its kinda sad this system is only known for rondo (and maybe ys iv dawn of ys but thats a stretch)

>>11808075 (OP)
Once you get into shmups all these jap consoles that failed in the west get way better

>>11808075 (OP)
It’s kinda sad that you think rondo is the only serviceable title

I know it for its Momotarou Densetsu trilogy

>>11808075 (OP)
I liked Bonk's Adventure

>>11808170
Anon, he said that it was only remembered for Rondo, not that it was the only good game on the system.

>>11808075 (OP)
New Adventure Island
Tatsunoko Fighter
Rondo of Blood
Bonk series
Star Parodier
There's also the NAMCO ports which are pretty good, my fav is pic related.

>>11808075 (OP)
Its fair imo. It was the systems best game. I had a Turbo growing up and I actually did like the games but it lost in the west for good reason. Genesis and SNES were just simiply much better. However Rondo is definitely one of the best games of the 16-bit era so its good that the system is known for having at least one of the best games of the era and it was at the time exclusive to it. A disc based game but still. If shitters didn't care for Splatterhouse, Bonk or the shmups that is their problem. The console was decent overall.

>>11808075 (OP)
The worst thing is that Rondo isn't even on this console. It is exclusive to the CD extension.

>>11808075 (OP)
It just proves that consoles can fail for the stupidest reasons even if they are really good. In this case the nes looking controller probably made it look like too 8 bit, they probably got out early enough to not lose too much money in America. Makes you think why not just try in Europe, they already made the machines are were ready to go but 64k of vram was pretty expensive in 87 and 89.
Technically I think it has the highest potential of the 3 in some areas if you just judge the whole image instead of counting pixels and layers.
I still think Saturn is the worst blunder of a system that could have done better.

>>11808610
Europe wasn't "a" market back then, it was a lot of small markets. Even Nintendo did not implement itself in Europe at that time, instead several distributors made deals to release the NES to this or that country. I think only Sega had to guts to implement itself in Europe early on but someone correct me if I'm wrong.

>>11808075 (OP)
Only known to you. The place where the console actually did well know it differently.

Yeah, it’s not my fault that nobody wants to talk about the various strip mahjong games it had.

>>11808075 (OP)
Not as sad as this piece of shit, which is only remembered for coming out the same time as the Saturn and PlayStation but costing 10,000 yen more with no 3D capability.

>>11808075 (OP)
If you count the CD add-on and all the expansion ram chips, the library is insane, as long as you get past the language barrier. Lots of good RPGs, shooters, visual novels and adventure games. The platformer selection was weak compared to Genesis, NES and SNES.

Sapphire is a technical marvel.

>>11808650
The PC-FX was also based on hardware from 1992. NEC sat on it for nearly 2 years before releasing it to market.

>>11808650
>Sold 400.000
How NEC messed up?

>>11808075 (OP)
Shantae for PCE!

>>11808191
The fuck is the difference, faggot?

>>11808716
youre psychotic and retarded

>>11808716
Anon, surely you aren’t telling me you can’t comprehend the difference between believing a game is good and understanding its cultural relevance. I really like a bunch of x68k games, but I understand that most of them aren’t remembered or known at all outside of Japan.

How much commercial porn games does this console have compared to shit like the MSX?

>>11808075 (OP)
Kinda sad people care about what Americans think or say
>PCE is a rondo machine!
>Genesis sucks! SNES SNES SNES!
>N64 > PS1!
>I AM THE BIGGEST NORMALFAGGOT ON EARTH!

>>11808345
I also had turbo and to be honest, I didn't like quite a large number of the games I had and I had over thirty of them. I always went back to the same dozen or so. Darkwing Duck, for example, was just fucking awful. Still, better than my Lynx. I only had one game for that I liked, Chip's Challenge. Viking Child? Awful. Blue Thunder/Lightning/Whatever? Terribad. California Games? Poopshits. Toki? Amiga-tier garbage. Klax? Not really any different than any other release of it so why play that one? Ninja Gaiden? The absolute worst version of the game ever. It wasn't even actually NG. It played more like the OG arcade Shinobi meets Streets of Rage, which sounds good but it just wasn't.

Got one of these and a flashcart without knowing anything about it and have really enjoyed it. If you get one, you're pretty much guaranteed to figure out shmups and enjoy them, but that's not all it has. The duo model is a fun fixer upper project too with some neat mods. The bass is filtered out of the music on the duo so you gotta replace a couple of ceramic caps to fix that. Next time I get it out I'll have to get started on neutopia 2

>>11808770
>”Normalfag”
>says N64 > PSX even though PSX sold thrice as much

Interesting

>>11808075 (OP)
PC engine? I already have a PC.

>>11808794
Not in America

>>11808770
>Genesis sucks!

genesis "was" the preferred american system, retard

>>11808807
it doesn't matter what reality was back then, it's about revisionist americans. the same kind who are now spamming on /v/ about the cube being the better and most popular system of the 6th gen

>>11808673
>The platformer selection was weak

it had plenty of good ones. new adventure island, dragon trap, the legendary axe games, bonk 2, sonson ii, parasol stars and liquid kids hold up with the best of the best
but when the pce library is less than 700 games, youll just not going to have the same quantity

>>11808761
the only true adult games on the system are unlicensed titles. even games like steam hearts just show tits
most of the nudity games weren't really a thing till the system was well on the decline

>>11808812
>the cube being the better [...] system
I can agree to that, but I still know the truth that Xbox was always better.

>>11808805
Sorry, it only sold twice as much there. The point still stands

>>11808782
I was actually fairly spoiled with games and consoles in hindsight. Which wasn't really the smartest thing for my mother to do since we weren't rich either. But I also had a large amount of games for it. Don't know if it was as much as you but I know for a face I definitely had at least 20 games for it.

I do get what you mean. The console overall did feel inferior to Genesis and SNES I won't deny that. However it was also meant to be a competitor to the NES not the other two necessarily even though it ended up being exactly that. If we look at it as a competitor to the NES I think it definitely stacks up fairly well. It just ultimately still loses even to the NES due to not getting enough good games shipped over nor support. I honestly liked the console and have a very fond nostalgia for it and I do miss it. Its one console I wish my mother never convinced me to get rid of. I miss it even more than the Saturn which I actually do not regret handing down to a friend at all. If only parents knew how valuable all this shit would end up being years later when you have people willing to spend hundreds and even thousands of dollars for certain retro games.

Are there any games you did like for it? It may sound like bait but I actually even enjoyed games like China Warrior as a child. I always liked the big sprites and general weirdness of the game. A lot of people who didn't grow up with these earlier consoles don't really understand that back then this stuff was all brand new to us and there wasn't too much else to look back on if anything at all. So something like China Warrior was very novel and unique to me. Don't think I ever beat that game. But the system definitely had its fair share of decent to good games. The Legendary Axe is definitely a great game for it as well imo.

I got a chance to play a real turbografx a few months ago. The turbo actually looks really cool in person. It is much smaller than pictures imply. The games look great on a crt, too.

for me, it's magical chase.

I liked Cadash. Also Gekibo

>>11809112
This

>>11808348
To be honest a lot of good PC Engine games are exclusive to CD extension, without CD PC Engine is just a beefed up NES.

>>11808075 (OP)
It's actually only known for Bonk's adventure.

>>11809023
>Are there any games you did like for it?
Absolutely. Where would you get the idea I didn't? I loved Jackie Chan, New Adventure Island, Soldier Blade, Shockman, Order of the Griffin (which I discovered a useful glitch for that seems to not be listed anywhere, likely because literally no one cares about D&D games), Parasol Stars, Pacland (I even not only beat the game from start to end, but got the alternate coloured, weird world in it, which was similar to the SMW things after Star Road), Final Lap Twin, that tennis game that's like Final Lap Twin, Neutopia 2 (I never actually owned the first lmao), Cadash (best home version), Zonk, Buster Bros, Boxyboy, Somer Assault, Magical Chase (lucky me!) and I think that's it for the ones I liked. How many is that? 16?
I had several others that just weren't good or were style over substance. I really really really didn't like Samurai Ghost, for example. Slow moving and boring.
My brother also had an import PC-Engine with CD. I'm the guy who sneaked neighbourhood kids into my brother's room to show them Rondo after Symphony came out cuz they didn't believe me that Richter was not only from his own game but that it was a Japanese exclusive and that there was a copy of it at my house. I used to break into his room all the time to play vidya so besides my Turbo games, I had access to PX-Engine games back then, too.

>>11808075 (OP)
I don't know what that is and I was born in the 80s

>>11809649
>. How many is that? 16?
AI Overview says 138 games were officially released in North America. So as said earlier the console simply didn't get enough support in the US. It did fairly well in Japan for its time though from what I read. Had a whole lot more games released as well obviously.

>Absolutely. Where would you get the idea I didn't?
I didn't assume anything. I figured there were some things you liked and I just was curious to know since this is a thread about the TurboGrafx-16 aka PC Engine. By the way according to wikipedia the console had 678 commercial releases. So NA really got shafted as far as games. We just didn't get enough of Turbo here unfortunately.

>>11808075 (OP)
NES, SNES, PS1 and PS2 are the only real systems, all others can be described as "the one that plays x"

Sega CD?
>Plays Sonic CD

Atari Jaguar?
>Plays Jaguar Doom

Saturn?
>Plays panzer dragoon

Gamecube?
>plays meelee

Even computers

MSX?
>plays Metal Gear

Sharp X68k?
>Plays Castlevania x68

PC98?
>Plays 2hu

>>11810020
Geez, Castlevania was the one you chose for 68k?? You don’t know shit about that beautiful machine.

>>11808716
How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?

>>11808079
this
if you start playing and appreciating shmups, opens the world to interesting games
but i also like hudsonsoft in general

>>11810020
>Atari Jaguar?
>Plays Jaguar Doom

It's Alien versus Predator. Doom is probably the most ported game ever made after Tetris, nobody's going to go out of their way to play it on Jaguar when you can play it on everything from a toaster to a printer

>>11810020
>Jaguar Doom
You mean Tempest 2000, what lunatic gets a Jaguar for Doom?

>32X plays Chaotix
>Master System plays shittier Sonic
>SuperGrafx plays Ghouls n Ghosts
>7800 plays Ballblazer
>Dreamcast plays Sonic Adventure

>J-RPGs
>adventure games
>digital comics
>dungeon crawlers
>quiz games
>romance sims
>shooters
>platformers

It had a lot of games, but the biggest ones that appealed to Japan are Japan only. It also had a lot of PC-98 ports, so you can experience those games with CD audio on a home console.

Due to language barrier, 85% of the PCE's best games can't be experienced by outsiders, since they're so text heavy.

Whether these are GOOD games or not is up to you. You more or less have to like the genre. Very few of the games are true classics like Rondo, more like niche titles and niche genres.

Lapace no Ma PCE-CD is much closer to the PC-98 original and includes first person exploration. the Super Fami version is top down like final fantasy or Dragon Quest. No clue why they're so different, but first person dungeon crawlers seem more visually appealing to me.

For me it's

>Game Gear
Plays Shining Force Gaiden Final Conflict

>>11810309
Play!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGPlsr_XRVE

>>11809112
>>11809128
It have spiritual sequel called dottie dreads nought (snes)

>>11808075 (OP)
does that thing not have a 2nd controller port?

>>11810776
Nobody who owned one had any friends.

>>11810309
>SuperGrafx plays Ghouls n Ghosts

you're correct but i find this one funny because its not drastically better than the genesis version, when the colors are washed out, the sound is worse, the controls don't have diagnonal inputs and the difficulty is much harsher (9 credits max, lacking checkpoints). you would think 1941 or aldynes would be the "X game" of the supergrafx

the best capcom pce vs md game is still forgotten worlds, that pce port is a tour de force

>>11808075 (OP)
It's a great system but anyone who acts like it has as many good games as Megadrive and SNES is insane

>>11810759
That game is a spiritual successor to Turrican, it has nothing to do with Magical Chase

>>11808075 (OP)
Shmups nigga.

Was Rondo even a best seller in Japan?
I imagine the actual system sellers of PC Engine were the Tengai Makyou games and Puyo Puyo, probably also SF II Turbo and Fatal Fury Special

>>11808812
Bro, we must erase Nintendo from the public awareness. I will help you.

I don't even like Castlevania. Played it on nes and the gameplay is fair but doesn't feel good. Feels clunky. Just don't get it

>>11811245
There's a big difference between Castlevania 1 and Rondo of Blood

>>11811245
>>11811302
legendary axe is basically the hucard equivalent of castlevania and its far more fun than nes castlevania
>>11811053
it wasn't, but we don't have reliable pc engine sales figures. the famitsu sales figures make zero sense (like why is super darius the best selling pce shooter? the star games were far more successful. and tengai makyou 2 which is stated to be at the top, isn't really on the list)

>>11810309
32x is blackthorne or tempo, chaotix is dogshit

>>11811421
32x has to be the blackthorne, it's sadly the best port.
>>11810309
Master system is Alex Kidd

>>11811053
>probably also SF II Turbo and Fatal Fury Special
Sold much better on SNES