You don't hate Fairy Type for any valid, legitimate reasons. You only hate it performatively. Exaggeratedly. Because you are insecure about your fragile and inadequate masculinity. To the point: Anything which "seems gay" to you triggers a panic response in your reactionary brain, making you freak out like it's some kind of threat to you personally. Everyone must know YOU'RE not gay, YOU'RE not soft. So you feel compelled to do this whole song and dance of aggressively denouncing any association with things that are girly, pink, and cute.

You attack Fairy Type because it represents all that is feminine and tender, and you're (ironically) not a strong enough man to show open vulnerability, compassion, or gentleness. Like a real man does.

>>57955484 (OP)
I hate it because it was a bad solution to a problem that only really affected doubles. It buffed steel the real strongest type, It did very little to buff poison because poison is in direct competition with steel for the role of fairy counter, It was a defacto nerf to ice by beating dragons better, and it unfairly nerfed weaker dragons and even Hydreigon who now has a quad weakness in addition to its already fatal flaw of being pitifully slow for an OU glass cannon. Landorus had a crazy high usage rate in gen 6 OU proving my suspicions that simply making good ice sweepers would have been the better call. Replace every fairy type with an ice type that has its Special Defense and speed swapped if the Special Defense is higher and you get a much better game.

>>57955484 (OP)
no i just hate them because there's zero reason they needed to be ANOTHER bug resist

>>57955525
Why the fuck does Ghost resist Bug literally for what conceivable fucking reason

>>57955503
fpbp, trvth bomb, etc

>>57955503
steel losing dark and ghost resistances was a bigger nerf than steel being SE against one more type was a buff.

>>57955613
Even if that were true enough to knock it down from perch as strongest type it's still the 2nd strongest and the best counter to the strongest being fairy.

>>57955543
mushi

>>57955484 (OP)
i think they should fix ice. i don't really mind fairy but i just feel like ice is cooler

there's not really any fairy Pokémon that stand out to me as favourites. and it's not a macho thing since im literally a tranny

>>57955636
If you think fairy is the strongest type you don’t play the game.

>>57955484 (OP)
Only dragontards hate fairy types. I like it because it exists to buff steel types.

>>57955653
I stopped playing competitive but I'm incredibly skeptical of the idea of it being anything other than Fairy or Steel

>>57955654
It's definitely kinda bullshit tho that Fairy is outright immune to dragon. It should be a resist

>>57955484 (OP)
i hate fairy because it has no consistent theming

>>57955669
water

>>57955673
Hilarious if true.

>>57955484 (OP)
There are three main reasons I dislike the Fairy type.
1. it is only present in the games I do not like to play
2. it's completely incongruous with the other types thematically - fairies don't exist, why would it be a type? Did they just want a catch-all term for non-elemental magic? Why not make it the Magic type then?
3. all the once Normal type Pokemon who became mono Fairy rather than Normal/Fairy and lost their Normal STAB

>>57955686
why's it hilarious?

>>57955671
You know perfectly well that's bullshit my guy. Or to the extent it's true, Fairy isn't worse than several other Types.

>>57955695
>it's completely incongruous with the other types thematically - fairies don't exist, why would it be a type

Is this fucking bait or are you a moron?? We have Ghost and Dragon, Fairy is EXACTLY the fucking same

>>57955717
the only other type that even comes close to being as incoherent as Fairy is Psychic

>the shit pokemon gens just so happen to be the ones where the fairy type exists
Is there a more clear cut example of jumping the shark?

>>57955725
I think it's too much of a slippery slope.
I already think dragon is kind of a weird type but I can accept it since it's one of the first and they can't change it now, but why add Fairy?
What's next are we gonna get the Dwarf type? Elf type? Goblin type?
All of these are about as valid as Fairy.

>>57955543
I've always heard the explanation that ghosts are scarier than bugs and thus ghost resists bug.

>>57955746
By this logic Ghost should resist everything except maybe Dragon.

>>57955732
>>57955695
>>57955671
>Hurr durr fairies aren't consistent they make no sense

I can't fucking believe you asshole are still saying this shit all these years later. For fuck sake

>flowers/mother nature
>sensing emotion and/or soothing it
>prankster fae deceptive tricky bullshit
>heals people
>being a guardian of something (surprisingly consistent)
>the moon
>becomes autistic and freaks out when one specific rule they care about is violated, like many old fae tales
>sweetness (sweet taste, smells, etc, to thematically convey their "sweet" personality)
>is an actual literal fairy/sprite/leprechaun/gnome/pixie etc
>is traditional fairytale/fantasy creature, mermaid goblin unicorn etc
>love/heart/compassion
>purity/angelic-ness
>blessings/good fortune

And before you SAY SHIT because I know you're about to: no, the fact I listed a lot of things just now does NOT prove your point about Fairy Types being inconsistent. Fairy Types are MANY things but they CONSISTENTLY represent each of those many things, so yes they are fucking consistent. Fairy is one of the most thematically rich Types we fucking have

You wanna talk "incoherent"? What the fuck does Dark Type have, huh? "I cheat to win". Real fucking deep thematic ties there, thanks Dark Type. Fuck off

>>57955484 (OP)
>You don't hate Fairy Type for any valid

>>57955745
DRAWFS GOBLINS AND ELVES ARE ALL A TYPE OF FAIRY THAT'S WHY WE FUCKING HAVE FAIRY TYPE TO BEGIN WITH SHUT THE FUCK UP AAAAAAAAAAHH

>>57955765
Dwarves are not fucking fairies what are you on about?
At most you could say Leprechauns are fairies, but dwarves are not fae folk at all.

>>57955764
isn't there only ONE steel/fairy type line in the whole series?

>>57955764
>mawile is a shitmon
>tinkaton is a shitmon
>klefki is only good because of its ability and isn’t even the best prankster pokemon
>magearna is only good because of its ability
>zacian is worse than zamazenta
play the game

>>57955759
Not any of those anons, but it sounds like you have a hilarious sore spot in the fairy type. What makes the Mr. Mime, Ralts, Marill, and Snubbull lines fairy-like?

Dark types can be nocturnal creatures or put emphasis on their sinister, cunniving, or more violent natures. I don't need a laundry list to cover all of them.

>>57955484 (OP)
I hate it because it’s applied selectively and poorly. It’s the worst type right next to Dark

At the time, it had been over a decade since the last type was introduced with steel and dark in gen 2, so it was on the face of it a huge change. My thought back in 2012 or so when it was announced was that I was unsure of how it would function thematically,
Of the new pokemon in X and Y, they introduced only 4 fairy type families with 2 legendaries, sylveon and some retroactive type changes alongside, as well as a couple of megas.
As far as the new pokemon with fairy, we had:
>Florges
>Aromatisse
>Slurpuff
>Sylveon
>Carbink
>Xerneas
>Diancie

I know I'm speaking subjectively, but I wasn't thoroughly impressed with the new mons.
Ultimately I think fairy was a fine addition, but the introduction wasn't quite what it could have been.

>>57955484 (OP)
Fairy type is trans-coded.

>>57955503
>It buffed steel the real strongest type
Steel literally never did anything wrong. I don't understand the unhinged desire to persecute steel that some faggots have. The nerf of losing 2 resistances was entirely unwarranted.

>>57956139
>The nerf of losing 2 resistances was entirely unwarranted.
Steel started off as the anti-bullshit type in the early gens resisting everything but being a dead slot offensively. However it started skirting the line into bullshit territory when steel types started getting usable offensive options and strong users of those options. Not helping is shit like DragMag that was only possible because of Steel, despite the Dragon half was the actually bad guy there.
Had it gained a new punching for bullet punch WITHOUT losing 2 resistances it absolutely would be bullshit, but as is its still a great but fair type, especially since everything worth using has super effective options against it to keep steel honest. Though its arguable that half the game getting earthquake and close combat is a problem in on itself.

>>57956165
Dragon has always been the real problem. Steel didn't do anything. Stop killing steel types, they have it hard enough as is.

>>57955759
>Fairy Types are MANY things but they CONSISTENTLY represent each of those many things
give 5 examples for every item on your list

>>57955484 (OP)
I hate it because I'm a bugfag and they felt the need to nerf bug even further. It being weak to bug would have been a great buff but even just being neutral would be fine, why the fuck does it resist it though?

It's a conceptually barren and undefined type that could've been substituted with a plethora of much more interesting types. It being thematically sissified is besides the point.

>>57955484 (OP)
cope

>>57955759
Almost all of the things you mentioned don’t even apply half the time. The typing is just selectively given to things regardless.

>>57955484 (OP)
I like Fairy types, and I like him.

>>57956099
Ehh I mean to be fair when you look at Gold and Silver it's not like they were doing much better
>Dark
>Houndoom
>Umbreon
>Sneasel
>Tyranitar
>Steel
>Steelix
>Scizor
>Skarmory
>Forretress
I can see why the devs might feel aprehensive about throwing in loads of Pokemon of a newly introduced type simply because you can never know how it'll shake up the meta, and it also doesn't do the dex any good to put all the eggs in that basket, especially for a selection as small as Kalos's.

I just want it to not resist bug.
It has a whopping 2 weaknesses. It's 2good

>>57956260
That pic got less cute the more I looked at it...

>>57956388
I don’t think it’s too good or anything but I want it to be weak to Bug because stronger U-turn spam would be funny

>>57955654
I made an Aggron profile picture for myself if you would like to see it.

>>57956724
show it.

>>57955686
It's not, he clearly doesn't play competitive. The best types currently are ground and steel. Fairy and ghost are also arguably better than water.

>>57956729

>>57956736
nice

>>57955703
Because it's a basic starter type. It's like if Summoned Skull was somehow meta again.

>>57956731
Is this for VGC or smogon?

>>57956177
Dragon was a weak type attached to strong Pokémon.

>>57956911
>it doesn’t show le super effective message so that means it’s weak!
You’re a retarded campaignshitter.

>>57956731
Ghost is arguably better than Water. Fairy absolutely isn’t. The thing a lot of retards forget is that Fairy moves are relatively weak. Their best special move has only 95 BP and their best physical move is 90 BP and does nothing 10% of the time. Meanwhile Water-type Pokemon are able to spam shit like rain boosted Wave Crashes.

>>57955484 (OP)
I hate fairy because it took a bunch of the cute mons from the normal type but I'm still too stubbornly attached to normal to accept that it's no longer the "cute" type.

>>57956731
no

-most common type, so plenty of strong mons for every niche. it's not locked into a stereotype of mostly bulky slow mons like steel or ice, there's great options for any role.
-scald exists
-rain boosts water, flying and electric moves. sun only boosts fire, ice only boosts ice and sand doesn't boost anything offensively
-hydro steam exists; water move boosted in sun. there's no parallel for any other type having moves boosted by opposite weather afaik
-resists steel, fire, water and ice
-super effective against ground, rock and fire
-resisted only by grass, dragon and itself, however, almost every water type knows a strong ice move, and there plenty of strong dual types to choose from (in fact, every single possible combination with water type already exists)
-grass, the expected counter to water is honestly kind of a bad type. so that kind of boosts water indirectly. aside from ice, infinite accuracy hurricane makes short work of grass types, and is widely distributed among water type
i could go on, but basically a bunch of factors combined mean that water punches far above its weight

>>57956885
He won't answer because he's full of shit.
Steel and ground are good offensive types, but there are many others that aren't saddled with common weaknesses.
Steel is an excellent defensive type too, but fighting and ground coversge is everywhere.
Suffice, Steelix isn't seeing play in the real format.(gib recovery pls thanks)

>>57956099
Florges, Sylveon, and the two legends were fine. The type just needed a pseudo to push the type like Tyranitar did with dark.

I like dragons, but enough of the 600 BST dragons. Fairy deserves a pseudo.

>>57957578
Every time there’s a type thread people don’t really explain why a type is good/bad for whatever meta. I don’t fucking play comp, back up your assertions you stupid faggots

>>57958615
I genuinely don't focus on types good/bad. Pokemon are a complete package of their typing/abilities/moves.
Whether a mon is good or bad is often situational unless their support is indispensable or they're so powerful that they can be good in nearly every board state.