Thread 57972006 - /vp/ [Archived: 984 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:50:00 AM No.57972006
Johto
Johto
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What did you think of Johto?
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:51:45 AM No.57972011
>>57972006 (OP)
Not enough tiddies
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:52:40 AM No.57972013
>>57972006 (OP)
ash x bayqueef
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:53:49 AM No.57972016
>>57972013
this
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:54:20 AM No.57972018
>>57972006 (OP)
Man, his team was so dogshit in Johto. What could have salvaged this?
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:57:34 AM No.57972024
>>57972018
Totodile evolves into feraligatr. Typhlosion would have only gave it more wingless charizard allegations and nobody likes meganium.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:59:20 AM No.57972028
>>57972024
Not like it mattered anyways considering Charizard was his ace for the league anyways. At least Harrison was a good opponent unlike Richie or THUNDERBOLT MEOWTH.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:07:45 AM No.57972040
>>57972028
Harrison was an awful battle as well. The only decent part of it was Charizard vs Blaziken, while the entire rest of it is forgettable. I'll go as far as to say the only good league battles were against Tobias and Alain. I want to say Gary, but it made Ash look really bad in retrospect with Charizard having to carry that fight.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:21:22 AM No.57972048
>>57972006 (OP)
Filler hell and it might be the main reason I'm not as passionate about Pokemon as I was while the first season was airing.
I didn't have the games because financial problems + silent generation dad but I loved Pokemon so much I made a CYOA in a notebook back then. None of that after the hundredth stop to delay the next gym battle for another episode.
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:41:48 AM No.57972054
>>57972024
>and nobody likes meganium
Pokefags not having a say over which Pokemon can or cannot be in the games is a good thing.
If they did, the dex cut that Pokefags cry over would be weaponized against the Chikorita line and other deemed "undesirables" without any self awareness or irony.
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 2:59:42 PM No.57972332
>>57972006 (OP)
Harbinger of the formulaic slog the anime would become post-OS. The typical episode structure of a Johto episode is fundamentally the same as an episode from Hoenn or Kalos, just with the original characters. I watched it again in my early 20s and was surprised at just how much worse it was than I remembered it being. No wonder Pokemania died out when it did
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 3:02:25 PM No.57972336
>>57972018
actually evolving his pokemon.
>but the animators hated how detailed late stage evos were!
then have him box the pokemon after an episode or two and then have him catch something new to go through the process again. actually showcase all the new pokemon in Gen 2. and then, come the Johto League challenge, he selects an all-star team from all the best stuff he caught throughout the region.
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 3:04:56 PM No.57972340
>>57972006 (OP)
Currently watching as it gets released in the official channel, and I don't remember the pacing being this horrible. They really can't think of anything for them to do.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 3:09:58 PM No.57972346
>>57972340
comparing Johto Journeys to the first dozen or so episodes of Indigo is wild. Ash goes from getting a badge every 2 episodes to going 20+ without getting one.

if I were.. 22% more autistic I'd do a Kai-style recut to trim out all the filler.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 3:18:04 PM No.57972354
>>57972346
Johto League Champions is not any better. 20 episodes between Whitney and Morty and nothing fucking happens in them, expect for Brock getting cucked like 3 times and Ash winning a sun stone that he then uses in a random sunkern.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 3:22:14 PM No.57972361
>>57972354
I was kinda counting all the Johto episodes together, but yeah. Thinking back I think it was at some point during Johto that I stopped religiously getting up at 8am or whenever it was on to watch the show, and watching it again I can see why kid me lost interest.
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 3:47:18 PM No.57972412
>>57972340
To be fair, the games have extremely little to work with. Every time Ash finally made it to a city they always did a bunch of episodes there, and you can tell the writers were really happy to actually have some material to work with and make episodes about.
The Goldenrod Radio episode is probably the best in the entire Johto arc.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 3:56:33 PM No.57972423
>>57972018
Honestly most of Ash's teams are incredibly dogshit - not even like bad gameplay-wise but just the most unappealing early route dogshit you could think of.
His Hoenn team is just as bad except for Glalie.
Kalos and Journeys were his only good teams, though even then I'm not a big fan of how Journeys was all Kantomons except Lucario.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 4:02:19 PM No.57972435
>>57972423
his teams are like what 7 year olds first playing Pokemon would end up with. a stupidly overpowered starter, and then a bunch of untrained unevolved shitter HM slaves.
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:32:33 PM No.57973125
>>57972332
Hoenn and Sinnh had contests to spend the time, Unova had perfect pacing until after the league with shitty Declore island filler arc, and Kalos dragged until XYZ and was hard-carried by sakuga. Kanto knew it didn't have shit to go on from the games alone, so they sometimes went full original, and the show was much better for that. They lost that freedom when Pokemon went mainstream.

>>57972412
>The Goldenrod Radio episode
When they were on a radio show with TR, who kept fucking up the voice drama they were doing, and the MC had to improvise on the spot? That was a banger.
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:39:11 PM No.57973145
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Why is his Johto team so unevolved
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:42:38 PM No.57973154
>>57973145
Totodile never becoming Feraligatr pissed me off as a kid
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:44:12 PM No.57973161
I want a Pokémon region I can call home.
I'm looking for
>a region that's a real hell for Fairy-type Pokémon
>a region where having a Fairy-type Pokémon on your team is the worst idea ever
>a region with very few Fairy-type Pokémon
>a region with many Steel-type, Fire-type, and Poison-type Pokémon
>a region where the Pokémon on the cover are resistant and effective against Fairy-type Pokémon
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:49:22 PM No.57973173
>>57972040
Paul vs Ash was a great battle, retard.
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:49:53 PM No.57973174
>>57973161
Orre
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:50:36 PM No.57973176
>>57972013
don't call it bayqueef what the fuck
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:30:13 PM No.57973266
>>57972006 (OP)
Its weird how they keep calling pokemon "it" despite Gen 2 basically being pokemon's sex update.