if i had a nickel for every time a pokemon with no fire STAB options got an ability that boost fire type moves i'd have two nickels
which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice

>>58005460 (OP)
I feel bad for Groudon. It’s been powercrept to hell and back. Even Kyogre is still trucking along.

>>58005460 (OP)
and both are the mascots of the red version game

>>58005464
Kyogre was always going to win that usage battle because its synergy is way better.
It's one of the premier hyper offense mons alongside Caly S and Miraidon.

Koraidon's super drought is not fair.
Groudon's only hope is for the Primal version to come back with Megas.

>>58005466
Wow you are right anon, you are quite the observant fellow. I wonder why the pokemon capable of boosting the power of fire happen to belong to the reddish version of their pair! Truly a mystery.

>>58005535
What a sarcastic smartass comment! Unfortunately, you're not as smart as you think because it is an unusual thing that they are version exclusive legendarily and that was the main part of my comment.

>>58005543
>it is an unusual thing that they are version exclusive legendarily
It's not. And you tried to one up but didn't actually provide any sarcasm yourself. And that's not how you spell "legendaries".

>>58005511
Rayquaza could return given he's an actual Mega and a pokemon that can go around without causing disasters but Groudon and Kyogre are apocalyptic beasts by default and their "megas" aren't even actual megas so I wouldn't count with them showing up in Paris
They will for sure return for Pokemon Champions tho

>>58005464
>Even Kyogre is still trucking along.

Water type is objectively a top 3 type in the game. It was always intended to be superior

>>58005535
Nta but there's plenty of fire types that don't feature red as their primary color in design or have it at all, you just look like a retarded asshole.

>>58005546
>It's not.
prove it
>And you tried to one up but didn't actually provide any sarcasm yourself.
i didn't

>>58005566
Yeah, some fire types aren't reddish. Usually, they are. Therefore if your legendaries are red isn't weird for them to have some power linked to the fire type, there's not a single remarkable thing about it, honestly.
Stop pretending you aren't dumb, you aren't good at it.

>>58005566
>>58005575
>Therefore if your legendaries are red isn't weird for them to have some power linked to the fire type
That's not even the point I made

>>58005460 (OP)
Phineas and Ferb was never good, and people only remember it fondly because they grew up with it.

>>58005460 (OP)
It's not just a non-fire-type summoning sun, it's the counterpart getting a STAB boost from its summoned field effect.

>>58005464
>I feel bad for Groudon. It’s been powercrept to hell and back. Even Kyogre is still trucking along.
He'd be fine if he got his Primal back

In Koraidon's case they did it with Terastallization in mind, so it's not exactly a poor choice. It will be rendered less useful and kind of senseless when he shows up in a game with no Tera though.
In Groudon's case they did it primarily for lore reasons, but it does at least work as a defensive buff.

>>58005563
What are the best types? Ghost, Steel, Water, Ground, Flying?

>>58005946
Groudon and Kyogre were WAY overpowered wih their primal forms.
No thanks.

>>58005989
Fairy, Steel, Water

>>58006208
I highly doubt they'd still be OP.

>>58005566
Reshiram's tail glow red anon.

>>58005511
I'll be glad if base Groudon can be transferred to legends za via pokemon home.

>>58005460 (OP)
>twice

>>58006956
>fire STAB options
Retard

>>58005535
>I wonder why the pokemon weak to fire happens to belong to the reddish version of its pair! Truly a mystery.

>>58005989
In order
Ghost > Steel > Water > Fairy > Ground > Dark > Flying

>>58006208
not so much kyogre. specs still outdamages it i think and scarf is really great. the main reason you want primal kyogre is just because it can disrupt primal groudon