This is actually the only Pokemon game I've ever played. It's pretty good.

>>11799238
Also a good place to stop if you weren't a super fan as a kid

Can you stop spamming the board? I bet you're the RE fag too

Get new material

Post it again award.

The "/v/ jr." cult is real.

Does anyone know how to filter subject-only threads using 4chan X?

Bubsy at it again

>>11799814
Why not just ignore and scroll past? You don't need a browser extension to turn 4chan into reddit.

>>11799814
I can't even install 4chan X anymore

>>11799227 (OP)
Confession...this was my first pokemans game. I got to the elite 4 and couldn't beat them so I never beat the the game. This has haunted me for 20 years.

>>11800639
Me filtering it is me ignoring it. Is filtering threads a reddit thing now sorry I missed the newsletter ill do better

>>11800649
The Kanto Elite Four is both among the hardest and easiest. Hard in that the level scaling is among the highest relative to where you'd be compared to most games. That can be daunting if you didn't properly build a team but still aren;t at a high enough level to wipe out teams with one starter.
But also easy in that you can beat the league with Pokemon around level 45-50. Maybe early 40s, if you plan out well,and its very satisfying to beat the game with minimal grinding outside if trainer encounters. And of course if you really want to cheese it, you can do things like beat Lance with a level 5 Weedle in RB by exploiting the AI. It's among the more satisfying Pokemon games to replay for me for that.

>>11800639
>why not just look at my effortless shitposts? if that bothers you than you're reddit because uhhh

I don't use the TMs enough in these games.

>>11800698
I made up a fake pokemon rule that I'm allowed to delete a TM move off a pokemon and refund myself the TM, which effectively makes it like a weapon in a regular JRPG you can equip or unequip.

I think they would have always made TMs like that if it wouldn't be a huge pain in the ass to handle the UI for it with dozens of pokemon to manage. But it makes it so I can play around with every TM I find without worrying about if the pokemon I use it on is something I'm going to use the whole game

>>11800724
>I made up a fake pokemon rule that I'm allowed to cheat
TMs are a limited resource, and are balanced around that fact.

>>11800729
Later games made TMs unlimited and removed HMs because they realized they are objectively bad mechanics.

>>11800743
Considering the newer games are dogshit, it's more likely that it was changed because people complained about having to choose, rather than it being an "objectively bad mechanic".

For me it's Full Red romhack

>>11800743
>its objectively bad if I dont get what I want RIGHT NOW.

Gotta get that Ice Beam for my Starmie.

>>11800771
Meanwhile the term "HM Slave" dates to 2003 at minimum, showing just how long the shitty aspect of HMs infested the game.

>>11800771
Children's game.

>>11800779
HM slaves are a choice. Not my problem that most people play the game in a way that is unfun to themselves. I just distribute HM moves throughout my team and never had an issue with that. Only thing that's slightly complaint-worthy is the amount of water HMs but at least those are all fairly strong moves so they don't feel like a waste like Flash or Rock Smash tend to.

>>11800785
HM slaves are a choice but building a team without the need to balance it around HMs isn't?

>>11800779
I would sooner argue that allowing the player to designate a single monster as the sole HM user was the poor design choice, not tying necessary tools to your party members.

>>11800787
You can still do that in the older games. You know you can swap out party members as necessary right? Oh wait, so called Pokemon fans hate actually playing their games and refuse to train more than 6 Pokemon.

>>11800779
holy shit bro is that PROOF that HM Slave was a term that existed? I didnt know you could even say slave that shit is wild 2003 is before I was even born bro

>>11800783
Final Fantasy VI was made for, and played by children.
Pointing out that you got filtered by the mechanics in a children's game isn't the silver bullet you think it is.

>>11799227 (OP)
Whats happening here?

>>11800779
>>11800785
Surf is good
Waterfall is bad
Strength is mediocre, and Cut even worse
Dive is bad
Flash is trash
Rock Smash before it got buffed? Ew
Defog isn't Haze
Etc

>>11800821
>Flash is trash
You should use it sometime. Accuracy debuffs are kinda busted.

>>11800826
>if I spend five turn taking damage while debuffing I can then spend three turns on setup and sweep their whole team

>>11800831
One to two turns, realistically.
Essentially canceling incoming damage is very useful, and there's a reason it was banned in comp.

>>11800842
Its banned in smogon because they think its annoying. Just like how anon in this thread needs the game to refund his tms because he was a good boy, comp players need to morph the game to fit in their autistic idealized brains.

>>11800864
>Its banned in smogon because they think its annoying
Yeah, it's annoying when your attacks don't deal damage. That's why it's good.

>>11800842
stuff like flash isn't banned because it's trash. Double Team and the like are banned because self evasion buffing can be a bit problematic with few counters, though it probably shouldn't be. Lowering something else's accuracy is generally a poor option from an opportunity cost standpoint both ingame and in competitive. Ingame you can easily 1/2 shot or permanently cripple with status everything so why would you ever waste time with stuff like flash and praying to rngesus. In competitive it does little to advance your game state so there's rarely a point unless it's a bonus on an attack or the pokemon has a super limited movepool

>>11800892
Accuracy debuffs are banned. Sorry you had to find out this way, but Flash is fine.

>>11800785
Did the games even tell you that HMs cannot be removed at-will before you add them to a Pokemon?

>>11800905
it tells you when you get cut
as long as you can read there's no problem

>>11800903
>Accuracy debuffs are banned
they aren't. Evasion is banned. You can use sand attack, flash, etc. all you want

>>11800639
I wonder how you survived 2013-2015 /v/

>>11800929
He enjoyed a lot of stirner posts.

>>11800743
>>11800771
HMs wouldn't be so bad if more than half of them weren't dogshit you don't want to waste a moveset slot on. Pretty much >>11800821 is what killed HMs, most of the moves weren't worth it.

A shame since I think Pokemon's modern solution for them isn't much better at all.

>>11800821
>>11803372
The only real problem with that list is the number of Water HMs, meaning you're obligated to have a Water guy and they're religated to being full of HMs. And even that's only a problem with Gens 2 and 3.
Surf is the best Water move in the game.
Waterfall is *fine*, but always comes after Surf.
Strength is a great Normal move, I don't know how you could call it mediocre.
Cut isn't great, but deals enough damage to not feel like a wasted slot.
Dive is good for the same reason Fly is good.
Flash is a solid debuff that I consistently take to the end of the game.
Rock Smash is okay for dealing early Fighting damage, but falls off real hard.
Defog isn't retro.

>>11803396
>Cut isn't great
cut isnt even bad when you account for the fact that you get it when your pokemon are level 20 with shitty moves. It falls off later but thats the point, you stop cutting later.

>>11803406
yeah, but if the Pokémon you gave it to is still good at that later point (like say, it’s your starter because you’re a dumb kid) then they still have this mediocre move permanently taking up a slot until you can get to the Move Deleter who’s usually only available late game (unless you’re in Gen 1 in which case you’re just fucked). It’s just really annoying I still think having your own Pokémon interact with the environment is better then whatever they doing now. I just wish they figured out a way to do it in a less annoying way before giving up

>>11799227 (OP)
It's a good remake, but no other Pokemon game will ever have the same feeling of R/B and G/S.

>>11803452
>unless you’re in Gen 1 in which case you’re just fucked
Live with your mistake.

>>11799227 (OP)
That was ninja warriors (SNES)

>>11799227 (OP)
It really isn't. I still prefer the originals mostly due to that classic Game Boy graphics aesthetics. They should have did more with the remake. I would have liked to seen them add Johto and bring a return of the contests from R/S. Seeing the physical/special split would have also been nice since I dropped being a fan after the third gen games but always liked the idea behind this change in the mechanics since its so logical. Of course this would then mean they cannot milk the games for further remakes so this was never going to be in the cards. But overall these remakes really are not as good as so many of you claim them to be.

Although I totally understand people preferring them since they do fix a lot of the issues. However those issues are a part of the soul of R/B/Y. At this point the only way I could agree with anything replacing the originals is it will have to be a good enough gameplay qol improved romhack that also keeps the look of nothing past G/S/C but with maybe more colors at most.

>RE1
>Bionic Commando
>Metroid Zero Mission
Three better remakes I immediately think of.

>>11799238
no need to play anything else, really

>>11803396
>Waterfall is *fine*, but always comes after Surf.
Waterfall was just an inferior Surf until Gen4 made it Physical and added a Flinch effect, giving Pokemon like Gyarados a reliable and effective STAB option.

>>11804236
You're not telling me anything new.
>Gen 4
Not retro.

>>11804274
Remakes aren't retro? Pretty sure they're open to discussion.

>>11804548
You didn't mention the remakes, you mentioned a mechanic inherent to Gen 4.
If you want to pivot to the remakes, my response is to play the originals instead and now it's still just worse Surf.

>>11804548
No they are strictly against the rules posted in the sticky. The allowed games are very clearly defined. Gen 4 pokemon remakes that is.

>>11804610
Remakes and remasters of retro titles seem to be allowed, or at least a grey area. I've seen plenty of threads about them reach bump limit unscathed while jannies were actively deleting other things.

Should I play Gen1 with the Kai romhack? It sounds pretty good. (Also Perfect Crystal 2020 Update).

>>11805430
If you're going to use any hack for r/b, use Shin.
I don't know what Perfect Crystal is, so I can't recommend it.

>>11805452
You're right lol, I meant to say Shin but my wires got crossed. Well good to know it's a good option X]

>>11805527
shinpokered, lite branch

>>11799814
you know he's doing it just to make you mad right

>>11799227 (OP)
>Updates everything to Gen III standards. You can use Hoenn Pokemon postgame.
>New mini region
>No features cut

FR/LG did a better job remaking Kanto than Let's Go Piss.

>>11799227 (OP)
>ever made!
Don't you mean..."of all time"? ;)

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