Thread 58502574

>Aides Lysandre in almost killing millions
>Is for some reason given a plea deal that not only gives her freedom, but also places her in a significant role in one of the most important projects in Kalos history

>>58502574 (OP)
a real Wernher von Braun

Kalos following America’s example with nazi scientists, nice

You know what a plea deal ie, right? It's for snitching organization secrets so prosecutors can put everyone else away for much longer in exchange for an extremely lightened sentence. Mabel is 'free', which means the rest of Team Flare isn't. And even then she's still not free, she's under house arrest st the lab and has to deal with government bureaucracy, doing police-ordered work, without a say in the matter.

She can't leave Lumonoise though.

>>58502574 (OP)
Anon...

>>58502574 (OP)
do they not teach the zoomers about operation paperclip?

>>58502618
Neither can you.
>game guilt-trips you multiple times if you attempt to leave
>berates you if you keep trying and trolls you by making it all just a dream
Lumiose is purgatory.

I still want to meet Mabel at a bar and date her.

>>58502637
That's just a gameplay thing though with a gag for breaking it.

>>58502639
There's no bars in Lumiose. You get cafes instead.

>>58502637
It's a game bro you can't leave because they didn't make anything to leave to

>>58502650
As long as we can have a nice conversation and cuddle.

>freedom
She's stuck in Lumiose anon. And much like any other restricted-freedom releasee, she's still very much a prisoner (she talks about "they" keeping a constant watch on her, likely the authorities who gave her the deal). Unable to go where she wishes, unable to change career (part of her deal was investigating the events in Lumiose). I'd like her to show up in Gen 10 - free, tanned and happy, having made peace with her past and finding redemption in the eyes of the public.

>>58502690
>Maple serves her alternate sentence and goes free
>Lysandre just doesn't get punished by law at all because he promised he'll be nice from now on :)
>fuck the other three scientists, Xerosic and Malva though, may they rot in jail for decades

>>58502712
lysandre is presumably not punished because he got amnesia'd and he's zygarde's bitch now

>>58502730
Kill someone and claim you don't remember anything, see if that saves you from prosecution.

I refuse to believe my beloved Malva is in jail

>>58502574 (OP)
Just how it happened in the US, then?

>>58502574 (OP)
operation paperclip

Mable was just one of the scientists. Even though the Scientists are named, their actual rank in Team Flare is lower than the nameless Admins (which was also Malva's rank).

>>58502574 (OP)
Just like real Nazi scientists!

Nazi's aren't real

>>58502574 (OP)
She is under house arrest, she literally can't leave Luminose and she has to work for Kalos.

>>58502736
i think the bigger point is that zygarde claimed him dude
you don't just go and piss off zygarde

>>58502736
I mean, there is a precedent...

>>58502712
Lysandre is "legally" dead, the authorities doesn't know some random hobo is him. Also he got amnesia, is blind in an eye, was age up to old crook instantly, lost literally EVERYTHING and now has at least 3000 years of life ahead of him which really sucks for someone that is not Volo.

>>58502830
Emma knows it's him, she should alert the authorities as a detective.

>>58502612
This is basically what Penny got except she didn't know how fucked she was until Geeta showed how horrible is work to her.

>>58502611
To be fair, some people are just too "useful" to be wasted away in prison or capital punishment...

>>58502574 (OP)
Keep crying about it.

>project paperclip
Weren't those nazi scientists building rockets and stuff for the government? Mable's job is to talk to kids and give them Pokemon... it seems a bit different?

>>58502830
considering there are now three known people who are long lived people, I hope pokemon actually starts exploring this phenomenon. It won't because gamefreak doesn't care about real world building, but it would be neat

>>58502971
She also makes you battle a thousand trainers for shits and giggles.

>>58502830
>>58502979
Are we sure Volo is immortal/long-lived? What could've caused it, would Arceus even have such power? I feel like he may have time-traveled from past to present instead since Ingo eventually did and maybe the Arceus MC.

>>58502979
2, one just died.

>>58502844
Emma's relationship with Ex-Team Flare dudes is basically this though, you've all seen the framed picture at the agency.
She even vouches for Lysandre having changed his ways.

>>58502999
Xerosic is the reason why Emma runs around in a skintight suit with her ass in full display so he's based in my book.

>>58502574 (OP)
she's not free, she's effectively confined to the lab where she has to do endless tedious research analysis for the mayor who decided letting letting wild pokemon into the city was good idea

>>58502574 (OP)
>Old Professor wants to retire, likely because his best friend tried to kill most of the country with magic ancient poke nukes
>No other legitimate Pokemon professor wants to come to fucking KALOS [who would]
>Have a bunch of former terrorists in prison
>Can't use the lead scientist because he's too well known and tangled up with Interpol and weird pedophillia charges
>But realize there are 4 semi competent young women to choose from

100% all 4 of them were offered the deal at the same time with really shitty terms because they just needed a body for the chair. Nothing says cheap and cost effective labor like slave labor and if Mable ever misbehaves she's aware they could just pull one of the other 3 out to replace her

>>58503088
They picked Mable for the deal because her name is the closest to sounding like a tree which is a necessity for Pokémon professors.

>>58502574 (OP)
the perks of sex appeal

>>58503100
They "picked" her, because she was designed and designated to be TF's pokémon "professor" studying pokémon energy and had created her as a foil almost to Sycamore. So when they decided to replace Sycamore (people ignoring how he was causally friends with Pokémon Hitler right up until he fired the Ultimate Weapon, small wonder he's gone - either removed from his office or resigned in shame for failing to see the danger), they had a ready-made replacement.

>>58503088
According to the Teraleak bios, Mable was actually the best of the Flare scientists for the job. She's a Pokemon biologist, unlike the others. She was probably given a deal because of that.

>>58503147
Why does everyone assume he resigned out of shame or something? He has already accepted the fact that he didn't see the danger in XY and was deeply remorseful for it. In addition, ZA says he's out of the region researching stuff with Trevor. He's not a Punished Demon.

>>58502574 (OP)
What happened with Sycamore? Also feet >>58502610

>>58503182
Not to mention Mable is called acting director meaning Sycamore is still the director of the lab.

It’s just nice to see Pokemon have some edge to it for once, it reminds me of a fangame thread (sadly never got off the ground) that I read many years ago where the ‘Professor’ (ironically named maple) was a drunk who had been sacked from his job and the mc was just a normal working class kid who met him by chance and got his starter. Everything else is mostly played straight though and the story actually seemed to fit in established Pokemon canon, it definitely activated something in my brain.

The idea of Mable is very interesting though, I kinda picture here as your classic un-empathetic scientist who got hopped up on Lysandre’s epic dark enlightenment crusade to kill the undesirables. She obviously only ‘changed’ because everything came crashing down but it’s still cute to see it, also I love how bitchy all the Flare women are, I never cared for Kalos much but now I want an ex-Flare gf

>>58502574 (OP)
Happens in the real world all the time.
Look at operation Paperclip and Osoaviakhim. Also women tend to get lighter sentences

>>58503014
Dangerous pokemon inside your city will start growing on you after realizing it is based on thing
https://www.politico.eu/article/paris-learn-live-rats-mayor-anne-hidalgo/

>>58502995
i wasn't referring only to living ones, just three who have had a long life. but >>58502991
is right, it was presumptious of me to think Volo is long-lived and not just possibly in the present for some other reason.

>>58503182
Because Pokémon is a Japanese property and generally when some major scandal erupts at Japanese companies, the people involved resign in shame and if it's big and bad enough, the CEO's and top-level management do the same. Ergo, Scyamore fucking off because Pokémon Hitler ran his plans under his nose and almost devastated Kalos seems right in line with "a serious, pervasive scandal at the company, which forced the CEO to resign".

>>58502574 (OP)
Plea deal? Shes a genocidal terrorist not some armed robber, what in the fuck?

>>58503712
>but she supports... le genocide!
and so did the nazi scientists the USA poached after germany fell in WW2, what's your point?

>>58503732
Global genocide not the Holomeme

>>58502574 (OP)
>Aides Lysandre in almost killing millions
Of my sperm

>>58503693
>in japan-
I'm only really concerned with what happens in the context of X, Y, and Z-A. While it's good to keep real life parallels in mind, they're not the end all be all, especially when the games outright contradict that theory.
>>58503763
You were jerking off to Lysandre, anon? That's so based...

>>58503779
Or she's acting director, as she's not a fully-qualified Pokémon Professor and is serving a prison sentence. 5 years is a lot of time to dodge the question of "why did you not see your bestie was about to go all genocidal?" you know.

>>58502999
she might as well have a picture of hitler hanging on her wall

>>58502574 (OP)
she's incredibly sexo so it;s fine.

Super realistic, actually.
Just look up what happened to nazi scientists.

>>58504029
He answers that question openly and honestly in XY. He admits that he saw it coming but he didn't think Lysandre would go to such lengths, and sincerely hoped he'd put aside his illusions of grandeur and make real positive change. He's also the one who organizes the parade explicitly to celebrate the player for overcoming Team Flare and entrusts them a medal for saving everyone. Additionally, he did act when Lysandre announced his attentions: Dexio and Sina confirm that they're there(at Lysandre Labs) at his request, and that he's contacting associates to help handle the situation. I'm not sure what else is expected of him.

>>58503191
Am NPC says he and Trevor are doing research in some other region IIRC

>>58502637
>Lumiose is purgatory.
The protag dies in a freak train crash at the beginning of the game

>>58502637
>Neither can you
Really makes you think

>>58502637
Weren't we supposed to be here on vacation? Where were we going to stay before getting dragged off to hotel Z?

>>58504336
South Kalos

>>58504336
No? the whole narrative is Harmony/Paxton come to Kalos and this city in particular to start a new life, the bag they carry with them is all they have to their name, think of Lumiose like New York or L.A. or Maimi, tons of young people come there to try and live a dream and either find success or wind up in a Bangbros video Lida is the same way, she came here to chase her dream of catching up and maybe surpassing her brother's talent, by the way i looked through my copy ofX and not once does it imply or say anything that Tierno has a little sister. Make of that what you will

>>58503147
It's weird to see how excited she once was and how now she's just a glorified slave answering to idiots and having to help children.

>>58502574 (OP)
>yes our game has no interiors and garbage textures but at least we have whores

>>58503147
My favorite was Bryony

>>58505127
>Harmony/Paxton come to Kalos and this city in particular to start a new life
>Get their bag stolen
>One of their "friends" stuck him with a debt, first day in town
>Forced into helping the yakuza
>Surrounded by ex-cons ready to turn hill, or nepo-babies that get their way thanks to money and influences
>Literally forced to save the city by destroying the central tower by using a nuke
>Everyone wants their head because they became the Head Honcho in the city BR

Yeah, is there a thing called "Lumiose Syndrome"? Because all of this happened, massive quantity of foreigners, crappy food, and poképoop smell not mentioned.

>>58505127
the player early on is consistently referred to as a tourist

>>58505177
There's plenty of interiors you disingenuous transgender freak

>>58502574 (OP)
> the whole Looker’s quest happened
> he bought her the entire building
> he asked both Emma and the MC to keep the city peaceful
> the MC is nowhere to be seen aside from that one single art in the museum
Inconsistent GF being inconsistent

>>58505231
Red is the only protagonist allowed to appear because he was introduced before gender options

>>58502574 (OP)
To be frank, we don't really know how much Team Flare scientists knew... with exception of Xerosic, who was fully aware and supportive about nuking Kalos.
She could get the same treatment as any other minor member of evil organization - beaten up by a kid and left to rethink her life.

>>58502574 (OP)
> scammed his followers for money in promise of salvation, which was the falshy uniforms being a fire resistant so they won’t die from the canon
> turned out it was bullshit because he was willing to sacrifice all
> when it failed, he decided to do ISIS and kill everyone in the vicinity including the MC
> destroyed a town in the process
> “Ooooooh yeah I know MZ , he will pay for his own sins”
LOOK WHO THE FUCK IS TALKING
He absolutely have no right to wave his finger at others while he himself was a retarded scumbag
And if you considered the manga as canon - which several NPCs implied so - he was far far worse in there. Like sit the fuck dow

>>58505241
Literally just ask the player if the previous MC was a boy or a girl like most games that do this.

>>58502856
Penny's internship isn't a plea deal, that was her sentence for stealing LP from the Pokemon League servers to pay the protagonist. And her taking the blame for Operation Star isn't a plea deal either, the former director sent her back to her family in Galar for her own mental health (it was totally a punishment cause the academy's staff back then were corrupt as hell).

>>58502991
Cogita is long-lived and she's his teacher, relative and possibly fuck-buddy. He's claimed to Rei that he'll definitely claim Arceus even if it takes him centuries, implying that he could live that long. With the hiker in Pokemon Platinum and the museum in Pokemon ZA, it's all but confirmed that he's still around in the modern day.
There is still a possibility that Arceus sent him to the future via a time distortion but it's likelier that Volo just persisted over 140+ years.

>>58503231
If you want edge then read Pokespe's XY arc. I know "edgeventures" is a meme, but the XY arc is downright homicidal. Team Flare has informants all throughout the region, Xerneas and Yveltal destroy Vaniville Town, and the scientists try to murder the friend group multiple times. One of them uses a Doublade and a Honedge to hypnotize Shauna into using a Honedge to murder the others.

And by the end there's no parade and no public recognition of the friend group's accomplishments; most people in Kalos never realize there was a crisis and they nearly died, so they continue to treat the friend group as unwanted hooligans. The five of them have to force themselves to put all this behind them and go back to their old lives, because otherwise they would become exactly like Lysandre and seek revenge against the uncaring people of Kalos.

>>58505161
Happens to a lot of people

>>58505748
>the hiker in Pokemon Platinum
What's this about?

>>58505773
I love the XY arc. Don't forget things like the Tower of Mastery getting blown up, Team Flare using the kidnapped people of Vaniville as slave labor to carry the Xerneas tree and the starter Fennekin ending up with Malva and becoming evil.

>>58505773
Pokespe Trevor is pretty cool

>>58505809
>Says he'll shoot Lysandre to stop him from firing the Ultimate Weapon
>Lysandre calls his bluff
>Trevor has his Flabebe use Solar Beam on Lysandre, he wasn't bluffing

>>58505810
Holy kino

>>58502574 (OP)
4chins hate to see a girlboss winning.

>>58505773
By edge I mean more in the sense of like, attitude or things that are a little bit incongruous with Pokemon’s utopia rather than Coldsteel the Hedgeheg. I’ve read and enjoyed the Red/Yellow chapter which was definitely batshit insane but in a cool way - even though Tajiri praised it, you can see it influenced Masuda as well.

>>58502574 (OP)
Either that or being a personal toy of the elite

>>58505832
It's not gratuitously edgy, it serves to give Lysandre a point by making the group unable to trust anyone instead of how it actually was in the XY games where every NPC was the nicest person on the planet giving you items and gift Pokémon and Lysandre ranting about people being selfish and ungrateful seems out of nowhere and uncalled for.

>>58502574 (OP)
I really don't understand why americans compare Lysandre to Hitler. Do they really think he wanted to destroy the world like a cartoon villain?

>>58505852
They really do.

>>58505852
Not necessarily destroy, but definitely kill a ton people just to make a different world to his image just like Adolf

>>58505867
Moreover, didn't Cyrus try that too? Why isn't he compared as well?

>>58502844
Emma's not gonna do shit, she literally looks back on her time getting exploited by Xerosic as a fond enough memory to a point where she framed a photo of the pale fuck on the bureau wall, right next to a photo of the founder.

>>58505852
For the average American history start with George Washington then you had the Civil war then World war 2 then September 11.