iv only played ff3 and i want to play the whole series from start to finish on my YouTube channel feel free to post ff memes and discuss what your favorite Final Fantasy games and moments is

PS. Final Fantasy tactics looks really fun making me want to play the whole series

I've played ff1 and ff4 the most, but haven't played anything past 6. Hated 3.

>>11775357
3 felt pretty difficult i tried replaying it and i still felt it was difficult

>>11775364
It's been awhile since I played 3 but from what I recall the game is built around class changing a bunch but you need to spend capacity points to do so for zero reason whatsoever. I played with a cheatcode that made the classchange cost 0, since the pixel remaster did away with it entirely and even if it didn't it's a retarded mechanic that only forces you to grind more points to actually change people into what can actually tackle the dungeon.
I distinctly remember a boss that basically just ripped your asshole open unless you got 4 Dragoons and spammed Jump. The Mini dungeons are a cute idea but only punish you by forcing a fullmage party if you want to actually deal damage. Where I quit playing was the cave full of enemies that duplicate unless you attack them with a katana/spell. I remember it being such a slog and then I realized the infamous final dungeon wasn't long after.

Honestly just play FF5 if you want classchanging. Game's so much better it isn't even funny.

>>11775371
have you played FF3 for the ds?

>>11775374
I played for a little bit before finding the game painfully slow and swapping out the point system with something just as retarded. On that, classchanging nerfs your stats by 12.5% across the board for up to ten battles. Imagine having to do this every time you need to classchange someone, just more forced grinding because the game decided to punish you for using its core mechanic.
Not to mention one of the classes going from "you start as this" to "you cannot get it without cheating because it used a fucking pointless Wifi mail system to lock the Onion Knight class"

FF7 is a good game.

Played the GBA version of 2 lately and what's wrong with this game?

>4th partyslot is always exceedingly weak
>Plot focuses on getting Ultima but even when it's functioning it's not even very good and comes so late you're probably better off just using Flare instead
>earlygame encounter mapping is atrocious and it's extremely easy to get encounters meant for around Mysidia Tower on your way to Fynn within the first 5 minutes

Then you get to Soul of Rebirth and what a shitshow that is. Ultima's supposed to be even stronger than normal when Minwu uses it, but it's still extremely underwhelming because it comes at level 1 out of 16. You'll never get it further than maybe 8 over the course of that mode, and even that's with a ton of grinding.
That's not even saying anything about how you have to grind several of those insanely weak 4th partyslot members earlygame, 20+ hours before you know about Soul of Rebirth or else you just get obliterated in the first part of the mode.

>>11775350 (OP)
>favorite moments

rat tail to Bahamut
Mist Dragon vs. Shadow Dragon
opera of course
taking a break to masturbate to fanart of Fang and Lightning before resuming my run through a real FF game (i.e., one with 2D graphics)

>>11775350 (OP)
>iv only played ff3
So you're asking for spoilers? I guess you're not the type who minds spoilers

>>11775350 (OP)
Favorite Final Fantasy moments you say?

>>11775671
this guy is not hard, i one-shot him with dual swords. hit rate is very forgiving in this game compared to tactics advance which makes dual wield very viable

>>11775679
I have had a completely reasonable build that efficiently tore up every previous map against which he would get the first turn and lightning stab me to death before I got a chance to move

What are the general thoughts on ffv?

I only picked it up recently but fell in love, the job system is so fun and gives you so much shit to tinker with and test, it might be the first I actually finish, I found 7 not very engaging game-play wise or story wise hugely, so gave up partway through disk 2 I but that was like 8 years ago so eh, I'll probably give it another shot to try and understand the hype.

I'm thinking of trying out ff1 after this, it seems short enough that although it doesn't have jobs, there's lots of room for messing with different party compositions.

>>11776420
Ff5 is by far the best game on a gameplay level of all the final fantasies imo, but very weak on its story.

>>11776420
The story and characters are shit

>>11775350 (OP)
FF7 clouds memories is the most ground breaking sequence in video history both narratively and also in general. A few years prior ff6 also had narrative revolutions such as the ghost train and celes on an island.

Materia is still the best rpg system ever devised, although ff7 criminally underused it with the interesting materia only available at the very end of game.

Ff8 is the greatest sandbox RPG of all time barnone. I actually recommend only playing it as a card game battler with zero use of GFs in combat and minimal combat in general

Overall FF7 is the best one ff6 second.

>>11776420
Zero narrative, arguably best gameplay better than ff tactics

>>11776420

Why is that Gelgoog taking a leak off your drawer?

>>11776420
It's pretty good. I liked it a lot when I was younger and still cared about autisticly playing with and understanding RPG systems.

>>11775374
Not him but I played and beat it recently (PC port of the 3D version though) since I'm doing the same thing as OP only by myself. I quite enjoyed it a lot and desu I find most of the complaints to be way overblown and not actually a big deal. I can think of maybe three times total the game forces you to switch to a certain class and none of them were a big deal to me at least. I think a lot of people play it by switching constantly and that's why they get mad about the cool down when it's more of a half way mark between 1 with permanent classes and 5 where you switch nonstop. Aka you're supposed to lock into only a handful of classes and spend time leveling up but you do have a lot of freedom to switch it up.

Finished at level 52 with a ninja, sage, dragoon and knight and the final boss was challenging but very fun and engaging. Overall I rate it an 7-8 out of ten because I enjoyed it so much.

>>11776420
It's fine but insanely overrated by its fanbase imo. They also often fall into the same category as 8 fans where it feels like they hate most other games in the series for some bizarre reason but still insist on whining about it.

>>11775350 (OP)
I've played
1 (nes emu): still think this holds up really well, it feels way more obviously ultima and D&D the others and I like being able to pick different class load outs for a different game experience 7/10
1 (gba): maybe I'm a casual but I actually enjoy this version more, it's the one I replay at least. Cool QoL and cool visual update. 8/10
2 (gba): despite getting shat on for the weird stat and magic leveling mechanics I quite liked this, story is very 80s Hollywood in a fantasy setting and some of the characters are cool. The rebirth of souls bonus game in the gba version is sick. 6/10
3 (DS): I hated this. The guys all feel like literal who's and the class changing is so clunky. Doing anything feels like a slog and I just couldn't be bothered to finish the final dungeon with a bunch of boring boss rematches. There are some interesting story bits but overall I wouldn't bother. 3/10
4 (gba): I also hated a lot of this. Most of the party members feel like they're just sat there silently after they finish their short and boring arc. It's supposed to be about Cecil becoming a better guy but he only succeeds because an endless stream of losers sacrifice themselves for the plot to progress. ||And then come back making the sacrifice meaningless anyway|| Felt like a slog, and the spells all have a weird delay on top of the ATB. 4/10
5 (gba, snes emu): love this and have replayed it a bunch. Story manages to stay engaging despite being lighthearted, characters are all lovable, job system is flawless. Has some fantastic moments and is tragically underrated. 10/10
6 (snes emu, gba, snes with the woolsey uncensored patch): you will already find many other anons to tell you how great this is. Built on the foundations of 4 and improved literally everything. Story can get messy at times with so many characters, but again it has some unforgettable moments. The esper system is a cool precursor to the 3D era materia and junction systems. 9/10

>>11776420
>I'm thinking of trying out ff1 after this, it seems short enough
The original version of FF1 is not that short, it's like 25 hours long and that's considering the fact that it barely has any dialogue and story

>>11777580
Very fitting opinions considering the fucking discord spoiler failure.

>>11775350 (OP)
Not sure what version of the games you want to play. For a newcomer pixel remaster is good, is better than people say (FF is rarely hard)

Does this shit get any better? I came off FFV and this game is just cutscene trash everywhere and the sphere system is already dumb to me. Its like they hired hideo kojima for movie game final fantasy. PS2 was a mistake.

>>11776006
Getting wiped in the first turn you say?

>>11777791
That too, although at least there they need to outspeed your entire party's builds and not just Ramza for you to have zero options.

>>11777895
Elmdor and his demon assassins all have a higher speed stat than the wonder twins and if they ice them turn one you instantly lose the fight (happened to me twice)

>>11777713
>Does this shit get any better?
No.

>>11775350 (OP)
The real FF7 is Xenogear N69
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWOIjR9IdX0

I love NES FF1. Great game. Lots of tough interesting choices and planning. You can just grind it out, but even then it’s a challenge because you don’t know how many levels a dungeon will have. Pixel remasters are too easy imho.

>>11777713
>PS2 FFs
This the era I stopped playing FF. To me they feel like visual novels. If you get into the story it’s fun and the party mechanic is kind of interesting. But basically it’s another everyone can do everything and the story doesn’t really deviate from just saving the world and following Yuna around. My one tip is doesn’t even bother with blitz ball. It’s so god damn boring. In the one mandatory game just leave your TV on and grab a snack. It’s like 10 minutes of boring AI ascii sport text and if you do and win all of them all you get is a wakka ball.

>>11777580
>FF4 = 4/10
Haha harsh, but kind of fair. Going from NES FF1 to SNES4 (western FF2) was super cool for me. There story isn’t super deep, but it’s fun and the kind of bad translation adds to the charm. I think it’s worth trying. But ya if you’re not into its little shonen story the rest is pretty basic JRPG stuff. Actually it might be the most standard. Character classes are set in stone, standard magic, standard equipment, standard town dungeon loop. I’d recommend it if you like JRPGs in general. It’s no Chrono Trigger, but it’s memorable.

>>11782638
>ff1 through 9 all released on the ps1
>ps2 only had ff10, 11 and 12
What went wrong?

>>11782681
haha ya they had a ton of games on the ps1. parasite eve, xeno gears, front mission, legend of mana, ext. I think you’re right something about the ps2 era of square changed for the worse and i’m not sure what it was. Maybe the hormone success of X forced them into more and more cinematic junk? I mean I still have no idea why they ended up doing spirits within…. that said advent children is definitely my guilty pleasure.

>>11782841
>hormone = normie
:-( auto correct

>>11775679
are you implying dual wield ISN'T viable in FFT?

>>11776498
>FF7 clouds memories is the most ground breaking sequence in video history both narratively and also in general.
Here you go, King. You dropped this.

Playing through VIII right now. Just beat disc one. I swear so little happened and yet it took me 13 hours to get through that disc.
No chests. No equipment. No accessories. There's nothing to look for or explore! I also got the ability very early on to turn tents into 10 CURAGAS which is nuts. I waited a while to do anything with this and after realizing the game would not give me any awards or prizes I just caved and now all my party has quadrupled their hp, which also means I'm now always in limit break mode and enemies aren't hitting that hard. What kind of bizarre balancing is this?
I'm also getting really tired of adjusting the GFs around because the game loves to keep forcing party swaps.

>>11784136
Yet another retard filtered by ff8

>>11775350 (OP)
i never played this and skipped past any article i saw about it because i assumed it was a standalone tutorial for getting good at Final Fantasy which i also ignore because i hadn't played all the previous Final Fantasy games and thought i needed to

best ff6 translation patch?

>>11784489
Play the original us release of ff3 on snes

>>11784489
A Japanese textbook

>>11784489
>he doesn't know

>>11784552
yeah i don't, cunt, that's why i asked
>>11784535
kek stfu

>>11784560
I'm being serious

>>11784561
the translation on the US release is considered broken and unreliable

>>11782889
no, just the opposite. since you can get 100% hit rate in FFT on most units from side or back dual wield is sick. in FFTA dual wield blows because RNG estimation is wrong and evasion calculated differently

>>11784489
Probably the parody hack that the anti-Woolsites deleted for hurting their feefees.

>>11784489
GBA is seriously the only acceptable answer.
>but-
No fucking buts, there are more fan-hacks than there are grains of sand, you're not going to get an honest answer other than 'this is the fanhack I played and I thought it sounded okay'. Everyone literally starts with the GBA version as a base and then selectively roll back parts of the Woolsey and Skyrender scripts for nostalgic reasons, and no one can agree which parts of the scripts to reverse and the autism repeats. Just fucking don't, you're better off.
>TWUE?
The terrible ROM hack that started this shit. It was putrid "wow look at me I fixed this game" shit that only became passable because the guy was bullied out of undoing the bad "uncensored" info and he remarketed himself as "the guy" who just has the Woolsey script but without NOA policies. If you saw his early versions you'd know he fluked in and doesn't know what he's talking about, also his other hacks are more terrible best-of fanfictions.
>the QoL BS?
Controversial but it honestly just mostly makes FFVI play more like the GBA version anyway, though yeah it really should had more options.

>>11784870
>GBA is seriously the only acceptable answer.
i think i'll go with this. it seems to align with the general consensus.

>>11777713
it's a great game. you don't sound you're very far. just stick with it or don't ig. if it's not for you then it's not for you.
it's basically proto-13 and some of us actually loved 13 believe it or not.
it does contain the FF spirit which was largely lost by XV.

>>11776498
>FF7 clouds memories is the most ground breaking sequence in video history both narratively and also in general. A few years prior ff6 also had narrative revolutions such as the ghost train and celes on an island.
decent take.

How tough is Tactics on PSX? I always hear those war stories about this series about softlocking and being too hard and what not

I might want to play another tactic game after Shining Force III and I'm wonder if I should go with FFT, Vandal Hearts, or go back to the Fire Emblem that I dropped (I dropped the series in book 2 of the first SNES game because I hated the gimmicky shit every 2 battle).

>>11785158
Whenever the game offers you a free opportunity to save after a battle, SAVE IN A DIFFERENT SLOT. There, you're now free from getting soft locked.

>>11785158
Just make sure Ramza's strong and keep your equipment current and you'll be fine. It has a few points where it can lock you into saving when you can't grind like >>11785170 said, but as long as you keep multiple save slots you'll be fine.

It's hard if you don't know a lot about the game, but once you learn what all the classes can do the difficulty becomes making a team that's fun to play without completely steamrolling everything.

>>11785158
overall it's a pretty easy game. There's a learning curve depending on how much you want to learn the mechanics.
>>11785170
true. but the secret about softlocking in FFT: it's almost impossible to do. People like to talk about it a lot because they're obsessed with the game, and it technically can happen. If you just try to play the game at all (a few random battles to train, buy some extra items, try leveling new job classes... basic gameplay shit) it won't happen.

I remember trying to play FFT but I quit pretty early on because it didn't go your army>their army for movement, since it took into account speed stats. Felt like I had to micromanage by looking at every unit's speed so I didn't move someone somewhere they'd get killed.

>>11785216
I got soft locked. Only made me come back to the game with a vengeance and break the fucking shit out of it

>>11785158
the big softlock is a solo ramza battle, so just play the first and second act with that in mind. i seem to recall some gamefaqs literature recommending ramza as a supporting mage, so it seems that back then (2000s) people were basically building him as a mediator. i built him as ninja from the jump and one-shotted the infamous softlock fight.

>>11785270
>I didn't move someone somewhere they'd get killed
i only use half my units' movement range first few turns. if you let enemies walk into range the game is much easier even without autistically buffing speed in a circle jerk at the corner of the map like some will recommend

>>11785327
Maybe I'll give it another shot someday, I was probably missing something.

>>11785270
You can pull up the turn order at any time and check any unit's movement range, the order spells will be cast in, where or on who spells will be cast and more, but most people just never figure this out for some reason. If you don't use the turn order the game's a lot harder.

>>11785324
IMO the rooftop fight afterwards is a bigger ball ache if your party is slow or doesn't have the right setup, but the solo fight will kick your ass if you built Ramza in a particular way and/or haven't figured out how bullshit UberSquire is.

>>11775350 (OP)
>Final fantasy sloptics
Advance is better.

>>11777713
You sound mentally challenged so you should just stop playing, the game is too complicated for you

>>11785158
There absolutely is a realistic softlock condition in FFT. I have just recently played a game where the character I had, which was perfectly functional in previous maps played at a brisk pace, got one-shot before he was allowed to move for an instant game over in the main softlock battle. I had thought it might happen so I'd purchased something I could cheese it with if I needed to so I didn't end up softlocked, but a new player easily could have been in that situation with no backup plan.

(the cheese item you can purchase to avoid this is the "chameleon robe")

>>11785158
>PS1 Tactics
This game is so fucking slow. Compared to SNES tactics games or even just NES FFs with a million random encounters battles are so slow. Ogre is do much better. This game plays like riding a slug.

>>11788180
>Compared to SNES tactics game

Well yeah, battle speed in JRPGs took a nosedive during the 5th gen

Sorry for the OT but what the fuck is going with 4chanX. I had to reinstall my OS and now I can't reinstall 4chanX in either Chrome or Firefox, is there an alternative?

>>11788180
Did you go into the settings and disable all the options that make you confirm every little selection you make? That speeds it up a lot.

>>11789338
>>11789261
yaa I wish it came out as a snes game. oh cool thanks I’ll try out the settings junk. I played a bunch of the GBA game as a kid. the judge stuff and red cards were kinda bullshit but overall it’s a fun game.

>>11791485
*slices your happy world like a pizza*

>>11792823
haha right?
>casually forces physically disabled brother and outcast friends back into the real world after they successfully integrate into a world of fantasy, magic, and adventure
Marche might be the most despicable protagonist in all of gaming.

Is it worth waiting to get the PC version of FFT? I don't really care about any of the "remaster" stuff, I just hate playing RPGs with a controller.

>>11792878
You're thinking this will have a mouse system where you aim where you wanna go, like it's XCOM? I haven't played Tactics Ogre on PC but I'm pretty sure it doesnt have that
who isn't able to play JRPGs without a controller? They're built for it

>>11792842
But it was escapism ;)

>>11792914
is that the message? escapism is bad?>>11792878
meh just try the emulated ps1 version. probably not worth playing if you don’t like controllers though. all the japanese tactics games are shit with a mouse. the controller support is always decent though.

>>11791485
wait why does he have a pizza cutter sword, I thought that was the other guy

>>11792842
I wish the moral of the anti-escapism stories was that fake worlds are boring trash compared to the real one no matter how much they fulfill your fantasies

>>11793137
Both of them have it, although hopefully in a remake they would trash that weapon design

>>11792904
>>11792963
I just hate moving through menus with a D-pad or stick. I'd much rather use the mouse and some keyboard shortcuts.

>>11792878
>>11792904
Mark me as corrected, I just downloaded TO:R and the whole thing was redone for mouse control. Huh. Then it's probably safe to assume FFT will have it too. I didn't think they would suck off the PC crowd so hard but I guess a lot has changed from the early Playstation days.

Also man, these voices.... Canopus sounds weird as fuck

currently working on lunar (haven't played since '00s) what would you recommend i do after that

>FF2 (never played)
>FF4: After Years (never played)
>FF5 (never finished)
>FF7 (haven't played since maybe 2015 or so)
>Tactics (could never find a fucking copy on release, never played)
>Replay FF1 with a deliberately shitty party combo
>who am i quoting?

>>11793450
Tactics is the game I like most on this list, so I'd recommend that.

>>11776420
I Had the same tv
good times

>>11776420
Still like it enough to do an annual four job fiesta run.