Have we figured out a response to this yet?

>>57958802 (OP)
>"Ok"
>gen pokemon
>don't tell him you genned them

>>57958802 (OP)
stop cheating

>>57958802 (OP)
his response is "ACK!"
He will never be a professional pokemon master.

>>57958802 (OP)
>>57958825
Remove IVs.

I really don't see the issue with genning if you make something that's legitimately possible.

>>57959021
>I don't see the problem with cheating if you cheat well

>>57958802 (OP)
>isn't that unfair?
>yes, that's what you get for being poor

>>57958802 (OP)
>"Fuck off"
>Gen and trade 1000 more Pokémon
>Make sure most are be picked to a tournament
>Boycott the game by giving to the participants genned mons
>Flip the guy off when the tournament is cancelled

>>57958825
>>57958945
Both are right actually

>>57959124
>genning defenders are stark raving lunatics to the point that their posts are incomprehensible
Figures, the entire trans epidemic was built upon pokegenners logic btw, no one talks about this but the core philosophy of “legal hacked Pokémon” is how they developed the cognitive dissonance in society required for those to accept trans theory.

People gen because the alternative is actually playing the game to obtain things legitimately. With nature mints and bottle caps and the like it's even easier to get ideal Pokemon legitimately.
The problem is Pokemon games are varying degrees of ass and people see the solo game as a roadblock they don't want to deal with. People can't admit this because it leads to the question of "Why play a game you don't enjoy?"

I say this as someone who doesn't gen and spends their Pokemon time shiny hunting. People hate the core solo experience so they skip it entirely; that's the reason. Just look at how assmad people got when B2W2 put the daycare as post-game content.

>>57958802 (OP)
Draw deeply erotic porn of the longhair

>>57958802 (OP)
Why do I care? I don't play competitive. Not enough gatekeeping or elitism.

>>57959024
It's not cheating if it's the exact same result as hours of RNG manipulation. Cheating is something that isn't allowed by the game itself. Replicating the desired result is literally no different than wasting your time "officially"

>>57959219
The same could be said for duping items or currency. Things that can be grinded for but cheaters choose not to. That being said, I don't mind it in Pokemon competitions, because everyone's supposed to arrive with their best possible tools. It's weird that official tournaments don't supply some kind of smogon-esque team builder where you could get whatever you need to ensure your participation is as competitive as it can be.

>>57959190
With the baldie

>>57959219
No. It's against the VGC rules. It's cheating.

Stop cheating.

Just use it to breed a legit one, you're 30ish eggs away from the exact same thing at that point

But really they should at least have a category where you can fully customize your entire team

>>57958802 (OP)
yes, why would you want to play a game you supposedly love. God forbid

>>57959232
You can't really stop people from wanting to cheat to make the game easier, but the main reason not many people do this for the single player game is because the barrier of entry is less of a waste of time. Buying a potion in-game isn't the same as optimizing a mon because the latter can take hours depending on what you need. Something easy like the classic Incineroar set can probably take a few minutes... Or literal seconds when generated. Because the theorycrafting is already done to begin with, and that's the real hard part when team building

>>57959242
You don't play VGC. You actually can't tell when a Pokemon is genned or not

>>57959242

>>57959251
>why would you want to play a game you supposedly love. God forbid

They're just playing the fun part. What's wrong with that? No different than loading up a save file made after the beginning of a game full of an hour of cutscenes to actually play the game

>>57959163
At this point they just need to add a negative IV item and the only people left to complain are the ones who really do not want to play the games. It's like HS and College kids nowadays who only see school as a stepping stone to whatever their career choice is, so they use AI to write all their papers, then have a mental breakdown a few months into their job.

>>57959259
>>57959255
Just stop cheating. It's not hard. Why are you like this?

>>57959255
>You don't play VGC. You actually can't tell when a Pokemon is genned or not
They why are people getting disqualified? Could it be that they have Pokemon caught in places they shouldn't?

>>57959278
A retarded player deserves to be disqualified. A smart player will never be caught

You'll never tell the difference

>>57958802 (OP)
>Use to think genning Pokemon was an unforgivable sin and those that do it should be banned from VGC
>the games now effectively let you have near complete control over your Pokemon any
>No longer bothered by genning and understand why people do it to save time

As long as the monster have legal stats, moves, etc. It's fine.

>>57959641
*Anyway

>>57959267
>JUST STOP CHEATING, EVEN IF I WILL NEVER PLAY COMPETITIVE AND MY OPINION IS IRRELEVANT LOLOLOLOLOL

wtf does genning a pokemon mean

>>57959719
editing the save and using one tool called pokegen

>>57959024
yes, verlisify, exactly. you stupid faggot.

>>57958802 (OP)
>DQ
>but isn’t a contender at an event
????

The correct answer is usually just “fuck off.” It’s not that hard.
You aren’t going to change their mind. Don’t bother.

>>57958802 (OP)
Being serious, Game Freak/TPC/Nintendo just want to be able to have their cake (make people's Pokémon feel as unique and as special as possible) and eat it too (have competitive formats that encourage using the best of the best, with little to no benefit of using Pokémon that are suboptimal). They can't make IVs and natures more trivial without nullifying the reason they exist in the game.

I've always believed they should have a Battle Factory or rental system as some sort of compromise, so that players can experiment with whatever Pokémon they want, but they have fixed IVs and movesets which makes them way easier to get. Ironically Pokémon GO sorta solves the IV problem by having competitive brackets be restricted by stat product rather than level, which means having different IV combinations, while still difficult to find the best one, are not necessarily objectively best and even the slightest difference in IVs can change how your Pokémon play.

>>57958825
>>57958945
Based.

gotta ketchup all

>>57960003
GO has the same problem but worse in the IV department specifically, there's still optimal loadouts, but most are more rare than suboptimal due to raised IV floors and one of the ideal IVs often being 0. GO is just much simpler, and IVs are really the only thing you need to watch out for.

If people could gen Pokemon for GO they would (given that so many people spoof for perfect PvP IVs)

If anything, you'd have to convince competitive players that a perfect setup makes only a miniscule difference

>>57958802 (OP)
You just know a feminist leftist retard drew this

>>57958945
No, instead, make more IVs.
The problem is the fact that this mechanic has come to be as well understood as it is. When it was obscure and all people knew was that some mons are stronger than others, it was SOVL. Now that everyone knows how they work and can easily get max IV mons, it appears useless, but for world building and sovl factor it’s great

>>57958802 (OP)
What's genning?

>>57960491
It's when you insist that your gen is better than everybody else's gen, it's basically a gen war

>>57958802 (OP)
i didn't know it was possible to generate Pokemon. I'm here grinding for months for perfect IVs with every egg

>>57958802 (OP)
Attending competitive events costs way more money than one copy of a fucking video game.

>>57958802 (OP)
Life isn't fair.

>>57958825
based based BASED

>>57959219
>it's not cheating if you get the exact same result and hours of effort and patience in an instant
that's the definition of cheating

Complaining about someone injecting is like saying a baseball player cheated because he bought his shoes at goodwill. "You didn't EARN those!" Doesn't matter it's a game of skill

You're just mad you lose so much and are looking for something to blame.

>>57960909
Waiting in a video game does not require effort or skill and there is a difference between patience and having a life. Get a job

>>57960794
exactly!

>>57958802 (OP)
>tfw no art of him forcing the quirky comp girl to take his BIG HONEST COCK
For shame

>>57962240
There's quite a lot of art of that actually.
The author HATES it

>>57961066
T. Orange Stealth user