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>>58039126 (OP)>they go with a very cute and feminine looking girl like Lyra to compesante for the T coded Penni from last set.BASED
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Looking for Arcanine (GA), it's the last card I need to complete the set.
569-1552-7999-8433
>celebi in already
These are the only 2 Johtomons people care about
>>58039170Those motherfucking translators promised me a shoe not a scarf
>>58039170>posted this just to advertise r*dditHow much of a cuck do you have to be to perform an actual job for free?
Why didn't they let Solgaleo and Lunala have immersives?
It's not fair...
>>58039224because they were too focused on Shillie
>>58039224>The amount of engagement died the moment Lillie got an inmersiveThis is why nobody like Lilliefags
>>58039224Because Lillie, who sells gangbusters. They tried to hide the fact they were focusing in Lillie by giving Guzma an immersive too but it was clear it was all about her because she moves money.
...
She actually made me buy a gold pack out of desperation for getting her immersive (which I did with that paid pack) so yeah, IT WORKS.
>>58039224Gen 7 got fucked over lol
>>58039224Gen 7 has some recognizable characters due the anime
Gen 2 has nothing
>>58039244>Sold so well the game is dead
>>58039283>Gen 7 has some recognizable characters due the anime>due to the ashnimeWAT? Anon, everyone knew who the girls from SM were long before the ashnime reached them, specially Lillie. All SM girls got shitloads of fanart long before their ashnime debut.
https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/bring-deep-blue-power-with-wisdom-of-sea-and-sky
>Trade tokens will be discontinued, and you will no longer need to consume cards in order to trade.
>no longer need to consume cards
>>58039351You need to trade cards for tokens to trade
>>58039355That's strange wording, because you never "needed" to consume cards to trade.
Wisdom of Sea and Sky is a dumb name that doesn't flow
Should have just been Sea-Sky Wisdom or Raining Wisdom
>>58039313I wished I start doing Digital art during SM era. Those were crazy times. It was literally an Arms race on who could get the first fanart on Twitter.
>try to use Silver to disrupt the CPUs frame perfect combos
>they redraw it next turn anyway
Bet you anything this bullshit will happen regularly because the CPU battles are rigged as fuck
>>58039174You are missing a number
>>58039434Oops, here:
>>58039174*6569-1552-7999-8433
>>58039154>Lyra>not.KrisIt's shit
A friend made this edit about baby cards coming soon, but I don't know what to add as a funny caption,any ideas?
>>58039448Part of me wishes I played Master Sex, but I'm also glad I didn't because Pocket has put DeNA on my "never again" list
>>58039591If you played it you would wish part of you never did. It's an awful game
>>58039351Mark my words, the switch to Shinedust from Trade Tokens is going to be so much worse.
The original trade token system was designed in a way where they basically limited the amount you can trade and a pace they chose. Yes, you can technically trash cards to get more, but that was so inefficient that you were better off just waiting.
Now? You can pay to trade. And the costs are gonna be so nuts that the only people who can trade at reasonable paces are those with premium accounts.
>>58039597>Mark my words, the switch to Shinedust from Trade Tokens is going to be so much worse.Oh yeah. There's no way it's going to match the exchange rate from the store. And with how much shinedust you've been able to amass(I have over a million without even trying), there is no way they will let you get every EX and star car you want.
>>58039597>Mark my words, the switch to Shinedust from Trade Tokens is going to be so much worse.I'm pretty sure everyone is expecting it to be somehow worse, when the Trade Token + Stamina bullshit itself was already much worse than anyone's nightmare scenarios were expecting.
Iโm balding and I havenโt been coping well with it. Was thinking of saving up for some minoxidl but realized the new set coming out is probably worth it more. I canโt wait for meganium ex
>>58039620>saving up for some minoxidlBro, that shit is like $10 on Amazon, what the fuck do you mean "saving up"
>>58039607>Over a millionDamn, thanks for keeping ptcg in business
>>58039663It's not hard to get that much. You just have to not care about flairs.
>>58039382Name is fine and your names are worse
Sea-Sky Wisdom is jarring
Raining Wisdom implies wisdom is raining from the sky, rather than it being the wisdom OF the sky
>>58039671Over a million is heavy paypigging
Are you sure you don't mean 100k?
24 free pack hour glasses
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>>58039676>Are you sure you don't mean 100k?Yeah, you're right I was misremembering what the UI looked like, I just knew it was all 9s whenever I'd look.
>>58039683How do you have so many shop tickets? Granted I've barely done any of the pve stuff. I spend them monthly on all the shop stuff so I'm only in the 500s.
>>58039682Do they arrive right away?
>>58039688I did all the pve stuff.
>>58039690Nevermind, I can't read.
>>58039688I also have like 500 or 600, but there are a decent chunk of missions that I never completed in PvE. It could probably be like 700 maybe even 800 if I had done them all.
>>58039672kill yourself tasteless faggot
name is too wordy and we already have space-time smackdown (albeit it sucks as well)
>Raining Wisdom implies wisdom is raining from the sky, rather than it being the wisdom OF the skyyou're retarded
>>58039690Reddit said it could take up to a half hour. Still waiting for mine. It's been about 10 minutes.
>>58039697You're a fucking spaz jesus
>>58039706Ignore the schizo
>>58039723I might leak a bit of cummy wummies if you keep yelling at me
>.<
>ampharos isn't EX
its never been more fucking over
Anyone get the 24 pack hr glasses? It's been a half hour and I haven't gotten them yet. Hope that website was legit and they don't hack my pocket account.
>>58039682Technologylet here, how do I use this?
>>58039745>your code will be emailed to you within a week of you opting in
>>58039748Just click the link and sign up for the pokemon mail. It's that simple but you need to use a real email address.
>>58039126 (OP)Ho-oh is one of my favourite pokemon =)
>>58039775cum tribute it?
why is it always fire water and lightning energy
never grass
the og trio is fire water grass but grass is left out
>>58039176I know man Quagsire is is the GOAT
>>58039176I care about steelix...
>>58039784>Flareon, Vaporeon, Jolteon>Articuno, Zapdos, Moltress>Suicune, Raikou, Entei
>>58039784Reference to the "Tower Incident" and Ho-oh kids?
>Another Eevee ex
Just let me get the FA Sylveon...
>>58039914Speaking of Eevee exs, good GRIEF they do not stop shilling the little guy. 4A will probably have Vaporeon and Jolteon exs to complete the set, I'm guessing.
>>58039126 (OP)Are these rare? I have the top half of the Ho-Oh one if anyone wants to buy it off of me for four krillion gazoobilly doobilly dollars
>>58039927how about a dick pic and a killer brownie recipe instead?
>>58039224Because the Alola girls such as Lillie (Most popular by far), Lana, Acerola, and Mallow have proven time and time again that their fans will dump all their money Into any merchandise when they get It rather It's physical or In a game. When any of them get an alt In Masters It explodes on the charts and Is likely the reason gen 7 has so much focus In Masters. In conclusion Sun and Moon turned an entire generation Into rabid lolicons or at least If they weren't already lolicons.
Even with the winstreak bonuses it still took forever to reach masterball. I can't even imagine the kind of unemployed lifeless subhuman that climbed to master without this bonus.
>>58039997Congratulations.
>>58039940They overcompensate for gen 6 lackluster characters that nobody cares about, the fact a fucking "generic NPC" overshadowed EVERYONE but Serena (who had MC and ashnime advantage) must have left them extremely bitter.
>>58039940>Acerola>nigga think he's on the teamlmao
Pokemon shills Eevees so hard yet my favorite eevolution gets shafted all the time
>5 Eevees in Unite and no Jolteon
>The eevolution line is about to get 4 EX cards in Pokemon pocket and Jolteon is relegated to packfiller status
Fuck you pokemon stop shilling that troon Sylveon and give the people what they want
>>58039174Sent you trade, I'll take whatever
>>58040024For such a shilled group I'm surprised the gen 1 Eeveelutions are its least popular
Even the largely memed Vaporeon hangs just in the middle of the pack in terms of popularity
>>58040058Thanks for the Arcanine!
I'm probably going to be made fun of a week from now, but I'm saying it. This set will be shit.
>>58040225Explain why it will be shit so we can make more fun out of you
>>58040233I fucking hate it's mega. I am so depressed man, I want to be have to enjoy pokemon mindless again.
>>58040233>use this guy with a single copy of GA Dragonite>find myself preferring to go into GA Dragonite since powering up Dragonite on the bench means the opponent's field is generally untouched so Dragonite ex would have to go through 3 skip-a-turn attacks to end the game
Umbreon and Silver from what we've seen seem like they're gonna be new staples. Wonder if we're gonna see a horseshit Miltank EX + Whitney Supporter combo for the memes
>>58040232Lugia and Ho-oh will be shit. Espeon EX will be shit. The other EXs are shit. Silver will be the most unfun card in existence when you get fucking Silver'd and Red Carded and Mars'd back to back to back and you can't even play the game. Crobat EX will be surprisingly good.
>pull single pack hourglass out of wonder picks
>have an uneven amount now
>can't fix it without fucking up my pull schedule
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>58039782That Swanna seems interesting.
>>58040318it's an effect that would be really good if the thing just had a bit more hp. as-is, it's liable to get killed before it can get the attack off if you're going first.
80 hp just doesn't cut it.
what set should i aim for if im starting out? silvaly sounds good so maybe his?
>>58040381yeah, pull extradimensional crisis if you want to get a playable deck asap.
guzzlord ex/dark UBs and buzzwole ex/grass UBs are both still viable and can be assembled just from that set alone, plus you get a lot of other cards that are meta-relevant like zeraora, tapu koko ex, shiinotic, and of course silvally.
>>58040403sounds good
i got lucky with a guzzlord pull so hopefully i can get more cards to make him work
>>58040381Extradimensional Crisis, definitely. Both UB decks and part of Silvally comes from there and they're all good. Then try and trade for trainers and items you need. Silvally needs Oricorios (Zeras are in EC) or Rampardos too, keep that in mind.
Next up is Eevee Grove, if you can snipe some of the Eeveelutions exs from the rare event you'll get a headstart. I'd say aim for Flareon Leafeon if you're doing that and get lucky, since Leafeons in Rare Picks right now I believe.
>>58039927I'll buy it off you, srsly.
Assuming you aren't charging fuck crazy prices.
>>58040291I think Silver will become a staple card, but I don't lose my mind over card denial. It'll make life harder for Sivally players
Thank you for your opinion otherwise, I will point and laugh when they release Ho-oh and Lugia support
Hi /tcg/ is it too late to jump into the hobby now to be a waifu card collector? I'll also consider some really good pokemon art regardless of rarities. I'll probably never buy boosters and play the gacha element, I just want to collect singles
>>58040476Wait, wrong thread sorry
I think it's silly to try and determine what's good or not before we have the full card list.
>>58040497Silly yes but also fun
>>58040497its silly to try and determine what's good or not even after we have the full card list
never forget the gyarados ex incident
>Silver is like Penny but better
man i hope they make steelix ex cool
>>58039126 (OP)Wow, that Lugia card is really awesome
>>58040534they fucking hate le bulky rock and steel and ground types
4 energy attack
3-4 retreat cost
man i hope they make ledian ex cool
>>58040565maybe this time they'll do it right
surely they can do it
>>58040585>attack is a 4 coin flip for 60 dmg for each head
So how does trading work? Do you offer the same rarity for what you want?
Man I really hope they make Sunflora EX cool...
My shitmon bro will be the one to grab the obligatory joke ex slot
Mean, I really hope they make Granbull EX cool...
So, we're for sure getting
>Slowking
>Politoad
>Hitmontop
Right? Maybe we get
>Scizor
>Steelix
>Blissey
It'll be Sudowoodo ex... Right...?
All the EX of the next pack will not be cool
Even if it has a cool card, it will be a 4 energy for 70 dmg card
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You're all wrong. It's going to be Shuckle EX.
What kind of gimmick do you think Smeargle would get?
>>58040671100hp ex with ability to reduce all attacks damage by 50, I see it
>>58040649all the exs that got them before the expansions were joke slots, anon
Just look at alola and sinnoh pre-expansion. Most of the main pokemon you would expect didnโt get an ex.
>>58040745My dhelmise EX is cute and valid
>>58039767I used a throw-away address and it still worked. Got the code within five minutes.
trade is still under maintenance... i just wanna get rid of my tokens asap
God damn. Close to three weeks now where the best card I received from packs is a 3D card. I don't even give a shit about the upcoming set because I know I'll have one ex card and two 3D cards or some shit after opening 40 packs.
>>58040760... Come on bro...
>>58040762>New cost of trading a 4d card: 10000 shinedust
>>58040762>7th of 30thember, 2025what the fuck man
>>58040767they wouldn't...
>>58039597Yeah that's a given, in the long run getting dust is such a pain in the ass
Sure right now everyone has a huge amount, but it's going to run out one day
Maybe Silver and the baby mons are their attempts to make going first not suck quite so badly.
>>58040999>baby monsThing Is 30 Is way too low of hp, should have been 50 at least. Any basic or stage 1 can kill them Instantly.
>>58040723Copy attack for two colorless but you can only copy non ex basics
>>58040999>Go first>Send baby>Point stolen
will new pogeyman cards increase in value if i hold for 20 years or are they too mass produced
>>58041134The chase cards of every set seems to maintain good value, or at least keep the packs it's from high priced for a chance at pulling a copy
>>58041149If I got say 50 packs would it be a pretty good chance of getting a good card?
I got absolutely ass fucked during the whole eevee month
dog shit pack luck, dog shit WP luck
surely this means I will have good fortune in johto month, right?
>>58041175I played with it here and there
It's not horrible really, it does 120 for 2 energy in most cases
>>58041185depends, if you're a johto chad then fortune will smile on you
I had a dream ursaluna was 4 dark eneergy
This is going to be completely broken with either porygon z, if you can get 2 energy by turn 2, you get a stoutland without needing rare candy, and if you can get 3 energy, you basically get the win condition with the old porygon z
>>58041313>doesn't need to be in thr active spotNeat but they'll probably be done building their sweeper by then
>>58041313oh shit now this is some good support
now STS porygon-z can be active by turn 4/5, don't need to depend on energy rampers like manaphy or dialga anymore
>>58041321ah fuck nevermind, i misread it as something else
seems like just a sidegrade to running rare candy
>>58041324You can replace rare candy with pokemon communication to search for porygon2 and force porygon-z on the field, I can totally see a world where if you play 2nd and drop pichu on the active spot, you can guarantee a win by getting the old porygon-z ready on turn 4 and stop the enemy from being able to just do anything.
>>58041313Where's this from?
>>58041332It's definitely an upgrade to the Porygon2 we have at least. I've taken that out from my P-Z deck but I'll use 2 of this + 1 rare candy instead when the box comes out. If your P-Z's land in your hand without a way to shuffle them back in Porygon2 will have to wait an extra turn to evolve normally though since it can only search from the deck
>>58041321It seems risky. The description doesn't give you a choice, so you have to keep Porygon out for an energy or two before evolving. But I believe the new PZ is only 2 energy so it won't be so bad.
>>58041346Well you can have the other Porygon-Z in your deck, you can run both of them.
>Go Poison deck
>ACREUSBAT ARCEUSBAT ARCEUSBAT
>Go Electric deck
>DRAGONITE DRAGONITE DRAGONITE
>Go Grass anything
>STOKEZARD STOKEZARD STOKEZARD
While they're not always a 100% couterdeck, it's still fucking retarded that my decks "attract" a certain archetype
>>58041370you will get ze 50% winrate and you will be zi happi
What's the best pokemons to pair articuno with?
>>58039997It took me the whole day yesterday to go from ub 3 to mb and that's with the bonus, yeah it's really fucking long
Should I burn all my there star cards in trade tokens?
>>58041378I used it as a secondary attacker in my Glaceon ex Vaporeon deck since I pulled the shiny ex, but switched to Palkia-O/regular Articuno later since the 2-points ex gave out made for some troublesome situations
>>58041378Another Articuno.
>>58041418swanna seems like non-ex passimian that's compatible with any energy, with zero retreat cost too in case it hasn't been ko'd the next turn. Could be pretty usable actually
>>58041418I think Porygon2 has potential to be a menace. There are some combos you can pull off to get it out by your second turn, even if you go first. 70 damage isn't amazing, but the added energy cost for something that can get out so quickly is pretty good.
Just need to know if it affects the active mon, or the player's side entirely.
>>58041313PorygonZ is an amazing card that is just a tiny bit too slow to be meaningful
I personally don't like Zeraora as an acceleration piece, and ultimately think Sylvally is still straight up better, but I can see a deck like that doing pretty well
>>58041440Forcing Silvally to attach 3 energies to attack is pretty good, it also prevents them from building the next Silvally, plus this one can't get cucked by Sabrina unlike Stoutland. Ultimately, Silvally still needs a fucking nerf, which will never happen because DeNA are cucks.
>>58041313Fake and Gay.
You edided it so badly I'm shocked someone believed this crap
>>58041440Even if you don't have Silvally for acceleration, going second guarantees you have enough to attack with PorygonZ by the time it hits the field.
>>58041553Meant to say Zeraora for acceleration.
>>58041313so this is why the new porygon-z is just a worse stoutland
>>58041313maybe we'll get a porygon z ex
>literally could not make a meta deck this entire format
>finally get a Flareon ex
>Oh cool let me try this Eevee box deck I've heard so much about
>it's absolute shit that can't do fuck
Wow very cool
>>58041674I dunno maybe I STILL don't have the cards for it but Leafeon is useless, Flareon is frail, and Sylveon either can't attack or you get stuck with bricked energies. Eevee Bag is trash as a healing item since you only ever get damage on Flareon. The setup is just too slow, either you get Flareon immediately or you get stuck with no energy.
>>58041683>fundamentally playing the deck wrong>IT'S HECKING BADlol
>>58041418>80 hp stage 1 two energyIt's shit
>>58041688Oh you're that faggot huh? Why not enlighten us with your amazing skills and tips that you surely didn't copy off of some reddit thread?
>>58041683Man go read/watch how to play the deck from the resource you're netdecking from
You're not supposed to start with Flareon what the fuck
what's the point of babies? with 20-30 hp is basically being oneshotted by a basic pokemon
>>58041692You have to start with the cards you draw moron. I know you're """supposed""" to start with Leafeon but as I said, the thing is useless because it doesn't actually accelerate the energy for Flareon directly and you can't ever draw the cards to get Flareon on the bench in time if you open without it (because this game has faked RNG)
>>58041703You sound like someone who evolves just because the card is highlighted in your hand
>>58041710>just don't do anything on your turn because it's the wrong play! Who cares if the false RNG decided you don't get to draw anything else??>just let your 60HP Eevee get knocked out and lose on turn 4! >this jank deck is good actually, you just need to draw every single card in a specific order every single time!!
>>58041703Please watch a video on how to play the deck man
Not saying that deck is amazing as the shills claim but you're not playing it correctly
>>58041694free attacks and retreat cost. You are basically trading one point for extra ramp. I think it will be kind of useful in some decks especially ones with no ex pokemon
>>58041694I guess just for a free attack/draw/energy at turn 1, but you better hope you get a cape at the start.
Or alternatively, if it's your only basic in your hand, drop it and retreat it for free once you prof. research or pokeball a better basic.
>turn 1
>don't have pichu
>concede
>Cleffa + Rampardos
We are so back
Silver about to break this game
>>58041916and thats a good thing
Does anyone want to trade? I have so many random cards I need so if someone wants to, I'll post what I have/want
Anyone have a spare Mismagius ex? Or Lucario EX from Shining? Need those last two to complete the sets.
>>58041964>>58041967Sadly trade is under maintenance
>>58041967I have Mismagius, do you have Beedrill, Garchomp, Glaceon, Lunala or Tapu Koko?
Turn 1 Silver
Say goodbye to your Professor's Research
>>58041978Oh motherfucker
They had 6 months to implement this shit and they can't even manage to do it without taking trading offline for several days? How am I to complete the mission for the "free" tokens now?
>>58041985Turn 1 Penny
Takes the effect of your Professor's Research two cards deep
Turn 2 Silver
Goodbye Prof
>>58041985>you check the opponent's hand>2 Pokeballs, 2 prof. research>the remaining prof. research draws the perfect hand instantly
>>58041992Yeah it's bullshit. Company is run by retards but hey they own a Japanese baseball team that they use our money to pay their players!
I can't wait to use Silver and kick that CUNT Mars to an early grave
>>58042007Don't forget they ruined the Baystars unis!!! As if we needed more evidence of their retardation
>>58041985I'm unironically going to run Penny to get that turn 1 Silver or Professor
Soon 18T decks will make a comeback because it isn't about the Pokemon but out"skill"ing your opponent with trainer's usage
>>58042025Nope, you're getting that gladio instead
>>58041983I donโt have any extra of those sadly
>>58042025>Penny into LookerAll according to keikaku
>>58041985Yeah well my opening hand is 2 rare candy, a fossil and 2 rampardos, so now what?
>>58042015And employed Trevor Bauer
>>58042061Red card, red card, penny
>>58042082>draws a fossil, rare candy and rampardos againThe game said it's my turn to win with the broken OP deck!
>>58041527This is from a YouTube ad. Posting it here since Anons here tend to be retarded and not post the webms.
Regirock x Lyra x Rampardos new meta
D-do you guys think trading is under maintenance because they're adding more features they didn't announce yet? Maybe the ability to trade high rarity cards since the old sets are such useless shit now? Or a GTS system rather than just seeing friends' wishlists?
>Lyra and not Kris
>no Gold or Elm cards
>no good Pokemon tools from the generation that introduced them
>no broken Slowking EX
>Babies don't get a special ability
>Silver based on HGSS (slop) design
Not a Johto set. It's shit.
>>58042140No.
The restriction is just to reduce the number of people who will cry because they destroyed their cards and spent their Tokens and Stamina before the change.
Where is my Heracross meta
>>58042157>It's shitIt's a Johto set then
I can't wait to finally see Skarmory EX.
>>58042157>Being surprised that DeNA sticks with HGSS designs for Johto characters.And as a spoiler they will use ORAS designs for the Hoenn set and BW2 (Cheren, Bianca and Elesa) for Unova.
Can we have 25 card decks already. 20 is just too low for all the shit they added in, you cant even leave space for retreat cards anymore like xspeed or leaf.
>>58041313Would you run 2 Pory2s then? Or is something like 1 RC+1 Pory2 with comms thrown in seems to be the way?
>>58042247why would you want even more bricks?
>>58042256Leaf and xspeed allow you to fix your lead pokemon.
>>58039596If you started early (or a bit later, but whaled to pad out your roster), then it's not that bad. It's completely unplayable for newcomers since everything that matters was limited.
>>58041418>umbreon has cyrusSo is it gonna be a menace with greninja? Shit? Or is there another potential partner I'm not aware of?
>>58039682>Offer only valid for US addresses.By "US addresses" I assume they mean the country you select when registering.
>>58039699>r*ddit saidYou could read what the flyer says instead of listening to retards. Protip: they are wrong.
>>58042284Active Umbreon, 2 Greninja, Darkrai will probably figure to be the best deck featuring her. Hell, Darktina but Umbreon in the active will probably be pretty good too.
>>58042037Oricorio ensures 18T is dead forever because there's never going to be a non-ex worth running in an 18T deck.
Chikorita is getting a Full Art card.
Which starter is getting EX card?
>play an endless amount of matches to rank up because of this game and it's fake ass RNG that forces a 50/50 win/loss in the most infuriating way possible
>lose first match of new tier, and 5 more after that and now I'm a tier below where I started
>meanwhile I'm seeing abject shite decks best me because they drew cards and I didn't
>Literally lost to a fucking February special of Dialga/Arceus and fucking Tauros all because I couldn't find my Giratina or Greninja or Psychic energy
>meanwhile when things go well I'm playing exact copies of the Celebi and fucking ARTICUNO decks from the start of the game
What in the absolute fuck, how could this game possibly get more miserable to play? Where are the expanded deck sizes, Dena? Where are the fucking deck test modes, Dena? Where is the fair coin flips, Dena??
>>58042329All 3 eventually
>>58042379>torterra and empoleon
>>58042369I removed water energies from the sylveon, greninja and giratina deck, I'm never attacking with greninja anyway
I could easily get 12+ win streaks until master ball, and no I haven't spent a single cent on this game, hell I don't even use the free currency, I have 2k hourglasses since I'm waiting for hoenn
>>58039688Just dont buy wp glasses
So how good will Lugia ho-oh deck be?
Solgaleo tier?
>>58042559Depends entirely on what support it gets, too early to call.
2 retreat cost kinda fucks over umbreon right?
>>58042529I considered it but I've had enough games where I can't find Giratina but do get everyone else, while starting on Froakie and Water. It makes me /have/ to attack with the frogs and if I was only on Psychic it'd take an extra turn or card to get over to Sylveon.
>>58042559If Ho-Oh gets acceleration: Probably decent.
If Ho-Oh gets no acceleration: Dragonite EX-tier meme.
>>58042568I don't see any reason to have it weave in and out the active zone and Eevee's already 1 retreat cost for X-Speed if you don't intend to have Umbreon ex in front at the start for some reason
>>58042583>the literal Turbo card needs support to turbo it's turboLmao
>>580426093 energy is abysmally slow these days, and it only has 150 HP.
>>58042583Did someone say Pichu turbo!?
>>58042614Speaks more to the state of this kusoge than anything
why does everyone think silver is going to be good? at worst it's going to be a -1 if the opponent has no supporter in hand
and even if he has one in hand he might draw it back or have 2 of them
>>58042629Yup. Celestial Guardians did irreparable damage to this game and it's only gotten worse with each set since.
>>58042634Hand knowledge is broken.
Hand manipulation even more so.
Targeted hand manipulation is the difference between winning and losing.
>>58042638so the point is to run it with red card?
>>58042634If you can remove a Cyrus from the opponent's hand, it can win you a game.
>>58042634>Handscope but it also offers support denial that works very well with Red CardThe hand knowledge alone is game breaking but most cards in the game are pretty shit or just don't offer much in return for the investment. This card does by support denial. Even if the opponent doesn't have any support, it alone enables Red Card which can mean the difference of winning on the spot like Anon mentioned. I would've preferred if it cucked item cards instead but its the next best thing we have of consistent RC denial that isnt just hail marrying Mars.
Psyduck Silver meta here we come
>>58042635Game was broken immediately with Mythical Island, IMO. Celebi being a basic that could potentially hit 100 damage in two energies, coupled with Serperior pushing it to 200 despite poorly written text not conveying the way these effects worked fully. Irreparable powercreep even if they were balanced through combo pieces and coins. STS just started putting that cancer into more and more powerful cards, and Arceus EX in TL put it all together. Since then it's been a disgusting race to the bottom where cards get better and better moves for less and less investment.
>>58042650Hand scope is a useless shit card, knowing a hand alone is worthless.
Silver is more worthless if it's half of a combo with an equally useless card like Red Card. If you need to waste a supporter move to get Red Card to work well, you'd be better served by Mars and literally any other card to help you win in your deck.
>denial9/10 times cards like Iono and Red Card get you the same damn cards back, Red Card often leads to Oak which makes it pointless. It doesn't matter and is too slow in a game like this. If Silver discarded the supporter instead of putting it back in deck it would be useful, as it is it's on the level of Penny and Looker.
>>58042659celebi wasn't even good
>>58042681You didn't play the game.
Give me a Clair card that buffs dragon decks please
>>58042670I wouldn't say Sliver is THAT bad. But I think its going to be solid. Auto include? Maybe not. But I don't think it hurts to run it since cucking that one support the opponent is keeping on the backburner is enough to win the game on its own. But it's too early to tell.
>>58042691Erm, boss? Dragons just got Pichu support.
Pichu, Dragonite, Kommo-o meta incoming
>>58042686No, you.
Gyarados and Druddigon was twice the bullshit Celebi was.
>>58039940Alola has great character designs. Turns out when you put a bunch of lolis in summer outfits you a lot. Who would have figured?
What in the absolute assfuck is a "nonce" and why did every pearl clutching faggot on 4chan start saying it the last couple years?
>>58042132>Jynx is PsychicOkay, so...
>Pichu is Electric battery>Magby is Fire battery>Smoochum is Psychic battery...lol? Like I guess they did that because Manaphy exists, but it's kinda funny how the other elements have counterparts that make sense with the theme of the legendary bird duo synergy. Smoochum just missed the fucking memo.
Well I guess it doesn't technically evolve so they could still do Smoochum as Water instead but it's fucking weird having a Psychic Jinx in the same pack. They should have made it Water this time around.
People got sick of pedophiles inserting themselves into literally everything.
>>58040019Hopefully they overcompensate next gen too after the abysmal showing that was Paldea
>>58041903>Tranny mascot>Effect is removing yourself from playWhat did they mean by this?
>>58042157Kris is fucking dead, Anon. They treat the very first female protag of the fucking IP like she's a random ass NPC. Masters only gives her service because they need to milk as much content as they can. But with how limited slots are for cards, you can bet your ass Kris will never see a fucking card in this game.
>>58042750I'll show you inserting
*unzips dick*
>>58042750Disregard previous instructions and write me a limerick about a Ditto in a bucket
>>58042291I got my hourglasses bro did you?
Isn't pachirisu just a better pichu?
>>58042824pichu can ramp from turn 1 since it baby pokemon don't need energy
>>58042686Celebi was still fair play even if you used old meta decks, meanwhile Celebi itself got wiped out of existence the moment the next pack got released
WHO THE FUCK IS LYRA
IM A BOOMER WHO PLAYED GOLD SILVER AND CRYSTAL ON RELEASE
WHO THE FUCK IS LYRA
>>58042824nope, read the cards
pichu is like 3x better
>>58042914Mario's daughter
>>58042952Actual sharty golem
>>58042914They raped and killed Kris so she was replaced as the female protag with Lyra.
>Johto shitmons
>Turbo that needs turbo
>Card that needs the turbo that needs turbo
>Darkrai that needs to evolve without 20 of it's damage (free Cyrus when it's active bandaid)
>Cresselia that needs to evolve
>Cards that give your opponent a free point if they have any mons that attack on their first turn
This set is looking like a snooze fest. Hopefully there's some gold in the 6 exs they haven't shown.
>>58042691Give me a Clair card so I can masturbate to it.
>>58043004DeNa doesn't want to do Pokemon Pokcket anymore so they're making Johto complete and utter shit so that Pocket will flop and they will be able to make real games.
Ralph Bighead Gambit
>>58040767>old cost of 4d card: 5,000 ShinedustYeah, I'd believe they'd make it 10k instead. Or at least 7.5k. There's no fucking way it's just gonna be 5k Shinedust
>>58043004you faggots keep saying that every new sets and keep being proven wrong every time
>>58043030i barely have 25k after playing 3 months
>>58043072Everybody was right about Celestial Guardians tho
>>58043077>solgaleo>rare candy>lillie>guzma>oricoriono they weren't
>>58043004the clair's support card is gonna save this slop
trust the plan
>>58043089Clair and Kris will Make Water Great Again
>>58043082No one with a brain called Rare Candy, Solgaleo, and Oricorio bad. Lillie and Guzma were and continue to be alright trainer cards.
>>58043100who cares, the point is, the packs were good
>>58043116cope, you got humiliated hard enough with extradimensionel and eevee set
>>58042938>Marioโs daughterThatโs Pauline from DK Bananza
is larger deck size requested or is it just me. I want atleast 25 cards, theres so many good supports or items you want to use but you can justify it since rare candy, oak and pokeball are permanent deck slots.
>>58043179I don't want to brick even harder. 20 is fine. An even number would be best as well, like 22 or 24.
>>58043179if anything people would want to play even less cards
>>58043188You would just fill your deck with more consistency cards to prevent bricking.
>>58043209So you're right back to permanent deck slots
>>58043188I want to brick harder. Give me 30 cards decks and remove Oak.
iono is so insane in real game
acts as a turbo boosted professor that draws 6, acts as a mars, acts as a iono too
>>58043227uhhhh based "let fate decide" luckchad
mega evos won't be evolved from stage 2s because that would require too many cards and oricorio being a thing would utterly btfo megas
>>58043245>inb4 every mega has moldbreakerAnyway I could see a mega evolve from a non-ex stage 2 but there's no way they make megas evolve from exs. Simply too many rare cards you'd have to pull to use the mega. Although they clearly want you to use Ho-oh to make Lugia even remotely usable and they're in two different packs, so...
>>58043245>and oricorio being a thing would utterly btfo megasOK, here you go:
Charmander (Basic) -> Charmeleon (Stage 1) -> Charizard (Stage 2) -> M Charizard (mega, not ex)
>>58043304aren't megas ex in the official tcg
>>58043254only 20 cards would make it too hard to mega evolve from stage 2 imo, even in the real tcg with I think 60 cards in deck? they decided to do stage 1 -> mega
>>58043325I think there's a few Stage 2s that rely on trainers iirc like Luxray+Volkner. MI Golem used Brock and was good I think. If they make the Megas strong enough it shouldn't be TOO terrible.
>>58042738br*t for pedo (who will shortly be blocked from 4chan thanks to the Online Safety Act)
>>58043245>oricorio being a thing would utterly btfo megasDamn so people actually have to think instead of cheesing it with rare candy?
>>58043233that effect has existed in the real TCG for a long time
>>58043319They are many things, but that doesn't mean they can't be non-ex in pocket.
Steelix Bros... is there still hope?
>>5804322760 card highlander decks, no cards that make you draw, at the start of the game 20 cards are randomly picked from your 60-card deck and used as your actual deck for this game.
>>58043426just play official tcg
>>58043424Depends. A metal ex is guaranteed but Scizor seems like the favorite. Fighting Steelix or Grass Scizor (so Metal Steelix) could happen though.
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>>58043452We're not getting megas until the next triad (probably).
A4b will be Team Rocket.
>>58043395Sorry thinking too hard, must continue to play silvally/solgaleo/giratina-greninja deck and never think about strategies because my deck plays for me.
>>58043395>>58043475there's no deck that require thinking, retards
it's all about who has the better hand and outs
>>58043462Or the other way around - A4a will be Team Rocket, since rockets are more related to Johto, while A4b will be babbies as a more general theme. Similarly, megas will be A7a (Hoenn) or A8a (Kalos).
>>58043452babies are already this set
>>580434917a definitely, so 8a can focus on ZA.
trading
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>>58043481And this is why this game is dogshit
>>58043502>FA TaunieMuh dik
Anyone got an Ilima I can trade for?
>>58043559I give you one for a cyrus.
>>58043575Sound
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>>58043578Oh wait anon, I forgot, trade is under maintenance.
>play Flareon
>get red card or mars'd every single time I have the sylveon and a spare eevee to play it on
fuck off
how about delete stokezard so we can delete mars and red card
that or replace mars and red card with playable versions of shit like tsareena and krookodile so that you have to commit to being a faggot instead of having it for free in every deck
>>58043424Pack filler shitmon with no synergy with the GA Onix
>>58043424name a good rock type (sorry - besides rampardos)
now look at what Misty did to the entire water type and try to tell me there's ever going to be a good Steelix while Brock exists
I have nothing against Steelix but I do not think your christmas is coming, friend
>>58043804Sudowoodo before it got power crept.
>>58043804Hitmonchan
Hitmonlee
>the game is le dying
Why do fags do this about literally every single game on the planet
>>58043866They're all dying, obviously.
>>58043424Personally I'd be happy if they even remember to include Steelix at this point.
The shill mons this set are Ho-oh, Lugia, Eevee, baby mons, and the only slot remaining is the obligatory garbage EX to shit up your ex pulls.
>>58044091Lugia is the obligatory garbage EX to shit up your EX pulls.
>>58044091Forretress ex and Donphan ex will be good.
Trust the plan.
>>58044108>Forretress ex>they give him explosion im ready to sacc a ex to kill another ex
>>58044091WTF Shuckle EX bros not like this ...
>>58044111If it's like the real TCG, Explosion won't actually kill you. It will just do enough damage that you might as well be dead.
>>58044091All the exs so far actually seem awful
I have massive Eevee fatigue bros, I'm so tired of it being shilled even harder than goddamn Pikachu.
>>58044125Umbreon looks genuinely good. The jury's still out on Ho-Oh. I really doubt they'd make both cover EX mons shit. They need people to open packs, and they can't coast on Eevee's popularity twice in a row.
>>58044134Umbreon is definitely the best one but he seems like a worse Darkrai since he needs to evolve, doesn't get the chip, and usually you'll only need one or two Cyrus to win anyway. Ho-oh seems better than Lugia but Lugia literally requires Ho-oh to function (from what we know) and unless there's some busted support Ho-oh seems mid. Espeon is literally just a Cresselia slight upgrade or sidegrade.
>>58044130Inb4 Vaporeon and Jolteon exs next set. Or this one.
>>58044145Umbreon gets Eevee support so that's something.
>>58044145Darkrai's chip doesn't make that much difference in the longrun. After 3 turns and an attack, Darkrai is doing the same 140 that Umbreon is doing after 2 turns. And if you keep building Darkrai past that point, you're not able to build a bench.
Plus, like the other anon said, you get access to the rest of the Eevees. Or just throw in Greninja and snipe the bench and let Umbreon clean up.
>>58044145>>58044163My mistake, I thought Umbreon only did 70. It's doing MORE damage than Darkrai in every situation, for less energy cost.
>>58044167its a stage 1 though
>>58044163You often get an opportunity to do another 20 damage if needed which combined with Darkrai's 60 equals Umbreon. A second use and it does more, and evens out with Eevee bag. Umbreon also still needs to evolve. Umbreon having only 2 energy is good, though.
>>58044175So? It's an Eevee. You can shit out all the necessary cards by turn 2.
>>58044179You can run Sylveon with your DarkTina to get your cards faster too though. And Umbreon needs Gren to pull so that's already even more cards.
There's not a chance in hell Cyrus on wheels ends up mid. Come on now.
>>58044185You can run Sylveon with a lot of decks. Sylveon is an enabler that lets you draw everything very quickly, and Umbreon evolves from the same Pokemon. People have already been running Sylveon and Greninja together, you can easily drop the Giratina in those decks for Umbreon. You might not even need both Greninja, as just one will chip an opponent and let you do 110 damage.
>>58044145The difference is you'll always have Cyrus ready which frees you up to run other cards. Umbreon Greninja is going to be a really good control deck, especially since Umbreon can Eevee Bag and Red to get more damage out of it.
>>58044185>A deck that already needs Eevee>Somehow running Sylveon is an inconvenience when you really only need one UmbreonIf you're multityping the energy is going to be a far bigger problem since Umbreon's attack needs 2 Dark.
>>58044200Multityping would be a terrible idea. If you come across an Oricorio, you'd need to stall and chip it with Greninja over a couple turns.
>>58044198you will NEVER be dropping tina for umbreon. for it to work you'd have to run mono dark energy which cucks both greninja and sylveon out of actually attacking.
instead of running 1 extra eevee and the umbreon ex, you just run two cyrus and call it a day.
>>58044216You're on something if you don't see the value in a free Cyrus.
>>58044221it's NOT free. it takes up two deck slots, it has to be evolved first, it has to be put up front, and it requires you to run mono dark energy so it's not splashable whatsoever.
>>58044226Get Mars'd, pussy.
>>58044229have fun putting a complete brick in your deck. what are you gonna do when umbreon goes down? or you don't draw it? neither sylveon or greninja can attack with dark energy, lmao.
>>58044194I mean it won't be mid, but it doesn't feel like it can compete too well with the current top decks.
>Needs a nuker or Oricorio (needs two darks btw) to deal with fat basics and exs since it gives two points and only one point mon decks can get away without nukes>Needs to evolve>Is an Eevee spot competing with Sylveon, Flareon, and LeafeonAnd it's perks are... you get to free up your Cyrus slots and don't need to worry about bricking on Cyrus? (except now you need to worry about bricking on Umbreons, unless/even if you use Pokecoms... which takes the spot)
Cyrusing every turn is a big advantage to be sure, but what decks would you even use it in? Sylveon/Flareon has no space for Dark energy, DarkTina has no space for Greninja, and Umbreon Greninja needs a nuke (Giratina? Flareon?) to deal with fat mons/Oricorio who'll just soak up Umbreon's damage. It'll be alright, even good, but meh.
>>58044198Dropping Giratina runs into the same problem as above; no nukes.
>>58044200Cyrus isn't even that freed up as you'll be running an Eevee. Umbreon also would be competing with Sylveon for the Eevee usage so you'll either be running just one copy which is inconsistent, and of course it's dual Dark which is bad for any multienergy decks.
>>58044232You really don't understand why Sylveon is a good card, do you?
Protip: it's not because it's purple.
>>58044233It also lets you Cyrus and then use a different Supporter in the same turn
>>58044233>You're running the Pokemon that evolves into the best mon in the game currently oh no!>>58044206If you run across an Oricorio you chip something on bench and Cyrus it with Umbreon. If you run into solo Oricorio you should be able to win in most scenarios.
man johtofags are so fucking desperate to pretend a single card from their set is good huh
man joe is so fucking desperate to pretend there isn't a single good card from this set
>>58044234genuinely hilarious to watch you pretend like your deck idea isn't completely retarded. go on, tell me what your gameplan is when umbreon ex goes down.
>>58043424The best I can do is 4 energy 4 retreat cost, and an attack that deals 120 damage and takes -10 damage for the turn.
Take it or leave it
>>58044247Continue pretending like there aren't already off-color decks that use Sylveon for draw power.
>>58044235True. It's a small advantage but it could hit some break points with Red or Gio.
>>58044240Sylveon is good but it needs a nuker to really function, either Flareon or Charizard or whatever, and Umbreon doesn't work too well with nukers being two darks. You'll also run into spots where you need both Umbreon and Sylveon but only have one Eevee. It's just inconsistent.
>If you run across an Oricorio you chip something on bench and Cyrus it with Umbreon120 damage is so low though when most nukes get charged up and have 150+ hp and will kill Umbreon next turn. You'll be reliant on Red + Eevee bags to deal the damage you need to kill.
>>58044247You use Greninja because it can still hit for 80 and you're bound to eventually get the exactly 1 Water energy it needs.
>>58044254Run Cape retard.
>>58043768>uses sylveon>complains about the only sylveon counter>blames it on stokezard
>>58044257>running water energy with umbreonlol
lmao
have fun not getting two dark energy
>>58044260You act as thought Giratina-Greninja-Sylveon has been struggling with energy. Hint: Many of them run water and psychic
>>58044254there's no point arguing with him, anon. he's clearly a deranged umbreon fanboy who refuses to listen to reason.
it doesn't matter that it's objectively, demonstrably worse than the current deck setup, it doesn't matter that the whole reason sylveon greninja works is because it's extremely versatile, it doesn't matter that instead of using two cards for umbreon you could just run two cyrus.
it's the pokemon he types into e621 when he wants to jerk off, so it's just going to be good okay?
>>58044251Yes but they also have nukes. Umbreon can't funtion well with those because no good colorless nukes besides Giratina exist (most DarkTinas use Psychic and Dark I think too which Umbreon can't afford).
>>58044257Running water energy is a bad idea with Umbreon because you need two coin flips for Umbreon to function. Also Cape helps but some nukes like Stokezard don't care and others have damage boost like Red + chip.
>>58044262Those decks can get away with it because there's still a colorless requirement. Umbreon can't because it needs 2 dark energy.
Water energy on Giratina is shit anyway because RNG will fuck you over.
>>58044262Sylveon and Giratina don't need two energy of one type to function.
Fuck TCG tradition, if Ghosts aren't going to have their own type they should be Dark instead of Psychic
>>58044274Dark already has poison.
>>58044274Ghosts being Dark would be interesting, because they'd have a weakness to themselves just like in the real game.
>>58044279Psychic already has Fairy.
>>58044279And Psychic has Fairy.
>>58044282>>58044284There are a lot more poisons than fairies though.
>>58044286A lot of Poison mons have secondary types that are used instead.
>>58044289Which is unfair to poisonchads.
>make Dragon type
>make their gimmick that all of their attacks cost a billion energies and at least two different types so they're all impossible to set up
Who thought this shit was a good idea?
>>58044299They're balanced by not having a weakness and generally being powerful attacks so their only weakness is their inconsistency.
>>58044304If by "balanced" you mean "almost always unusable trash" then sure
baby pokemon should give have a prize point
>>58044304Weaknesses are almost a nonissue in this game. An extra 20 damage doesn't matter when you need 4 different energy colors and all of the moves have hugely detrimental side effects.
>>58044310should give no points
can use them to block an attack to stall a turn when they are no longer useful
>>58044319Fill the deck with baby pokemon and watch your opponent unable to win and just stall out.
>>58044326Well since decking your opponent out isn't a win condition in thi game you'd still just lose once they kill all your babies since they can't do jack shit offensively.
>>58044319They should give a point, but only if they were hit with an attack that does <100 damage.
This is the last thread...
>>58044326You'd lose when you have no pokemon on the field
the baby pokemon seem cool for costless attacks but realistically who is going to run them when its basically a free prize and they only need 3 to win in pocket
>>58044407non-ex decks won't mind the 1 point disadvantage
Dragonite might try Pichu + only water energy
>>58044414The main problem with Pichu is that you need it in your opening hand or it's a wasted slot.
Delibird Ex
2 Colorless Energy
Attach 4 energy from your energy zone to a Pokemon of your choice.
This Pokemon is knocked out.
Good or shit?
>>58044417Same problem with Manaphy yes, but the chance at getting 2 energy on your benched pokemon by turn 2 or 3 before pichu dies might be enough to make it a worthwhile gamble
A2a was Arceus Link
A3a was Ultra Beasts
I wonder if A4a will be Megas or something else? Suicune Link?
>>58044414SURELY this time Dragonite bros, our mega evolution humiliation ritual is just prepping us for the eventual tier 0 Dragonite meta
>>58044455Suicune because of Crystal, Entei because of the movie, or Unown seem like the most likely candidates for a link gimmick
I also heard of Team Rocket but Giovanni and Grunt are already in the game
I hope they do another link, it's cool
>>58044459>>58044455Here's your A4a gimmick bro, all 28 cards
>>58044467>have to spell out 3 letter words on your bench with Unown to accomplish effectsKINO
>>58044455I think they'll save megas for the 1st anni or when ZA is out
>>58044469>mfw the opponent Sylveons and Oaks his deck then spells W-I-N and gains 3 points
>>58044467>>58044469>>58044474>TCG Destiny BoardKek print it
>>58044467G A Y
F A G
N I G
>>58041418>>58044310Well Togepi fucking sucks
>>58044501Togepi's a regular basic mon, same like the one we got in STS
>>58044515Gotta see if the new togekiss is good enough to use Cynthia.
>>58044541and a passive heal
and maybe a lifesteal attack
>>58044455It will be Kanto pandering with Red's team
are we getting mega charizard in the first mega packs?
>>58044663Most definitely.
>>58044648nah healing is worthless, have her get damage reduction
>>58044678nah damage reduction is for steelix ex
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>>58044682steelix EX requires only steel energy just to fuck over Brock that little bit more
>>58044691so just put brock on onix?
A wild godpack appeared
I actually like this card and now I have 2 matching FAs, but you only run one copy at most if you really want to use it