Thread 11806965

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>11796348

Doom/Quake/Duke/Heretic/Hexen/Unreal/Sam/Half-Life/etc
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~ Let's post like gentlemen ~

FAQ/GENERAL GUIDE
https://rentry.org/vrbin

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz

Same thing, in video format:
https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXA
https://youtu.be/DhOjleMqwdQ
https://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0

== GAMES/RESOURCES ==
DOOM Quickstart (IWADs etc): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8
QUAKE Trilogy FAQ: https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU

PortaDOOM:
https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
HALF-LIFE (GoldSrc) Anthology:
https://mega.nz/file/GRUCGbAY#RhOiqxnf7UPOiXcJNbRh-prKIEVRhjJaEpAkt34lyZg
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games:
https://mega.nz/#F!3t8nzSIS!947kyMN6Z80f8HS7q2XlqA

Assorted /vr/ shooters, mods, etc:
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA

MIDI COLLECTIONS
https://files.catbox.moe/2hul76.zip
https://mega.nz/file/dWQ3SThI#qYcpa4eGQj6ElyRZgjGqszR59dh4Fq9D3qXYee54kZQ
https://archive.org/details/archiveteam-geocities-midi-collection-2009
https://archive.org/details/midiru-archive-2022-02-25.7z

== INFO/LINKS ==
OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
https://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://doomworld.com/idgames/

MODDING RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37
https://realm667.com/

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==
THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/"doom thread"/type/op/

OUR WADS/MODS
https://rentry.org/vrdepot

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrB

IMAGE/WAD DATABASE
https://vrdoom.booru.org/
https://clovr.xyz/wadsup/

MULTIPLAYER SERVERS
US West: https://clovr.xyz/
CA/US Midwest: https://macgu.fun/

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
/Vertex Relocation/
IWAD : Doom 2 | Format : Boom
RELEASE CANDIDATE 2: https://files.catbox.moe/kl5x0c.7z
Some bugs left. Something about Map18?

=== NEWS ===
[6-17] Drake O'Brien Ovational Megawad released.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/153776

[6-17] Combustion by Fiendish
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/153768

[6-16] Content released, a 7 level MBF21 episode
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/153754

[6-14] Duke Nukem Advance has a PC port in the works
https://www.moddb.com/mods/duke-nukem-advance-tc

[6-11] Doom 2 Minus Doom released
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/153656

[6-06] Leaked Duke Nukem D-Day prototype build
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/11782748
https://archive.org/details/duke-dday-ps2-2001-06-04

[6-03] Chocolate Quake is a thing that now exists
https://github.com/Henrique194/chocolate-quake

[6-02] DBP73: Narcoleptic Strata is out now!
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/4010

[6-02] Showtime v2.0 released
https://cherubcorps.itch.io/showtime

[5-30] Skyboxer, a map-to-skybox tool for Quake has been released
https://moddb.com/games/quake/downloads/skyboxer-a-map-to-skybox-tool-for-quake-10

[5-29] Project Gryphon Beta 1.0 released
https://moddb.com/mods/project-gryphon/news/project-gryphon-beta-10-release

[5-25] Collision Course by Sgt. Shivers
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/153300

[5-09] Apophis by Christopher Lutz
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/152930

[5-09] Doom playable in Majora's Mask
https://thunderstore.io/c/zelda-64-recompiled/p/Dario/Doom_Mod/

[5-05] Doomed Marine released
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/152899

[5-03] Pvt Stone got an update with some more guns and things
https://skelegant.itch.io/pvt-stone

[5-02] ShaderGlass screen filter software is free on Steam
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3613770

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0
TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST (ideally with the [MM-DD] date bracket)

>>11806985
It's fine just shoot some grenades down there

>>11806985
>wet smacking sound intensifies

>>11806985
I haven't seen that many tar babies in a pit since [My attorney has advised me not to finish this joke]

>>11806986
Tarbabies are really not that bad IMO.

>>11807025
They're a real fucking nuisance if you get stuck in a room with them and don't have a way to get out, because then you're faced with harsh reality of being plapped to death or trying to kill them without exploding yourself too much.

https://limewire.com/d/udNDe#Ikau0zNEK4
Hexen maps with Doom weapons and monsters.

>>11807085
why

>>11807093
Better weapons and monsters.

I tried installing Unreal off GOG and after installing the Unreal 227K patch I can't start a new game. When I try I get the error message "Failed to launch URL - Cannot find file index.unr". Why is this happening and is there a way I can play Unreal without that patch?

>>11807093
Sheer curiosity.
Also Hexen bestiary is awful.

>>11807103
>Why is this happening and is there a way I can play Unreal without that patch?
The version of Unreal through the GOG install should be playable from the get-go, just give it a quick reinstall. The newest 227 patches are if you want to get into some of the newest versions of like one or two mods, Unreal Evolution and Project Gryphon.
Not sure why it's happening on your end. When I was running into issues with it last year it was juggling different patch versions, trying it out with mods, and getting my System/System64 folders mixed up. I ended up installing it to a different drive with a different folder name and that seemed to fix my issues.

https://files.catbox.moe/fe5t6f.wad
I made a map and I'm looking for feedback. This is basically my first map, I made one or two before this but it was forever ago. Made this one short and sweet cause I wanna make a bunch of these, but I figured if I got some feedback on what I have right now then I can apply it to the next maps. I definitely wanna make atleast two more, a techbase themed one and a hell themed one. The map is for Doom 2

quake 2 is my jam

Thank you for explaining how to install Project Gryphon last thread - I installed it and it's working great. One more quick question though, should I be running the game through System or System64 or does it not matter? Also, the sword is fucking great.

>>11807162
>One more quick question though, should I be running the game through System or System64 or does it not matter?
I feel like it should but I don't think it does. I've got a 64bit system so I've just been putting everything System related into the System64 folder, just to be safe I suppose. And yeup the sword is amazingly fun, keep your eyes peeled for an awesome one in Velora Temple.

>>11806896
>back-porting the Alkaline mod's Grenade Probes
I have some alternate versions of each Malice enemy planned - for use in custom maps and maybe as part of a randomizer modifier. For the probe in particular I was thinking of giving it rocket launchers while a riot guy gets the same mortar launcher as the player.
Not looking forward to having rig and re-animate boneless models though...

>>11807138
it's ok I guess. cleared it in 4 minutes
the corridor to the southern room could maybe use a bit more decoration? the right side when you walk in is a bit bare

Do you think there'll be people still playing and making Doom wads a century from now?

>>11807138
I have no idea what to do in this room and why i can't leave

>>11807251
forgot screenshot

>>11807252
The switch opens up the tunnel to the left of the starting building.

>>11806970
>Some bugs left. Something about Map18?
I don't remember bugs in MAP18. You should have fixed MAP29 https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/11746250/#q11750418

>>11807257
I can't exit this room, the door does not open from inside

>>11807263
That's weird, the doors should've stayed open. I'll look into it.

>>11807251
I also ran into this problem while playing with Nugget, the door that leads back to the street only opens from the outside for some reason, I could only finish the level because a pinky opened it for me. The door works fine in GZdoom.

Also, I have no idea how to make the last chaingunner come out of his little room near the end or if it's possible to lower the pillar with the armor.

You can also walk through the final elevator's bars.

>>11807273
There's a small button you can shoot near the tunnel from the meat fence, opens the first armor door and lowers it, picking the armor opens the chaingunner.
>>11807138
The rocket launcher secret is both obtuse and useless. The door to the exit lowers too fast, makes the fight against the caco an annoying back an forth to the door and away for a couple of shots.

>>11806965 (OP)
>https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
> he still hasnt added MM8BDM

>>11807138
The line in front of the door that lowers lift blocks the door line from being used, apparently. Even on Boom and MBF21 compatibility. I never quite remembered if they ever meant to fix this, but apparently they did not.

Also the map got me errors I never seen before until I rebuilt the nodes.

>>11807273
>>11807267
your walk-over linedef in front of the door swallows use, you should mark it as "pass use"

>>11807279
>The rocket launcher secret is both obtuse and useless.
My intention was for the rocket launcher to make the last caco easier and also the next levels I intend to make. I was considering if the secret would be too hard to find but I thought it would be kinda like the rocket launcher in the original Doom 2 Map01.
>>11807287
>>11807291
I see, thank you for telling me this. Considering this and the other anons advice, I think I'll just move the secret or atleast the trigger for it entirely. Perhaps a switch behind the dumpster or something like that

>>11807261
Is nobody else handling Vertex Relocation right now? I might take on fixing whatever might be left, but I need you guys to list to me EXACTLY what is left to do for it.

>>11807301
>My intention was for the rocket launcher to make the last caco easier
Obvious enough, problem is, I am confident almost no one will ever find a secret like this naturally. There is no direct LOS to it, even partially, for a clue, and it's too far to hear the lift. I only found by randomly going through doors after already clearing the stage.

>>11807301
So before the I got trapped in a room, it was a decent, like, opening map for a wad, although the resistance was ineffective. The opposition in the room behind 4 doors in particular. There's no reason to trap pinkies behind bars.

Also the stimpacks are snugged on the elevation which makes them float above ground. Be careful about it though it's not as big here as it could've been. They start at the height of the floor at the midpoint but if something moves nearby, they'll do a proper collision check and jump up.

>>11807261
1. replace map29 with what its author sent https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/11746250/#q11750418

2. MAP24: fix medusa or whatever its called near sector 365

3. MAP24: maybe fix switch (line 612) being shootable by shooting the wall opposite of it or keep it because its pretty minor
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/11729451/#q11734603

4. whatever OP wants with MAP18

>>11807332 meant for >>11807303

>>11807284
Maybe he will learn someday and will stop baking these

>>11807332
>2. MAP24: fix medusa or whatever its called near sector 365
I booted the map to see if I can help, but I don't see anything wrong near sector 365.

>>11807350
I see this

>>11807359
I don't see this. Maybe because I run it out of editor.

Looks like a slime trail, so any minor movement of a vertex nearby should fix it.

>>11807359
upd: happens only on software renderer

>>11807307
I see, in that case maybe I'll keep the idea of a secret launcher in the level but I'll experiment with making it a bit more obvious.
>>11807312
I understand, I was a bit scared to throw too many monsters at once at the player so I'll keep in mind to make things harder next time.
Thank you anons for taking the time to play my level and leave some feedback. I'm learning a lot and I will take your suggestions into consideration for my future maps, as well as fixing up this one. I'm off to bed for now and I'll resume mapping in the morning.

>>11807369
>any minor movement of a vertex nearby should fix it.
indeed it does, good to know

>>11807208
hopefully

i want to play alongside a fully voxelized pvt stone in vr

>>11807413
I love that hub map in Pvt Stone.

>>11807349
> Maybe he will learn someday
He is either a janny or shielded by a janny so I doubt it

>>11807437
>shielded by a janny
Can't be, his previous spergouts have been wiped.

>>11807440
Are you talking about MM8BDM anon or the OP?

>>11807449
That MM8BDM guy. As for OP, I have no idea, we don't always have the same guy baking, and sometimes we have two guys that make a new thread at the same time and it gets really confusing.

>>11807440
I have never seen OP sperg out although always suspected he must have

>>11807454
Shortly after I made that post I realized you guys were talking about OP and not that 8BDM obsessed guy.
That's my bad.

>>11807452
Nah MM8BDM guy is clearly targetted by jannies. And tbf you kinda need a sperg to make sure shit doesn't get too tyrannical and what not. I'm sure that black hoe who didn't wanna stand in a bus was a pain in the ass in general too, but she was also correct

>>11807458
Yup

>>11807460
I don't think it has anything to do with "tyranny" 8BDM doesn't need to be on the list. It's not a historically important /vr/ project, it's not particularly obscure, and it's not even that well liked here.

We've tried to play it during SNS and the general agreement was "It shitass."
Just because one guy has a borderline fetishistic obsession with it, doesn't mean the rest of the Doom thread needs to go along with it.

>>11807460
>MM8BDM guy

In other words you.

Is there a list of approved TCs?

Can only vouch for
>Ashes
>Aliens: Eradication
>Hedon

>>11807468
It's a gigantic project that is as noteworthy as anything else in the pic. And let's be honest a lot of the map sets/conversions there are not well liked nor that important.

Seems like whoever makes the OP pic is as stubborn as the MM8dm autist but unfortunately for the autist OP is also related in some way to the Doom general janny so we get what we get

Like let's be honest there's no way mm8dm still havent been added because it went through some rigorous analysis and it was decided it's not worthy but some bullshit like "shadow of the wool ball" is.

I don't even mind giving 3 day bans to spammers but this elitism of "mega man conversion is not good enough" when there's loads of useless shit there that nobody questions

>>11807480
Nah.

>>11807469
yeah I think there are more people here than 1 who enjoy that mode. And pretty much everybody knows the mm8dbm guy

>>11807469
I don't even think the original post with a mega man picture above is the mmbdm guy.
He probably left after that massive wipe-out we had half a year ago or whatever

I think we now have people who carry on in his name. Not that OP is gonna bulge, these last 4 years the doom pic has only been changing for worse as if it's some subtle troll who wants to see just how shit can the doom pic become before people notice

>>11807487
>these last 4 years the doom pic has only been changing for worse
It hasn't changed at all in the past 4 years. It hasn't even changed in 7 years. You're not very good at this.

>>11807513
I assume he's bitching about the actual image being used for the first post. Probably the same autismo-maximus that cries foul if the image isn't 100% related to Doom.

>>11807460
It's interesting seeing you comparing you and your samefagging to Rosa Parks.

>plays 94p beta
>maps aren't even good
>never touch it again
why i'm waiting 90 years for this fucking wad again?

>>11807332
Alright, that helps, but what did anon want with MAP18 again?

>>11807359
I might be able to fix whatever that is.

>>11807524
I remember a lot of them being really fun. Maybe some day...

>>11807524
hey guys chopblock here this is my awesome boss monster i have planned for the wad i took 3 years to make this one frame isn't it just great

>>11807524
The cyberdemon recolor is the key to all of this.

>>11807359
>>11807369
>>11807371
Alright, that was indeed a slimetrail, never seen one do the hall of mirror things with the framebuffer before. Fixed.

>>11807332
Now, what was that about MAP18?

>>11807332
>maybe fix switch (line 612) being shootable by shooting the wall opposite of it or keep it because its pretty minor
Not sure what to do about that, and I didn't know shootable linedefs could be tripped from their backside. Put up a board or pillar above it so that you can't reach to shoot over that linedef from the backside maybe?

>>11807572
idk what it is i myself don't remember problems with map18

>>11800021
You the author of MAP18? What needs done on that?

>>11807586
Going back in the archives and CTRL+F'ing for MAP18 or MAP 18, I finally found some mention of some scrolling strobing lights or something.

That ring any bells? I'll take a look at the level directly and see if I see anything myself.

>>11807593
No problems, someone already fixed it with anon's approval

Alright, this is new stuff to me, looking at MAP18, there's in fact two of them, there is MAP18, and then there's MAP18GZ. I'm assuming that MAPINFO is used so that if you're playing the .wad with GzDoom, it would load MAP18GZ instead of MAP18.

MAP18 has all of these things though, linedefs with action 242 with actions for creating fake floors and ceiling, but they also have a missing texture named FOGMAP applied as a midtexture. I have never done GzDoom mapping, and this is NOT in the MAP18GZ version (I haven't even looked in that one yet), but I wonder what exact purpose this missing midtexture would serve, and if it's supposed to be there or not.

>>11807601
Oh, goody!

>>11807542
>named bitterman
>not bitter at all, actually seems rather pleased

Aight, looking at MAP18GZ, this version does not have the missing FOGMAP texture on these linedefs.
Is this intentional and how it's supposed to be?

>Slimetrail in MAP24 fixed.
>MAP29 replaced with updated version.
>MAP18 was already fixed before.
This was everything left to do, right? I assume we want to also post it on some forums or something?

>>11806970
Vertex Relocation, Release Candidate 3:
https://files.catbox.moe/aoucg0.7z

>>11807475
I love this blue orc so much it's unreal.

>>11807638
gj, anon
>>11806970
OP, doomworld when?

When it will land on idgames i want to replay it again, brush up secret directions and create wiki pages

The Fact that I can make a proper morphed playerpawn it only makes my soul happy :)
https://litter.catbox.moe/nvc39okhflhox8bs.mp4

>>11807735
what in the absolute balls

>>11807756
Autism's a hell of a drug.

>>11807756
Yep, I also showcased (And posted) the rest of that mod
This is one of the enemies from my "little, innocent, and unginhed" unnamed mod.
>>11807762
Ye :)

Here's a monster for that mod btw
https://files.catbox.moe/kvfd27.mp4

>>11807524
muh weapons reskin

>>11807767
Why are there tombstones on the streets, and why... why?

>>11807735
Interesting concept

>>11807796
Those are my tries of showcasing the monsters, many of the failed, but this one is sucessful.
And because yes :)
>>11807801
Thanks, I took the green thing sprites from blaphemer, he was basically a chicken replacement

Was playing Legacy of Rust on GZDoom and got MAP20's ending text after I finished E1M0.
How do I fix this?

>>11807814
>How do I fix this?
deleting gzdoom

>>11807735
>clap sound effect

>>11807814
Update GzDoom or go bug Chickenman about it?

>>11807814
>deleting gzdoom
or alternatively, legacy of rust

For that big hydroelectric dam in LegRust, was that constructed by the demons for demonic purposes, was it constructed by the UAC for water but then the demons changed out the water, or did the UAC find this big flow of blood in hell and decide "Let's harness the power of this liquid flow and build a fucking blood dam!"

do you guys think Graf plays with trilinear filtering on

>>11807843
why not both?

>>11807873
We know he does, he's said so.
That's why its the default, he doesn't want to have to turn it on in every new build he makes.
Not even an Espi award can convince him to have texture filtering set to off by default.

>>11807873
I know graf loves piss colored menu backgrounds too

>>11807208
I think the time spent playing the vidya will drastically reduce when we get fully functional sexbots.

>>11807735
I can't tell if bandicam was used just to add shitposting value

>>11807889
>We know he does, he's said so.
>That's why its the default, he doesn't want to have to turn it on in every new build he makes
How?
How do you see this and unironically think it looks good?

>>11807085
how about doom 1/2 with Hexen weapons and monsters

>>> CLASSIC DOOM CHALLENGE <<<

Do a UV-Max run of 100 Minutes of /vr/ map 08 and post your demo
(Extra challenge: grab the BFG early like in my demo)

A command line for recording would go something like:
port.exe -complevel 2 -skill 4 -warp 08 -file 100minvr.wad -record 100vr08

Current records and download can be found here:
https://dsdarchive.com/wads/100minvr

I considered doing a map from Ad Mortem, since the consensus seems to be that it's our most polished work, but most of those maps are pretty long, and thus harder to record for. 100 Minutes is arguably our worst work, but Revae and A2Rob's maps are worth playing as usual. I also wanted to show off how you can bump the BFG to speed up the level, just run diagonally into it. Here's the demo

https://files.catbox.moe/qkzg7v.lmp

>>11807918
Beats me, but he must feel very strongly about it since its the only thing keeping him from getting an Espi award

>>11807936
>since its the only thing keeping him from getting an Espi award
what is this nonsense

>>11807869
>hydroelectric dam
*hemoelectric dam

>>11807934
Alright, let's do this.

>>11807934
Wasn't too hard, did it on my first try, so no weights yet.
https://files.catbox.moe/c0wlju.lmp

Good level, I had fun with it. Caught a stupid case of "I might need it later!" with the Cyberdemon so I instead of plasmaing him, I end up plinking him to death with the Chaingun, which takes some time, and which is like shooting fish in a barrel (an angry fish which shoots back), but I also kind of just giggle at how helpless he is in his spot.
Would have been better if there wasn't monster blocking lines, so that he could actually chase after you and be at least a little more dangerous. I like that the level was generous with the Cell Packs so that I could use the Plasma a healthy amount (shoulda used it on the Cyber too, silly me). It's a fun weapon.

The fakeout got me real good, got me laughing and smiling in surprise because it outsmarted me, loved it!

>>11807524
is there actually something playable from that?

>>11807814
uninstall gzdoom, windows and burn down the entire house block

post your weirdest classic fps pics everybody

>>11808041
Q!Zone really was something...

>>11808041

>>11808045
Dayum, Mr. Zombie, for free?

>>11807971
Scuba Steve said so on twitter

>>11807934
Hey, it's my map! I did that one!
Well, hot dog!

>>11808059
>everyone is so mean 2 me

>>11807934
here's a blind run
https://files.catbox.moe/kaxd6q.zip
I spent about a minute or two at the end looking for the last 4 enemies lol, I thought I broke the map somehow

>>11808069
Another example of why the Cacawards just doesn't mean much to me no more. Yeah, the smudge filter is ugly as sin and Graf is a stubborn German autist who I occasionally want to throw billiard balls at, but goddamn, that's petty schoolgirl clique catfighting of the highest order, and shows the actual earnestness of their awards.

Are these the smug and bickering assholes which you'd be happy to get approval from? I sure as hell don't value them much by now, and it sure as fuck isn't how I would have honored my dead friend's name.
I love Action Doom, and I love Action Doom 2, even that unfinished old Ghostbusters Doom TC, and I respect the work put into those, but boy, am I interested in ANY opinion coming from fucking Scuba Steve of all people? No, I definitely am not.

>>11808072
It's a solid map, particularly for being made in 100 minutes (or less).

>>11807971
>>11808069
>>11808096
He was probably just joking

>>11808124
It's obviously a joke.

>>11808124
>probably

>>11808124
Probably, but it doesn't change my opinion of him or the Cacowards all that much.

>>11807934
>>11808089
I shoulda tucked that bfg further back

>>11808159
I tried bumping it a little bit, but gave up quickly and just moved on. Again, good job on the fakeout!

>>11807934
https://www.mediafire.com/file/95ao6hygsb40629/100min_8.lmp/file
help my mouse is fucked up and i intermittently suck at my own map. no early bfg. also i didn't trigger the secret sector and forgot where it was
whoops. live and learn. love. laugh. eat. pray.

>>11807542
can we get the carmack model in this pose?

>>11808096
Video game modding communities have always (occasionally) had petty schoolgirl clique catfighting. That's what you get by putting bunch of talented autistic nerds, who are well aware of their talents, into one room together.

Cacoward reviewers change slightly every year and all of them have different tastes and views. I don't want cacowards to get pat on the back from reviewers, but to get more exposure for my wads. That being said, every year since 94 has had plenty of great wads that have missed getting awarded just because the reviewers never even heard of them. That doesn't mean that awards are corrupted (outside 2020 lol). There is just so much good wads to play, that it's impossible to rank them fairly. I like cacowards because it's good way to find new wads that I missed myself. I don't agree with all the decisions, but again that would be impossible for any of us.

>>11808245
>outside 2020 lo
refresh my memory?

>>11808249
there was a sex pest on the committee lol

>>11808256
>there was a sex pest on the committee
i don't think there's ever been a committee without a sex pest

it's a universal constant

>>11808249
Reviewers rewarding each other, while the most important wad didn't even get a runner-up (Akeldama).

>>11808269
Which Banban is this from?

>>11807475
>all gztrash
>approved
No.

>>11807475
>You'll be Swiss cheese!

>>11808301
I don't see what this image has to do with Doom why am I taking damage?

>>11808330
>ashes
>trash

>>11808330
gzdoom is NOT trash
gzcoom is LIFE

>>11808274
>Bubsy
I already know what this schizokino is, but it still gets me...

>>11808398
>jerked off to the ghoul psyker from afterglow
lowpoint for me tbqh

>>11808330
>HEY GUISE DO I FIT IN NOW??? FUCKING TURKEYMAN AMIRITE
kys

>>11808413
>HEY GUISE DO I FIT IN NOW?

To be fair, what absolute monstrosities would deliberately try to fit into /dume/?

>>11807475
Siren is phenomenal. Doom 3 meets System Shock with a bit of survival horror (but it's Doom II still).
https://dithered-output.itch.io/siren-doom-ii-mod

>28 shells in inventory
>pick up box of shells
>50 shells in inventory

fucking stop

>>11808475
>Pick up one item
>it's actually 20 items stacked on top of each other

>>11808483
>Pick up a rocket
>But it's 5 overlaid on each other
This triggers my autism

>>11808483
>>11808496
There has to be a better way for mappers to do this.
Dying because I tripped over 1 x 10 ammo items in the middle of a firefight and went blind. God, just disable those palettes entirely.

>>11808475
Any soul possessing even a shred of dignity or the faintest whisper of self-respect shall, upon glimpsing a surplus of munitions, perform a most delicate sidestep — a dance of restraint — lest they commit the cardinal sin of squandering precious rounds upon the cruel altar of the ammo cap.

you guys should help these poor bastards with making maps, at this rate they will all be dead before the finish even one

https://timeofdoom.proboards.com/thread/85/time-mapping-bizarre-community-project?page=1&scrollTo=1003

>>11808508
Valid, I do that all the time, why was this deleted?

>>11808267
>Akeldama ... drew criticism for its lengthy levels
Every fucking single time.

>>11808497
I fucking HATE it when ammo boxes clip into walls, so that's why I prefer single rockets, unless there is enough room for a box.

>>11807475
If you're going to include a GZdoom game made from scratch like Hedon, I'd also include Selaco in the list. But these aren't really /vr/ related since they're retail releases in modern years.

>>11808514
Post Doom memes.

>>11808661
Does this count?

>>11808698
>le rip and tear
I grow tired of this shit

>>11808712
Not that guy but have this instead

>>11808717
Caco isn't a cuck.

>>11808712
I can make something better, any suggestions?

>>11808720
>is named cuckodemon
>not a cuck

>>11808735
Red demons can't be cucks, only purple demons can be cucked.

>>11808712
I want to rip and tear hugo martin's guts for ruining that joke

>>11808045
I want that shuriken-crossbow thingy to get included in the next episode of Dwell, whoose dick I need to suck for it to happen?

>>11808717
Dear god. Next time I encounter a caco I'm going to see this image. Thanks...

>>11808712
>>11808750
What were they thinking when they based the reboot's identity on internet memes?
Now the franchise's whole identity is jokes that have been run into the ground

Why do the Doomguy punches instead of kicking? Like 5 times more powerful and doesn't hurt. Inagine berserk kick.

>>11808789
Why does he punch left handed but hold guns right handed?

>>11808796
So he doesn't break his trigger finger

>>11808789
And I wonder why doom man he just don't kick them in the nuts so he can paralyze them one time I got kicked there and thats what happened to me too

>>11808796
>hold guns right handed
Not all guns
He holds the pistol with his left hand

>>11808823
what if he right hand but this whole time he shoot with left cause jack off with right

The real specific autism nitpick about the fist that bothers me is how he takes his gloves off and then quickly jams them back on when using his guns.
I can see some people argue "Well he needs to take the gloves off to fit his fingers into the brass knuckle!"
Okay yeah but why both gloves if he only has one brass knuckle?

This is all completely irrelevant but it sure does bother me every time I see the vanilla fist. That and the crap animations and damage.

>>11808829
>he takes his gloves off and then quickly jams them back on when using his guns
I was going to bring this up

>>11808840
Really, thinking about it, I'm pretty sure there's brass knuckles out there that have bigger rings to compensate for gloves or people with hamfists.
I never really looked into it.

Now I'm suddenly reminded of the cool flavor text for Babel's brass knuckle, pic related

Hello? Yes, is the the thread for discussion of DooM?

>>11808313
That's a fun one. Fuck the colorblind.

>>11808469
This looks really cool. Never heard of it. Reminds me a bit more of FEAR/SS.

>>11807934
was looking for these stupid 4 monsters too long
https://files.catbox.moe/olgsis.lmp

How old is doomguy?

>>11808846
>I'm pretty sure there's brass knuckles out there that have bigger rings
Not even for gloves or hamfists, the proper ones have huge rings so they don't get too tight on your fingers and increase the risk of braking them if you punch wrong (which is quite easy with knuckledusters).

>>11808913
12. Which is why the all the door frames are so high. You've been playing as a child and you didn't even notice, you thought it's just graphical limitations of the era.

>>11807934
>>11808908
improved my time a bit with infighting
https://files.catbox.moe/sfd9t6.lmp
why cl2 though?

>>11808921
That's stupid, it's because you're farther from the sun on the Mars moon so there's less gravity pulling on you and stretching you so you shrink like a slinky

>>11808945
>you're farther from the sun on the Mars moon
>so there's less gravity pulling on you
Wat?

>>11808330
I'll jizz in your cystholes.

>>11808330
I love gzdoom. I promote it to everyone. No one knows any other source port now. The future is uncertain, but the end is now.

>>11808750
I wonder if Hugo will have a seizure and die after watching his beloved super hero doom slaya performing impse

>>11806965 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv1D3kXQoZU
found this
appears to be a rom hack of ps1 doom

>>11808330
>>11809005
GZDoom is fantastic - the only real issue is that hardly anyone truly supports its shit.
If its development ever stops, everything built around it will be frozen in time at that final version.
Not the end of the world, but still not the best fate you can get for your WADs in a decade or two.

>>11806970
I will take over publishing duties on Vertex Relocation, because the anon who did the last round of testing won't be able to. He passed me the fixes, but would like to not be identified.

I'll play it myself to see if there's anything weird still, and then I'll drop release on doomworld I guess. And some time later upload to idgames too.

>>11809005
I don't hate GZDoom but it's an awful port for a first playthrough of vanilla Doom, I only really recommend it for modding.

>>11808921
There's that myHouse-inspired wad Ismo's Quest where you play as a 3 year old kid. What's funny is that you still eventually get chainsaw and guns and get to kill monsters.

my fucking S key broke in the middle of a Scythe 2 MAP27 single segment attempt and not only am I mad that I lost the run but the fact that it was the S key and not the W key implies I'm a coward who's constantly backpedaling

>>11809107
Look at him, look at him and laugh!

>have a layout drawn out for my third map
>open it in UDB and start blocking out the starting room
>look at it
>close UDB
I think I exhausted all the desire I had to make doom maps anons

>>11806965 (OP)
> BLOOD CHALLENGE <

Record E1M1 on Well Done with all secrets and kills (napalm launcher optional) and post the .DEM file here. I'm a blood noob so no extra crispy, sorry. The challenge here is more to learn to record demos that don't desync lol.
> my demo: https://files.catbox.moe/ngs1k5.DEM

You can use any source port, please specify. I personally recommend you use original OUWB exe on dosbox-staging.
> https://archive.org/details/OUWBLOOD/ (mount .BINs, install, setup sound/keybord, etc.)

How to record demo on original exe?
> BLOOD.EXE -record E1M1VR.DEM
> select first episode and Well Done in the menu

How to play back demo on original exe?
> copy E1M1.DEM BLOOD000.DEM
> BLOOD.EXE (your demo will play instead of the stock one)
> use dosbox-staging's Alt+F12 shortcut to fast forward

>>11809249
There's apparently a way to record DOS compatible demos through NotBlood but I have no idea how.

>>11809107
Use mouse movement I guess

>>11809309
Apart from OUWB I tried NBlood (latest master) and DOSBLOOD (exe from github releases) but even their own demos for me. They play back OUWB's demos fine

>game is just fullbright if you don't have the hardware for dynamic lights
I get Doom 3 was first and foremost a tech demo, but not having fallback lightmaps was just mean.

>>11809306
>game is just fullbright if you don't have the hardware for dynamic lights
I get Doom 3 was first and foremost a tech demo, but not having fallback lightmaps was just mean.

>>11809316
>but even their own demos for me (can't spell)
I mean demos that I just recorded in nblood desync when i play them back in nblood

>>11809249
>>11809321
tested a bit more, dosblood is fine too, just don't go to menu or pause during the demo, it will desync (in ouwb also).
nblood is broken for some reason

>>11809321
NBlood has a "strict vanilla mode." If those demos can play back in dosbox without desyncs then we can use that as a modern port to record demos. Maybe BuildGDX will work too. I used to use the "spielberg" cheatcode in dosbox to record blood demos but it's not working now and I dunno why

>>11809376
yeah i'm using that but the are not ignored by dos exes and they desync when i play back on nblood itself

>>11809389
>the are not ignored
*they are ignored

is there a way to fix the fucked up weapon textures in WinQuake? e.g. the slightly curved shotgun barrel. this triggers my autism, which is a shame because it's otherwise a perfect version of the game.

Y'know when you unzip a wad file and you get your typical readme, do you ever contact those guys and give them feedback/compliments? Did you ever get a response?

>>11809394
almost all wads have doomworld threads i usually write there or do you mean obscure old wads?

>>11809249
NBlood cannot record DOS compatible demos. It can only records demos that will playback on the same build.
Meanwhile NotBlood only records DOS compatible demos.
>>11809309
Spielberg cheat, for E1M1 you'd start the game with the difficulty you want to record, then type 'spielberg 1 1' as an in-game message with T

>>11809401
Any of them. I was planning on emailing a bunch of authors as kind of thing to mark off my bucket list. Spent a lot of time playing Doom so I thought I'd give some thanks here and there.

>>11809402
Thanks.
>>11809249
Here's my casual demo to see if my NotBlood demo worked https://files.catbox.moe/syreaz.zip I had fun forgetting how to trigger the moving casket.

>>11809368
I'll see if I can fix the menu thing desyncing with DOSBlood later today.
>>11809249
https://files.catbox.moe/xov0dp.DEM

>>11809393
The only thing you can do to mitigate affine texture mapping is to use weapon models with denser geometry.
>the slightly curved shotgun barrel
This is actually an issue with the model itself rather than the engine.

>>11809402
ok tested notblood, -record produces demos that are not detected but spielberg works fine
don't understand how -playback works tho, i copy to BLOOD000.DEM to play
>>11809430
yeah works on dos, notblood, gg
>>11809434
gg, i like your ways of dealing with monsters, i see you have lots of blood experience

>>11809468
>don't understand how -playback works tho, i copy to BLOOD000.DEM to play
It's a bug https://github.com/NBlood/NBlood/issues/508
Use the `demo filename.dem` command in console to play demos, and spielberg cheat to record for NotBlood.
Currently NotBlood is the only source port that can record DOS compatible demos.

It's time for Wednesday Night Wipeout!
Come play some SRB2Kart!
WE ARE STILL ON NEPTUNE 2.4.3!

How to join (The short and easy way):
Download the All-in-one repack: https://mega.nz/file/JrsETLaJ#Ny7E1Uu7ftp-2Yojpdj04Rc5xucKgV1V6H2DPboPzLA
Extract it to its own folder (NOT the desktop or program files)
Run "SRB2Kart-Neptune (Connect to vrkart).bat" and wait for any missing files to download in-game
DO NOT run "srb2kart.exe" and expect to be able to join the server.
If you don't have a 64-bit machine/OS for whatever reason: Copy the contents of the 32-bit folder into the main folder

How to join (The longer and harder way):
Download version 1.6 of the game: https://github.com/STJr/Kart-Public/releases/download/v1.6/srb2kart-v16-Installer.exe
Get the custom client we use: https://codeberg.org/NepDisk/srb2k-neptune/releases/tag/Neptune2.4.3
Get the mods either automatically in-game or at: https://macgu.fun/repo/srb2kart/
Connect to macgu.fun (either use connect in console or "specify ipv4 address" under Multiplayer)

>I HAVE TO BITCH FAST AND TEXT CHAT TOO SLOW
We also have a Mumble server!
Address: 51.161.34.159
Port: default
Password: endoom

>I heard this game supports proximity chat, are we using that?
No.

Pro tips: https://pastebin.com/YV6biqxq
(This is out of date and written for a different server, but it still has a lot of useful information.)

Okay so Quick Run-Down:
> NBlood demos get ignored by blood.exe
> NBlood demos desync in NBlood of all things
> NotBlood demos will playback in anything

To record demo:
> Use NotBlood,
> Start new game at the difficulty you want,
> Press T and type "spielberg E M" where E is the episode number and M is the map number (e1m1 is spielberg 1 1)
> Demo will appear in folder as "e1m1.dem" or whichever level it was

To play demo:
> Open console and type "demo filename.dem". For example "demo e1m1.dem"
> You can also rename the demo "blood000.dem" to make it automatically play when you start the game

did i miss anything

>>11809509
good, thanks anon
>>11809249 i'll tag my post

>>11809249
e1m1 extra crispy any% in 2:12
https://files.catbox.moe/sol3ch.zip

>>11809509
I should mention that you can have all kind of wonky things in the NotBlood settings for when you play casually (like projectile bullets), and when you record a demo it will automatically make all settings vanilla-compatible for the purposes of recording

>>11809527
you sure you sent the right demo?

>>11809320
At least they let you play the game cough cough Dark Ages cough

>>11809548
dang it wtf i sent the starting demo

>>11809249
extra crispy any% 2:06
https://files.catbox.moe/4ove0w.DEM

>>11809574
wtf, my demo doesn't play back with "demo x.dem"
but if I rename it to blood000.dem it autoplays just fine

>>11809580
The demo plays fine (for me) with NotBlood.

>>11809574
>>11809580
gg
plays back for me in notblood with "demo 4ove0w.DEM" or with -playback 4ove0w.DEM in dos

>>11809635
>>11809642
sorry it works fine now, i think i forgot to type .dem at the end

>>11809249
> I'm a blood noob so no extra crispy
extra crispy is nothing difficult actually if I just not use the main entrance
https://files.catbox.moe/s8za5u.DEM

>>11809434
>I'll see if I can fix the menu thing desyncing with DOSBlood later today.
I see you just disabled pausing in menu all together and re-used pause button to stop the demo. I guess I should just use dosbox's pause functionality

>>11809698
It's a temp fix for now as letting the game state pause creates a desync and I haven't tracked down why. If I do, I'll fix it correctly and reenable pausing.

is poogers worth playing or is it purely a meme wad

I remember playing a Doom wad where some maps were set in like brazilian towns with individual villas you could enter, I'm pretty sure it was made by a brazilian guy (not the brutal dumb guy though), also another level I remember had some underwater caves you needed to dive in, that's all I remember other than the typical brazilian villas. Any idea what wad could it be?

Weird question but does anyone know if your doom (1993) saves carry over into the doom eternal DLC?

>>11808514
Another retarded admin who thinks only literal Satan would ever want privacy in the internet and use a VPN.

>>11809735
meme wad, it also has that fascist hate symbol pepe so dont play it

>>11809735
meme wad, it also has that overused reddit meme pepe so dont play it

>>11809735
It's a meme mapset yeah, but there's a surprising amount of effort put into it. That said, difficulty-wise it's aimed at speedrunners and crazy buggers who eat challenge maps for breakfast, there's a lot of crazy-hard slaughter and platforming maps in there, so your milage will vary.

>>11809774
pffff

>>11809735
It is full of extremely mean platforming. I personally don't like this kind of stuff and last time I got it in MAP08 of Shapeshifters I got mad in few minutes and idclipped through it.

>>11808274
>>11808410
Is it AMC Squad? Is it worth trying if I want a Build-style soup mod?

>make megawad
>put secret levels immediately after the final level of an episode/chapter so continuous players can't carry any weapons/ammo from the secret levels forward
>make the second secret level a 1+ hour juggernaut with by far its most difficult fight at the very end
How to make the player skip the secret levels.
Bad mapping.
Yes, you know what .wad I'm talking about.
Bad mapping.

>Pain Elementals
Bad mapping.
>Platforming
Bad mapping.
>Damaging floors
Bad mapping.

>>11809249
>ctrl + f blood
>see post with many replies
>BLOOD CHALLENGE
>its about recording

>>11809946
The real challenge was the VCR we programmed along the way.

>I got killed.
Bad mapping.

>I played Doom
Bad mapping.

>>11809771
Do you have id+ or ZeniMax Live?

>>11809503
ggs

>>11809989
No? Im playing on PS5. I just beat eternal and got pretty far into the version of ultimate doom on the fortress computer. I was about to start the DLC and just wanted to know if I'll have to keep switching between save files to keep playing from where I left off.

>>11808096
like >>11808245 said modding & fangame communities are always like that because they're all a bunch of unprofessional spazes. i can go on about...
>arthmoor making hidden changes to his unofficial patches of bethesda games and going after people who undo his changes.
>HL2: overcharge blocking critics with a modified dll file that legally makes it malware according to steam & moddb's TOS.
>the maker of helms deep reborn for L4D2 adding malware & scrpits that can fuck up your install and hijack whatever private servers you have. (fun fact: valve never banned him)
>sonic gather battle putting in malware DRM to prevent people from "stealing" his sprites which almost caused sega to bring the hammer down on the sonic fangame community.
>the time modders got pissy nexusmods because the nexus wouldn't let them take their balls and go home so they did exactly what the nexus knew they were gonna do and fucked off to their discord safe spaces.
>the author of the civil war overhaul for skyrim quitting the internet because trump won.
>the NVSE team getting into it with someone over suspected stolen code.
>graf almost quitting the internet because a map he hated won cacowards.
...but that could take up an entirely unrelated thread. and you'd think with the rise/advent of AI slop that most of these faggots would see it as a wake up call to grow the fuck up but here we are, sites like nexus, moddb & gamebananna are practically adult daycares for these manchildren.

CHALLENGE:
>You are placed in a cage with a bear
>The bear has been genetically modified to only become aggressive if you can't provide one, single, rational argument for why the Super Nailgun isn't a straight upgrade to the standard Nailgun
>you cannot use "progression", lack of skill (e.g. the SN fires faster so it's harder for a new player to control ammo output), or multiplayer netcode quirks as reasons -- if you do, the bear will also anally rape you before eating you alive
>If you survive, you will be released and given a real functioning replica of the Nailgun, Ranger's helmet, and also two really hot girlfriends
A bear is about to make you his bitch.

>>11809101
It's fine if you know to set it to Doom defaults. It should have an option on first boot to set it to some different presets.
Classic
Enhanced
Modern

something like that.

>>11810016
It consumes two nails per shot instead of one, making the SNG objectively inferior to the NG for hitting switches.

>>11809503
ggs!

>>11810016
Standard Nailgun reminds of the Nerf Pulsator I had as a kid (its similarities to the Nailgun were why I wanted one in the first place)

>I didn't get killed
Bad mapping.

Doom 2 is too fucking long

>>11808021
You actually missed 4 kills, but still managed to technically get 100% thanks to archviles.

>>11808182
You know, I think the bfg is fine as an optional thing since the map is so short either way. I thought it might've been intentional in fact. A lot of people seem to be confused about the green armor ambush, though. I usually just instinctively grab armor as soon as I see it but I guess that's not optimal.

>>11808925
I somehow didn't notice all the existing demos for the wad are recorded with cl9, but it worked out anyway. The original rules dictated boom or vanilla, so idk.

>>11810042
>I usually just instinctively grab armor as soon as I see it but I guess that's not optimal.
Same, but yeah, if you grab green armor when you have blue armor it drops it's efficiency.
Should've made the trap something more universal like a pile of armor/health bonuses or something.

>>11809698
After further looking into this, using pause triggers a demo desync for the DOS 1.21 release, because the pause functionality works while recording the demo, but is forcefully disabled on playback (so it can play while the menu is open).
I've tweaked pausing for DOSBlood so it won't cause any broken demos.
Thanks for the reports.

>>11810016
What >>11810024 said.
It always goes BANG BANG and not just BANG. Also, I like the weapon model better.
Now give me my helmet and nailgun. I do not need the prostitutes.

>>11810024
lack of skill fallacy, it does twice as much damage so the output is the same in combat and there's no reason to use either gun for hitting switches when the axe has no cost and the standard nailgun fires more slowly even if you want to waste precious nails instead of shells

I just learned that Duke!ZONE II is one of the official expansions of Duke Nukem 3D. In addition to containing 500 shovelware levels, it also contains 3 new episodes made by a company. Is it any good?

>>11810103
>axe has no cost
Axe has no range.

>>11810016
Super Nailgun does not look as cool as normal Nailgun.

>>11809735
meme wad, it also has the funny twitch chat frog, so please play it

>>11809209
Don't give up, you fucking bitch.

>>11810041
Making your game really really long was the style at the time. Even after 20 years I still can't bring myself to replay Wolf 3D.

>>11810016
a super nailgun with quad damage will always gib a zombie and prevent you from getting his ammo drop

>>11810137
the zombie grunts, I mean. not the actual zombies, those don't drop ammo

>>11810042
>You actually missed 4 kills, but still managed to technically get 100% thanks to archviles.
Huuuh? Where were the last ones hiding? I found all secrets and items, and I killed everything I saw.

>>11810132
Wolfenstein 3D is at least divided up into episodes. You might like the Second Encounter version of the Wolfenstein 3D campaign more, it compacts all six episodes down into 30 levels (29 if you exclude the optional secret level), throwing in some Spear Of Destiny bosses, and adds the bazooka and flamer, with an ammo backpack upgrade too.

>>11810108
It's not irredeemable, but it's hardly golden either. Give them a try and see what you think.

>>11810103
Other guns weren't part of the question. The only requirement was to provide an angle for NG over SNG, which I did. Don't be a sore loser.

>>11810141
That's what I mean when I said
> A lot of people seem to be confused about the green armor ambush
If you don't know, you can enable level stats (#kills #secrets #armor) in most ports that record demos (dsda, woof, nugget). Pretty much anyone doing max runs will use it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnymFEW_B8Q

>Doom Comic '96 dev gave Doomguy the Deckard Blaster
Kinda sick, honestly.

>>11807934
https://files.catbox.moe/w2vmsm.lmp

>>11810189
oh no, I forgot to start a new demo after each death. Welp, the last run was the successful one.

>>11810108
The new episodes were made by the team that did 'Duke: Nuclear Winter' (Simply Silly Software). The overall quality of these episodes is worse than the entirety of 'Nuclear Winter' desu.

>>11810148
3D is just such a slog with how repetitive it gets.

Give me some hidden gem '90s WADs.

>>11810273
If you're the type of person who enjoys sifting through D!Zone and Maximum Doom slop to see what people were making back then, check out Allroy.

>>11808905
Yeah, there's definitely a bit of FEAR in there too. I highly recommend it. I think the finished version will be really special. There's a mod/weapons only version as well although it's hard to find mapsets that fit its dark sci-fi aesthetics.

>>11806965 (OP)
will there ever be a 400 minutes of /vr/?

>>11810471
WAIT 400 already exists
i mean 500

>>11810471
If you start it, anon, they will come.
Heh

>>11809774
i dun geddit

>>11809771
>>11809995
DLCs have its own set of save files. If you want to continue playing original DOOM in-game in Fortress of Doom, just go back to your base game save.

>>11810129
But the map sucksssss
I'll come up with something new. I know what I want to make, I just need to make it make sense.

>>11810525
can I have your stuff?

>>11810545
You mean the map layout I already made? Sure, I'll post it later.
I'll try and think of something else in the meantime. I know what I want (a map that's basically traversing a ruined ancient town like Pompeii) but I want to link it to the last map, and come up with a "story" to guide the player through it.
I thought I had something compelling, but I think the idea I did have is just too complex for me to do it any justice.

Serious Engine is open source. Has anyone here tried fucking with it and making mods or something? I'm interested in trying.

boomguy here

after beating episode 1 of the OG doom i decided it was just too fuckin easy and decided to blow the $3 to get delta touch so i could get zdoom going and it was totally worth it

there's negative accel in the mobile bethesda port for some fucked up reason, now when i flick a 180 i actually flick a 180

turned autoaim, mouse up/down, and jumping off and enabled -fast and i'm gonna replay ep 1 again

the only mod i'm using is andrew hushult's music wad beacuse it's basically the official doom soundtrack now and the midi that comes with delta touch is shitty

i had one question though - how do you calculate the FOV in gzdoom? if i want a 120 widescreen fov do i put in 120 or some other number (phone screen is 13:6 and i plan on picking up a cheap 190x1080 120hz monitor next month so my screen doesn't look like this)

now that i realize my mouse for my phone actually is pretty accurate i might figure out how the hell to get quake running on this thing and see if the NA QW scene still exists

Is there any footage or screens of Duke Forever on the Quake 1 engine?

>>11810594
"Stop being so creative" might be the most Tim Willits thing Tim Willits has ever said.

>>11810591
hey, umm, why isn't my config for dmflags saving and why doesn't +dmflags do anything when i try to use it at the command line? what's up with this?

>>11807921
Hexen monsters are garbage.
Hexen playerclasses/weapons/items + Doom monsters would be an interesting project and I thought about creating a dedicated mapset for it, but it would require me to rebalance both sides of the equation, and I have no idea how to modify Hexen weapons without outright recompiling the entire source port to change the functions responsible for handling them.
Perhaps I could settle for Mage only project for now since with him I could get away with changing only the projectile properties.

>>11810692
>Hexen playerclasses/weapons/items + Doom monsters would be an interesting project
That actually exists if you want to take a look, though I remember the Doom bestiary accompanying Hexen's rather than replacing it entirely.
I remember it playing better than mid-00s ZDoom ought to... but it was 20 years ago.

>https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/hexen/p-r/roc

>>11807975
That sounds like a fun map. A hell/techbase of a dam with blood instead of water. Pressing buttons to raise and lower blood levels. When the blood gets too low a cyberdemon is seen waiting at the bottom of all that blood. I'm just spitballing here.

>>11809394
I never joined any doom sites or forums. I hope I will never have to.

Also a watercolors wad would be cool. I remember someone made crayon-ish looking textures for a sleepy/dream themed wad and posted updates here.

>>11809394
I remember sending Lainos an e-mail once to tell him awesome I thought Overdose : Doxylamine Moon was.

>>11807921
It's called Wrath of Cronos.

>>11810517
Thanks

>>11809872
Different anon here, I liked AMC Squad.

>>11809872
I don't THINK that's AMC.

>>11810924
I'm more annoyed at the filename than anything else.

>>11810924
This image gave me cancer.

>>11810545
here you go
this is as far as I had got with the current map idea
I'm trying a technique I saw someone describe on YT where you write out what you want the player to be doing for the level and see if I can get some ideas from that because I'm giving up on this iteration.

>>11810594
>Tim

Of fucking course

>>11810924
What a stupid waste of my time.

I need a palette cleanser after that shitass image that other Anon posted.

>>11810959
>baron's bowling ball isn't a green fireball

What are the best Duke Nukem 3D maps or episodes of the last 5 years, that play like the original game and not something like shitty battlelord/tank spam everywhere?

>>11810961
He's a demon, but he's not rude, Anon. He's here to enjoy bowling like everyone else, hucking fireballs would damage the equipment.
But I could paint his bowling ball green if that helps.

i need help
im stuck on map 15 of plutonia, what do?

>>11810981
Shoot at it till it dies.

>>11810981
Do everything exactly like UV Max speedruns do.

>>11810965
what about Brutal Doom doe

Gameplay mods of (you)r choice to play with Project Malice?

>>11811050
It plays real well with Deathstrider, almost perfectly so when I played both with Hell On Earth SP. Not a "gameplay mod" but PM also paired well with Unloved (might need a patch), Consolation Prize, and Hellbound.

>>11811107
You're nowhere close to the other shitters we've had in the past. Stay in your lane.

in gzdoom if you play with sp respawning on, and a mod or iwad with classes like Hexen. after you save and restart the game and load save and dies, you respawn as the first class, breaking the game as you cant pick up items etc.

someone reported it on bug reports, Graf said it was intentional and closed the report.

???

>>11811114
Graf is cool, leave him alone.

>>11808661
here's a classic

>>11810859
No problem.

>>11811125
Still holds pretty true after all these years.

>>11811107
lol'd

>>11811110
I find Dumbguy inoffensive.

Why does Caleb compliment the smell of an outdoor toilet?

>>11810594
Looks like they didn't knew how to modify the engine for shit

>>11810981
>what do?
Learn the secrets. This is one of those rare maps that you need to know the secrets if you're going to pistol start it.

Finished working on the guns for an unnaounced MBF21 project.

>https://streamable.com/dovrhr

I remain on call if any /VR/ projects need cool guns.

>>11810924
I didn't read it.

>>11811331
The animations are smooth and nice, but pretty unremarkable weapons choices, especially the bolt action sniper that looks out of place with the rest of the modern/futuristic ones. That grenade launcher with ak body is kinda goofy, too. I am also convinced the flamethrower will suck, much like 99% of all flamethrowers in fps games.

>>11811331
Pretty nice. The softest spot is for that SSG reload: You managed to make it look "weighty", very neat.

>>11811350
The intention was to not be too out there, but the Kar98 is there because it has nice, easy to use frames. I like it and the project lead likes it, so it stays.

The flamethrower fucks cybies up, that's all I need to say.

>>11811360
Thanks anon, I should have mod version of this up whenever the project is anounced. You can play Doomed Marine if you want to get a similar feel, this is built on top of that.

now Poison Ivy II, that's a map

>>11811331
They look great, love the shotty/ssg sounds.

>>11810975
i found the next thread challenge

The chaingun is fun. This is really making me wish eternal let us have more ammo for it.

>>11810756
>Also a watercolors wad would be cool. I remember someone made crayon-ish looking textures for a sleepy/dream themed wad and posted updates here.
Yeah that was me. It's still WIP.

>>11811050
Deathstrider, Red Spiral '93, Omerta, Doom Incarnate, Disaster Jester: Classified(requires changing some sprite names), BYOC's Ash(might be sprite overlap, dunno, I have a standalone Ash I made myself), High Noon Drifter, Lt. Typhon, EW: Typhon, Pvt. Stone, Genocide Device Echidna, Hell-Forged weapons only, Naku-Naru 1 and 2, Trailblazer, the Hearts of Demons mods, Ashes weapons.

Really PM just kinda goes with everything.

>>11811080
>Unloved (might need a patch)

Absolutely does. I updated it a while back, but it's probably outdated again for current PM. I haven't played Doom in a long while.

hi, now that i graduated from the 7/10 bethesda mobile port now that i have delta touch and gzdoom set up

i was wondering if you could recommend two types of mods

>a lighting and/or texture mod for doom.wad/doom2.wad but mostly lighting
>something that improves the AI that isn't brutal doom, i want the enemies to chase me down, flank me, and not act braindead when i sneak up on them
>who am i quoting?

if there's no good AI mod, is there a mod a mod to make the monsters move even faster than fast mode, or have better accuracy and shit?

also, do you guys ever do coop nights? i'd be down for some custom wad coop on the east coast somewhere

>>11811472
While it's not quite what you describe in terms of strategy, Babel has monsters synchronizing attacks and reacting with fear to their friends being gibbed.
We do play random wads/mods in Zandronum on Sundays, usually co-op.

>>11811483
do you run version 3.2? that's what's built into delta touch it seems

i'm not playing with touch controls btw, i have a bluetooth m+k and i'm gonna get a cheap 120hz monitor and wireless cell phone charger over the next month or 2

are there console commands i can use to make the game go turbo mode? that might be amusing

i gotta say, since i last used zdoom in 2009-2010 or so, the new settings in the menus to improve the lighting and textures look pretty cool. i normally make the graphics look like software mode

i did set GL_NEAREST though because that's always been one of my quirks, if an FPS will let me do it i do it, i don't know why but sharp pixelated textures improve my aim, it's what i do instead of picmip

I still fail to understand how the chaingun arm from the X-men Quake1 mod works by consuming 2 ammo only like after each 3rd and 7th shot - probably at 11 shot too if you'd keep firing it even longer, but does this mean that it is fully possible to create weapons for Q1 that consume their ammo pool in decimal values?

>>11806965 (OP)
>>11806970
Brehs of /vr/, and those who have nothing else to do til july.
Feel Free to join in.

>Crippled Vaxxtard 11 recentlyy did a video about the re-release of Mars 3D that explains how it's not just an app running in a hacked Doom engine at all, but it's actually just some legitimately insane guesswork recreation of both IdTech1 that also includes some Build jank-magic sprinkled in for a good measure bundled with a shitload of stolen assets from other retail games to boot.
>somebody in the comments section of said vid reminds people that the very first game to ever use the Build engine - Legend of the 7 Paladins isn't actually vaporware that got cancelled, but was in fact released in South Korea as a physical comercial product in the mid-90's.
No idea why I've never checked MobyGames before to notice this fact before, as apparently they already knew about that revelation ages ago...

>>11811558
Can we get a remake of one of the late D64 levels in this? replacing the arachnotrons with the motherfucking asshole aimhack railgun spiders from Q2PSX would be a treat

>>11811558
Can we record and playback demos in Quake 2? Maybe we can do anonymous playtesting, or use the jam levels for thread challenges

>>11810016
The regular Nailgun is actually better at something vs SNG thoughever.
Sometimes when a melee-only monster is NOT right behind you and pushing your shit in from the flank, projectiles fired by the nalgun spawn adequately far apart from the center of player's collision box to hit the foe that's sideways-molesting you before turning around to face them.

>>11811576
You can record demos on Q2R anon

>>11811576
~
startdemo
stopdemo
playdemo (alternatively you can also load a demo via the "map DemoName.dm2" command)

>>11811603
None of these console commands work in Q2R
>>11811585
I succeeded with these console commands
To record:
>record filename
To play:
>map filename.dm2

>>11811472
hey, i came up with a way to make the base game a hell of a lot harder without using any mods after looking at console commands

i_timescale 1.666
turbo 60

now i'm getting seriously fucked up in e1m1. i might turn the autoaim back on because pistoling those fags guarding the green armor is way too hard

i tried to record a clip but it was 300 mb i'll have to turn the recording quality down from 1080p for this chinese cartoon board

figured out why my recording was silly huge, it was 120fps video lmao

https://github.com/JRHard771/Universal-Enhanced-AI/releases

i found a simple AI mod that checks one of the boxes of what i wanted. the monsters tell the other monsters where you are and they chase you down, and if they lose LOS of you, they wander around for a bit before returning back to their start location. there are optional stealth mechanics for if you're in dark rooms but this is doom i shut that shit off.

anyway the new AI is why i died here, first that imp doesn't usually turn the corner, then i got blindsided by the shotgun guy around the corner to the e1m2 soul sphere room for death

after reading up on bable i don't want to use it because it messes with the weapon balance

this i_timescale thing is hilarious btw, if you're looking to get your ass beat i'd give it a go. after toying around with values between 1.25 and 2 on e1m1 i settled on 1.666 hail satan

might have to be a pussy and turn the autoaim back on because the zombies have better flickshots than me :\

melee > gunz

I remember there was some talk about Duke World Tour files neatly packaged into grp that runs and works well in eduke without stopgap. Does anyone have it? I can set it all up by the time I'll probably get a reply to this but I'm so fucking lazy, already got 3 different eduke setups and I don't want to make another one, just want to dump grp if there's one into my main eduke folder and be done with it

>>11811786
what the fuck is this crosshair

>>11811803
it was originally heart shaped

What types of music pair well with which game/setting?

For example, Quake and Blood both go great with dungeon synth https://youtu.be/XZCfKAgmKyo
Black metal can also pair well with these games due to the castle and graveyard settings, as long as the frequencies don't prevent you from hearing game cues
https://youtu.be/TJxBX54tf_A
https://youtu.be/Tz22OwNDfFE

For Quake 2 I've been liking metal, especially 90s metal, not the thrash or black metal stuff, but the more modern mainstream stuff. There is nothing wrong with today's metal but 90s metal feels more appropriate with the game, all things considered. Vocals are generally distracting, though, so I haven't found many albums to listen to, just instrumentals
This instrumental metal playlist goes great with Quake 2 https://youtu.be/uNIpbNgobVE
And here is a good 90s metal album that pairs well with the game, only song I skip is Love Dump https://youtu.be/gSQXWhma2lI

Doom wads always have their own music, whereas Quake1 or 2 levels often reuse the same music, so I usually don't need to change the music for Doom, but if I do, I might use dungeon synth like I mentioned before, or I listen to this music, I have no idea the genre but it's great Dooming music https://youtu.be/H5WShWhQKdE
In my mind, thrash should be good Doom music since that's what the original music is based on, but I find it's too distracting, for example this song is great but would make it hard to hear stuff https://youtu.be/07uNI0DwUWA

I haven't played Duke enough to tire of the original MIDIs. They are still bad ass, especially the SC-55 music packs https://sc55.duke4.net/games.php#duke3d

Punk rock would go well with some sort of Mad Max TC.

>>11811798
I need to start lifting again.

>>11811786
>dynamic lighting
>fov
>looks like texture filtering as well
jesus christ i wanna vomit

>>11811798
>AACK!

>>11811803
it's fucking terrible but the base crosshair was too small. i need to figure out how to make it thinner and waayyyy larger

it's on the todolist of things to find a mod for

i found a mod to make the enemies move silly fast but a lot of the other features in the mod don't seem to work, at least i got one thing down

>>11811830
i normally play with texture filtering off but i felt like changing it up

what's wrong with fov, are you some kind of casual?

>>11811839
Doomworld gender-bender vanilla purist anime avatar skinwalker, most certainly keeps dozens of speedrun records too

>>11811850
When are they going to bite the bullet and just give us a demon side kick?

>>11811834
>>11811786

https://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/addons/x-hairs-pack

The default GZDoom crosshairs suck. This is a good crosshair pack which I can personally recommend, ignore the fact that it is on the Brutal Doom's page, the pack can be used standalone.

>>11811798
now this will stop faggots talking shit about doom 3

>>11811803
now looks better

>>11811907
Looking very modern there.

Clean this up tranny janny, and don't forget you antidepressants

>>11811907
yup, that's what i do

thanks for the crosshair pack

Good boy janny. Woops! Another portion coming.

I got caught in the Halls of the Damned crusher trap. I am upset.

Don't be upset janny. I know you're conditioned to be aroused by it, you filthy butt pirate.

>>11811924
>playing doom

>>11811973
Cheeky fucker

>>11811839
Increased FOV breaks some skies.

>>11812008
this nigga really is playing all of doom in mofokin doom eternal

>>11812056
Just starting Inferno now

>>11808245
>That doesn't mean that awards are corrupted (outside 2020 lol)
There was an unique instance for the past year of some ivy guy being nominated two times by rdwpa (quite subpar single levels imo with typical beginner slips like uniform texturing, overreliance on editor tools, slaughter arenas with every kind of monster), and then no long after both their names appear in this embarrassment of a thread
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/150917-six-girls-yap-about-wads-2024-cycle/
I'm sure there's more to be found if you're willing to peruse through ornamented prose and correlate lists of names. In loose words of some other anon: awards are good for studying friend relations

>>11810273
I'mma bend the rules a little.
Here's all of Maximum Doom but all in one pk3 for your enjoyment and convenience.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/129732-v3-final-maximum-doom-in-one/
The maps showcased within are from 94/95

found a lighting mod on google, the default settings looked like ass but after an hour of tinkering with the settings i think it looks cool

can anyone answer my question from like 100 posts ago about how to calculate my fov. i want the widescreen fov to be 120, not sure how to calculate it (when i used to play quake i found a calculator for 16:9 but i don't know the formula, help?)

>>11812089
You are thinking of ivymagnapinna, quite new, but already is quite known mapper (ivy's maps already gathered buzz before the cacowards). The another "map" you are writing about is Forsaken Compound, it won a runner up, and it's pretty gud. I haven't played that single map that won a cacoward, but it does look nice.

>>11812089
Forgot to write that Forsaken Compound is a full 9 map episode.

>>11811465
>Absolutely does. I updated it a while back, but it's probably outdated again for current PM. I haven't played Doom in a long while.
I think I grabbed that, nice. I haven't checked into PM lately but last I saw it was making some minor updates. I've been sucked into an Unreal binge myself lately.

>>11812008
Friendly reminder that was Sandy's first Doom level

>>11812201
I never knew that
It's a great level, one of my favorites!

>>11812209
Yes. His first Doom level has a fake exit.

>>11812201
>>11812224
Weird you would think that SoD or Mystery would have been his first go at things.

>>11812239
He had a lot of Tom Hall's maps to finish.

>>11804994
have you recorded demos on any of the maps?
can you think of a map you'd like to record a demo for?

Times Ken tried.

>>11812201
It was the map that got him the job. He was put in front of an editor, taught the basics, and early drafts of the map had Romero go "You're hired!"

>>11812056
Pfft, so what, I'm playing Doom in Deltarune.

>>11812089
>one of these users has an avatar of two underage furries kissing
Bruh

just slammed 4 cups of coffee and now i'm gonna doom glhf ggwp

>>11812576
>There are still people who cannot grasp the concept of fictional characters in the year of our lord 2025
Smite me

>>11812618
Laundering a paraphilia through a cartoon clearly didn't prevent anything

>>11811798
i've been dressing in tighter shirts lately too
they're the same shirts, though

>>11812406
good lord lmao

>>11812406
what am i looking at

>>11811975
>playing

>>11812660
I think it's supposed to be... collision code?

>>11811472
You could try ultimate custom doom which lets you change the damage done and received, movements speeds, jump height, monster speed, etc. It's handy for fine-tuning balance to your specific desires. I'd look up some enemy replacer packs. I think brutal doom has a monsters-only pack that is just the vanilla enemies with some new attacks.

>>11811798
>John "the Jacked" Carmack

>>11812628
skill issue on "her" part

>>11812731
Many such cases!

>>11812719
i can hear the midi in my head

>>11812767
No idea what was so problematic with this image for the today's jannoid to delet it.

>>11812576
>he doesn't know that even Naoto Ohshima himself supports shipping Sonic&Tails lately out of sheer desperation for his creations to stay relevant

If that's enough to worry you then please stop using SLADE right now, because one of the contributors to that project is not only a deranged autistic furtranny but also an actual animal rapist

>>11812789
what was the image?

>>11812804
The one in the post
The self immolation of Mr. Modern Arts and Fear Books himself

>>11812814
>TFW Modern Arts & fear books are indeed real

>>11812789
Who are you talking abou -
>This person is the top 3rd contributor

Oh, I see what you mean.
I guess there's always XWE. Haha.

>>11812789
The reason Naoto Ohshima is into Sonic and Tails is because all great artists are sickos. It's just fact. Writer for Sonic Adventure 2 liked a shit ton of art with Shadow and Maria too if I remember correct.

>>11812789
>No idea what was so problematic with this image for the today's jannoid to delet it.
Jannies here delete any mention of M***** t** M*******. They are remarkably sensitive on that matter for some reason.

Aren't you supposed to not use Doom assets if you release your GZDoom game on Steam? There are the Doom techno lamps in ''Supplice'' which is sold commercially on Steam. I guess ID/Bethesda doesn't care

>>11812943
>I guess ID/Bethesda doesn't care
it's only crime if some takes action against you

>>11812943
Does the .wad for Supplice contain the lamp sprites, or is GzDoom just loading them from the Doom 2 iwad?

Wish UN let you replay levels. Ruined my 100% UN run.

>>11812948
They tend to still be pretty chill about asset use, but if someone were to narc on Supplice, I imagine they'd send them a letter telling them "Hey, those are still ours and you can't include those in a commercial product, you gotta remove or replace them."

For comparison, there was some 12 year old Brazilian retard who made his own version of Brutal Doom, where he packaged a bunch of other mods in there, and also a copy of doom2.wad, because he's a fucking idiot.
iD/Bethesda hit him up and told him "Hey, you can't just distribute a copy of doom2.wad with your mod, stop doing that."
Instead of simply fixing this, he stopped distributing the mod entirely, then he went crying and bawling on social media about how his mod was now banned and illegal because of big mean iD/Bethesda.

>>11812951
UN?

>>11812089
>six ""girls""

>>11812943
>There are the Doom techno lamps in ''Supplice'' which is sold commercially on Steam.
Where? Checking the demo since I don't have the game, I'm only seeing this, which is a little similar conceptually but clearly not the same as the Doom one or even edited from it.

>>11812789
>>11812804
The poster himself was probably being a shitter elsewhere and got his posts purged. That happens.

Besides Strange Aeons, what other wads or mapsets have Lovecraft stuff in them?
>>11812943
Don't they use FreeDoom instead?

>>11813012
Rylayeh, off the top of my head.

>>11812618
Ask around your locals, they might just appreciate your comedy sense
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4oQECb6Viw

>>11812704
actually discovered this before you posted it but thanks, i'll look into enemy replacer packs because the 10.5 spawn multiplier mod causes too much infighting so i shut infighting off and came up with a way to severely nerf enemy self monster damage

is 4 hours of doom enough doom for 1 day? i need to take a shower and go to a barbecue today

>>11813108
>is 4 hours of doom enough doom for 1 day?

No.

>>11811465
Red Spiral and PM feel like a match made in... Hell? Yet Spiral's difficulty settings feel polarizing. The first one is too easy while the second one feels borderline before save scumming on mapsets with action bigger than Chainworm Commando.
I played PM on few maps from Curse of Blood with Feet on the Ground. FotG fits PM nicely as well.

>>11813168
>Red Spiral and PM feel like a match made in... Hell?

You were trying not to say it, weren't you?

I like fortress of mystery

>>11813113
oh, ok

>>11813287
Hang on, I just noticed the floors. What mod is that?

>>11813287
That's why you don't rush into rooms of hitscanners

>>11813168
Ahh yeah. I tweaked my difficulties in Red Spiral because I thought the same. MonsterHealth and DamageFactor across all but the first difficulty are .75 and 1.0, respectively. There are also two hidden difficulties with the same settings as the UV spot, but you start with the knife instead of the kendo stick.

My version of Red Spiral also has a lot of neat stuff added and I've been thinking of asking Loss if they mind if I share it.

>>11813168
Ahh yeah. I tweaked my difficulties in Red Spiral because I thought the same. MonsterHealth and DamageFactor across all but the first difficulty are .75 and 1.0, respectively. There are also two hidden difficulties with the same settings as the UV spot, but you start with the knife instead of the kendo stick. The second has 0.80 DamageFactor for BD critters.

My version of Red Spiral also has a lot of neat stuff added and I've been thinking of asking Loss if they mind if I share it.

>>11807542
>>11807609

>>11812660
This meme is an old in-joke in the doom general threads, originating from the word cloud that gets generated for every thread.
"Ken tried" is a screenshot from the word cloud from a long-gone thread.
Ken Silverman is the programmer of the Build engine.
The Build engine code is notoriously difficult to read. Coincidentally, shortly before the generation of "ken tried" by the word cloud, someone posted a link to a blog where someone attempted to read the Build code, and the image of the code is from that blog. The word cloud has also provided us with the name of our megawad, "Hard Fast Faggot Maps."

>>11813352
>Coincidentally
Actually, it's stupid to say that it's a "coincidence" that Ken appears in the word cloud when people were discussing him in the thread

did ken silverman do anything of relevance past the build engine?

>>11813352
ah ok.

>>11813365
He founded Voxon, which makes "3D volumetric display systems," pic related. I guess in layman's terms they are holographic displays.

John Carmack founded Keen Technologies in 2022 and his goal is artificial general intelligence, but IMO that seems beyond the reach of even Carmack since even national militaries/governments like China's are also trying to make the first AGI.

>>11813352
>explaining everything about it EXCEPT why that particular code excerpt is supposed to be funny
thanks chatgpt i guess

>>11813396
>why that particular code excerpt is supposed to be funny
>implying you can read ken's code

>>11813396
I don't get the joke either, is it supposed to be spaghetti code or something?

>>11807869
IT'S THE COST OF PROGRESS

>>11813406
nta but iirc it's overly complicated, illegible code for something fairly mundane

>>11813406
I think it's related to moving the camera or rotating the map around.

>>11813318
relighted, the only lighting mod i could find googling around. it automatically generates lighting based on the sector colors. the default settings look like dogshit but after playing it for a few hours i feel like it looks cool

anyway, i have a barbeque to go to. i've been playing doom, modding doom, or looking for gzdoom mods/console commands for like 6 hours now

i should get a dvd player and rip my quake iso and see if there's an android point of ezquake and go bash heads on aerowalk or something

i had another video but apparently this video compressor wants me to pay for it no thanks, it was showing off how fast the shotgun guys move

>they move like you do

I got a nitpicky question:

I'm playing The Chilling Winds of Dis and it's pretty neat, but I'm spoiled on Beautiful Doom and Smooth Doom and the like. Is there some way I can keep some of the nice weapons of mods like this but leave the custom sprites for the rocket launcher, BFG etc alone?

>>11813474
I remember modifying Smooth Doom way back when I was playing Tangerine Nightmare for the same reason. You could do that.
Also there's a wad called Smooth Weapons which is pretty much just the weapon changes from Smooth Doom without the other bits and bobs that should play nice with these types of wads as long as the wads don't change the weapons. Be careful with balance changes, if the mod changes damage numbers or swap speed or something like that, Smooth Weapons will revert them back to vanilla and make it harder for you.

So, Adi Shankar bought the rights to make a Duke Nukem show.
Dukebros, how over are we?

>>11813506
Irrelevant. Those trash shows should never be brought up here on /vr/

>>11813506
We've been over since Forever.

>>11813474
I might try that! Thanks! Right now I'm just playing with nash gore. Dis is really difficult so far.

>>11813532
I like BD22 and the tactical option for gameplay.

>>11813543
ftfy

>>11813543
>>11813552
>Fuuka
I... really can't tell if that's a great or terrible choice.

>>11813543
>>11813552
Took me a second to realize what's different.

>>11813506
>a middle finger to everybody
At least one of us doesn't remember Duke Nukem very well.

>>11813532
>>11813543

The comic is actually somewhat apt for me as a zoomer (early zoomer) who enjoyed crowding around the PC with friends to gawk at the gory executions and such.

But I remember getting kind of sick of how noisy and mean and constantly *on* it was in comparison to classic Doom pretty quick.

As an adult I like both for different reasons. Classic Doom is more arcadey, I like how rhythmic the game is, and the vibes are just more goofy and fun. Brutal Doom is more angry and good for blowing off steam? I dunno how to put it. It also just reminds me more of FEAR than Doom. That's fine. Not enough games in the world like that.

Classic Doom feels like hard rock and Brutal Doom is black metal. What I wanna play changes based on my mood.

I wish MBF21 supported adjusting height of the LOS origin, than this could look funnier.

>>11813506
If it gets made, I expect it to suck really royally, I have an extremely low opinion of Shankar and the whole "... updated for modern audiences!" cancer.

It's whatever, if you're a Duke Nukem fan, you're already used to being kicked while down. It's not like it'd be worse than Duke Nukem Forever, everyone would already understand from the get-go that this has no chance of not sucking, so there's no hopeful optimism to get trampled upon.

>But anon, what if it's actually not?
With Shankar at the helm and Netflix producing, it will be thoroughly shat on. Go look at that completely retarded adaption of Wheel Of Time, where they went out of their way to completely shit all over the source material as hard as they possibly could, feigning ignorance when it's cancelled for poor ratings.
Wheel Of Time is a really serious literary work which deserves a lot of respect, so what fucking chances would Duke have? At best it'll be some stupid irony poisoned bullshit, because nobody would be willing to interpret Duke or the games past them sometimes having easter eggs or an occasional whacky moment.

>>11813563
>What I wanna play changes based on my mood.

This, really. I like both. Classic Doom is simply sweet, but I can only play it so long until I need something with some prettier effects and gore. Right now I'm playing Into Sandy's Cities with Smooth Doom and it's like a flow state. But when I want something where I can engage the caveman part of my brain and paint the walls, I'll just play BD.

>Duke Nukem movie/series rights sold to the indian faggot who made Castlevania/Devil May Cry
Goddamnit Randy, just let Duke go, why the fuck do you hate it so much?

FACT the version that steam installs by default is perfectly fine and there is nothing wrong with it

>>11813647
it doesn't let me set hud alpha which is standard in source ports

>>11813647
>music doesn't work

>>11813647
I kind of like the old “nightmare” if we’re talking about KexQ1, though I don’t miss “nightmare fast” Shamblers.
I’d like more options for both KexQ1 and 2.

>>11813654
seems to work on my copy

>>11813626
What? What?

you have seen barrels of fuck you sandy now i present pipes of fuck you sandy

>playing Doom with proper Roland SC-55 midi emulation

Holy shit it's like I'm playing it for the first time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_LfE6gV9ok

>>11813682
More like Pipes o' Fun amirite?

>>11813687
>fun
>take damage everytime you go through one

>>11813691
Woah, whooping 5hp or what? Don't shit your pants while flying kiddo.

>>11813693
>makes no damage runs impossible in your path

>>11813682
Wind Tunnels was a Willits* map, not Sandy. That said, I don't know why they swapped it out of the episode's secret slot between Beta3 and release. It makes more sense as a gimmicky secret level.

>>11806984
>dehacked cacodemons
>wanted archviles

>>11813696
>no damage no saves blindfolded speedrun shotgun start keyboard only final destination

>>11813705
While hanging upside down from the ceiling with your head in a bucket of cold custard.

>>11813696
That's how things are sometimes.

SO YOU THINK YOU'RE FUCKING FUNNY HUH

>>11813738
It's good to see you!

>>11813738
Cute.

>>11813754
Iirc you can run mods on the in game Doom Doom...
I think it has limited or no dehacked capabilities unless they changed that.

>>11813762
Oh no im fine with the game warrens was just a fucky level. I had to do it twice too since I got caught by the door bug

>>11813394
I don't think Carmel is expecting to get agi done himself. He's already working with other orgs collaboratively. Probably hoping for some slices of grant money and mergers, should his approach prove fruitful.
He's said his first goal is am ago with the intelligence of a learning impaired toddler. Enough to show it's self learning and move on from there.

>>11811798
>John Carmack as: Duke Nukem

>>11813826
>Hail to the king, baby! Mmm

what are some summerpilled wads for this darn heat? mouldy maps are always a good time

>>11813834
What, hell not hot enough for you?

>>11813826
>John Romero as: The Babe
>Sandy Petersen as: Alien Commander

>>11813506
Well, Duke has been officially dead for over 20 years with Alien World being the only good release after 2002. (Port was shitty but the episode was good.) Anyway I was well aware that we would never get any good official Duke releases again, because copyrights are tangled and those who gave the gaming rights are complete retards. Like with Doom, Quake and Blood, it's the modding community that keeps Duke alive. Sure it's way smaller than Doom's, but there is plenty of cool maps and episodes.