we want a new mystery dungeon

>>58016498 (OP)
They'd fuck it up somehow

new pokepark too

>>58016498 (OP)
>waaaah where's my ultra-casualized pokeshit sloppa for babies
Play a REAL Mystery Dungeon game.

>>58016546
Does your real, not for babies, definitely cared-about Mystery Dungeon game have Pokémon in it? No? Then not interested, faggot

>>58016498 (OP)
It'd be fun if Tinkatons had a high drop rate for gravelerrocks

>>58016546
That's not a Zangoose or a Furret. Not even a Sentret.
What is that?

>>58016578
Based

No-one bought the last one, its final chance of still continuing, so Ishihara's not going to bother funding more.

>>58017700
I bought SMD. If you mean the remake then no I didn't buy that. Are they pulling an AlphaDream and hinging the future of a series on the sales of a remake? If so they have terrible business sense

>>58018087
>pulling an AlphaDream and hinging the future of a series on the sales of a remake
To be fair, AlphaDream's remake in question was on a nearly dead console, for a game that didn't need a remake at all, so it's even more terrible business sense. Either way, it's a dumb decision.

>>58017700
The last one wasn't a new mystery dungeon is was a lazy remake with missing content and a filter over it

>>58016546
Based

>>58019201
The last one was a TRUE Mystery Dungeon game (aka Shiren 6)

They're porting SMD remastered to Switch 2 tomorrow
>source
It was revealed to me in a dream, just like everything about this series.

I find it funny how PMD fans cry and moan for another game while Shiren Chads got a mostly decent game after a decade long Drought of content (and after Shiren 3 almost killed the series)

PMD fans are so pathetic

>>58019535
just saying extremely likely things doesn't count though
>>58019538
>tries to boast about "Shiren Chads"
>admits their last game was "mostly decent" and the game before that almost "killed the series" anyway
kekaroo

>>58019549
>admits their last game was "mostly decent"
6 is good, just not as good as the spin off Shiren, 2, 4 or 5 since it's a "back to basics" type of deal, copying the first Shiren in terms of gameplay.
>and the game before that almost "killed the series" anyway
>the game before that
>apparently 6 goes directly after 3
Go back to school anon.
I didn't mention 4 or 5 since they never left Japan until the PSvita/Steam release of 5.
Nice try.

>>58019549
Where's the lie?
PMD fans wouldn't be able to last a full decade without a new toy yearly

>>58019609
super was a decade ago

>>58019612
>ignores DX
Nice argument unfortunately it doesn't work

>>58019621
>DX is a real game
lol
lmao even

>>58019626
Even then Super is like 9 years old to this day
>September 17, 2015 (Super JP release)
Between Shiren 5 DS and 6 there's almost 15 years
>December 9 2010 (5 DS)
>January 25, 2024 (JP 6)

>>58019609
>PMD fans wouldn't be able to last a full decade without a new toy yearly
Gotta say, it really takes guts to say this on a board where faggots will cry and shit their pants because they have to wait one WHOLE year for the new main series, low-effort pokéslop, and worse, because they don't get info on said new game every goddamn day.

We get it, you've had to wait longer for your big boy MD series; just remember that when the inevitable PMD2 remake gets announced (or, less likely, a new PMD game), people will give even less of a shit about your fairly obscure series. Because it doesn't have "Pokémon" slapped on it. Which, admittedly, isn't really a good thing, but that's not reason enough to advertise Shiren for a cock-measuring contest when nobody asked. Grow the fuck up.

>>58019665
Don't get me wrong man, I like PMD but it's easy as fuck and unbalanced. I recently completed all the post game activities of EoS:
>All legendaries
>beat Destiny Tower
>beat Zero Isle
And I had fun. What I don't like is this conception of how Mystery Dungeon is inseparable from the Pokémon trademark which is not true, and to be brutally honest, a lot of PMD fans don't care about the gameplay, they just care about their "friendship triumphs all" plot which isn't bad by itself but you are certainly doing a disservice to what's essentially a purely gameplay focused series

>>58019687
Also it's funny to me how apparently Super is the most "Shiren-like" in the gameplay department and due to that it seems to leave a bad taste in people's mouth because it's "intrusive" to the plot, it's something that gets in the way of the "real" game.
I'll be honest that I haven't played Super yet, but that speaks to me:
>The average PMD fan doesn't like the Mystery Dungeon aspects
Which is so bizarre to me, at that point the series might fare better as a VN with slight RPG elements like idk Digimon Survive maybe

>>58018087
That's exactly the one I meant, when the market had fluxed enough to warrant trying it, to see WAS there an interest.
>>58019201
>it doesn't meet my autistic determination
Don't give a shit, you piteous litte furnigger. It WAS a PMD game, WAS the first time in almost 5 years they'd gave it attention and WAS in fact released on one of the most popular video game consoles of all time, in a series that saw a marked increased on its past sales on handheld systems, only to fail about as badly as expected, because kids aren't starved of Pokémon content to consume like (You) were back in 2005 as a retarded little 8 year old.

>>58019745
NTA
DX didn't fail lmao, hundreds of devs would kill to sell 2M copies
In terms of Pokémon games, there are no failures only greater and smaller successes

>>58019762
NTA but it's clear the amount of effort that would go to 1 (that's one) single PMD game would be better spent making mobile games like Masters, Shuffle, Cafe and Unite

The market has changed, PMD is simply not needed in the eyes of TPC (and to a lesser extent Spike Chunsoft)

>>58019724
NTA but Super's plot was ass. At its best its more of the same. most PMD fans are there because they're furries or have TF kink, they just want to play as a pokemon when most of those options now are all sweaty pvp things to be fair but it definitely feels very face-value

Though I'll admit in terms of mystery dungeon games I've only played PMD, and Super turned me off gameplay wise because of looplets and emeras, e.g. they were actively random things that you picked up in dungeons that more or less determined how effective you could actually be for that run. I was able to stick with a lot of the earlier pmds because I felt like i could do a decent amount of prep prior to actually going into a dungeon and it would feel worthwhile, with how imbalanced looplets and emeras were trying to prep beforehand felt like a waste and everything else around it wasn't satisfying enough to make up for it.
Is that more common of Shiren-like mystery dungeons? I can definitely see the appeal but it just wasn't done well in Super imo

>>58019821
>Is that more common of Shiren-like mystery dungeons?
Well Shiren games have a "tutorial" dungeon (more like a warm up dungeon to get used to the most basic mechanics since those change a bit from game to game) which is like 30F long, you are allowed to bring items and allies into the dungeon and grind as much as you want BUT those dungeons are balanced assuming you are entering empty handed, getting the basics (food, weapons, utility items) throughout the dungeon and using your own abilities as best as you can

The post game of Shiren games is, most of the time, 99F dungeons with extra rules like being unable to level up, your direct attack being worthless or stuff like that

They clearly have different design philosophies.
And honestly I'll be lying if i said that i dont find it funny seeing PMD fans drowning in what's essentially a glass of water
>Emeras and Looplets
From my experience, Even Shiren fans find those mechanics somewhat flawed so there's that and the fact that balancing Pokémon is hard as balls (both mainline and PMD)

>>58016498 (OP)
Dead franchise without new ideas. They didn't bother updating the gameplay, it's repetitive and tedious. Bye bye forever

>>58019847
There's also some dungeons which are balanced around bringing overpowered items (think Zero isle but way harder) and even those can be conquered going empty handed most of the time

Shiren is more about the challenge while PMD is more about the journey I guess

>>58016498 (OP)
the newer ones suck
the partner ai makes them unplayable

>>58019905
Is full control at the press of a button too much? Like Shiren 3, the only game that let's you control allies, let's you do just that

>>58018087
>>58019182
Alphadrean fucked themselves over by trying to get into PS4 development.

>>58019762
>Game
Freak sell 26m just by releasing a new Gen
>GO earns money hand over fist from its shop and ticket sales
>TCG prints money as quickly as the print cards
>Merchandise is responsible for the series position at the head to the list of multimedia franchises by revenue
>spin offs no longer can dupe kids into forcing full-ticket cart price sales
Coupled with smartphones replacing the tellypox as virtual babysitter and we've reached a point where 2m sales for a full 3D title IS a failure, without getting into the nuts'n'bolts of it coming from the biggest multimedia franchise in history and failing.

>>58019182
that game was also playable on that system since 3DS was backwards compatible with DS

>>58016498 (OP)
The last three mystery dungeon games sucked ass

>>58021267
The last three PMD games were Gates To Infinity (kinda mid), Super (amazing), and Rescue Team DX (a remake of Red/Blue Rescue Team)

Taking this at face value? That means the only PMD you actually like is Explorers. Unless you mean to tell me you like the Wiiware titles

If you get a new game (not remake) today I'll apologize for >>58019609

In any case let's hope it's a good game

>>58016546
I tried this game, it looks interesting for sure but there was one thing that genuinely pissed me the fuck off
> pick up an item…. It’s sticky
> pick up an item…. It’s cursed
> pick up an item…. Take a guess
> before you know it, half of your inventory is a massive dead weight
> you need a scroll to cleanse each or predict correctly what is the item
Is there a strategy to get around this problem??
>inb4 got gud
>inb4 skill issues
>inb4 delete the game

>>58022427
>pick up an item…. It’s sticky
Uhh... there's no sticky status in Shiren, anon.
Only cursed (and Sealed) status for items
>before you know it, half of your inventory is a massive dead weight
There's holding jars to expand your inventory (changes from game to game but at minimum you should be able to insert 3 items per jar)
>Is there a strategy to get around this problem??
Normally Cursed items/equipment don't appear in the main story dungeon so idk what's happening

May I ask which Shiren game did you tried?

>>58022486
> Uhh... there's no sticky status in Shiren, anon.
By the time I posted I realized I mixed up between PMD and this
I picked up the dungeon of serpentcoil island since it was on sale and the latest installment and it’s my first game, IDK of I should pick up the DLC which is hidden for some bizarre reason
Thanks for the tips, I didn’t know about those jars

>>58022579
Ah so Shiren 6, yeah it's a bit on the harsher side (not super hard but has that early installment jank that was present in the OG Shiren 1)
Equipment can be uncursed if you:
>plate it via Plating scroll
>fuse the item with a non cursed synthesis ingredient
>upgrade it via heaven/earth scroll

I must say that Shiren 6 has a sort of meta progression where you unlock features that where already present in previous games so go for those if you can

Damn, no PMD game...

>>58021267
Super was great fun.