Thread 11779795

Up until last week I've never heard of romhacks (I'm kind of a retard ik)
Currently playing pokemon crystal clear and it's thoroughly enjoyable but lacking story
Probably going to play pokemon clover and the super mario /v/orld saga afterwards
Shill me your best romhacks lads

>>11779795 (OP)
Crystal clear is GBC, right? I only played it briefly but I found it to be tranny "open world" nonsense. If I were going to play a romhack, I would play those with minimal changes, only minor qol improvements and making all mons available. Best example of this for gba is pokemon throwback

>>11779868
Ye. I haven't played pokemon in awhile so I'm just on 3x speed battling mofos to get a taste again
I don't see the point of playing a romhack over the original if it's just for minor qol improvements

>>11779868
>Only minimal changes
>because I said so
>I want to play the exact game game except I don't
Gay autismo opinion.

>>11779795 (OP)
crystal clear is made by gay niggers though. Play prism or Reforged instead.

>>11779891
qrd on reforged?

>>11779891
Is this true ? I haven't noticed any nigger behavior and it's mostly free-roam and customizable
I was thinkin of playin prism too, i'll haff to cheg it out thanks

>>11779795 (OP)
Pokemon Brown, the classic.

>>11779795 (OP)
Emerald ROWE

>>11779795 (OP)
A sick fuck like you would enjoy Moemon

-Pokemon Unbound is the top GBA Romhack, new region, NDS like graphics, QoL mechanics
-Pokemon Recharged Yellow is a remake of yellow for GBA, its something like a vanilla plus kind of game
-Pokemon Recharged Emerald, from the same guy of r.yellow, its a emerald plus with QoL changes and compatible with recharged yellow for trading.
-Pokemon Quetzal...its emerald but with ALL the pokemons up until GEN9, QoL changes... MULTIPLAYER, yeah, multiplayer on GBA, and lots and lots of content

>>11779903
IIRC, later versions have some sort of built-in diversity bullshit for NPCs. Like, it creates a rseed when you make a new save and uses it to randomly make some NPCs black until a certain quota is met.

>>11780670
>NDS like graphics

>>11779795 (OP)
This is generally a really good hack but it's ruined by them putting their retarded OCs all over the game, including replacing the final boss with them

>>11780695
I wouldn't even mind that if it didn't ruin the perfect color palette of gen 2. They look so fucking out of place.

>>11780753
>>11780784
Seconding these, are there any hacks of Crystal Clear that bleach back the NPCs or get rid of OC Elite 4?

>>11780915
There was but it is at least a year old, idk if there is a current one

golly, i sure love it when the romhack is the original game but easier and with memes!

>>11780695
wtf lol
it's still great for a crystal battle sim

>>11779939
it's 20 yrs old my nigger
>>11779946
i'll look into it thanks
>>11779983
holy fucking k i n o

>>11780670
Everyone shills me unbound but it looks very soulless to me and unnecessarily large
I'll have to take a look at the other three

>>11780915
>take old pervert
>make him black
Ok, I forgive the elite4 self inserts a little, still gay though.
>>11779891
>prism
My man.

>>11779891
>>11781032
What is it that you like about Prism?

>>11779795 (OP)
Pokemon Revelation for Emerald if you litetally just want the vanilla game with all Pokemon, marginal QoL (infinite bag and TMs), and most of the pointless changes reverted (the Steven/Wallace/Juan shuffle) or made optional (the tacky green outfits).

>>11781054
I'll just narrow it down to what I didn't like, because everything else was great.
1. The mining and crafting system was stupid, mostly it was anoying because every time you hit A on a wall you would use up a pickaxe which was annoying when looking for hidden items.
2. Some of the puzzles were way to long, or at least appeared too often (think seafoam islands)

>>11780915
While he's obviously too dark, Gen 2 NPCs already had a brown/tan filter on them. Gold in that gif is too pale

>>11781064
You've isolated the two things that make it unique as what you didn't like.
Are you sure you don't just like it because it's already a popular opinion?

Polished Crystal (faithful) for GBC.

As for GBA, I think Throwback for FRLG and Revelation for Emerald are the best that just enhances the vanilla experience instead of adding a bunch of shitty OC fanfiction.

I tend to avoid hacks that add Fairy Type and PSS like the plague because these games WERE NOT BUILT AROUND THAT and it's just MUH COMPETITIVE autism.

>>11781060
This. Revelation is everything one should want.

>>11781103
Don't be a disingenuous faggot.

>>11780915
>>11781032
ahahahaha
yeah I'm thinkin it's time to delete this abomination and let it burn in forever fire and brimstone

>>11781185
I asked what you liked about Prism, and you proceeded to say that you dislike it's unique elements.
There was nothing disingenuous about it, so you obviously just don't know what that word means.

>>11781334
>"Are you sure you don't just like it because it's already a popular opinion?:
>nothing disingenuous about it.
Like, mate, you are implying that I can't hold my own opinion on a midly popular romhack. It comes across as ass-hattery.
There is so much that was good about prism I took the simpler approach to name off my only 2 criticisms.

>>11779946
Emerald enhanced shits all over rowe

>>11780670
Emerald Enhanced is a much better improvement hack.

>>11781021
>looks soulless
Shallow opinion based on fuck all

>>11781334
The best rom hacks are ones that properly feel like a full new game. Prism does that.

>>11781414
literally an abomination

>>11781365
I'm implying that you're incapable of holding your own opinion because, when tasked with defending it, you couldn't. Instead, you told me that you actually dislike what it does differently from the base game.
Even now, you're struggling to explain why you like Prism.
>only 2 criticisms
But zero praises. That's not much of a pedigree.

>>11781414
loel

>>11781431
can both of you niggers relax
Prism is worth playing and even worth buying
The other anon said he only had two criticisms of it which aren't a big deal and said the rest of the game is flawless

>>11781426
that's an old version. The graphics look awesome now.

>>11781432
that's not Pokémon unbound

>>11781450
it's an improvement but still visually unappealing to me, that and the game is 6 gorillion hours long
>>11781452
literally is

>>11779868
I'm playing Crystal Legacy at the moment, finished Yellow Legacy last week. They're vanilla+ hacks.

>>11781441
>Prism is worth playing and even worth buying
And yet you can't explain why.
Saying "it's flawless" only means that you think it does what it sets out to do without error (which it's doesn't, since you both have only pointed to some of its flaws). A compost bin that doesn't leak is functionally flawless, but it's not something that I'd want to play with.
You've said nothing positive about its quality as a game, or even WHY YOU LIKE IT. It comes across as though you haven't ever thought about what makes it a good game, which is why I suggested that you're only parroting an opinion you've been given.

After asking why someone likes Prism, so far only one person (>>11781424) out of the three that chimed in has had even one good thing to say about it. But even that was just "it's a new and different game".

>>11781458
>it's an improvement
the graphics are now better than emerald, in particular the back grounds.

>>11781472
The only gbc romhacks that attempt to make a new region, are pure fucking trash. Prism is the only good gbc hack with a new region, the rest are just improvement hacks for rbgsc. Reforged is cool because it's a remix of gold using all of the unused beta Pokémon from the spaceworld leak.

That's all there is to say on this entire topic. Take it or leave it.

>>11781476
>the graphics are now better than emerald, in particular the back grounds.
lol

>>11781485
Nothing funny about it. They are.
Your shitposts from old ass incomplete game and a joke area that's not even in the final version, change absolutely nothing. Seethe harder autismo, game freak is trash.

>>11781483
>Prism is the only good gbc hack with a new region
Why?
You keep telling me that it's a good game, but you can't think of a single reason why. And yet you've been able to give two explicit reasons why you think it isn't.

You made it an interesting enough topic to pursue. I would've thought nothing of it if you'd just answered the question when it was asked, instead of going out of your way to avoid it.
Now I'm convinced you simply CAN'T answer the question, and that is very interesting.

>>11781498
>They are.
they're not
you pointed to the backgrounds specifically but the three that have been posted are just colored smudges, and i'm 80% sure they're bit-crushed gen 4 backgrounds

>>11781504
First of all, that was a different poster you fucking idiot.

Second, it's good because it isn't bad at anything. I made that very clear. Every other gbc romhack has shitty fakemon, terrible engrish, edge lord sonichu writing, ridiculously fucking unbalanced trainers. They're just shit made by kids, usually 3rd world ones. Prism feels on par with a normal Pokémon game. The region is designed like you would expect from a real game, the trainers are fair, the pokin gave normal balance. The story is on par with any other Pokémon game There just isn't anything bad about it, and therefore that makes it the best because every other gbc romhack is either vanilla+, or pure irredeemable fucking garbage.

>>11781510
Do you even remember what emeralds backgrounds looked like nigger? PLAIN FUCKING WHITE.

Unbound also has better shading than vanilla.

>>11779795 (OP)
Polished Crystal is far better than Crystal Clear

>>11781515
>it's good because it isn't bad at anything
Please see:
>Saying "it's flawless" only means that you think it does what it sets out to do without error (which it's doesn't, since you both have only pointed to some of its flaws). A compost bin that doesn't leak is functionally flawless, but it's not something that I'd want to play with.

As for the rest of your post,
>Prism is good because it's just like an official Pokemon game!
Game Freak is trash, and Prism being comparable to a standard Pokemon game isn't inherently a positive.
But I do appreciate you at least trying to think of good things to say about it, instead of just asserting that "it's good because it is".

>>11781476
Looks like shit. Just admit you actually only like gen 5 onwards and you're allergic to classic Pokemon

>>11781528
Nta, but you talk like you smell your own farts.

>>11781483
>>11781515
Prism adds new types and the physical/special split, therefore it's shit and trash and not worth playing

>>11781546
I have not seen a single good critique of the physical special split being a negative that wasn't boiled down to ignorant babble or a Gengar/Alakazamfag seething that their precious mon lost coverage.

>>11781518
Unbound is terrible tranny reddit nonsense, fuck off

>>11781557
I'm not much of a fan of hacks changing the UI either but i gotta agree with that anon, the backgrounds actually look more lively and honestly I've seen worse.

>>11781515
I like your passion anon
Please shill me your top 5 poke romhacks
I already downloaded Prism and have it ready to go

>>11781556
I have not seen a single good defence of the physical/special split other than
>ree every mon needs to have 90 bp stab moves for its main attack stat because competitive!!
As I've said before, you just want everything handed to you on a silver platter and to be competitively viable for smogon nonsense. You don't actually want to think for yourself or play pokemon for what it is

>>11781515
Vanilla+ are the only romhacks worth playing. Not just for Pokemon, for anything

>>11781518
when you take off the smudge filter you disingenuously applied to it, the emerald backgrounds are at least visually cohesive and interesting, picrel
gen 4, and unbound by extension, are just smudges of color

>>11781564
>and to be competitively viable for smogon nonsense.
The physical special split didn't do this so why are you even complaining about it?

>>11781575
This. The simplicity of the Gen 3 backgrounds work well.

>>11781576
Give one (1) reason why the physical special split is better than how things were previously, without saying that every mon needs to have strong stab moves that use its higher attack stat (they don't)

>>11781021
I though unbound sucked. the towns looked pretty though

>>11781556
>Gengar/Alakazamfag seething that their precious mon lost coverage
gengar never lost coverage though, and alakazam never stopped being one of the strongest psychics in the game
do you just not know what you're talking about?

>>11781586
Outside of mostly making more sense and being cohesive, it just allows for more costumization.
Let's assume that Gen 1 had the split from the get go, with the exception of the users of Hyper Beam being shuffled, a lot of pokemon would feel more unique.
Seaking now can use physical Waterfall, making it standout more from all the waters that have the exact same learnset as it has, the damage is still not much better than using Surf but it does give Seaking a fun niche.
Magmar gets to use fire punch instead of Fire Blast in the few matchups it's more favorable.
And Hitmonchan gets to be able to properly use his gimmick instead of being a worse Hitmonlee.

>>11781594
>gengar never lost coverage though
What he has now doesn't compare to the elemental punches though.
>and alakazam never stopped being one of the strongest psychics in the game
Well yes, it's a powerfully fast glass canon it was going to be good regardless of minor setbacks.

>>11781604
seaking already gets waterfall, magmar already gets fire punch. and hitmonchan can already use the elemental punches

>>11781608
gengar could still learn the punches if you added the split to gen 2, and thunderbolt was always a better pick regardless
if gengar and alakazam are just as well off with or without the split, why'd you pick them as your counters to the opposition?

>>11779868
>I found it to be tranny "open world" nonsense
Why are open worlds considered tranny now? I don't really keep up with romhacks, so just wondering

>>11781626
>seaking already gets waterfall, magmar already gets fire punch. and hitmonchan can already use the elemental punches
Yeah, it's just not worth the investiment, which is why it's more entertaining with the split.
>gengar could still learn the punches if you added the split to gen 2, and thunderbolt was always a better pick regardless
Gengar doesn't have TBolt equivalents for Ice and Fire.
>if gengar and alakazam are just as well off with or without the split
Genger remained mostly the same because Special Shadow Ball and Sludge Bomb/Wave, but Zam really fell off in comparison.

>>11781650
it's just a buzzword to say that he doesn't like it

>>11781652
>it's just not worth the investiment
what investment? it's part of its learnset
>Gengar doesn't have TBolt equivalents for Ice and Fire.
it never needed them, thunderbolt's just there for coverage. and again, it could still use the punches with the split

you're not making any real argument in favor of the split

>>11780670
>NDS like graphics

>>11781667
>what investment?
The investment of actually using them.
>it never needed them
That's debatable, Ice is much stronger than Electric, Poison and Ghost offensively and the latter two are countered by Steel which is weak to fire, so yeah, not having that coverage does make Gengar player miss the pre split punches.
>it could still use the punches with the split
Yeah, they just do so little damage now that it's not worth wasting a moveslot on them compared to other stuff.
>you're not making any real argument in favor of the split
I mean, you aren't making any real argument against it either.
I think it's more fun, which is enough for me.

>>11781667
>>11781626
>They can already/still use it
Motherfucker this is the equivalent of saying that Seaking can use peck for grass types instead of Ice Beam.
You can have a party with moves that don't go past 50 BP.
You CAN have an Alakazam that has nothing but normal and Fighting moves and beat the game or fight your friend with it, but why the fuck would you do that without a bit of irony?
Honestly, if this wasn't /vr/ I'd think this was bait.

>>11781652
>every mon needs to have all the best moves it could possibly learn for its higher attack stat!!
You're a lunatic. This actually takes away customisation and creativity

>>11781719
Except It quite literally doesn't, Physcal Waterfall and Fire Punch don't completely outclass Surf and Fire Blast but the latter completely outclasses the former in the gen 1 we got.
Those specific examples wouldn't even shake up the meta much, as I said, it would only give those pokemon niches that are decently fun to be used.

>>11781692
>The investment of actually using them.
you can't even catch a goldeen until you reach fuchsia, and at a max level of 20. the split wouldn't change that. but that also means you already have access to surf.
seaking also doesn't need help. it's strong enough to perform just fine in the main game.
>That's debatable
considering gengar has competitive sets without ice punch, it really isn't debatable at all
>they just do so little damage now
65 physical attack is just fine for a single player game where you're not going up against optimized vgc sets
it seems like most of this is some self-imposed restriction on your part to be as close to optimal as possible, but these are very easy rpgs with a lot of room to experiment and make "mistakes".

>>11781710
>Seaking can use peck for grass types instead of Ice Beam
it can. you probably wouldn't want to, but it can.
in fact, i'd say that'd be totally viable way to use goldeen if you got it early enough for it to make sense.
>You can have a party with moves that don't go past 50 BP.
you sure can
>You CAN have an Alakazam that has nothing but normal and Fighting moves
you could do that, and probably wouldn't even struggle much
in fact, one of the better counters to alakazam in gen 1 comp was another alakazam with seismic toss because it dealt a consistent 100 damage and resists psychic
just like the other guy, i think you're just afraid to try anything that isn't guaranteed to be the most effective strategy, and that's just not very fun

>>11781729
Why do you need moves that don't outclass other moves, different moves are going to be learned by different mons at different times. Again, not everything needs to be geared to smogon competitive nonsense. This is like saying that Water Gun and Bubble shouldn't exist because you can just teach mons Surf

>>11781749
>you can't even catch a goldeen until you reach fuchsia, and at a max level of 20. the split wouldn't change that. but that also means you already have access to surf.
So you acknowledge that Gen 1-3 waterfall is an unironic filler move.
>seaking also doesn't need help. it's strong enough to perform just fine in the main game.
It doesn't, but it would be cool if it had something to stand out from Seadra.
>considering gengar has competitive sets without ice punch, it really isn't debatable at all
Shocking, Gengar has multiple other qualities beyond the elemental punches.
>65 physical attack is just fine for a single player game
EVERYTHING is just fine for the single player game.
>i'd say that'd be totally viable way to use goldeen if you got it early enough for it to make sense.
By the time you evolve Goldeen into Seaking you already have much better options than peck for it in both Gen 1 and 2.
>in fact, one of the better counters to alakazam in gen 1 comp was another alakazam with seismic toss
Seismic Toss is literally on a sample set for Alakazam in Gen 1 competitive you moron.

>>11781759
Except you literally get Waterfall and Fire Punch at the same time you get Surf and Fire Blast.
Again, why are you against more pokemon having unique niches to them?

>>11781759
Isn't this entire shitfling caused because anon thinks the split makes STAB completely outclass other moves?
They can still use their pre split moves if they so desire, so what's the problem here exactly if being outclassed isn't the issue?

>>11781767
>>11781768
>>11781763
why do you fuckers want pokemon to be worse? i don't care about competitive bullshit, i just want to play the game, stadium 1+2 and colo/xd were great and fun

>>11781763
>So you acknowledge that (senseless waffling)
what are you talking about? nobody said that.
waterfall is also required to beat two of those games. did you not get that far?
>Gengar has multiple other qualities beyond the elemental punches.
yes, which is why claiming that anyone would be upset by it being gimped by the split was asinine nonsense.
>EVERYTHING is just fine for the single player game.
yes.
>By the time you womp womp womp womp womp womp
i specifically said "if you got it early enough". you even quoted that, so i don't know how you managed to miss it.
>Seismic Toss is literally on a sample set for Alakazam in Gen 1 competitive
yes, which is why i said it's a thing in gen 1 comp. once again, you even quoted that part.

>>11781780
Care to explain to me how waterfall not being homogenized with Surf somehow makes pokemon worse?

>>11781783
Care to explain to me how water gun, bubble, and bubblebeam being homogenised with surf is fine?

>>11781781
>waterfall is also required to beat two of those games.
After GF unnecessarily turned it into an HM, yes.
>yes, which is why claiming that anyone would be upset by it being gimped by the split was asinine nonsense
You do realize that people can like moves for their aesthetic and what else right? In /vr/ itself you have people complaining about sequels completely removing or changing mechanics and abilities from the playable cast.
>i specifically said "if you got it early enough"
The only retro game where you get Goldeen early is GSC and you get Headbutt 5 levels in, with Surf and icy wind just a few levels later, no reason to keep peck on a Seaking.
I was never arguing over the EXISTENCE of peck.
>yes, which is why i said it's a thing in gen 1 comp.
My point was that this was common knowledge and shouldn't be brought up like it's an argument.

>>11781785
Those moves are early game and are spread through multiple non-water pokemon, Waterfall isn't, in fact, it's a SIGNATURE MOVE of ONE water pokemon.

>>11781794
It's a signature move, like crabhammer. It's for flavour for those mons, not everything needs to be hyper optimised smogon bullshit

I have no idea what you cunts are arguing about
Recommend moar pokeroms

>>11781801
Crab hammer literally allows Kingler and Krabby to by pass their low special stat with guaranteed crit.
They aren't comparable.

>>11781805
(Unofficial) Throwback is the best gen 3 romhack

>>11781805
mariomon
imagine putting bing bing wahoo in your pokemons

>>11781807
Mental illness

>>11781809
>>11781808
baste
i'll cheg 'em out

>>11781812
I'm sorry, did I say that the lack of my pet-peeves ruin gen 1? I can play gen 1 just fine.
I was asked to explain my reasoning and I did just that, you being butthurt over me not kneeling to your views doesn't make me mentally ill.

>>11781815
>I can play gen 1 just fine
lol

>>11781816
Yes? I've played gen 1 a bunch of times.
Even did a mono grass run last year and trade with GSC from time to time.

>>11781823
This is just sad, anon

>>11781824
Playing games is sad?

>>11781825
Trying to prove that you're some pro retro gamer is what's sad. Just play pokemon and enjoy it, don't worry about what people think about the physical/special split, if you like it then great

>>11781827
I mean, I don't think making a mono run on one of the better types of gen 1 make you a "pro player" but sure, thanks.

>>11780753
this is really the difference of it being a perfect game and not, the changes to crystal are great but the gamertag-named champions are cringe

>>11781832
>the changes are great
No they're not

>>11781792
>After GF unnecessarily turned it into an HM
so in two of the three games you specified? (see:>>11781763)
>You do realize that people can like moves for their aesthetic
that's not what was being talked about at all (see: >>11781556)
>The only retro game where you get Goldeen early is GSC
a few things about this:
- goldeen doesn't GET headbutt in gsc, and never learns it by level
- surf isn't available until ecruteak (and again, not by level)
- icy wind is even farther off, once you beat pryce in mahogany (once again, not by level)
- when you get access to goldeen (just before azalea at level 10), peck actually has some room to be fairly usable in ilex forest. arguably more useful than it could've been at any point in gen 1.
play the game, man.
>My point was that this was common knowledge
okay, so then you knew it wasn't outlandish when you framed it as a ridiculous option that no one would ever want to do (see: >>11781710)

>>11781830
See >>11781812

>>11781835
the moveset changes and still being transferrable to vanilla/used in ps2 is kinda great imo

>>11781839
>moveset changes
No thanks. Next you'll say that adding new mons, new types and the phys/spec split to gens 1-3 is good

>>11781809
Doesn't that game not work?

>>11781836
Not reading all that, autismo

>>11781842
concession accepted
go play the game, champ

>>11781845
I only play romhacks that make minor changes to qol and mon availability

>>11781838
Not gonna reply with that to the anon replying to me for hours as well?

>>11781849
Who

>>11781849
>i-i'm a victim! stop bullying me!
Shut up, faggot.

>>11781840
... no, no i won't

>>11781854
Good

>>11781836
>so in two of the three games you specified?
Cut was an HM in gen 1 and I'd argue it was also a filler move there, point being?
>that's not what was being talked about at all
People can like things for both aesthetic and utility, against, just look at other games with sequels take or change things from the previous games and people complain about it, same thing applies here despite those mons remaining good.
>goldeen doesn't GET headbutt in gsc, and never learns it by level
Oh, my mistake, it DOES get horn attack with is nearly twice the power of peck anyway.
>surf isn't available until ecruteak (and again, not by level)
Still like 10 levels from the nearest point you get a Goldeen.
>okay, so then you knew it wasn't outlandish when you framed it as a ridiculous option that no one would ever want to do
In that instance I was talking about keeping the move until the league, which is why i said SEAKING and not GOLDEEN.
>>11781845
That wasn't even me brother.

>>11781862
Why are you so obsessed with Seaking?

>>11781864
Why are you seaking an answer?

>>11781864
He's just an example I came up that the other anon focused on.
But I'll say that I did get Seaking to the league in my first actual playthrough of red.

>>11781862
>All those grammar errors
Fuck me man...

>>11781862
>point being?
the point is you're wrong. it's a required tool for progression, so it's inherently not filler.
>People can like things for both aesthetic and utility
that's still not what was being talked about. you (or someone equally wrong) tried to claim that the only people who aren't in favor of the split are gengar/alakazam users who don't like that those monsters got worse, but they never actually did.
"aesthetic" was never a part of the discussion, and it's odd that you keep trying to force this unrelated tangent.
>it DOES get horn attack
it does, at level 15. until that point, peck would still have viability.
>Still like 10 levels from the nearest point you get a Goldeen.
level isn't really relevant, since it's an hm, and goldeen still has to get through a significant number of battles without surf.
that's a ways after ilex forest anyway, which is where peck would see the most use.

>>11781886
>the point is you're wrong. it's a required tool for progression, so it's inherently not filler.
Splitting hair.
>tried to claim that the only people who aren't in favor of the split are gengar/alakazam users who don't like that those monsters got worse
I also claimed the alternative was them being ignorant.
>but they never actually did.
Because of other things those 2 got, yes.
>it does, at level 15. until that point, peck would still have viability
You get Goldeen at lv 10 and at 15 you might not even have beaten Bugsy.
Again, the pokemon at ilex forrest are all level 5 outside of the trees so it's not like Goldeen actually needs that SE hit in the first place.
>level isn't really relevant
I used levels as a bench mark for the time one might take to get those tools, it's not that deep.

I swear this is just one person arguing with himself

>>11781912
News flash, if pokemon didn't have a fanbase like this /vp/ wouldn't be a thing.
Which says a lot when you consider this fag got bullied out of there.

>>11781902
>Splitting hair.
really not, they're mutually exclusive labels
>at 15 you might not even have beaten Bugsy.
i guess if you're the kind of person who grinds to some sort of "level cap", then sure.
>I used levels as a bench mark
weird choice for location-based events

>>11781917
Tbf, it's only really grinding if you already have a party of 6 by that point.

>>11781915
Truly a terrible state.

>check unbound
>muh war
>muh shadows
Nigga chill, it is just pokemon. I just want to beat Jesse and James and them going "team rocket blasting off again". What is with these autists trying to take everything so seriously

>>11781572
There's way too many Vanilla+ Pokémon hacks that feel like they were made by some middle schoolers in less than a week. They identified obvious design flaws with the original game, thinks that makes them a game designer and frivilously updates everything. Usually has the title "true", "perfect", "ultimate", "ideal" or any other words where it praises itself.
Its flooded because the tools are easy to use. It's made by fans of Youtubers hope senpai notices them and praises their hack to high heavens. Because every Poketuber treats a rom hack as the most incredible thing ever and showers it with praises no matter how lame it is because blind praising everything is what gets them the most money.

>>11783178
>fans of Youtubers hope senpai notices them and praises their hack to high heavens
what?

>>11783178
>OOGA BOOGA! THING POPULAR, ME NO LIKE THING!

>try pokemon unbound
>"Choose your character" for gender selection

Unbound is gay. only romhack i enjoyed that wasn't just a qol update of the original was Gaia. maybe emerald rogue for something totally different.

>>11783381
I agree, with the addition of red rocket
Is Prism worth playing ? Seeing as the updated version was made by "rainbowdevs" literally a furry faggot who added homosexual relationships in a fukcing pokemon game for some reason

>>11783402
Prism was pretty good the last time I played, although you're probably going to think the game is "too long" and bloat with all the content it has (like 3 regions if I recall?).

>>11783312
>I like to play bad hacks with no thought put into them because some talentless hack I have a parasocial relationship tells me to, because I lack the ability to think for myself. My Youtuber idol just told me to eat my own poop so I'm gonna do it now. Yummy.

>>11783402
Prism has made up types and phys/spec split

>>11783402
I only played it back in 2016 prior to the C&D, but my two main takeaways from it was a lopsided difficulty curve(You get a Larvitar as a starter and the first gym is fire), sometimes confusing progression, and an annoyingly high encounter rate in caves.

>>11784556
Oh, that's cool.

>>11783545
That's a lot of words for someone that couldn't actually point out anything bad with them.

>>11784739
>A small paragraph is "a lot of words".
Ok zoomer.

>>11784810
Yes, a lot of meaningless words thrown around in a poor attempt to make a point.

>>11784817
I already told you why most improvement or even difficulty hacks suck here >>11783178
Why dont you tell me hacks you like and why they're good to counter instead of being a moron?

>>11784829
Saying something is shit because it's easily accessible is not a real explanation why it sucks.

>>11784856
They're bad because they're numerous and low-effort.

>>11784856
>easily accessible
That's not what I said. I said most that try to improve the game design actually make it worse most of the time because they dont know what they're doing.

Post more samefag split shit.

>>11784880
Since you're not going to actually answer I'm assuming I struck a nerve because you're probably making a shitty hack of that category right now. Also >>11784859 isn't me. God I hate parasocial zoomers.

>>11783178
Can you really even call Revelation a "Vanilla+" hack? Most of what it changes gameplay-wise are just minor QoL boosts that later games introduced or restoring dummied-out material like Altering Cave, and you can't even catch anything new until post-game. Heck, it restored the 0 IV glitch to the Johto Beasts solely so they could be deemed legal for transfer. I'd say Revelation is more slavish to the original Emerald than most other "Vanilla+" hacks.

>>11784868
Post some examples.
>>11784895
That 880 guy isn't me.

>>11784859
That goes for any fan content and even main pokemon games though

>>11784987
Not necessarily. Difficulty hacks always cater to whatever ecelebs want. Shit like infinite rare candies only became a thing because of them.

>>11785002
Those are have infinite candies being optional though.

>>11785004
And the feature is only included to try and get into the good graces of ecelebs. Difficulty hacks aren't made with any sort of vision, they're made for the dev to get attention and become popular.

>>11785007
>Games cater to an audience
Wow, it's almost like those who play difficulty hacks are probably going to nuzlocke them and having that option helps.

>>11785021
That whole trend is fucking gay. Why bother doing a challenge run if you're just going to cheat?

>>11785024
How is it cheating if all nuzlockes are played with level caps? Besides, a bunch of those are content creators themselves and watching someone grinding for hours is just not entertaining to watch.
Before that became the norm people just overleveled to avoid losses.

>>11785040
It's cheating because you don't even have to play the game, you just enter a menu and create the Pokemon you want. Which, again, is only a thing because it caters to ecelebs who value creating "content" over actually playing a game.
Grinding is just as bad. Why bother doing a challenge run if you're just going to cheese it? There is no reward for completing a nuzlocke, so why bother turning it into a spreadsheet simulator?
tl;dr, youtubers poisoned the well of rom hacking

>>11785041
Again, it's optional, you're not forced to take those candies.

>>11785046
It doesn't matter if it's optional or not, because it lets you know exactly what the developer is making a game for. I'll give you a hint: it's not because Pokemon is his passion.

>>11785050
Lack of passion is when you allow people to play the game the way they want.

>>11785053
Is that not what providing game-altering options does?

>>11785057
Why the fuck are you playing a hack where the only change is infinite rare candies in the first place?

>>11785062
I'm not playing them, because I don't like them. I'm still within my rights to call them out for what they are: mass-produced soulless slop designed exclusively to appeal to ecelebs and eceleb fans.

>>11785068
>Complaining about something without playing it
Oh yeah, I forgot in was posting on /vr/.

>>11785075
Why do I need to play it? I've already gone through Kanto a hundred times. I don't care if it has 1000 Pokemon crammed into it.

>>11785078
It's just ironic to see you be so negative about a thing you never even touched and think your opinion actually holds any weight.

>>11785087
I don't have to taste shit to know what it is.

bro didn't you know? one option = one content
it's okay for something to lack vision and cohesive design as long as i'm in control because a game should never challenge me unless i want it to. it's called "accessibility" and hmmm i don't know maybe you're just an ableist

lil bro is so fucking mad I won't play his difficultyslop

>>11785090
Yet you eat the exact same shit but with less stuff.

>>11785101
Keep telling yourself that.

>>11785092
Weird how there's so many common problems with romhacks, like badly placed difficulty spikes, poor pokemon availability/accessibility and ugly UI changes (also nonsensical story for other hacks).
And yet, what makes the hack lack vision is...pandering to people anon doesn't like.

>>11785127
>badly placed difficulty spikes, poor pokemon availability/accessibility and ugly UI changes
just use the rare candies and then it doesn't matter, you're just complaining for no reason bro you don't like nothin lol
it doesn't lack vision you're just nitpicking, accounting for every option takes time and effort and well it's hard work and you just wouldn't get it

>>11785134
Why are you acting like all romhacks have infinite candies built in?

>>11785127
Yes, because you're not making a game because you want to make a Pokemon game, you're making a game because you want attention from ecelebs.

>>11785134
>>11785139
You do realize that 90% of those only give you infinite candies if you select to play the game as a nuzlocke, right?
You are never going to cheese through the game with them unless you specifically lie to the game about how you intend to play it.

>>11785152
Anon, I'm starting to think you're purposely misinterpreting the point I'm trying to make.

>>11785137
they don't but they should because that's accessibility and quality of life and well jeez i don't have all the time in the world to play this game so i can get it off my freaking backlog
it's literally only a good thing to give the player more options for playing, or not playing, your game
>>11785152
oh my gosh bro thank you! it's literally MY choice to skip the gameplay so like why is it even a problem lol?
in fact the only reason anyone even struggles with balance is because they think they're above using those options lmao it's right there bro just use it haha

>>11785156
The point being people I don't like lack passion?

>>11785172
lol get his ass
firered++ has just as much vision and passion behind it as gaia and some losers just can't accept that

Isn't this the same guy who spite beat GSC with Azumarill with attract from the other thread?

>>11785180
golly i hope so because that would make him wrong and i wouldn't have to engage with the point

>>11785172
No, I dislike those people because they lack passion. They don't want to make a game, they want to make something that creates attention.
There's already a million Kanto+ hacks out there, what makes yours stand out?

>>11785165
Anon, you know the same can apply to people just grinding to lv 100 in the first route.
It's an option in the game and nothing but your own will stops you from doing it.

>>11785187
I don't have one

>>11785192
Then why are you defending them so fervently?

>>11785189
exactly! they just make it easier and take out the boring time investment parts so i can get on with my freaking life! more games should be balanced like this because um it's just better to let me do it my way!

>>11785007
This is my main problem with all of the slop coming out. There's no passion, just do what you think is popular.

>>11785196
Because his role model Youtuber who he has a parasocial relationship with said they were good.

>>11785197
That would be fine if there weren't a million low quality ones making it harder to find something with actual substance.

>>11781431
>I'm implying that you're incapable of holding your own opinion-

Not that anon, but quit commenting if you don't wanna embarrass yourself any further. Nobody is obliged to explain to you the reasoning behind their opinion. An opinion is an opinion, even without your questions and empty arguments.

>>11785247
>quit commenting
that's a post from two days ago anon the discussion ended long before you showed up, and you've added nothing

>>11785256
Looks like you've not gotten any wiser after those two days. Keep improving

>>11785262
>you
you're schizophrenic

>>11785263
>still mad

Yeah I'm the schizophreniac. Keep waiting for new comments on this thread

>>11785269
???
there was an ongoing discussion you fucking schizo. go the fuck outside, jesus christ

>>11785272
>still mad
>still keeps updating the thread

Oh, you mean the one from half an hour ago? Or are you just waiting for my replies

Is everyone from /vp/ a mind-broken schizophrenic, or is it just this guy? The recent influx of Pokemon threads has been like going to a zoo and having the animals escape their cages.

>>11785228
That's a bit reductive.
There are a LOT of slop "improvement" hacks out there, and the vast majority are aimless trash. But their popularity isn't always tied to YouTubers or even ecelebs in general. They just cater to the kind of people who do nothing but play Pokemon games, and more specifically the people who already inhabit the fangame community.
If you've ever been in the space, you'll know that there are a few strange and widespread brainworms about game design. Mostly regarding respecting the player's time and "accessibility" (infinite rare candies, stat/moveset editing, speedup, etc.).
Generally speaking, the most well-received romhacks/fangames are those that give everything to the player up front and don't impede their play style with rules or pacing or story elements or challenges or anything else a normal person might appreciate in a video game. These people want a sandbox battle sim, and so that's what these hacks set out to provide. A lot of the heavy hitters (Crystal Clear, RadicalRed, ROWE, etc.) are just that. And because the response to this style of game design is so positive, it's led to original games (and even THE original games) being panned as clunky and anti-player.

>>11785335
There's an anon that admittedly got bullied out of /vp/ because nobody respected his opinions, so he basically wants to take his frustration out on /vr/.

>>11785196
The idea that you have to be part of a group to share or understand a sentiment is really retarded desu.

>>11785407
Why do you care so much if you have no skin in the game?

>>11785439
I don't care about character skin.

>>11785407
empathy is a 90+ IQ trait
people below that threshold simply don't have it and so can't think about anything that isn't about them or from their point of view

>>11785407
I'm just tired of the scene getting flooded with shitty games and want more out of passion.

What you guys are talking about isn't a new problem, it's just on a wider scale. People were making bad ROM hacks 20 years ago, some chasing acceptance, and others were passionate but weren't able to make anything good. Then there was some well made hacks, that either got popular through merit or not, but were appreciated by those who played nonetheless. There's no "fixing" this problem, as this applies to media in general. All you can do is filter out the noise and either make something you're passionate about, putting your feelings of acceptance and popularity aside, or help get the word out about well made hacks. If people are going to play crap, you can try to steer them to higher quality work but if they decide to consume crap, that's what they're gonna do. There's no point in arguing with them.

I wish the situation were different, but it is what it is. There are still people making good hacks, even if they're harder to find. Use it as motivation to make something good or keep talking about ones you consider the best.

Thanks for playing

>>11779795 (OP)
>pokemon crystal clear
Does it have more pokemon available early on? I dislike that I always have to settle for fucking pidgeys and play half the game with pokemon I don't particularly like.

>>11786498
You choose the starting town, but wild Pokemon have no level adjustment so good luck using anything that isn't a basic normal-type.

>>11786502
Is there more pokemon variety you can encounter?

>>11785180
You STILL haven't been able to give a single why people using mons like they like (over optimised competitively viable mons) is wrong

>>11785335
>few strange and widespread brainworms about game design. Mostly regarding respecting the player's time and "accessibility"
Ah yes, wasting player time by forcing mindless grinding sure is a great design decision.
You anti grind people are utterly retarded and don't actually want a challenge.

>>11786580
>forcing mindless grinding
When are you being forced to do that?

>>11786584
Wanna play this game ? Ok.
Name a single hack where you can just go from point A to B without grinding and be able to beat the gyms?
And if you can, all that proves is that the game doesn't have any difficulty. You know, one of the things you were bitching about.

>>11786586
>he thinks difficulty only comes from big numbers

>>11786589
Just admit you hate playing video games

>>11786594
Why would I? You're the one who wants games that just give you infinite resources to overcome any challenge. Just play Showdown.

>>11786589
In a tbs game for children? Yes.

>>11786602
Nah. There is no difficulty there, it just comes down to tedium. And if your game is to tedious that it requires you to add in features to completely circumvent playing the game, it's a bad game.

>>11786576
And you remain illiterate.

>>11779795 (OP)
For a non-Pokemon one, there's a FFV Custom Classes hack that allows you to replace most of the commands in your menu, rather than being limited to the a single slot. It also gives you the GBA jobs way earlier.
I didn't play it for too long, so I dunno if the balance goes to pot later, but it's fun to mess around with.

>>11786580
>forcing mindless grinding
So don't grind.
>don't actually want a challenge
So don't grind.
The solution to your problems is pretty obvious.

>>11786915
Your options for grind in pokemon rom hacks:
-Game is balanced around grinding and you have to do it.
-Game is piss easy and you can beat it blind.
This annoys me so much with drayano hacks. Never grind and never run away from encounters. Reach gym leader, he is 10 lvls above.

>>11786958
>-Game is piss easy and you can beat it blind.
Not really.

>>11785634
I think I know who you are. You are cool.

>>11786958
>Your options for grind in pokemon rom hacks:
Don't.
If this was any other RPG, everyone would agree that strategizing to overcome the boss was the solution, and not level grinding to some arbitrary cap. But once Pokemon enters the discussion, people suddenly forget how to play RPGs and conclude the only way to win is to out-level the opponent and just have bigger numbers. And if you so much as imply that they don't need to grind in order to win, they fall back on the same, tired argument every time.
>strategy was never intended! it's a game for kids, so i need to play like a retard!

I hate Pokemon players so fucking much it's unreal.

>>11787043
I've been playing gen 1-3 without grinding, and choosing the right type is about 90% of the battles, so I can't say I blame them, if that's what they're used to.

>>11787043
>If this was any other RPG, everyone would agree that strategizing to overcome the boss was the solution
a large difference between pokemon and most rpgs is that your options are severely limited for any random engagement. You have 6 slots and 24 moves to deal with whatever the game has to throw at you. This isn't much of a problem in the regular games but if we're talking about romhacks it's not strange to run into something your team just isn't prepared to deal with. So we get to the strategizing part, but that is usually a case of re-configuring your team whether it be movesets or whole pokemon. That's going to take some level of grinding whether it's money/coins for TMs, whatever item for move relearners or tutors, or even just straight up leveling so your table setter doesn't get 1 shot. There's also the fact that damage is directly tied to levels. Pokemon has a lot of room for strategy but it's also a game full of hard counters and runaway sweeps where the correct solution is often building different team members

>>11787089
>your options are severely limited for any random engagement
Not really.
Depending on the game, you have anywhere between 150-386 potential party members at your disposal, all of whom play differently and have different strategies available to them, which in turn can work with other party members and THEIR strategies. And then you add in hold items, and abilities, and x items, etc. There's a near-infinite number of ways to tackle any given challenge.
Even if the hack isn't perfectly balanced and expects some grinding, nobody ever even tries doing anything else. You see the same complaints every single time.
>that guy is 5 levels above me and, erm well, i guess i just have to spend 20 minutes speed grinding everyone in my party
>oh woe why am i being forced to do this if only i could cheat instead
People choose to play in an inherently unfun and tedious way, and then cry that it's unfun and tedious. It's the same shit every time.

>>11779795 (OP)
>pokemon crystal clear
i never knew why this existed. since nintendo did remake gold/silver for NDS?
also according to the dev's blog, she supposedly went insane coding for this hack and gave up a few times.

were the mechanics in crystal that complicated to fit into a Gen 3 GBA engine?

>>11787129
crystal clear exists as a team builder for stadium 2 tournaments the guy used to hold with his discord buddies and it only got turned into a proper hack after it got traction outside of their group
it's gbc and only abides by what's possible in vanilla gen 2 games, but makes building a team easier

>>11787132
>it's gbc and only abides by what's possible in vanilla gen 2 games, but makes building a team easier

ah that's nice to know. i guess that's why some complained about it being "tranny open world" and lacking story.

>>11787043
>>strategy was never intended! it's a game for kids, so i need to play like a retard!

that's only if you're a kid who plays in stupid ways? i literally watched kids play Gen 3 or something a whole team of water types at level 60 plus. he might be autistical and really love water types but i dunno.

way i play it goes something like this: catch whatever cums my way till i have 6 pokemans. then think about balancing the types, and try to get those with better or more jackofalltrades stats so i can have a whole team of "sweepers"; mostly higher spd/attack/spec-atk pokermans. then maybe replace 1 or 2 of them with a legendary. or forget about the legendaries altogether and beat elite 4 with easiest to catch "common" pokermans. grind only if i can't beat specific gym leaders or just want more money to buy stuff.

>>11787153
>watched kids play Gen 3 or something , WITH a whole team of water types at level 60 plus

>>11787128
That is cute if you are playing vanilla or easy rom hacks. There Is no challenge in them anyway.
The problem is once you get to changes in gyms where the enemy pokemon can easily outspeed you and one shot you unless you come with the correct lvl/type/moves/item.
We are talking about omhacks here, not vanilla.
>i guess i just have to spend 20 minutes speed grinding everyone in my party
Yes, because there is a thing called speed,genius. Your type is irrelevant if it can't hit anything before it dies. Even the easiest hacks with difficulty changes have this problem.

Again, your problem seems to be not understanding the thread title. ROMHACK.
And if said hack doesn't have any difficulty, who cares about candies? You can beat the game blind.

Wow unbound is pure reddit trash. Why is this considered the best?

>>11788514
Explain. If it's just the shit writing, idk what you expected from someone who thought insurgence was kino. If it's the fucked gym gimmicks, blame the dev for being a roleplayer and smogentard at once.

>>11781535
>Gen 3
>The same generation that started the pokemon looking like digimon but plastic meme
>Classic
Do gba honenbabies really?

>>11788534
Lots of things
>grindy missions, like "read all signs" or "save 100 times"
>unfunny quirky NPCs and jokes. we get it, shorts are comfy
>story can't decide if it is meant to be serious or not
>NPC lines never being updated & outdated

>>11788557
The inconsistent tone is the result of being toned down from the original which wasn't even edge kino. Yoi have villians burning people alive, fucking over the world to save their unborn baby, killing an old couple for literally no reason and you're meant to sympathize with them. I'm pretty sure the dev was suprised people perfered the main villian simply wanting power over the other retards.

>>11788557
>read all signs
I love how you have to read the entire thing for it to count because the dev wanted it to be as annoying as possible. A sign is saying something you already knew of or saying something extremely trivial so you skipped the text midways? Too bad it doesn't count

And then for 100 saves it is manual saves only. So if you enabled autosaves you still need to save manually for that mission. It is as if these things are designed just to annoy player.

>>11788557
Adding another one
>1st braille tablet
>hint "plate is the key" or whatever
>check around, there is nothing like plate. maybe it is hidden, check random empty squares etc
>give up and check a tutorial
>apparently you need HMs to access the top area and the plate is hidden under one of the rocks
Just make the plate visible then so I know I can't do this part yet. Making something puzzle-ish but also making it impossible (with no way of knowing it is impossible atm) is just retarded.

>>11788159
If a boss is impossible to beat without grinding levels, and then becomes trivial once you do, then you didn't design a challenging boss, you designed a level check.
The thing is, I don't believe that's what's happening most of the time. I think you (and so, so many others) have just been conditioned to hold your emulator's speedup key and level grind for a few minutes in response to any kind of challenge, instead of attempting to engage with the game's functions on its own terms. Again, if this was ANY OTHER franchise, nobody would think twice about saying this. It's only Pokemon where people decide that playing the game is somehow going against the developers' intentions.

Am I going to claim that level checks never happen? No, of course not. I'm sure there are plenty of poorly-designed, trash romhacks out there that genuinely expect the player to sit down and grind wild encounters at 800% speed for 20-30 minutes. And if that's your jam, cool. Go grind levels for half an hour and feel good about it. But don't claim that it's THE intended method for all, or even most romhacks. Some developers deserve a little more credit than that.

>>11779795 (OP)
>Emerald Rogue
imo the best roguelike pokemon game, you can invest hundreds of hours in it and still have stuff to do and it has a good balance between adventuring, battling and base building.
>Conquest Ultimate
i like turn-based strategy wargames and this is the most complete pokemon themed one.

>>11781528
Do you even play Pokemon games? Lol

>>11791776
why are you bumping a post from 5 days ago?

>>11783178
Which Vanilla+ are worth considering? My only experience is with Perfect Crystal.

Can you guys fuck off to /vp/
This also doesn’t need to be on /v/ either
No one but Pokémon players like pokemin anymore man.
No one else wants a “gba romhack” thread going for three weeks with nothing but poktemokhins in it.
please let the thread die and go back to /vp/

>>11792626
Sir please calm down. As you can clearly see OP is asking about ROM hacks in general, not specifically pokemon ones.

>>11792609
Revelation for Emerald. Also Throwback for FireRed, which is made by the same guy but older and not as refined.

>>11792626
>Can you guys fuck off to /vp/
>This also doesn’t need to be on /v/ either

try not posting in a thread you hate, dumbass. do you whine about the endless DOOM threads too?

>>11779795 (OP)
Mariomon is pretty interesting with the story, pokemons types, gameplay, the mario world is quite well done and the post-game is fun too (but it's quite easy, at least if you compare to a lot of other kaizo bullshit hacks), and it received a new major update so i would recommend it.
By the way, anyone here played Emerald Seaglass? It's good?

>>11792835
DOOM doesn't have a dedicated containment board.

>>11793205
It has /lgbt/

>>11791760
Emerald Rogue is top 3 best pokemon romhacks of all time
Never heard of conquest ultimate, I'll have to check it out thanks

there was an old version of Pokemon R.O.W.E. that used to be the best one before feature bloat and bugginess killed it. don't remember the version number but it was the most fun i ever had with pokes

if you're in the mood for "so bad it's good" type kino you should try Pokemon CAWPS (picrel) or Pokemon Outlaw

Otherwise, Gaia and SuperGold '97 are probably the two best hacks I've played. If you opt to try out SuperGold you ought to try it with the player's handbook PDF

>>11780701
The Pokemon GBA games look like crap lol, so many better looking games on the GBA. Just about any artstyle change would be an upgrade

I had this brilliant idea that I'm going to make a Gen 1 hack that replaces every human characters with pokemon and the pokemon themselves touhou characters.
Like, imagine the amount of unhinged shit going on, the most autistic shit you could imagine.

>>11793517
Okay, go make it.

>>11792626
/vp/ is the worst place to discuss Pokémon. Blame it's jannies for not cleaning up all the gooning and mental illness.

>>11793585
I was skeptical but you're right. There are maybe 5 threads talking about the games, and the rest are all softcore porn threads for dumping embedded files. And calling attention to this gets you a ban.
Truly the worst kind of people.

>>11795045
It wasn't so bad prior to 2018-19, but the Switch games were all so bad that it killed all real discussion of the games. Combined with a serial shitposter who makes it his mission to derail any thread talking about older games.

>>11795045
>And calling attention to this gets you a ban.
That's because the jannies not only support the garbage, but create a lot of it themselves. Its what they want the board to be. Rules, even board specific ones are outright ignored, that it might as well not even be any option. You can post anything as long as private parts aren't seen, no matter how obvious it's fetishized or cropped, and project fetishes in explicit detail onto any character or Pokémon. Why they do this on a blue board and not a red one where they could go further I'll never understand.
I watched it degrade in real time. These threads and posters always existed but the volume wasn't nearly as high. Almost everything just ends up as sensless gooning or low effort trolling (by a small handful of people who dont seem to have jobs or lives) that other idiots fall for anyway. And those gooning threads are often bumped by their OP everytime it reaches page 10 with another Pic or just basic text like "I want to sex her".
I blame three factors. The shitty games, COVID bringing in refugees there that never left and most importantly, the idiots running the board.
Sorry for the tl;dr but I had a lot of fun there maybe 9 years ago and it sucks what it has become.

>>11779868
What the fuck is wrong with you retards? Why is everything "tranny" and how the fuck is open world "tranny"? That doesn't even make sense

mods need to autosage this thread so retards stop replying to week-old posts

>>11781450
Did they finish the post game yet

>>11796801
Name five straight white male games that are openworld

>>11796807
What?
I don't even know who makes these games, and why the fuck would I care if they're white?
You people are fucking braindead, what happened to 4chan?

>>11796815
>no examples
>not even getting the point
I rest my case

>>11796817
I get the point. You're a retarded racist piece of shit. Hence you get ignored because it's literal brainrot.

>>11796825
Pick and -ist or -ism and stick to it. This shit makes you look unfocused.

>>11796807
GTA V
Red Dead Redemption 2
The Witcher 3
Far Cry 5
Watch Dogs

>>11796675
>the shitty games
I blame XY for this magnitude of retardation. But no one believed me until SWSH was release, it's these games when they showed their skin for a really long time.

>>11796803
>noooo you must make new threads to make the board fast
no

>>11796909
XY was definitely proof that there was something wrong with the production pipeline behind the scenes. It seemed to get worse with every generation. Just look at the shitshow Gen IX was on release, and imagine the nightmares it would give the kids playing.
Usually a new gen comes out every 3 years, but Gen X isn't coming out until at least next year, so maybe they're finally getting their shit together.
Just MAYBE.

>>11796909
>>11796917
not retro >>>/vp/

>>11796925
read the whole thread nigger

>>11796925
no one cares lol

Anyway yea Clover is good. I should try restarting it since its been forever the last time i played it.

Can we move this shit thread to /vp/ already?

>>11793585
>/vp/ is the worst place to discuss Pokémon
and this entire thread isn't any better off.
Stop using /vp/'s shittiness as an excuse to spread your awful userbase to other boards.

>>11780915
Check on based mods or modding haven

>>11792721
>OP is asking about ROM hacks in general, not specifically pokemon ones.
And the thread is full of nothing but pokecrap. For once I wish mods did the needful.

>>11788539
You can easily tell this post was made by some seething post-mania johtobabby.

>>11781563
>image from gen 5
not retro

>>11797004
So we can't suggest
>pokemon based retro game mod hacks outside /vp/
>anime based retro game mod hacks outside /a/
>movie based retro game mod hacks outside /tv/
>book based retro game mod hacks outside /lit/
>scifi retro game mod hacks outside /g/
>rng using retro game mod hacks outside /b/
What a retard

Just to make idiots shut up and seethe:
>>11779795 (OP)
My favorite mod hack is the one that removes magic seals from Castlevania dawn of Sorrow

>>11793207
NTA, one of your own ilk (who avatarfags as PokeSpe Red) frequents there and he's obnoxious as fuck.

>>11797004
Fucking this, kek.
Not to mention that we already have a romhacking general up, which makes the OPic moot and pointless.

>>11797036
This one is older, making the other thread unnecessary

>>11796991
I saw some obvious pol baiting deleted. That would never happen at /vp/.
What are some of the ROM hackers of yesterday up to these days?

>>11796801
I'm not using it as a meme word, CC is both open world and also has transsexual themes/content

>>11797028
>ds game
>>>/v/

>>11797209
again, no one cares

>>11797414
>again
huh?

>>11797162
What did you think of the rest of the game?

>>11797506
Pretty dull, I don't think the open world/pick where you start model works in practice as well as it might seem it would in theory

>>11797509
Simply choosing between Kanto and Johto would have been nice, with the other region scaled properly for postgame.

>>11797513
I agree, I'll never understand why GF ditched the idea of multi-region games. Sevii Islands were nice, but having a Kanto-based game that also added Johto would've been fantastic.

>>11797520
>I'll never understand why GF ditched the idea of multi-region games.
Gold and Silver started as Pokemon 2, a direct sequel. It was also intended to be the final game. Now every gen is a soft reboot so that the newest batch of 6-year-olds aren't left out.

>>11797525
Sad!

>>11797460
check the archive lol

>>11780915
>are there any hacks of Crystal Clear that bleach back the NPCs
Any official Crystal Clear release before V2.0 has the normal sprites and the original Battle Tower.

>>11789464
many pokemon romhacks set up things like level caps that are capped off by badge progress and then design all the encounters around the current level cap.
thats not even a bad way to do it because by enforcing that static level cap you actually know what levels the party is expected to be for sure and the only way out is to beat the opponent by outplaying.

you whined about drayano hacks but they are specifically designed like that and even set up repeatable fight trainers with big exp rewards close to gyms to level up your party fast in case you want to raise some pokemon to deal with the challenge fast.
and you WILL need to do that because the gyms are designed with meta strategies in mind.

>>11798952
>they are specifically designed like that
So you're not grinding, and that doesn't address the post at all then.

I haven't played a Pokémon game since I was like 11 years old (my last one was Pokémon Gold on my Game Boy Pocket). I have a feeling maybe I'd enjoy one of these romhacks, but I don't want to playtest a hundred fucking different ones until I find the one I like or I'll end up playing none of them. What's a good one that's very well made and enjoyable? Challenging but not insanely autistic

>>11799132
Polished Crystal

>>11797058
One's a general and the other is yet another /v/-tier /vr/ topic that should have pruned ages ago but schizos won't let it.
Also notice the thread is still 99.99% about the gayest nugen-tier pokemon romhacks.

>>11797078
>That would never happen at /vp/.
Not unless you successfully tick off a stalking /vp/ janny.

>>11780701
Worsen the fact the oversized as fuck sprites makes the game feels so much scrunched up on actual console

>>11793585
Pokemon is simply a shit series and a shit franchise. That's why the community that it fosters is so awful; it's simply a reflection of the series itself.

>the absolute state of this thread
Still, the discussion reminds me of an old quote

>Is life so fragile that it can withstand no tampering? Does the sacred brook no improvement?

>>11800083
the tower of babel story is an answer to that question.

>>11799816
I was once banned for 3 days in less than 60 seconds for saying that a shitty loli thread was pedo garbage. That's how I know at least one janny makes those threads.

Anyone know of a GBA era romhack that scales levels differently? like 10 levels per gym culminating in E4/Champion being 90-100?

I'm nostalgic for grinding, I have no idea why we grinded levels as kids, now replaying Pokemon feelsl like you can run from every battle and mainline gym to gym and still beat the elite four 10 levels underleveled

>all these seething about /vp/
We do have the best memes out of the vidya boards, howeverbeit.
https://vocaroo.com/1g2XTOXJeGT2
OP, you should try Clover if you're still around.

I'm doing a Sevii Islands hack demake for Gen 1. It'll have all the Pokémon, areas and most of the events. I'll do a beta with the first 3 Islands and continue if there's any interest. You can even trade the Gen 2 Pokémon you catch to GSC proper (though one way only).

>>11802793
>I'm doing a Sevii Islands hack demake for Gen 1
Why?

>>11802807
I dunno, why not? Why does anyone do anything?

>>11802853
>why not?
The Islands were the weakest part of the remakes. Totally underbaked and uninteresting.
>Why does anyone do anything?
Typically to solve a problem or gain admiration among their peers.

>>11802862
Its fun for me to make the hack, thats really it. If it's not your thing it's all good. Different strokes and whatnot.

>see a 300+ post thread about GBA romhacks specifically
>oh boy maybe someone will have something niche and cool that I haven't seen before
>it's all pokesperg slapfighting
Figures. Anyways play Aria of Sorrow Reprise and Apotris.

>>11802862
>Totally underbaked and uninteresting.
The good thing about fangames is that you aren't beholden to exactly what the originals had.

>>11803028
That's fine, but you (they?) posted 1:1 recreations of the maps and specified it'd have most of the events, so I don't think that will be the case.

>>11803046
I'm the Sevii guy and youre talking to a different person.

>>11803062
Ok, and?

>>11803103
You weren't sure who you were talking to so I clarified.

>>11802963
You missed the other half: people like you bitching about it.

>>11781450
That shader you use is awful

>>11804553
looks like the dotmatrix LCD filter AdvanceBoy emu?

>>11799132
>Challenging but not insanely autistic
you're already autistic if you say that.

>>11799132
Gaia is one of the best imo. It expects a bit more from the player than the original games, without venturing into compfaggotry.

>>11806319
>looks like the dotmatrix LCD filter AdvanceBoy emu?
looks like garbage.

you guys need to play Scourched Silver
it's pretty based and theres a nurse that levels your pokemon up for you in the 3rd town, she can actually over level you if you talk to her more than once

>>11804428
Bitching about it but also naming some good GBA romhacks. Which you didn't do.

>>11807949
oh boy now i don't even have to play the game, it's perfect

So what are the best gen 1 style rom hacks?