>>58038643I feel like you're reaching by including Tangrowth and Rhyperior, Magmortar, Electivire, Dusclops they at least tried, and for the most part are coolmons, otherwise I agree
>>58038687Venasaur is a coolmon though, so maybe just Bulbasaur specifically.
>>58038936the Charizard fanbase is stuck in the world where Gen 1 was a hit worldwide, and they just latched on to the most generic dragon design and probably didn't even like Pokemon that much in the first place, the other side is like the Indian internet saying that any Pokemon being more powerful or valuable than Charizard is illegal.