This just came out on PSN. Is it worth it for someone who's never played Deus Ex before? Also, how's the PS2 port of Max Payne?

Please feel free to use this thread to discuss any PC games that were ported to the PS2.

>>11811170 (OP)
Good because of the better character models, cinematics and controller comfiness.
If you don't care about these factors, just play on PC using the GMDX mod.

>>11811170 (OP)
No, they're both shit. Play the PC versions.

>other PC games ported to PS2
I can't think of any that are better on PS2. But some are not distributed anymore and were made for old Windows, so then, the PS2 version might be better in those cases even if it's slightly worse because of ease of use and not having to deal with Windows issues

>>11811181
>No, they're both shit.
Why?

>>11811184
Because the game is legendary and it doesn't need """better""" character models (read:worse)
Meanwhile, Max Payne is not a controller game. It asks you to do some serious gunkata that feels way better on M&K. It's also a hard game

>>11811170 (OP)
The PS2 port of Max Payne is missing rooms and other small areas present in the PC version.

>>11811196
>M&K
Mortal & Kombat?

>>11811196
Max Payne is easy as fuck and if you have the slightest modicum of skill aiming with thumbsticks it translates just fine to controller.
Sounds like you're just ass at video games quite frankly

>>11811170 (OP)
Why would you wanna play the inferior version anyway besides comparing the original?

>>11811891
Motion and knob. Using motion controls and a knob joystick instead of using a regular game controller.

>>11811940
you can motion MY knob, howbow dat

>>11811170 (OP)
No. Due to console limitations areas are smaller and filled with walls in Deus Ex. Trying to walk in a straight line during the dream sequences in Max Payne 2 with a controller is a nightmarish experience. Just play the PC versions; they are easy enough to get for cheap or free and will run on a toaster.

Somehow the PS2 version of max payne is worse to play than the android port

>>11811170 (OP)
>how's the PS2 port of Max Payne
Max Payne 1 isn't a particularly good port.
Max Payne 2 is essentially a demake of the PC version in a much much worse engine
Like it's not actually a port at all. Instead they re-created the entire game using tech from the first game, and this being the early 2000's the difference in tech between the PC versions of MP1 and MP2 is huge.

>>11811170 (OP)
Is it serious that the console version of max payne is that bad? I know that the console aim is clearly not console based. Since it doesn't adjust and the camera is too far away, the mouse aim is superior. Something they “fixed” in their non-retro games where the camera is close, control is tanky. magnetic aiming, precise aiming is bad and cqc is encouraged.

>>11812543
>I know that the console aim is clearly not console based.
peak zoomer phrase

>>11811902
not OP but i like it just for the fact that playing with a controller is way more enjoyable than mouse and keyboard

>>11811196
The game has better level design that the PC version. But seeing how you jump straight to the graphics I won't even waste time to discuss it with a retard.

>>11812648
>fps on controller

yikes

>>11812726
It's actually better because the game ACTUALLY uses your weapon skill stats for auto-aim while on PC you can just put a laser and your pistol becomes a sniper rifle with zero training.

>>11812726
This is why retards like (You) shouldn't even allowed near a discussion with humans. No one gives a shit about your handicapablities with a controller and reliance on a damn mouse for literally everything.

>>11812723
>>11812732
>>11812819
>autoaim
lol nice game retard

Deus Ex & Max Payne 1-2 work on pretty much any functioning pc you can find (yes you need fixes but in terms of pc specs) + you get to play different mods. Haven't played DE ps2 port but MP1-2 are seriously inferior even at the time they were released. They had to remake the games with ultra low graphics and still split some levels in half etc.

>>11811181
I think gta sa is one of the games that doesn't really suffer if you play it on ps2 and 3 and vc probably too, except the very few parts where you have do pinpoint sniping and have to somehow twiggle the analog sticks lol.

>>11812135
I recall reading that MP2 (not sure about MP1) on ps2 were made using the vice city / manhunt engine and it just didn't end up impressive.. I have to check what they used to port MP1 but possibly the same engine too because the ps2 port came a little bit later and they had the vice city engine at hand. It's kind of interesting to think that back in those days there was very little crossplatform development so every game basically had to be made from a scratch on every platform and it just imitates the original.

I had Deus Ex on ps2 at the time and it's fun. Good PS2 game.

>>11812840
3d era gta is one of the only series that is objectively worse on pc without mods

>>11811170 (OP)
The console Max Payne ports have like zero aim assist or ADS/zoom slow so they play pretty terribly.

I plan on playing PS2 Deus Ex this year, never played the PC version. Apparently it's dumbed down in a couple areas, but improved in others, and still has all the bones that made the game good

>>11811170 (OP)
I played this one a bit on an emulator but as soon as I hit the stupidly huge wall they added on Liberty island I quit. It just felt retarded

>>11812850
>It's kind of interesting to think that back in those days there was very little crossplatform development so every game basically had to be made from a scratch on every platform and it just imitates the original.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:RenderWare_games

>>11813220
>The console Max Payne ports have like zero aim assist or ADS/zoom slow so they play pretty terribly.
Played fine for me on Xbox. As someone who used a controller for 28 years, it's not a herculean feat to aim at people. Especially in slow motion with super powers.

>>11813220
>never played the PC version
Deus Ex is a so fantastic game that I'm begging you: Don't waste your first experience playing the ps port.

Buy at steam or gog for 5 bucks or just pirate. Also, remember to mod with gmdx for better graphics and to avoid crashes.

>>11812850
You're even more retarded than whoever told you that.

>>11811170 (OP)
just play the pc version. it's not even that expensive anyway

>>11813381
>>11813798
Must have been thinking pre-ps2 era. Even still MP1-2 was custom engine on pc first, it had to be ported after to consoles because it wasn't developed originally on renderware.

>>11811170 (OP)
I like the PS2 version. It retains the heart and soul of Deus Ex while offering something different. A little more streamlined in some ways, but flat out improved in others. I enjoyed my time with it.

I'm curious if the PSN versions still support usb kb/m.

Just bought the PS5 port (60fps, way faster loading)

I bought it on my PS5 Pro

>>11811179
>play on PC using the GMDX mod.

Definitely don't need that mod
Some people even hate it

>>11811895
>Max Payne is easy as fuck

The PS2 version must be seriously easier then!

>>11811184
Due to memory limitations of the PS2 level design had to get truncated which fucks with the pacing.

>>11814995
>he boughted
Kek, just emulate it bro

>>11815604
Calm down Miguel

I really wouldn't recommend it. PC to PS2 ports have atrocious loading times.

>anime picture
just go back

>>11815664
A knockoff of a Japanese image board that was founded to discuss anime and manga and is owned by a Japanese man is the perfect spot to post anime pictures actually

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>>11813795
DO NOT use the GMDX mod, it has extensive and sometimes questionable gameplay changes, it's an overhaul best reserved for a second playthrough.
Instead just install Kentie's Launcher and then pick one from Chris Dohnal's OpenGL or d3d9 renderers. Note that if you are using the GOTY version you should also install the Deus Ex Maps Patch since for some reason the GOTY release shipped with an older version of some maps.

>>11811170 (OP)
I played the entire ps2 port of Max Payne on the ps4 5 years ago its good give it a try

>>11815768
What are the questionable things about gmdx in short and I'm not looking to fight, just curious.

>>11815678
>that was founded to discuss anime and manga
Was founded to post porn actually.
Not even anime porn. Just regular porn.

>>11816215
nope
https://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv57271090

>>11816218
Yes. It was.
We literally still have all the posts and chatrooms that led to 4chan's creation. Even ignoring that, you could just look at the initial board list following /b/ and see the intent of its creation fairly quickly.
These were the first boards:
>/b/ - Random
>/h/ - Hentai
>/d/ - Hentai/Alternative
>/g/ - Guro
>/y/ -Yaoi
>/s/ - Sexy Beautiful Women

>>11816219
>These were the first boards:
>>/b/ - Random
Based retarded newfag. /b/ began as Anime/Random, it was the first and only board, then an anime-specific board was later spun off as the site expanded. You've got the interview with mootles explaining the beginnings of 4chan right there, just stop.

>>11816219
Always found it funny that yaoi came before yuri

>>11816215
When moot says in multiple sources that he founded it to discuss anime/manga as a spinoff of a Something Awful board, who are you to dispute it?

>>11816224
>b-b-but
Yeah I don't give a shit. I forgot it was called Anime/Random, boo fucking hoo, it still existed primarily for PORN. The first dispute, within the week of the site going up, was over 4chan almost getting dropped from its provider for guro and lolikon.
The only actual stated intention in making it by moot at the time was to have @4chan.net as his email address.
>>11816241
>"m-moot said"
>posts wikipedia
The wikipedia page is one that has since been severely edited to include a lot that wasn't there 20 years ago and that line about how it exists to "discuss anime and manga" is just made up by the wikipedia editor.
The only citation that should be relevant is the one to the 4chan FAQ which does not say that. At all.
The second citation, a fucking Irish Times article of all things, also doesn't say that.
The final article is a Forbes one NOT written by their usual writer for Japanese media, which erroneously claims 2ch as an "anime forum" (it's not) and then claims with zero citation, that "Poole originally founded 4chan as a place to chat about anime and Japanese culture".
Here's what moot said in his 2005 update to the SA 4chan thread.
>I started 4chan when I was very bored, in need of porno, and wanted a cool email address (especially because I couldn't register pant.su ). The immediate result was a cool 2chan clone that provided me with all such things, but a few unwanted side effects, the predominant one being ANIMU OTAKU KAWAII BAKA NEKOS-TAN-^______^-PYO-NYOs. Said people are complete wastes of human life and made running the site hell not only for me, but the original users (RH), and people like C_V and shut who tried to help with the burden. The end result was the site dying multiple times, with its final (READ: IT NEVER DIES) death on June 20th, 2004.
Moot stated it for everyone to see. He made it for porn and an email address, and anime fans congregating there was an unintended and unwanted side effect.

>>11816254
The first board ever was Anime/Random you retard. He reaffirms the intent to discuss Japanese entertainment in the nicovideo interview. You were wrong about it having nothing to with anime, and are a faggot. End of discussion.

>>11816274
>Yeah but
I posted a primary source, moot himself stating in no uncertain terms on SA what the site was made for.

>>11816275
Here's your primary source, faggot.

>>11816286
>moot shitposting in his late era where the vast majority of his posts were shitposts
Woah anon.

>>11811170 (OP)
>Is it worth it for someone who's never played Deus Ex before?
Fuck no, get deus exe and an updated renderer (GL or DX9), dump everything on the system folder and that's it
https://kentie.net/article/dxguide/
https://www.cwdohnal.com/utglr/
>how's the PS2 port of Max Payne
Like the Deus Ex port they were great if you didn't have a PC at the time but IMO leave them for another playthrough, stick with the originals