Come here for talk about all things Pokémon Mystery Dungeon.

Previous thread: https://arch.b4k.dev/vp/thread/57943002/ >>57943002

PMD Catalog (read Branches.txt for MEGA navigation): https://mega.nz/folder/gi5k2DBL#wVscYMtiXMuAeWDvKYyfmw

Pokemon Mystery Dungeon ROMs and Emulators Catalog: https://mega.nz/folder/ciVjBRoD#5vICIpkn16o-i1co11yFFg

PMD Fangames Catalog: https://mega.nz/folder/Yyk3gQaI#NNSyFhuoa2Cg5HuL2oEyTg

Romhacks Overview/Reviews: https://rentry.org/pmdglph

PMD Fan Fiction Archive: https://rentry.org/pmdg-ffarchive

PMD Guides: https://pastebin.com/Dbq61R5u
Explorers of Sky Romhacking Guide: https://rentry.org/skytempleguide

Everything about the Clover Guild: https://cloverguild.com/
Drawing Board: https://magma.com/d/amJOLydMWy
Mobile Drawing Board: https://magma.com/d/xsCNHWsgqp
Drawing Request: https://rentry.org/DrawReqPublic

Questions:
>What Pokemon do you want to play a major role in a future PMD game?
>Which meal from a PMD fanfic do you want to try the most?
>If you became a Pokemon, would having a tail be a good or bad thing?
>If you were making a romhack, how would you change up the gameplay?

Recap of the previous thread:
>Crunch-anon began writing his intro story, "Crunchatize Me": https://rentry.org/skivfa25
>Z2H wrote a new chapter for "The Phantasmagoria": https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/47934/pokemon-mystery-dungeon-the-phantasmagoria/chapter/2403787/a-glimpse-behind-the-curtain
>Vaporeanon wrote a (non-Clover Guild) story about a Hisuian Typhlosion and Sneasel, "Psychopomp": https://rentry.org/pmd-psychopomp
>Vee updated the Rain/Cory comic: https://rentry.org/ADTD8
>Toge-anon, Tropius-anon, Phanpy-anon, and Vee made a romhack, "Togetic's Very Special Episode": https://mega.nz/file/pXNiCSDL#WkFQ-3TdOO542-x3Vz0aMeGByZ5YpAZVl5Q2340rkYw
>Tierlists were made, story and romhack reviews were posted, anon's Gates playthrough continued

>>58001232 (OP)
>>What Pokemon do you want to play a major role in a future PMD game?
Calyrex and the horses i guess. curious how they'd make it in
>>Which meal from a PMD fanfic do you want to try the most?
haven't seen too many with food so maybe beasts pizza
>>If you became a Pokemon, would having a tail be a good or bad thing?
good-ish? i'm not elaborating
>>If you were making a romhack, how would you change up the gameplay?
base-building, customization options

>>58001232 (OP)
>If you became a Pokemon, would having a tail be a good or bad thing?
VERY good. Multiple tails, even.

Tails are erogenous zones in some animals. Naturally through the wonderful mistake that is the internet, this applies to virtually every fanfiction ever too.

I bet Adrian is so crabby all the time because he's never wagged his tail. Probably feels good as fuck to wag your tail.

>>58001232 (OP)
>What Pokemon do you want to play a major role in a future PMD game?
Pecharunt and his trio of evil lackeys would be fun villains.
>Which meal from a PMD fanfic do you want to try the most?
Gummi wine. Candy alcohol that makes you smarter.
>If you became a Pokemon, would having a tail be a good or bad thing?
Irrelevant, a tail is just extra vertebrae. Unless it's a prehensile monkey tail that you can use to grab things, which could be useful. >>58001359 is incorrect. Tails are delicate and most animals don't like them touched at all.
>If you were making a romhack, how would you change up the gameplay?
More puzzles, I guess? Sort of like the regi puzzles in RSE, where you have to follow clues and use certain moves in certain places.

>>58001472
realest thing ive read all day
>>58001232 (OP)
>What Pokemon do you want to play a major role in a future PMD game?
Reshiram
>Which meal from a PMD fanfic do you want to try the most?
whatever the fuck totodiles always drinking
>If you became a Pokemon, would having a tail be a good or bad thing?
YES AFFIRM YES!!!!! YESS!!!
>If you were making a romhack, how would you change up the gameplay?
let me add accessories to my creature...

>>58001232 (OP)
>If you became a Pokemon, would having a tail be a good or bad thing?
Having a tail would be pretty cute! However, I think it would get me into trouble.I might be the kind of mon that would wag their tail too hard when excited, and accidentally break it like some dogs do.

>>58001598
Post disregarded, my OC's tail is sensitive to touch.

This time for sure!

>>58003263
I'm willing it to happen

>>58001232 (OP)
>What Pokemon do you want to play a major role in a future PMD game?
Koraidon. I think he'd fit in in a more primitive world.
>If you became a Pokemon, would having a tail be a good or bad thing?
Oh hell yeah, it's tail time.
>If you were making a romhack, how would you change up the gameplay?
Badly. My first instinct is to make fewer but more involved dungeons, like dungeons with sidepaths and sidequests and stuff.

>>58003263
The definition of insanity

>>58001232 (OP)
I played another hack from the Skytemple hackjam, "Zero Dungeon: Isle of Mystery".

It barely used the jam's required gimmick and theme, and the plot was very barebones. Admittedly, the story wasn't the focus of the hack--the gameplay is the main attraction, since it switches up the PMD formula.

You're a cartographer who gets trapped in a level-reset dungeon, and you have to survive and try to escape. You have a base camp at the start, and you keep making trips into the dungeon to gather apples and supplies before Escape Orbing out (gathering apples was very easy, though, so food was never a concern). You also need to find TMs to learn any moves, which have unlimited PP, but some can only be used once per floor.

Back at the base, you use your supplies to build things. Once you've built several required things, the "story mode" ends in a very abrupt and unsatisfying way. There's also an arcade mode, which I assume just challenges you to go as far as possible. I also heard there's a second ending, but I'm not sure if I'll go back and try to get it.

The gameplay changes were interesting, and hearing Etrian Odyssey music was neat, but I wasn't particularly impressed by the hack. I feel like they could've done more with the idea, and I wish they expanded on the story by developing the protagonist's character more. Having to repeatedly run through the same dungeon and regain your reset levels got kinda tedious, but the dungeon changes the scenery, music, and enemies as you progress, and the challenge ramps up over time, so it's not as repetitive as it could've been.

I prefer story over gameplay in PMD, so that's probably why the hack didn't really grab me. Still, I mostly enjoyed playing it, all things considered. I definitely think this hack is worth a shot if you want a somewhat different take on PMD, and you're not looking for an interesting story.

>>58003263
That pokemon presentation will be a huge letdown. I'll have greater odds of having sex with Nessa.

>>58003758
You still ain't rizzin' her up, even if she's tied up

>>58003859
7 is peak position.
You can't prove me wrong.

>>58003889
>next to toge so free joy dust
>team cozy behind you
it's such an easy choice

>>58003889
>>58003889
Look across the aisle brother

>>58003889
>>58003913
Chespin has an extremely short temper and gets violent if you even slightly irritate him, and Toge can get triggered into an endless autistic rant if you say the wrong thing, so it's definitely not a flawless choice for a seat

>>58003924
>Chespin has an extremely short temper and gets violent if you even slightly irritate him
This only happens if you hurt or insult Wooper

>Toge can get triggered into an endless autistic rant if you say the wrong thing
Fuck it i'm down to listen to some rambling

>>58003859
slot 7 and just ask dewott to swap spots, easy answer see you later humpty dumpty

>>58003932
I could've sworn Chespin's gone apeshit over other stuff too

>>58003859
>>58003935
Alternatively, slot 4 and ask to swap seats with Rain. Sorry not sorry, banana breath.

>>58003859
The obvious answer is 2. Gill would be a wonderful neighbor, and I want to hug him.

>>58001232 (OP)
>>What Pokemon do you want to play a major role in a future PMD game?
I've always thought that gen 7, with the UBs and Tapus, has GREAT PMD potential.
>>Which meal from a PMD fanfic do you want to try the most?
Beastza
>>If you became a Pokemon, would having a tail be a good or bad thing?
Depends on the species. Some pokemons' tails are more important to them than others'. But it'd be cute, so I'd say good thing. You're already changing so much, why not go all the way?
>>If you were making a romhack, how would you change up the gameplay?
More variation in dungeon gameplay. Puzzles, alternative objectives, etc.

Hi! Stumbled upon this thread, felt like being part of the clover guild project. I was told to write a personality blurb for my character in here! So here goes:

https://rentry.org/qet5rmw7

>>58004073
Based newfriend
>admitting to a crime and leaving a paper trail
He's never gonna make it..

>>58004073
Glad to have you around anon, hope you have fun with us ^^

>What Pokemon do you want to play a major role in a future PMD game?
I'd like to see more fossilmon action, could make for a cool story

>Which meal from a PMD fanfic do you want to try the most?
Tonight we let the Chateaux de Grime speak..

>If you became a Pokemon, would having a tail be a good or bad thing?
Great, obviously imagine wagging it around to express joy sounds so fun :D

>If you were making a romhack, how would you change up the gameplay?
I'd try implementing the digger gameplay. Use Dig against the wall to make a walkable tile. Dungeon is not "accesible" so the way out is not laid out in corridors, make your way out bro. Not sure how fun it could be, but sometimes it feels like the dungeons are like laid out there for you just take a walk in, sans the ferals

>>58004587
slightly related i wonder how a dungeon with a diggable gimmick would be like?
there are abilities like super mobile in rescue team and tunnel wands in super, and there's buried relic for items in the walls but i more mean layout and traversal, although that might end up becoming an entirely different game. maybe

>>58004073
>another damn seeder
Grass types STRONG! Leaf supremacy.

>>58004073
Welcome to the guild!

I'm here once again with more reviews.

Previous reviews:
https://arch.b4k.dev/vp/thread/57777109/#q57813087
https://arch.b4k.dev/vp/thread/57875437/#q57921834

I'm going to give the name, the artist, where to find it, and the current status; main character species, if any of them is a human, which game it follows, if any, if it contains spoilers; genre/theme; artstyle; and my take on it.

Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Chasing Daybreak (by Questmaster, comicfury) - ongoing, hiatus

Seemingly Explorers-based and seemingly Riolu human + Pikachu partner. Not far enough yet for me to say that authoritatively. Spoilers for Explorers (yes, this early).

Not far enough to determine with certainty, 75 pages of mostly character stuff suggests heavy focus on characters and the story blurb suggests upcoming adventure.

Simple cute artstyle. Alt text on every page.

75 pages so far, and on hiatus until August. Nervous wreck Pikachu who's already in the guild and a Riolu who seems to be a human (mid-Explorers spoiler) from the dark future who hasn't lost his memory. The dialogue hints at deeper lore. It looks interesting so far, but there's not much to really review yet. This kind of thing is hard to predict because it's entirely possible to lay down the basics in 75 pages; here the main characters haven't even established rapport yet. Not sure if I'd say it's worth reading as is yet, but I'm intrigued by it. The page for the hiatus announcement is also pretty gorgeous. Also a side note, I like Pikachu's Raichu tail.

PMD Ancient Revival (by KazzMcSass, comicfury) - ongoing

No humans; MCs are a Slakoth and a shiny Umbreon. A modernized PMD-ish setting, no references to games.

There's some adventuring but mostly it's character interaction.

Almost full-on anthro; quadrupeds are still quadrupeds and fishes are still fishes. Simple but neat artstyle.

So. The premise of this one is that the MC is a doctor reseraching cure or at least treatment for "the feral sickness", a disease that manifests as sort of progressively worsening manic episodes until eventually driving them insane, and that he also has. I'm no expert on mental illnesses but to me it reads like a (possibly autobiographic) analogy for ADHD/depression/bipolar disorder or something along these lines. If that's not enough for you to be either instantly turned off or sold on the story: it's not like Omori where it occupies the entire plot, it's an important backdrop but plenty of other things happen. For the most part it's just The Quest. The characters are pretty well-written, the foundation of the story is pretty solid. The plot is spinning up, I'd say the pacing is pretty good. The only thing I'd really crititize it for is the MC having an always-encouraging super-rich mentor figure, which I think takes narrative pressure off unnecessarily, but he doesn't pop up very often.

PMD: TERMINUS (by sutihukka, comicfury) - slowly ongoing

Main characters are Eevee, Riolu, and Zorua, though the degree to which each of them is going to be a protagonist is a bit unclear at the moment. No references to games.

Adventure and humor, some character interaction.

Very pretty art, especially later on when it becomes borderless. Close to official art.

First of all - glacial pace, ~100 pages over 3 years. Posted randomly and with long breaks without any warning or explanation. Which is a real shame because it looks pretty interesting so far. The very early (like 5 pages) spoiler is that Eevee is Giratina, which is the main focus of the story. I'd say the parts that are already made are worth reading by themselves; the artstyle is pretty to look at and the characters are pretty funny. I think we're unlikely to see it progress to a resolution given the current rate, though.

Milos from Home (by ReagentNein, comicfury) - ongoing, short break

Eevee human, Torchic partner, soon joined by a Magnemite. Based on Rescue Team, but very loosely from the start, and goes pretty much completely off track after the Skarmory mission.

Worldbuilding-heavy, character-driven adventure.

Close to sketch-level but well-drawn, mostly monochrome artstyle. Many pokemon are drawn noticeably differently from official artstyle. The first chapter has a simple cute style, followed by a sudden shift to unsettling realism in chapter 2 (picrelated), followed by more gradual shift a bit closer to earlier cute style. Most pages after a certaint point have alt text, but it's usually not about the comic and instead just author's random thoughts on whatever they're doing at the moment.

Great characters and a lot of worldbuilding is what mostly defines this comic. It goes for a much less whimsical and a lot more grounded approach to a PMD world. The tone, while generally pretty light-hearted, goes into dark themes at times. The disasters that are only vaguely mentioned in Rescue Team are a pretty big part of the comic, you'll see pokemon being affected by them, refugee camps, and so on. Also, the main character is much less of a "stick carried by the water" style that we often get with PMD protagonists, and, in fact, tends to be the one pushing the partner around to do stuff despite his amnesia. The plot gets pretty intense later. Currently it's on a hiatus which should last a few more months, but we should see character Q&A soon.

Wanderlust (collab, find it yourself) - cancelled, continued as fan fiction, kinda revived

Large cast with no specific main character because it's a collab.

Porn.

I have no particular thoughts about its artstyle. Plus, it varies from artist to artist.

I'm going to try to be serious. First of all, there's the main comic, which goes nowhere because it ends at chapter 6 because the guy who did most of it left the project. I am shocked, shocked that this kind of a project exploded into drama. It has been continued as fanfic that I haven't read and do not care about. Then it has a bunch of side stories, many of which also go nowhere and end abruptly. And then there's just random art and Q&A. First, for the central plotline. My overall impression of it is that it tries to be ABSURDLY horny to justify porn and also have a serious plot at the same time, and those two things are at odds with each other. Like, the first plot point is that some of the guild members are so horny they literally can't stop having sex in the guild lobby, and that causes actual problems for the guild, am I supposed to take it seriously? Apparently, the answer is yes. Second, the characters. I think the characters are actually mostly fine, but trying to follow any of them would require you to trudge through loads of poorly organized comics, images, and writing, some of which is non-canon, with unclear timelines and made by different people. That requires more effort than I'm willing to give it. And third, the sauce. I have no strong feelings about it, but even if I did, I don't think my opinion would be useful to anyone. Either you like it or you don't. If one of those three things appeals to you, you might enjoy it.

Alva’s Dietary Misadventures (by Diabeticus, comicfury) - finished

Not really PMD, since it's set in regular pokemon world, but the main characters are pokemon. We've got Ampharos, Granbull, and Sobble.

Adventure. Philosophy. Dread. Poetry. Short description won't do it justice.

It starts out very rough - "my first MS paint comic" level - but improves over time. Later pages are quite pretty, dare I say. Also, the text is hand-written and gets incredibly hard to read in some places, especially Alva's yellow cursive on white background. (Her dialogue is sometimes posted in the description because of that.)

This is an experience that's hard to describe. First of all, the early pages aren't really representative of the main happenings later. Early chapters might set you up for a comedy adventure, but the bulk of it is actually a psychological thriller. As the comic unfolds, the focus shifts more and more from what happens to what kind of effect it has on the characters, mixed with philosophical musings on the state of things, group and individual psychology, behavior, and some pokemon-specific things like evolution. It's fairly heavy reading, and if you're interested, I'd highly recommend taking your time reading through it and always checking the description. One interesting quirk is that almost all chapters start with a synopsis that details what's about to happen in the actual chapter. They don't contain any information that you won't get by reading the comic, so you can skip them if you'd prefer to be unspoiled.

All We Like Sheep (by Diabeticus, comicfury) - finished

Not PMD at all, only gets here because it's related to Alva's, and the focus is still on pokemon. We have a human, Ampharos, Spinda, and later Litwick.

Character-driven adventure that happens over a few days.

Better than Alva's, still a bit crude, but the text is much clearer. In the middle parts some pages are rotated, and towards the end the frames are compiled into an animation.

There's a major theme of difficulties in communication, both literally in the sense that the pokemon can't speak human and have to do pantomime, and figuratively. Aside from that, it's an adventure. Characters go on it. We learn things about them. It's focused on characters, but it's not a deep examination in the same way that Alva's is. It ties to Alva's, though you can just read it as a separate story. Like in Alva's, we have synopses at the start of most chapters, and again, they don't contain any extra information, so you can skip them if you prefer to be unspoiled. That said, I don't think they reveal any really important plot points, and they help understand why the characters are doing what they're doing.

Pokemon: Market of Shoes (by Diabeticus, comicfury) - seemingly on a hiatus

Still not PMD, but I can't not review the sequel if I'm going to review the other two? Unclear main characters; from Alva's we've added a human and a second Sobble.

It's a comedy so far but so was Alva's 50 pages in; though the tone is notably less serious.

Much improved compared to the previous two. Regular black-and-white comic.

Direct sequel to Alva's, and both the description and the intro page contain a spoiler for it. Wouldn't recommend reading it separately. The pages that exist currently are pretty funny, but with 52 pages and the last update in March 2025, I don't have much to say about it.

Drillbur With Two L's (by Diabeticus, comicfury) - ongoing

Uhhhhh

Absurdist comedy.

Toonish, well-drawn artstyle that's not gunning for realism. It fits the comic.

Drilbur, sorry, Drillbur goes around interviewing pokemon. I already said it's absurdist comedy, so there's that. If you like funny nonsense, you'll like this comic. If you don't, you'll just get confused. That's about all there is to it, though I want to call out pages 63 and 64, especially 64, as the funniest PMD shit I've seen this year, so maybe at least check those out? I'd make page 64 the picrelated if it wasn't so unrepresentative of the comic.

Panic!! Mysterious Dungeons! (by Virmir, comicfury/his own site) - ongoing

Transformed Eevee and native Axew. No direct references to games.

Parody/comedy adventure.

Pretty well-drawn, close to official artstyle, a bit toonish.

I was unsure how to approach this one; usually I just evaluate the comic and try to isolate it from whatever surrounds it as much as possible, but here? Heck, there's a decent chance that seeing the artist's name or the artstyle will make you go "wait a moment..." So I'm going to start with the review of the comic itself first, and then put extraneous information under a spoiler.
So, the comic is a full-on parody. We've got moves, stats, levels, The Stairs Joke, the quiz, all being a part of the universe and both the narrative and the characters being self-aware. There's also an actual plot and characters, it's not gag-a-day. The characters are pretty good; the comic manages to do the main character with overinflated ego without overdoing it to a point where it becomes annoying. I'd say they could even carry a serious plot. The jokes are alright, especially when you consider that Rescue Team came out 20 years ago and low-hanging fruit (The Stairs Joke) have all been done many times. As an aside, I am shocked that "pmd" was still available as a domain name on comicfury in 2024.
Virmir is a TF/vore/inflation fetish artist who has drawn PMD fetish pictures and comics before and the main characters are his and (best as I can tell) his friend's fursonas (turned pokemon). Now, to be fair: this comic does not appear to be a fetish comic based on what I'm seeing right now, one joke on page 16 aside, and the MCs are not Mary Sues. But that context is pretty hard to escape from. And I will not be held responsible if the next antagonist starts turning pokemon into balloons or whatever.

PMD: Light and Ruin (by Bokurei, comicfury) - ongoing

Shinx human, partner Eevee, post-Explorers. Spoilers for Explorers.

Too short to evaluate yet.

Black-and-white manga-styled, official style pokemon.

I thought it was going to be longer for some reason, but it's pretty recent and only got to chapter two, it's still in the intro phase. Intriguing premise: it's set post-Explorers where the human disappeared at the end, and then came back five years later. The art is unremarkable but clean and pretty. Unfortunately, the writing is bad. The dialogue flow is incredibly unnatural, all the time. It's the kind of dialogue where the characters just state the information that you, the reader, needs to receive, without considering that it's spoken in a way that no human or pokemon being would speak. The author also made a puzzling decision to have a character Q&A at the end of chapter 1. Q&A should happen, at least in my opinion, after the characters are established, not be used to establish them. I'm going to keep an eye on it; if the premise gets delivered on, it'll make up for the stilted dialogue.

>>58005487
I fucking hate that umbreon

>>58004073
>another filthy fucking seeder
this guild is doomed

>>58005655
>>another filthy fucking seeder
Sneed and feed, chiller

>>58005655
Last I checked it wasn't called the Ice Continent, chiller.

>>5800407
>>58004073
Welcome frien!!!!

>Absolutely ruthless prankster, can clown on anyone, will clown on anyone

omg team him up with Elm!!

>>58005655
Plants are edible, even unorthodox ones like cotton. Think of it as stocking more emergency food.

Have (you) ever wanted to read about lesbian fish? Then you're in luck!

The fifth and final act of Whereabouts Unknown has finished. All that remains is the epilogue and few extra chapters.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/60627241/chapters/154802569

>QRD?
PMD! Underwater societies! Wacky surface shenanigans! Lesbian fish! Nautical nonsense! Questionable worldbuilding! What more could you want?

>Erm, what about adventureslop??
Ya. It's adventureslop too. Thought you had me, didn't you?

>LRD?
Below the surface of the water resides a massive ocean-spanning superpower called the Commune, as weird tribryd of Rome, the USSR, and Atlantis (I warned you it was questionable). The most influential military leader in the Commune, a woman named Zamira, is accused of conspiring to overthrow the Empress and is exiled to the surface to the right the wrongs that I shall not mention here because it is a spoiler. Forced to travel on foot in a place she hates the most, Zamira learns a valuable lesson: just because someone is Jamaican, it doesn't mean they aren't useful.

So, what are (you) waiting for? Come read Whereabouts Unknown! It's technically finished! That's more than can be said of most things!

>>58005760
>lesbian
Ew.

>>58005760
If I don't get more of Zamira and Brienne I will find (you). The reincarnations don't count bucko.

>>58005760
You had me at lesbian fish.

>>58005760
I only want playersexual/readersexual fish

>>58005790
Yes, I know, it's a far stray from the yuri everyone is used to, I'm sorry.

>>58005816
There will be more.I have no idea what you're talking about.

>>58005735
Bro I'm not munching on cotton even in the end times. I will gladly harvest all the bananas that tropius is able to produce, though

Long live the seedlers.

Posting my contribution to the previous drawboard. Booker got a bigger boat since the last time the guild visited the hot spring. Sneasel's confused about where he got it.
It was fun to revisit the hot spring background two years later. It's interesting to see how our guild and the artists have developed over time.

>>58001232 (OP)
>What Pokemon do you want to play a major role in a future PMD game?
Ribombee, but I'm obviously biased. I'd also like to see Ultra Beasts in the main plot somehow.
>Which meal from a PMD fanfic do you want to try the most?
I've written about Booker eating bee bread (aka ambrosia) before, but I've never eaten it myself, so I want to try it out of curiosity.
>If you became a Pokemon, would having a tail be a good or bad thing?
Well, it would serve a function, and it would have some downsides too. A tail can maintain your balance and display emotions, and certain Pokemon can use them for other purposes (like Buizel or Skorupi), but you always have to be mindful of it so it doesn't get damaged, grabbed, etc.
Personally, I wouldn't want to have a tail. It'd probably feel weird, and considering how often I stub my toes, I know I'd accidentally crush my tail in a door before long.
>If you were making a romhack, how would you change up the gameplay?
It'd be cool to do something like the exterior dungeon areas that Gates had, featuring puzzles or challenges that add some variety to the dungeon-crawling gameplay. I'd also like to add extra aspects to boss fights (for example, needing to use a specific item or move to make the boss vulnerable Pretty sure TWUT did that at one point).

>>58004865
I would be happy with this.
Although it looks like the artist gave this Ribombee a tail, which is a weird choice.

>>58005484
Thanks for reviewing comics again, anon.

>>58005760
I haven't read this, but congrats on finishing such a long story.

>>58005484
Thanks for the reviews!

>>58005553
Somehow he is the least off-putting thing in that panel for me

>>58006016
>Who els is gona do ur farming
Bitch you are here to BE farmed

Everyone's making a fuss about Whimsicott being Grass-type but nobody cares he's a fairy too

>>58006322
The guild could use some good fairy representation

>>58005489
I don't like how he draws proportions. And I'm pretty sure he has a thing for big butts.

>>58005489
>>58006340
>Yet another case of an artist's fetishes leaking into their comic
Many such cases!

>>58006248
>look up source

Well that's a new one.

>>58006248
>>58006523
I'm scared

Thanks for the reviews anon!

>>58006523
It's not that crazy, bro

>>58005553
>>58006248
Yep, visually it's pretty much all like that. I'm not too jazzed about it, but it fits the modernized setting, and I felt it's not too distracting.

>>58006340
>>58006382
That's honestly a pretty tame case. I think at this point I can confidently say that if you're looking up a PMD comic author's name, you should be mentally prepared to see weird stuff, and this one's is not the worst I've seen. Fatfur PMD comic author count has reached 5 with Virmir.

Also as always, I'd be curious to hear other people's opinions on those. Could also be any comic from one of the previous batches or any comic you want to suggest to me for a review.

>>58007305
Yeah, I've read most of these. I'm the fellow comic fag from one of the previous threads that responded to you last time. Let's see here...

>>58005485
Haven't read this one, I think I raised an eyebrow at the Ralsei looking Pikachu and Jonathan protagonists. Based on your review though I'll have to go and check it out.

>>58005487
Followed this one for a while. To me, pretty shitty to be honest - the characters are bland and it feels like nothing actually interesting ever happens, even with the shit that was going on where the mudkip was really one of the lake spirits, but I think I'm just not interested in those sorts of plots. Slakoth as a main character is based, but the art style and characters just aren't appealing, but perhaps this is a symptom of not binge reading it. Anyways, personally I'd urge people to pass on this one.

>>58005489
Total faggot comic. Not only can the author not hide their fat fetish, but almost every character is the typical PMD furfag character. Jonathan (who of course is like an emissary or priest of Arceus or something retarded like that), Eevee (who is Giratina, look at their spooky edgy eyes XDDD so cool!!!. Other side characters are Jolteon, Braixen, a few other of the "usual suspects" iirc, haven't read the early pages lately. They also find like 100 eevees in some dungeon that were being held against their will god fucking damn I can't stand eevee spam. Writing is shit, characters are shit, it's shit. Only good thing is the art, which I think actually gets worse as it goes. Your picrel is from an earlier page like you mentioned, and the lineless versions just look lazier and less appealing... I may be a schizo, but I think the lineless kinda adds to the faggotry, something about it makes me think the decision to go lineless is to make them more "appealing" - I can't quite explain it.

>>58005491
This one's actually quite good. Appealing art, genuinely good and interesting characters, and despite being a "retelling" they change it up from the original plot quite a bit and I'm invested to see where it ends up going. Shows that retellings can work quite well if they're actually well executed. Also, there's no faggotry going on here either with respect to xey gender or xey sexuality or "i am le cute pokemon uwu" bullshit, despite the eevee protagonist. I think out of all the comics you've touched on in this batch, this is the one most worth checking out, I recommend it with two thumbs up.

>>58005494
>wanderlust
Never checked this one out for obvious reasons. Can't really add anything here, but I will thank you for diving into that shit so that I don't have to, since I will admit I was curious how dogshit it actually was.

>>58005496
>>58005497
>>58005498
>>58005502
I've never sat down and properly read through any Diabeticus comics, since they all seemed rather... disjointed and absurdist, but I have glimpsed through some of its pages from time to time. They're definitely some of the more unique stuff in the PMD sphere, so perhaps I'll sit down and give them a proper read sometime.

>>58005503
Yeah, your review pretty much sums it up. What I will add is this guy has like, 5 fucking comics that he updates so idk how he's shitting out that much content (though the sameface nature of his characters probably helps), and they're of a similarly shitty caliber and style from what I've gleaned. I also didn't realize that the other background characters are his friends OCs, but that does add up (though it's extra concerning considering the setting is the Super preschool more or less). Off topic, but this man has added to a growing pile of hairtufted, trans phanpies that I, apparently, am collecting. Why are there so many of them what the fuck is wrong with these people

>>58005505
I've seen pages floating around, but I try to avoid comics that are obviously shit in the boring way (team positive connotation protags, shitty writing, explorers of sky BUT as the setup, certain kinds of art styles that tend to lean towards shit, etc). Glad to know my gut was right on this one.

>>58007305
Generally agree with your opinions on the comics overall, though I'd say my opinions of them tend to lean more negative to yours (especially when it comes to furfaggotry or shitty writing).

Admittedly, I don't remember exactly which comics you've reviewed or not already, (and the archive site doesnt seem to be working right now) so if I list something that you've already covered feel free to ignore it and call me a faggot. But I'd like to hear your thoughts on:

>Shinka the Last Eevee (and its original version from like 2013ish times, if you can remember anything about it. Author scrubbed it off the internet and all I can find are a few loose pages here and there. The reboot is complete dogshit btw)

>PMD Blue Rescue Team: (This one was a white whale for me. About 1/4 of it was translated to English from Korean by someone called Xofks12 on DA, but apparently due to internal drama they stopped doing that. It continued on on i think Battletoons or some korean website, but I couldn't read it since it was in Korean. This comic was extremely kino and pretty comedic (but also could be serious at times). Btw, if you have a way to read this english please hook a brother up).

>Team Rowanberry: My GOATS, and part of the reason I love Tropius so much

>Anamnesis: Very goated series of comics, though not every single one is a homerun

>Victory Fire: The all time classic, cursed to forever hiatus :'( This one breaks my heart the most to see it in purgatory

There are some others I've read you haven't covered I believe, but they're all pretty mid.

>>58007362
>Ralsei looking Pikachu
Goddamn it felt vaguely familiar but I couldn't put my finger on it, now I can't unsee it.

>Jonathan
We're pretty much in a postmodern PMD comic era where any Riolu has a 50-50 chance to be a completely earnest self-insert or a self-aware joke about how many Riolus there are in the PMD fandom, so I wouldn't judge a comic based on just that.

>Followed this one for a while. To me, pretty shitty to be honest - the characters are bland and it feels like nothing actually interesting ever happens
I think that's fair, I might be giving this one too much of a pass because I feel like it's setting up ground for future character growth. Like the random eevee family flashback, umbreon's evolution, and I think the mudkips are also pretty interesting. But it's true that it's not really felt in the comic as it currently exists.

>Total faggot comic.
Man, people really do not like Terminus. I wasn't taking it seriously, it doesn't take itself seriously, I thought it was funny, and that was my main reason for liking it. I saw the fat stuff and didn't think it was worth mentioning, so maybe my filter was off on this one.

>>58007380
>>58007390
>>58007410

>wanderlust
YW

>Diabeticus
You can read Drillbur whenever, it's pretty much just lolrandom, I liked it but I think a lot of people would think it's a boring mess.
Alva's is, I wouldn't call it disjoined, these synopses definitely help you follow what's going on if nothing else, but it's a pretty hard read if you want to really get into it, and if you don't, you'd be missing out on a decent chunk of it. The central storyline is actually really simple, it's all the internal stuff that gets complicated.
All We Like Sheep is much simpler by comparison. It's a fairly straightforward adventure, and it still has synopses that help in a few complicated parts. You could read it first, and you'd be spared wondering if the Ampharos in it is Alva or not for 90% of the comic because the suspense doesn't work in the other direction. I think the author mentioned he realized at some point it was a bad idea to drag it out for so long, so it's nbd.
Market of Shoes is mostly just lolrandom as well so far, not hard to follow, but you can ignore it, there's not much of it yet, and it's not worth reading if you haven't read Alva's.

>>58007541
Damn, forgot to attach.

>>58007410
>Generally agree with your opinions on the comics overall, though I'd say my opinions of them tend to lean more negative to yours (especially when it comes to furfaggotry or shitty writing).
I think I'd say I'm a pro-art and creativity person, even if it's cringe. It takes a lot to put your own creation out for the world to see, and I'll always respect that. Maybe that's not the best trait for reviewing, but I try to at least give an impression of what you're in for and who would enjoy it. There's always going to be someone who likes it, and even bad comics can have goods parts.

> (and the archive site doesnt seem to be working right now)
I think that's on your end, works fine for me.

>Shinka the Last Eevee
I usually avoid cancelled comics if I can. I might take a look at it, looks like at least some of it is saved in the internet archive.

>PMD Blue Rescue Team
I'll also take a look at it but I can't read Korean either.

>Team Rowanberry
Yo, a finished comic that slipped my radar, will probably read it for the next batch.

>Anamnesis
Did a review of it in the first batch, one of my favorites.

>Victory Fire
It's been mentioned numerous times, and I think at some point I'll read it. I've been putting it off because I don't really like reading cancelled stuff when I know it's never getting resolved, and also it's so well-known it doesn't really need a review, I'd rather highlight something less known. I heard there's a revival project and they say it's doing great, but they haven't produced anything as of yet.

Also, thank you for taking time to respond, comicbro. Knowing that my reviews would be helpful or at least interesting to someone is what drives me to make them.

you two should kiss on the lips

>>58007573
>Shinka the Last Eevee
Only the old version of it is canceled (or was it finished? I don't know. It's been so long, I remember reading it when I was younger and it progressive fairly far into the plot, but I can't remember if it actually finished or not). The remake of it was finished like a year ago or so, which is what I would ask you to review. Spoiler:it's shit and the old one was unironically better if a bit teenage cringe

>Victory Fire
even though it's unfinished, it's certainly worth the read. Great writing, great art, like 700 pages of content, really really really good all around, my heart sunk when i saw the initial hiatus announcement all those years ago...

>Rowanberry
Let's growwwwwwwwwwwwww, curious how you think of it, it's one of my personal favorites of all time

>>58007573
https://www.deviantart.com/xofks12

Here's where blue rescue team was translated, by the way. There's about 25 pages of it (they're really long pages though), I found 75 other pages or so in Korean somewhere else, dunno if it's still online, don't have the time to snoop around for the korean version right now. I'll have to snoop around for it some other time.

>>58007749
The old version was canceled in its final arc. The author put out a word doc with what was going to happen, but that's also gone from the internet.
t. someone who shares the same opinions about the comic and reboot.

Complaining about furry shit in the PMD/Pokémon fandom is a good way to shorten your lifespan, I imagine.

>>58008459
cookie and cream lookin mf

>>58008462
Good. I want to die of a stroke while screaming about faggots gooning it to cartoons like I'm a viking dying in battle in order to go to Valhalla.

>>58007573
>Knowing that my reviews would be helpful or at least interesting to someone is what drives me to make them.
I haven't responded to any of your reviews, but I did want to say they're very insightful to me. Seeing genuine analysis and criticisms on fan comics of all types, sizes, and levels of quality is great because it makes me feel more confident about mine.

What's your opinion of traps in PMD?

>>58008700
>trap avoider wasn't a default skill
>entire team congalines onto bomb trap
>lose 25% of your pp just because
it's shit

kino dropping in seven weeks you better be ready for it

>>58008700
don't pay them much mind unless they take my items then fuck 'em

In a somewhat realistic sense, how do other members of Pokemon society reconcile with those that are strictly carnivore? Also, are there some Pokemon that others would be cool with you ranching/hunting/fishing them to eat cause they are essentially animals?

Wrote a couple of (very) short stories featuring other anons' characters and art. All title art is made/modified art by the respective anons and featured art is credited to their creators! Thanks to Nido-anon, Sceptile-anon, and Reunianon for reviewing and letting me write their little fuggers! All their respective characters are so wonderful and I recommend checking their stuff out!

A Berry Nice Day with Team Moxie
>https://rentry.org/berryniceday

Midwinter Rest with Team Emerald Spark
>https://rentry.org/CG-MWRest

Reminiscence with Alphonse and Bethel
>https://rentry.org/CG-rem

Hope you enjoy these stories!

>>58008985
In games its never mentioned barring obvious jokes like Team Tasty in the explorer games. In fanfiction its usually either:
Never mentioned and its assumed everyone just eats apples/berries/sustains themselves entirely on friendship
Edgy "Meats back on the menu boys" every time a carnivore shows up and you get some thinly veil vore fetish shit
Real animals just exist and they are farmed/eaten just like they would be in real life

>>58009010
You forgot good ol' slowpoke tails

>>58008985
The perfect solution has always been >feral pokemon can be ethically farmed from mystery dungeons, since they infinitely regenerate pokemon, and many careers are built on this concept depending on the region. Some regions, such as the grass continent, have more abundant agriculture and a high density of grass types / herbivores, so eating meat is more taboo.
The only adaptation for this canon to work in clover is that the meat needs to be farmed in a specific, strategic way, because remains from feral only persist if removed before they're defeated, which has story precedent in Slingshot by Booker-Anon.

>>58009063
>Miltank wants to join your team! Will you accept them as a team member or as dinner?
Shit posting aside I agree.

>>58009063
I go with this but as far as Clover lore goes. It's still seen as taboo in many major civilization centers due to the uncomfortable connotations. Not to mention the possibility of some really vile places having black markets for Pokemon meat and the inability to prove if it's from a feral or not.

...Unless feral meat looks distinctly different from sentient flesh and you can tell at a glance between a meal and a murder?

Imagine if feral Pokemon flesh was essentially mystery meat/spam. Just relatively easy to manage and cook indistinct playdough flesh that lacks distinct muscle tissue patterning because the dungeon is only simulating what is believed to be anatomy for these illusory dungeon monsters.

Even funnier, imagine if killing feral pokemon just resulted in meat on bone style cuts.

>>58009243
>Pokémon Hannibal Lecter

>>58009243
One of ribombee-anon's Q&A questions from a year or two ago had Sneasel mention that there were wild pokemon that were distinct from dungeon ferals and natives, in that they weren't intelligent pokemon and were hunted by the native sneasels/weaviles of the tribe. I don't believe these wild pokemon have ever shown up in an actual story. It's very possible given Sneasel's backstory that they just don't exist outside of her homeland.

>>58009243
>inability to prove if it's from a feral or not
Not to get too morbid, but I don't have any way of knowing if this beef jerky I'm eating is actually beef either.

>>58008993
Very kino anon, the jung and sara story was especially adorable
Shorter stories are meta, idk why few anons do them

>>58009351
>there is a negligible but nonzero chance that some factory worker lost a finger in the meat processors and the batch makes it to market

>>58008985
There is no such thing as a strict carnivore in PMD world. All Pokemon CAN live off of a purely vegan diet and thrive.
Maybe some Pokemon like to eat meat and find means to do so. I don't know. Frankly, I don't want to know. It's a market we can do without.
>Pic related; a mon based on an "obligate carnivore" that has never tasted meat in her life and probably never will.

>>58009903
This. Introducing the carnivore question is non-constructive autism that makes PMD fall apart with no survivors. Unless you want to canonize non-sentient animals that aren't Pokemon, it's a cursed assumption that just ends up upsetting more people than not.

>>58010265
this is essentially why my solution is essentially an offshoot of >>58009063
spoilers for those who haven't read my stories basically there's a constructed difference between 'dungeon pokemon' and pokemon born 'outside the dungeons' so therefore the consistency of the meat of the pokemon in the dungeon is more suitable for consumption and would appear akin to the treasure boxes after defeat. there'd be employment for this and social taboos regarding eating the civilised because they're essentially like cannibalism. jokes can be made but never taken seriously unless the pokemon in question is essentially looking to be an outlaw or along that nature

besides that, i don't think too deeply about it. i prefer to opt by >>58009903 most of the time because i prefer to think of pmd as idyllic rather than some edgy gorefest. the latter isn't fun. stop trying to make the world with magical creatures the grim and gritty realistic that takes away from the experience. there's a reason fuckin team tasty is a side team and not shoved in your face in the actual games for shits sake

>>58009903
I had asked the question originally because of how Team Tasty exist. Their entire central conflict is about how one is very much capable and probable to eat the other. I didn't ask because of some attempt for vore/edgy cannibalism.

Do none of you remember how Team Tasty conflict resolves or what? it turns out that it was all entirely in Wurmple's head and eating him wasn't something Swellow was thinking about on any level. There's absolutely no implication that Swellows eat Wurmples, only that that specific Wurmple thinks that they do. And narrative-wise it's pretty clearly just a running joke.

I think it's a worthwhile question. So many Pokemon are clearly designed to be predators, and the game's logic of everyone always eating berries and apples is ridiculous. If we want (which Clover Guild has done), we can "headcanon in" crops like wheat or corn to help make the range of food more viable, but if we're willing to do that then the only reason we wouldn't "headcanon in" meat sources too, is because it's a little weird to think about. I don't think that's a good reason. If we handwave all the difficulties and peculiarities that might come about a Pokemon society, we decrease the value of the setting. PMD is unique in how it throws together so many vastly different creatures with different needs, and the world gets a lot of its depth in how it handles the variety. I like seeing how Pokemon design clothes for different body shapes, have housing to support Pokemon of different sizes, how certain Pokemon find employment using their unique abilities, or how others have to overcome a restrictive body shape. Pokemon diets are just another example of this. Without these touches, the setting is shallow, and the stories may as well star any cute furry creatures in any whimsical JRPG setting. To be fair, this is something the PMD games themselves aren't great with, but at least Chunsoft has the benefit of clearly trying to appeal to children. (1/2)

>>58010548
(2/2)
Anyways, I think the reason the topic is so divisive every time it's brought up here is because different people want different things out of Clover Guild. For those who only want comfy, lighthearted stories with minimal drama, but charming characters and fun dialogue to pick up the slack, there isn't much benefit to fleshing out the world in a believable way. Just get some cute guildies on an adventure and if the dialogue is strong, it's good to go. For those who do value the setting and want to write more serious, dramatic stories with stakes, the believability of the world is very very important.
It's totally fair to like one type of story over the other, but I would argue that a more grounded world doesn't harm a "comfy" story nearly as much as a shallow world harms a "serious" story.

>>58010548
>>58010550
Bro there's a huge fucking difference between discussing the nuance of things like agriculture, architecture and fashion, and the literal killing and consuming of sentient beings with human level intelligence. It's a little unnerving that you're trying to throw the baby out with the bathwater by implying that anyone is trying to handwave away any narrative depth because they (rightfully) believe a Pokemon society would be able to function without the consumption of meat on a large scale. Every species of Pokemon has roughly the same level of personhood and evidently seem to be able to co-exist, which means there is no "lesser" species that is considered ok to eat. It's one of the main quirks of the PMD universe, and arguable the most important. All Pokemon are basically equal.

The whole "feral dungeon mons are not real, physical beings" is basically the only way you can even justify the mowing down of enemies during dungeon fights without the whole thing being really morally dubious and weird.

It's reasonable to believe that maybe in ancient times, before the construction of proper societies, there was more of an "animal" like predator/prey structure, where hunting was more acceptable. But an equal society of this scale could not have grown to this point under those conditions. This isn't The Green Inferno and these aren't savage aboriginal tribes (mostly. Sorry Sneasel, your people are basically cavemen.)
The best I can give you is dairy and eggs, because they can be willingly given (by Miltank and Chansey, respectively) without any ill effects.
It kind of just sounds like you really, really want a reason to justify the idea that some Pokemon absolutely have to eat nothing but meat all the time and this fictional society based on children's media should just accept that as ok. It's weird that you want to believe "Pokemon grow grains and vegetables and bake cakes" is on the same level as "my Riolu OC only eats meat because he's a dog."

>>58010548
Of course they don’t just eat berries and apples all the time. There’s cookies and chocolate, too.

>>58010550
>no widespread cannibalism=shallow
Your edgy is showing, friend. Just write your hard vore fetish story if you want to that badly. It's a free country.

>>58010686
>so called fanfic reader when it comes to having reading comprehension

>>58010632
>The whole "feral dungeon mons are not real, physical beings" is basically the only way you can even justify the mowing down of enemies during dungeon fights without the whole thing being really morally dubious and weird.
I always felt like this type of explanation only serves to make whatever you're trying to explain away even more complicated and contradictory. Enemies spawning in dungeons is very obviously a gameplay abstraction, you don't need to try to explain it in your writing for the world to make sense, you can just ignore it, which would probably cause fewer problems anyway. It's like deciding that the game has hit points and you need to explain it, so you come up with a ridiculously complicated system where every pokemon has a soul, which is filled with magic energy, which you can restore by resting, and oran berries are actually soul energy containers, and pokemon moves are actually all magical because they drain energy from your soul etc etc etc.

Now if you want to do a deeper examination of a society where some pokemon are predatory and want to eat meat, and what kind of complications can arise from that, I can understand that (and also you're describing the plot of Zootopia/Beastars). Otherwise it's not even an actual explanation, you're just replacing one handwave with another.

Or you could take an easy route and go with "everyone is vegetarian", which doesn't just mean berries, even the actual games also have seeds an apples, and that's also an abstraction. Sure, grains and corn aren't MENTIONED in the games, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. Gates had berry and seed farms, so agriculture definitely exists. There's no reason to assume pokemon can't grow fruit/vegetables/grains.

Or just have regular animals if you really want to have meat. That's certainly less jarring than magical dungeon pokemon that you can butcher for meat.

The PMD world gets its meat by harvesting and processing special plants. All your OCs are eating soi.

>>58010810
That's it im brute force canonizing the meat tree into clover over the course of my next several stories.

>>58010632
>the literal killing and consuming of sentient beings with human level intelligence.
This doesn't apply to ferals, though, does it? I'm not sure which anon is which but >>58009063 uses the feral Pokemon from dungeons for meat. none of your critiques of the system apply for dungeon-generated Pokemon cuz they aren't sentient. They would literally be the "lesser species" you bring up.
I don't think anyone wants sentient, speaking pokemon to have to worry about being eaten, but since pmd stories are gonna have brainless feral pokemon that are basically cattle anyways I don't see the problem in using them for meat.

>>58010810
>>58010822
At that point, why do they even need meat in the first place if it's not even real meat. If your argument is some Pokemon "need" it, which species are they? Name names.

>>58010853
That's if you're assuming there are feral non-sentient pokemon, which in they games they definitely aren't because they can join your team. My personal interpretation is that dungeon pokemon are just regular pokemon that live there instead of living in a town.

*vores the entire thread*

The only meat you're getting is the vivid description of my Pokemon's weird bad dragon DICK.

Why are you people like this.

>>58010942
trying to move the goalposts to avoid admitting it's weird to go to such lengths to justify the meat question (the MQ, if you will)

>>58010942
Ten years no new game

>>58010810
>>58010822

>>58010774
I agree with the gameplay abstraction bit, but only in a game. For Clover Guild shit, it feels like the authors are just trying their best to adapt weird gameplay shit to their writing to make it work. You can't really have dungeons be story-relevant without zombie pokemon you can guilt-free kill in massive numbers. If the dungeon Pokemon were just as smart as everyone else, you'll have to continuously make up contrived reasons for them attack the rescue teams instead of cooperating, and even then, it'd be questionable to beat them up, not to mention grating.
Honestly clover guild doesn't have it easy. A regular ff writer can just decide how to handle ferals/dungeons/world stuff based on what works best for the story, but since CG has like 200 stories and fucking 20+ authors you gotta try to find a solution that works very broadly. It's interesting to see this stuff discussed, so kudos to everyone talking about it unless you typed "vore" in which case kys

>>58010942
comfyfags are extremely narcissistic

>>58011068
>>58010822

>>57965512
I read "Psychopomp" by Vaporeanon.
>https://rentry.org/pmd-psychopomp
I know what that word means, so I had a bad feeling going into this story... It was sad, as expected, but beautifully written. It's good that you provided details about Sneasel's past, including her fears about not being pious enough, helping readers empathize with her and understand her character better. I also like how you portrayed Typhlosion's personality as kind and supportive despite his nervousness and uncertainty about this whole process. The description of his fire was also cool. I enjoyed their talk at the end regarding what it means to live a good life. There were some parts that possibly could've been conveyed more clearly, and there were various typos as well, but this was a very nice story overall.

>>58008700
A nuisance, but some are definitely not as bad as others.
I'll never forgive Pitfall Traps for deleting my teammates in Aegis Cave that one time.

>>58008985
This question led to a pretty big discussion, huh?
In my writing, I assume meat can be ethically obtained from Pokemon with regenerating body parts, like Veluza, Slowpoke, or Clauncher. I've even written about Sneasel eating such food before, if I remember correctly.
And like another anon mentioned here >>58009346, I once wrote that some dungeon Pokemon don't vanish when they're destroyed, and can be harvested for meat and other resources. The dungeons in Sneasel's homeland work like this for a mysterious reason. I'd like to write stories taking place there someday, and if I do, I'll incorporate that idea. I'm not sure if anyone else has featured this concept in their stories yet.

>>58010632
>Sorry Sneasel, your people are basically cavemen
How rude

>>58011455
>go to dinner
>ask beast if it's goyslop or zogchow
>he squints at me and says "it's a good dinner"
>get my dinner
>it's zogchow
>mfw

>>58001232 (OP)
What would aldith's Seviper's stats be in mystery dungeon?

>ribombee pmd oc named clover
Amusing coincidence
Got a cute design

>>58011995
but what if I love zogchow...

>>58012413
Glad they didn't take the sparkledog approach like so many others but why a mail carrier? So many Pokemon OCs are mail carriers.

>>58012413
>A Ribombee mail carrier
What is this? A letter for ants!?

>>58012597
Adventurous, traveling job that's still good for big nerds that aren't cool enough to beat people up for money.

>>58012657
Tiny pokemon send mail too

>"Two members of Hangar 4's infamous CLOVER unit prepare for deployment over cult territory. Luck is on the Wind."
Did one of you influence this

>>58013241
clover is just a very common and easy name for plant related things
>leafeon
we, yes WE hate those here

>>58013247
>we
Why are you speaking French?

>>58012854
True, but I wonder why you’d send a tiny Pokemon to deliver it. Bigger Pokemon would be way more efficient since they can carry so much more mail.

>>58013241
There is literally a delibird deliveries patch on the bag

>>58007362
Where is that picture from anyway?

>>58013241
>Did one of you influence this
https://cloverguild.com/booru/post/2883
yes and its unfathomably based

>>58013241
>>58013963
holy fucking kino

>>58012597
Patrolling the grass continent almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter

>>58014666
I know what the artist is

>>58014712
A furry and/or coomer?
Most PMD artists are like that

>>58014724
I'm not even sure what this guy's talking about. I poked around their DA for a bit expecting, like, hyperinflation triple-vore or something but it's mostly just alt-colored cutemons.

>>58012597
It's not even the first time that someone drew a mailmon Ribombee, funnily enough

>>58014730
It's pretty logical if you think about it, isn't it?
>Can fly
>Very small and can't lift much
Delivering letters is a very fitting job. It's not surprising multiple people have the same idea.

>>58014755
>It's pretty logical if you think about it, isn't it?
Putting cute mons into a carrier job is the cruelest shit I can fucking imagine.
t. postie

>>58013534
Even so, I imagine tiny pokemon often send tiny, fragile things. It'd be safer to get a fellow tinybro to deliver it, lest it get damaged or lost among the normal-sized stuff.

>>58014807
I guess that's one situation in which you'd want a tiny delivery guy. A more delicate touch may be required for some deliveries. But it'd be a very niche case. Normally, I think larger Pokemon would be better in every way. They move faster and carry more stuff at a time.

>>58014829
>tinymon desperate to prove himself as the greatest mailmon on the continent

>>58014666
Does Kiyo have this power?

>>58014859
No but Enny and Shelby both do. Also Guildmaster Wigglytuff.
>You punch Enny in the face and suddenly turn gay

>>58014926
Luckily manhandling animals is my hobby.

>>58014852
There's a Ribombee mailmon story that's kinda like this idea, although he's not trying to be the best on the entire continent. Pretty sure it's been posted in /pmdg/ before, but I enjoyed it and figured I'd share it again.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/28396389

>>58014926
Enny's Attract only works on gay people. Even closeted queers

>>58015251
So it works on the entire clover guild?

>>58015260
No
There's a handful of straight people

>Pokemon’s official Twitter account just posted picrel
>Chikorita and Pikachu were my PMD2 team
This is a sign, we’re going to get a new PMD game announced

>>58014859
Unironically he definitely would, it's a free scam tactic. Plus doesn't his bio have tail whip as a move he knows?

>>58015547
Chikorita and Pikachu were my team in original Blue Rescue Team.
This is a double sign.
I want to believe

It won't happen...

I've been in the process of editing some of the stories I uploaded and I basically just finished them
https://archiveofourown.org/series/4025338

>what'd you edit?
this will not be a comprehensive list but essentially
- repetition. There's still multiple uses of some words but they're generally reference to specific contexts and not... literally baby's first fanfic writing without using tts two years ago to hear it nuh uh. most words that originally repeated are replaced with synonyms in specific places. Not all repetition could be ironed out, but a significant chunk was changed out
- better clarification on certain parts. This is miniscule but while some parts are meant to be vague , parts of the prose were edited to provide some proper context
- run-on sentences are either trimmed or heavily comma'd. A fuckton of semicolons were added to help flow some sentences and to convey tone better

the edits were applied specifically to PMD: The Amnesiacs and PMD: Chaos & Deception, and only the first thirteen chapters of the latter, because i intend to do the others once I am completed with that story in full (only its first part has reached conclusion in the back) or in the back while i work on that second part, whichever piques my mood the most.

i don't know if anyone will read it, and it's in the ff archive, but i just want to make an update on it since i will be going back to edit that other stuff but getting past this has been a major hurdle. This isn't to say it'll never need editing again, but I certainly hope it isn't this major in future

and if there is a lurker reading from here then i appreciate every last bit even if it's mute and silence from you. I'm much the same honestly

>>58015264
name three

i feel like playing through sky again but i kinda wanna do something different idk if i should mod in a different starter/partner or play a full randomizer or what does anyone have any ideas

>>58016117
Booker, Sneasel, Dav and Heidi are all confirmed lovers of the opposite sex. That's just off the top of my head examples that are confirmed by the text
There's probably more that will never be able to prove it because they can't score

>>58016117
Linoone & Debby
Nick & Amelia (not confirmed, but highly likely)
Booker & Sneasel
Dav
Heidi
Rasmus

hey, is rentry becoming unusable for anybody else? it keeps doing this shit where it opens a new tab whenever you click somewhere. it tried to download an opera gx installer for me just now.

>>58016597
Make sure your adblocker is turned on.

>>58016597
Yeah, they started running ads recently, and I guess some of the ads are invisible and cover the entire screen so it opens a website when you click anywhere. It's really scummy. I'm thinking about using another site to post my stories now.

>>58016597
It's apparently an issue with their upstream ad provider - the investigation is ongoing.
(Of course, you should be using an adblocker, but a reputable website shouldn't have that sort of ad either. It's a two-way street.)

>>58015985
>repetition. most words that originally repeated are replaced with synonyms in specific places.

Very specific props to you for this, anon. It's something a lot of writers in general do and it's something that I always take notice of. I find it can really make or break a sentence/paragraph and make stuff really awkward to read and sort of ruins it for me. The fact that you've gone to the effort to bother going back and editing your stuff shows you're a good writer that cares about your shit. That's more than I can say for myself.
While I haven't read your stuff yet, (it's on the list along with lots of stuff, since I've never actually been much of a reader, in all honesty.) this sort of stuff is what motivates me to actually sit down and read, if only to show appreciation for the effort it takes for anons to write stuff in the first place. It also motivates me to write more myself, instead of just spending all my time drawing silly pictures.

>>58016133
play full randomizer. I've never done it, but it sounds like a fun challenge.

>>58016117
>>58016190
>>58016278
>Heidi
extremely yes. Blossom is also very straight and wants a husband one day. Shelby too, but is currently in her "boys are lame" era and is an independent woman what don't need no man. She's married to justice and battle.

Who's gay in clover but it's played sincerely.

>>58016910
Enny is sincerely a faggot.

>>58016910
You

>>58015985
>>58016776
Based

>>58016910
They are my clover otp

>>58016910
Define "sincerely"

>>58016117
literally every single pokemon with a romantic subplot that isn't an inside joke
why do you fags always do this? in every single community there's always the guys that go
>lol they all gay doe

>>58017480
Actually homo, as in they would suck benis

>>58017578
Enny, obviously.

>>58017162
These two are so gay that they aren't even sure if they're gay.

This thread went from discussing how pokemon eat meat to which pokemon eats the most man meat real quick
Bust out more mailmons please.

>>58017631
>bust out
>male mons
Odd choice of words anon

>>58017631
Right, we can discuss how good Clover members are at handling packages.

>>58017637
>>58017647
I yield.

>>58017631

>>58017656
cute, but with the cardboard box and cell phone, that's not PMD

>>58017667

>>58017667
Eh, I could accept cardboard with the right explanation - it's just paper.
Not the phone, though.

>>58017683
Apparently cardboard was invented in the 1800s, which feels too modern for PMD in my opinion

>>58017683
Your modern corrugated amerifat burgerstani version of cardboard requires industrial presses to make enough of the stuff on a commercial level.

>>58017750
Reading comprehension is a skill, anon.

>>58017760
I will turn this conversation around back to gay Pokemon meat, mister.

>>58017809
Long as they cute, they girls.

>>58017656
>bad dragon deliveries

>>58017667
It's metal gear now

>xerhnathan

>>58015985
>>58005760
Congratulations you both, p_anon_punki and JDLouis, on such major milestones!

>>57964524
(And to you, Z2H, on another chapter of your work last thread!)

I've made sure to update the Fan Fiction Archive for you folks. Best of luck on your future (and impressive) writing endeavors!

>>58018461
Many thanks brother.

>>58018319
this is gibberish

>>58019976
Cute hat.

>>58019976
I feel like the Shinx is supposed to be the girl protagonist from PLA. The hat, scarf, and eyes looks pretty similar. And maybe the Turtwig was her starter, judging by those human hands holding it up.
Trainer and Pokemon going to PMD together is a neat idea.

>>58019991
Good eye. I wonder how Turtwig got the Relic Fragment then.

>>58017162
Is it really gay to fuck a boy noodle in the cockslit and simultaneously have him jerk you off with his dicks?

>>58020127
In the game, the partner randomly found it on the ground, right? Guess the same could have happened here. Finds it right after they wake up in the PMD world.

>>58020437
Go get gassed by a skuntank.

>>58020437
This is my fetish.
>>58020508
This is not my fetish.

>>58019964
That Charmeleon makes me think of Guilmon

>>58021004
these are just furfaggominations, they're so far detached from the actual pokemon that they're just a donut steel fursona

>>58021065
You sound joyless.

>>58020536
Vanilla

>>58021077
joy can't exist in the absence of hatred and viceversa

>>58021077
He's right though??

>>58021180
I disagree, I managed to have both on different occasions

Does PMD society enforce schooling for children?

>>58020536
gay sex with hats on

>>58022000
There's literally a school in Super Mystery Dungeon. And it's the only good part of the game, too.

>>58020536
Futanari feet inflation

PMD news this direct. Surely.

>>58022463
Nothing today
It’s either next February for the anniversary or fucking bust

>>58022463
Woe, mobile spinoff upon ye

>>58022515
>>58022463
What if we get a PMD mobile game?

>>58022463
THIS TIME
THIS TIME
THIS TIME
THIS TIME FOR SURE

Nothing for this direct but I had no hopes anyways. Although I don’t see the point in announcing this direct 2 months in advance only to show a single new mega and no new console games.

>>58023757
engagement
the real entertainment is the reaction

>>58022104
Yes, but what I meant was if there is societal pressure/expectation for all children to attend school (at least in the towns that do have one).

>>58022491
Told you, fuckers
Pray for your last chance in February 2026 or else kiss this game and this general the final goodbye

>>58025647
it's so fucking over, you guys

Next time for sure.

What a boring presentation

>>58025647
I’ll never kiss this general goodbye as long as we have Clover Guild and other fanworks

>>58008700
My favorite one was posted by >>58009063

>>58026270
This. You can't get rid of me bitch

the megas in the OP are dead

>>58024920
Player/partner drop out of school in Super with little pushback so probably not that much pressure

>>58027121
They've been dead for a while. We need to get rid of them, they're clearly not coming back up

We need more hack devs in this thread.

>>58027877
I'm not a dev but I am a hack

you guys wish you were hollow knight's community soooooo bad, to the point of using the clown costume meme lmao
but sorry, nobody cares about these shitty spin-offs, contrary to the most anticipated sequel in years

>>58028754
Ok, enjoy your microturdsactions in silky smooth song

>>58028754
who?

>>58027877
I have been using PMDO recently. Just trying to make a short dungeon before I make anything real

>>58028523
We need to find a Jirachi so we can get a new PMD game

>>58029141
That would definitely be a reality-warping wish

>>58029141
Sorry anon but if I found a Jirachi I would never wish for a new PMD game. I’d ask to be reincarnated in the PMD world instead.

>>58029687
with the entire clover guild, right?

>>58029703
>close up on anon's face, silent

me on the left

>>58030742
>magical cd containing some wonderous new ability
TM's feel so out of place in pmd like this

>>58030807
What about magic rocks that contain some wonderous new ability?

>>58030826
That would be silly, stones are used to evolve you into wonderous new forms instead.

>>58026270
>>58027105
Fans keeping PMD alive by thier own autism powers is really admirable
On the other hand however, isn’t better to get a new game every now and then to keep the damn thing fresh and possibly new mechanics and hacking tools for new fan projects?
Last time we’ve ever gotten a new game was in fucking 2015, fan efforts can only get you so far before people eventually starting to give up
It’s a miracle that PMD still alive

>>58031478
Yes I would like new PMD and I'm always frustrated we don't have it

>>58031627
>inb4: we don’t need a new game, we can hold on by ourselves
It’s impressive that PMD lived for a decade now, but I am asking this to whoever think like that:
Do you honestly believe fans can keep this shit running for another decade with no new blood? If they chose to skip this and others in favor of mobileslobs -like what we saw now- fans will eventually age the fuck out

>>58031922
why're you looking for external validation from a company who doesn't care?
cultivate it no matter the population

>>58031929
Modern gamers are mindbroken. They can't enjoy a game or a game series for what it is anymore. They need millions of other people playing the same games so they can feel validated.

>>58031922
One major distinction between PMD and the rest of pokemon content is that there is literally nothing like it. Until TPC gives us something like that, we're gonna stay loyal to this series. I love the idea of pokemon in their own little world going on adventures and helping their communities and friends. The mainline games can't compete with it

>>58032250
This.
PMD perfectly combines my love of Pokemon with my love of cute little animal creatures living in a society that was made just for them. I can't get that anywhere else.
The Beatrix Potter stories live rent free in my head every day and are a huge inspiration for my writing and art.

I will sue TPCi for not making new Mystery Dungeon

>why is this very popular spin-off of the biggest entertainment franchise in the world still alive? le how???

>>58030807
I imagine them to be made of thin sheets of crystal or other mineral, and somehow enchanted to carry that information the way orbs carry their effects

>>58032538
>spoiler
If you haven't already, give Redwall a try! Though depending on your age it may be a touch too juvenile for you. I've also heard good things about Mistmantle and Mouse Guard, haven't read them myself though

>>58031929
It's not an issue of validation, it's an issue of having more official material to work with. Fan games are nice and all but a big official release would make for great inspiration.

>>58032235
Are you saying you don't get the fun of sharing an experience with like-minded people? To each their own, but many enjoy having that shared fondness to bond over. Either way, nobody in this thread requires PMD to be popular to enjoy it. Obviously.

*takes a long drag off of my tobacco cigarette* welp, back to coping...

not a roleplay group btw

>>58032731
It is a little surprising. It's the only spinoff series from the DS era that hasn't died off. RIP Pokemon Ranger but you are not missed

>>58032250
This x2. I love idea of pokemons as a various friendly(and not so friendly) monsters, but in mainline games they are so ridicilously focused on battling that all other aspects of their lives simply disappear and they turn from full-fledged individuals with their own character, preferences, history, hobbies, fears into, at best, weak-willed dumb pets, and, at worst, mindless combat slaves. So fuck 'em, and fuck all that stupid human drama, I wanna enjoy everyday life and struggles of this magical critters, not another average humie.

>>58033142
>Redwall

That shit was practically formative for me. RIP Brian Jacques, you were too based and British whimsypilled for this horrible world.

>>58033142
>Redwall
Great audiobooks too, been listening to them on my drive to work.

>>58034299
It's crazy to me that for how much mainline likes to preach about being BFF's with pokemon, the pokemon themselves are essentially nothing more than "the sprite onscreen that lets you click earthquake"

>>58034834
At least you can do things like Pokemon Amie and camping with them nowadays

>>58032250
>I love the idea of pokemon in their own little world going on adventures and helping their communities and friends.
Thats all it comes down to; MD gameplay really isn't some hidden holy grail of gaming. I just want to see POKEMON in my fantasy games and not filthy fucking humans front and center.

>>58034958
It’s nuts to me that Pokken is the closest we’ve ever gotten to an action game where you fight as your Pokemon. ZA kinda looks like it’s inching in that direction but I think a full on Pokemon ARPG would do gangbusters.

>>58035085
>a full on Pokemon ARPG
sure if you don't mind having even less pokemon to use

>>58035085
Pokepark

>>58035109
They just gotta chain the entire Japanese 3D animation industry to their desks for a year and get this model thing sorted.
>>58035150
Oh wow, I’d totally forgotten about this one. Is it any good?

>>58035176
9 women can't make a baby in a month

>>58035176
Never played it

>>58035192
Yet I can hatch my Riolu in a fraction of the time!

>>58035176
Pokepark is kinda fun to play. Only issue I personally have with the games, is that motion controls suck ass, and that they are played with the d pad instead of the analog stick. The minigames are ok and the story is kinda boring, but you can still have fun.

>>58036112
>motion controls
Oh brother

>>58033142
why do you need *official* material if it isn't about validation? ffs all they're going to do is mess it up

>>58036255
Most of the people here bitch and moan about the 3DS games to the point I just ignore them when they cry about what people do in fan content. They'll never be satisfied by anything at this point with such skewed priorities.

I don't really need official material at this point. I've got Skytemple for all the narrative hacks I want (even if most of them suck) and I got PMDO if I want actual gameplay

I like the idea of PMD-inhabitant Pokemon wearing (MINIMAL) clothing and accessories if they live near the remnants of human civilization. Perhaps they think covering the groin was a human method of staving off bad luck/showing respect??

>>58037016
>PMDO
People still actually play that?
I remember checking back in it a few years ago and there was like 3 people online.

>>58037309
'goose covering his fat 'ick to use it on 'viper later

>>58037403
pmdo is a fangame engine, not an online game (you're thinking of PMU pokemon mystery universe)

PMDO is unfortunately kinda dead because everyone flocks to skytemple

>>58037801
>pmdo is a fangame engine, not an online game (you're thinking of PMU pokemon mystery universe)
You're right. My bad. Lack of sleep is getting to me.

>>58037801
It’s a damn shame, PMDO’s dungeon generation and mechanics are a direct upgrade imo. Not to mention it just looks easier to work with compared to SkyTemple (not that I’ve tried). If any of you have used both, would you say that’s about right, or does SkyTemple have some advantages?

>>58037892
i'm (probably) the only person in PMD who can properly answer this question since almost nobody has put significant work into both PMDO and Skytemple except for me

PMDO is a lot more powerful and easier to use, but you have to reinvent the wheel pretty heavily, and it doesn't quite hit the same feel as Skytemple given that it IS ultimately a facsimile of it. The gameplay in PMDO is way better at base though, and with the tools at play you can make cool and interesting things way easier than in Skytemple, where anything that isn't bogstandard becomes either a giant creative effort to make use of vanilla moves/tools, or becomes a giant programming effort to add things via CoT or asm. Though, Skytemple definitely lets people be lazier since a lot of stuff is already built in. You also can play on DS hardware with skytemple products.

There's more than just this, but these are the main differences I'd say. Each has its plus and minuses. Lately jams have required me to focus on Skytemple but I wish PMDO had jams since it'd be a lot easier to do cool and interesting things with it...

Last for cuddling with kiyo

>>58040343
>>58040343
>>58040343

Last for cuddling with everyone

Last for cuddling with nobody