>load up white 2 for the first time in at least 5 years
>new save
>every time I walk through a door I'm stopped by a 30 second dialogue
>the wild pokemon are half or less the level of the gym
>gen 5 has the exponential drop in XP based on your level so getting my team trained is like gargling broken glass
Dios mio, still like the game, but these first two gyms felt like an utter slog. I've been running around virbank complex farming audino encounters but it feels so slow

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>>57951367

>falling for the “I have to train 6 pokemon evenly” meme

if you don't have your rose tinted goggles on, the gen is kinda ass.

>>57953370
Never said it was six. It could easily be a team of 3-4

>>57953379
It's only four, the wild pokemon are at most level 12 here and the gym leader has a level 19 whirlipede.

>>57953385
Seems fine to me. The Virbank Complex encounters are really good too. If you're using 4 Pokemon then there will be some grind in every game.

>>57953392
I was doing livingdex stuff in gen 3 the last few weeks, so I'm partly cranky because I'm not used to the exp scaling thing gen 5 does.

it's a bit grindy but you can also unlock passpower exp +++ in the entralink just doing the funfest mission. while BW1 requires entralinked/two ds with both copies, BW2 doesn't require anything else

>>57953413
I missed out completely on the wifi stuff, I had a router that wasn't compatible with the DS when I was playing these games. Didn't really get to do GTS or anything until the 3DS

>>57953420
same, the cool thing about funfest missions is that they're offline

>>57953357 (OP)
You don't need to match the gym leaders' levels you retard. Are you doing a nuzlocke? Are you 7 and still don't understand type match ups? Are you for some reason using a number of pokemon less than they are? If the answer to both of those questions was "no", then just fight the leader whenever. What's the worst that'll happen, you lose a battle and don't steamroll every fight in the game?

>>57953430
lol

>>57953430
see >>57953368

FFS I just now remembered that you can't grow berries

>>57953505
join avenue is your friend

I like B2W2 but they don't get good until like Driftveil City

>>57953357 (OP)
Yeah, sorry, zoomie. You have to read.

Also, training is the easiest shit in the world in BW2. Audino farm, sport.

>>57953625
The irony

when you realize most of the genwar shit stirring comes from the same person

>>57953643
Proof?

>>57953625
>>57953643
>>57953674
Keep it here >>57953368 thanks

So no proof? Got it

>>57953681
What schizo are you

>>57953625
The dumbest people on this website are the first to insult others intelligence

>>57953357 (OP)
>gen 5 has the exponential drop in XP based on your level so getting my team trained is like gargling broken glass
Unova has these things called Audinos. You kill them anywhere's grass and they drop loads of exp.

>Gen 5 critics don’t even play the game but love to bait post
Name a more forced hatebase…..you fucking can’t

>>57953625
>>57954164
why are retards constantly defending the bandaid GF put over a broken exp system instead of fixing that system

>>57953357 (OP)
Dude Gen 5 literally gives you catch up EXP no matter what you fight so you're always at the level they want you to be, just play the game.
Also in what game have the wild Pokemon ever matched the gym leader's levels? The gym leaders are always deliberately higher level than everything around them because they're supposed to be a significant increase in challenge.

>>57954381
Anon, you're replying to someone who needs to grind in Pokemon.

>>57953357 (OP)
I recently beat the game, and I don't really understand what the issue is with the EXP system. I just fought every trainer, skipped a lot of the wild encounters from Gym 3 onward, and I didn't need to grind at any point in the game. I reached the Elite Four with Level 54-55 Pokémon (like 3 or 4 levels below most of the Pokémon they have) and I beat it. It took a few attempts, but I didn't need to grind at any point in the game.
Using the Lucky Egg and the Exp Share makes it really easy to not fall behind too much level-wise. And you can beat most gyms while being like 5 levels below the "cap". You don't need to match the levels of the Gym Leaders to beat them, you know? I've always felt like you're expected to be slightly underleveled for gyms and the League, bc the point is that they're much stronger trainers.

I didn't even need to use items in the fights themselves, except maybe for Iris where I did pop a couple of Max Revives. But that was the only fight I needed to do that in. Just go into stuff underleveled, don't grind. Makes every Pokémon game more fun imo.

>>57954457
As I said, I was on the second gym, and there were perhaps a dozen trainer fights up to that point, so even doing every fight isn't a lot.
In Gen 5, the exp gain formula has a decay factor of (2L + 10) / (L + L_p + 10), taken to the power of 2.5, where L_p is your level and L is the wild level. What this means is that if you're at say level 30, and the wilds are level 20, you're going to be getting ~36% less exp per battle, which means that you'll be having to fight 58% more battles overall. You level up to 31, and the penalty is now almost 40%, requiring 64% more battles on average.

It's not completely unworkable, but it's enough to notice if that makes sense, especially before you do have the lucky egg.

>>57953357 (OP)
>feel like playing HGSS
>boot it up
>remember it has random encounters
>remember it has HMs
>remember it has TMs that only work once and can’t be repeatedly obtained
>remember it has no trainer customization
>remember it has no ranked online
>remember the breeding is shit
>remember the EV training is shit
>remember there's no ability capsules, patches, mints, or bottle caps
>remember it uses lazy static sprites instead of pokemon that are actually animated
>remember it has no party exp share
>remember it has no box PC
>remember all the railroading
>remember the difficulty is even shittier than the newer games
>go back to playing SV
mein gott

>>57955972
this is a BW2 thread sir.

>>57955505
Anon idk if you're aware but the reason they do this is so you don't overlevel and trivialize the game.
If you're noticing significant decay in exp earned then that probably means you should stop grinding and move on with the story.

>>57955976
difference?

>>57953357 (OP)
>every time I walk through a door I'm stopped by a 30 second dialogue
It happens yes, but that's way too frequent compared to what's in the game.

>>57954457
Weird. With a team of 4 mons (and two Revive fodder), I was only level 45-48 by the time I got to the Elite 4 and 49-51 by the time I beat Ghetsis.

>>57956031
As for the sequels, I was about 2-3 levels below consistently. But managed to catch up towards the end.

>>57955992
Fair, as I mentioned earlier, I've been playing emerald and firered for a couple months to do a living dex in each, so I'm completely unused to the level scaling for the XP