Why would they let turner spitted on kanto’s legacy with these

>>57982999 (OP)
Most of these are just bad designs no matter how they're made

Your boogyman didn't work at Game Freak until 2007 son. That was Nip Freak's own work.
As to why, just look at the fucking things, small wonder they tried to make people give a fuck about them. No-one gave a shit about them in Gen 1.

>>57982999 (OP)
he didn't design any of these, obsessed retard. also magnezone is a vast improvement, electivire and tangrowth are still good, both lickitung and lickilicki look like shit, and the only good part of the magmar line is magby. rhyperior does suck major ass i'll give you that one. very notable that you omitted the coolest gen 1 cross gen evo though.

>>57982999 (OP)
Magnezone is a sidegrade, Electivire is better, nobody cared about Tangela and Lickitung, and Rhyperior/Magmortar are downgrades
Average all around

>>57982999 (OP)
Based ESL telling it como es
>>57983006
Truth

>>57983016
I don't like Porygon-Z for the same reason I don't like Arctovish, can't stand when their heads are upside down, so I still prefer Porygon2

>>57983016
OP likely isn’t include it because it evolves from Porygon 2, a gen 2 Pokémon. Ironically Z probably would make more sense as a branched evolution directly from Porygon but it is what it is.

>>57983042
Not really. Apart from the obvious fact it's a reference to how 3D effects progressed IRL alongside the game's development, file sharing apps were ubiquitous in the 00's and opening a dodgy file from them could nuke your computer (just as the Dubious Disc glitched your pokémon out).

>>57983070
>Game Freak never gave Porygon a true new evolution to parallel modern game development

Either Pikachu REALLY cucked this line or even Game Freak realized how badly gaming stagnated in the 2010s

>>57982999 (OP)
Lickilicky is rad and only bitches hate him

>>57983092
I think it's because Rotom kind of replaced Porygon as the defacto digital pokemon. All the modern places Porygon would fit, Rotom was already chosen to be put there.

>>57983042
Z is a distorted 2 it makes much more sense to be its evolution

>>57982999 (OP)
I like 3 out of those
Magnezone could do without the bolts on his shoulders(?)
Rhyperior needs the top of his head fixed it looks like the world's worst haircut. give it ears at the very least

>>57983124
i love both of these mons and i wish they'd do something like have an inuniverse rivalry with them. like say silph co can be putting out porygon products whereas devon corp puts out rotom products. just make the products less like actual smartphones if it'd be too real.

>>57983112
More power to you for liking him but let's not pretend that people don't have good reason for hating him.

Lickitung was clearly meant to be seen as an unsettling Japanese monster with its blank stare (at least in the first couple of seasons in the anime) and disproportionally long and grotesque nonlizard-like tongue despite being a lizard-like creature. Everything I described here is faithfully expanded upon by Lickilicky's beta design which was universally praised.

Then the actual Lickilicky comes, throws all that away, and makes him a cute and safe mascot.

>>57983257
There is nothing unsettling about this.

>>57983257
I don't like beta Lickilicky or final Lickilicky but I would prefer beta if I had to choose

>>57982999 (OP)
>magmortar learns thunder punch
>electivire learns fire punch
crossgen evos are ultimate soul

>>57983265
It is objectively more bizarre than final Lickilicky and having a long tongue hanging open out of an agape mouth is more unpleasant than final Lickilicky making that cutesy "sticking tongue out while keeping its mouth closed" that you typically see from characters that are designed to be cute.

>>57982999 (OP)
Tangrowth is alright I guess. Rest are unfortunate

>>57983298
Literally my exact thoughts.

>>57982999 (OP)
>Why would they let turner spitted on kanto’s legacy with these
Can you say that again? In english?

>>57983298
>>57983314
It's weird that the designs share similar trends among themselves. Rounded heads. Comically over-exaggerated features. More organic-looking designs into more geometric ones. They look like they belong together more than with any of their prevolutions.
I agree Tangrowth is the least offensive. But with the GS beta design sitting in their archives...

>>57983277
i dunno when they decided these two were the blowjob bros but i love it

>>57983010
people actually liked rhydon, and magneton started to see some use thanks to gen3 while magmar and electabuzz would ironically be more popular in vgc than their evos thanks to their speed

>>57983378
>people actually liked rhydon
lol

>>57983404
do you laugh when someone says the sky is blue too

>>57983257
I never saw a single second of the pokémon anime so I wouldn't know

>>57983257
turning it around and making him cute is exactly why it's good. it's like he matured.

>>57983489
>the sky is blue
ROFL

>>57983489
Do you always get your dogshit opinions confused with facts?

>>57982999 (OP)
>"Muh turner" even though none of those are unovabort pokemon
Faggot.

>>57982999 (OP)
I'm a big fan of all of these minus lickylicky if for no other reason than the tongue is less prominent. Magmortar is my favorite fire type for having a really nice cool/goofy balance. I agree that Rhydon felt complete but I'm a huge fan of Rhyperior's piledriver arms and had some cool tools at the time like Solid Rock and Megahorn. I get that Tangrowth just being 'more tangela' might be considered lazy but as someone with a backyard it hits close to home. Magnezone and Electevire are just good and you're out of your mind for saying they 'spit in the face' of incredible pokemon such as 3 magnets and spaghetti guy with shoes

>>57983010
people still don’t care about them tho

>>57982999 (OP)
I only dislike lickylicky.

>>57982999 (OP)
They don't ruin the "Kanto legacy" for me. They are neat additions that aren't better and aren't worse than their Kanto counterpart.

The fact that fans effortlessly improve on these designs all the time

Crossgens shouldn't be made unless it's only one, maybe two gens later. Further than that and the differences in art and design philosophy becomes too apparent and it looks bad even if the individual designs look fine.
Like, magneton is an interesting concept, and I like magnezone. It's so blaringly obvious they were not made as a set however.
On the other hand, hydrapple not only fits in to the applin line seamlessly but it's also by far the best of them.

>>57983792
counterpoint: politoed

>>57983722
More people do because they're no longer a shitty single or two stager (with a baby form in a few cases).
Your problem is you think the entire world holds Kanto to the same regard your afterbirth arse does. Not happening and never did, hnece why it's only spergy fuckers who probably don't wash themselves throwing tantrums about Game Freak making their children's games how they wish, instead of slavishly copying Anon's childhood.

>>57982999 (OP)
>JAMES TURNER JAMES TURNER JAMES TURNER
How is this man living rent free in /vp/s head? He had literally nothing to do with any of these mons lmfao, why are you so obsessed with him?

>>57983749
I'll believe you if you'd show me a fixed Rhyperior instead of Boober2 (even if that's a kino redesign NGL).

>>57984012
lol no they don’t. They’re both not popular at all. Rhyperiorfags just get uppity when you remind them their fat constriction worker mon is also ugly.

>>57984044
>>57984044
Design-wise the Rhyhorn line would be better off with a baby pre-evo than a evolution for Rhydon. And I personally think Rhyperior is bad enough to abandon entirely. But since this is a Rhyperior redesign and not a new Rhydon evo:
Picrel is definitely lacking... something. But it's one of the better ones

>>57984480
I also found this one. It's supposed to be "Mega Rhyperior" but it works better as a modest redesign

>>57984487
I think it highlights issues of Rhyperior as is. The color scheme is tacky and gives you whiplash and the head didn’t need to look like it’s bald.

>>57983016
i would take a long time slowly cutting out your balls if given the chance

>>57983534
it is a fact that people liked Rhydon

>>57984518
I have yet to find any Gen 1 polls that imply this. Not that its ugly evo is better, of course.

>>57984005
Politoed is an answer to Poliwrath being too similar. They over corrected.

Still prefer poliwrath.

>>57982999 (OP)
Fuck you, I like him.

>>57982999 (OP)
Electivire and Magnezone are fantastic. The only offensive one is Lickilicky and only because it would fit better as a Lickitung prevo.

>>57982999 (OP)
The only downgrade is Rhyperior. Magmar was already hideous so logically it follows that its evolution would be equally hideous. The other 4 are upgrades.

>>57982999 (OP)
Imagine disliking Electivire and Magmortar.
Tangrowth is also good, but I am a Tangelafag so it overshadows the evolution to me.

>>57982999 (OP)
I would be fine with Lickilicky if the tongue wasn’t that stiff.
It looks like someone painted a cardboard as a tongue and it’s holding it in his teeth. Looks awful, even move considering Lickitung’s tongue looks fine

>>57984005
>>57984536

>>57984536
If Poliwhirl had a tail, I think Poliwrath could have worked better without changes to itself

>>57984014
>>57984163

>>57983010
>>57984014
what's funny is that most of Turner's mons have gone between okay and kino, the only true misses being the ice cone family and maybe obstagoon

>>57982999 (OP)
>First: Turner was not designing Pokémon or even at Game Freak when DP were being developed.
>Second: Magnezone is fantastic, Tangrowth and Electivire are pretty good, and at least Rhydon can use Eviolite since Gen 5. Lickilicky sucks, and Magmortar is just okay.

>>57983348
since Platinum

>>57982999 (OP)
Tangrowth is good. I give Magmortar and Electivire a pass since them existing buffs magmar and buzz with eviolite.
Licki is just disapointing, but not that important. Same for Magnezone.
Rhyperior is fucking heinous though. Mechanics wise its fine by why does it have to look so fucking ugly.