How exactly did Nintendo save and redefine the game industry after the crash? What went so right?

>>11795532 (OP)
the best way to put it is that vidya had actual storylines and a goal beyond seeing how high a score you could get. the graphics also looked realistic instead of like Lego blocks. a lot of people got filtered by Atari games because they were too abstract. NES games looked like actual stuff and people could relate to them more.

>>11795532 (OP)
They were selective of what they published/allowed on their system because they saw the crash was largely caused by a deluge of crapware.

A cool robot

>>11795554
This. It was marketed as toy and not a video game machine.

>>11795532 (OP)
Sold it like a toy and made it look like something that should belong on the shelf next to your vcr.

>>11795532 (OP)
there was no "crash"
Atari failed because they were a shitty company run by retards who made shit retard decisions
arcades and console gaming continued to flourish during and well after the "crash"
the "crash" is a myth invented by propaganda that mythologizes Nintendo as some kind of savior for the video games industry

better graphic

>>11795560
this is retarded and false. you really think distributors and retail saw a robot and said "oh hey this definitely isn't a video game console, despite having video games on cartridges, and controllers, and everything else the 2600 had"?
if you actually think that's true you're a fucking moron

>>11795532 (OP)
Good software, mostly. Like, really fucking good, groundbreaking software.

>>11795567
There kinda was but it wasn’t a video game crash, it was a western console crash, and only because Atari dominated so much that them crashing was practically the whole console market crashing
Of course for people playing video games on microcomputers there never was a crash

>>11795584
that's my point. the industry didn't crash, Atari did. demand for video games as a whole never actually fell off. arcades wouldnt start winding down until a decade later.

>>11795589
>>11795584
Computer sales actually dropped significantly in the mid-80s.

>>11795593
computers aren't video games, retarded faggot
computer gaming was never more than niche until the early-to-mid 90s, computer sales are not relevant at all to this discussion

>>11795567
Coleco and Mattel did badly. Atari also did badly.

>>11795569
The 2600 didn't have a cool robot thoughever

>>11795604
coleco and Mattel never did anything other than poorly. they were always irrelevant bit players in the market.
none of you faggots have a clue what you're talking about.

>>11795601
>computer sales are not relevant at all to this discussion

>>11795584
>Of course for people playing video games on microcomputers there never was a crash

>>11795612
the dude that brought up computers is not me.
is this your first day on 4chan? fuck back off wherever you came from, tourist.

Coleco were opportunists in to make some quick bucks from the video game craze and exited the market when the money dropped off, they were never that serious.

>>11795601
>computers aren't video games
Games like FF7 probably wouldn't exist if games like Wizardy never existed
Do consolefags really think PC gaming didn't have any influence before Doom or something?
Even in Japan the PC-88 is historically very significant for video games

Retailersin the US started losing money stocking video games. Everything was Atari which lost it's appeal and Atari knockoffs that never had the same appeal to begin with, so toy stores didn't want to stock them. Nintendo used Rob to get their systems in stores that sold toys so people could actually see and buy the NES. That was Nontendo's actual marketing strategy, they admit as much. No one will buy your product if they don't even know it exists. Limiting what games they released and protecting their system from unofficial games is how they fought the oversaturation of low quality games Atari became infamous for.

>>11795623
we're not talking about historical influence, retard, we're talking about the state of the market at the time of the "crash"
the velvet underground & nico may have influenced hundreds of rock bands that came after but in its time it was an irrelevant blip commercially
keep your ignorant dicklicker shut until and unless you have something actually relevant to say

>>11795625
the five games a year limit was logistics more than anything. NES carts cost more to manufacture than Famicom ones (they didn't have the five game limit in Japan) and Nintendo had more tight control over cartridge manufacturing for the Western market while many Japanese publishers made their own carts.

>>11795630
I replied to you statement "computers aren't video games", which is wrong

>>11795532 (OP)
Nintendo didn't save shit, if anything they made some things worse. It's more fitting to say that Sony saved the industry in the 90s by entering the market and freeing game developers from the grip of Nintendo's draconian bullshit.

>>11795636
Computers are, in fact, not video games doebeit

>>11795638
you know Sony still wouldn't allow eroge, right?

>>11795636
computers AREN'T video games, you absolute fucking retard. you can't conflate computer sales with the strength of the video game industry at a given point because guess what dipshit? COMPUTERS DO A LOT MORE THAN RUN YOUR FAGGOTY LITTLE GAMES.

>>11795640
Both consoles and computer aren't literally video games
They're both hardware that can play video games
>>11795642
Hey, settle down

And holy god the Famicom did have a lot of slop because anyone could make games for it. I don't even think Nintendo had dev kits back then you could probably find all the tech info for the console in electronics journals.

>>11795643
kill yourself IMMEDIATELY.

>>11795645
you still had to buy carts from Nintendo and they didn't have that many content rules in Japan although they still banned porn games

>>11795643
you're retarded
you know good and well that the phrase "computers aren't video games" wasn't meant as literally as a severely autistic person would interpret it
maybe you're actually just severely autistic actually

>>11795656
Calm down, ok?

>>11795668
poor little low iq autist
can't even handle being btfo with grace

>>11795634
That doesn't make sense when they made a lot of their money off producing cartridges. They could have found a way to produce and ship more carts if they wanted to, or allowed certain publishers to help produce NES carts as well.

>>11795680
>That doesn't make sense when they made a lot of their money off producing cartridges
I guess there was a fixed ceiling as to how many parts their supplies like Sharp, Ricoh, etc could give them. Even then there was the late 80s chip shortage.

>>11795532 (OP)
They made good games. Fast, colorful, and with catchy music. Instant arcade-style pick-up-and-play quality gameplay on a cheap device.

>>11795532 (OP)
look up any of a thousand "video essays" on this topic you ignorant zoomer twat

>>11795809
Then you'd say OP is getting his opinion from youtubers, which is a zoomer move

>>11795532 (OP)
What went right is Nintendo didn't start a home computer division and then proceed to get btfo in the home computer market. Also they learned from the crash to put a seal of quality on both quality titles and 3rd party shovelware and to make sure they were sold at the same sale price.

>>11797303
>seal of quality
Didn't mean shit. NES got around the same good games to slop ratio as colecovision did. They knew how to convince toy stores, that's really what's different about them.

>>11797334
the Seal of Quality meant the game would run and not crash or set your console on fire. btw Mattel and Coleco had already had licensing policies and lockout systems on their consoles, Nintendo didn't actually invent those.

>>11795532 (OP)
Literally all they had to do was have an available game (Super Mario Bros.) that was better than anything Atari had ever released to home consoles at that point.

>>11795532 (OP)
>crash
Only happened in America.

>>11797545
Star Raiders, Rescue on Fractalus, Seven Cities of Gold, Archon, Blue Max, Pitfall 2, Robotron, and H.E.R.O mogged SMB.

>>11797612
Archon and Blue Max weren’t even released on Atari consoles, and Fractalus wasn’t ported to the 5200 until after SMB released.

>>11797628
Yeah I'm not sure why Atari really neglected the 5200. It was a powerful system that could go head to head against the NES hardware wise.

>>11795567
This.
There was no crash, only the market correcting itself back to normal.
The idea that Nintendo "saved video games" is absurd.

>>11797634
I'm thinking the 5200 was designed by retards.
It functioned worse than a 2600 and could barely do anything gameswise that the 2600 couldnt do either.
There was never any reason to buy it if you had a 2600.

a lot of it had to do with arcade games getting really solid ports to it so you didn't have spend a million quarters anymore

Good games