Are there any Pokemon you used on an in game team that disappointed you or didn't meet your expectations? If so, what game did you use them in?

For me, its Jellicent, Reuniclus, and Chandelure. I used Jellicent and Reuniclus in a recent playthrough of B/W, and they just kind of suck. They take so much damage for 'bulky' Pokemon, and are too slow to do anything. Normally they get one hit off before dying. The same was the case for Chandelure in a seperate B/W playthrough. I don't mean this to bash Unova mons, but these three specifically are the only standout examples in my mind.
With Reuniclus and Chandelure, I can't help but think how much I would rather be using Alakazam or Gengar.

In fairness, I used Chandelure in base B/W, whilst the other two were in the rom hack "Jet Black" - which purports to be around the difficulty of B2W2 challenge mode but for B/W. Still, any pokemon you used in a playthrough, offical game or otherwise, that didn't live up to your expectations?

>>58012260 (OP)
>Are there any Pokemon you used on an in game team that disappointed you or didn't meet your expectations?
Venusaur, Blastoise, Meganum, Swampert, Torterra, Samurott, Emboar, Chesnaught, Rillaboom, Quaquaval

>>58012260 (OP)
Basically any Pokemon with less than base 80 Speed

>>58012260 (OP)
Really? I’ve used all three of these and they were largely fine from what I recall. Anyway for me it was Girafarig. Really shitty Pokemon to use in HGSS. Just pick Abra desu

>>58012260 (OP)
I had a totally different experience, Jellicent was my MVP in my most recent B2 run, exceeded my expectations.

I would say for me Exploud was disappointing. just seems very mediocre for a 3-stage mon.

>>58012260 (OP)
He just didn't pack the punch I thought he would. Wound up replacing him with Barbaracle, who turned out to be way better than I expected.

>>58012264
dipshit

>>58012260 (OP)
Im using a Jellicent right now and it's perfectly fine. Its bulk is in Sp Def, not Def.

To answer your question, uh... Cacturne? I love the design, but it just kept taking too much damage.

>>58012283
Used Exploud in my last Emerald run. STAB Strength and STAB Hyper Beam were fucking awesome. He was pretty great honestly. Like a lesser, but more consistent Slaking.

oricorio's atrocious level up moveset
and mons that take forever to get the moves that make them not a headache to use in general

>>58012260 (OP)
Sigilyph (BW). Doesn't hit that hard especially approaching endgame. And frail to Rock, Ghost, Dark, which seem quite common
Mr. Mime (FRLG): Similar scenario with Siglyph. Never really liked using one-stage mons in the first place but mr. mime's performance was quite mediocre.
Mightyena (Emerald). Dark being special only back in Gen 3 hurts so bad. By the lategame it could barely pull its own weight, barely useful
Mamoswine (HGSS): While it did hit hard, it was slow and frail and frequently dying.
Talonflame XY: Fast but movepool wasn't that strong except for Brave Bird / Flare Blitz, recoil moves which makes it more prone to fainting.
Shiftry (ORAS): Mediocre speed, frail and lots of weaknesses. And not THAT amazing offense. If you can sword dance and outspeed the enemy it could easily sweep though.
I never bother with EV IV and grinding so it might influence the above performances
On the other hand, some pokemon went beyond my expectations and were a delight to use: Pelipper, Tentacruel (Emerald), Honchkrow and Frosslass (BDSP), Drifblim, Rhyperior (Plat) Stoutland, Klinklang (BW), A-Muk (SM), Cloyster (USUM), Bewear (in SS)

>>58012461
Game Freak moment.
Make a type change gimmick but fail to fulfill said gimmick by giving Oricorio a shit movepool.
It's like Tyrant and Tyrantrum having Strong Jaw but the elemental biting moves and Poison Fang being only egg moves, while also not giving it a signature biting move for STAB.

and Aurorus not having Aurora Veil in gen 7 will forever be unforgivable

>>58012260 (OP)
Shedinja.
I knew it was weak, but thought it would be a fun gimmick mon to use. Tried it on SWSH and basically every pokémon in the game has a supereffective move that hit it, making it useless in basically every point of the game.
And I already knew they were bad, but I thought Beedrill and Kricketune would have some use, but no.
All bugs because bug runs

>>58012461
Oricorio is supposed to benefit from its partner's moveset, so it's by design it doesn't have an amazing one by itself

>>58012260 (OP)
Floatzel in Platinum is pretty dogshit.
>hits like a paper bag until it gets crunch in the late 20s, and then you don’t even have a use for it because you’re up against the fighting leader next
>best water attack until you beat the 5th gym is fucking aqua jet
>and even then its water stab until you get surf (2/3 of the way into the game) is brine
>dies if an opponent sneezes on it (base 55 defense btw)
The fact that you get the infinitely better Shellos in the exact same area is the cherry on top.

When I found out dragonair evolved into this

>stats comparable to Meganium, except it's a slow mixed attacker with pitiful physical defenses
>by the time it gains its ghost typing, everything in Alola is spamming Crunch, Sucker Punch, and other physical dark attacks
>too slow to fight back and it's lucky to even get a single hit off before it faints

At least Meganium had enough bulk, and even a bit more speed, to get up some helpful support moves before fainting. Decidueye was easily the biggest dead weight of any starter I've ever used. I don't even want to imagine how it is in PLA with that even worse stat distribution and defensive typing.

>>58013230
Shit taste.

>>58012364
I feel like mine can't take special or physical hits, maybe I just have IVs or something because I had heard it was good.
>>58012881
I used Mamoswine in HGSS recently, can see where you're coming from. Felt it was alright, but 9/10 battles its only purpose was to click Ice Shard.
Agree with Tentacruel, one of my favourite water types to use in any game.
>>58013220
This is the most surprising one, never used Floatzel but I thought it would at least be good because it appears on the generic Sinnoh team.

These two. Compared to others on my team in Gen 7, they heavily consumed potions and felt more a burden than an asset.

>>58012260 (OP)
Vikavolt was terrible to use ingame, you get eviolite pretty early so Charjabug could stand up on its own pretty easily, but you eventually get bored of using it and the fucker gets to evolve at the very end of the game, and what you get? Something that gets two shot by anything and will always go last, so you'd always attack with it once and then switch out for something better, it felt weaker than just using eviolite Charjabug

>>58013321
Only because it looks cool and available early as the mandatory surfer. Floatzel (special moves) hits like wet noodle and is frail like glass. Being a physical water type sucks, it gets Waterfall/Aqua Tail quite late. The only thing it gets is high speed but if you fail to sweep and not particularly careful with the matchups, floatzel gets worn down really quickly and will cost you a lot of potions.

>>58012260 (OP)
I used Magcargo for the first in the Teal Mask and I mean, I expected it to be shit but wow, it was genuinely outright unusable.

Serperior didn't hit hard enough and its support movepool was limited.

>>58013120
Shedinja is look up the opponent’s move set first: the Mon. It wins anything that can’t hit it but loses otherwise. It’s gotten worse over the years because of moveset expansions unfortunately

>>58013123
Good thing Alola is just CHOCK FULL of Double Battles, then.

>>58012260 (OP)
I recently played White 2 and I feel the complete opposite about Reuniclus. It's slow, yes, but mine could withstand a lot of hits - even supereffective moves -, while it could one-shot most opponents' Pokémon with just one Psychic. I had a lot of fun using it.
But I think the main thing here is IVs. I remember using Politoed in Ultra Moon and feeling disappointed by it because it didn't hit hard enough. Once I finished the playthrough, I looked up my Pokémon's IVs on PKHeX; and not only did its nature lower its Special Attack, but its IVs were terrible too.
I also remember Wigglytuff in Leaf Green being just... disappointing. It doesn't hit really hard, doesn't do a lot of interesting stuff, save for putting opponents to sleep with Sing (which doesn't have very good accuracy anyways). Though perhaps I was just using it wrong, and asking it to do things it's not naturally good at.
But apart from that, I feel like most mons pull their weight, even many shitmons.
Though, honestly, after the Politoed fiasco, nowadays if I'm playing on an emulator, I always check my Pokémon's stats on PKHeX and reroll them if they're bad. I don't make them have 31 IVs on everything and a beneficial nature; just that they're at least mediocre. I know this is cheating, but I know too much and it bothers me if my Pokémon has bad IVs and a bad nature.

>>58012260 (OP)
all three of those pokemon are great and you are a shitter

>>58013988
>I also remember Wigglytuff in Leaf Green being just... disappointing. It doesn't hit really hard, doesn't do a lot of interesting stuff, save for putting opponents to sleep with Sing (which doesn't have very good accuracy anyways).
it learns dream eater from the tutor in viridian. and if you get lucky with cute charm you get a lot of extra turns to work with.

>>58012260 (OP)
Heracross in Crystal. Lack of halfway decent stab moves early on felt awful so it was relegated to HM slave. Strength coming off of base 125 attack is serviceable, but it makes me feel like I was better off using a Machop
>>58013988
I found Wigglytuff to be pretty good in the early game. Evolves really early and you can immediately teach it Mega Punch/Kick. Unfortunately it falls off fast after Surge. Being a Normal type that can learn Shadow Ball matches well against half of Agatha's team, but that's about it for the latter half of Kanto. Its saving grace is access to Sing and both Light Screen and Reflect to offer team utility. But one could argue you could just use Clefable instead for all of the reasons above. Still love the little critter regardless.

>>58012461

This

I wanted to use Fire Oricorio against Brassius but he doesnt even get good fire moves till much later. I mean it does get a ton of flying moves but I wanted to have a good Fire Pokemon for other parts of the game.

>>58014234
I was disappointed in Heracross too but except it was for Black 2. For having such a high attack stat and using a jolly nature, it rarely 1HKO anything, he's frail, and so many things have outsped it. Even my Golduck performed better against Ghetsis. Still love my Heracross but he's definitely the jobber of my team. At least he's bit more competent ever since slapping a choice scarf onto him though.

>>58012260 (OP)
pokemon don't disappoint me, gamefreak disappoints me when they don't give a cool pokemon a good kit

>>58012260 (OP)
I tried making chandelure work in pokemon reborn but it kept falling short of crucial KO's or missing Fire Blast and was a bit lackluster compared to the rest of my team, only in the postgame I realised I should've been using volcarona the whole time plus I hatched the best fan shiny of all time

Another mon I tried making work was Nihilego but it's horrid defense stat, typing and needing a beast boost to do serious damage while the opponent always had a mon who resisted it's STABs was annoying and boxed it for Gengar

>>58012260 (OP)
Jellicent is great.
I kind of agree about Chandelure, it's not bad, it's just...underwhelming. Especially after the grind to evolve Litwick is such a pain in the ass, I just had higher expectations.

My biggest disappointment was Silvally, I really like it but I just couldn't find a way to make it work for me.

No, I'm not one of those "it should've been some epic dragon" guys, I just don't like the segmentation and how big the head is. If anything I wanted Dunsparce but bigger. Gholdengo was also a disappointment

>>58013988
Yes sad thing is, despite a lot of people insisting that "iv ev nature doesn't matter" for in-game, it is indeed capable of affecting your mons performance. I still don't care about IVs but I do care about nature and try to give them EV boosting vitamins etc, and I tend to enjoy the game more that way

>>58012260 (OP)
Onix I expected to hit harder. Magnaton I expected to be faster.

Gyarados in PLA. First the fakeout with the lv19 Magikarp that gains XP super-slowly, then once it evolved it was pretty underwhelming.