schizo to the point of associating any Gen 5 critique with this behavior and inadvertently destroying your cause kek.

>>57946899
Almost like it's not an issue.

>>57946909
Almost like it is an issue and you're trying to dismiss it because it destroys your entire point kek

>>57946912
>chatgpt is wrong now
nah yawnie

>>57946904
>keep claiming the earth is flat
>repeatedly point out that it's, in fact, not flat in response
>"S-SEE? YOU'RE OBNOXIOUS BECAUSE YOU KEEP PROVING THAT IT'S NOT FLAT!! YOU DESTROYED YOUR CAUSE!!"
this is what you sound like

>>57946920
Case in point. You just can't help yourself. This is why you've made no progress in your MO for I assume a decade now; you are such an embarrassing retard.

>>57946884
I can get down with this except for HGSS's pacing. It has some of the worst pacing after Ecruteak.

>>57946932
>s-see! you proved that the earth is round again! you've made no progress on proving that the earth is round!
this is what you sound like

>>57946884
>and post-game content (Kanto region!)
It did the meme

>>57946884
this proves the zoomer poketuber hysteria from the retarded johtods here was a nothing burger

>>57939579 (OP)

I see Gen 5 in S or A tier, I stop reading the post

I see KANTOOOOO below S or A tier, I stop reading the post

I see KANTOOOOO not in S or A tier, I stop reading the post

>>57944331
People hate open world fags because they, including you, think a game automatically becomes good just for being open world, not because of the quality of the game itself.

I agree. Open world fags need to be lined up and shot.

>>57948397
The only nintendo game that i think managed the open world well was Xenoblade X, in lots of games it's just an empty field with the illusion of freedom