Predict the gen 10 meta - /vp/ (#57953499) [Archived: 772 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:20:50 AM No.57953499
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Here's mine:
>gf introduces a mon that has unreasonable synergy with the new gimmick
>adds a mon who is immune to half the attacks in the game
>new gimmick is alright but koffcels ban it
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:04:29 AM No.57953618
The gen 10 double restricted meta will be:
Horses/wolves/bikes/Lunala/Kyogre/overpowered G10 Box legends
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:19:32 AM No.57953647
The best part:
Typhlosion still having a shit movepool.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:26:11 AM No.57953885
three new abilities will be added that have extra interactions with specifically intimidate yet will have zero fucking impact on how strong it is
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:41:05 AM No.57953903
>>57953647
Its movepool is the least of its problems when it's a mono-fire type with a rather meh statline with merely above average special attack and reaching base 100 speed (which isn't that impressive nowadays)
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:46:33 AM No.57953910
>>57953903
It's a jab at Game Freak's "balancing" decisions.
If a Steel/Ghost Pokemon can be immune to status effects, then Typhlosion and Meganium can have actual movepools. No exceptions.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:59:39 AM No.57953930
>>57953910
you seem awfully obsessed with gen 2's starters
try having some actual variety in what you screech about buffs being required for
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:03:43 AM No.57953935
>>57953930
I would but I'd just be met with some shit gotcha about how "no one likes that Pokemon".
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:06:23 AM No.57953936
>Levitate is now an innate trait that all pokemon whose models that don't touch the ground have. All pokemon with levitate gain new abilities. Dragonite is now dragon/normal with the levitate trait. [/spoiler]Gengar does not levitate[/spoiler]
>Defog applies the clear effect, THEN the stat debuff. Good as Gold no longer blocks the move
>obvious nerfs to Koraidon and Miraidon
>gen 8 legends are dexcut
>genies are dexcut
>gen 8 legends are dexcut
>Hisuian mons are dexcut
>megas, gen 6 legends, Alolan formes, gen 7 legends, ultra beasts are back, and paradox mons are all back, but only after the Home update six months later and are not all added at once. They release chronologically
>Incineroar no longer learns knock off or parting shot
>Kangaskhan no longer learns fake out or sucker punch. Power up punch is still dexcut
>all -ate abilities are dexcut from the megas. Sylveon still has it
>Mega Salamence becomes the first mega to have its stats nerfed, and quite severely
>Mega Gengar no longer has shadow tag. Some dev really hates Gengar
>Mega Gallade does NOT get sharpness
>Kingambit no longer learns sucker punch. He's a shitmon now
>Dondozo's stats and Tatsugiri's commander are nerfed
>Rage fist and last respect's power only increases by 10 per stack
>flower trick base power is nerfed down to 55
>all treasure of ruin abilities are nerfed. Their stats are nerfed a second time
>psychic terrain and expanding force are nerfed
>electric terrain is nerfed
>TAUNT NOW HAS PURSUIT PRIORITY AND PREVENTS SWITCHING + U-TURN
>pursuit is back, but only whenever Mega Houndoom uses a dark attack
>loaded dice and booster energy are dexcut. Paradox mons must use weather and terrain to get the boost now
>Terastilization is back by popular demand
>NO NEW GIMMICK. Prease Undarstand, open world take long time to make
>Arceus, due to playing a significant role in gen 10's story, will be legal in the restricted formats. Legend plate is banned
Enjoy new meta
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:37:38 AM No.57953988
Intimidate will remain unchanged. Instead we get another ability that interacts specifically with it and is limited to a complete shitmon. Pursuit comes back but only Incineroar can learn it
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 12:55:24 PM No.57954276
bump
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:22:38 PM No.57955402
>>57953499 (OP)
>Steel is now weak to electric
>Electric types are now an answer to steel stall
>Poison point gives the enemy Toxic status
>New gimmick mon gives their companion stat boosts on entry and becomes the new staple competitive mon
>New item allows you to give solo type mons a second typing
>Abused to give water and steel types ground type
>Paradox mons are now available through fossils and will give them actual abilities
>They become meta mighty
>Lando-T is now even more meta relevant as an answer to electric types
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:43:49 PM No.57955461
They finally introduce the auto Trick Room setter, and it's either
>a starter's hidden ability
>the only ability to a one stage, Psychic shitmon
>an ability of a member of the legendary trio/quartet
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:56:56 PM No.57955483
>>57955461
It's also going to be fast because fuck you
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:00:34 PM No.57955488
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All abilities now activate once per battle
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:06:44 AM No.57955846
>>57955461
regardless, it would be OP as fuck
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:26:02 AM No.57955887
>the mons are 50/50 unusable dogshit or stupid gimmick mons, with like 6 that are simply good in a normal way
>the generational gimmick is broken dogshit meant to sell toys of the Gimmick Enabler
>/vp/ throws a shitfit when Stingulor gets banned from OU because it has 150 base speed and 135 base attack because "Both players can use it so its not broken" and "just use Iron Defense Aggron to wall it bro its not hard"
>Bike Lizards get their ability gutted
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 8:06:58 AM No.57957016
>>57953936
>obvious nerfs to Koraidon and Miraidon
Miraidon Nerf is understandable but koraidon? He is good in single but his typeing and lack of synergy with his ability
And the inevitable removing of terastallize he doesn't need any nerf especially as physical damage dealer
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:31:46 PM No.57957499
>>57957016
Koraidon lacks only one of the boosts that Miraidon enjoys unless it's tera fire, in which case it enjoys more power.
Both bikes need a 15% nerf to their abilities so they aren't 1hko everything.(fuck it, do it for the paradoxes too)
Calyrex needs a nerf too, make them hold the reins of unity. Too powerful, moxie, and both are in the extremes of speed tiers.
The wolves I believe are nerfed enough, they just happen to be good support in double restricteds.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:35:02 PM No.57957503
>>57953936
>>Mega Gallade does NOT get sharpness
if anything it should get intrepid sword while gardevoir should get psychic terrain ability
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 4:13:27 PM No.57957641
That surprising how impmon reuniting with the twins work so well despite their lack of screen time
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:18:40 PM No.57958664
>>57957499
Checked. I think bike lizards could get their abilities nerfed to only 20% boost. Caly needing to hold reins is a good nerf too. I would like something to happen to Urshifu because of how little counterplay there is. And that stupid cat needs to lose uturn and parting shot.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:47:28 PM No.57958744
>>57953499 (OP)
>bikes get nerfed
>Calyrex forms get nerfed
>Intimidate gets removed
I can dream
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 12:06:41 AM No.57958789
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>>57953499 (OP)
they will add a severely overtunned defensive mon that will see mass use to the point where every team will need to include a way to break through it specifically or be completely walled. It will be ugly and everyone will hate it. Smogon will not ban it.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 12:08:06 AM No.57958793
>>57958664
How about
>Unseen Fist only active upon first turn of switch in
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 12:15:36 AM No.57958810
>>57953885
People bitch about Intimidate, but I still stand by my original feelings that Reg F was the best SV VGC has been, and was arguably the best VGC has ever been. Incineroar with Intimidate and its partners AV Raging Bolt/Rillaboom slow down the game to the point it's not a 4 turn rush down where one misplay ends it. You will play slow, you will play deliberately, and you will like it. The game will be one of positioning and setup, not Specs Flutter Mane Scarf Chi Yu, or Follow Me Trick Room into Psyspam. Intimidate is the glue holding VGC together.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 12:17:37 AM No.57958812
>>57955488
>Slaking on turns 3+
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 12:22:24 AM No.57958828
>>57957499
Calyrex just needs the Neighs nerfed to not double proc in one turn, so getting a double KO would still only give +1. Once Tera is gone, Calyrex will go back to being Knock Off and Wil-o-Wisp fodder for Incin. It's only doing so well now because it can Tera out of the one thing balancing it; its terrible typing.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 12:28:44 AM No.57958854
>>57958828
Even at +1 the Calys are too good.
Their min/max'd stats for their respective speed tiers makes them far too good and the usage backs it up.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 2:06:02 AM No.57959109
>>57958793
What if unseen fist only worked on punching moves? sure Wicked Blow and Surging Strikes would get through but it would have to run the dramatically weaker Drain Punch or the unreliable Focus or Dynamic Punch if it wanted to Fighting move through shields.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 4:44:34 AM No.57959488
>>57958793
Maybe? That's better than nothing. I was thinking like only half dmg through Protect like moves. But maybe yours is better.
>>57958810
Based
>>57958828
It won't be gone forever since champions exists. So that needs to be taken into consideration too.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 5:10:02 AM No.57959547
We need a SpAtk version of intimidate.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 5:11:59 AM No.57959555
Okay.
>things happen
>autistic bastards sperg out
>i ignore it once again until the welfare shiny VGC rewards
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 5:22:28 AM No.57959580
>>57953499 (OP)
Ogerpon is able to be transferred over, but her masks no longer exist and we're left with a new base form that has Adaptability to reference Tera.