>>57977214 (OP)
I now realize that Team Rocket was chasing after a Pikachu so powerful that it lost to starter Snivy

>>57977223
If we ignore the Tobias fight, what was actually even impressive about Pikachu between gens 1-5?

>>57977247
Just that Ash got all the gym badges with it by his side I guess, when most trainers can't even finish their home region

>>57977247
Nothing, he started a a jobber that got his shit wrecked a lot of times and JJ&M were just coping after losing to a thunderbolt that was powered by a hundred or so Pikachu powering the Pokémon Center.

People tend forget that Ash and Pikachu started like fucking weaklings thanks to their hatred for some reason, it wasn't until Hoenn that they became real battlers

>>57977275
>wasn't until Hoenn that they became real battlers
I'd say the Battle Frontier specifically. His performance in the league was really bad in Hoenn. Whereas the Battle Frontier was essentially a prologue to Sinnoh Ash.

>>57977247
It one shotted a ground type with an electric move like five episodes in

>>57977214 (OP)
>team r is in pogo
>pogo is on earth
>earth is now canon
They are the best team obv

>>57977333
Didn't the fire alarm go off & cover Onyx in water though? Basically cheating

>>57977286
BF Ash was way more competent than Sinnoh Ash. You don't go from beating Regice to tying with Elekid, but most people really tend to ignore that fact.

>>57978328
He's talking about the Geodude

>>57977214 (OP)
gen 3 bros.. our LITERAL GODS are being manhandled WTF?!
They were supposed to be powerful....