Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:51:03 AM No.11801797
Did the Virtual Boy crawl so the 3DS could walk?
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:52:12 AM No.11801803
>>11801797 (OP)
I don't really think the 3D was relevant to the 3DS's success, it was just a marketing gimmick. The 2DS model got rid of the 3D altogether.
I don't really think the 3D was relevant to the 3DS's success, it was just a marketing gimmick. The 2DS model got rid of the 3D altogether.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:53:57 AM No.11801806
>>11801797 (OP)
Ha, I just picked one up with a few games. I think it's actually a fun piece of hardware. Controller is comfortable, and I never strain my neck at my desk when playing it. Warioland is of course fantastic, and Red Alarm is pretty fun too with some banger tunes. I totally get why the system failed but I really like it in spite of its issues and oddities. Someone should make a first person dungeon crawler on this, or port like Wizardry 1 to it as a hobbyist thing. I bet dungeon crawling with 3D would be sick.
Ha, I just picked one up with a few games. I think it's actually a fun piece of hardware. Controller is comfortable, and I never strain my neck at my desk when playing it. Warioland is of course fantastic, and Red Alarm is pretty fun too with some banger tunes. I totally get why the system failed but I really like it in spite of its issues and oddities. Someone should make a first person dungeon crawler on this, or port like Wizardry 1 to it as a hobbyist thing. I bet dungeon crawling with 3D would be sick.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:58:50 AM No.11801812
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:03:25 AM No.11801817
Trying to decide if I should get a virtual ribbon to replace the OEM ones, or just fucking solder the existing ribbons onto the board. It seems so simple and easy to just solder. But I've seen that those shitty ribbons can corrode a lot
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:09:51 AM No.11801825
>>11801813
About 400 bucks with the system itself, vb wario land, red alarm, and mario tennis.
About 400 bucks with the system itself, vb wario land, red alarm, and mario tennis.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:13:27 AM No.11801832
>>11801825
That's not too bad. Does the VB have bad caps and shit you should/need to replace like with other old consoles?
That's not too bad. Does the VB have bad caps and shit you should/need to replace like with other old consoles?
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:16:01 AM No.11801837
>>11801832
The left screen is out on it right now, actually. My friend's gunna replace it in about a week or so, just needs to be soldered into place, and he's doing it free of charge which is cool. I may just have him do it for the right screen too while he's there just to give it more longevity, eventually that glue's gunna fuck off and not hold it in place.
The left screen is out on it right now, actually. My friend's gunna replace it in about a week or so, just needs to be soldered into place, and he's doing it free of charge which is cool. I may just have him do it for the right screen too while he's there just to give it more longevity, eventually that glue's gunna fuck off and not hold it in place.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:23:02 AM No.11801840
>>11801837
Get him a case of beer, bro (if he drinks)
Get him a case of beer, bro (if he drinks)
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:25:09 AM No.11801842
>>11801840
I might actually do that, yeah.
I might actually do that, yeah.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:38:34 AM No.11801907
>>11801812
Well the Virtual Boy is built entirely around that gimmick and makes gigantic concessions to it, whereas the 3DS can gracefully pretend to be nothing more than an extra-extra-advanced Game Boy Advance when its software calls for that. When the gimmick becomes the entire platform is it even a gimmick anymore?
Well the Virtual Boy is built entirely around that gimmick and makes gigantic concessions to it, whereas the 3DS can gracefully pretend to be nothing more than an extra-extra-advanced Game Boy Advance when its software calls for that. When the gimmick becomes the entire platform is it even a gimmick anymore?
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:48:35 PM No.11802884
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:51:40 PM No.11802891
Is the Virtual Boy, oddly enough, the console with a majority of good games to bad games in ratio?
It only has like 20 games but I think none of them is irremedable unplayable shovelware. Is there any other example of something like this?
It only has like 20 games but I think none of them is irremedable unplayable shovelware. Is there any other example of something like this?
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:12:56 PM No.11802939
>>11801797 (OP)
>>11801803
There's now a good virtual boy for the 3DS
>>11802891
Virtual lab and waterworld are infamous
>>11801803
There's now a good virtual boy for the 3DS
>>11802891
Virtual lab and waterworld are infamous
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:58:20 PM No.11803052
>>11802884
I'm old.
I'm old.
Radiochan
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6/16/2025, 12:16:40 AM No.11803087
>>11801797 (OP)
No. It was a system all about 90s VR tech and the VR wasn't implemented in a way that won't give you eyestrain. I've played a few different games on actual hardware and the games would have been good and well remembered... if they hadn't been on the VB.
Ironically enough I think Wario could have been a great mascot for the thing. Wario Land VB would have been a great SNES game. Mario Clash and Mario Tennis VB make great use of the 3D stuff. It's too bad the hardware is just shit.
>>11801806
>>11801837
I don't know how modern LED panels are like with the thing but the original gave me some bad fucking eyestrain after 20 minutes.
>>11802891
Playing via emulator some games are pretty bad, like Teleroboxer. Waterworld is just boring, like the movie.
If you really want to get into the VB there's a flashcart available for it.
No. It was a system all about 90s VR tech and the VR wasn't implemented in a way that won't give you eyestrain. I've played a few different games on actual hardware and the games would have been good and well remembered... if they hadn't been on the VB.
Ironically enough I think Wario could have been a great mascot for the thing. Wario Land VB would have been a great SNES game. Mario Clash and Mario Tennis VB make great use of the 3D stuff. It's too bad the hardware is just shit.
>>11801806
>>11801837
I don't know how modern LED panels are like with the thing but the original gave me some bad fucking eyestrain after 20 minutes.
>>11802891
Playing via emulator some games are pretty bad, like Teleroboxer. Waterworld is just boring, like the movie.
If you really want to get into the VB there's a flashcart available for it.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:44:42 AM No.11803145
>>11802884
It's a gimmick. That doesn't mean it's bad or anything; it's cool of course. I liked it in the Virtual Boy and I like it in the 3DS. I don't turn off the top screen 3D effect and I wouldn't use a Virtual Boy emulator that didn't somehow reproduce that platform's 3D effect. But it doesn't add much to the games; the extra information about depth that it provides isn't very significant on the 3DS and, though it does matter on the Virtual Boy, it could easily be provided there by a screen with a higher resolution and more colors and a faster processor that could more easily draw lots of polygons instead of wireframe skeletons or a few flat layers' worth of true-3D parallax scrolling. It's not like people normally struggle to play 3D games that are displayed on fully 2D screens. These 3D effects are gimmicks. The transition from Super Mario 64 to Super Mario 3D Land didn't rock the fundament of Super Mario gameplay. One-eyed humans are not severely crippled.
It's a gimmick. That doesn't mean it's bad or anything; it's cool of course. I liked it in the Virtual Boy and I like it in the 3DS. I don't turn off the top screen 3D effect and I wouldn't use a Virtual Boy emulator that didn't somehow reproduce that platform's 3D effect. But it doesn't add much to the games; the extra information about depth that it provides isn't very significant on the 3DS and, though it does matter on the Virtual Boy, it could easily be provided there by a screen with a higher resolution and more colors and a faster processor that could more easily draw lots of polygons instead of wireframe skeletons or a few flat layers' worth of true-3D parallax scrolling. It's not like people normally struggle to play 3D games that are displayed on fully 2D screens. These 3D effects are gimmicks. The transition from Super Mario 64 to Super Mario 3D Land didn't rock the fundament of Super Mario gameplay. One-eyed humans are not severely crippled.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:51:26 AM No.11803523
So
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:22:08 AM No.11803708
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:28:22 AM No.11803731
>>11803087
>Playing via emulator some games are pretty bad, like Teleroboxer.
WTF am i reading? Teleroboxer is one of the best
>Playing via emulator some games are pretty bad, like Teleroboxer.
WTF am i reading? Teleroboxer is one of the best
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:40:19 AM No.11803756
>>11803087
You are an absolute retard. Teleroboxer is the best game on the system (unless you're obsessed with platformers then obviously Wario Land is more your niche.)
It's fast, challenging, strategic, has humor elements. Sure you aren't going to get 40 hours of gameplay out of it but it's way more enjoyable than Red Alarm, and galaxies ahead of Water World
You are an absolute retard. Teleroboxer is the best game on the system (unless you're obsessed with platformers then obviously Wario Land is more your niche.)
It's fast, challenging, strategic, has humor elements. Sure you aren't going to get 40 hours of gameplay out of it but it's way more enjoyable than Red Alarm, and galaxies ahead of Water World
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Radiochan
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6/16/2025, 5:42:54 AM No.11803760
>>11803731
>>11803756
I simply disliked the game, I found it to be either too difficult or too cheap.
The graphics were probably among the best I saw, at least.
>>11803756
I simply disliked the game, I found it to be either too difficult or too cheap.
The graphics were probably among the best I saw, at least.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:21:35 AM No.11804073
I'm just glad the 3DS has a VB emulator that actually works. I understand why Nintendo didn't see fit to release VB games for the 3DS VC or as remakes or whatever, but it still felt like a missed opportunity.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:12:59 AM No.11804108
>>11804073
The emulator only came out last year as well
The emulator only came out last year as well
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:19:38 AM No.11804113
No, the Virtual Boy crawled so it could be ridiculed for the rest of time. It didn't influence anything.
The 3DS existed because the DS needed an upgrade and that's all it was. The 3D element was only tacked on because of Nintendo
s fixation with having a new gimmick with every product.
The 3DS existed because the DS needed an upgrade and that's all it was. The 3D element was only tacked on because of Nintendo
s fixation with having a new gimmick with every product.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:43:27 AM No.11804130
I liked the 3D on the 3DS and would keep it on if the option was available. It also helped that doing so boosted the resolution. The lack of its support on anything but a 3DS makes emulation feel compromised.
The Virtual Boy is an interesting novelty, it truly is a hybrid toy/console, and that's what killed it. It was much too expensive to be a toy, especially since you had to buy games for it, but it was far too compromised and limited in 1995 to be a worthwhile console. The 3DS really is the Virtual Boy done (mostly) right. The problem with 3D is that it needs to render two screens to work right, and the 3DS was already rendering two, so it literally was three screens. You can't properly advertise autostereoscopic 3D since the vast majority of computers and TVs don't have it built in to display what you're hyping up, and some people just can't do 3D without getting eye strain/headaches (or maybe they have depth perception issues due to a physical impairment). I understand the idea of looking at a TV and being able to perceive actual depth as the "next step", but there's no universal standardization and no industry-wide push (outside the 3D movie craze of the 2010s).
>>11804113
The 3D existed because Miyamoto has had a hard-on for making 3D since the Famicom days with stuff like the Famicom 3D System. Hardly anything utilized it. The Virtual Boy failed in 1995. Miyamoto wanted it built into the GameCube with Luigi's Mansion but scrapped it due to low adoption of consumer-grade 3D TVs. He wanted to build it into the GBA SP but the resolution was too low. The 3DS was Nintendo's first real success with 3D.
The Virtual Boy is an interesting novelty, it truly is a hybrid toy/console, and that's what killed it. It was much too expensive to be a toy, especially since you had to buy games for it, but it was far too compromised and limited in 1995 to be a worthwhile console. The 3DS really is the Virtual Boy done (mostly) right. The problem with 3D is that it needs to render two screens to work right, and the 3DS was already rendering two, so it literally was three screens. You can't properly advertise autostereoscopic 3D since the vast majority of computers and TVs don't have it built in to display what you're hyping up, and some people just can't do 3D without getting eye strain/headaches (or maybe they have depth perception issues due to a physical impairment). I understand the idea of looking at a TV and being able to perceive actual depth as the "next step", but there's no universal standardization and no industry-wide push (outside the 3D movie craze of the 2010s).
>>11804113
The 3D existed because Miyamoto has had a hard-on for making 3D since the Famicom days with stuff like the Famicom 3D System. Hardly anything utilized it. The Virtual Boy failed in 1995. Miyamoto wanted it built into the GameCube with Luigi's Mansion but scrapped it due to low adoption of consumer-grade 3D TVs. He wanted to build it into the GBA SP but the resolution was too low. The 3DS was Nintendo's first real success with 3D.