What's your opinion on the Pokémon timeline? Do you consider it necessary? Think we will see a middle aged Red in next year's game for the 30th anniversary?

There's multiple timelines. RBY-BW2 is one such timeline.

In another, Platinum is created after DP Lucas/Dawn went back to the past, Hisui, and caused a butterfly effect.

>>57970366 (OP)
>What's your opinion on the Pokémon timeline?
It really isn't a matter of opinion, its there.
The actual one, I mean, not yours and >>57970374
poketuber headcanon.

Who's right, Matsumiya or Masuda?

>>57970380

>>57970374
>redditspacing
>retarded
Imagine my shock

>>57970380
Both because they aren't opposited.
And both are more correct than poketubers.

>>57970385

>he doesn't know what redditspacing is

Newfags these days

ORAS and USUM outright confirmed multiverse theory

>>57970395
It was BW, play the games instead of listening to poketubers. Also, OP was asking about the timeline, not the multiverse.

>>57970395
The multiverse just splits based on games and shit but the timeline placement of the stories is the same
Also BW already confirmed parallel worlds with their time machine (not to confuse with GS time machine, but yes with SV time machine)

>>57970380
>>57970382
Both. The timeline has always been
>gen 1/3
>gen 2/4
>BW
>BW2 (+ XY in megatimeline)
etc etc but that doesn't mean it's not a little wacky and they mostly don't base the story based on it

>>57970366 (OP)
Useless fluff. All for timelines in ongoing series but this is not one of them

>>57970366 (OP)
how come when they all arrive in pasio, the kanto characters don't look 30 years older if the paldea characters are also there?

>>57970554
are you a new bred of stupid???

>>57970366 (OP)
Like the names used here. Fun.

Honestly, I think the preoccupation with things like timelines and canon is sily.

>>57970366 (OP)
There is no timeline. GF doesn't care and neither should you. Also there's multiple timelines anyway.

>>57970443
Its very wacky if you take the one poketubers told you, yeah.

>>57970565
Did somebody say bred?

>>57970395
It was confirmed since gen 2.

>>57970366 (OP)
The idea that Gens I and III and II and IV happen at the same time as each other is really funny to me.
Red and Gold are just chilling fighting random thugs while Brendan and Lucas are trying to stop gods from starting the apocalypse on the other side of the country.

>>57970602
>>57970591
This is literally from the teraleak you dumb autists >>57970443

>>57970399
If anyone have played BW it wouldn't be the worst selling main entry so far

>>57970618
Yeah, for BW's development.
Meanwhile, this is a literal game freak writer discussing the timeline post XY release >>57970380

>>57970443
I get what they're trying to do but the idea that RSE Hoenn has dedicated Pokemon breeders and only like 3 years later does Elm disover Pokemon eggs in Johto just doesn't sit right with me.

>>57970620
15 million people is definitely someone anon.
>>57970625
A lot of that was changed on the HGSS version.

>>57970616
>Red having a final match with his childhood friend while Brendan sees two different apocalypses colliding before his eyes
>Gold having a vacation in Japan's capital while Lucas witnesses Satan kidnap an autist who almost causes the destruction of reality

>>57970618
And they dropped the concept after BW. Who gives a fuck?

>>57970627
True, but when you play DP (not sure if this changed in Platinum) some NPCs will still refer to Elm as the expert on Pokemon eggs and they still treat it as this new crazy thing - mostly the guy that gives you the Happiny egg

>>57970625
Different timeline bro, in HGSS (same timeline as FRLG and thus RSE) eggs are already well known

>>57970631
>and they [headcanon]

>>57970635
>>57970443

>>57970630
Right after Blue beats Lance he gets a call from Steven like
>hey man shit's getting kinda crazy, you think the Kanto champion can come help out?
Then he just looks back and sees Blue in the other room jacking himself off over being the "strongest trainer in the world"

>>57970624
>literally the SAME timeline, just one uses all game versions and the other doesn't
Seek help

>>57970643
>literally the SAME timeline, just one uses all game versions and the other doesn't
Please point out where are BW2 and XY in >>57970443's pic

>>57970366 (OP)
>LGPE doesn't have Red or Blue
>Red is in HGSS

???

>>57970639
Find another image like that in the leak from gen 6 onwards. I'll fucking wait.

>>57970642
>>57970630
>>57970616
One think we can use to guess the exact time frame of these two games is that canonically being a Champion used to work like in Paldea (but beating only four guys not five), it's only in Kanto that they decide to add the most recent Champion to the gauntlet so everyone who wants to become one has to beat the previous, now reigning Champion, then the other regions decided to copy Kanto's idea after Red and Green's match (or Chase and Trace's in LGPE).
So any allusion or hint of Steven being part of the pokemon league should be taken as indicative of that point of time happening after Red became Champion.

>>57970565
sure, but that's irrelevant. if the paldean games take place 3 decades after the kanto games, then why, in a setting where the paldean characters are the same age as they are in their original games, aren't the kantonian characters 3 decades older than they are in their original games?

>>57970644
>no no no you see it's not the same timeline because it didn't cover the games that didn't exist back then
You fucking insane schizo

>>57970642
Hey, if my childhood friend rival with that has obvious sexual tension with me started jacking himself off in the other room, I definitely wouldn't be moving to an entirely different region.

>>57970656
Oh, so the context of the chart matters now?

>>57970647
>b-b-but prove my negative
We don't even have to, SM Sina and Dexio mention the group from XY and SM Grimsley is canonically from a couple years after BW2 which means they still had a timeline in mind back then and wanted Alola years after the events of XY and BW2. Then Sword Shield had Type Null with documents stolen from Alola, as well as proper research about the ultrashit from Mohn and the events of SM, which tells us they made Galar with the idea of being after Alola. And then if you go to the academy's library in Paldea you can find a book Sonia wrote with the events of Galar games
>Kanto/Hoenn
>Johto/Sinnoh
>Unova
>Unova2/Kalos
>Alola
>Galar
>Paldea
We don't even need leaks lmao the fucking games already confirm they didn't change their mind and there's still a timeline

>>57970668
> the fucking games
You're on /vp/. Those are irrelevant.

>>57970611
No

>>57970654
Okay retard, it's actually pretty simple. That gachaslop game not only is non-canon, but even if it was canon its story has time-space misplacement of characters, so the timeline doesn't matter there, you can have Red from when he meet Ethan (HGSS) team up with Elio, the kid who meet a fully adult Red in Alola many years later (SM). It doesn't matter, it's fucking time travel

>>57970677
Don't forget Ash being there too when he's from a different continuity entirely.

>>57970681
Or Chase and Elaine. Hell Rei and Akari are there straight from Hisui, you don't have to know a single thing about Masters' "story" to know there's bullshit to mix and match characters regardless of their origin

>>57970668
That doesn't proof the existence of a canonical timeline with the exact time relation to each other. Just that these things happened at some point in the past.

You don't have to go full Pepe Silvia mode and trying to puzzle the pieces together. GF doesn't think about it at all. They're just like "haha wouldn't it be funny if we referenced this thing from a past game here?"
You're thinking about this more than GF does. It's a waste of time to make any sense out of it other than purely the order of events.

>>57970554
>>57970677
Hoopa brings characters and Pokémon to Pasio.
It is implied that Lear's Hoopa is special and can make portals to other timelines and dimensions. That's also why it can do shit like bringing shiny legendaries to Pasio on a whim. It might have access to infinite alternate realities, which is why it can just find shiny legendaries in some of them.

>>57970685
>-there's no timeline!
>+What about the leaked timeline they made during gen 5?
>-OKAY there was a timeline but not anymore!
>+What about the factual timeline you can see in every new game still?
>-OKAY THERE'S A TIMELINE BUT they don't have exact dates haha...
I accept your concession.

>>57970691
>OKAY THERE'S A TIMELINE BUT they don't have exact dates haha...
Yes, that's what I was saying. Glad you finally understand.

>>57970646
I just wanted to include the most recent games, but you can have this one with FRLG. PikaVee does have Red, tho.

>>57970696
No, that's what you changed your argument to after simplying saying they "dropped the timeline" after gen BW, which even with your current argument is untrue because BW2 also gives us an exact timegap between BW and BW2, and Grimsley concept art also gives us the gap between XY/BW2 and SM.
So if anything you would have said they dropped it after SM, but you didn't even say that, you are just a retard changing your argument until you can say you are right. And you are still full of shit.

>>57970685
>That doesn't proof the existence of a canonical timeline with the exact time relation to each other. Just that there's a timeline
>>57970697
Both are retarded misinfo anyawys.

why is that every time I enter a timeline thread there's some autist who doesn't understand a simplified timeline can use all or just some of the versions of each game without trying to match them ie putting RB and RSE instead of FRLG and RSE?
Is it always the same autist or are there many retards like this?

>>57970778
Many, has been a thing since 2014.

>>57970778
Because autists only think in strict "logic". It NEEDS to make perfect sense in their limited mind, and there can only be one solution they see as "correct".

>>57970778
You can always tell because the first thing he does is talking about youtubers for some reason

>>57970382
>Haha I just don't know.jpg

>>57970847
Poketubers pushed that headcanon a lot.

>>57970382
I don't think they wanna acknowledge that Oak is probably dead.

>>57970847
>for some reason
It's a simple boogeyman, he doesn't get why Matsumiyan would list GS betweem RS and DP (>>57970380) instead of using HGSS unless THAT'S EXACTLY how the timeline goes, but he saw some retarded youtuber being smarter than himself and separating them by timelines so he automatically assumes anyone who believes something this alien must have gotten the idea from the original youtuber he watched, it's the only reasonable explanation in his genuinely autistic brain.

>>57970366 (OP)
I headcanoned that LGPE is actually just a video game in the universe.

>>57970385
What the fuck is Redditspacing?
How's it retarded? It makes sense based on available evidence.

>>57970866
>he
I wish, many people outright claim those kanji mean HGSS. Pic related is the version that usually circulates.

>>57970880
There's no world in which ORAS is that much further back compared to XY when XY literally has them discovering mega evolution...

>>57970366 (OP)
When did Cynthia die for good in the pokemon timeline? What timeline did aldith become the new Sinnoh Champion?

>>57970554
Non-canon spin off or an alternate universe.

Only canon things are the lore tidbits (i.e. we find out someone's favorite food) and how two characters would interact if they were to meet. The actual evenrs of the game aren't canon.

>>57970602
What timeline is that? One based on ingame evidence?

>>57970366 (OP)
It's retarded.

>>57970856
Nah there's no way he's dead, he was 50yo in Johto according to the teraleak so he will be only 77 by the time the 30th anniversary game happens.
Remember fucking Spenser is supposed to be 88yo, they aren't gonna kill Oak (not even offscreen) so soon.

>>57970874
>What the fuck is Redditspacing?
How fucking new are you????

>>57970867
LGPE opens up with you being isekaid into the pokemon world as you try to start playing a Kanto game with Oak lecturing you about the pokemon world, which sounds like non-canon indeed but the teraleak shows Rei and Akari are the same, they were playing also a Kanto game with Oak when they are kidnapped by Arceus and sent to Hisui so I would say multiples layers of reality are canon

>>57970663
Nobody said context doesn't matter, I don't know what context you think it changes the fact these are the same timeline, just one made early into gen 5 and another one made in gen 6, but I don't care about your schizoid delusions. Same timeline, same order of regions/gens, same shit

>>57970916
>50yo
What?
Isn't he supposed to be the same age as Agatha?

>>57970944
That's what his character info from the teraleak said, 50yo IN GEN 2, so 47yo in gen 1. If Agatha is the same age as Oak then she needs to stop smoking, drinking and doing whatever drugs she clearly does daily lmao

>>57970677
>>57970689
It's been years since i touched that piece of shit, but I suppose that kinda makes sense. Idk, it seems like their getting their quota of bringing back old characters, but in Pasio, they'll be forever unchanging. Emmet in PLA was nice and the legends games having the possibility of being in the future gives me hope, but I loved Alola Red and want more characters to age.

Yawnies been btfo like 3 threads just this evening lol

>>57970990
yawnies not itt doe

>>57970944
>>57970964
We at least know she's alive in gen 5 because the ghost type elite four talks about her and her sister

>>57970366 (OP)
Timeline bad
Shitty writing good

>>57970646
>LGPE doesn't have Red or Blue
Imagine being this retarded.

The timeline of events is fairly straightforward. However, which universe each game takes place in is a bit more fucky. Firstly, anyone saying there's a regular and mega universe or timeline or whatever is just blatantly incorrect, we've got outstanding evidence that each version is probably their own universe and probably even more than that. I could go down a laundry list of examples over the entire franchise but BW alone basically illustrates every single point I want to make perfectly.
>Each version is it's own universe
As documented in this GameFaqs thread
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/989552-pokemon-black-version/59042387
I want to note the exact phrasing of this
"I've heard that in another world, there's another Opelucid City that looks very futuristic."
"I've heard that in another world, there's another Opelucid City that looks very old-timey."
This isn't something that's used very often, and BW is so stiffly translated that it probably uses the exact same words consistently in Japanese if you want to go check. So keep "another world" in mind, maybe check a Japanese text dump.
>Events of other games happen regardless of what version you're playing
In both Black and White, which we've established are different universes, Cynthia mentions events from Platinum
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Cynthia/Quotes#Pok%C3%A9mon_Black,_White,_Black_2,_and_White_2
"You certainly bear a resemblance to that Trainer who faced Giratina..."
While technically the player could have faced it in DP, Cynthia was only there for it in Platium so there's no convincing explanation for why she would know otherwise.
This isn't even getting into how many different universes we see in USUM, it makes Zinnia look fucking insane by just seeing one other one.
There's one more thing that's insanely dubious and the thread autist will get mad at me for bringing it up but I really feel the need to so I'll do it in a separate post with enough asterisks to placate him.

>>57971505
>Each player's save might be it's own universe
Normally I'm not one to put much stock into what NPCs related to multiplayer features say, but almost all of them state that you're just connecting to another trainer somewhere else in the world. This isn't really the case for BW Entralink, which contains a strange dialogue that's way different than the rest
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Entralink
"The Entralink is a mysterious place where you can connect with someone's world."
"If you go to someone's world by passing through this island, you will be able to meet an adventurer in the world."
"And you can help that adventurer."
"Yes! If you want to help, cross the bridge in this island and go to someone's world."
This feels really fucking different than any other multiplayer feature including B2W2 Entralink which is explained very differently
"It is also a place where you can hone your skills by helping out nearby adventurers."
This is also notable for how different said multiplayer features are in both versions. In BW you literally walk over a bridge into another universe, and I haven't got my DSi or old 3DS unpacked at the moment but looking at a YouTube video shows you see the town in the opposite version style. This is very different than B2W2 where Funfest Missions function in such a way that implies you're just fucking around with other people in your universe (you know, like every other multiplayer thing) and the bridges are just fucking gone. This feature is frankly baffling and I have no good explanation for it aside from taking it at face value, but given how every single other multiplayer feature keeps up the kayfabe of you interacting with other people in a single world rather than trading with different universes I feel like I can make the case that each player's save might be it's own separate universe. Or maybe it's the original sidequest I posted that implied it, I don't fucking know, I'll let the thread autist sort this out.

>>57970922
I've been using 4chan since before vp existed. I'm assuming Redditspacing is a new term?

>>57970996
Yes I am. Black and White ruined the timeline.

>>57970944
Agatha is just a short goth chick with some face lines, that's pretty good for 50.

>>57970382
>"it's too complicated for my smooth brain, so it's just nonsensical and i don't think about it"

>>57970380
sounds like the answer is Matsumiya.

>>57970366 (OP)
>ORAS in 1997
Impossible. The year 2002 is mentioned at least once and said to be long (11 - 12 years) past.
>>57970380
>>57970382
Masuda because they can't get a timeline correct since Gen 3.

>>57970380
they're both right.

One is gimmick mechanic timeline.
One is original flavor timeline

>>57970378
it's not poketuber headcanon that there are different timelines. It's literally a plotpoint in the Delta episode, they were going to just send the meteor to the RSE alternate timeline with infinity energy and the "Link Cable", but there were moral objections so Zinnia did her plan with Rayquaza.

not to mention it comes up in guzzlord's dimension lore.

Hell, alternate timelines is even a major part of USUM and the explanation for Paradox mon.

>>57971685
new in that it's been in use for about 9 years now, since the reddfugees first invaded, sure.

>>57970366 (OP)
Let's Go fagshit is an entirely different universe where only let's go fagshit happens. Otherwise correct in broad strokes

>>57971814
And weirdly I've never seen the term before

>>57971860
here it is 7 years back in the archives, as far as it would let me go back from a search, and it's a comment complaining that someone is a newfag for not know the term, even back then in 2018.

I don't know what to tell you anon.

>>57971887
>inb4 photoshop
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/text/redditspacing/page/200/#

>>57970366 (OP)
I don't care too much about the timeline or consider it super necessary (I guess it's kind of interesting to see how the games connect to each other but it just doesn't come up that much compared to some other series), but I both game timelines in this thread are better than the shit Pokemon Special did where the timeline is based on strict release order, including the remakes.

>>57971860
you post with the cadence of someone who spends all day in a pokemon-specific discord server angry at others not reading the rules before posting. go back, you're not fooling anyone you colossal faggot.

>>57970931
>Nobody said context doesn't matter
Ignoring the context is the only way >>57970443
proves anything about BW2 and XY on.

>>57971808
>it's not poketuber headcanon that there are different timelines.
Nobody said this. Stop insisting on this defense.

>>57970366 (OP)
I cared until they brought multiverse shit into the mix, now it's meaningless.

>>57971505
>everyone saying [what gen 6 said] is incorrect, now let me talk about [what gen 5 said]
Retardbro... Why would anyone give a shit about the game's info on the multiverse from gen 5 but not gen 6?

>>57972364
How you insane fuck

>>57972672
I already explained that.

>>57972690
No, you fucking didn't. The context of that timeline is that they are listing all games without worrying about specific connections like having only Platinum before BW, just like OP just shows the most recent games and has stuff like Let's Go before HGSS, the context of all the timelines in this thread is a rough placement of the stories anyone without autism can understand perfectly.
You are mentally ill and need help.

>>57972704
Anyone that isn't mentally ill could get that a graph without B2W2 and XY doesn't can't explain B2W2 XY.
Only someone insanely focused on pushing a specific headcanon could even conceive otherwise.

>>57972704
Be careful he's gonna talk about his favourite poketuber to hate again

>>57972720
>graph without B2W2 and XY doesn't can't explain B2W2 XY
Genuine mental illness, as I said.

>>57972728
Then you could actually point out what I asked in >>57970644

>>57972739
"Then" isn't even gramatically correct as an answer to my post either you insane fuck and someone already answered that anyway, the timeline is old so it couldn't have all games, we still have a more modern timeline with the rest of gen 5 and gen 6 and evidence from the games telling us the game order you psychofuck

>>57972752
>he timeline is old so it couldn't have all games
Then the timeline can't address future games and thus isn't evidence for those, only for the games included in.
Its not that hard
>we still have a more modern timeline
Which isn't the one pointed out.

>>57970366 (OP)
It's kinda funny when you think about how many world-ending crises have seemingly been happening within the span of about 30 years in the Pokemon world.

>>57972761
>well if I only look at a single piece of evidence and not the whole picture with other proof I surely can pretend the truth isn't out there for anyone with eyes to find right?
Dude just take your meds, I swear everyone in your life will be happier if you just start taking your meds again, it's not that hard

>>57970887
>There's no world in which ORAS is that much further back compared to XY when XY literally has them discovering mega evolution...
Retcon lmao

>>57972767
To be fair most of those get stopped early enough to be a big deal

>>57972799
>still can't answer

>>57972851
Plenty of people answered you are just running away from your meds instead of from your head's voices

>>57972941
Please refer to me to the posts that answered.

>>57972945
Literally any reply to your autistic ramblings, BW2 and XY is in the timeline also from GF. Will you take your meds now?

>>57972851
By definition BW2 happen after BW1

>>57972995
>Literally any reply to your autistic ramblings
Then you could point them out.
>>57973001
I never said otherwise.

>>57973001
>>57972995
Oh my god stop replying to this autist he has been baiting you for A DECADE

>>57973026
Anon, its a very simple question.
The fact that it couldn't be answered nor the error corrected shows who really isn't trying to have an honest discussion.

Hey autist what's your timeline? I always see you complain over timelines but you are so retarded at expressing yourself I don't even know what the fuck you even want the timeline to look like

>>57973133
The correct timeline is
PLA
Gen 1-Gen 3
Gen 2-Gen 4
BW
B2W2-XY
Gen 7
Gen 8
Gen 9

>>57973144
Is that not what everyone else fucking says?

>>57973157
Not really. For instance, OP has literal years in the pic and clearly wants to force shit to take place on its release date.
The order being roughly correct doesn't make the whole thing correct because, despite what headcanonfags have been pushing for a decade, being right about one thing doesn't make you right about everything.

>>57970387
>Newfags these days
You are redditspacing you retard.

>>57973144
>>57973168
So you agree with what everyone says except the release order which is clearly correct too since
>gen 1 talks about the moonlanding disproving stuff like "Pokemon takes place in the future" and was released in 1996
>gen 2 is confirmed to happen three years later and was released in 1999
>gen 5 is confirmed to happen about a decade later and was released in 2010
>the other part of gen 5 and gen 6 were released in 2012 and 2013 and gen 5 second part specifically is confirmed to be two years after the first part
>gen 7 is confirmed to happen two years later and about 20 years after Porygon's creation, and was released in 2015
>each subsequent generation goes in the same order as it was released too
>even Legends Arceus is confirmed to be set "150 years ago" in a document from 2019 and that fits with 1869 being when Ezo (now Hokkaido) was colonized just like we see in Hisui (now Sinnoh)
Thank you, you can leave now. Or go back to your bait again, or maybe prepare the damage control for when ZA casually mentions it has been a dozen years since Team Flare disbanded lmao

>>57973217
>So you agree with what everyone says except the release order
No, I disagree on other things too. I said "for instance" because I used OP as an example. Learn to read.

>>57973228
You were asked what's your prefered timeline, autist, and you gave us the same timeline as everyone else but without dates

>>57973233
Yes, I was asked for a timeline and I indeed gave a timeline.
I wasn't asked what's wrong with every single post in this thread.
That's what happens when you know how to read. Maybe if you ever learn, you wont have much trouble getting a game for kids.

>>57973238
>I was asked for a timeline, not every single problem in my schizo brain
Which is why people reacted to your most recent posts in regards of the timeline you provided and nothing else, are you fucking insane? How are YOU trying to give others lessons?

>>57973144
>>57973168
>the correct timeline is exactly what you guys said I just am too dumb to get into details but you are wrong ha ha...
Mental illness.

>>57973245
>Which is why people reacted to your most recent posts in regards of the timeline you provided and nothing else
Yeah, by saying I somehow agree with everyone just because I partially agree with someone on something.
Totally sane.

>>57973257
Please point me out what posts say the same.

>>57972660
Because Gen 5's depiction lines up with Gen 7 as well as every other game before and since, while Gen 6's sole example is from a game not written by the usual writer and also from the most unreliable narrator humanly possible based on basically nothing substantial. The fucking Entralink thing is more convincing and that's the thread autist's bugbear. This also isn't getting into Let's Go which I'm going to say isn't really canon to anything but the entire thing is just fucking weird from start to finish that I can't say for sure.

>>57973264
We told you your timeline is the same without dates and that's what you wrote, if you have other problems not depicted in your own timeline you should have included them there retardo

>>57970976
>Emmet in PLA

>>57973287
>We told you your timeline is the same without dates
Compared to OPs. And there's other differences.
> if you have other problems not depicted in your own timeline you should have included them there retardo
No because what was asked for was the timeline, not my issues with other people's post.
I only posted my issues with OP as an example. Look up the meaning of "for instance".
But OP's post isn't the only post in the thread, there are others. So me agreeing on some aspects of the OP doesn't mean I agree with every single thing everyone ever said. Its not that hard.

>>57973144
Gen 1 Kanto and Gen 3 Kanto are different timelines.

>>57973297
This retarded headcanon is based on assumptions that were never true in the first place and every single gen after 6 has debunked.


1-Its based on the assumption that the events on a game can't be the version in more than one universe. The matsumiya timeline includes Black and White, two games explicitly said to be paralel worlds, meaning that isn't a factor.
2-Its also based on the notion that Zinnia's statement applies to all remakes which is wrong too as the Matsumiya timeline includes the originals despite the fact that B2W2 use remake designs. The leaked document from Bw also reafirms that the remakes from gen 1 and 2 are interchangeable. This is not helped by the fact that the matsumiya tweet is usually posted with the covers from the remakes despite the tweet having kanji.
3-It also assumes mega evolutions are the only way a pokemon can become stronger; meaning Colress should've been researching mega evos in B2W2. This is not only retarded but Gen 7 has him literally say Z-moves(itself already another power up method) might be stronger than mega evos.
4-The fourth assumption was the existence of unseen "Mega Unova" or "Mega SInnoh" events that would be feature in the remakes. Making up a non-existent game would already be seen as crazy in any other fanbase, but when the Sinnoh remakes came(the coveted Mega Sinnoh) came out, they had no megas.
5-Finaly, there's the absolutely retarded assumption that games should have megas as a mechanic to be part of a world with megas. Which not only is retarded on its own but even you had to accept it was wrong due to Roaring Moon's dex entry. If you had an ounce of honesty, you'd at least be rewriting your entire headcanon because this assumption was key.

Your headcanon only works if you make this baseless assumptions that go directly against actual material we have.

>>57973291
jesus christ are you so fucking stupid can't you see you keep selfowning? You were asked about your timeline. You posted your timeline. So people react to your timeline. Which is basically the same as in the rest of the thread.
>b-but I have other problems too! With other stuff!
And as you yourself said nobody asked about them, just the timeline, you fucking subhuman

>>57973297
We know but he thinks some youtuber who used to bully him is the origin of the idea so he doesn't like it

>>57973311
> So people react to your timeline.
By saying shit that's not there.
>Which is basically the same as in the rest of the thread.
No, it isn't.
>And as you yourself said nobody asked about them
No, but you claim its the same as everyone else's when it isn't.
> just the timeline
And, when asked, I gave the fucking timeline, what's wrong with that? I literally asked multiple times where in >>57970443 are XY and BW2W mentioned and no one could answer that.

>>57973318
>he still doesn't see it no matter how many times he selfowns
jesus

>>57973272
>because I personally don't like to consider gen 6 as canon please understand :(
lmao

>>57973314
You don't "know" shit. That's headcanon. If you agree with the headcanon then you aren't sourcing directly from the original material but someone else's headcanon. Whether that person is a poketuber or not is irrelevant.

>>57973322
Guess I'm the only one in this thread who can answer a simple question.

>>57973303
Oh great the schizo is tired of making up people and now is making up arguments to disprove

>>57973345
What's the current narrative then?

>If you don't agree with me on everything you're a crazy schizo but you agree with me on everything and I will call you a schizo anyways.

>>57973350
That you need new meds instead of making up strawmans

>>57973360
nice try but nobody has even agreed with you on anything, ever

So ignoring the schizo do you consider the GB games their own bunch of timelines too or just the pre-mega and post-mega timelines?

>>57973406
I like considering them as their own I know logically there's no need to but it just feel right

>>57973460
It surely explains the aesthetic difference and small changes to canon like Elm and the eggs
>GB only has Kanto and Johto = Everything looks mostly the same, eggs are just discovered by Elm, pokedex only has 251 pokemon
>GBA and DS has Hoenn between them and Sinnoh at same time as Johto = Oak already knows about eggs and has a dex with more than 300 pokemon, 3 years later tech is more advanced and dex has Sinnoh stuff too

>>57973406
i'd say compatibility are the best way to define timelines.

Time Machine era [No natures or abilities]
RBY -> GSC

PNC/GTS era [Contest/Musical Timeline. Has Sevii islands.]
RSE-FRLG (creating the PNC link) -> DPPl-HGSS (red gyarados as cryptid on tv) -> BW -> BW2

Bank/Home era [Mega/Fairy Type Timeline]
XY-ORAS-LGPE(???. Red has already beaten the league. But did not foil Rocket's plot to steal the one and only masterball prototype, that's Chase. But it has to still be early on in the timeline because the other two games have masterballs. But also there are megas, which had only been very recently discovered in XY, because Sycamore thinks it only happens in Kalos? It's possible LGPE is simply in its own timeline or noncanon entirely.)-> USUM (red is like 30, still has megas)
Mega timeline is guaranteed a separate timeline from GTS, not only because of the whole Zinnia thing, but also Rainbow Rocket versions of gen 3 evil team leaders look like their GTS era counterparts, NOT their ORAS version. There are at minimum 2 versions of Maxie and Archie running around the multiverse, even if you assume the entire GTS timeline is a doomed timeline where the heroes never win, which is unfounded, especially because Cyrus winning precludes Ghetsis and Lysandre winning. It might almost be better to talk about these like timeline clusters, or alphas and offshoots. Rainbow Rocket's leaders were from the same cluster as GTS era, presumably doomed offshoots.

Presumably SWSH and SV are mega timeline? There's no megas or z moves mentioned. It's possible they exist in one of the other two I suppose.

Similarly, PLA and BDSP clearly have some kind of timeline connection between them, because they have lore interaction. But I don't know where they fit in any of the 3, if not perhaps even their own because PLA involves time travel. They are now home compatible, but both weren't for the longest time. Also Go is home compatible as are VC gen 1 & 2 so not the best litmus test.

>>57973602
SV has mentions of both megaevolution and Z-moves.

>>57973602
You are wrong about Bank and GTS being different timelines Bridget connects both

>>57973672
Different timeline Bridget clearly just like RSE and ORAS are different timelines

>>57973654
>SV has mentions of both megaevolution and Z-moves.
Is it in teal mask or something? I never bought the DLC, but I don't remember it mentioned at any point during the main game.

>>57973700
main game
>Upon being defeated: "You're as flashy and bright as a 10,000,000-volt Thunderbolt, friendo!
That's Iono referencing a Z-move
>Roaring Moon Dex: According to an article in a dubious magazine, this Pokémon has some connection to a phenomenon that occurs in a certain region.

>>57970443
>beta RS was originally meant to be 7 years before RGB.
>scrapped since it wouldn't make sense.
you think they could fill in the gaps inbetween DP and BW?

>>57973672
>implying there's only one Bridgette
she's Lanette's older sister. A timeline without Bridgette would be a timeline without a computer system in Hoenn.

>>57973700
Iono references the Pikachu's Z-move and you can get the electric Z-move pose as emote in Indigo Disk, plus Roaring Moon and Iron Valiant are cryptids based on Kalos' Megas

Fun timeline fact due to the way Cosmoem evolves there are two branches of the main timeline and each version in in a specific branch that means Sun Sword Scarlet are in one and Moon Shield and Violet are another

>>57973782
And in US you get Cyrus with Dialga, Ghetsis with Zekrom and Lysandre with Xerneas while they have Palkia, Reshiram and Yveltal in UM. That tells us which version is THE MAIN one and which one isn't it
>Red -> Gold -> Diamond -> White -> X -> Sun -> Sword -> Scarlet
>Green -> Silver -> Pearl -> Black -> Y -> Moon -> Shield -> Violet
The only question is which one is the main version in gen 3 but it's obviously Sapphire

>>57973846
>>57973782
LA also destroys Sinnoh Temple in a way that resembles the Spear Pillar from Diamond and Brilliant Diamond too btw, not the way you see it in Pearl, Shining Pearl or Platinum, so yeah you can see which one is canon here

>>57973715
>>57973779
Oh yeah, you right.

anything like that for SWSH?

>>57973854
SwSh is an isolated piece of shit the only thing you get is a little of flavour text when you get a legendary or UB in the dynamax lair

>>57970374
What was up with BDSP - PLA? Those remakes really piss me off and we we got better.
>Charon and some Frontier Brains have ancestors
>Volo's main Pokémon, Togepi, was once given to the main character by Cynthia, who also uses Togekiss
>The space-time rift on Mt. Coronet is similar to the black rift on Mt. Coronet depicted in the official Platinum illustration, “The Torn World." https://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Torn_World.png

There are some other references in the Japanese that I'm not sure if make sense in English, like the names of the Miss Fortune sisters, Coin(オウメ Oume), Charm (オマツ Omatsu), and Clover (オタケ Otake), being shared by regular trainers in the Battle Frontier (Pic related) https://wiki.xn--rckteqa2e.com/wiki/バトルフロンティアのトレーナー一覧_(第四世代), or Rowan having a sweet tooth for Rage Candy Bars in Platinum further connecting Kamado's birthplace being in Johto (he takes on a Kansai dialect during some parts of the game.)
And in BW
>Cynthia mentions watching a trainer defeat Giratina, which she only does in Platinum

>>57973846
This is a bit of a stretch but if you look at Dynamax adventures, Dialga is in Sword and Palkia is in Shield so if you use this logic and work backwards, Kyogre is Shield Exclusive and Groudon is Sword, if Sword is the canon timeline then Ruby is in the Sword line and Sapphire is in the Shield line

>>57973895
But then does get fucked because in ORAS Dialga is in AS and Palkia is in OR, so no clue there's some contradiction

>>57970366 (OP)
>restructuration

>>57973895
I wouldn't use pokemon availability as canon indicator honestly

>>57973912
don't you know what a restructuration is

>>57973907
Kyogre is also in HeartGold while Groudon is in SoulSilver, and Latias (from Sapphire) is in White 2 while Latios (from Ruby) is in Black 2 BUT then in USUM, Kyogre is in UltraMoon and Groudon is in UltraSun so we can't really trust this shit

The wording on the Legend Plate implies that Arceus watches over each world in the multiverse.
"From all creations, over all creations, does the Original One watch over all"

CreationS. plural.

>>57973912
as in the league was restructured. it had a structure. and then it was changed to have a new structure.

>>57972292
I don't use Discord. I prefer meeting with my friends irl and occasionally calling or texting if we can't meet up. Most of my online time is spent on 4chan or whatever game I'm currently playing. Occasionally researching random trivia.

>>57973949
>>57973907
>>57973895
Of all those HGSS is the only one I would count because none of those encounters have any lore implications, they just happen randomly like a tall grass encounter while HGSS tower at least has some lore but I would still not consider these as decent proof for anything like Team Rainbow Rocket admins having specific teams based on your game

>>57973846
>Kyogre and Latias are in the dex before Groudon and Latios
>Team Magma grunt's lines are literally copied from Team Aqua's
>Team Magma's HQ is likewise a pirate hideout, you either play Emerald or the evil team lair is clearly designed for Team Aqua
>also most of the "events" where you find the villains are for Team Aqua, even those related with land have an excuse (they are in the volcano to STOP it) while you have stupid stuff like Team Magma in the oceanim museum. Emerald even has to make up an a new event in Mossdeep Spacecenter to give Team Magma something
>same about where you find the legendary, Kyogre is always found in Seafloor Cavern, while they had to make a new place for Groudon in Emerald
Team Magma and Groudon just make no fucking sense in any game except in Emerald, Hoenn's games clearly use Sapphire version as basis.

>>57973406
>consider
Game Freak writes the series.

>>57973384
>nobody agreed with you, you just agree with everyone
meds

>>57974474
I won't even ask what the fuck you think that means

>>57970366 (OP)
This one is alright

>>57974461
it's like how Ho-Oh has major story significance and even shows up in Ruins of Alph puzzle, and you have to go investigate some random obscure set of islands for Lugia, almost like it's a gen 1 legendary bird.

And then as Anon said, Ghetsis and originally N having the black dragon of Truth while Hilbert has the white dragon of Ideals ("Evil humans exists, so pokemon should live separately! / Evil humans exist because the world is a cruel unfeeling place, the evil rule by right!") "Believe that people can be better and the world can be a better place"

And yvetal killing everything as ultimate weapon, by draining the life away for itself oblivion wing style, resulting in the two who were at its epicenter receiving immortality, that makes sense. Xerneas, not so much. Or at all.

>>57974874
You got your dragons mixed up
Also the Ultimate Weapon just uses the legendary pokemon as bateries, it's not an extension of the legendary pokemon itself, and Yveltal doesn't make sense as battery given his entire thing is absorbing life energy not giving it like Xerneas

>>57974874
Xerneas seems like the obvious shoe in for the canon legendary since it's fairy type in the games that introduced fairy type idk

>>57970964
>>57970916
What other ages do we have from the leak?

>>57975040
Official ages
Red, Green, Blue, FireRed, LeafGreen, Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, OmegaRuby, AlphaSapphire
>Red: Confirmed 11
>Delia: 29 (anime)
>Green Oak: Confirmed 11
>Daisy Oak: Confirmed 11+
>Misty: 12 (manga)
>Brock: 15 (anime)
>Sabrina: 21 (manga)
>Primo: Confirmed 27
>Bill: 15 (manga) in
>Brendan: Confirmed 12
>May: Confirmed 12
>Norman: 37, then 36
>Norman's wife: 32
>Birch: Confirmed 35
>Max: 9, 7 (anime)
>Wally: Confirmed 10
>Wanda: 18
>Briney: Confirmed 72
>Roxanne: 14
>Brawly: 22
>Wattson: 67
>Flannery: 25
>Winona: 16
>Tate: 10
>Liza: 10
>Wallace: 34
>Lisia: 13
>Sidney: 27
>Phoebe: 14
>Glacia: 32
>Drake: 53
>Steven Stone: 25
>Joseph Stone: Confirmed 52
>Salty: 58
>Stern: Confirmed 57
>Takao Cozmo: Confirmed 40
>Aarune: Aarune: 24, then confirmed 25
>Aqua/Magma grunts: 20
>Tabitha: Confirmed 27
>Courtney: 22
>Maxie: 34
>Matt: 27
>Shelly: 34
>Archie: 34
>Greta: 13
>Brandon: 46
>Spenser: 88
>Zinnia: Unknown ("appear to be in late teens")

>>57975054
Gold, Silver, Cystal, HeartGold, Soul Silver, Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, BrilliantDiamond, ShiningPearl
>Ethan: 12
>Lyra: 12
>Silver: Confirmed "about the protagonist's age"
>Pryce: Confirmed 50+
>Clair: Early 20s
>Karen: 25-26 (manga)
>Will: 22-23 (manga)
>Maximo: 30
>Lucas: 12
>Dawn: 12
>Barry: 12
>Rowan: Confirmed 60 (originally 70)
>Oak: Confirmed 50
>Roark: 15
>Gardenia: 18
>Wake: 37
>Maylene: 10
>Fantina: 32
>Candice: 16
>Byron: 51
>Volkner: 24
>Aaron: 19
>Bertha: 56
>Flint: Mid 20s (confirmed 20+ in anime)
>Lucian: Early 30s
>Cynthia: 28
>Mars: 22
>Jupiter: 24
>Saturn: 25
>Charon: 71
>Cyrus: Confirmed 27
>Caitlin Dendrobium: Confirmed 14 (originally 17)
>Darach: 25
>Argenta: 42
>Thorton: 14
>Dahlia: 24
>Looker: 43

>>57975057
Black, White
>Hilbert: Confirmed 14 (originally 15-16)
>Hilda: Confirmed 14 (originally 15-16)
>Cheren: Confirmed 14
>Bianca: Confirmed 14
>Aurea Juniper: 30
>Cedric Juniper: 55
>Loblolly: 20s
>Chili: 15, then 14 ("same as the main character")
>Cylan: 15, then 14 ("same as the main character")
>Cress: 15, then 14 ("same as the main character")
>Lenora: 33, then 32, then 35
>Burgh: 24, then, 22, then 21
>Elesa: 17, then 15
>Clay: 56, then 55
>Skyla: 26, then 22, then 18
>Brycen: 35, then 44
>Iris: 22, then 12, then 11 then 10
>Drayden: 69
>Marshal: 27
>Shauntal: 18
>Grimsley: 27
>Caitlin Dendrobium: Mid 20s
>Alder: 57
>Natural Harmonia Gropius: Confirmed 20

>>57975059
Black 2, White 2, X, Y
>Nate: 12 (manga)
>Rosa: 12 (manga)
>Nate's mom: 35
>Hugh: 15 ("provisional, must be adjusted to suit the protagonist"), 12 (manga)
>Aurea Juniper: 33
>Roxie: 14
>Marlon: About 30
>Colress: Late 20s-early 30s
>Benga: "Same as the main character"
>Calem: 14
>Serena: 14
>Grace: 32
>Shauna: 12
>Trevor: 10
>Tierno: 16
>Sycamore: 35
>Sina: 18
>Dexio: 16
>Viola: 18
>Grant: 22
>Korrina: 14
>Ramos: 65
>Citron: 12
>Bonnie: 7 (anime)
>Valerie: 20
>Olympia: 35-40 ("uncertain")
>Wulfric: 45
>Wikstrom: 35-40
>Malva: 33
>Siebold: 25
>Drasna: 40-45
>Diantha: 20
>Aliana, Bryony, Celosia and Mable: 20s and 30s
>Xerosic: 55-60
>Lysandre: 30
>AZ: Confirmed 3000+ (originally +2000)
>Emma: Confirmed 16
>Morgan: 19
>Dana: 18
>Evelyn: 17
>Nita: 16

>>57975062
Sun, Moon, UltraSun, UltraMoon
>Elio: Confirmed 11
>Elio's mom: 34, then 33
>Hau: Confirmed 11
>Kukui: 32
>Burnett: 30s
>Lillie: 11 (Confirmed "about the protagonist's age")
>Gladion: 16, then 13
>Mohn: 41
>Lusamine: 42 (Confirmed 40+)
>Faba: 53
>Wicke: 43
>Ilima: 13
>Lana: 12
>Mallow: 11, then 14
>Kiawe: 17, then 18
>Sophocles: 11-19
>Acerola: 10, then 11
>Mina: 19, then 17
>Kahili Ginger: 21
>Hala: 77
>Olivia: 26, then 34
>Molayne: 32
>Nanu: 50
>Hapu: 8
>Plumeria: 19
>Guzma: 20-21
>Ryuki: 29, then 26
>Samson Oak: 55
>Red: 20s (contradicts the decade between Platinum and BW)
>Green: 20s (contradicts the decade between Platinum and BW)
>Anabel: 20s
>Looker: 40s (contradicts the decade between Platinum and BW)
>Grimsley: 30s
>Colress: 30s
>Sina: "End of puberty"
>Dexio: "End of puberty"

>>57975063
Sword, Shield, Expanssion Pass
>Opal: Confirmed 88
>Melony: Confirmed 30+
>Mustard: Confirmed 50+

LEGENDS Arceus
>Rei: Implied 15
>Akari: Implied 15
>Calaba: Confirmed 99

Scarlet, Violet, The Hidden Treasure of Area Zero
>Dendra: Confirmed 25
>Ryme: Confirmed 53+
>Tyme: Confirmed 53+
>Poppy: Confirmed 9

>>57970366 (OP)
It's so weird how pic related was actually like 50 years BEFORE Legends Arceus. Pre-westernization Japan really was something else

>>57975074
>Kalos looks like this in circa 990 BC
Pokemon is so much better when it's more like the real world than this full fantasy shit man

>>57975066
>>57975063
>>57975062
>>57975059
>>57975057
>>57975054
Someone with time and care give us the birthyear of all characters

>>57975580
Nah, it's like how Middle Earth in LOTR is supposed to be our earth in the past. The Pokemon world also turned more grounded

>>57973328
It's not even all of Gen 6, XY actually fits perfectly fine with everything else (and even goes out of its way to say fairy is new like Gen 2 did at first, which is not relevant but I think is neat), it even gives us a placement roughly alongside B2W2 in some optional dialogue. ORAS makes a vague statement a certifiably insane character has no real way of knowing (at best she knows of another Hoenn without megas but not only has no idea what universe they're sending the meteor to, she also doesn't know about how many different universes there even are). That's like trusting Lyandre is right about anything in XY based on fucking nothing when everything he says is completely disconnected from reality. SM Lusamine is similarly disconnected from reality and only gets worse once she actually gets poisoned at the end of the story. They're all inherently unreliable, but unfortunately only two of them were intended and it's not Zinnia.

>>57975057
I thought Cynthia was 27?

>>57975981
Champion
A trainer of all-purpose type.
He can use any Pokémon.
Hymen: 28 years old.
She wears black clothes that cannot be dyed in any color.
He is a researcher of the mythology of the Shin-Ou region (partly because he patrols Shin-Ou).
She is from Kannagi Town. Related to the elders.
Cool from both male and female point of view.
Name.
Shirona ...... White Nanten. A plant of the Megillaceae family.
White = image of diamonds and pearls. Contrast between black clothes and name.

Obviously machine translated but you can't get the number wrong, she's a year older than Cyrus.

>>57975054
Okay characters by birthyear with a margin of error of 1 year
>BEFORE 1009 BC: AZ
>1770-1771: Calaba
>1854-1855: Rei/Akari?
>1908-1909: Spenser
>1924-1925: Briney
>1928-1929: Charon
>1929-1930: Wattson
>1931-1932: Opal
>1938-1939: Salty, Hala
>1939-1940: Stern, Rowan
>1941-1942: Drayden
>1943-1944: Drake, Bertha
>1944-1945: Joseph Stone
>1947-1948: Ramos
>1948-1949: Byron
>BEFORE 1949-1950: Pryce
>1949-1950: Samuel Oak
>1950-1951: Brandon
>1953-1954: Alder
>1955-1956: Cedric Juniper, Clay, Xerosic
>1956-1957: Takao Cozmo, Looker
>1957-1958: Argenta
>1960-1961: Norman, Samson Oak
>1961-1962: Birch
>1962-1963: Wallace, Maxie, Archie, Shelly, Wake, Faba
>1964-1965: Norman's wife, Glacia
>1965-1966: Nanu
>1966-1967: Brycen
>1967-1968: Delia (anime), Fantina, Lucian? Wulfric
>BEFORE 1969-1970: Mustard, Ryme, Tyme
>1969-1970: Primo, Sidney, Tabitha, Matt, Maximo, Drasna?
>1971-1972: Flannery, Steven Stone, Aarune, Cynthia
>1972-1973: Cyrus, Wicke
>1973-1974: Lusamine
>1974-1975: Brawly, Courtney, Karen (manga), Flint? Saturn, Darach, Olympia? (uncertain) Wikstrom? Mohn

>>57976161
>1975-1976: Sabrina (manga), Volkner, Jupiter, Dahlia, Lenora
>1976-1977: Aqua/Magma grunts, Zinnia? Clair?
>1977-1978: Will (manga), Mars, Nate's mom, Sycamore
>1978-1979: Wanda, Zinnia?
>1979-1980: Malva
>1980-1981: Winona, Aaron, Aurea Juniper, Grace
>1981-1982: Brock (anime), Bill (manga), Gardenia, Olivia
>1982-1983: Roxanne, Phoebe, Marlon? Colress? Aliana? Bryony? Celosioa? Mable? Lysandre, Elio's mom
>1983-1984: Lisia, Greta, Candice, Marshal, Grimsley, Kukui, Burnett? Molayne
>1984-1985: Misty (manga), Brendan, May, Roark
>1985-1986: Red, Green, Blue, Thorton, Caitlin Dendrobium
>BEFORE 1986-1987: Anabel
>1986-1987: Wally, Tate, Liza
>1987-1988: Max, Ethan, Lyra, Silver? Lucas, Dawn, Barry, Siebold
>BEFORE 1989-1990: Melony
>1989-1990: Maylene, Loblolly? Burgh, Ryuki
>1990-1991: Natural Harmonia Gropius, Grant
>1992-1993: Skyla, Shauntal, Valerie, Diantha
>1993-1994: Morgan
>1994-1995: Sina, Viola, Dana, Kahili Ginger, Guzma?
>1995-1996: Elesa, Evelyn
>1996-1997: Hilbert, Hilda, Cheren, Bianca, Chili, Cylan, Cress, Tierno, Dexio, Emma, Nita, Plumeria
>1997-1998: Hugh (provisional?) KiaweM Dendra
>1998-1999: Roxie, Calem, Serena, Korrina, Mina
>2000-2001: Iris, Nate (manga), Rosa (manga), Hugh (manga), Benga (manga), Shauna, Clemont, Sophocles?
>2001-2002: Mallow
>2002-2003: Trevor, Gladion, Ilima
>2003-2004: Lana
>2004-2005: Elio, Hau, Lillie? Acerola
>2005-2006: Bonnie
>2007-2008: Hapu
>2013-2014: Poppy

>>57975976
>suddendly random misogyny to justify your denial of canon
huh weird but okay

>>57976161
>>57976167
So assuming anyone over 90 is dead (AZ aside obviously) by the time ZA happens we can guess Calaba, Rei, Akari, Spenser, Briney, Charon, Wattson and Opal are all gone huh

>Hala is 87 this year
>Rowan is 86
>Drayden is 84
Hau, Dawn and Drayton better be ready to replace them because they are already half dead

>>57976167
>20yo Bonnie in ZA
Make it happen, GF

>>57970443
>takes part in the PWT 15 years after beating the kanto league
>still dresses like a child
What flavour of autism does he have?

>>57976408
>What flavour of autism does he have?
bro people in the pokemon world dress up like their ace mon it's not weird in the pokeworld

>>57976408
Fanservice only cameos don't get new clothes

>>57976408
This >>57976849
Just see how all the shit that appears exclusively in PWT or Battle Tree always has the same design as in the previous game, but in SM/USUM the guys with new designs are the ones that you actually meet during your adventure (Red, Green, Anabel, Grimsley, Colress, Sina and Dexio).
"Le random character from a previous game appears for a battle facility" shit isn't canon, it's just fanservice

>>57976167
Lisia being as old as Kukui feels so weird

>>57977331
Or Lenora as old as Volkner, or Mohn being as old as Brawly

>>57976167
Huh, I was possibly born the same year as N? Neat. Guess it was a good year for long haired autistic faggots with daddy issues.

Test

>>57970366 (OP)
>multitimeline
Based

>>57972367
your post makes 0 sense

>>57970366 (OP)
Bump

I just think the timeline is neat to think about

>>57976167
>I'm from the same city as Kendra
>I always wanted to be a teacher (like Kendra)
>I'm a cook so I could teach and help Kendra cooking

>turns out I'm as old as Kendra too
We were made for each other.

>>57976167
>>2000-2001: Iris, Nate (manga), Rosa (manga), Hugh (manga), Benga (manga), Shauna, Clemont, Sophocles?
Damn I am still a kid apparently

>>57974461
Alpha Sapphire is also the only one with a Jirachi cameo. Playing Omega Ruby literally gives you less info about Hoenn's mythical pokemon

>>57979212
You are young for sure but if you are 25 I wouldn't call you a kid

>>57979309
guess so

>>57976167
>>57976161
You can only post fuck characters born in the same year as you. Who are you getting?

>>57979629
Everything is alright in the world

>>57979629
Korrina

>>57976167
>>>1992-1993: Skyla, Shauntal, Valerie, Diantha
>>1993-1994: Morgan
im old

>Blue is currently 40
>May is currently 41
>Lyra and Dawn are currently 38
>Hilda is currently 29
>Rosa is currently 25 if her manga age was right
>Serena is currently 27
>Selene is currently 21
>Gloria was probably like 14 given her height so she should currently be 20
>Juliana is obviously still a kid so she's out
Which one is a milf by now?

>>57979731
May, Leaf, Kris, Dawn, Lyra and even Hilda if she had a kid

>>57979731
>>57979851
RS mom gave birth at 20, BW mom at 23 and SM at 22. And Delia at 18 if her game version is as old as the anime one. I say all of them are mothers except Selene, Gloria and Juliana.

>>57979731
All of them. Including Juliana.
>how do you know?
I'm a very fertile guy.

>>57979629
It was Maylene or Loblolly, and I have a thing for retardedly obscure girls. Her game mechanic doesn't even function anymore.

>same age
heh

>>57979731
None of them, not just Juliana.
>how do you know?
I use condoms.

>>57980404
>same age in the games
>a 35yo woman and a teen 20 years younger in the anime
How was this approved? Sure, Japan, but this is Pokemon, anything remotely problematic shouldn't be seen in the anime

>>57979731
None of them, not just Juliana.
>how do you know?
I have a Subjugation by Anal Only policy.

>>57970366 (OP)
it's interesting that the only generations that are out of order from when they released are 2 and 3 (unless you count hisui but that one's status as a mainline title is up for debate)

>>57979629
>model since she was 15
>now twice that age
She must feel old and busted by now. I will take care of her.

>>57981959
You just know her asshole tastes like strawberries Shame she has been jerking off old men for 15 years

>>57981508
If by interesting you mean infuriating then yes it's quite interesting
Yes I'm autistic

>>57981497
I really wanna save this pic because it actually shows all FMC (even Eleaine and Akari) but yikes

>>57981508
>that one's status as a mainline title is up for debate
Maybe if you are like
A genuine fucking retard

>>57973168
Anon I agree with the guy who kept telling you to take your pills, they will help you not take stuff in such dumb directions.

Zeldafags understand that just because there's no game showing what happens to the mask of Majora in the adult timeline doesn't mean the mask doesn't exist so why does the autist think the division of mega and non-mega (or "mega not discovered" if you prefer) timelines would mean some events of pre-XY games couldn't happen in the same universe, with (ORAS) or without (BDSP) megas? Johto shit can happen in the same world as XY and you can put HGSS long before XY even if you would have to separate them if you want to accurately represent all timelines
in fact 100% accurate representation would make you separate games by edition too but everyone gets that even if they are separate timelines too it's a pointless effort so why is that this particular autist thinks placing DP or BW2 before XY means "hur hur there aren't no meg and non-mega timelines it's all the same"?

>>57976167
>>57976161
Now the same but give us directly how old they are in 2025

>>57984125
Not that anon, do your own math idiot.

>>57984125
>>57984171
I'd like to formally apologize, that was needlessly aggressive of me.

>>57970697
LGPE just doesn't fit into a timeline that accounts for RGB/LGPE and GSC/HGSS.
In it, Red, Blue and I guess Green exist and had their journeys before the LGPE characters, Blue is even said to have defeated the elite four, but then the events of the game are pretty much identical to the ones in the original Kanto games, suggesting that whatever Red and Blue did was different. They didn't have pokedexes and didn't defeat team rocket.
I imagine this is a case of the devs "not following the timeline too closely" as mentioned in earlier posts, they didn't want to change the story of LGPE from the originals, but did for whatever reason decide to make new protags and have the old ones return for nostalgiabait. The story implications were an afterthought.

Same with >>57970887
I doubt when they put megas in ORAS they specifically decided to "rewrite the timeline". They just added them in because it's the new game mechanic that they've gotta use, and sprinkled in some Kalos references so the connectivity with XY feels more "real" in-universe.
If they wanted to make the relationship between the events of the games actually matter for the timeline, they'd have done something like DPPt, where you hear news about the red gyarados sighting on tv, and meet Jasmine.

>>57970443
wait I thought (heart)gold and (soul)silver took place at the same time as diamond/pearl/platinum. you literally see a news report about the lake of rage incident as it's happening at the beginning...

>>57984125
>over 3034: AZ
>255: Calaba
>171: Rei/Akari
>117: Spenser
>101: Briney
>97: Charon
>96: Wattson
>94: Opal
>87: Salty, Hala
>86: Stern, Rowan
>84: Drayden
>82: Drake, Bertha
>83: Joseph Stone
>80: Ramos
>79: Byron
>over 76: Pryce
>76: Samuel Oak
>75: Brandon
>72: Alder
>70: Cedric Juniper, Clay, Xerosic
>68: Takao Cozmo, Looker
>67: Argenta
>64: Norman, Samson Oak
>63: Birch
>62: Wallace, Maxie, Archie, Shelly, Wake, Faba
>60: Norman's wife, Glacia
>59: Nanu
>58: Brycen
>57: Delia (anime), Fantina, Lucian? Wulfric
>over 56: Mustard, Ryme, Tyme
>56: Primo, Sidney, Tabitha, Matt, Maximo, Drasna?
>54: Flannery, Steven Stone, Aarune, Cynthia
>53: Cyrus, Wicke
>52: Lusamine
>51: Brawly, Courtney, Karen (manga), Flint? Saturn, Darach, Olympia? (uncertain) Wikstrom? Mohn
>50 : Sabrina (manga), Volkner, Jupiter, Dahlia, Lenora
>49: Aqua/Magma grunts, Zinnia? Clair?
>48: Will (manga), Mars, Nate's mom, Sycamore
>47: Wanda, Zinnia?
>46: Malva
>45: Winona, Aaron, Aurea Juniper, Grace
>44: Brock (anime), Bill (manga), Gardenia, Olivia
>43: Roxanne, Phoebe, Marlon? Colress? Aliana? Bryony? Celosioa? Mable? Lysandre, Elio's mom
>42: Lisia, Greta, Candice, Marshal, Grimsley, Kukui, Burnett? Molayne
>41: Misty (manga), Brendan, May, Roark
>40: Red, Green, Blue, Thorton, Caitlin Dendrobium
>over 39: Anabel
>39: Wally, Tate, Liza
>38: Max, Ethan, Lyra, Silver? Lucas, Dawn, Barry, Siebold
>36: Melony
>36: Maylene, Loblolly? Burgh, Ryuki
>35: Natural Harmonia Gropius, Grant
>33: Skyla, Shauntal, Valerie, Diantha
>32: Morgan
>31: Sina, Viola, Dana, Kahili Ginger, Guzma?
>30: Elesa, Evelyn
>29: Hilbert, Hilda, Cheren, Bianca, Chili, Cylan, Cress, Tierno, Dexio, Emma, Nita, Plumeria
>28: Hugh (provisional?) KiaweM Dendra
>27: Roxie, Calem, Serena, Korrina, Mina
>25: Iris, Nate (manga), Rosa (manga), Hugh (manga), Benga (manga), Shauna, Clemont, Sophocles?
>24: Mallow
>23: Trevor, Gladion, Ilima
>22: Lana
>21: Elio, Hau, Lillie? Acerola
>20: Bonnie
>18: Hapu
>12: Poppy

>>57984226
poppy is NOT 12

>>57984231
>9yo in 2022
>not 12 in 2025

>>57983724
Another point about megas beind "discovered" in XY: you shouldn't just take everything the games say at face value as unquestionable canon. The same happened in Johto with steel and dark types as well as the whole Johto dex being "discovered", as if that makes any sense in-universe, where Kanto already had magnemite which was pure electric in gen 1. It's just a way the games go about introducing new features. The same way that when characters tell you to press start to open the menu, it's not some all-knowing deity who is aware of being in a videogame, it's just the game communicating info to the player.

>>57984225
The text above them says "a bit later". It's also evidenced by Jasmine being in Sinnoh (Erika mentions her going there in HGSS's postgame), or the fact that the player sees those news at the start of the game, meaning at that point the Johto protag is at least at a midmoint in their journey.

>>57984225
If the Gyarados thing happens when Lucas is just starting his adventure then Johto clearly starts before Sinnoh even if they overlap a little, if anything the question is how little of a difference is there between gen 1 and gen 3. The pokedex that Birch gives us was delivered to him at the start of the game which basically tells us he got it from Oak but when? Did Oak use Birch's data to make both of gen 3 pokedexes, then gave Red and Green the Kanto dex and sent the Hoenn dex to Birch? Then I guess it's up to the delivery time

>>57984273
ah ok

>>57984289
>If the Gyarados thing happens when Lucas is just starting his adventure then Johto clearly starts before Sinnoh even if they overlap a little
Yes. We literally agree.

>>57984347
>we agree
Not exactly, I understand that if they overlap a little they don't overlap completely, you apparently didn't.

>>57984289
Same about the gap between BW2 and XY, an NPC mentions Team Plasma made some mess in Unova but by the way he talks it could mean
>yeah 2 years ago these terrorists almost take control of the that region lmao
Or
>those terrorist from 2 years ago? I heard they briefly returned like a couple months ago
So maybe black Team Plasta is already doing their shit in Unova again and the NPC doesn't know or maybe they just got defeated a second time

>>57984226
>Sina and Dexio are 30
I hope they are proper professors by now honestly

>>57970366 (OP)
>>57970374
>>57970380
>>57970395
>>57970417
This is all nonsensical.

Gamefreak has to be the worst worldbuilding developers in all of gaming. Cant think of anyone worse.

>>57984719
clearly since I'm saying we agree I'm saying that you said what I meant.