Before getting the exclusive with Nintendo for the RE series, Mikami met with Microsoft execs. According to Mikami the meeting did NOT go well.

The real answer is probably money.

>>11799070 (OP)
Remake didn't get ports to other platforms until a long time after
RE4 came out in 2005, and the PS2 port was released a month before the Xbox 360 launched. No sense porting to a dead platform with poor sales.

>subject only thread
>stupid 6th gen related question
>esl
jeets have been a catastrophe for 4chan

>>11799070 (OP)
Sony happened. They were already pissed that capcom had dared to release Code Veronica to dreamcast. And RE Remake to gamecube. I'd say capcom didnt dare to anger sony any further. Besides Xbox didnt sell in japan anyway.

>>11799070 (OP)
Xbox had no philosophy according to Shinji Ikari

Because nintendo are evil monopolistic kiddie-making video game company

Because Microsoft didn't want shitty games released on their flagship platform.

>>11799078
Kevin Bachus was the one who revealed the disastrous Mikami meeting. I don't think the latter has ever spoken of it. Microsoft's Japanese team completely blew it, failed to properly brief their translator and had no answers to Mikami's questions about their vision for the future, so he just got up and left in the middle of the meeting. The Xbox higher-ups were furious and tried to salvage things, but Mikami met with Nintendo before they got to him.

>>11799149
Too bad their flagship platform sold like shit in the end.

At least we've got Dino Crisis 3 and Steel Battalion.

>>11799070 (OP)
Xbox unironically can't handle RE4 like the GC and PS2.

>>11799078
Japan loves to make up these fake stories and that Japan is just the innocent victim. They've been doing it since the 1990s. The common theme is that its never Japan's fault.

>The real answer is probably money.
This is the truth. And maybe a small dash of Nationalism with not wanting an American console to succeed.

could the dreamcast run RE4?

>>11799318
>The common theme is that its never Japan's fault.
That's because it usually isn't actually Japan's fault.

>>11799409
>That's because it usually isn't actually Japan's fault.
It's hilarious that you unironically believe this. Maybe you believe Sega of Japan is innocent and didn't deserve to lose the consoles wars too! Lol

>>11799418
Yes.

>>11799234
It wasn't about sales, it was about sending a message.

>>11799318
>>11799418
Absolute rubbish

could the Wii run RE5?

>>11799534
>Blah blah blah Japan can do no wrong blah blah
Heard it all before.

>>11799535
I was dicking around with a Wii mini and thinking about this today. If you set the original PC release to low quality mode, it looks low poly enough to be doable. The "chronicles" lightgun shooters sort of have that RE5 look, but at Wii fidelity.

>>11799318
>Japan is just the innocent victim. They've been doing it since the 1990s

What the heck?

>>11799848
Intriguing polygon perspective

>>11799318
You say this shit but what is it based on? Especially since Capcom released Onimusha on the Xbox so they were willing to put games they wanted to be there next hit on there.
Same thing with Konami and Silent Hill and Metal Gear Solid.

>>11799883
Where was Final Fantasy on original Xbox?

Where was the Gundam games on Xbox?

Where was Ace Combat on Xbox?

Where was the Socom games on Xbox?

Where was Kingdom Hearts on Xbox?

Where was Shadow of Colosus on Xbox?

I could keep going and going.

>>11799418
>Sega of Japan is innocent
It literally is
While the PS1 would have won the 5th gen in every region no matter what, SoA is responsible for retarded shit like the 32X and fucking up the Saturn launch in the US
Without SoA being as retarded as they were, the Saturn could have done decently instead of being a fucking disaster in the US

>>11800039
Those are system selling exclusives, many of those directly tied to sony themselves.
That's like asking why Nintendo doesn't put Zelda and Mario on competing companies consoles.
Once again, do you actually have any proof other than baseless speculation?

>>11799070 (OP)
If you got just one of those the og xbox would could rival with og psx

>>11799070 (OP)
classic RE was kinda overdone by that point and RE4 was too late because microsoft had shifted focus to 360

>>11799292
And Genma Onimusha.

>>11800401
>>11799883
To this day this is still the only reason I got an XBOX and the only XBOX game I have

>>11800336
>Those are system selling exclusives
They do not belong to Sony.

Sony doesn't own these franchises.

>>11800414
A few of those do belong to Sony.

>>11800415
So what? The rest of them don't.

Yet the Japanese refused to put them on Xbox.

There is no reason NOT to put Final Fantasy on Xbox. Is Square stupid? Xbox sold 25 million units worldwide. That's extra money Square is leaving on the table.

>>11800438
Xbox only sold 500k in Japan

>>11800449
Square is an international company.

>>11799314
Literally how

>>11800438
>Xbox sold 25 million units worldwide
Xbox sold worse than the PSOne. I don't mean the PS1 as a whole, just the slim variant introduced in the summer of 2000.
PS2 software sales were also in a class of its own. Selling 1 million units on Xbox would put a game in the Top 20 best selling games on the system, by comparison the same 1 million units get a game barely in the Top 200 on PS2.
And bear in mind that this was back when porting wasn't just hitting a "Build for Xbox" button in the Unreal Engine interface. It took a lot of work to port games to Xbox, and it wasn't always even possible if a game used PS2 features like framebuffer effects heavily. If you look at the developer credits for games of the era, often the Xbox and Gamecube ports of PS2 games are even made by entirely different studios.

>>11800039
Socom and Shadow of the Colossus were first party Sony games you dunce

>>11800506
I'd also add that half or more of Squares sales pretty consistently came from the domestic market, and almost no Japanese people owned an Xbox. Also, the 20 best selling Xbox games contained only 2 Japanese made titles (Ninja Gaiden and Dead or Alive 3), and 2 RPGs (Fable and Morrowind). Everybody in the West who wanted to play JRPGs already owned a PS2, while nobody who owned an Xbox was clamoring to play a game featuring a spiky haired, whiny, goofy-shorts-wearing twink traipsing around a tropical island. They wanted more Halo and Madden.

>>11799598
lol talk about a victim complex

>>11800506
>Xbox sold worse than the PSOne. I don't mean the PS1 as a whole

Yawn

Are you seriously bringing up PS1 (a system from the previous generation) to compare against Xbox? Lmao.

Xbox crushed Nintendo and Sega.

Not to mention Xbox was only on sale for 4 years and Microsoft were forced to stop production due to a lawsuit with Nvidia.

Stop wasting our time.

If all you have is "Sony is big daddy" card then you've already lost.

>>11800641
Playstation won.

>>11800660
>Playstation
No games these days.

The real winner is Nintendo followed by Microsoft.

Sony just makes expensive hardware that no one can afford, have their online services get hacked, and want to remove the disc drive and charge people.

>>11800641
>Are you seriously bringing up PS1 (a system from the previous generation) to compare against Xbox?
Because the PS1 outsold the Xbox in the lifetime of the Xbox
Making games ain't no fucking charity, it's a serious business

>>11799314
This is not true at all.

>>11799351
Not without some heavy duty optimization. The dreamcast just doesn't have enough memory

>>11800707
>Because the PS1 outsold the Xbox in the lifetime of the Xbox
>Making games ain't no fucking charity, it's a serious business

And Xbox 360 beat PS3 so what's the point? Keep the arguments to same generation you dum dum.

>>11800720
>And Xbox 360 beat PS3
And, hey, would you look at that! the 360 got Final Fantasy games! And Ace Combat games! And Gundam Games! It's almost like console sales matter, or something! Wow!

>>11799070 (OP)
nips hate american products. They only started putting games on 360 (and eventually PC) because they had no choice due to games getting more and more expensive to produce in 7th gen onward, and the 360 being the more widespread platform in the beginning of gen 7

>>11800763
>nips hate american products
yeah that's why they worship elvis, make all if their cartoon characters white and love mcdonalds

>>11799070 (OP)
capcom is more of a japanese company

microsoft was doing more stuff like this

>>11800728
It's more like Microsoft threw more money at Japanese companies, and the Japanese reluctantly agreed. Despite that, the Japanese still found ways to unnecessarily degrade the American Xbox version with lower quality pre-rendered cut scenes that have strange pixellation issues, and other strange mistakes that veteran developers shouldn't be making. Then promoted the Playstation version as the superior one.

If you actually followed Japanese media, you would know this is typical shady Japanese business practices they've been doing for decades. Like when they shoot movies and TV shows. The Japanese LD, DVD, and Bluray releases are scanned from the highest quality film masters available. But mysteriously the International versions use a "lower quality film master" that's several steps below the best version in term image quality.

Then those SAME Japanese companies put out advertisements saying the Japanese disc releases are the higher quality compared to international releases. Telling their fans not to buy poorly done international versions, and to buy superior Japanese products.

>>11800768
There is a tacit agreement that Japanese people and Japanese companies will work with eachother first. And give priority to Japanese first - - - even if foreigners can give them a better deal and it would benefit both sides. Look what happened to Sega. They refused to use better and cheaper Western computer chips, and Sega used weaker Hitachi chips instead for their consoles. Those consoles failed miserably (*cough* Saturn *cougj*). Microsoft even offered to buy Sega several times and offered billions. Sega Japan stubbornly refused, and look what happened. Sega went into near bankruptcy and now they aren't even a shadow of their former glory. The new generation of kids don't even know what Sega is.

>>11800768
it's true though. Do you think it's just a coincidence that microsoft/xbox have always done noticeably poorly in japan compared to the west? All things equal, japs will give preferential treatment to jap products, even when things are next to equal. They will buy PS3s over 360s, even in the early days when the PS3 was floundering. They will go for Dance Dance Revolution over Guitar Hero. They will go for Street Fighter over Mortal Kombat. They will completely turn their noses at genres developed in the west like FPS. It's just the way they've always operated.

it's more like Americans are so used to Japanese pandering to them and doing what they want, so when japs go their own way once in a while it's shocking to them and they conjure up these conspiracy theories. Americans never had that experience of having to pander to a foreign market which is why all those Xbox exclusive games aimed at the Japanese market were made by Japanese developers themselves. I didn't even dawn on Americans to try it themselves because they're used to getting pandered to and don't try to understand foreign markets.

>>11800904
Yup. I recall Japanese game stores even sold specially ordered retail bags designed to hide the logo of the Xbox retail box for customers carrying it home. The entire bag sealed the Xbox logo so no one could see it. Like the Japanese were ashamed of buying it. These same stores did not do the same for Gamecube or Ps2.

>>11800904
iPhone does just fine in Japan for example and they're not buying Xperias or whatever

>>11800904
>A game controlled with your feet is "next to equal" to a game controlled with your fingers.
Delusional!

>>11800904
>Dance Dance Revolution over Guitar Hero

there's a better comparison

>>11800850
>. The Japanese LD, DVD, and Bluray releases are scanned from the highest quality film masters available. But mysteriously the International versions use a "lower quality film master" that's several steps below the best version in term image quality.
Being a Godzilla fan is suffering, Toho wouldn't even let Criterion put out the best quality versions they had.
In a way I get why, though. Japan is a smaller market, so prices need to be higher. The American market is bigger, prices can be lower, and if Japanese buyers start purchasing cheaper American releases it cuts into a smaller market.

>>11801173
Not exactly.

The problem is Japan has spent years trying to market their home video as a "luxury brand" from the 1970s to 2000s. These things would marketed in high end Japanese electronics magazines and electronics stores. They an unwilling to give it up. They want their movies and TV shows to still be considered "ultra premium"....even though the rest of the world considers movies and TV as something affordable that the whole family can enjoy. Japan is unwilling to change.


>In a way I get why, though. Japan is a smaller market, so prices need to be higher.
This argument doesn't hold up when other Island nations (like Britain) sell their film and TV media at affordable prices.

>>11801181
The difference is, people are happy to pay a premium for Japanese media, whereas the British Isles produce garbage that you couldn't offload at fire sale prices.

>>11801189
>The difference is, people are happy to pay a premium for Japanese media
They aren't. Japanese people were buying the international versions of Japanese movies in America and "reverse importing" them into Japan. Thats why Japanese companies came up with the idea of "region locking" dvd players. The Japanese companies still make money from the international version of the movie or TV show selling, but it annoyed them a lot. They want to milk the Japanese people for even more money.

This thread is incredibly retarded

>>11800506
>Top 20 best selling games on the system, by comparison the same 1 million units get a game barely in the Top 200 on PS2.

What the fuck...

>>11801237
>Thats why Japanese companies came up with the idea of "region locking" dvd players.
*yawn*

>>11800039
Where were these on the Gamecube? Socom isn't even Japanese so I'm not sure why you're bringing it up

>>11801482
>Wired magazine
Lmao.

>>11801482
It was mostly in videoclub.
You could illegally rent Canadian DVDs of films that were just being released in theaters in France.

>>11799070 (OP)
Remake was too much for xbox simple as that, it took ps4 hardware level to make a 1:1 port.

>>11801482
>the Japanese did this
nose detected.

>>11801482
Anon...Nintendo literally pioneered Region locking. Your Wired article is wrong.

>>11799318
>Japan loves to make up these fake stories
Or maybe because you western insects are just straight up horrible to deal with?

>>11801996
>Nintendo literally pioneered Region locking.
Yeah, for video game consoles, not DVD players. Follow the conversation, fuckwit.

>>11800039
It had DoA and Ninja Gaiden

>>11803216
>Yeah, for video game consoles
And then other companies liked what Nintendo did and copied it. Duh

>>11799125
>Shinji Ikari
You cheeky fuck

>>11799598

I wish Microsoft didn't focus on the Japs so much, but would've instead focused more on America and Europe.

>>11803519
Americans and Europeans did make, and continue to make shit games, though.

>>11803534
Fuck...You!!!!

>>11799070 (OP)
Probably because Dino Crisis 3 flopped

>>11799070 (OP)
RE4 would have looked incredible on the Xbox, and it could have served as the foundation for all the modern RE4 ports, benefiting everyone in the process.

>>11799070 (OP)
Does it really matter? These days capcom puts their slop on xbox day and date despite the fact not a single person buys those versions, nor xbox hardware for that matter

>>11803534
Americans quite literally have already made every game, if you look at any game made by euros or japs the my are always a copy of an already existing American game. Now sometimes those games are better but regardless America invented video games and we are actually original enough to come up with our own games because we were filled with super nerds through the early years.

>>11801181
Japanese studios stopped allowing hentai titles to be localized because the english releases had more episodes per disc, and it cut into sales of a series in japan. Japanese releases are a single episode per DVD.

like why buy 5 separate DVDs of Mahou Shoujou Ai when you can import the uncensored version and it's only a single disc and it has the japanese dub intact.

>>11803181
>insect
Nice projection. You're posting on an American website btw

>>11806704
Oh yeah. Pretty scummy business practices. Dunno why Japan can't just accept what the rest of the world does as standard. Why keep fighting it? No the rest of the world doesn't accept 1 episode per DVD. Not only is that expensive, but it's a huge waste of physical material. Which is surprising coming from a country that's supposedly all about efficiency and not being wasteful.