Does it make more sense for N to have Reshiram or Zekrom?

>>57967282 (OP)
Reshiram since he is whitemaxxed and loves to fuck Pokemon which Reshiram is ideal for. Hilda has Zekrom as her tour guide around Black City to railed by all the well-endowed locals.

>>57967282 (OP)
Both make sense but aesthetically you can't top Reshiram

>>57967282 (OP)
Looks wise Reshiram
Lore wise Zekrom

>>57967293
Hilda only gets Zekrom in White version, retard

>>57967447
You never heard of trading faggot?

>>57967282 (OP)
>Does it make more sense for N to have Reshiram or Zekrom?
Reshiram with its pyre tail represents religion, which is a form of idealism and also mysticism, sort of animism and animal worship.

Zekrom represents science with its turbine tail, which is a form of realism and celebration of the march of progress and utility.

Reshiram clearly visually and thematically fits N better than Zekrom does. Problem is that GameFreak flipped their explicit meanings for some reason, which is where the confusion is coming from. It's clear from their designs Zekrom was truth (STEM) and Reshiram was ideals (religion).

>>57967554
>GameFreak flipped their explicit meanings for some reason
This is a basic understanding of the concept of yin and yang.

They are not opposed. They are parts of the same whole. There is a little bit of both in each other.

>>57967554
>Problem is that GameFreak flipped their explicit meanings for some reason, which is where the confusion is coming from. It's clear from their designs Zekrom was truth (STEM) and Reshiram was ideals (religion).
I've always wondered why they did it this way instead of having Zekrom be truth (hard, blunt) and Reshiram being ideals (perfection, beauty)

>>57967282 (OP)
N is striving for both truth and ideals regardless of which game you’re playing, since they aren’t actually in opposition. Truth (finding the truth of the world since the player and starter contradict what Ghetsis told him and he wants to confirm it), and ideals (building his ideal world by finding the formula to change the world for the better).

So uhh… Reshiram fits him better visually, so that one.

>>57967821
Reshiram is a natural creature, aka what is. Zekrom is a mechanically modified creature, aka what could be.

Schizo time
>depending on the version you bought, it's the player that represents the half of the Yin-Yang. When we prove to our box legend we are at our strongest, we basically attain the opposite colored dot
>the same goes for N, however his beliefs are wrong and corrupted, he wishes to encompass what his "dot" represents and nothing else, by defeating him he understands his own "imbalance" and reforms

Zekrom, because they write one coherent story, then shove the alt version events into it, regardless of end result. That's why the Dragon of Truth will never fit with the idealistic, child-like simplistic idea of "separating people from pokémon".

>>57967282 (OP)
In B/W it his aesthetic fits Reshiram more, but in the sequels, Black Kyurem (who his chosen dragon is fused into) seems much more like the terrifying abomination they were going for.

>>57967282 (OP)
It's cool how both go with N when you compare and contrast them

N and Reshiram
>The white, angelic dragon goes with his "messiah" reputation
>Makes the player doubt that they're fighting for the right side as N is on the side of truth
>At the same time, if you're a fan of the "not all light-associated things are good" then this is pretty kino
>Fire not only symbolizes N's passion but separates him from Team Plasma's true intentions since he is essentially they're puppet king
>Further contributes to his "guardian angel" moment where he rescues you in the sequel
>His bonding with Reshiram ultimately gets him to see the truth that the player was fighting for

N with Zekrom
>The black, demonic dragon represents the sinister implications of his (sincerely) ideal plans
>Establishes that no matter the seemingly good intentions of those with strong ideals, they are not on the side of truth
>Although the "dark things are associated with evil" can be played out, I think it was presented in a cool way here considering the above
>Electricity better fits with his role in Team Plasma
>His and Zekrom's more heroic role in the sequel is more poignant considering the above as it shows that evil can be redeemed
>Although he eventually realizes the truth, Zekrom has helped him make his convictions and ideals stronger in the way that all he's ever wanted was to try to help Pokémon

>>57967468
N is still gonna have Zekrom in Black version, you gay CUNT

>boring cartoon animals that no one likes
People throw away trash for a reason.

>>57969339
>Literal Dragons(monster staple)
>Cartoon animals
Why is the IQ of this board getting smaller and smaller?

>>57967912
You're dumb, the idea that the way things are currently in the Pokemon world is perfect is just as idealistic.
Yeah some Pokemon are happy but there are also plenty of Pokemon that aren't, the fact that people like Team Plasma or any of the other evil teams exist at all means that the protagonist's position is just as idealistic as N's and N's position is just as truthful as the protagonist's.

>>57967282 (OP)
Aesthetically, Reshiram. Philosophically, Zekrom.

>>57969441
https://arch.b4k.dev/vp/search/text/boring%20cartoon%20animal/
He's been calling literally anything a "boring cartoon animal" for an hour today. Ignore the autist.

>>57967579
Its not flipped. It is there to symbolize taht In every yang there is piece of ying and reverse

>>57969478
I honestly don't understand why people like that don't just kill themselves

>>57969597
He's probably just a literal 12 year old kid that found a new buzzword to spam because he thinks he's too cool for Pokémon now.

>>57967282 (OP)
Zekrom. You have to remember than N is basically a feral child who's been built up to be an innocent messiah figure by Ghetsis who fed him the absolute worst of humanity's interplay with Pokemon. Zekrom is the definition of idealism run rampant and even matches N's manufactured if noble worldview.

>>57967554
>>57967821
They didn't though, the two dragons follow Tao perfectly. The problem's that people assume they're balanced when everything in their lore and narrative says otherwise. There's Kyurem's existence as Wuji or emptiness to show the inherent gap where one shouldn't be and from the very start you're operating in the Unova of the dragon that won while the other faded into the background.

>>57967282 (OP)
I don't know. I never read the story in Pokemon games because I just want to catch Pokemon. I couldn't tell you a single thing about N, his character, his motivations, or which legendary would suit him better.

>>57967293
>Reshiram is ideal
lol

>>57969452
>the idea that the way things are currently in the Pokemon world is perfect is
The whole concept of the fucking world. Where a criminal organisation ALLOW a fucking child to body them all the way up to the head of the snake, who then gives up his role and fucks off, with DLC for a remake showing how he got bodied AGAIN then agreed to fuck off permanently because they lost in an organised dogfight, where in the real world, it'd be one more missing kid in a world full of missing kids as they'd just shoot the nosey fucker, pay him off or threaten him, depending on how actually depraved and lacking morals the individual is (some hitmen won't kill kids, some put a premium on jobs they could be collateral on and others treat them as another notch on the rifle). So yeah cunt, they spent 14 years to that point hammering home the point trainers with a better bond have more success, from Oak dressing down the rival in RG/B/Y when he loses to the player for not trusting his pokémon more. Then this green haired queer magnet rocks up and they all go goo-eyed and ignore the core material already dismissed his argument (crafted from a narrow and highly selective spread of information no less) then get pissy when you explain why their shitty little fanfiction cannot work, using canon material to prove the theory (it only gets more obvious when you take teraleak's information on creation dates into account, when they started with a two dragon dynamic and there was no "other" planned or spoken about). Sorry you're apparently a brainwrong of some sort, it's "babby's first moral dilemma" "am it wrung to keeps pogyemans" and the answer (regardless what version) is no, the psychopathic foster father manipulated a susceptible child into trying to take over the Region. Not my fault you have a lower IQ score than a plate of mashed potato, Game Freak KNOW they make games for children, thus keep them to an IQ level of a plate of mashed spuds since Gen 5.

>>57969826
game right before BW has lore about a human that killed so many Pokemon they almost went to war with humans btw

>>57969826
not even reading all of this shitpost, just explain to me why Zekrom/Reshiram wakes up right away for N, while with us not a single fucking thing happens until the final battle?

>>57969864
>just explain to me why Zekrom/Reshiram wakes up right away for N, while with us not a single fucking thing happens until the final battle?
N was worthy, we weren't until that final battle.

>>57969852
Err, no actually, they HID from the humans because he was killing everything indiscriminately and threatened retribution in kind if it continued. The moral of the story was "only hunt what you need", as an analogy to real world morality tales of the like, because if the ecosystem crashes the people who rely on them suffer (the humans having no foodstores come winter).
>>57969864
The plot demanded it. Explain why the Dragon of Truth SHOULD gravitate to a man with a goal IT knows is idealistic, when a fundamental part of the universe is people and pokémon working together can surmount anything (Arceus' quotes from the end, before It joins the player - "Unflagging devotion to a goal shalt see it through... So hast thou proven by thine actions. Much as that ancient hero once did. He and the Pokémon that walked beside him. To see such truths proven anew, beyond the bounds of time and space, bringeth joy to me"). The universe is not set up to allow a duality of the story, it's unfortunately clear-cut and black and white, to borrow a phrase. That's why to for the player to prove the truth of the universe, the antagonist needed to first share his ideals and threaten the order. Dragon could have awoken for the player when they grabbed the stone, but they were only 3 badges in, so wouldn't have the required badges to prove their worth). There needed to be SOME measure of stakes and having the big bad clear the League then claim a new world order (ie enacting a bloodied coup) worked better than the player!Dragon waking up and then having bullshit to excuse why we didn't just paste the upjumped little oik.

>>57969852
Forgot image, derp.

>>57968038
Not if he trades for Hilda's Reshiram so she can be culturally enriched you cocksucking bitch

aesthetically easily reshiram. it just fits with N so well. seeing him with zekrom makes me throw up in my mouth.

>>57969940
>Explain why the Dragon of Truth SHOULD gravitate to a man with a goal IT knows is idealistic,
Because it knew that what N wanted to do was wrong, but it recognized the noble intentions behind it. It hoped that by fighting alongside us, it could come to understand. N quote from BW2:
"I've been worried about the people who believed in me… But it seems they know what they can do for Pokémon in their own ways."
"Compared to them… What was I doing? What I really should have done was tell people how Pokémon feel…! The legendary Dragon-type Pokémon knew that. It has lived long and known many people. It knew humans and Pokémon have lived and will live together. It knew that in this relationship, humans' actions have an enormous impact on Pokémon. That's why it helps the one who searches for the ideal (B) /truth (W)… the one who opens the way to the future."

>>57969940
>Explain why the Dragon of Truth SHOULD gravitate to a man with a goal IT knows is idealistic

You're misinterpreting the concept of "truth." It's not meant as "taking everything as is" it's "fixating on a single case to prove the whole." Was N correct in saying that Pokemon abuse happens and there would be mons that are objectively happier being apart from humans? Statistically, yes. But what he does is paint all of them with that brush believing them to be indicative of the whole rather than the exception. It's why when N talks to Black/White's Pokemon, he's floored by the idea that they WANT to be with them and like fighting alongside them.

>>57970236
Yeah, nah. The problem is flipping the script and pretending it fits, especially when it contradicts the rest the games in the series canon.
>>57970287
>However, the brothers each sought something different in life—truth for the older brother and ideals for the younger—and they began to argue, then fight, over whose side was right
Get fucked kid, it's pretty fucking clear-cut. Not my fault you're an autistic faggot fuck retard who needs to pretend her boyfriend's colour coordinated.