It's anybody else depressed over being unable to enjoy pokemon anymore? It's common to bitch and scream over the "state" of pokemon but instead I feel down. I wanna play a new pokemon games but all my official options have shitloads of problems I can't ignore, I wish I was able to mindless enjoy pokemon again.

>>58041794 (OP)
i think if you disengage with the "fanbase", you'll have more fun. i haven't played pokemon since the fourth generation and just decided to get back into it. as with anything, the more time you spend in a fandom (let alone fucking 4chan, although there's precious few other places to talk about shit these days), the more you'll find your opinions and thoughts about the thing you like just orbiting around negativity. if you're a massive sicko, then i guess romhacks?

play fangames, just be sure to play the good ones and not the ones made by trannies or ESLs

>>58041812
The thing about fangames is that I can only play them on PC and for me that is not "comfy".

>>58041810
>I think if you disengage with the "fanbase", you'll have more fun.
Fucking this
My 2 nephews noticed my pokewalker the other day and asked me about it, before I knew it I gave them my extra Violet copy and they are having a blast
Yes, they are enjoying fucking Violet it really felt like the pokemania days in a way

>>58041829
You nephews must very young to be able to enjoy fucking SV without noticing its problems. I have proof that even if you are completely off from the pokemon "fanbase", you still can get down from the state of the games, my cousin is young and free of the fanbase influence, he enjoyed SV but he admits that he can't ignore the shitty graphics, the terrible perfomance, how ugly the human models look and how the customization is pure shit, he enjoyed it but he won't give them a free pass on their bullshit.

>>58041794 (OP)
I’m in a weird situation in which I prefer the direction the mainline series is going in terms of gameplay and story, but not so much when it comes to Pokemon designs. I’ve felt this quite strongly in Gen 5, 7, and 9.

I used to heavily engage in this fandom too, almost exclusively, but I just couldn’t be arsed to post on forums or on this board during hiatuses like I did before. I can tell I used to be much happier with the series back then, and much more tolerant of what I didn’t agree with.

>>58041794 (OP)
I just replay the older games, I know that the newer games aren't for me. Also I don't have a switch, lel

>>58041829
>Yes, they are enjoying fucking Violet
They literally havent played anything better. Give them Fortnite and watch them completely forget "pokerman" in a week

>>58041794 (OP)
No. I love Pokémon. Fucking move on if you don't like it anymore. Find a new passion instead of dwelling in the past and being a sad sack of shit.

>>58041794 (OP)
If you've played a variety of games throughout your life, this will be you. Doesnt even matter the series. Once you play enough games you see pretty much all there is to see. Film critics go through this with film too. Only tunnel vision retards end up like >>58042103 happy with any slop his favorite corporation feeds him. What we call, a "tendie"

>>58041849
>yeah every time I mention SV my cousin goes on a massive rant about all the things he hates about them so I'm just going to agree with him to get him to shut up
It's hard to believe your cousin has such strong and specific opinions on videogames while being that young.

>>58042119
Where did I say that I like anything that TPC or GF makes? Fuck off retard.

>>58042158
He doesn't complain per say, he just says "yeah, this part sucks" when asked and continues to enjoy himself. My point is that, while he is not blind to Pokemon's bullshit, he still can find joy in playing modern pokemon games, I CAN'T.

>>58042217
>I CAN'T.
That's honestly sad. I'm a jaded as fuck boomer but I still enjoyed SV.

>>58042119
>been playing games since I was three
>now 35
>enjoyed all kinds of genres and systems
Sounds like the problem is more a matter of perspective. If a passion for something is low then you gotta examine why you're struggling with it. From there you can figure out how to renew that passion if you feel inclined.

>>58041794 (OP)
I'd say examine the specific moments that bring your mood down. Is it something that happens in the moment of playing? Is it something that you think about when not playing that kills your urge to play? Is there a certain aspect that thinking about that fills you with dread? Is your bad mood because you want to play but you don't think you'll enjoy it (or don't want to give nintendo money) so you never actually do?

>>58042262
Is just things current games do I hate, it started with USUM ruining Lusamine, cucking Kukui from his big moment and the retard blue people being fucking nothing which made me skip it. Then SWSH with the dexit, then BDSP being the worst remake ever and then SV being ugly and shitty. I did enjoy PLA...which made Z-A not being set in the past and using SV ugly "style" for human characters 3D models instead of the much prettier style PLA used a complete killer moment for me, fuck Z-A, I was really looking forward for it.

>>58042217
>He doesn't complain per say, he just says "yeah, this part sucks" when asked and continues to enjoy himself.
Hey, I wanna try and say this in good faith because I don't think you're actively trying to be negative. But the way you put it makes it sound like you're asking him loaded questions.

>>58042202
>Where did I say that I like anything that TPC or GF makes?
>>58042103
>I love Pokemon.
Truly a mystery

>>58042273
I'll never understand caring this much about graphics
Like yeah sure it objectively doesn't look great but whatever, I stop caring about it if the game is fun

>>58042308
Graphics is not the problem, is the artstyle, look at PLA, from a graphics point of view is terrible but it has an artstyle that look good, SV doesn't have that, the colors are dull and the human characters have this weird "plastic" effect on them, not helped by SV having some of the most ugly NPCs and the worst default clothes that is forced into 80% of the characters.

>>58042316
Eh I count that as graphics
I dunno man, I just can't be arsed to care
If anything PLA graphics annoyed me more because of how utterly DOGSHIT the water looked, that shit was straight up eye rape

>>58041794 (OP)
New Pokemon games always give me something to look forward to. Sure, I don't always love every iteration, but I always enjoy going through each game and seeing what they decide to change/improve/regress on. If you can't enjoy it anymore, move on and maybe come back later and see if things improve. You're probably just burnt out.

>>58041794 (OP)
>but all my official options have shitloads of problems I can't ignore,
skill issue

>>58041849
>the shitty graphics
Who cares

>the terrible perfomance
I never noticed it. Switch 2 makes it perma-60 FPS and I definitely noticed that and it felt weird at first, but then I got used to it and didn't notice it anymore.

>how ugly the human models look
I do not care.

>and how the customization is pure shit
Half of the Pokemon games I play have ZERO customization. It is an incredibly minor thing.

Most of this is just graphicsfaggotry. You don't like Pokemon and I doubt you ever did.

>>58042273
This isn't mean to be dismissive, just commentative. But it sounds like you're really getting negative about specific things and really letting a few things ruin the whole experience for you. And hey, you feel how you feel about stuff. But try examining why those specific things make you upset on a deeper level. Maybe there is a trend among them that you can think on and try to find a solution from there.

>>58042375
well aren't you a good little shit eater

>>58042662
and you're a jaded unlikeable fuck

>>58041794 (OP)
Yes and no. Sometimes I wonder what happened why I can't enjoy playing Pokemon (or video games in general) as I used to, but I think it's mostly because of me getting older.

>>58042671
Not so much jaded as I simply happen to play other games and I'm not an emotionally stunted manchild so I'm able to see GF's laziness and utter incompetence when it comes to making video games.

>>58042692
>and I'm not an emotionally stunted manchild
yet you're still here
fucking idiot

>>58042702
But I'm not throwing a tantrum because anonymous users on the internet are badmouthing my all time favorite franchise.

>>58042712
no instead you're throwing a tantrum because anonymous users on the internet AREN'T badmouthing the franchise

Why are you still here if you don't like Pokémon anymore? I don't get it. What's the point?
I stopped enjoying Pokémon after USUM was announced because I thought it was ridiculous, so I also stopped posting on /vp/. Then SV came out and I bought it mostly cause my friends got it and I had social FOMO, but actually enjoyed it quite a lot, to my own surprise. So I started posting on /vp/ again.

>>58042752
Because I still like pokemon...but the way GF does games now suck. Imagine there was an ice cream you really like and then one day the "flavor changed", is still presented as the same ice cream made by the same people but it doesn't have the taste you loved and you despair trying to taste that flavor again, that is how I feel with pokemon. So in the end the problem for me is fucking Gamefreak and TPC, the former cannot take pokemon to the hights it deserves and the latter doesn't help by forcing bullshit time devs, I want Pokemon to be made by devs that can actually program in 3D, optimize and with a nom insanely short dev time.

>>58042775
Anon, you'll never get through to these spergs. They're too far into the spectrum to understand simple analogies.

I feel largely indifferent to the slop that's coming out, but I still enjoy romhacks and certain extended media

>>58042775
>Food analogy

>>58042803
Ok, I will put it this way: I still like pokemon but I feel that the whole IP is wasted on GF's lame ass 3D programming skills and TPC's greed, I wish better devs with more time had the IP.

>>58042813
Perfectly acceptable opinion

>>58042820
Also I will forever cursed how GF refuses to ask Monolith Soft for help.
>They helped in PLA
It was just one of thier devs and the help wasn't big enough to justify having Monolith Soft logo in the credits like in Splatoon.

>>58042775
Anon, you're just describing "I used to like Pokémon but I don't anymore". You want something that doesn't exist anymore. You're chasing windmills. Do you really not realize?

>>58042842
Monolith developing a Pokemon game would be an interesting development, that's for sure. Gamefreak seems to have this weird pride about being the only ones to develop the mainline franchise, but also are sick of doing it and want to do anything else, hence the Legends subseries taking a different approach from the classic turn-based system the games have always had.

The samurai game they're developing actually looks good, but the performance is still shit, so it's like they're clinging to power despite being held back by it. And it's a stark difference from Little Town Hero, which had the dumbest fucking mechanics possible in a video game. I wonder what changed since then, and I hope Gamefreak's side experiments translate to better mechanics for future Pokemon games, if TPC won't let other developers touch the franchise too.

>>58041794 (OP)
This is a pokemon message board, not a therapy session.

>>58042865
The samurai game will flop, they are trying to get into the soul games market when is fucking overflow.

>>58042890
I'll play it if it's even moderately good, I like Souls games but a lot of developers fuck up when making a Soulslike action game. Lies of P was a good Soulslike and that was both pretty popular and sold well, so if Gamefreak can manage something like that I'll check it out too.

>>58042896
I heard the samurai game won't have any dialogue.

>>58042904
I don't mind as long as the gameplay is good.

>>58042904
I mean Souls games have dialogue but they might as well not with how it's basically just incomprehensible schizo babble.

>>58041794 (OP)
I'm in the exact same boat but what helps me is to simply be optimistic. Everyone on the internet says that's precisely what you're not supposed to do but it's fun to get on the hype train after every couple of years for the upcoming new gen in the hopes that you'd see something, anything, that reignites your interest in modern Pokémon whether it be a new art style, a good new selection of mons, any of your older favorite mons getting a new form, or story because life is unpredictable and anything is possible.

Maybe Palworld put enough of a fire under their asses for them to try to earn their reputation as the one of the most successful franchises on earth. Maybe, there's some people on the inside that are fully aware that the games are not living up to their potential and want to do something about it. Maybe we'll enter a new golden era of Pokémon because in the same way that things can't remain good or even exist forever, things can't stay shit forever either. Maybe, just maybe, the teraleak was an inside job and/or publicity stunt meant to get people talking about Pokemon again that happened just so conveniently before gen 10. Sure, it sucks when you don't see anything that grabs you but if you always approach it with low expectations than you're ironically setting yourself up for more disappointment than less.

>>58042974
All Palworld did was making TPC use every single agressive abuse of japanese law possible instead of just making better games.

>>58042974
>any of your older favorite mons getting a new form
I fucking hate mega dragonite.

>>58042974
>be optimistic
Nintendo would rather do everything in its power to KILL their only rivals than be forced to do better. Even if it would cause video game crash levels of copyright precedent, then EVER let Pokemon be reasonably challenged.
Nintendo will become the new Disney. They unironically said they have other "methods of engagement" for their IPs. They don't care about video games anymore. Sword/shield was the fanbase last chance to show them to do better. And it sold better than GOLD AND SILVER.
Pokemon will not get better. Nintendrones will make sure video games will no longer be needed for making money.