I don't remember the part in Doom 3 where I had to stand around doing nothing for 5 minutes while I waited for the unskippable pseudo-cutscene to finish

>>11801476 (OP)
Doom 3 overstays its welcome by at least 6 or so hours. Half Life 2 doesn't.

They're not comparable and you're a loser.
Though I must say it's funny they added a bootleg gravity gun in Doom 3's expansion that sucked.

>>11801489
I believe ID claims they had the original gravity gun as a dev tool but didn't consider it for the actual game and that Valve stole that

>>11801476 (OP)
they're both boring slops
but HL2 was more boring for me

>>11801476 (OP)
HL2 is overrated as shit and I hate the boring, drawn out vehicle sections. Doom 3 is ok, but way too fucking long for what it has to offer, also the gun sounds are remarkably bad. They both kinda suck.

vr is full of fake boomers

half-life 2 wasn't a shitty game, so...

>>11801476 (OP)
hakf ´´kufe 2

>>11801535
oh sorry, my fingers where not right on the keyboard, you know. I am actually typing blind so shit like this happens once in a while.

let me know if you can figure out what game i meant.

>>11801476 (OP)
Doom 3 is awful. It was only good for testing video cards.

>>11801551
>Doom 3
doom gives me motion sickenss, hakf kufe 2 is way better.

>>11801489
>they added a bootleg gravity gun in Doom 3's expansion

>>11801504
>and that Valve stole that

Half Life 2 had higher peaks but Doom 3 was much more consistent. The vehicle sections were way too long in HL2. I would lean Doom 3.

Regardless, both are masterpieces that stand the test of time and anyone denying this is a cum eating faggot.

>>11801580
>. The vehicle sections were way too long in HL2.
wow, dude, slow down with your hatred.

>>11801530
4chan is full of fake boomers. It's been 15 years since the peak of 4chan. Of course a lot of people have moved on, and now it's zoomers who are mostly here

HL2 is better but Doom 3 is more fun. You wouldn't think it be possible, but it do

>>11801476 (OP)
HL2 and it’s not really close. I really hate D3’s refusal to just have a normal DOOM
shootout, everything has to be spawners and monster closets. The rebooted story makes Eternal’s marvelslop seem like high kino. The boss fights, not a strong point in 1 and 2, are somehow far worse here. The soulcube is an embarrassing attempt to one up the BFG and the artifact is broken.

HL2 is not perfect. It abandons way too much of what made HL1 good and panders too hard to mentally deficient playtesters. But the new stuff is strong enough to stand on its own, the characters are memorable and the set pieces are mostly good. While zoomers bitch about the “lock the doors until exposition finishes” design now it was revolutionary and highly praised at the time.

>>11801489
The expansion was the best part of the game albeit

>>11801476 (OP)
I had more "fun" with Doom 3.

>>11801560
It is a better gravity gun than the one in half-life, grabbing projectiles mid-air and returning them to sender is ludo.

>>11801476 (OP)
HL2 is a tech demo garbage

>>11801728
>tech demo
We get it, you're an NPC retard who can't think for himself.

>>11801551
My second playthrough of Doom 3 was co-op with run always on and unlimited stamina. Hits different.

>>11801476 (OP)
As the start of a long episodic series, HL2 is perfect. As the start of a massively foreshortened trilogy, it’s great. Ep2 really bails out its worst flaws though (read: a non-telegraphed, deus ex cliffhanger)

>>11801731
No, he’s right. Valve wanted to be in the business of licensing their engine because that’s where the money is. The problem is that VtM:B needed to be the poster child for their 3rd-party support and they almost ignored it.

>>11801486
>Half Life 2 doesn't.
yes it did at the vehicle segments

>>11801476 (OP)
HL2, Doom 3 is too scary.

>>11801476 (OP)
Both were great and this was a great time for gaming. I miss these days so much!

>>11801484
>pseudo-cutscene
It's a cutscene or it isn't.

>>11801925
Okay, they're cutscenes and they suck cocks.

>>11801484
>>11801731
>>11801760
Episode One in particular is a really bad example of this. You spend an hour or two hours pointing the flashlight at enemies so Valve can show off the engine's lighting capabilities. Those levels were great on an aesthetic level, but they got old quickly.

If you can forgive the length of the driving levels, the main campaign was actually really good. I still think Episode Two is the best one of the three because the story segments didn't break the pacing, and the features they showcased in the main campaign were used to create some really compelling gameplay.

>>11801476 (OP)
Half-Life 2 is excellent on a first playthrough. By your fourth time listening to "Gordon Freeman! It really is you, isn't it?" and having to slog through the vehicle levels it turns to a tedious mess.
Doom 3 is alright on your first playthrough. And it's still alright on your fourth one. The core gameplay isn't as fun as HL2, but there's more of it and less unrelated bullshit.

>>11801476 (OP)
Riddick btfo'd both of these games.

>>11801564
>Valve gets it's start by stealing from Doom
>Doom then goes on the copy Valve
Pottery.

>>11802395
>stealing from Doom
Carmack just gave them a CD with the Quake source code on it. That's not stealing. Or Doom.

>>11802392
Riddick, Half Life 2, Doom 3 are the trifecta of 2004 brilliance and talent.

But I prefer Doom 3 because it lacked the unfun sections of the rest. Having to use a gay little taser in Riddick instead of shivs and guns is total bullshit. The zombie section was ass too.

>>11802717
Half-Life has literally the same plot as Doom.

>>11804214
Not true at all. Unless every story about alien/human combat is le same.

>>11801476 (OP)
Both are ass. Soldier of Fortune 2 rules.
>no unskippable cutscenes/dialogue
>no boring vehicle sections
>incredible gunplay and sfx
>incredible gore
>procedural mission generator, making the game playable forever

>>11804235
I think people would remember SOF2 more fondly if the 2nd mission wasn't a fucking jungle full of impossible to see dudes. Personally love the game, but that shit's a slog every time and should have been later in the campaign.

>>11804235
Huh, you know, I never played the second one, I only played the first one, which was mediocre. I might check out the sequel now.

>>11804220
This. One has a scientist protag, takes place on earth, and you fight aliens instead instead of demons.

>>11802717
I was mostly refering to WinDoom but yeah HL is literally just quake but with real guns.

>>11804291
>I was mostly refering to WinDoom
Then you'll have to elaborate until that makes at least a modicum of sense.
>HL is literally just quake but with real guns
Okay never mind, you're just retarded.

>>11804298
The original team at valve was mostly made up of the people who made WinDoom.
Half Life 1 plays like quake lmao if you added in level transitions it would be indistinguishable.

>>11804235
>no boring vehicle sections
I have some bad news for you

>>11801476 (OP)
they both suck frankly
half-life 2 gets boring like a third of the way in
Doom 3 isn't a Doom game

>>11804324
>The original team at valve was mostly made up of the people who made WinDoom.
Which is stealing because ...

>>11804494
>Doom 3 isn't a Doom game
I hear this bullshit constantly but no one ever provided a reason.

>>11804324
>Half Life 1 plays like quake lmao if you added in level transitions it would be indistinguishable

>>11804574
>literally every other doom game
>fast-paced action, emphasis on speed and violence
>"doom" 3
>slow-paced horror game

>>11801476 (OP)
Huh was playing Doom 3 today and was thinking about how similar it is to HL2.

Honest non-reddit opinions on both games.

>Half life 2
Pros:
Mind blowing tech-wise for its time
Great physics
Fun gunplay
Great mix of horror and action
Creative puzzles

Cons:
Lots of very long cutscenes.
The vehicle sections in replays
The episode where it becomes call of duty.

>Doom 3
Pros:
Great graphics even today.
Interactive computers never get old.
Survival horror (my fav genre) elements instead of mindless key maze gameplay.

Cons:
The teleport level

Both are masterpieces and better than their prequels.

>>11804574
>I hear this bullshit constantly but no one ever provided a reason.
It's not exactly 1:1 in it's gameplay which is enough for a lot of people. I still put it closer to traditional "Doom/FPS" gameplay than its other big competing contemporaries; it consistently throws numerous big dumb enemies at you per encounter, and it's got a decently big enemy roster you manage with a standard weapon lineup. Top that off with it's attitude towards modding (i.e. "go right ahead, fuck with our shit") and it's very much a "Doom" game to me.
I've also heard how often it gets compared to System Shock 2 in these threads but those comments don't get too far.

>>11804257
I dislike most 00's FPS but this one was a pleasant surprise, it's mostly just pure fun with very shitty gimmick (only a single mission with AI companions)

>>11804257
I dislike most 00's FPS but this one was a pleasant surprise, it's mostly just pure fun with very few shitty gimmicks (only a single mission with AI companions)

>>11804629
IYO what distinguishes “survival horror” from “key maze gameplay?” To my mind survival horror games tend to be the most literal key mazes possible.

>>11804792
play Doom 2 and then play Resident Evil
if you don't get the difference no one can help you

>>11804801
Well, Doom 2 plays well, Resident Evil plays like dogshit, but aside from that you’re hunting keys in mazes and blasting monsters. I guess RE has more cringeworthy voice acting and cutscenes. Is that the deciding factor?

>>11804808
you are too retarded to be helped.

>>11801530
It's not called /v/ jr. for nothing.

>>11804629
>>11804792
>IYO what distinguishes “survival horror” from “key maze gameplay?”
And what kind of "survival elements" are being referred to? I can only think of the moments where shit gets REAL dark and your flashlight doesn't work when following Dr. Deadmeat and his lantern.

>>11804838
>survival elements
*survival horror elements

the real definite fps of the era

>>11805023
the fuck is that?

>>11805023
Yeah I prefer Far Cry to HL2/Doom

>>11805028
Crysis

>>11805032
never heard of it

OP should have put a screenshot comparison between the two games

>>11804737
>I've also heard how often it gets compared to System Shock 2
Plenty of similarities. The inspiration was so obvious that it's crazy.
>Slow moving FPS
>Huge focus on horror
>Claustrophobic metallic space station/ship setting
>You're vulnerable as shit at first but get stronger later on
>Very similar story of entities from space killing your crew off
>Important ally turns into your main enemy
>Audio logs as exposition

>>11805089
Kek

>>11801476 (OP)
Both are great games
Wish I could go back to the mid 00s and reexperience them for the first time all over again
Them was the days

>>11805028
>>11805032
>>11805085
Not sure if bait or zoomers

>>11805181
Obvious bait

>>11805134
>Plenty of similarities. The inspiration was so obvious that it's crazy.
It also goes back to System Shock 1 post Doom 1 with each having varying degrees of sci-fi horror shooter first-person shooting. After the superficial elements like audio logs and overall “space horror” themes, D3 and SS2 play completely differently.

>>11804737
Why did you post a Halo webm.... Oh wait

>>11804246
I played the game once upon release and loved it but vividly remember that jungle like I was a Nam vet. What the actual fuck were they thinking?

>>11804530
The stole Doom lol

>>11801476 (OP)
>>11801486
>>11807467
>>11801560
Wouldn’t Doom "3" intended release on 2003

Doom 3 has cqc corridor gameplay, Half-Life 2 has ctrl + spacebar

Doom 3 100%
It was ahead of its time. I guess HL2 was also. I guess it comes down to your preference.

>>11801476 (OP)
Half-Life 2 is a better game but Doom 3 is a better FPS. I also prefer the tone and aesthetic sensibility of Doom 3. Feels very steeped in the 90s edge that held out into the early 2000s.

>>11804235
based

It's insane you have to ask this. Zoomers so fucking brainwashed by revisionist youtube videos it's unreal.

I don't want to be a bad person but reading OP's question, all I think is "kill yourself"

>>11808730
>Half-Life 2 is a better game but Doom 3 is a better FPS
this makes zero fucking sense
they're both fps games, whichever one is the better fps is the better game

>>11808776
Half-Life 2 has a certain feel of accessibility about it, in the presentation, pacing and the use of physics puzzles that integrate aspects of the game world in problem solving. Like Portal, I would probably recommend it more for people who have little experience with first person games, and I'm saying that as a positive for HL2. I think it's fine as an introduction for newbies. As an FPS it still leaves a lot to be desired mechanically imo. That has not harmed HL2's legacy significantly simply because people are playing it for additional reasons that don't relate at all to quality, tight, challenging FPS gameplay.
Doom 3 isn't going to be getting any praise for pacing or human character animation. I don't generally care about those things which is why I come down on the side of Doom 3, but my perspective isn't the only one.

>>11808748
I don't know why you just associate that with youtubers. Everything that is considered "great" now will be reevaluated by later generations. Like how people thought pong was great and later on people say it sucks.

>>11808748
lmao same, this board is 95% zoomer hipsters now, it's worthless

>>11805089
What the fuck?
Fuck you!!!!

>>11801505
Reeeeeeeetaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrdddddddddddd
You don't deserve to be here

>>11805023
Another grotesque tech demo